Recorded on the 20th of June 2020, two Matts start off with the usual k*kpraat (nonsense talk), and slowly get into a conversation that is very much necessary. See below for timestamps & links.In guest discussion,

Timestamps:00:00:00 :Introduction.00:00:40 : Lockdown Recap.00:31:40 : Uni Update.00:40:11 : Preface to Main Topic.00:45:30 : Introducing our guests/Switching to Zoom.00:48:15 : Intro to Discussion.00:48:24 : Should we follow American protests?00:59:28 : SA Youth Day, in discussion.01:05:40 : What does change look like in SA?01:13:19 : Bringing about racial equality.01:36:45 : High Schools speaking out - Your Silence will amplify.01:47:50 : Personal Problematic Experiences.02:08:47 : Outro

Asande Vilane:Bio: Medical Student, University of Cape Town;Blog: https://medium.com/@asandevilane345Podcast: https://anchor.fm/dialoguepodcast/TEDx: How investment in research can lead to economic empowerment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVvMcYMfyI8/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asandevilane/

Christopher Williamson:Bio: BA ENG|AFR|PSYCH; Jakes Gerwel Candidate Fellow, studying towards PGCEInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/christopher_williamson/Jakes Gerwel Fellowship: https://www.jgfellowship.org/

Liam Erasmus:Bio: BAccLLB, Stellenbosch University; Ambassador for Progress SAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/comrade_jack_the_beast/Play Liam in chess: https://www.chess.com/member/comradejackthebeast/ProgressSA: https://twitter.com/ProgressRSA?s=20/

Naomi Boswell:Bio: Medical Student, University of Cape Town; PoetInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/naomi.lauryn.b/