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Hour 1: Jonas Brady & LaVar – DEGENERATE GAMBLING & BELICHICK DONE DITY

Hour 1: Jonas Brady & LaVar – DEGENERATE GAMBLING & BELICHICK DONE DITY

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Hour 1: Jonas Brady & LaVar – DEGENERATE GAMBLING & BELICHICK DONE DITY

Hour 1: Jonas Brady & LaVar – DEGENERATE GAMBLING & BELICHICK DONE DITY

Hour 1: Jonas Brady & LaVar – DEGENERATE GAMBLING & BELICHICK DONE DITY

Hour 1: Jonas Brady & LaVar – DEGENERATE GAMBLING & BELICHICK DONE DITY

Thursday, 18th April 2024
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A couple of teams in that haven't

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eighty two games we had of the regular season

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reward for finishing at the bottom of the conference

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as a second chance. Aside for

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as good as active bottom of the conference?

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yeah. And you know if

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and deserved to be there they give

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you one game. But. If you

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china's state but not always think like the

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last two teams than they give you away

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but like they give you the chance to

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win. And if you win then you play

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the winner of the stinky his team and

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then whoever wins that game gets into the

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playoffs. I mean that's how I interpret it

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it, you know. I think it's kinda weird

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to. Are you really

5:26

that desperate to add more? Play out

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Quote: Unquote Playoff games like I really

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feel like there's too many and you

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get an add more to train entice

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people with this Winner Wow winner gets

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a loser goes home set up and

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scenario of you want that why don't

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you just do that for the first

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round of applause Anyways and we thought

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about before they go to limit the

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name number games in the first round

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and want to do her best of

5:51

three series or I'd I would love

5:53

that bars or be starting. With or

5:55

whatever revelations. Instead we gotta.

5:58

We're gonna confuse everybody with this. Which

6:00

is probably why I jumped a porta decided

6:02

to gamble. He was really born of burn

6:05

all those that want to be aborted it

6:07

in him but why did he said it?

6:09

You know what the way this players not

6:11

does or something or do this anymore It

6:13

is on one of my favorite stories the

6:15

Discover Lager the World of Sports I had

6:17

a long time a jaunty poor her while

6:20

she didn't like plane in the N B

6:22

A that submitted to worry about so that's

6:24

a good news anchors. He has received a

6:26

lifetime ban from Adam Silver in the National

6:28

Basketball Association for gambling on. Games for

6:30

I you know revealing injury information

6:32

and kind of sending that out

6:34

to a two day norm a

6:36

known sports better and somebody use

6:38

i was place in these wagers

6:41

you guys Hundred thousand dollar attempted

6:43

bets on games that he would

6:45

be no subbed himself out on

6:47

like the whole thing. just an

6:49

absolute fiasco and apparently the numbers

6:51

would say based on what he

6:53

was making as an M B

6:55

A player and what his return

6:57

was on his games they he

6:59

bent on. Which is not you know

7:01

not counting the be no ten percent

7:03

or five percent or whatever he was

7:05

getting his kites forgiving out this information

7:07

on on bet he was involved in

7:09

just his gambling alone. Well.

7:11

Like a net Twenty one thousand dollar

7:14

return? yeah, that's correct on her phone

7:16

app on a foreigner plus thousand dollar

7:18

salary. Yeah, didn't feel like financially the

7:20

most sound move, but. At. Least

7:22

now you can gambles much nuance and not

7:25

have any i any repercussions. That's one way

7:27

of putting it up as a good thing

7:29

is you have to look at the opportunity

7:31

cost like he chose to gamble and put

7:33

his career were at risk which he's. Made.

7:36

Over two billion dollars in his

7:38

basketball career. And. Said

7:40

to make what twenty one I was. Twenty

7:42

two Thousand dollars. Betting that. I

7:45

A I don't get him as it

7:47

does their from a point try where

7:50

we is. There has to be an

7:52

acknowledgement that. Gambling.

7:54

Is. No different

7:57

than an addiction to drugs

7:59

or alcohol. Or anything like

8:01

that like those the way. These.

8:03

Guys continue to to fall short.

8:06

It's like a sickness. New. Said.

8:09

And yeah, like your chair be

8:11

taken lightly every single time some

8:13

of these guys are crossing themselves

8:15

or an opportunity to take care

8:17

of themselves and not Sanderson be

8:19

self. You know, culpability and accountability

8:21

connected to it's but at some

8:23

point. All of the East

8:26

all of these sports leagues are now

8:28

embracing. Gamelin. Gambling is a part of

8:30

them making more more money with their

8:32

revenue and it's become a part of

8:35

the culture of what's taking place. That's

8:37

like putting. Know or crack and

8:39

front of a doping and a crack head

8:41

and say we're gonna make money off it

8:44

is dope and there's crack but don't as

8:46

you don't you can dodge. I use it.

8:48

You can't use that. You're not allowed to

8:50

use it as is so I guess some

8:53

point there has to be an our of

8:55

maybe an idea or a look of how

8:57

to to engage this and not engage it

8:59

from such a a definitive now so mate

9:01

deserve in this might be deserving in this

9:04

moment but I'm just saying in general. It.

9:07

Might be something I didn't like. this.

9:09

These proteins really might need to take

9:11

a hard look at. Like. If

9:13

a guy as a problem, a guy has

9:15

a problem. Obviously, if you're willing to risk

9:17

your whole entire career, Oh

9:20

know she's now I said I said several

9:22

is sad and I understand we're saying is

9:25

they probably are viewing and like that I

9:27

just i don't think you can see know.

9:30

If. Is this is one guy and as good

9:32

as it's it's a it's. It's.

9:34

Not as as rapid if it was his rabbit.

9:36

I think you get more concerned about you know

9:39

both. Now you can do some for the entire

9:41

league. And eight, I

9:43

think there's been times where he seems like. A

9:45

look as listen to someone talk to the day

9:48

about. It. Other the Boston College team

9:50

that was caught up in all of this.

9:53

And it was. There was ties to the mob. And.

9:55

The hard thing there said about it was

9:57

the or even with the people wanted system.

10:00

They couldn't. Because. They were

10:02

always you misread by the fact that will watch your house.

10:04

You. So. If you wanna

10:06

start at five or the leak out there that that

10:08

you're doing this. And so the

10:10

the players are kind of caught in a position

10:12

where they had to keep going at that point.

10:15

They. Did made their bed deadline it. And.

10:18

So that's the heart thing about you. Don't

10:20

know who's behind it is Back in this

10:22

particular case, your site about the no. Idea

10:25

what particular first of a year old?

10:27

Know how much more widespread is my

10:29

mind wanders. When. You see stories

10:31

like this two. Shots. A

10:33

porter is the easy one. To.

10:36

Banned for life. Was.

10:38

It was abroad. They was of it

10:40

was a big game eat. Like a

10:42

suit person. what did the league? if I want

10:45

to the faces of I'll delete just a full

10:47

blown degenerate you are Steph Curry or whoever I

10:49

think about that like what do you say. right?

10:52

It is attached of our job right now

10:54

are more likely. To

10:58

put up with you as you want to sag. Why

11:00

is your as I started to take out a guy.

11:02

And make him an example of have. Where.

11:05

If you could have a bigger dame player.

11:08

Who. Book because it's sort of like this. I.

11:10

Made it an exit that's a drag. Oh Totti a

11:12

Do this. But. Jabbering. Example

11:15

though that's one of the conspiracy theories

11:17

of why was like okay. Like.

11:19

Really, you know dollars of this. Now we come

11:21

to find out at all The facts are there.

11:24

That. James this guy had access to

11:27

as a coulson. He was fraudulent used

11:29

or this illegally So. Daisies,

11:31

Wiped clean of it I but what if any

11:33

and it really was a tiny been a part

11:35

of it may I may not. the i mean

11:37

just just the same level For what is worse

11:39

you're right. What is it? What does he really

11:41

of What is he got over only but rather

11:44

how big he is. that time he became more

11:46

really double. you know the guy a superstar. He's

11:48

got a general onto the rest of us a

11:50

degenerate gambler good for you and my by jersey

11:52

but rather to get my point with us Every

11:54

I base for be a like you get a

11:56

problem on your hands, you have one of the

11:58

faces of your league. Who's. Caught

12:00

up with this. and if they're caught up in this.

12:03

There's. Gotta be a lot of other people caught

12:05

up with it. I mean, if you were going

12:07

to have an impact gambling wise on a game

12:09

that you are involved in, Prob. Better

12:12

the way to go to where he I,

12:14

you know our so what is it dad

12:16

The number of rebounds I haven't a game,

12:18

it's over two and a half. All of

12:20

a sudden you get really aggressive and and

12:22

the only play in a couple of minutes

12:24

intensely miss a shot you like. You can

12:26

have a direct impact on that, but most

12:28

places don't offer a significant amount of money

12:30

that you can win on a prop bed

12:32

later caf. So like if you should say

12:34

when people go all you know the security

12:36

guy could see the color at a Gator

12:38

radar you pre games. of course he's going

12:40

to bet on the Superbowl. Mall Yeah, buddy can

12:42

probably only bet like five hundred bucks or whatever

12:44

it is said silicates can impact them. They're going

12:46

to make all that money elsewhere. I

12:49

just wonder. How. Deep does

12:51

this go are are a players that are

12:53

getting more playing time to Brady's point you

12:55

know maybe all of a sudden they come

12:57

up with a with a hamstring issue and

12:59

again all of us and they got a

13:01

hammy as you all of a sudden something

13:03

else comes on like this guy had an

13:05

eye as you all at the he had

13:07

he went from gonna play in a game

13:09

to he's got cataracts all of a sudden

13:11

and can no longer be involved in it.

13:13

And then you find out all the betting

13:15

irregularities like draft kings. sense out this daily

13:17

report because the where the so as as

13:19

I acted as. Taylor against a Tree. Go

13:21

back and look at the date mentioned in

13:23

our these two dates. One of the my

13:26

dog is January twenty six theaters March I

13:28

forget there's another date. Go back and look

13:30

at that. You. Can see right

13:32

at the top. Jaunty Porter as the

13:34

number one prop bet placed through draft

13:36

kings at day. Know what? I it's

13:39

It's awesome. It's society that somebody got

13:41

this much of a problem ah n

13:43

feet all day I got could have

13:45

to play anymore. and also on the

13:48

subject of if you guys have ever

13:50

known anybody who's at addiction issues. Or.

13:54

edits at a certain point you can only do

13:56

so much like they've gotta be are nice and

13:58

you can save on yeah like that save

14:00

them. Some people just can't save.

14:02

There's a legendary story about Norm

14:04

McDonald, the comedian, like one of

14:07

the great comedians of all time.

14:09

Apparently, he was a full-blown degenerate

14:11

gambler and lost everything twice on

14:14

gambling. Like, bet his entire, everything he

14:16

had to him, everything to his name,

14:18

to his family's name, and lost it

14:21

twice. At a certain point,

14:23

like, hey, what are

14:25

you gonna do? Shut down

14:27

casinos everywhere? Is it true?

14:29

Yeah, I heard it's not. Really?

14:33

Yeah. Bruno Mars, the gambler? I mean, I've seen

14:35

it, but I heard it wasn't true. I'm not

14:37

sure if it's true. Is it true? Yeah,

14:40

I'm not saying it's true or not from folks

14:42

I know out there. They're like, yeah, he

14:45

likes to gamble. Bruno Mars. I'm

14:47

Google-searching Bruno Mars. He had, like,

14:50

degenerate gambling. Shocked up a really,

14:52

really big bill at

14:54

a certain hotel off his

14:56

gambling. So, I'm looking it up right

14:58

now. Bruno Mars, degenerate, flunky gambler. Dang.

15:00

I'm seeing what comes up here. You

15:02

know, Jonas just, like, misery loves company.

15:04

So, Jonas is trying to bring everyone

15:06

down with him. That's right. So,

15:09

that could be with live bet Jesus, because he's a

15:11

degenerate gambler. I was gonna more

15:13

point to this whole situation where,

15:16

you know, if you were a star of a league, there's

15:18

a thought that you wouldn't risk it, right?

15:21

Like, if you're John T. Porter, if you're

15:23

in the league, he would think that you

15:25

wouldn't risk it. You would think so, but

15:27

I think the thought for someone who's in

15:30

the league that's maybe on the

15:32

fringe is that you would

15:34

do it because you would be getting compensated

15:36

in addition or even more

15:38

so. For John T. Porter, you

15:41

know, we only know what he made betting, which

15:43

is about $22,000 off it, right? Yeah. You don't

15:47

know if he was getting a little more than that somewhere

15:50

else, right, for what he was providing. A

15:52

little kickback. Because it doesn't sound, it doesn't

15:54

seem like it makes sense. It doesn't make

15:56

any sense, if that's the case. So, he

15:58

had to be getting much more. off the

16:00

court and that's where if you can impact

16:02

and influence games and you

16:04

can manipulate lines to have a guaranteed

16:08

outcome for a better, that's worth a lot.

16:11

So my point is, if someone in his position, he

16:13

might be saying, well, I'm not making that much playing.

16:16

If I can do this and no one finds out

16:18

about it, then I can make a

16:21

much better living, hopefully for my

16:23

entire career, given kind of my role, right?

16:26

And compare that to a star, you're

16:29

making 30, 40, 50 million. Now,

16:32

one, you're really impacting a game, so

16:35

you really have the influence to do things to

16:37

manipulate the outcome. You're

16:39

already, you know, people would say, well, it's not worth the

16:41

risk because you're already making 30, 40, 50 million. Yeah,

16:45

but to LaVar's point, you might have a problem. Maybe

16:48

you just like gambling, maybe you like betting. That's

16:52

where I think, you know, my mind wanders is,

16:54

you know, John's a porter can't be the only

16:56

one. And

16:58

you know, he's probably not the highest

17:00

profile guy. But if you're a league

17:02

and you find this out, there's no way you

17:04

can let that go public. Integrity

17:07

of your game is everything. All

17:09

these sponsorships from every gambling sports book is

17:12

all based around the idea that everything's

17:15

on the up and up. It's all fair. I

17:17

mean, I would like to think that every

17:20

bet you place out there is

17:22

fair. Everything's on, you know, it's as it

17:24

should be from the officials to the players

17:26

to the coaching, all of it. Now,

17:29

it doesn't explain why Jonas loses so much.

17:32

But come on. It'd be a bit how about the add

17:34

a little appreciation for the fact that I keep getting up

17:37

off the stool and going back for more? All

17:39

right. Oh, you think you can finish me in this fight?

17:41

No chance. I'll be back for more. And I'll

17:43

be back this weekend. With $15. You're

17:45

going to get from the Fight Club? Yeah. You

17:48

just keep getting your butt kicked. Tyler Durt and Tyler Durt. Just

17:50

keep getting up. Go make

17:52

some soap at night. And then I'll show you. I'm

17:56

going to put down this game with $5. His

18:00

name was Tyler Dier. We're gonna start saying that

18:02

about Jonas. His name was Jonas

18:04

Knox. Uh, it's just, um, but hey, you know

18:06

what? With all the money the gambling brings into

18:09

these leagues, it's not going anywhere. It's not like

18:11

they're just going to turn off the faucet and

18:13

say, that's it. You know, we can't, we can't

18:15

control the leak anymore. It's here. And they're just

18:17

going to have to figure out a way to

18:19

put all this in. I

18:21

mean, we figured out how to use it to our

18:24

advantage. You need to use it to your, this is

18:26

an example for every sports league, by the

18:29

way. Like the NBA is

18:31

not only acting on their own behalf, but

18:33

for the NFL, for major league baseball, for

18:35

hockey, I mean, even at major

18:37

league baseball, how they, how they handled Otani, it

18:40

is as I was, I'm still

18:42

surprised that he wasn't

18:45

put on an exempt list. Oh,

18:47

only because it's like, well, if he

18:49

was gambling, right? Like, let's

18:52

just say before the investigation was done on

18:54

Otani and they find that the

18:56

interpreter was indeed doing all this behind his

18:58

back. But let's just say before they know

19:00

that definitively know that he's

19:02

still playing games. He

19:05

could, he could still be like to

19:07

some degree, if he was involved in

19:09

something manipulating games of major league baseball, let it go

19:11

on. Now again, he was

19:14

vindicated. Isn't it?

19:16

He did nothing wrong from what they found

19:18

and that's fine, but that's the one

19:20

concern I have too, it is even

19:22

how major league baseball handled it. I think there's

19:25

costs for criticism. That

19:28

may be more of a process just in case. I

19:30

mean, I don't know. I know

19:32

this is not, I know this is not going to be

19:34

the right thing to say, but I

19:36

do feel like there's a clear difference between a guy

19:39

gambling on his own team and a guy

19:41

betting the under on himself in games. Like

19:44

Jontay Porter, I know they're all the same.

19:46

You can't gamble on stuff, but Jontay Porter

19:48

betting the under on himself in games

19:50

and tipping people off about that when, when

19:53

he can directly impact that and call himself

19:55

out of games feels a lot worse than

19:57

somebody else. Did I see? See

20:00

where he's at for the Raptors to lose and they won?

20:04

I think I saw that on one day.

20:06

There was also something where somebody found there

20:08

was an under a number of three points

20:11

three-pointers made in a game and one of the

20:13

shots he took Banked in and he

20:15

looked pissed that he made it Kind

20:19

of full-blown chunky Welcome

20:22

to the club though, you know, it's good to have

20:24

you here and pull up a school There's a slot

20:26

machine right over there for you. You

20:29

make light of this but like his life

20:31

is ruined to a degree What

20:33

do you mean? He'd go to vegas right now gamble all he wants

20:36

Ruined please vegas 24-7. He's got opportunities there

20:40

Go to some of those poker tournaments

20:42

coop goes do he's gonna be fine. That's

20:44

true He's gonna be fine. He is what

20:46

does coop think about this coop your thoughts

20:48

on uh gambling in the nba? Uh

20:51

is you are a guy who who plays in

20:53

the world series of poker and actually wins money

20:55

every single year? Well, that's

20:57

not true. Uh, but uh, I

21:00

don't ban him I

21:02

don't want to see him again. Okay. What if he found

21:04

out he was betting on games, but not the under

21:06

on himself still ban him for life

21:09

Well, look because it's the nba and there's already

21:12

so many like I I feel like they're the

21:14

sport that gets the most This

21:16

sport is rigged also the conversation michael jordan

21:18

playing baseball for two years There's still people

21:20

that believe he would you know, he was

21:22

getting popped for gambling because he was yeah,

21:24

okay Because he was I mean

21:27

michael jordan was a gambler boy I

21:31

mean he's a gambler. Yeah So

21:33

is barkley barkley barkley. So

21:35

so is oakley. Yeah,

21:38

so is a lot of them It's

21:40

just interesting man. I don't I don't I'm with you

21:42

on it. I know where the name Yeah,

21:45

go it go it. No, no, no, go finish it Go

21:48

it go it. No, no, no go finish it finish.

21:50

I was just gonna say the higher up the name

21:52

is You're gonna figure

21:54

out ways to I mean you gotta

21:56

you can't just ban michael jordan for

21:59

life over games Yeah, because there was a lot

22:01

of... Do you feel like he... I

22:03

mean, even connected to... I mean, God

22:05

bless. Even connected to his dead. Listen,

22:08

is that why he took that year off? Well,

22:10

that's the speculation. Yeah, there you go. Because it

22:12

is kind of... I put it out there. It

22:14

is kind of... If you just...

22:16

Like, if you're on its surface, you just say, so

22:19

wait a second. The greatest player

22:21

of all time in his prime walked

22:24

away for two years to go play baseball? What?

22:27

Been paid for it. Yeah. Yeah,

22:29

like it just doesn't... Like, there's... A-14, but all

22:31

that stuff. Just not on his surface. I didn't

22:33

know. I feel like the facts are on

22:36

his father's death were what was kind of more mysterious. I

22:38

was like, wait a second. He

22:40

had nothing on this? And this is how

22:42

it all went down? Yeah. That was what

22:44

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22:46

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22:49

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future Hall of Famer in the NFL.

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from now. So yesterday, this

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27:22

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27:25

got wickershamed. Seth

27:27

Wickersham along with Don VanNatta

27:30

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Bill Belichick,

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his interview process with the Atlanta

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27:40

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27:42

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27:44

getting a job could look like moving forward.

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27:48

of similar to what we've heard about it.

27:51

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27:53

Atlanta that if he could work with other people

27:55

there, did he want full control? Did he want,

27:57

you know, just the number of things that we've

27:59

heard. We've heard throughout the past several

28:01

weeks and past several months as far as why

28:03

Belichick was passed up for the gig in Atlanta.

28:06

Part that I thought was interesting is

28:08

how apparently Robert Kraft

28:10

might have had a little bit more

28:12

to do with this than some people

28:14

may have realized. He pushed back on

28:17

some of that saying, oh, he gave

28:19

nothing but glowing responses to Arthur Blank

28:21

about Belichick, but there's some people who

28:23

feel different. One of those people is

28:25

Belichick. Belichick feels that

28:27

Robert Kraft had a lot to

28:29

do with him not getting the

28:31

job and maybe not getting opportunities

28:34

elsewhere, so much so that

28:36

Belichick feels like that if it

28:38

doesn't work out for

28:41

him elsewhere and Tom leaves in

28:43

that success and Bill Belichick has

28:45

success elsewhere, well, then who's the

28:47

guy you blame for why things

28:49

went awry in New England and

28:51

maybe that's why Robert Kraft was

28:53

hesitant to go ahead and give

28:56

his stamp of approval on Belichick

28:58

going anywhere else, that

29:00

along with the fact that there's some speculation

29:03

maybe Belichick would be interested in the Cowboys

29:05

gig because Jerry Jones and Kraft have a

29:07

rivalry and he could stick it to Robert

29:09

Kraft there. The more you find out

29:12

about this, the more it feels like not

29:14

a great off season, not a great look for Robert Kraft

29:16

who's been involved in a lot of this stuff. I

29:20

think this only presents the opportunity too for Bill

29:22

Belichick to look like the better guy when it's

29:24

all said and done. He's

29:27

going to be more visible. If

29:30

you think about Bill Belichick and

29:32

his legacy, he's going

29:34

to be the one that can go on TV, talk ball

29:37

all day, can go to the University

29:39

of Washington where his son's at, to

29:41

go to any other team of

29:43

coaches that are like, hey, we want to bring Bill in, let's let

29:45

him consult him, just come by and talk to us, tell us what

29:47

he sees for a day or two, right?

29:49

Or not. Maybe he's got some friends he

29:53

wants to go see. The

29:55

second he gets on TV, the second he gets around these teams

29:57

and people talk to him, they're going to be like, I mean,

29:59

think about Matt Ruhl. When

30:01

he went to Nebraska, he's like, dude, you got a wealth of

30:03

knowledge. You

30:05

hear all that and you go,

30:07

okay, there's a reason why they went to

30:10

nine Super Bowls. There's a reason why they

30:12

won six Super Bowls. Yeah,

30:14

Tom Brady was a piece of it. So

30:16

were many of the great players, the Hall of Fame players

30:18

they had on that team. And

30:22

at the end, you know who people are not going to think about?

30:25

Robert Kraft. Because

30:27

Robert Kraft isn't going to be out there doing

30:29

this. And he doesn't have the football knowledge that

30:31

Bill Belichick does. And

30:34

if this truly indeed happened, where

30:36

he behind the scenes was

30:39

actively going out of his way to tell

30:41

people that you can't trust them and bad

30:44

mouth them, that only says

30:46

more about Robert Kraft. And then by the

30:48

way, if Arthur Blank, if this is true,

30:51

believed Robert Kraft, then

30:54

he got duped. Because

30:57

Robert Kraft's intention, once Bill Belichick left

30:59

New England, or once they had a

31:01

falling out and he couldn't trust, quote

31:03

unquote, trust him anymore, Robert

31:06

Kraft was probably concerned about Bill

31:09

Belichick doing what

31:11

Tom Brady did to Bill Belichick. Because

31:14

what was the conversation when Tom Brady left

31:16

New England? Well, it was Brady

31:18

where it was a Belichick. He goes to Tampa first

31:20

year, wins the Super Bowl. There's people out there who's

31:22

like, oh, it's Tom Brady the whole time. Robert

31:24

Kraft may think that. But

31:27

the reality is you can't take away what

31:29

Bill Belichick was able to accomplish. Yes,

31:32

having Tom Brady helps, and all the other great

31:34

players that helped, but Bill

31:36

Belichick those staffs, it was all part of

31:38

it. You're all part of it. And

31:42

the problem is when Bill

31:44

Belichick, and has this falling out

31:46

with Robert Kraft, Robert

31:49

Kraft's intention is, I don't want that to happen to

31:51

me. Imagine Bill Belichick

31:53

now being the head coach of

31:55

the Atlanta Falcons, and Bill Belichick

31:58

getting Kirk Cousins, and having the right to

32:00

win. roster that they have. If there's any

32:02

easier path to get to a Super

32:04

Bowl between

32:06

the two conferences, it's

32:08

the NFC South. Go back

32:10

to last season. Who

32:13

was the overwhelming favorite to win their

32:15

division before the season started? Saints. And

32:19

now there's more competition, right? Because with this

32:21

Atlanta team, yes, you have talent and you

32:23

have Kirk Cousins now, but Saints are still

32:25

a good team. You think the

32:27

Panthers are going to be better. But

32:32

the point is the NFC in general, the

32:35

conference in general is an easier path.

32:38

Outside of Philly, San

32:40

Francisco, maybe we'd say the LA Rams.

32:42

I don't know, Dallas is a Dallas. I mean, outside

32:45

of it, you don't have the quarterbacks in

32:47

the NFC you have to go through in the playoffs

32:50

and you don't have the teams either outside

32:53

of maybe two or three that

32:56

we definitively know right now will be in contention for

32:58

it, right? And sorry to

33:00

Detroit Lions fans. I should have mentioned them too, right?

33:02

But the truth is we'll see what they do this

33:04

year too if they can follow it up. But

33:07

that's the crazy thing to me is Arthur

33:10

Blank got tricked

33:12

by Robert Kraft because he was

33:14

probably so concerned about watching Bill Belichick

33:16

go elsewhere and have success

33:19

and win a Super Bowl because

33:22

that makes him look bad in the end

33:24

when it's all said and done. I

33:29

don't buy that. I don't think

33:31

that Robert Kraft would

33:34

invest that much into Bill

33:36

Belichick not having success beyond

33:39

what he literally created a documentary that

33:41

he produced and added it to

33:44

bad mouth. Well, I get that. That's not an

33:46

opinion. That's just factual. I just

33:48

don't get that he wouldn't. I

33:50

mean, he goes somewhere else. I think this is

33:53

more of an indictment on if an

33:55

organization didn't want to hire him

33:57

based off of the recommendation of

34:01

of the franchise that he left. I

34:05

don't think that anyone

34:07

will ever forget Robert Kraft. That

34:09

is a Boston, a

34:12

New England Patriots fan. That

34:14

would be like saying you're gonna forget

34:16

about Art Rooney in Pittsburgh.

34:18

People, one of the things that is

34:20

synonymous with the Steelers organization. Well, no one's gonna forget

34:23

him. I'm not saying that. I'm not debating you. I

34:25

let you make your point. Can I make my point?

34:27

I let you go. I mean, I didn't jump in

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who you give credit to and all of it, it's

34:38

the entirety of it all. But in the end, you

34:41

think about the quarterback and the head coach. That's

34:44

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34:47

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35:45

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35:47

right. Thank you, Jonas. So we started the NBA. We had

35:49

a pair of playing games in the East, the seven, eight

35:51

match ups off the 76ers, hold off the heat

35:53

for a 105, 104 win. Philadelphia

35:56

is down 12 with a half. They're able to come back.

35:58

Thanks in part to star Joel and beats. 23

36:00

points and 15 rebounds. For Miami, their start, Jimmy

36:02

Buggler, had 19 points suffered in the injury in

36:04

the first half. He continued to play, but was

36:06

affected by the injury the rest of the game,

36:08

and his status going forward is unknown. Philadelphia with

36:10

the win earns the seventh seed in the East,

36:13

they'll face the number two seed, the New York

36:15

Knicks in the first round of the playoffs.

36:17

The 9-10 matchup had the Bulls rolling over the Hawks, 1-31

36:19

to 1-16. Chicago's

36:21

Kobe White had a career high 42 points in the

36:24

win. Atlanta is eliminated. Chicago will

36:26

now face Miami. Winner gets the eighth seed in

36:28

the East, and they'll face the number one seed,

36:30

the Boston Celtics in the first round. News

36:32

from the NBA, Pelican star Zion Williamson will

36:35

miss the team's playing game on Friday against

36:37

Sacramento due to a hamstring injury. If New

36:39

Orleans wins and advances, he will miss the

36:41

start of the next series against Oklahoma City

36:44

as well. They're saying he'll be reevaluated in

36:46

two weeks. Now back to LaVar Arrington, Brady

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Quinn, and Jonas Knox, natyarac.com, Fox Sports Radio

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37:09

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37:13

wonder how many complete games were there last year

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they start using it? Is it only in blowouts where

37:20

baseball teams were throwing outfielders and fielders to finish out

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37:26

you get out there. I don't care about your

37:28

ERA. I obviously, Nick Swisher is a great dude.

37:31

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37:33

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37:36

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37:38

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In case you missed this. The

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right, guys. In case you missed it. Hey,

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Brady. Morning. Morning, Brady. Morning, Le Barre, guys. In

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case you missed this. Take

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four. In the newest new

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podcast with the Kelsey Brothers, Jason Kelsey was

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for his Super Bowl ring. Well,

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take a listen to what happens next. I

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legitimately lost my Super Bowl ring in this

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event. They could not find it. We have

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still yet to find it. All of this

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stuff has been thrown away. So I think

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we can safely assume that my Super Bowl

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ring is now in a landfill someplace in

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the Cincinnati tri-state area. I didn't think that

43:16

would happen. We've already put the insurance claim

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in, which I think the insurance company might

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have some things to say about whether they're

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going to cover that. Wouldn't

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he have noticed like a

43:27

big ring just gone off his hand

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after swimming through some, by the way,

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awful chili. He voluntarily tied

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it to a sock. They were

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trying to find it. So like

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a double dare. Yeah, that's a bad idea.

43:40

Smart move. Yeah, the insurance company

43:42

is going to be like, oh yeah, that's

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on you, buddy. All right. So question for

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you guys. If they replace the ring, like

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it looks just like the one that

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you got for winning it, is it still the

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same to you or in your head? Are you

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thinking that was the one I was presented? Like

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this is, you know, is

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not the real thing. I think so.

44:02

LaVar you got a big fat Hall of

44:04

Fame ring. If you lost it

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in a... It's not the original. It's

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a replacement. I mean you can acknowledge it

44:11

as, I mean it's still your, your, the

44:14

accomplishment is the accomplishment. Right. But

44:16

it's not the original. It's

44:18

not the original. God if I lost

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my thumb ring I'd jump off a

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freeway overpass. Would you think it'd be worse if

44:25

you lost to LaVar in that way? Like a big

44:27

bass in the chili? I wouldn't do that with

44:29

my ring. Do you have

44:32

a second one just in case you lost the first

44:34

one? No. I don't. In

44:36

fact I thought I lost it the other day. Some

44:39

way, somehow. I think one of

44:41

my kids, they

44:43

put it back in the jewelry box.

44:45

I left it on in a place

44:47

I usually put my jewelry when I'm

44:49

fitting down. And yeah,

44:52

I stay calm but on the inside

44:55

I felt a certain type of way.

44:57

What did you feel? I

45:00

mean I felt emotions

45:02

for certain. I

45:04

felt emotions I didn't want to feel. Oh man.

45:07

It's not like I've gotten that many wins in my

45:09

life. You know what I mean? So I'm gonna take

45:11

the wins I can get and want to hold on

45:13

to them and not let them go. You know,

45:16

so there is that. You guys ever lost your wedding

45:18

ring? I don't

45:20

know where my... I've lost

45:22

two down a sink. It's

45:25

somewhere but... I just it

45:27

was like one of those like on Amazon

45:29

they had this deal like a pack of

45:31

six like silicone rings for like seven dollars

45:33

or seven eighty nine or something like that

45:35

and so they're not made all that great

45:38

but you got like different colors so like you know

45:40

if I'm rolling with magenta I've got a magenta ring

45:42

you know I can just kind of mix and match

45:44

a little bit you know I'm all about different colors

45:47

and variation. You're not you only wear black when I

45:49

see you. Yeah whatever so but the point is a

45:51

lot of darker colors included and I lost two of

45:53

them down this sink because I was washing my

45:55

hands and the soap just you know a

45:58

little wear and tear and a wedding. They

46:00

went. My wife was like, oh god, what are you going

46:02

to do? I was like, what do you mean? Go to Amazon and buy another one. Go

46:04

back from the pack. They're $7. Easy.

46:07

What else are you guys? Well,

46:09

guys, in case you missed this, Caitlin Clark

46:11

is finalizing an eight-figure endorsement deal with the

46:14

Swoosh. She's going to get her own signature

46:16

shoe with Nike. An

46:18

eight-figure deal. There you go. For all

46:20

the folks who thought she wasn't going to make as much

46:22

in the pros. I never really understood that because all her,

46:24

like, NIL money was not just

46:26

donor-based or alumni. There was,

46:29

I mean, a ton of different, you

46:31

know, partners she had in the corporate world, so good

46:33

for her. I hope, by the way, I hope there's

46:35

a lot more that's spread around, though. Are

46:39

you guys going to buy your daughters some Caitlin Clark's?

46:42

If they look good. I

46:46

just, if they want them, yeah,

46:49

I was just like, I don't know. If like, God walks by

46:51

and likes to shoe, sure. What

46:53

else are you going to do? Guys, in

46:55

case you missed this, a 39-year-old Augusta

46:58

National employee is being charged with stealing

47:00

over, is stealing millions of dollars worth

47:02

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47:04

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47:06

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did it to sell it on the secondary market.

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someone who had marked up a shirt to like $700. No.

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47:26

mean, it is a classic logo, though. The

47:28

one logo, like you literally can't even replicate the

47:30

one that just came out with like their

47:33

Augusta National Club on it. Damn.

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