Steve Magness is a performance coach, writer, and co-author of the book "The Passion Paradox."
Brad Stulberg researches, writes, speaks, and coaches on health and human performance. His coaching practice includes working with athletes, entrepreneurs, and executives on their mental skills and overall wellbeing.Steve Magness writes, speaks, and coaches on health and human performance. He is a coach to some of the top distance runners in the world. He consults with executives and athletes on performance, culture, and mental skills development.In addition to Peak Performance and The Passion Paradox, their writing and opinions have been featured in national outlets including The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, New York Magazine, Wired, CNN, NPR, The BBC, Forbes, ESPN, Outside Magazine, and The Huffington Post.Their newest book, The Passion Paradox: A Guide to Going All In, Finding Success, and Discovering the Benefits of an Unbalanced Life is out now!Learn more about the Brad, Steve, and the book at discuss:How did you decide to write a book about passion?How do we differentiate passions that are going to bring us "success"?How do we separate our value from our passion?Become a Patron!Help us grow and become a Patron today: - Get 10% off your first month - - Thanks to Skillshare for sponsoring this episode. Listeners get 2 months of Skillshare for FREE by signing up here: Chef - For a total of $75 off, that’s $25 off each of your first 3 boxes, go to here to support the show!
If you’ve ever wanted greater success in your life, then do we have the Passion Paradox show for you! Today I’ll be speaking with Brad Stulberg and Steve Magness, coa-authors of the bestseller Peak Performance and authors of a brilliant book on finding success, The Passion Paradox. And that’s just what I want to talk with them about today, about going all in, finding success, and discovering the benefits of an UNBALANCED life.  The Passion Paradox Self-Improvement & Self-Help Topics Include: What really is passion? What’s the dark side of passion? What’s the biology of passion? What’s the danger on relying upon your success for happiness? What’s the danger of our obsessions? What’s a “fit mind-set of passion” What’s the importance of lowering the bar to perfection when it comes to finding your passion? What’s the danger of “go big or go home”? What is harmonious passion? What’s the mastery mindset? What’s it mean to “drive from within”? What’s the importance of focusing on the process? Why don’t we want to worry about being the best? What does it mean to embrace acute failure for chronic gains? What’s the importance of patience when it comes to your passion? What in the world does watching paint dry have to do with anything? Why are passion and balance antithetical? Why might unbalanced be the way to go? How do we cultivate self-awareness, particularly when “lost” in our passion? What’s the importance of having a close reationship with ourselves? What can we learn from the Buddhist practice of five rememberances? To find out more visit: and
Welcome to Episode 18 of the Final Surge Podcast. Our guest today is Steve Magness. Steve is a former high school prodigy, the author of the well respected book Science of Running and a coach at the University of Houston and to several professional runners. We talk about everything from training the extremes, race strategy, breaking through plateaus, tapering and psychology or racing. Most of our listeners probably know who you are, but let’s give any who may not know your background. Can you tell us about how you got started running? You made that huge jump your senior year can you tell us about that and what changes you made to have that breakthrough? What was your training like your first three years of high school? Your book the Science of Running is one of those books that I think every coach, no matter how experienced should have on their books shelf. But I understand you are working on a new book, what can we expect from that one. You took over coaching at your alma mater University of Houston a few years ago. As a college coach, who is getting in high school runners, what are you noticing about the high school athletes you get as far as their training and what they may be lacking? You have a kid who has plateaued, say a 4:30 miler. When he hits a level where he is not improving any longer, this is when you need to change a stress? When you have a group of 30-50 kids sometimes that balance is hard. What advice would you have for coaches with larger programs on what they should be looking for in each runner to see if they training needs to be changed up for some kids. There is a debate among some in the high school distance ranks. The old volume vs intensity. One argument is they are young so work on their speed development and the other camp is they should be working on their aerobic capacity and leave the speed for the next level. Of course, the truth as always is probably somewhere in the middle. But I think both camps work on both, the intensity camp may be more of a 35 mile a week program with 2-3 days of really intense work while the volume camp may be more 50-55 miles a week with a lot more tempo work, but what advice would you have for high school runners and coaches? Let’s look at a week for a high school kid, how would you structure a week of workouts? This is another question from a high school coach. Actually, the same question came in from two coaches. He is getting ready to start prepping for his qualifying and state meet. They would like to know what percentage of volume do  you cut back. When do you start that? When does you have your last, hardest workout of the season? You have a podcast Magness and Marcus, which as a coach is my favorite podcast because there is some talk about training, but a lot of talk about actually coaching. I'm curious, how much time do you guys spend talking coaching outside that podcast? When you are working with your mid pack cross country runners, you are not talking to them about strategies to win a race, so what coaching advice are you giving them on a race plan, what does that conversation look like? You have been coaching for a few years now at a very high level. If you could go back and give advice to yourself when you started coaching high school, what advice would you give a younger Steve? Recommended Reads from Steve  One of your athletes, and one of our favorite Final Surge runners Neely Spence Gracey is going to be running the NYC marathon here shortly, how is her training looking? Episode 9 LINK A question from twitter, we have a listener who has been putting in great training over the last year with great training runs. But on race day they are having sub-par performances in the 10k-Marathon races. Occasionally will have a good race so their fitness level is there, they are just not racing well. I know it could be a lot of things, but can you give this runner some general areas to look into to racing better? Another question from twitter, when you are looking at recruits, what are you looking for in an athlete? Favorite running book? - Once a runner Current trainers you are wearing? - Asics Favorite race? - 1/2 Marathon Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Chocolate Milk Your favorite piece of running equipment that is not your shoes? - Timex non-GPS watch Steve's website Steve on Twitter
Ben talks with one of the country's top young coaches, Steve Magness. Coach Magness is the head cross country and assistant track coach at the University of Houston. He also coaches pros Sara Hall, Tommy Schmitz and others. His recently released book, The Science of Running, has been a huge hit with runners looking to be the very best they can be.
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