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Hope all of you are having a fantastic

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Wednesday. We got a lot to dive into.

1:19

Much to get to last

1:21

night. What an unbelievable

1:24

mess of a presidential

1:26

debate. Yesterday afternoon

1:29

or yesterday morning, I guess it was. News

1:31

comes out about COVID related issues

1:34

in my hometown of Nashville with my

1:36

hometown team of the Tennessee Titans.

1:38

We'll talk about both of those issues as

1:40

we roll through UH.

1:43

In particular, the Titans three

1:46

different players have tested positive

1:48

for COVID, which is the biggest outbreak the

1:50

NFL has had since really they

1:52

returned to training camp and

1:55

got rolling and immediately

1:57

there was a lot of panic. But

2:00

will continue to track this story and

2:02

see if there are going to

2:04

be additional positive tests.

2:07

If there are not, then

2:09

it seems like the story is going to be

2:11

the Tennessee Titans are going to play

2:14

eventually. Yesterday afternoon, the Titans

2:16

announced three different players

2:19

that it tested positive. They were defensive

2:22

lineman de Kwon Jones, long

2:25

snapper Bo Brinkley, and

2:27

a tight end on the practice squad

2:30

named Tommy Hudson. They are

2:32

the three guys that have tested positive so

2:34

far on the team. If

2:36

it is limited to those three, then

2:39

it's going to be an intriguing storyline

2:42

to see how this plays out. Because the Titans

2:44

are not allowed to return to their

2:46

facility until Saturday,

2:49

which basically means if the Titans played

2:51

on Sunday that they would have maybe

2:53

a walk through on Saturday,

2:56

maybe a little bit of a walk through on Sunday,

2:59

and all of their other game prep for

3:02

the undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers would

3:04

have to occur via remote

3:06

camera work from everybody's

3:09

homes. That seems pretty difficult

3:11

to prepare for a team like the Steelers

3:14

via zoom. This also has impacted

3:16

in some way the Minnesota Vikings,

3:18

since there was a fear that maybe there have been an exposure

3:21

that occurred during the course of the game, but

3:23

so far no Vikings have tested positive

3:26

and it seems like they will be able

3:28

to return to some sense of normalcy. The

3:30

The goal of the NFL appears

3:33

to be to play this game as as

3:35

scheduled, either on Sunday

3:37

or if they have to move it back to Monday,

3:40

So that is the latest on Frankly,

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what you would have anticipated of an

3:45

outbreak that would have occurred before. Now

3:47

the NFL will have to figure out

3:50

exactly how this will

3:52

be dealt with. The Other possibility

3:55

is adjusting by weeks and

3:57

changing some of the schedule, and

3:59

I'll allowing the Titans to play

4:02

later on Week seven against

4:05

the Pittsburgh Steelers. That would be

4:07

allowed to to say, this is the

4:10

detail that I saw. Uh,

4:12

they could easily set it up

4:14

and play in Week seven. If

4:17

the NFL moved the Steelers Week

4:19

seven game against the Ravens into Week

4:21

eight, when both teams have buys,

4:24

that would be a pretty easy fit

4:26

if they're not allowed to play this

4:29

week. So that is what is going

4:31

on in the universe of

4:34

the NFL as we come closer

4:36

to the NFL Week four

4:38

beginning tomorrow with not

4:41

a great NFL game

4:43

between two defeated

4:45

teams. They say defeated teams because neither team

4:47

has actually been able to win, and

4:50

we get ready for NFL Week

4:52

four. We also had, as you just heard from Eddie Garcia,

4:54

major League Baseball underway, one

4:56

of the big decisions I've got to day. Uh,

4:59

and I'm curious what you guys on the show think.

5:01

I should do. I have to decide

5:03

whether or not to go pick

5:06

up my my fourth grader and

5:08

get him out of school early so

5:10

we can watch the Braves because their game

5:12

is taking place at noon to eastern. Don't

5:15

even know that I'm considering it, but

5:18

but I'm thinking about that. By the way, Broncos Jets

5:21

is the Thursday night game, which feels

5:23

like almost the worst possible game. Do

5:25

you guys think I'll go around the horn? Should I

5:27

surprise him later today at

5:30

like you know, eleven thirty eastern,

5:32

show up, pick him up from school without him

5:34

knowing it, so he can see my

5:36

my ten year old, my fourth grader is

5:38

a huge Braves fan, and that

5:40

game will be taking place while he's at school.

5:43

What do you think? What do you think? Danny g Hell?

5:45

Yeah. One of my best memories from

5:47

being a kid was when my mom picked me up from

5:49

school to go to a Lakers parade when I was

5:51

a little kid. Oh yeah, for a championship

5:53

parade. You didn't know what was happening, and she just

5:55

showed up effectively. Yeah, I mean, you

5:58

know, obviously I watched the games with my

6:00

family, but I didn't know she was gonna come

6:02

pull me out of school to go be a part of the parade.

6:05

Yeah, that is one of the best things

6:07

I think you can do as a parent is surprise

6:09

your kid and pick him up from school. Yeah, what

6:11

about you, dub Is that? Was that a place I should

6:13

make Dub is resetting his equipment?

6:16

We'll go to him last. That's good to know that everything

6:18

has started to uh, that everything started to

6:20

break. What about you, Eddie? Was a

6:22

good move to pull him out? Yeah,

6:24

I mean I'm not a parent, but as a kid,

6:26

I would have that would have been an awesome memory if my mom

6:29

or dad would have done that. So I absolutely endorse that.

6:31

Yeah, I'm thinking about doing it, maybe picking him

6:33

up and having some some food and uh

6:35

and and just watching the game at home around lunchtime.

6:38

And you're all in on that idea,

6:40

heck yeah, man, Yeah, take him out or he will never

6:42

forget it, especially you know, getting out early

6:45

from school to watch his favorite baseball

6:47

team. Yes, definitely do it. Must

6:49

Yeah, so I think that's gonna be the plan, even

6:51

if mom is not as big of a

6:54

fan of that idea as dad is.

6:56

So so we'll see how that shakes out,

6:58

all right. The other obviously, big news

7:00

that I think is is kind of cascading

7:03

everywhere is the presidential

7:05

debate. And I was trying to think of a sporting

7:08

analogy for the presidential

7:10

debate, Like last night I watched

7:12

did I imagine a huge percentage of you

7:15

listening watched at least some of it, And

7:17

I was trying to analogize what it would

7:20

be for a sporting event,

7:22

and ultimately what I kind of

7:25

came got down with

7:27

is it's like a UFC match

7:30

between two fighters that you thought

7:32

was really good, and they

7:35

one of them just immediately wants to get

7:37

on the ground every like as

7:39

soon as the round begins. It felt

7:42

like Trump just grabbed him and dragged

7:44

him around and they just grappled on the

7:46

ground and it was almost impossible

7:48

to see what was actually going on. And

7:50

maybe the other analogy would be, if you want to go

7:53

with the backs boxing match, it

7:55

was like a boxing match where both

7:57

guys keep hitting after the bell and

8:00

the the official keeps like standing

8:02

there trying to stop them from fighting and

8:05

lecturing them and eventually just turns

8:07

to the judges and says, take points

8:09

off both scorecards. This is

8:11

this is a total mess. Do you have a sporting

8:14

analogy. Did you watch Danny g And

8:16

if so, is there a sporting analogy

8:19

that comes to mind for what the debate

8:21

looked like to you? I did watch.

8:23

I'm not sure if I have a sporting analogy, but what

8:25

it reminded me of is back when I

8:27

was helping to produce the Ben Mallor Show,

8:30

he would get into these huge arguments with

8:32

me and Coop about the Clippers

8:34

and the Lakers. He swore up and down that

8:36

the Clippers were not only going to get to the NBA

8:39

Finals before the Lakers, that they would win

8:41

a championship before the Lakers ever got

8:43

another one. And the more we argued

8:46

with him, the louder Ben would yell and he would

8:48

speak over us. Coop would always

8:50

tell him, Ben, just because you're yelling, it doesn't

8:52

make you right. That's what it kind

8:54

of reminded me of. And and

8:57

I will point out this when Trump

8:59

started talking about how he brought college

9:01

football back, do you think he was gonna mention me on the

9:03

Big ten line one thousand percent?

9:05

Because he said I brought college

9:07

football back. Ohio loves me the

9:10

Big Ten and he's like me, and

9:12

and he had to stop talking. He was one of the

9:14

times where he had to stop talking. It

9:17

felt like he got cut off right when he

9:19

was about to either maybe

9:22

think the Big ten Commissioner or you.

9:24

But I thought for sure he was gonna say me and

9:26

Clay Travis. Can you imagine Twitter's

9:29

reaction if I had gotten name dropped

9:31

during the presidential debate about the Big Ten coming

9:33

back? And people would have lost their minds because,

9:35

Uh, the girl that I was watching

9:38

it with, we were messaging

9:40

back and forth, kind of doing play by

9:42

play, she thought the same exact thing. I

9:44

was like, Oh my god, I thought he was gonna drop name

9:46

drop Clay Travis right there. And she's like, I thought

9:48

the same thing. My phone, My just

9:50

friends, My phone blew up during

9:53

that course of that discussion because

9:55

a bunch of people were texting me, Oh, I thought you were about

9:57

to get a name drop. I think it was probably the Big thing

10:00

Commissioner Kevin Warren that he was thinking that he

10:02

was going to name Yeah. He either he couldn't

10:04

think of Kevin's name right away or he just got

10:06

interrupted. Yeah. The the the whole

10:09

uh, the whole thing was just it

10:11

was just such a crazy,

10:14

ridiculous absurd spectacle

10:17

and but but that was the

10:20

that was the sports analogy. What about you, Eddie,

10:22

what sports analogy would you make there? Well,

10:24

I gotta be honest, I did I didn't want to watch a

10:26

single minute. I didn't watch. What did you watch last night?

10:29

I was watching baseball and then it was taking

10:31

care of my wife almost broke her ankle and she

10:34

tripped and fell in the house. Yeah.

10:37

Yeah, a lot of good athletes there, so

10:39

his ankle broken. I don't think so. But

10:42

yeah, it's like a charger honestly, she

10:44

she post Rechargers fans. She posted

10:46

something on Twitter and they were like, even their fans are getting

10:49

hurt. Yeah, dub what about

10:51

you? I think your technology is now working again.

10:54

I think so. One to three. Yeah you're here, Yeah,

10:56

we got you. Uh, what sports

10:58

analogy you watched the debate night? What

11:01

sports analogy if any,

11:03

did you think of during the course of the debate. I

11:06

don't know, two kids fighting, a recess or something like

11:08

that. Yeah, it's not bad. Um.

11:11

What about you, Roberto? Did you watch

11:14

at all? Did you watch baseball instead or what?

11:17

Was that a calculated decision not to watch

11:20

one minute on your party at

11:22

all? The same thing with you, Eddie, where you just like, I just have

11:24

no interest whatsoever in watching this. Yeah,

11:27

I mean it certainly isn't going to change

11:29

my mind on who I'm voting for. I don't think it's gonna change

11:31

anybody's mind at this point. But I mean I get

11:33

tuning in for the spectacle of that. I understand

11:35

that. I mean, I I puled people last

11:38

night and I said what and I'll look at the

11:40

latest, But I was like, what percentage

11:42

of my audience was watching this debate?

11:45

And the most watch debate of all

11:47

time is eighty three

11:49

million people? I think was one of the Trump

11:51

Clinton debates. And uh,

11:54

and there's some debate, Hey, well more people

11:56

watch this one. Is there more interest? How

11:58

exactly is it gonna shake out? And

12:01

let's see, Uh, did you watch

12:05

of my audience on social media? My

12:07

Twitter feed at Clay Travis said

12:09

they watched. So I mean, that's a

12:11

pretty massive percentage of

12:13

people that actually watched. So I

12:16

I'm very confident that it's

12:18

going to be the biggest audience watching

12:21

anything on television since

12:23

the Super Bowl. So beyond

12:26

the shadow of a doubt, we can kind of factor

12:28

in that that is going to end up happening. But

12:30

again, the analogy I kind of thought of was

12:32

a UFC fight, and

12:35

you know, sometimes you want to see like two fighters

12:37

really go at it and one of them

12:39

just immediately goes to the ground,

12:42

and then they're grappling and they're rolling around

12:44

and it's kind of hard to tell exactly what's going

12:46

on. And Trump wanted to get to the ground,

12:49

or if you take it outside of

12:51

of the world of sports in

12:53

particular, it was like Trump

12:55

wanted to get in the mud. You've got

12:57

two people walking and they started getting a fight,

12:59

and the goal is automatically just to be in

13:02

the mud throwing things at each other. That's

13:04

kind of what I thought of in the pig sty,

13:07

just kind of rolling around in the mud. All

13:09

right, So we have got a loaded show for you.

13:11

Let me give you a little context on where we're going. Shannon

13:14

Spake is gonna join us next then

13:16

an hour to we're gonna be joined by

13:18

John Morrosi. Major League Baseball playoffs

13:20

started last night. Today, We've

13:22

got loaded I think eight different

13:24

games going on today if I'm not missing, eight

13:27

different games going on potentially

13:29

the day after, depending on how many

13:31

teams are able. I think a lot of people are

13:33

surprised, who are big baseball fans

13:35

even it's wild to have six

13:37

team teams in the playoff, but we're now in

13:40

a best of three series, which

13:42

in Major League Baseball, if you're a fan of any

13:44

team, think about how often it happens

13:47

that your team wins or loses

13:49

two out of three games in a series. I

13:51

mean, that happens over the course of the

13:53

of the season all the time. So

13:56

you gotta win two games or you are eliminated

13:59

much at stay there by the way, speaking

14:01

of at stake, uh, did Danny

14:04

g if we heard anything at all from the Dodgers

14:06

about this ongoing drama surrounding

14:08

our cardboard cutouts? Negative?

14:11

I mean, somebody at the Let's

14:13

be honest here, at this point, somebody

14:16

at the Dodgers hates me

14:18

beyond belief. Are you in agreement that that

14:20

is the only possible solution at

14:22

this point? I

14:25

mean, right to for me to donate a thousand

14:27

dollars to get our cardboard

14:30

cutouts. Initially, the Dodgers

14:32

are so excited about the idea

14:34

of putting up cardboard cutouts of us,

14:36

and then the entire franchise

14:39

basically will refuse to respond to

14:41

any of your emails. Danny G. The only

14:44

way the Dodger Charity

14:46

Foundation can make this good is

14:48

if we all tune in for the Dodgers

14:50

brewers and we are right behind

14:53

home Plate, which there's I think a zero

14:55

percent chance of this happening. Should I

14:58

demand a refund to donate need

15:00

to some other organization. I don't think the

15:02

Codgers should get my money. We could have bought

15:04

a legacy brick at the new Vegas

15:06

Stadium. Is that the same cost? Yeah?

15:08

Yeah, And I mean at least that would be there

15:11

forever and listeners could get

15:13

a replic of it too, sent home a legacy

15:15

brick. I don't know that a legacy brick

15:18

is necessarily what I would dream of, But is

15:20

their uniform agreement. I'm gonna

15:22

go around the horn here that somebody at

15:24

the Dodgers hates me and

15:26

that we should get a refund for

15:29

for my donation to the Dodgers in exchange

15:31

for this for these cardboard cutouts. You agree

15:33

with this, Danny G. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. Even

15:36

the Dodgers director of public

15:38

Relations ignored the Clay Travis

15:40

email. I just I don't understand.

15:43

I mean, just you know, I'm not one

15:45

to bragg or draw attention to myself. But

15:48

even within the context of

15:51

there's no way that

15:53

the Dodgers can't have that

15:56

many people in media

15:59

who have bigger audiences than me

16:01

that are asking a very basic question

16:04

like this is an intentional ignoring

16:07

of us because somebody in a position

16:09

of power at the Dodgers hates

16:11

me. And I don't know. I've never personally

16:14

met, to my knowledge, anybody

16:16

that has a position of power in the Dodgers

16:18

organization, I don't think, and my to my knowledge,

16:21

I don't think I have ever met anybody.

16:23

I've been to one Dodger game in the postseason,

16:26

uh, and I had a really

16:28

good experience there. There were tons of

16:31

OutKick fans that I met when I went

16:33

to the Dodgers World Series game.

16:36

I don't member what game. You remember what game I went to. I

16:38

think it was Game three something like

16:40

that back in the World Series.

16:43

And I just it's wild

16:45

to me that they won't even respond to us, dub

16:47

is there any doubt in your mind that somebody hates

16:49

me? Should we get a refund here? I

16:51

hate to take the money out of the kid's pockets

16:54

here, but I'll just donate it somewhere else. Whether

16:56

they actually respect I mean, I spent a thousand

16:59

dollars with them. I'll just give that

17:01

thousand dollars to somebody else that actually

17:03

respects the fact that I exist

17:05

and that our show exists. Well, there's no doubt. And

17:07

I think if you had done this with let's say the

17:09

Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta it's a great example.

17:12

The Atlanta Braves. I reached

17:14

out for people who don't know the Atlanta

17:16

Braves. I took my fourth grader for

17:19

his birthday. You can't go into the stadium, obviously,

17:21

but I booked a hotel room. I

17:24

sent a message to the Atlanta Braves

17:26

on social media because

17:29

they have responded on Instagram

17:31

to some of my tweets, some of my Instagram

17:33

posts before. I said, Hey, I'm coming

17:35

down. My nine year old is turning

17:38

ten. We're gonna be staying at the hotel.

17:41

Uh, let me know if if

17:43

if there's anything cool that we could do,

17:46

appreciate it. You know, in the Braves are big

17:48

fans of out Kick. Somebody in the

17:50

Braves organization gets back to me almost

17:53

instantaneously, and my son

17:55

got to be on the jumbo tron saying

17:57

playball right, instantaneous

18:00

lee within twenty four hours, the Braves

18:02

make that happen. Props to the Braves.

18:04

I'm not saying that every team has people that love

18:07

OutKick. A lot of them do. Obviously,

18:09

some teams have people who hate out Kick.

18:11

That's kind of the nature of being in the opinion

18:13

business. I'm not gonna, you know, cast

18:16

dis versions on anybody. They're entitled to their right

18:18

of opinion, just like everybody on this show is.

18:21

But to not even respond to us

18:23

over the course of basically it's

18:26

been like a month, hasn't it, Danny g at least,

18:29

and this has been such a thorn in my side.

18:31

And remember when the shortened season first began,

18:34

I thought this was a great idea by you, because it

18:36

was that it was the Friday of that week live

18:39

on the areare like, you know what, I have a great idea.

18:41

Why don't we have cardboard cutouts for

18:44

Danny and Roberto their lifelong Dodgers

18:46

fans. And I said, I'll make that happen to yeah,

18:48

exactly. And then once I dove

18:50

into it and sent some emails and figured out

18:52

how we could participate, then we

18:55

got you a cutout as well, so the three of us would

18:57

be prominently featured. Nothing in the pictures

18:59

is a offensive, like there's nothing that we're

19:01

wearing or doing or saying or something

19:03

like. It's not like you said. Your five o'clock

19:06

shadow was slightly offensive in the photo.

19:08

But other than that, I'm not an attractive man, and

19:10

uh and and neither Frankly or you or Roberto,

19:13

so we all have facing it for radio that we're

19:15

not very good looking. But that was pretty much

19:17

it at first. They were excited, so

19:19

it had to have been somebody else in the Dodgers

19:21

charity organization that got

19:24

in the air of the director and shut it

19:26

down and said, basically refused to respond

19:28

to these people. It's crazy saw your photo

19:30

and was like, I hate that guy. Make

19:32

sure no cameras see his ugly face.

19:35

And I don't really even mind that. I would

19:37

just like to know who that person is and have them

19:39

on the show and have them explain why

19:41

they refused to allow cardboard

19:44

cutouts of us, like the Denver Broncos

19:47

put cardboard cutouts of the entire

19:49

South Park crew. Did you see that in their

19:51

stadium? Which I thought was pretty funny because

19:53

South Park is set in Colorado. Matt Stone

19:56

and Trey Parker, the creators of South

19:58

Park, are big Colorado you know natives.

20:01

They're huge Diverbronco fans, and

20:03

everybody thought that was funny. Like, it's not like

20:06

you putting a cardboard cut out of

20:08

someone in the stadium means that you agree

20:11

with them on every single issue

20:13

under the sun. Right, it's a charitable event,

20:15

so dub I cut you off. But your position

20:17

in general is somebody at the Dodgers

20:19

hates me absolutely, zero

20:22

doubt. What about you, Eddie? Yeah,

20:24

I get this is for charity, but it was for charity

20:26

and exchange for something being done for

20:28

you, that is that has not been done. So

20:31

I absolutely think you're within your

20:33

right to ask for your money back and put

20:35

it somewhere else. So I don't know why

20:37

they wouldn't have done this. I don't have any explanation

20:40

why they wouldn't respond except for what

20:43

you said. Somebody's got it out for you. Somebody doesn't

20:45

like you, and so they don't want to do this. Don't you think

20:48

that that person, if they had any

20:50

actual balls, should also have

20:52

to identify themselves and be like,

20:55

hey, this is why we made the decision instead

20:57

of going totally silent. I

20:59

don't I don't presume that everybody has

21:01

to like me. My mom thinks it's crazy because she thinks

21:03

I'm the greatest person on the planet. My wife

21:05

probably agrees with the Dodgers, kind of hates me part

21:07

of the time too, so she's probably like a smart moved by the Dodgers.

21:10

But I think they should at least have to come

21:12

on the show and explain,

21:15

right. I would love to have that conversation, and

21:18

at minimum they should have to respond

21:20

to an email over the course of a month

21:22

and explain what's going on. Do you think it's

21:24

just somebody hates me, Roberto, Yeah. The fact

21:26

that they haven't responded with the email, it's

21:28

ridiculous, man. And the only other thing

21:30

I can think of is that day you said that there

21:32

the problem. They said we were gonna be put

21:34

in the behind the spot, a problem in a place

21:37

they said they promised, Hey, we'll

21:39

put you o. We're excited about this. I'm thinking that the

21:41

money came in and and uh, there

21:43

was no more seats available there, and then they didn't

21:45

know what to do with the donation. And but therefore

21:48

they're not Yeah,

21:50

I don't I don't buy that. I think it would be an easy

21:53

solution to be like,

21:55

hey, we couldn't get you behind home play, but we decided

21:57

to put you at this funny location in

22:00

the fact, so they've switched out different

22:02

celebrities and people from behind Home And also

22:04

we have a ton of listeners and

22:06

a lot of people who are watching Dodger games,

22:09

Like, nobody has seen our cutouts

22:11

anywhere. I don't even think they're in the stadium.

22:14

And Roberto watches every game. So I

22:16

mean, but I I legit. I mean there's foul balls, there's

22:18

home runs, Like I somebody's

22:21

trying to throw a blanket onto our shine.

22:23

I legitimately don't think we're there at all.

22:25

All Right, As we go to break, we're about to be joined

22:27

by Shannon Spake. Have a lot of interesting

22:30

conversation with her. We'll find out where she's

22:32

going on the road this week to work

22:34

in the NFL and more. This

22:36

is OutKick on Fox Sports Radio.

22:40

This is Outkicked the coverage with

22:42

Clay Travis. We

22:46

are joined now by Shannon Spake. She is

22:48

on the road with New

22:51

Orleans at Detroit I believe.

22:53

I think that will be her second trip to Detroit in

22:56

four weeks. But we began. Did

22:58

you watch any of the debate last

23:00

night? Channon Spake? I did, yes,

23:03

and I've actually I have so much to kind

23:05

of follow up with you. You've only been on air

23:08

for thirty minutes, and I feel like you've hit on so

23:10

many things. Yes, I did think he was going to

23:12

drop your name, and

23:15

I was like, oh my god, he's

23:17

gonna say Clay. I know he's gonna say Clay's name,

23:19

and uh, yeah, of course he didn't. I

23:22

have been listening to sort of your sports analogies

23:25

of what the debate felt like last night. I

23:27

don't like I could say, like you know when a when

23:29

a ball gets kicked out on the football field and everyone's

23:31

kind of scrambling for it and you don't really know who

23:34

has it and people are falling on it

23:36

and then then it scorts out and then someone else

23:38

falls on it. But honestly, I gotta

23:40

I gotta say, it was like watching the view to me right

23:42

where there was just so many voices and so

23:44

many people yelling and screaming, and you're

23:47

just like, I'm stressed out. I need I need an

23:49

aspirin or drink right now. Did you feel

23:51

like Chris Wallly, I know you have twin boys.

23:53

Did you feel like Chris Wallace was basically

23:56

moderating two kids who were yelling at each

23:58

other. Because I was watching this and I was

24:00

like, this sounds like my wife

24:02

when our twelve year old and our ten

24:04

year old started arguing over Madden, right,

24:06

and eventually she's just like, that's it, or

24:09

you know, I I rarely get, you know, kind of

24:11

involved in the squabbles because because

24:13

well, first of all, I tend to like just kind of let them

24:15

fight it out. But every now and then I'll do the

24:18

same thing as her. I'll just be like, that's it. Nobody

24:20

gets to play video games, right, Like I'm

24:22

turning it off, you know, and and

24:24

then they you know, you just have to turn it off. I kind

24:26

of felt like that was Chris Wallace's

24:28

role. I don't even know if Chris Wallace is a parent, but

24:31

it felt like from a moderator perspective,

24:33

and he was like, all right, we're just we're stopping the car. I'm

24:35

gonna pull the car over on the side of the road, you

24:37

know, like all right, we're not going to get ice

24:39

cream. Everybody just you just ruined it,

24:42

you know, like that's kind of the whole vibe.

24:44

Yeah, there was no way for him to win that, right, I thought

24:46

from what he needed to send the both of

24:48

them to time out. They just needed to be like put

24:50

in time out for five seconds because there

24:53

was a whole lot going on. And I know you mentioned

24:55

like you don't think that that someone's

24:58

opinion of who they're gonna vote for it's going to be wade

25:00

based on Definitely not based on that

25:02

one. But I will say there's been past debates

25:04

where I kind of went into it thinking I

25:06

was going to go with because listen, I'm

25:09

like sort of you know me, we chat right. I mean,

25:11

I'm not far right, are or far left. I'm kind

25:13

of make my decisions based on how I you

25:15

know what, the information that I gain at the time.

25:18

And I was really interested to see this debate.

25:20

I was really interesting interested to see

25:22

these two men get up there and have conversations

25:25

and discuss things. And I just didn't get

25:27

that last night. Yeah, I think it's a bit

25:29

of what Twitter has done to national

25:31

discourse. Like I always said, it wasn't a coincidence

25:34

in that in the entire

25:36

history of the nation, we

25:39

nominated in Trump and Hillary

25:41

the two most disliked people to ever run

25:43

for president, right. I think it's a direct result

25:46

of social media. And I think when I

25:48

go back and contemplate being a

25:50

younger voter or even a younger

25:52

person, it used to be that it

25:54

felt felt like to me the political parties

25:56

would pick somebody that they hoped

25:59

the other side would like. Right, You'd

26:01

be like, oh, I hope that you know, Democrats

26:03

are gonna pick this guy, and they hope that he's also

26:05

going to have appeal to Republicans, and Republicans

26:08

are gonna pick this guy, and they hope that he's gonna have

26:10

appeal to Democrats. And that

26:12

seems to me to be a rational decision

26:14

to make. I want to pick somebody

26:17

that I think the other side is going to

26:19

like too, because I want him or

26:21

her to win. I think what has

26:23

happened now is people want

26:25

to pick someone that is going to make

26:28

the other side the most angry,

26:30

right in many ways, And I

26:32

think that is a function of social

26:35

media. And I don't know

26:37

how you break outside of the

26:40

social media dilemma dynamic

26:42

that we've created. All Right, That's that's one take.

26:44

What do you think about the Dodgers? Do you believe

26:47

that the Dodgers are intentionally somebody

26:49

hates me at the Dodgers and they're not even allowing

26:52

our cardboard cutouts to be put in their stadium.

26:55

Listen, I will say this. I raised money to the

26:57

Iron Man Foundation. Every single year, I

26:59

will harry a Clay Travis Bob

27:01

Blake a huge head. I will

27:03

wear an OutKick shirt because you will

27:05

flip. That's what we'll do. We'll flip. Is

27:08

it wrong of me to request a reef just based

27:10

on the Dodgers not doing

27:13

anything? Is it wrong of me

27:15

to request a refund not even renwilling to

27:17

respond to our email? Charity

27:19

for charity? Right, So, if

27:21

it was like you were paying in order

27:23

to have but they did sort of sell you a

27:26

false you know, a fal

27:28

spill of goods. They said it's

27:30

not like I was doing it to

27:32

try. I mean like that. They were like, oh, yeah, we'll

27:34

put you guys there. I was like, oh, this would be great. Danny g and

27:36

Roberto or big fans were on the Dodger

27:39

station in l A. You know, so people

27:41

on a m five seventy listening to us right

27:43

now. We have a ton, a

27:46

huge number of listeners in l A on

27:48

the Dodger flagship. I was like, Okay, that's

27:50

kind of a cool idea, and then they just

27:53

ghosted us. I can't even understand.

27:55

Listen. I'm all in for sponsorship, so

27:57

iron Man Foundation, I'll send you my link.

28:00

I raised money for the iron Man Foundation

28:02

that goes to the city that we raise in. We

28:04

do all kinds of cool things

28:06

and service projects. And I'm happy to

28:09

wear an Oul kick shirt during my triathlon

28:11

next year, and I'm happy to carry at

28:13

Clay Travis head and I'll take your money

28:15

play. I appreciate

28:17

that. And you won't run from me, although you will be running,

28:19

all right. So you're going, am I right back

28:21

to Detroit? Right? You've been four times, I mean four

28:24

weeks. You're gonna be in Detroit for two of them.

28:26

This feels like a and it feels

28:28

like every Lions game is always a muscle win because

28:31

they're always behind the eight ball. Trying to get

28:33

back to five feels like that's my wife's

28:35

from Detroit. It feels like that's been a lie in story

28:37

for the last you know, sixty years. But

28:40

for Drew Brees and the Saints, this

28:43

is really a must win game

28:45

and they can't fall to one in three. Given

28:47

that the Bucks are starting to show some good momentum

28:50

in the NFC South, what do you expect

28:52

to see in this game with Detroit

28:54

hosting the Saints. Well, I expect

28:56

to see Drew Brees come out and light it up.

28:59

I think that you know when you when you lose

29:01

the way they did on the national stage or any

29:03

time you do write with the team. Listen, we all

29:05

know Drew Brees is closer to the end than he is

29:07

the beginning in terms of his career, and this

29:09

could be the year that he's got to make it happen. So

29:12

I think they're gonna come in and they're gonna come in pretty hot.

29:14

Uh you know again the the I listened

29:16

to the Detroit Lions game on the way back from Atlanta.

29:19

So I had an interesting weekend with

29:21

um with Nick Foles coming

29:24

in in that game and after halftime

29:26

and making the change for Travisky. I do you think the Travisky

29:28

time is is has come

29:30

to a close in Chicago? And

29:33

uh, so I listened to the Detroit game, and that

29:35

was a nail bier too, just back and forth. Of

29:37

course, obviously the Cardinals

29:39

are what the Cardinals are. My goodness, Kyler Murray

29:42

is just an incredible difference maker. Um,

29:44

but I just don't know if if the Lions

29:47

have enough. I've you know, I've seen them many many

29:49

times and I think I think New Orleans

29:51

is an elite team and I just don't know if the Lions

29:53

have enough. What are you hearing about Michael

29:55

Thomas is the expectation that he's going to be back

29:57

at wide receiver, which would obviously help the

30:00

the Saints offense and helped Drew Brees potentially

30:02

be able to stretch the field better. There's been a

30:04

lot of talk about how strong his arm is.

30:06

Right now, what are you hearing the latest on Michael Thomas.

30:08

Yeah, I haven't really started to dig into it too

30:11

much. Right I have NASCAR that I have to do today.

30:13

We have the schedule coming out, so I kind of managed

30:15

my week that way, right So Thursday sort of my

30:17

all in NFL day. My kids are in school. I spent

30:19

about eight hours kind of looking through stuff,

30:22

so I've kind of glanced at things here and there,

30:24

but I haven't. I haven't really dug

30:26

into it too too much. I can tell you the NASCAR

30:28

schedule is coming out this weekend or today, I should

30:30

say, And I believe that there's

30:32

there's there's rumors that they're gonna put dirt

30:34

on your Bristol motorcy Yeah. I saw that story

30:37

here. That's kind of wild, huh would

30:40

be? It would be the first dirt race in

30:42

the Cup Series, I think since nineteen

30:45

seventy. I was looking at it this morning like super

30:47

like, it's been really long week. We do it in the Truck

30:49

Series at Eldorra. But yeah, it

30:51

would be. Yes, it's going to be incredible,

30:53

And I do think there's gonna be a lot of really

30:55

strong feelings about this schedule.

30:58

The people who the the core

31:01

NASCAR fans do not want to change Bristol,

31:03

right, They want to keep Bristol exactly the way that it is.

31:05

And hearing that this is possibly going to be something

31:07

that they do in I am surprised

31:10

just looking at loosely the schedule that came

31:12

out and surprised they didn't retract the season

31:14

a little bit. But who knows, we may have some changes

31:17

when it does come out later this afternoon. We're gonna

31:19

be talking to some of the NASCAR folks on

31:21

race Hub later today, So there's there's a lot

31:23

going on. Yeah. I just saw that story

31:25

and immediately thought, that has to be so much

31:27

work to bring in all that dirt, and

31:29

I don't even know how you could ever remove

31:32

it, right, I mean they put a football field

31:34

there, Clay, right, but the football field

31:36

seems like it's almost easier to pull out because

31:38

at least that's like grass. I mean, you

31:41

know, you can lay the turf and and everything.

31:43

Yeah. I was at that game, which was amazing on the

31:45

end field to be able to see it. Uh.

31:48

And it was such a cool venue for

31:50

the University of Tennessee going

31:52

up against Virginia Tech. I mean, I

31:54

think probably was such a

31:56

massive audience that they lost track of how

31:58

many people were coming in and out. And I think I still

32:00

think that's the biggest audience to ever see

32:03

a football game in America. But it was an awesome venue

32:05

at night at Bristol. But that would

32:07

be I mean, would they leave it for the entire

32:09

season? It would be because they have the night race.

32:11

They have multiple races at Bristol, right, Yeah,

32:14

No, they would they would take it off. They would put

32:16

it on and take it off. Listen, Bruton Smith, who who

32:18

owns Bristol and who owned several race

32:20

tracks on the NASCAR schedule. He is

32:22

he this is what he does. He does stuff

32:25

that that people don't normally do. You

32:27

know, he's he's got a lot of money and he can do what

32:29

he wants with his race tracks, and he does like

32:31

you said, he put the football field out there Tennessee. And

32:33

that I met Brute for the first time in like

32:35

two thousand four. I was working for a company

32:38

and he was very good friends with the owners and we would

32:40

go like I would go to lunch with all of them, and

32:42

he was talking about, you know, putting a football field

32:44

at Bristol motor steed Way all the way back then. So

32:48

he has these ideas and he likes

32:50

to draw attention by doing really big,

32:52

crazy things. So I'm not surprised

32:54

to see this. And and yeah, they would remove the

32:56

dirt. And it does look like based on

32:58

the schedule that I saw that the last ten races,

33:01

which are the playoffs, are are kind of the

33:03

same. Are are are going to They're not going to do

33:05

too much to those last ten.

33:08

Are they changing Daytona in anyway? Um,

33:11

I would. I would think that they're probably

33:13

going to stick with the road course. I

33:15

would, Or you know, I don't know the time

33:17

on the schedule though, you think it will still be an

33:19

early you know, there's always the talk about

33:22

moving the Daytona five D until later in the season,

33:24

Or you still think it will be basically starting down

33:26

in Daytona. Yeah, no question, there's

33:28

no question the Daytona starts our season

33:31

every year. That's something they won't mess with. Shannon

33:33

Spake, we will talk to you next week. Enjoy Detroit.

33:35

I hope you get a good game up there, and we'll see what happens

33:37

with the Saints going on the road against the Lions. Thank

33:40

you. I'll expect that money and and I'll start

33:43

making my T shirt for my race. All right, We're

33:45

on it. We'll take care of that. I'll do it. That is

33:47

Shannon Spake. This

33:49

is outkicked the coverage with play Travis.

33:58

That stat is one of the most

34:00

remarkable stats out there in sports right

34:02

now that you just gave about

34:04

the twins. Repeat

34:06

that. I mean, that is unbelievable, Like if

34:09

you were just doing statistical

34:11

analysis, that would seem

34:13

to be almost impossible to have happened.

34:16

What you just said, what has happened to the Twins

34:18

seventeen consecutive postseason losses

34:21

going back how many years now? That's

34:23

a good question. I have to look into that longest

34:25

losing streak in the history of the four major sports

34:27

in North America, right, But I mean, it seems like it

34:30

would be impossible to

34:32

lose seventeen straight baseball

34:34

games. That's almost

34:37

I mean, just think about in the course of a

34:39

season. It's almost

34:41

impossible. What's the longest losing

34:43

streak in the history of baseball?

34:45

Like it was it twenty five or twenty

34:48

six games? Anybody know not

34:50

to mention in the postseason, which means

34:52

that you're a pretty good team to make the postseason,

34:55

right, We're not talking about a team that's

34:57

only gonna win fifty five or sixty

34:59

games like the worst teams often do.

35:02

It's statistically beyond

35:05

measure. For a team that's good

35:07

enough to make the postseason to lose

35:09

seventeen straight games should

35:12

not be able to happen. It dates back

35:14

to two thousand four, two thousand

35:16

and four. I

35:19

mean, that is unheard of to

35:21

go all the way back. If you are a Minnesota

35:24

sports fan, we always talk about,

35:26

you know, who are the most star crossed most unfortunately?

35:30

Uh, you know, like what and

35:33

how it plays out. Minnesota's in that

35:35

mix, City of Buffalo is

35:37

in that mix, City of Atlanta

35:40

is in that mix. You know, teams that just

35:42

they never can quite seem

35:44

to get over that hump. Seventeen

35:47

straight for the Twins is truly

35:49

without precedent. Do you want the breakdown

35:51

on it? Yeah? I actually okay. Two

35:53

thousand four they lost three straight to the Yankees.

35:56

Two thousand six, they lost three straight

35:58

to the A's, two thousand nine,

36:00

three straight to the Yankees, two thousand ten,

36:03

three straight to the Yankees. Two thousand

36:05

eighteen, Uh, they lost a one

36:07

game playoff against the Aches, and

36:09

then in two thousand nineteen, three

36:11

in a row against the Yankees, I mean the Yankees.

36:14

Clearly, I knew it was a lot of

36:16

those losses were against the Yankees. But

36:19

to go fifteen years without being

36:22

able to an hour on sixteen years, I guess,

36:24

without being able to have a postseason

36:26

victory, not not you know, not

36:29

win a series, but just win a

36:31

game and they play tonight,

36:33

right, So I mean, in theory, they could lose

36:36

their eighteen straight and the season's over yet

36:38

again exactly as

36:40

streak and baseball back in games,

36:43

all right, So what's the nine?

36:46

All right? That's tough to do. What's a modern

36:48

era longest losing streak. They're

36:50

close to setting that record relatively

36:52

speaking, in actually

36:55

the postseason, which again is good

36:57

teams that advanced there. When we come back,

36:59

I'll go to your phone calls. If you had to

37:01

make a sporting analogy for what happened

37:03

in the debate last night, what would your

37:06

analogy be? Open up phones, eight, seven,

37:08

seven, nine, six, six, three

37:10

six nine, Give me a sporting analogy. Will

37:12

also be joined by John Morrossi, our Major

37:15

League baseball insider. I'll ask him about

37:17

that Twins record of futility all

37:19

that more. This is OutKick on Fox Sports

37:21

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