Ty Seidule is Professor Emeritus of History at West Point where he taught for two decades. He served in the U.S. Army for thirty-six years, retiring as a brigadier general in 2020. He is the Chamberlain Fellow at Hamilton College as well as a New America Fellow. Ty graduated from Washington and Lee University and holds a PhD from the Ohio State University. He is the author of Robert E. Lee and Me.
James and Al host Ret. Brigadier General Ty Seidule for a deep dive into the residual myths surrounding Robert E. Lee and the confederacy, as well as the implications they have for the region and our politics.  Former NOLA Mayor Mitch Landrieu then calls in to join the conversation, discussing the changes happening in the modern South and how we can reclaim patriotism from those who would divide us. Get More From This Week’s Guests:Ret. Brigadier General Ty Seidule Twitter |Website | Hamilton College | Author of: Robert E. Lee & Me | And Many Other Books Former New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu Twitter |Website | Unum Fund | Author of: In The Shadows Of Statues EMAIL YOUR QUESTIONS TO JAMES AND AL AT  POLITICSWARROOM@GMAIL.COM OR TWEET THEM TO @POLITICON.  MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR CITY, WE LOVE TO HEAR WHERE YOU’RE FROM!THIS WEEK’S SPONSOR:MAGIC SPOON GET YOUR NEXT DELICIOUS BOWL OF GUILT-FREE CEREAL AT WWW.MAGICSPOON.COM/WARROOM AND USE THE CODE WARROOM TO SAVE FIVE DOLLARS OFF.  LISTEN TO OTHER PODCASTS FROM POLITICON: #SistersInLaw- Featuring Jill Wine-Banks, Joyce Vance, Kimberly Atkins & Barb McQuadeHow The Heck Are We Gonna Get Along!- Featuring Clay Aiken
West Point Professor Emeritus of History Ty Seidule talks about is recently released book Robert E. Lee and Me.  He discusses growing up in the American South and how he was indoctrinated into the myth of the Lost Cause.  He explains the difference of living in Alexandria, Virginia and living in rural Georgia.  He talks about the deification of Robert E. Lee and the groups that perpetuated the myth.  Seidule explains the history of the flags of the Confederacy including the Confederate Batte Flag.  The discussion includes why several Army posts were named for Confederate officers and how and why that should change in the future.  He explains the importance of Lincoln and Grant's leadership and why that is downplayed by the Lost Cause philosophy.  He discusses the history of Arlington National Cemetery and when Confederate graves and statues were allowed on the grounds.  He finished with how racism has infected the American bloodstream and the steps that can be taken to tell the full nature of our shared history.HOST:  Rob MellonFEATURED BREW:  Ground Pounder Pale Ale, Service Brewing Company, Savannah, GeorgiaBOOK:  Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Lee-Me-Southerners-Reckoning/dp/1250239265MUSIC:  Bones Forkhttps://bonesfork.com/CLIPS:  From an interview with Shelby Foote, the U.S. Army oath, quote from Andrew Young the former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., and a speech given by Harry Truman to the NAACP
The Confederate States seceded from the United States over slavery. But the “lost cause” myth—the idea that the Civil War was not about slavery but about northern aggression—still has a hold on countless Americans. The historian Ty Seidule doesn’t believe that anymore, though he only came to the realization well into his career as an Army officer and a history professor. His book Robert E. Lee and Me deconstructs the legacy of the top Confederate general and unpacks the enduring “lost cause” ideology.  On this week’s episode of The Experiment, the correspondent Tracie Hunte talked with Seidule about why unlearning the mythology surrounding Lee took him so long, and the host, Julia Longoria, considers what it might take for other white Americans to do the same. Be part of The Experiment. Use the hashtag #TheExperimentPodcast, or write to us at theexperiment@theatlantic.com.  This episode was produced by Tracie Hunte and Matt Collette, with editing by Katherine Wells, Julia Longoria, and Alvin Melathe. Fact-check by William Brennan. Sound design by David Herman. Special thanks to Adam Serwer, Vann R. Newkirk II, Veralyn Williams, and Jenisha Watts. Music by Keyboard (“Shingles,” “Contractions”), Parish Council (“St. Peter Port/Wiltshire/Cooking Leeks,” “Socks Before Trousers,” “Leaving the TV on at Night”), Ob (“Waif”), and infinite bisous (“Brain”); provided by Tasty Morsels. Additional audio from CBS, Military Videos, the Associated Press, Congressman Steve Womack, the U.S. Naval Academy, CBSN, and Senator Lindsey Graham.
We're very fortunate to be joined by the editor of The West Point History of the Civil War (Simon and Schuster, 2014), the Head of the History Department at the United States Military Academy, Colonel Ty Seidule. Unlike most surveys, the new West Point History of the Civil War draws upon some of the best talent in the field of Civil War history, all called together to craft a synthetic text that not only forms the basis of the Military Academy's course on the subject, but also provides a very informative overview for the general public. Lavishly illustrated and featuring well-conceived maps and graphs, The West Point History of the Civil War is served by a fully digitized version, optimized for use on tablet platforms. Our interview with Colonel Seidule focuses on the special challenges he and his team confronted in crafting this text, and the place of the Civil War in the American experience. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/history
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