0:02

It's the best of two pros and a

0:04

couple, with LaVar Arrington rating

0:06

Winn and Jonas Knox on Box

0:09

Radio.

0:14

LaVar Arrington, Welcome back, guys, Happy

0:16

to have you.

0:16

Good morning. Hi

0:19

hek you how you doing?

0:21

Lots of lies spun yesterday as to why you

0:23

weren't here.

0:24

Yeah, just one off the top that

0:26

you said, Jonas, what was one you use?

0:28

Uh?

0:29

You did so poorly in your mock draft that

0:31

you were suspended for a show.

0:33

That was one.

0:34

We also threw out the go to ped

0:37

suspension.

0:38

Why are you throwing me into this? I didn't say any

0:40

of.

0:40

These because you were providing the content.

0:43

You had the ideas. You're the idea man.

0:44

I was just, oh, it sounds like I would be really concerned

0:47

about my mock draft accuracy.

0:48

Here right or me on peds?

0:51

You know, yeah, why not?

0:52

I don't pet already

0:55

know Varzel not trail.

0:57

I mean I have started using supplements

1:00

now, you know, you know that

1:02

that guy that talks about how you don't have

1:04

to eat right and all that stuff and he rips

1:06

his shirt off. They got me, he got me.

1:08

What are you talking about?

1:09

You like the v shred and all that stuff?

1:12

You never heard of it. I

1:15

don't know.

1:15

It's a doctor Drew I think is

1:18

on that program or whatever. Anyways,

1:20

it doesn't matter. I'm getting all stacked in jack now.

1:23

I mean I can see the difference. Not I've

1:25

been using it, and you see, i'd

1:27

be drinking green tea now and drink coffee

1:29

as much.

1:30

Yeah, I want to sellout there, you go,

1:32

man, Yeah, but.

1:34

Having just good old but you should, you know you should do just

1:36

try good old fashioned black coffee.

1:39

There's nothing.

1:40

Why has he got to be blacks?

1:42

Because he's trying to honor Lee, trying

1:47

to show some solidarity to Lee,

1:51

but you know he likes it black. So I'm gonna

1:53

go black damn with my coffee. That is,

1:56

with my coffee. I can't get too

1:58

carried away.

1:59

Now, what

2:02

supplements did you guys take when you were playing?

2:04

Did you? Were you all gassed up?

2:07

I took creating in high school because

2:09

I was trying to gang weight. And then once I realized

2:11

I didn't need to try to gang weights.

2:14

Protein well, Permany's protein for

2:16

certain protein for

2:19

certain one.

2:21

Two.

2:21

Oh man, that just didn't sound.

2:23

Right, no, Diddy,

2:27

Yeah, yeah,

2:30

Well I wasn't enough

2:32

protein in that game.

2:33

Last night, apparently

2:35

not down the stretch.

2:36

Said I wasn't quite what you had said,

2:39

var, but it wasn't far off.

2:40

Okay, the

2:43

Lakers have got to be so frustrated. If you're

2:45

a Laker fan, it's the

2:47

same thing every single

2:49

game. They're winning, they're

2:51

winning, they're winning, and then about six

2:53

minutes left to go in the game, Denver is like, all

2:56

right, we're good now.

2:57

Then I know

3:00

plays so poorly though. It was such

3:02

an ugly like they were so sloppy

3:04

in the game and still

3:07

beat them. That's how you know they're just

3:09

way better than the Lakers are.

3:12

So do you take any solace in the fact that I can't

3:14

wait? By the way, Petros Popadaegas is joining us

3:16

an hour three special Tuesday appearance. Do

3:18

you take any sauce? Do you take any

3:20

solace in the fact that the Lakers

3:23

in totality led for more minutes

3:26

than Denver did in the series? Like,

3:28

do you look at that and go, you know one

3:30

or two things here? You know it was competitive

3:32

sweep last year, and still they're

3:34

going home.

3:35

His Darvin Ham back next year?

3:37

He's gone,

3:40

No, please, is

3:42

Lebron James back?

3:44

Well, that's it's funny you bring

3:46

that up. Lebron James

3:48

did speak with the media postgame

3:51

and he was asked that same question,

3:54

and this was his response before

3:56

walking out of the press conference tonight.

3:59

Was there any thought at all that, you know, this could

4:01

have been your last game with the Lakers.

4:05

I'm not gonna answer that.

4:07

Appreciate it, and

4:10

away we go.

4:12

Let's say guys committed

4:15

committed to the old Lakers.

4:17

That's that Aaron Rodgers bit. Though

4:19

Aaron Rodgers and and Lebron Jaying

4:21

must have the same media coach.

4:24

I don't think they do. No, No, I

4:26

think his own man.

4:28

You might be right. I just I

4:30

just know this.

4:31

They always say something

4:34

that makes the off season all

4:36

about them.

4:38

Oh it's very vague, right, yeah, it's

4:40

it's always it's some sort of a vague response.

4:42

And yeah, like that's why last

4:44

year the conversation was more about

4:47

you know, the Lakers than it was Denver after

4:49

the series, which is why Mike Malone and and

4:51

those guys were pissed off a little bit and

4:54

they kind of held that grudge.

4:55

And then now we go into the office

4:58

the same exact thing he did, the same exact thing. That's

5:00

the same exact quote. It's not the same

5:02

exact quote. It's the same exact quote

5:04

in terms of it's so open

5:06

ended. So now it opens up the conversation.

5:09

Are you talking about between Rogers and the car?

5:11

Yeah? Okay, yeah,

5:13

yeah, yeah.

5:15

I mean Aaron Rodgers does it says

5:17

things that creatively

5:20

organically get people to want

5:22

to talk about him, even provocative.

5:25

I think he's lots of people going, get them going.

5:27

Yeah, but he's a little bit pants party.

5:30

He's pantsing.

5:31

But Rogers Heads has a little different flare

5:34

to it because it really welcomes in

5:36

like the UFO flat earthers to

5:38

be part of the conversation.

5:40

Are those the same people you can't believe

5:42

they're with this flat but also believe in UFO?

5:44

Yeah, I mean those two John Yeah.

5:46

Well, I'm just saying there are people that really

5:49

both those worlds.

5:50

You know, I don't think so. I

5:52

think those are two separate folks. I

5:54

think if you believe in UFOs, you

5:57

undoubtedly know the world is round,

6:00

and you would not believe in the flatter thing.

6:02

But UFOs and aliens have taken

6:04

a turn, like now there's some thought that

6:06

aliens are amongst us. I'm just saying

6:08

that they're walking around and they've been here for years.

6:10

Well, I mean, don't they have

6:12

like task force for that and order

6:15

a compliment?

6:15

By the way, I feel like LeVar is much closer

6:17

to an alien than you are. John, Jeez, what

6:21

damn that's a compliment.

6:22

I know it is, but I'm just trying to make sure the in

6:24

laws aren't listening.

6:26

It's what

6:30

that's the only one I know about.

6:33

You can't judge me for, of course, saying what

6:36

it is that I know about.

6:37

I mean, that's what I thought.

6:38

That's what you were talking about, are

6:43

those I mean, yeah,

6:48

you.

6:50

Sorry to the knocks in law.

6:55

I meant no harm by it.

6:56

I just was just saying, is that's

6:58

that's what I know of it.

7:00

Oh, there's just the conspiracy theory.

7:02

Folks feel like they're welcomed into the conversation

7:04

with Aaron Rodgers and with Lebron James.

7:06

It's like a lot of the Whinos, the people that hang out

7:09

at Vineyards and NAPA and like go there

7:11

for like you know, it's only basketball, their ten year

7:13

anniversary and stuff like that. Like those people

7:15

like hang out with Lebron in those services and then

7:17

they're welcomed into this conversation now.

7:19

So now they're gonna sit over a glass.

7:22

Of two buck chuck all off season and

7:24

think about whether or not they should get the

7:26

splurge and get the bottle of Rex Goliath,

7:29

or if they should sit around and ponder whether

7:31

or not Lebron James is going to be a Laker next year.

7:33

He's done it. He's made himself

7:36

the storyline heading into the off season because

7:38

he's got an opt out and he desperately

7:40

wants to play.

7:41

With his sons.

7:42

I don't think I'm going to answer this, you know, IM

7:45

not gonna partake, thank you. I'm

7:48

just going just continue to tea bag over here.

7:50

And geez, my my business, you

7:53

know is that three

7:55

you get three tea bags. I'm successfully

7:58

dipping my tea bags and it

8:00

is I'm tea bagging it.

8:02

Are you supposed to go just one tea bag?

8:04

That's what they say. I

8:06

want an extra strong, he wants extra bag.

8:08

That's right, sound

8:10

believe. I mean you can never want

8:13

tea bag too much. No,

8:15

there could never be too much t bagging.

8:19

That's a great point, man. That

8:26

is a That is a tremendous point.

8:28

Uh well, and that'll conclude our cover.

8:31

So listen, and the Celtics

8:33

had a great game too, Yeah you know

8:35

that.

8:36

Will wait to see what happens with Porzingis and

8:38

how significant his injury is.

8:40

He's going to get a test done later on. And then

8:42

you've also got the New Orleans Pelicans,

8:45

who Charles Barkley says he should

8:47

be sent to Galveston not Cancun.

8:49

Is going on nine am

8:52

in his studio for a reason, like

8:55

why why do I feel

8:57

like we'reing Fort Lauderdale or

8:59

Miami?

9:01

Is bright?

9:02

God dang, yeah, it's brighten there?

9:05

Watch it so bright there?

9:08

I can't.

9:09

I felt like you was live, bet Jesus,

9:11

like for real, Like I'm.

9:17

God, dag is bright? It's hell in here?

9:19

Yeah, like I'm I'm normally pasty. I'm

9:21

real pasty right now? Like it is I

9:24

look like a h is this is?

9:26

This?

9:26

Is this an attackle on my skin?

9:28

Color?

9:28

Light? I got it brightened here because I'm

9:30

dark on camera?

9:33

Racist?

9:34

There's the uh one.

9:35

Of the lights is not this like a subtle

9:38

Was this a subtlety of LeVar? We

9:41

we need to have more light on you, so

9:44

so the videos come out right, I don't

9:46

understand why so bright?

9:48

We need that big neon kickoff light is what we need.

9:50

That's what we need. I mean studio lights.

9:52

Of studio lights, man, you know what I mean,

9:54

like the big noon kickoff lights.

9:57

Boy, they got some studio lights.

9:59

Man.

9:59

That's why people wearing sunglasses on TV

10:01

though, because it'd be bright, so

10:04

bright, and you're like, man, it's the daytime.

10:06

We shouldn't need this much lighting.

10:08

We got the sun, you know, and

10:11

that thing will be blinding you. If

10:13

it looks like we're squinting, it's because

10:16

we are.

10:16

Because you're squinting. Yeah, because it's

10:18

bright in your ass. It's

10:20

hitting your cataracts and your retinas in your

10:22

corneas, right, all

10:26

those I don't know who got cataracts.

10:28

So if you guys were to bet,

10:31

will Lebron be back in LA next

10:33

year?

10:34

Yeah?

10:35

Yes, Okay, so you're betting

10:37

on them. What drafting with Browny?

10:39

No, may

10:42

be taking him as as a second round

10:45

or undrafted, signing

10:48

him as an undrafted free agent. Yeah,

10:51

I mean you get to choose then, I

10:53

mean that might be the plan, like he

10:56

should be drafted.

10:57

No, that should be the plan.

10:59

Though, the plan should be to

11:01

get go into the draft, go undrafted,

11:03

because then now he can

11:06

go sign with who he wants to sign with.

11:07

Well, is he fully committed to

11:10

going into the draft because he did enter

11:12

the portal and I heard I

11:14

saw some stuff out there that maybe Ducane,

11:17

because has

11:19

a relationship with Ducane.

11:21

Is that right?

11:21

Yeah, that they could be the landing spot for

11:24

him, the Duke. And I'll be honest

11:26

with you, I was going to look more into it and the Dukes.

11:28

The NFL Draft was on and I was like, screw that,

11:30

I get better things to do, is Dukes?

11:34

I think? So?

11:34

Come on, man, Pittsburgh.

11:36

You know it's the bird We used to

11:38

practice there during state state

11:40

champion state playoffs. We

11:42

used to practice on their field because they

11:45

had a better, better

11:47

field surface because of the how

11:49

bad the weather got, so we used to go down

11:51

to du Cane.

11:52

It's kind of a weird location. It just sort of pops

11:54

up. It's like just right there. It's

11:57

just like right there, really strange. See

11:59

the little county jail right

12:01

there.

12:04

Who's over there right out right off

12:06

the fifth a half so it's

12:08

out the fifth alf What up?

12:10

Sam Clancy? Yeah up?

12:11

No, what uf Sam Clancy?

12:14

It's funest Yeah, So

12:16

that's the that's the speculation. But

12:19

the fun part about all this is that the Lakers

12:21

get eliminated.

12:22

That's fun.

12:23

Lebron James, Well, it's fun because we're gonna have Petros

12:25

on and he's gonna probably unload

12:28

that night. Yeah, because, as he says,

12:31

he's been getting nailed by the king for years

12:33

now in this town and he's tired

12:35

of it and the rubber's got to

12:37

meet the road and he's going to put a stop to

12:39

all the nonsense that's going on. So we'll get all

12:41

that from Petro's coming up an hour three.

12:44

Be sure to catch live editions of Two

12:46

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12:48

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12:50

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12:53

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12:55

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12:58

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13:00

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13:03

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13:03

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13:05

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13:07

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13:09

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13:10

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13:12

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13:13

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13:17

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13:19

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13:19

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13:21

Listen to the Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio

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13:26

you get your podcasts. You guys gonna

13:28

watch this Tom Brady roast coming up

13:31

on a Sunday.

13:32

I probably won't. I'll

13:34

miss it. Yeah, I don't think I am either.

13:36

Yeah, I'm just not sure how aggressive they're going

13:39

to be with him. I think Belichick's one of the roasters.

13:41

By the way.

13:42

I think they're going to be really aggressive. Think. So, yes,

13:45

here's the dynamic. And

13:48

I'm not saying this it's like, oh, you know people

13:50

they don't really understand.

13:53

But I would say locker room talk

13:56

cuts like knives, man, and

13:58

that is what we're about to get

14:01

between the former players he played with,

14:04

and even Bill Belichick, who

14:07

even in his team meetings. I mean, look, I've

14:10

never been in his team meetings, but I've been in a lot of

14:12

coaches who tried to mimic what those are

14:14

like, and that is not.

14:17

For the fan of heart.

14:19

So I think it's gonna be spectacular

14:22

and it's gonna.

14:23

Be rough, Like

14:27

who's the one can meet?

14:28

Is that Anthony jessel Nick who talks

14:30

like very like dark, yeah,

14:32

like about death and everything all the time.

14:34

Pittsburgh guy.

14:35

Yeah.

14:36

Well, all I'm saying is, imagine that time's

14:38

eight people up there just digging

14:40

in on him the whole time.

14:42

The problem is Greg Giraldo

14:44

passed away. Look up

14:47

Greg Giraldo's roast. The

14:49

stuff is so offensive that you cannot

14:51

believe that he that he didn't just get

14:54

assaulted, like he went after everybody from

14:56

Warren Sap to David

14:59

Hasselho like nobody

15:01

was untouchable.

15:02

And then I think Jeff.

15:03

Ross is going to be He's always the like

15:06

the roastmaster, so he's going to be the

15:08

kind of leading the charge.

15:09

With all this.

15:10

But I'm wondering which comedians show up.

15:12

Is Gillis going to get the call?

15:14

Didn't they say Kevin Hart was going to be a part of it?

15:17

Kevin Hart, I've not seen if

15:19

Shane Gillis would be. I would imagine they'd be

15:21

some comedians that have some sort of tie back to Boston,

15:24

right have they said? With Mark Walberg's

15:26

and be a part of it.

15:28

I don't know.

15:29

I don't know why. I feel like he would be a surprised person to

15:31

be involved.

15:32

I could see that.

15:33

Yeah, well listen, the one

15:35

place you're not going to see Tom Brady is back on

15:37

the field in New England.

15:39

We can assure you.

15:40

There was some speculation that, you

15:42

know, Brady said he would be open to a potential

15:45

return. He threw out the Patriots,

15:47

the forty nine Ers, the Raiders, just kind of having

15:49

fun, a what if scenario.

15:51

If somebody needed him.

15:52

The new Patriots head coach Drod Mayle

15:54

was on the Greg Hill Show and he

15:57

spoke about the potential of Tom Brady

15:59

returning to New England.

16:00

I love to and the door is always open

16:02

if he wants to come in here and coach. But going

16:05

on the field, I don't know. But if he comes in here

16:07

once again, going back to the hey

16:09

the best player we'll play. You got to come here and compete,

16:11

and he loves competition. I

16:13

doubt he's going to be walking through his doors anytime now.

16:17

If he wanted to come back and play, why the hell would he play

16:19

for the Patriots.

16:20

They're gonna be just even talk of like if you want to come

16:22

back and coach, It's like, why the hell we want

16:25

to coach? I mean, like

16:27

for starters, he's making thirty seven and a

16:29

half million to be on TV.

16:32

Geez, so I'm gonna

16:34

pay him that maybe playing

16:37

but not coaching.

16:39

I just I don't really understand, don't

16:43

really understand if he was going to come.

16:45

Back and play. San

16:47

fran and Vegas are the places

16:49

that make sense, like if somebody

16:51

needed him, if there was an injury,

16:53

God forbid to Brock Purdy or something

16:56

like that. Those But I don't even think it's

16:58

even allowed if he's to be owner

17:00

of the Raiders, that he can come back and play. So

17:02

the whole conversation was just odd. It's

17:05

not going to happen, and call me

17:07

like listen, maybe I'm on an island. I'm

17:09

I'm more interested in seeing what he's

17:12

like as a broadcaster than him coming back to

17:14

turn as a player. I want to see how this works.

17:17

I want to see how good he's gonna.

17:18

Be back to the roast. So

17:21

Belichick's gonna be a part of it. Do

17:23

you think it's more of a decision Belichick made almost

17:27

to get back at Craft in a way, is

17:29

Robert Kraft canna be a part of it?

17:33

If I was, I haven't seen anything that says Craft will be a

17:35

part.

17:35

If I was Robert Kraft, I'd probably steer clear from a roast.

17:38

You know.

17:40

The problem is, it's not just the guy who's getting

17:43

roasted, it's everybody else on stage and attendance.

17:46

You're also going to get it.

17:47

Too, was

17:49

Robert Kraft, and you don't want any stories

17:52

about the easy target target.

17:54

He steps on the staget

17:58

eight on his back, it's on the front.

18:01

Dang.

18:02

Yeah.

18:04

But my point is it seems

18:06

like he's getting outside the.

18:07

Box for Bill Belichick.

18:09

He was a part of the draft coverage. Now

18:12

he's doing this. I

18:14

don't know if this is gonna work out well for Robert

18:16

Craft. It's not, you know,

18:19

And in the end, he's gonna look like the

18:22

bad guy and people

18:24

are gonna forget about his role in

18:26

their success in comparison to

18:28

Tom and Bill be infamous.

18:31

Yeah, well, they're just they're gonna be out there

18:33

more. He's gonna be kind of be sit back

18:35

in the shadows. But I almost wonder too, if Bill

18:38

committed to this before Robert

18:40

Craft even could, even if he wanted to because

18:43

now you'd think, oh, maybe they both can be

18:45

involved. But to your point, A, he'd be an easy

18:48

target and B, well, Belichick already

18:50

committed to it, So how's that interaction gonna

18:52

work out? After the documentary came out, we're craft

18:54

based. We tried to bury Belichick.

18:56

And and also the more that you that

18:58

people talk about the documentary

19:00

and the more that there's pushback on it, even

19:03

Robert Kraft tried to say, oh, you know, we didn't have any

19:05

input on that, and it was like, all right, it's craft

19:07

LLC. At the end of the credits each episode,

19:10

it feels like, yeah,

19:13

like and.

19:13

That paid for it.

19:14

If you paid for it, you can have a saying

19:16

what it's coming out On the other side, I'm certainly

19:19

say.

19:19

And so when when all these former players

19:22

are coming out, going, man, I don't like the way

19:24

Belichick was being represented. And it's it's

19:26

not just one or two. It's Brady,

19:28

it's Gronk, it's Devin mccordy,

19:31

it's Rodney Harrison, it's

19:33

you know, Stefan Gilmour, Like all these

19:35

guys have come out after Yeah,

19:37

like I was duped, and they're pissed

19:39

about it there.

19:40

Telling me it was one thing and it turned out to be

19:42

something else. That's what I've heard.

19:44

And so it feels like the tables have turned

19:46

to where now you know, Belichick was he's

19:49

got to go, He's the problem. And

19:51

you know, one of the story, one of the pieces of that article

19:53

that came out from Seth Wickersham and Company was

19:55

that, you know, Belichick kind

19:58

of views it as if he goes somewhere else

20:00

and has success, who does Robert Kraft

20:02

have to blame if the coach and the quarterback went

20:04

somewhere else and wine and you've still got

20:06

a bag of craft for a football

20:08

team that you've had for the past few years.

20:11

And it's not I'll say this.

20:12

I when we first were

20:14

talking about it, I

20:16

took a stance like man

20:19

craft is craft, and

20:21

in so many ways he is Craft is craft.

20:24

But the more I've.

20:26

Listened to you guys, and the more I've kind of

20:28

dug into it, it does seem

20:30

a tad bit curious that

20:33

the stakes are so high on

20:35

every little thing that happens, like

20:38

this is just a roast. All it should be is

20:40

really it's a roast, right, But

20:43

yet it still turns into like a politically

20:45

driven you know, politics

20:47

between them and what's

20:50

going on, and it's like

20:52

it just seems all so calculated,

20:56

like who called for the roast

20:59

right with Tom Brady? Because there's

21:01

something to that, and you gotta believe it's

21:03

something to it, based upon probably

21:06

that documentary coming out. I

21:08

just think that it's it's just it just seems

21:11

interesting now that why

21:14

would Robert Kraft put himself

21:16

You're the owner of the franchise.

21:19

Why would you ever put.

21:20

Yourself in a position where you've become

21:23

infamous when you've done so many

21:25

great things with two of

21:27

the greatest to ever be apart more

21:29

than two, you've done it with multiple

21:32

greatest ever of all time?

21:35

Why even why even go down

21:37

that? Why let your ego take

21:39

you down that road? It

21:41

just doesn't make sense to me.

21:43

Remember when Breer brought up the point, and

21:45

it was kind of I think we even said, you

21:47

know, that's an angle of this that we hadn't thought about,

21:49

but that Robert Kraft desperately wants

21:52

to get into the Hall of Fame, and that

21:54

there was some thought that once

21:57

that stuff came out, you know where

21:59

he went to it, you know, orchards

22:01

of Asia or whatever it's called in Jupiter.

22:05

It's just so good name.

22:08

It really is a mess up.

22:10

It's like like if you were going to try to get out

22:12

of this one, like, hey, where where was it that

22:15

we caught these people? It was called Orchards

22:17

of Asia, Like you can't get out of

22:19

the way of that.

22:19

He went from Robert Craft, owner

22:22

of a team that won six Super Bowls, to

22:24

Bobby Orchids, Bobby Orchids

22:26

with the flip of a switch.

22:27

I had at least twenty text

22:29

messages saying, Bobby,

22:32

Bobby Orchids, really, really

22:35

Bobby Orchids.

22:36

It's kind of dope, so shirt.

22:39

So I wonder if he's almost in

22:41

desperation mode where he's gonna be Bobby

22:45

Orchids.

22:45

Come on, man, that's the background.

22:48

Oh my god, it

22:50

was like caricatures of Robert Craft.

22:53

Oh man, Bobby

22:55

Orchid a design where

22:58

I just I wonder if he's almost in aspiration

23:00

mode where he's got to try and change

23:03

the narrative and the discussion about himself

23:06

because he feels like maybe time's.

23:08

Running out and he's got to get into the Hall of Fame.

23:09

I guess Jerry Jones getting in before

23:12

him really bothered him, like

23:14

really bothered him. And when you think about it,

23:16

he's got all the credentials, like

23:18

he's got all those super Bowl champions,

23:21

he's run a successful franchise, or he's

23:24

going in.

23:24

But he's going

23:26

in O.

23:28

I mean, there's no way Robert Kraft

23:31

is not going into the NFL Hall of Fame.

23:33

He will definitely make it in. The question

23:35

is that he'd make it ahead of Mike Shanahan. And

23:38

the one thing that I think he has going for him

23:41

that voters will be cognizant

23:43

of is he is eighty two years old,

23:46

and so I think they try

23:48

they look at someone like I mean, not that you ever should

23:52

take that for granted just because Mike Shanahan's

23:54

eleven years younger. It doesn't mean that you

23:56

should surpass him because Kraft

23:58

is older. But I think there is a thought

24:01

to that, like, hey, let's let's get

24:03

an older guy in so he can be welcomed

24:05

while he's still alive instead of potentially

24:08

after his passing. So that

24:10

that would be the one thought I think, because

24:12

it's really between Mike Shanahan and

24:15

Robert Kraft at this point, I thought.

24:17

Why the hell would Mike Shanahan not be in the Hall

24:19

of Fame.

24:19

But I have no idea.

24:22

It almost like I when

24:24

Albert Preer brought that up, I

24:26

thought he.

24:27

Was a part of the Hall of Fame already.

24:29

I just assumed, and I was like, I looked at him, like, wait a second,

24:31

He's not a part of the Hall of Fame.

24:33

It's ridiculous.

24:35

I mean, like, what other credentials do you need

24:38

from him to be like I like he's

24:40

and is Like how many as far as

24:43

like offensive minds that

24:45

have changed the game or revolutionized

24:48

the game, like Mike Shannan's on a list

24:50

right of guys that have that have implemented

24:52

something that is still used all these years later.

24:55

Yes, so like widely used

24:58

by the league almost probably half the offenses.

25:00

And so you figure the Super Bowls, the Hall of

25:02

Fame players he coached, the

25:05

you know, his innovations and ideas

25:08

and stuff that he uses and still just

25:10

not in the Hall of Fame. There's no scandal, there's

25:12

no like you know, background issues

25:14

or anything like that, and for whatever reason, he's still not in

25:16

the Hall of Fame. It's just odd. So

25:18

hopefully he'll get in, and hopefully that happens soon. But

25:21

if you're Orchids, if

25:23

you're a if you're Bobby

25:26

Orchids, I would steer clear of that roast on Sinco

25:28

to my O, not a not a safe

25:30

place for you.

25:31

But I still might get hit with at where he's

25:33

sitting. Wherever he's sitting,

25:35

he's still gonna get hit.

25:36

Like if you were if you were a professional

25:38

comic and they called you and said, hey, can

25:41

you come up with some material for us, If

25:44

somebody threw that at you and said, by the way, here's

25:46

this in case you were interested. That's

25:48

the open and the close of my set, Like

25:51

I would open with Bobby Orchids, and I would close

25:53

with Bobby Orchids, and especially knowing that Belichick

25:55

and Tom Brady are there, just to make everybody

25:58

feel that much more awkward. So we'll

26:00

see how it plays out.

26:01

Makes feel awkward, I think they'd probably just

26:03

start laughing.

26:04

I think I want Brady would probably feel

26:06

awkward, but I think Belichick would

26:08

love it. Yeah, because you

26:10

know they tried to shame him with that, you know that

26:13

walk of shame video from Nantucket last

26:15

year. Please guys trying to have a good time

26:17

with his shirt off, you know, God forbid

26:19

he takes home a straight.

26:20

Yeah all we know? Yeah, that

26:24

up satisfy.

26:26

No chance he makes it to the end of the show.

26:28

I'll say that, Lee,

26:30

what do you think about that?

26:32

You cannot confirm nor deny?

26:35

All right, we love you, buddy,

26:39

final like Lebron right there, Like,

26:41

what the hell did that mean?

26:42

It was not me?

26:42

All right?

26:43

We played uh we played

26:45

taps for Lee. We're going to talk about Lee

26:47

all off season now, yeah,

26:50

Lee, Lee?

26:51

All right, it is too will not answer that question,

26:55

cute.

26:55

Be sure to catch live editions of Two

26:57

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27:00

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27:02

weekdays at six am Eastern, three

27:04

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27:06

Right now.

27:06

He is in for a special Tuesday appearance.

27:08

He is the old Pe Petros Papadakis.

27:12

You hear him on the Petros and Money Show, which

27:14

you can be heard on the blow Torch AM

27:16

five seventy l A Sports college

27:18

football.

27:19

Right, come on, man, do it again the blow Tour.

27:21

No, that wasn't good enough, man, Come on man, do it.

27:23

Bring him in right the blow torch there

27:26

you gom five seventy LA Sports. The

27:28

Old Pe Petros, what's happening?

27:31

What are you guys doing tomorrow? You got like a twenty

27:33

twenty five mock draft going on.

27:37

That's always wondering the same thing.

27:38

That's lee. Li'sa moving some stuff

27:40

around.

27:41

Yeah, a moving stuff around.

27:44

We got Kentucky Derby this week. We got a special

27:46

guest, Kentucky Derby.

27:48

Yeah.

27:48

Oh, and I don't want to wait for Petro's

27:50

an extra hour.

27:51

No, I I uh my

27:54

life is collapsing. Dang, I'll

27:56

say that.

27:57

No, it's all right.

27:58

I've been replaced from the

28:00

job I did on the Beach Life concert

28:02

for like the last six years. Wait what four

28:05

days out? They replaced me with a King's cheerleader.

28:08

Oh no really yep? What is

28:10

she good looking?

28:11

Well, Petrick, I would assume kylie.

28:18

Hey, Petros, we've been promoting that thing for

28:20

what a month?

28:21

I know, I know.

28:23

So they took you texted them on Monday,

28:25

like, hey, what's the plan this year?

28:28

And they were like, well, actually, oh

28:30

no, really yeah, oh that sucks.

28:33

That's all right. Anyway, I'm here

28:35

and I'm happy to be here. What

28:38

a time to be a lot.

28:39

Well, listen, we do have a little bit of good news

28:41

for you.

28:42

I don't know if you'd gotten a chance to see this, but

28:44

uh, the Athletic.

28:45

Reported following, Uh I saw

28:47

this.

28:48

Yeah that that you

28:50

know, the Lakers are not only open

28:52

to bringing back Lebron James on a three

28:54

year, one hundred six four million dollar extension,

28:56

but they're open to drafting his son,

28:59

Bronni so Petros. We play

29:01

our cards right here. Screw beach

29:03

life. We got Ronnie life for the next

29:07

or usc when you got the Lakers

29:09

bade every.

29:11

Day I wake up, I lose another job. I used to

29:13

have so many jobs

29:16

I used to be. Now I'm more like

29:18

a Trinidadian jobs.

29:21

You only got tree job jobs.

29:24

I have to say, uh, I did

29:26

just wake up to that too. I saw it in Bleacher

29:29

Report that the Lakers were open, quote

29:31

unquote to doing all these

29:33

things, and it's just

29:35

like somebody gave the King on another

29:37

big mac odos of cialis

29:41

and he's going to continue to nail us here

29:43

in La.

29:44

We've been getting nailed by the.

29:45

King here for years and

29:48

it's pretty I have to say,

29:51

people aren't going to be into this, and

29:53

I'm not by people. I just don't mean like bitter,

29:56

angry, aging radio

29:58

types like my I

30:01

mean, Laker fans, people

30:04

that really actually care about this team.

30:06

This is not going to go over well if

30:09

they try to do this.

30:11

I understand the marketability of having

30:13

Lebron and what else are you going to do? And

30:16

we got to milk it for as long as we can, kind

30:19

of similar to the end of Kobe's career,

30:21

which was marred with injury

30:23

and first round exits and all those

30:26

different things.

30:26

That we kind of don't remember anymore.

30:29

But I saw that report

30:31

and it was like, man, that is

30:34

that is a punch to the stomach.

30:36

Did you hear his post game afterwards?

30:38

His walking?

30:40

Oh, it was so late. I mean I went to bed.

30:42

Okay, so if you want to hear it, it's about ten

30:44

seconds. I believe this was Dan Wiki who

30:47

was asking him the question. Yeah,

30:50

and so he asked

30:53

him the question, and this is how it Santa. Before Lebron

30:55

James walked off.

30:56

Tonight, was there any thought at all that you

30:58

know, this could have been last game with

31:00

the Lakers.

31:03

I'm not gonna answer that.

31:05

Appreciate it and that's just basketball,

31:07

guys, Yeah, that's it.

31:08

He's just basketball.

31:09

I don't know. I don't know if I

31:11

want to answer that it's just basketball. Yet you

31:14

know, maybe I'll wait for that. Petrock.

31:15

He's a great player, there's no doubt

31:18

he's one of the all time greats. It can't

31:20

be argued with. But man, what

31:22

a confounding person to cover. And

31:26

the thing is, it's like we're not none

31:29

of us are this dumb, but

31:31

Lebron probably is, and we

31:33

all just kind of go along with it, like, okay,

31:35

whatever you say, like it is amazing, and

31:39

I'm sorry that I never felt this way when

31:41

he was in Cleveland and Miami and people

31:43

would say, no, no, no, this guy is all

31:46

the weird.

31:46

Subtweeting and all that stuff.

31:48

This guy it's

31:50

it's it's insufferable, and

31:52

it truly is.

31:54

It truly is so good luck to the Lakers.

31:56

We usually have Genie Buss come

31:59

out every summer to one

32:01

of our events, you know, on

32:03

our summer thing that we do, and

32:06

you know, we just kind of grin and Barrett and be like,

32:09

hey, so, yeah, you're getting married to Jay

32:11

Moore. Okay, great, you know, like we

32:13

you know, we just tell her everything's awesome. I

32:15

don't know what I'm gonna do this, sir. You

32:20

know, if they bring Lebron back and draft

32:22

Browny, Like, how am I going to be, like, hey, welcome

32:25

to the show.

32:25

Gee, you know, like I.

32:29

Mean, I don't care. It's it's funny for all

32:31

of us. But if I was a Laker fan,

32:34

and I know there's a lot out there, if

32:36

you thought Kobe was polarizing, which he was.

32:39

People don't realize that, but Kobe was probably

32:42

the most polarizing basketball player in the history

32:44

of basketball before this guy.

32:47

And he happens to be here in LA and

32:49

unlike Kobe, he's not a lifetime

32:51

Laker or anything like that. And we

32:53

talk about it. All those things. They kind

32:55

of become on savory. And

32:58

it all started when he arrived in town and said

33:00

he was going to show up at a Blaze Pizza and

33:02

he never showed. A couple thousand

33:04

people came out there ready to see the King, and

33:06

what did they get to see? Nothing but the

33:09

blight that we live amongst all the time

33:11

here in the city of Los Angeles.

33:12

Nothing.

33:13

Yeah, but he did tweet a photo of him in

33:15

a swimming pool at the time those fans were

33:17

waiting in the sun to see him.

33:18

A believe Yeah, he's got a great finger on the pulse.

33:20

So what people want?

33:22

Hand on the shaft.

33:23

Yeah, he really does.

33:24

He's got a hand on the shaft of the remote

33:26

control of the world. We're

33:28

getting nailed by the king. Brady got to come down.

33:30

It feels great, Okay.

33:33

I try to uh yeah, well we have to wear a mask

33:35

on what that that happens, so I try to avoid

33:37

that. I'm not sure really

33:40

where to go from here. I I

33:44

understand the topic of the Lakers only because

33:47

I guess it's like, what are you talking about Bronni

33:50

Well, not so much even Bronne, Its

33:52

just like what are they selling?

33:54

Like? I actually think the Clippers are a more.

33:58

Well arena.

34:00

New Arena is going to open up next year and they got more

34:02

toilets than anybody in the history of the world.

34:05

Sweet because

34:09

all the vegan diets out there, all those evils

34:11

people are eating what they've done to Uh.

34:13

I thought there was spelled.

34:14

A kai are

34:17

joking. It's a joke, you were people

34:19

are sprinkling a fire hose.

34:21

Thanks geez, it's

34:24

so a defecation joke. Is

34:27

that the direction you wanted to do?

34:30

Well? I guess I said, grew yeah,

34:32

grow up? Thanks Listen

34:36

they're opening a new arena in Inglewood. Everybody

34:39

knows that. The thing that bothers me about it

34:42

is now that there's like these two big arenas

34:44

in Inglewood and they reopened the Forum as

34:46

a concert venue. Do you know they've

34:48

closed seven schools in Inglewood

34:51

since then? They closed

34:53

They're closing more morning Side High

34:56

and Morningside High schools where Byron Scott

34:58

and Lisa Leslie. Jim Herrick was the

35:00

coach there before

35:03

he went to Pepperdine. Now I

35:07

don't under the financial situation and

35:09

how they've been mismanaged or what have they been doing in

35:11

Inglewood over the years. That's

35:13

part of the argument. But really

35:15

what the argument is from what I understand,

35:17

is now that all these places

35:19

have gone to Inglewood and they've

35:22

kind of revitalized the community in a certain way

35:24

if you look at it like that where they

35:26

scoop all the hoboes out and stuff when they had the

35:28

Super Bowl to act like there's no hoboes

35:30

there. They

35:32

closed seven schools because the property is

35:35

so valuable now and they

35:37

can sell the property. Dude, they close seven

35:39

schools for kids in Inglewood. It's

35:44

so it's kind of hard to be like, yeah, I can't wait for this

35:46

new Clipper arena. It reminds me of

35:49

that story. And Morningside

35:51

High is the most recognizable

35:54

one because it's a high school, but the rest are

35:56

like middle schools and junior highs and stuff,

35:58

and it's all bs because

36:01

they're changing that whole city around because

36:03

the Clippers are showing up.

36:05

But hey, toilets.

36:06

I mean, as long as they don't touch Randy's

36:09

Donuts. I think that's really the most important thing of all

36:11

this.

36:11

If Randy's Donuts becomes a Krispy

36:13

Kreme.

36:13

Then.

36:19

Can I ask one question for we

36:21

let you go, or at least I don't know, maybe

36:23

another question after, But what

36:26

was your what was your opinion

36:28

on your boy Caleb getting drafted?

36:31

I mean, you know, a long

36:33

distance call from a mystery blonde.

36:39

I mean he was getting like there was it

36:42

would have been.

36:42

A shock if he wasn't right right, Yes, yeah,

36:45

I mean I'd find the draft interesting

36:47

later, you know, usually around

36:50

the time the second round starts, because like

36:52

that's when people I covered

36:54

a bunch get

36:56

drafted, right, like weird players

36:59

like that tight end from Kansas State. You

37:01

know, people like that, and that's

37:04

cool. I'm always excited to see

37:06

how that plays out because it's less predictable

37:08

and and that's kind of where

37:12

my football expertise lies. But

37:15

in the first round, I mean, you

37:18

guys got drafted, you guys went.

37:20

Through the process. You understand so much more about

37:22

it.

37:22

And that's why your show's so valuable, especially

37:24

around this time of year, because you can talk about what

37:26

it's like. I don't think people realize

37:29

what a difficult thing it is, whether you're Caleb

37:31

Williams, who seems to have a great deal of confidence,

37:35

or or anybody. The

37:38

draft is a really weird time because

37:40

being on a football team is like

37:42

you're you're always protected right

37:45

in a certain kind of way, by the pads, by

37:48

your teammates, by the tunnel,

37:50

by the sideline. You just

37:53

you're you're always kind of insulated. And

37:55

when you get done playing football, no

37:58

matter if you're going to be the number one pick in the draft,

38:01

you don't have.

38:01

That team anymore.

38:02

You've been spit out and you're now an

38:04

individual and you're just out there kind of floating

38:07

in space. And I guess these guys

38:09

deal with it a lot more nowadays with the transfer

38:11

portal and kind of the way individuals

38:14

have been celebrated.

38:15

More in the sport.

38:16

But I always think about that, like,

38:18

these are really young people and it's a very lonely

38:20

time, and everybody,

38:22

as you can see in their family and their periphery

38:25

and their girlfriend, everybody's

38:27

trying to be close to them in that moment. And

38:30

that part of it is kind of an interesting social

38:33

experiment to watch. But

38:37

for me, it's more interesting kind of down

38:40

the line where the guys start

38:42

getting drafted, second, third, fourth round, but

38:45

you guys have dealt with it a lot more

38:47

that weird kind of feeling in the draft.

38:50

And I just can't believe

38:52

so many people show up to

38:54

see somebody's name get called. And to Boo

38:56

the governor of Michigan, it's seven

39:00

hundred thousand people showed up for that. Like

39:03

hey, we're the Denver people. We wear big Denver

39:05

hats. It's like

39:07

like, did the NFL place you there?

39:09

Do they give you the sign? Like people

39:12

love football?

39:13

Man, I get it, but it's not foot log,

39:15

But it's not football.

39:17

They're not getting nailed by the King.

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You're right, You're not getting.

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Nailed by the somebody is yeah, Petros.

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The rest of today Petros.

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Sure the rest of the.

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Day, you're getting it nailed. P.

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Yeah, that's Petros.

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Have a new oil that I'm using. Whoa

39:35

cbd.

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Ta take this? It's called Grandma

39:39

Parl. Get your some.

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Okay, get him on Twitter

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at the old P. We appreciate it. We'll

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do it together next week.

39:48

Patri Hey, how sad did

39:50

Joe Alt's girlfriend loove she

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looks by.

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The way, is it mere? Did he get up and like

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hug everyone awkwardly? Or

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when you're that big, do you just look awkward?

39:59

If they had him on the show, he seemed pretty

40:01

Uh. I was like, you're not gonna

40:03

go Hollywood, are you?

40:04

Joe?

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You're not going to stop wearing that quarters him.

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What he said?

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No, no, sir, this was who I'm a I am.

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No sir, no sir, Look.

40:16

As you already making fun of the notre dame guy.

40:18

I love him.

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Uh.

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The echoes, well,

40:25

there's gonna be some echos being waked up when the King

40:27

is nailing you today, buddy.

40:28

Yeah, would you stop it getting nailed by

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the king. I've been saying it for

40:32

two years. It's like like

40:35

the guy in the eighties that just figured out where's

40:37

the beef, saying it over and over

40:39

again.

40:40

Where's the beef, where's the exactly

40:43

where it is?

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Yeah, swinging

40:46

from the king.

40:48

Come on, we'll

40:52

see if Petros there. He is the great

40:54

patrospa egg is Uh yes.

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Guy, he's the best. He's

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a best. Can't stop, won't stop.