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should be. So we've

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been kind of speculating, not

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if, but when the NFL is

1:24

going to get to an eighteen

1:27

game season. We're sitting at seventeen

1:29

now, and it was only a matter of time.

1:31

Roger Goodell was on the Pat McAfee

1:33

show starring Ajhawk on Friday,

1:36

which, by the way, the Kentucky Derby's

1:38

coming up this weekend. It's a damn

1:41

shame we can't have our Kentucky Derby insider

1:43

Ajhawk join us on the show

1:45

to kind of.

1:46

Break down the Kentucky hear. I'm not necessarily

1:48

sure that we can't. I

1:51

can try reaching out and seeing if it's possible.

1:53

I mean, we got to make that happen.

1:56

The problem is, I don't know what he's gonna call the Derbys

1:58

on Saturday. Our show stops Friday. Yeah,

2:02

so you went like a Monday recap. Plus

2:05

I'm not even on Friday this week, But.

2:09

Yeah, how would we work this thing? I

2:11

mean, yeah, because he's not great

2:14

at really giving predictions.

2:16

It's more a recap of the

2:18

event and the drinking and partying that goes

2:20

on at the event, and also how much they're gambling

2:23

Monday. Yeah, I

2:25

mean Monday could work. I'm not

2:27

trying to. We don't want to get him in trouble though. If it's

2:30

going to be a problem, you know, we don't want to. We don't

2:32

want to cause those problems. But you know, he

2:34

was ours first. I mean, before he was

2:36

on the Pat McAfee show, he was doing you

2:38

know, horse racing and Kentucky

2:40

Derby recaps. So we'll

2:42

get to see we're we're going to effort that and see.

2:44

What technically I think that started like

2:47

while they were patting him or working together, so

2:50

it was still part of the Pat McAfee show, just not as we

2:52

know it today.

2:54

Huh. I didn't know they'd worked together that long.

2:56

Well yeah, yeah, they actually work together

2:58

back when I believe it was a barstool

3:01

show.

3:02

Okay, yeah, so then yeah,

3:04

that seems to make sense. All right, Well

3:06

whatever, listen, he was ours on

3:08

Fox Sports Radio first, Brady Quinn

3:10

and I when we did the Sunday Night show. So we'll see

3:12

if we can line that up. But point

3:15

is Roger Goodell was talking

3:17

with Pat with AJ and the guys

3:19

at the draft on Friday in Detroit

3:22

and had some things to say about the potential

3:25

of the regular season expanding and

3:27

also the potential of the

3:29

super Bowl being on President's

3:31

Day weekend.

3:32

Well, I think we're good at seventeen now,

3:34

but listen, we're looking at how we continue.

3:36

I'm not a fan of the preseason. I'd rather

3:38

replace a preseason game of the regular season any

3:40

day. That's just picking quality,

3:43

right, So if we

3:45

get if we got to eighteen and two, that's not

3:47

an unreasonable thing. The other thing it does, which

3:49

I thought you were going to is that ends

3:51

up on President's Day weekend,

3:54

which is a three day weekend, which makes the Sunday

3:56

night and then you have Monday off.

3:58

I love how he's got a work that in with the

4:00

live crowd behind him. You know, he's got to let

4:02

it, got to let everybody know, like, hey, I'm on your side,

4:05

guys, this is out works.

4:06

It's like, get many cheers.

4:09

The other thing, too, that I thought was kind of

4:11

funny is that you'll get the you know, we

4:13

care about player safety, care about player safety.

4:15

We're going to add a regular season game, but don't worry,

4:17

we're going to take one off the preseason. It's like, well,

4:20

like, how many snaps do starters

4:22

actually get in preseason games?

4:24

Now?

4:24

Like some of these guys don't play at all, So you're

4:27

still going to run into that. And I

4:29

just wonder, you know, how

4:31

much pushback there's going to be from the PA, or

4:33

if they've got enough, you know, if they're actually

4:36

going to stand their ground this time and let

4:38

it pass. I think last time it passed

4:40

it was like fifty one percent. It was a narrow

4:42

margin to get to seventeen games, and players

4:45

are upset about it. I wonder what this means for eighteen

4:47

for those guys.

4:48

Well, the problem is again they allowed

4:50

this footing to take place

4:52

in the CBA, and typically

4:54

when the owners won something which at

4:57

an additional regular season game to

5:00

more revenue for the league, and the

5:02

owners will say back, or Roger Cadell will say

5:04

back, well, hey, that's you know, that's revenue that we're splitting

5:07

with you guys, the players, So it's good for everyone.

5:10

The problem is the players. Obviously it's

5:12

an additional game, additional chance

5:14

of getting injured, and

5:16

now you might be able to say, well, that's also a different additional

5:19

chance to earn incentives and things of that

5:21

nature. I'm sure those are going to shift

5:23

though, where they're going to make it more difficult

5:26

for them to earn you know, certain incentives,

5:28

right, certain numbers. And that's one of the

5:30

reasons why you always see playtime

5:33

like you see percentages. Right. So if it's a sixteen

5:36

game season, seventeen game season, eighteen game season,

5:38

you've got to play what fifty one percent of

5:40

the snaps or you know, seventy percent of

5:42

the snaps in order to earn that incentive. And

5:45

that's one of the reasons why they put in a contract that way, because

5:47

they don't want to have it set to you, oh, we need you need to play

5:50

x amount of games x amount of plays, right,

5:52

since that can fluctuate. So it's

5:54

more of the frustration I think from players

5:56

that they have to put themselves out

5:58

there for an additional game and

6:01

the owners really receive the

6:03

majority of the benefit of that, and there's

6:06

no way the players can recoup

6:08

anything other than saying we don't like this,

6:10

We're not going to play. We're going to strike until

6:12

you guys figure out something else. That

6:14

we want and you've got to give us since you

6:16

want these eighteen games. Because the other

6:18

thing for players, and one of the reasons why the NFLPA

6:22

tries to protect the at least

6:24

two preseason games in this case is it's

6:27

to showcase guys who haven't played to make the roster.

6:29

You know, there's a lot of opportunities for guys

6:32

who get drafted or get signed as free agents

6:35

and come in or trying to make the roster, and

6:37

those preseason games are invaluable

6:39

for experience but also for making the roster. And

6:42

if those guys don't have those or they cut down

6:44

those opportunities, you only got two instead of maybe three

6:46

games. It can be somewhat difficult

6:49

when you're trying to figure out, you know, which guys

6:51

could make that back end of it. You know, it's not

6:53

as you know, presumed

6:55

to the rosters. Everyone thinks like, oh, well,

6:57

these are the guys you're going to take just because the contracts. It's

6:59

not all is the case. You got some guys who really show

7:01

up the preseason once the lights turn on, and

7:04

that makes the difference of them making the roster. So I

7:07

think there needs to be at least too, that's probably

7:09

the minimum. But are the players that get

7:11

another buy, I think any additional time off

7:13

to rest their bodies. Are they just going

7:16

to plow through the rest of the eighteen game season with

7:18

only one buy? And maybe you get, you know,

7:20

an additional time off after a short week on

7:22

a Thursday night.

7:23

And look, I know, the preseason,

7:25

like people will look at it and go, well, you know the

7:28

games aren't you know, they don't matter. It's exhibition.

7:30

You know, fans don't even care. It's well not

7:33

everything has to be about whether or not fans

7:35

care, like, you know, like fans you know, probably

7:37

aren't watching, you know, all of OTAs

7:40

or aren't attendance for a lot of these things

7:42

in the offseason. It doesn't mean there's not important and

7:44

there's no value in them. And I just I

7:46

look at it and I go, I hope we never get to a point

7:48

to where somebody's pounding the table to get rid of

7:50

them altogether and just say no, no,

7:53

just get past and go straight to the season.

7:55

They can do it in college football. Why can't you do it

7:57

in the NFL. There's there's something

7:59

too, And I know a lot of people aren't

8:02

fans of it or maybe don't like it.

8:03

I like the preseason.

8:05

I like watching you know, certain guys

8:07

that you maybe followed in college that

8:09

are going to get a couple of snaps or a couple of

8:11

reps here or there. And also if

8:13

you're one of these guys and you do get in a preseason

8:16

game, if you never made an

8:18

NFL roster and played in a regular

8:20

season game, to me, that still matters.

8:23

Like to be able to be out there in an NFL

8:25

stadium and to be able to compete

8:27

like you're still in rarefied air. I

8:29

hope like the entire value of the preseason

8:32

doesn't get lost with people going to the Yeah,

8:34

but fans don't care about it. It's exhibition football.

8:37

You know, they're not even painting the stadiums half the

8:39

time, the stadiums aren't full. Not everything's

8:41

got to be about the show and about the

8:43

fans. They get enough, like

8:45

they're getting eighteen regular season

8:47

games, they've got the playoffs, they've got the

8:50

draft, they've got all that stuff. Not everything has to be

8:52

marketed to just the fans. And I feel

8:54

like sometimes people try and make that argument to.

8:56

Your point too, about even

8:59

just the opportunities to be there in

9:01

the preseason for players and that might

9:03

be their only mark, or there might be the only reps they

9:06

get in their career. But

9:08

more so just talking about quarterbacks,

9:11

oftentimes that backup, the only live reps he's getting

9:13

are those two preseason games. And so

9:16

how much are you really preparing that backup

9:18

to go in and try to win some games for your

9:20

team if you keep cutting

9:22

down on some of those live reps. You

9:24

know, I'm not saying it makes a world

9:26

of difference, but it makes a difference. Given

9:29

those guys some live gave experience before they actually

9:31

go into the to the regular season. There's different

9:34

speeds and going from training camp,

9:36

in practice or even enjoining practices, it's

9:38

not the same speed as what you're going to see. Then once you go

9:40

into a preseason game, and once you get to preseason

9:43

game of ramps up a little bit in the regular season. So to

9:45

not make it such a big jump, especially for young

9:47

quarterbacks in a league that you know obviously

9:49

feeds off young quarterbacks from college football

9:52

all the time, whether as starters or as backups,

9:55

it would be who of the NFL to

9:57

remember this there's still development going on.

10:00

I know it's all about money. That's all all people

10:02

care about anymore is money, money, money.

10:04

But when you have a crappy product, right because

10:07

the most important position, you don't

10:09

put in the things necessary to help them

10:11

develop or help them get live reps, it's

10:13

gonna end up being unwatchable at times.

10:15

And the offense is scoring has been down

10:18

quarterback play. A lot of people would challenge, I

10:20

mean, Tom Brady said this, you know, recently,

10:22

like they just not taught how to play the game

10:25

of football, like if he needs to be played at the next

10:27

level. A lot of these young men aren't be taught

10:29

in fronts. They're not being taught, you know, how to

10:31

read coverage and hey, what concepts

10:33

works against different coverages? How do you beat

10:35

stacks? How do you beat bunches? Like these are

10:37

not concepts that you're hearing

10:39

college teams talk about. That's not the type

10:41

of system and style they're running there. So

10:44

if you want to protect your product, you want to protect

10:47

the game, you're gonna have to remember there

10:49

needs to be time to teach these young men who

10:51

are coming to the NFL how to play the NFL

10:53

game, which is different than college.

10:54

And also when people complain about the quality

10:57

of play, and you mentioned the offense is being down, but

10:59

that, like we always have these discussions early

11:01

on in the season, man tackling was bad,

11:03

this was bad.

11:04

That was bad. Well, yeah, that's that's a result

11:06

of guys.

11:07

Aren't out there like they're not they're not getting

11:09

any action, they're not in these games like they're

11:11

practicing. But it's not the same. So at

11:14

least, you know, we're still going to maintain

11:16

the two games. If we get to the eighteen game regular

11:18

season, now the super Bowl on

11:20

President's Day weekend, that is

11:22

a no brainer, a right that has to happen.

11:25

I would also say, you know, if you're

11:27

one of these fans who still shows up

11:29

to work on Monday because you didn't plan in advance,

11:32

you know, some sort of vasectomy or

11:35

a kinsinetta or you know,

11:37

surprise birthday, maybe a

11:40

death in the family that you can kind of, you know,

11:42

look into the future and say, all right, the I'm going to pencil

11:44

that in. That'll be my go to whatever

11:47

it is. If you're not already getting the Monday

11:49

after the super Bowl off, you got

11:51

problems. But at least the NFL is going to save the

11:53

day and potentially throw the super Bowl on Presiden's

11:55

Day weekend. Not that it matters to us.

11:58

We're still going to be doing the show, and we still got to be here at

12:00

work because we're grinding away doing sportstock

12:02

radio. But for fans, at least, this is

12:04

going to give them their day off, or you

12:07

just move the super Bowl to Saturday and we don't have

12:09

to worry about.

12:09

Any of this stuff. I know you have

12:11

pushed for that.

12:12

I just think there's something there.

12:14

There is something there. I won't argue against it

12:16

because it would be nice to have that next day hangover.

12:19

I'm sure Lee and some others out there would join

12:21

in in that thought. But I

12:23

looked at it and I think they're

12:26

just trying to eat up the entire calendar. That's

12:29

the reality of it. They're trying to make every single

12:31

week kind of blend into the next. Where if

12:34

you keep pushing it back further in the February,

12:36

think about what's in the on the other

12:38

side of that, the start of the new league year in free

12:40

agency, so you really

12:42

don't have any sort of letdown. It just it

12:45

rolls right from the super Bowl, the biggest

12:47

event. You catch your breath, but you already

12:50

start getting the conversations about roster

12:52

building and free agents and the next year.

12:54

The combines, the combines last week

12:56

of February, right.

12:57

That's yeah, excuse me, so, which is

12:59

where a lot of the rumors and things come from. So but

13:02

to your point, to that point, you literally turn

13:04

it over, like then we start focusing on

13:06

college. Then we start focusing focus.

13:07

On the week and a half, and they're showing up to

13:09

Indianapolis for the combine.

13:13

That's that's another reason though, why

13:15

I think you're going to see teams that play in the Super Bowl not

13:17

even attend the Combine, you know, not if they.

13:19

Don't have to.

13:20

So well, yeah, listen, now we're

13:22

going to get the all the speculation

13:25

and the potential of this stuff happening. I do wonder

13:27

how soon until it happens

13:30

before the NFL pulls the trigger, because

13:32

as you said at the start, it was only a matter

13:34

of if or or when not if

13:36

that this was going to happen. They were going to expand the season.

13:39

I just wonder how how far away

13:41

we're.

13:42

Looking at that.

13:43

And here's the dirty truth about

13:45

how they get to the eighteen games. It's

13:47

going to increase the revenue because

13:50

it's going to increase the money coming

13:52

from TV at least we would

13:54

assume so. And what that

13:56

does is it increases the salary cap and

13:58

it increases cap more salary

14:01

cap space for the top one

14:03

or two percent. And the top one or two

14:05

percent are the guys who oftentimes

14:07

are lobbying their team. They're representing the

14:09

team amongst the union because

14:11

they want to get these deals through. You

14:13

know, they usually the top paid guys end up

14:15

being represented representatives of teams

14:18

for the NFL Players Union because they're untouchable.

14:21

Right. There's always this thought that if you

14:23

were a union rep and you're the guy out

14:25

there of practice monitoring things, making sure

14:27

that you know this, the coaching

14:29

staff for this particular organization's

14:32

not pulling one over or doing something

14:34

illegal within the CBA, and

14:36

you got to call them on that. But you're a guy who doesn't have

14:38

many guarantees in his contract. You're concerned that

14:40

you could be a casually to due to

14:42

it. So it's

14:45

usually the top one or two percent that will push

14:47

for it too, because they're also incentivized

14:50

because the next time their contracts up, they're

14:52

gonna be the guy cashing in on it.

14:54

Good good for them. See that.

14:55

That's why you got to aim to be a top one

14:58

or two percent, right, don't don't settle for the

15:00

middle of the pack. Crap, be a one to two

15:02

percent guy. All right, that's the moral story

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It is a Monday, so we are going to have an

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be yours again a little over twenty

16:22

minutes from now. So,

16:25

David Tepper, the owner

16:28

of the Carolina Panthers, was

16:30

fined three hundred thousand dollars for

16:32

throwing that beer at the Jaguars

16:34

fan.

16:34

I think it was water, but yeah.

16:37

Doesn't it sound better though if it's beer.

16:39

Yeah, and it does. It's just not factually

16:41

true.

16:41

Yeah, But I mean, this is radio. You know, we've

16:44

got a you know, we're trying to tell stories here.

16:46

Okay, so making it is something even worse than

16:48

that.

16:50

Okay, lighter fluid,

16:52

make you okay

16:55

fluid.

16:56

And if you're going to cross the line, why don't just like jump

16:58

over it? You know what?

17:00

He was reaching for his big lighter in his front

17:02

pocket, but the guy ran away before he could light

17:04

him up.

17:05

But because I just think like, if somebody

17:08

throws water at you, it's.

17:09

Basically like a squirt gun,

17:11

you know, at the park during summertime.

17:13

You know, did

17:15

they Did anybody throw water at you

17:17

recently?

17:19

No?

17:19

I hope not.

17:20

Okay, Well you would remember anyway.

17:22

That's true.

17:23

Sometimes you need that. It's

17:25

a helpful wake up call.

17:27

Good, good wake up call.

17:29

So David Tepper, the owner of the Carolina

17:31

Panthers, who

17:34

I mean, listen, he threw pro pane

17:37

and lighter, fluid and beer and whatever other

17:39

concoction you want to throw at somebody during

17:42

the Jaguars game against the

17:44

Panthers last year. The NFL find him significantly

17:47

three hundred thousand dollars.

17:48

Not a great look.

17:49

He was criticized for it, and

17:51

he decided, you know what, I'm

17:53

going to change my ways. I'm not going

17:56

to let fans get under my skin any longer.

17:58

And so what did you do? On

18:00

Thursday? On his way to

18:03

the draft where the Carolina

18:05

Panthers were getting ready to go to the war room

18:07

and try and figure out what exactly

18:09

their plan was now that they gave up their

18:12

draft picks to the Chicago Bears,

18:14

to kind of change their franchise. He

18:17

decided, I don't like the sign

18:19

in front of a restaurant and bar

18:21

on my way there that said let

18:24

the coach and GM make the pick.

18:26

So David Tepper walks into the bar

18:29

and approaches two employees at

18:31

the restaurant that are standing behind the host stand.

18:34

Surveillance video comes out. They

18:36

tried to play it off as it being friendly. He

18:39

removed a guy's hat from his head

18:42

on video because the guy was wearing

18:44

an Eagles hat and he didn't like that the guy

18:46

was wearing an Eagles hat, and

18:48

then shook everybody's hand, had

18:50

a couple of words, and then walked out.

18:53

I don't know about you, but if you were working

18:55

at the Bogiean back in the day, Brady Quinn,

18:58

and somebody walked in and took

19:00

a hat off your head because they

19:02

didn't like the team on the front of the hat, how's

19:05

that going to conclude? What's the ending to that

19:07

story?

19:07

I probably would have slapped him.

19:08

Yeah.

19:09

The interesting thing is if the kid knew who

19:11

he was, which I assume David

19:13

Tepper is well enough known in that town where

19:16

you're probably going to handle it a little different.

19:18

We obviously don't know exactly what was said, but

19:21

not a cool move by anyone

19:24

if someone's going to just grab your hat and take

19:26

it off your head like that, And I

19:28

don't want to sensationalize that

19:30

particular action. What I'd like to focus

19:32

on is that you're a billionaire

19:35

and you have such thin skin that

19:38

you drive by a restaurant and they're

19:40

giving more sage advice that you

19:42

should probably listen to, but it bothers

19:45

you so much you have to

19:47

pull over, walk inside, and then talk

19:49

to someone who probably has nothing

19:51

to do with putting that side up. That's

19:54

an ownership decision, yeah right, or

19:56

whoever's managing that restaurant, maybe

19:59

the same person. Either way, that's

20:02

their decision. Like, that's not the guy who's at

20:04

the host stand, who's sitting there,

20:06

you know, at the front. He's

20:09

probably not the one who ultimately makes the decision

20:11

on whether or not that sign flies, right, especially

20:13

if he represents your restaurant, so owner

20:16

to owner, maybe he should call up the

20:18

guy who owns the establishment and have it

20:20

out with him. Either way, it's

20:22

just, oh.

20:23

Man, it's a clown

20:25

move, But it's a clown.

20:27

Move in a

20:30

list of clown moves that have been made by

20:32

that team. Like I wonder, like if you're Matt

20:34

Rule and if you're Frank

20:37

Reich, now

20:39

that you're away from the mess, I wonder if you

20:41

look back and go, good God.

20:43

What the hell was that?

20:45

Well?

20:45

What is happening here?

20:47

I wonder if there's a certain number of

20:49

folks who approved David

20:52

excuse me, approved David Temper

20:54

as an owner that are regretting that now. And

20:56

I understand they were in a spot where they had to turn

20:58

around sell the team quick given what

21:00

had taken place under mister Richardson. But you

21:02

know, the truth of the matter is you

21:04

didn't have to like rush to do it. He

21:07

clearly was someone who had the money to do it.

21:09

But it has been a disaster since he's taken

21:12

over as the majority owner of the

21:14

Carolina Panthers. And look,

21:16

I hope they can write the ship, but I really

21:18

say that for the player's sake, and

21:20

the coaches say because they're families, I

21:22

don't have much confidence that he's going to figure out anytime

21:24

soon. Given everything he's been through the past

21:27

two years now, and yet he still

21:29

makes these sorts of moves, these sorts of decisions.

21:31

Look, I don't like what would go through your mind to think,

21:33

oh, this is this is the move I should make. Like

21:35

I'm on my way to go ahead and try

21:37

and figure out what direction we're going in the draft.

21:40

And let me stop off here at a neighborhood

21:43

bar and grill and approach somebody and

21:45

remove a hat off their head because I don't like the signage

21:47

out in front. But I'll shake everybody's hand and play it off

21:49

like we're all buddy, buddy and friends there.

21:51

You're not dude, like you should be avoiding

21:54

stuff like this at all costs. But

21:57

there's you know, if you look back at some of his

22:00

you know, some of the stuff out there on him. I think this came

22:02

out after you know, he threw the lighter

22:04

fluid on the fan at the Jaguars game.

22:07

If you look back on the on

22:12

the Uh, listen, we're having some fun

22:14

here, all right. Listen.

22:15

If he if he can take somebody's hat off their

22:17

head, then we can go ahead and.

22:18

Uh and just wait, just wait, till you get that call

22:20

from legal by the way. Uh,

22:22

then they felt like that's a little stepping

22:25

over the badges.

22:27

But like there was reports that came out

22:29

and there was a story that you know, he

22:31

had said that if he wanted, if

22:34

he bought a building somewhere, like

22:36

he would just buy a place just to shut

22:38

it down and put it.

22:39

Out of the restaurant, by the entire building, and yeah.

22:42

Just to just to fire everybody and get rid of it all,

22:45

like just to just to destroy the whole thing. Like,

22:47

dude, you got to stay

22:50

out of the public eye to a certain extent,

22:52

all right. And I know you're the owner, and

22:54

I know everybody wants to be Jerry Jones.

22:56

Jerry Jones isn't doing this Jerry Jones

22:59

at least all the meddaling and all

23:01

the stuff that we want to say about him. At least

23:03

when Jerry Jones talks

23:05

about his team or defends his team,

23:08

he does it in a way to try and grow the brand.

23:10

He does two interviews a week

23:13

on local Dallas radio. Like he'll

23:15

get combative if he needs to get combative.

23:17

But he's not doing this. And David

23:19

Tepper wants to be Jerry Jones,

23:22

except the approach he's taking is let

23:24

me go ahead and throw stuff at fans and

23:27

remove hats off people's heads because I don't like

23:29

signage out in front, and then just fire

23:31

a bunch of coaches in a row. You could say whatever

23:33

you want about Jerry Jones, here's

23:35

what you can say about him that is actually

23:38

true and is actually a compliment to the guy.

23:40

He's loyal to. A fault case

23:43

in point Zeke Elliot's back. You

23:46

got to do a lot to be fired as a head

23:48

coach by Jerry Jones, and he's going

23:50

to defend his team and he's going to grow the brand.

23:53

All David Tepper has done since he got into Carolina

23:55

is drive him into the ground and fire coaches.

23:58

And if you're Bryce Young in any of those, dude,

24:02

my apologies. I hope it goes

24:04

well. I love Bryce hung Dave

24:06

Canalis seems like a good dude. But I'm

24:08

looking around going all right, win, am I next?

24:11

Because that's what it feels like.

24:12

Well, the last thing you want to be is a distraction

24:15

for your team. You're the owner. You're

24:17

preaching that everyone underneath

24:19

you, right, You're preaching the fact that

24:21

you don't want anyone to be a distraction to the

24:23

team. And yet that's the message

24:26

you're sending by pulling over and doing

24:28

that, Like you're becoming a distraction

24:30

for your first year, first time head coach

24:33

and your second year rookie quarterback is trying to figure

24:35

all this stuff out. You know, people

24:37

might be asking your players coaches questions

24:40

about playing for an owner that conducts

24:42

themselves this way. I mean, that's what

24:44

rule number one is. Don't

24:46

make it harder than it is. It's hard to win

24:49

in the NFL, and yet somehow

24:51

David Tepper has found a way to I

24:54

don't know if it's embarrass himself is the right

24:57

way to put it. But I

24:59

go back to this too. We just had the

25:01

draft, and everyone always says, oh, which quarterback

25:04

is gonna make it? Which one's going to be a bust?

25:06

And I'm like, dude, here's

25:08

the truth of the matter. You know, if

25:11

you're in a good situation of circumstance,

25:13

you could be less talented, you could probably make it,

25:15

and you could be a franchise guy. You can have a successful

25:18

career if everything lines up for you,

25:20

even if you're not the most talented. Because

25:22

I promise you all these quarterbacks that were

25:24

draft in the first round, they all have the

25:27

same in tangibles for the most part.

25:29

I bet they all work hard. I bet they all take

25:31

pride in what they do their team players.

25:34

They're selfless and

25:37

they have all those attributes that you're looking

25:39

for as a leader. If they didn't, they wouldn't have been drafted

25:41

in the first round, they wouldn't have been top players

25:43

at the college level, all that stuff.

25:46

So then what separates them, Well, you

25:48

know, some guys got better arms than others. Some guys are

25:50

more accurate, some guys might have a better football

25:52

sense or intuition when the snap of the football

25:54

happens where to go with the football. You

25:57

could be taught what to do, but then

25:59

knowing when to do what it is is

26:01

a big part of like the wisdom part, right,

26:03

and matching those two of what and when to do it

26:06

is really what you see then on the field, And that's what

26:08

you see from the greatest players is

26:10

they have a natural feel and intuition

26:13

for what to do and when to do it. So

26:17

the situation of circumstance that

26:20

they walk into with a team with

26:22

ownership matters more than anything.

26:24

Else. And that's one of the tough things

26:26

about saying this is you kind of feel like a player

26:28

who goes to Carolina is

26:31

almost, I don't want to say career suicide,

26:33

but it's an uphill battle because you've

26:35

got an owner who's meddling in this. And we could

26:37

even talk about at some point today show Michael

26:40

Pennix and Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons

26:42

and their first round decision, because there's

26:45

conflicting thoughts on to who made the decision,

26:47

who ultimately pulled the trigger on that, And we'll get

26:49

to that at another time. But I

26:52

would challenge what you said about he wants to be Jerry

26:54

Jones. I don't think he's acting anywhere close

26:56

to Jerry Jones. I don't think he can be Jerry Jones.

26:59

Jerry Jones has way too much equity built

27:01

up in the league as far as what he's done for the league, what he's

27:03

done for the Dallas Cowboys, what he's done

27:05

for Fox as a TV network, Right,

27:09

But I don't think they're even in the same stratosphere like

27:12

that, like that, Like, to me, that's not a comparison because

27:14

Jerry Jones has won in this league. He's

27:17

brought this league to a point where he's continued to

27:19

pushed it forward. David Tepper

27:21

is just trying to figure out how to win some games with

27:24

his franchise. Like that's

27:26

the only thing that he should be focusing

27:28

on. That's the only thing that he's brought to

27:30

the table outside of a quick transaction

27:33

to buy an NFL franchise when

27:35

they want to move on from the narrative

27:37

and everything that had taken place with the

27:40

former owner, that that was really what

27:42

it was about. Hey, who's a guy

27:44

that can come in, can buy this team

27:46

and get us to move on from all

27:48

the stuff that was taking place in Carolina before

27:51

we before you know, temper took over.

27:53

Like we don't want we don't want to remember that, we want to talk about it, Let's

27:56

move on from it, Let's find a new owner. And

27:58

I guess he's been a good, good distraction for that because

28:01

no one's thinking about you know, you know what's thinking

28:03

about what was taking place or trying to dig into that a

28:05

little bit deeper.

28:06

Yeah no, Instead, there they've got this

28:08

this fiasco on their hands. So yeah,

28:10

that's the that's the update on the Carolina Panthers.

28:12

So again, Dave Canalis, Bryce

28:15

Young, you guys, you know, you

28:18

know, good luck, Yeah.

28:19

Have fun.

28:20

We'll see, we'll see how this plays out this upcoming

28:22

season for Carolina.

28:23

It is two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports

28:25

Radio.

28:26

By the way, I was thinking about this, Brady, your

28:28

brother in law, Jack Johnson has

28:30

got to be thrilled that

28:32

he's not in Chicago anymore and he's back with Colorado

28:35

when he came back last year, like he's actually

28:37

like playing in playoff hockey, like

28:39

games that matter again. Like that

28:42

little whatever that you know, cup of coffee

28:44

was that he had.

28:44

I think it was two years ago? Actually was it?

28:46

Yeah, it seems like yesterday. Yeah

28:49

it wasn't. It wasn't the last year at the deadline.

28:51

Those two years ago. I don't know.

28:53

Whatever it is, Hey, go abs.

28:55

The last year at the deadline maybe might have been.

28:57

I don't know, but go Abs. Go Jack Johnson.

29:00

You log in a quality minutes there by

29:02

the way I saw he He also got

29:04

a penalty in the game last night. I think, yeah,

29:07

I two minutes in the box for

29:10

so so go Avs here

29:12

on this show. We were Avs guys, through and through

29:14

except for Eddie. Eddie's a Kings fan. So

29:16

Kings fan, yeah, big time.

29:18

Wait I thought it was a Penguins fan.

29:20

No Pirates. Yeah

29:23

what Eddie. He's

29:26

a big Doug Doug dre back guy from back

29:28

in the day.

29:28

So wait, Steelers then Pirates,

29:30

but not the Penguins.

29:33

Yeah, I know it seems a little weird,

29:35

but.

29:37

Yeah.

29:37

When I got into hockey, the Kings were the only team in California

29:40

and actually felt like rooting for one team

29:42

that was local, so that makes sense.

29:44

And Gretzky had just come so it got

29:46

a lot of interest in the team.

29:47

So was that way.

29:49

Three ninety

29:52

three they went to the Cup finals and lost.

29:53

So so what you say,

29:56

you're a Chargers fan second then to the Steelers.

29:59

I I you know, I'm I want my wife

30:02

to be happy, so if they one,

30:05

no, no, no, no. But I wouldn't

30:07

call myself a fan necessarily. I like going to the games.

30:09

I love football regardless, and they

30:11

usually have some entertaining games.

30:13

Even when they lose, they're usually entertaining.

30:15

But yeah, I don't, I don't.

30:17

I don't get upset when they lose. Really, that to

30:19

me, that if you're a fan, you have to

30:21

get upset.

30:22

When the team loses them.

30:23

I'm like, yeah, okay, let's.

30:25

You would you call them a Queen's sure?

30:29

I mean I'm familiar with them, you know, regardless,

30:32

because it's a lot of chatter in the house.

30:33

So yeah, your NFL side piece is the charger.

30:36

It's not all of that, you know, I'll take

30:38

that. Yeah, but do you hear what Jim

30:40

Harbaugh said. They're asking them like, you know

30:42

what you guys didn't address.

30:44

They're like, just the weapons.

30:45

I love this.

30:46

I love this city so well

30:49

around here we view offensive lineman his weapons.

30:51

Yeah,

30:54

so simple, It's so simple.

30:56

So meathead. So Jim Harbaugh,

30:58

I love him.

30:59

Man.

31:00

I actually thought they did all right, like the all

31:02

in all, And they did get some Michigan players back

31:05

as part of that group. And did they get mccawkay in the second

31:07

round? Yes, yes, yeah, they

31:10

got a good wide receiver.

31:12

Yeah, so they're gonna be uh.

31:14

Cherry Rice's kid too, right.

31:15

Brennan Rece did the seventh round.

31:18

In the seventh round, He's got a lot of upside.

31:20

Look forget the lineage for a second. You know, he's

31:23

he's a very capable player. And noyone watched him

31:25

at USC, so I'm curious to see how he'll

31:27

impact the roster if you can.

31:29

Yeah, it's going to be something to monitor there,

31:31

and Eddie Garcia will be on hand to see all

31:33

of the action there.

31:34

Damn straight.

31:35

It is two pros and a company security

31:37

guard boxboard radio.

31:41

Question.

31:42

I mean ed he said he's not there anymore. But I don't

31:44

know. I've been

31:46

to so far. I don't think they've beefed up security as much

31:48

as you know you guys like to claim.

31:50

Yeah, well, I mean definitely

31:52

not beefed up, that's for sure.

31:54

Have you ever figured out what the name of that toy is

31:57

with the.

31:57

Ball of the string on the paddle, I don't know, Lee, do

31:59

we forget that out?

32:00

I think it's paddle ball.

32:02

It's just it's not paddle ball it

32:04

is.

32:05

I mean when you look up pedal ball,

32:07

I mean that shows.

32:07

Up what comes up? Yeah, it feels

32:10

too close to pickle ball. It should be caught probably

32:12

called paddle ball.

32:13

And I think there is a paddle. Yeah,

32:16

no, it's.

32:17

It's paddle ball. So so up up next.

32:19

When you Google starts that you see a picture

32:21

of the actual thing that you see Frank Gore running

32:24

down fields out of jockstrap on. That is essentially

32:27

that's where it comes up.

32:29

That is where it comes up. There, you go, well

32:31

done, Just

32:33

bounce around there. You are just

32:36

a class act throwing through that.

32:38

Brady Quinn, tell me.

32:39

I'm wrong you of all people, because you look

32:41

for that sort of listen, I'm more watching

32:44

to see his running style, whether or not he's

32:46

you know, holding onto the football.

32:48

You know the three points of pressure.

32:49

Zero truth of that. You're the one that actually brought

32:52

to life Chris Showings forty yard dash

32:54

at the Combo. Okay, no, you said, I've never

32:56

seen anything like this outside of the one

32:58

time I went to Africa and I saw

33:00

a baby elephant fall.

33:02

Look like, I didn't know it was Operation

33:04

Dumbo Drop at the Combine

33:06

in Indianapolis years ago. All right, apparently

33:09

it was. And Chris Jones had

33:11

a little bit of an accident. But you know what, he's

33:13

putting together a Hall of Fame career, and I'm

33:15

not going to let that slip up and

33:17

that wardrobe malfunction

33:19

deter me from the fact that he's a great player in

33:21

the NFL. And when it comes to Frank Orr. Look

33:24

man guy

33:26

went to the produce to isle and the you know, forgot

33:28

to bring a bag in the store. So he just said,

33:30

I'll shove it at my front pocket and we'll just figure it out

33:32

from there. I don't know what to tell you, all right, but Frank Or

33:34

he's going to be a Hall of Famer, and so

33:37

is Chris Jones. So more

33:40

of the story is, if you have a

33:42

wardrobe malfunction, you're probably going to be a

33:44

Hall of Famer too. That's what we've got. So

33:47

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34:58

That's going on the IR. What the hell was that, sa Lorena?

35:01

Why took us? I literally threw

35:03

me? Help us? Is this a live

35:05

performance right now? Damn?

35:08

Alright, Lee, it's about that

35:10

side.

35:12

Oh.

35:12

I had an interesting Saturday. So I was

35:14

uh with my god son for his first

35:16

ever trip to a bar. Took my god son,

35:18

ten weeks old to his first bar.

35:20

Yeah that makes sense.

35:21

Yeah, watching the Lakers game at

35:23

the brewery down the street. Hanging

35:26

out with my god some fun times. But then I found

35:28

out, Uh no surprise here. Apparently

35:30

I'm Todd's emergency contact because

35:33

the guys at the bar not

35:35

named Todd start calling me saying, hey man, have

35:37

you uh where's your buddy? You haven't seen him

35:39

today? It's his shift. I was like, yeah, he should

35:42

be there.

35:42

You're his next of kids.

35:44

Apparently they're like, hey man, we're

35:46

starting to get a little worried.

35:47

No call, no show, which isn't rare,

35:49

but uh yeah, I start doing the rounds, make calling

35:51

his roommates, his girlfriend. Uh

35:54

yeah, They're like, no, no word from Todd. So I

35:56

have to uh stop what I'm doing

35:58

and shoot over to todd place to do

36:00

a rattle on his window to wake him

36:02

up for work.

36:04

So that was so why was he? Why was he asleep?

36:06

But what happened though?

36:07

He's you know, funny, funny

36:09

enough. He's just uh, he's that kind of guy. He just

36:11

sleeps at weird uh wherever. Whenever he

36:13

decides to sleep, he knocks out for about twelve hours.

36:15

But he'll go he said wherever, didn't you?

36:18

Yeah, your horse said wherever.

36:23

He'll go like three days without sleep and then I just

36:25

crash for a day and a half.

36:26

You won't hear from him?

36:27

By the way, what's the what was you? Yeah,

36:30

I was gonna say, but did.

36:31

He even know the NFL draft tic place?

36:33

No? God, No, that's how

36:35

you know he doesn't have kids, because

36:38

yeah, like, what's the longest you

36:40

can sleep, Brady before you're worried

36:42

that something's something's

36:45

you know off, Like.

36:46

Well, my Irish story would be like for whatever

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reason, the last probably week or so, because

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I was actually home sold with all four of my kiddos.

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My my thirteen fourteen

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month almost fourteen month old son has

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had one of those sleep regressions where I don't like be

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waking up the middle of the night. You know some

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people called a mental leap where

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they're more aware of stuff. I think

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he's like having nightmares, because that's what it seems like

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at least, But either way, like

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I sleep with a monitor on in case, you

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know, he does need something, and he

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is just up at various hours

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of the night. So it has been quite the

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test with that. And then my five year

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old had a nightmare last night, so she jumped

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in bed. And then like two nights ago it was

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my four year old who had a nightmare

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and she came to jump in bed. So it's always

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it's always something. My wife and I looked

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at each other this morning, We're like, we're never going to sleep the rest of

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our lives.

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So what is the like, what are the nightmares?

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What are we talking about?

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Because my son will have nightmares and they always involve

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like, you know, a trash

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truck running out of gas or something.

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You know, it doesn't seem like that back of a nightmare. I mean,

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are you guys like really concerned about fuel efficiency

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and garbage trucks?

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Well, I mean you see what what truck I drive around

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in? That's right, you know, it's not exactly the

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most you know, and you've all.

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Did you do not have a story for this week?

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I mean it's the same as always, Like what do I do?

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I hang out, I do a show on Saturday, and

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I go chase my son around. It's the same thing.

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There's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing elaborate

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here. Nothing really bitch about,

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not much of a complainer.

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You know, Lee probably had like five stories for us.

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Oh, by the way, I got some I got

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some intel on Lee. I'll tell you after the break. Yeah,

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a little background.

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Curious to hear this