‘Everything you do is about the big moments; it’s about being able to come out and get on with it’
In this fascinating episode, Rob is in conversation with Sam Warburton OBE and Welsh rugby legend.
He has 74 caps for Wales and has captained both Wales and the British and Irish Lions.
They discuss ambition, life, and careers providing a fascinating insight into what it takes to reach the pinnacle as a professional in the sport of rugby.
Listen in to hear about how being the ‘nice guy’ in a competitive environment is valuable to everyone.
I am very competitive, whatever sport I was good at; I would have done, rugby was something I was good at and as a young competitor, I was able to see that I was good compared to others.
My ambition as a teenager was to be the Captain of Wales to play for the Lions from then on everything focused on getting to that point.
Believing in yourself is very intrinsic and vital to any journey and achievement.
Sacrifice, determination and mindset brought me the No7 jersey, representing that I was the best flanker in the country.
Throughout my professional career, I laid the foundations for possibilities I could pursue when I retired and focused on building a sustainable life.
If you are defined by your work then when you retire, especially for sportsmen who are usually still young the loss can be enormous, It is about ‘who are you?’
If you develop other interests and possibilities whilst playing professionally then you are not defined by rugby and you are able to achieve fulfilment through those alternative opportunities.
As a leader I have learnt that you can’t be a leader on your own, you need other leaders around you. Looking for help when you are a leader is a sign of maturity.
You need people around you who can make decisions for you, it is vital to be able to delegate.
There are 4 ‘P’s’ that I adhere to in leadership
Being positive and believing that you can be anyone and do anything, even if you don’t feel like it internally it’s vital this is the attitude you demonstrate outwardly.
Being Professional and ensuring you are punctual and a positive role model.
People- developing personal relationships within the group and communication with different groups who are part of the large team is vital as a leader.
Performance –it’s vital to achieve credibility and respect from others in the team. You have to be selfish and make sure that you are performing at your best to be able to support others.
The pressure is a part of being a professional athlete but behind the pressure is the opportunity to do something great and you will be able to make the difference.
I put a lot of time into everything I do if I'm doing something I want to be really good at it.
As a TV pundit communication is vital and it's about being able to deliver to the casual fan to break it down so they can understand and enjoy it.
If someone watching realises they do that in that way, as a result of my commentary then I will have done my job.
I will have played a part in educating people in understanding the game of rugby.
You need to work out of your comfort zone and if you have an aptitude there is the possibility of making it your career.
It’s finding the thing that you want to do and having a goal that you are working towards.
Rugby was very tough as a career and so I wanted to pursue things that I enjoyed when I retired.
I achieved what I set out to achieve and it’s nice to be nice and just a good guy.
‘Be true to yourself’
‘You don’t have to prove to anyone else what you do for others’
‘Once you go out of your comfort zone and you achieve, that’s when you grow as a person’
‘I'm not the most skilfully blessed person but I am one of the hardest working people’
‘You don’t want to be told how good you are you want to be told how you can get better’
‘I get nervous because I care about what I do’
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Rob Moore is the host of the UK’s no. 1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur,” as well as an entrepreneur, property investor, property educator, and holder of 3 world records for public speaking. He is also the author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, and the global bestseller, Life Leverage.
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