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North Carolina. So we're gonna be going to the

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Rivals football camp tomorrow nice

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and put a stamp on it. So, man,

2:39

just all over the place right now. But you know what this

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everybody's back together. We can fight evil.

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2:52

And speaking of fighting evil, and when

2:55

it fellas I wanted to start off the show

2:58

with the discussion.

3:00

Been hearing reports.

3:01

Out of Dallas that

3:03

Cde Lamb could potentially

3:07

be a holdout candidate for this

3:10

upcoming season. And

3:12

also we'red from inside

3:15

that there's multiple people,

3:18

more than people would would imagine

3:21

that are saying they would have no problem

3:24

if if Dallas were to part

3:26

ways with Michael Parsons.

3:29

I wanted to start that.

3:30

I wanted to start to show off with this and

3:33

get y'all's perspective on first, Let's

3:35

start with cdee Lamb. Is

3:37

this a good Is this a good move for Cede

3:40

Lamb? If they don't extend him.

3:42

He did wait another

3:45

year, he didn't get an extension this past

3:47

season. Uh so this will be

3:49

the final year of his contract. Is

3:52

this the right move for cdee

3:55

Lamb to to potentially hold out,

3:57

if if not even in up

4:00

holding out for a

4:02

new contract.

4:04

Listen, man number

4:07

one. The Cowboys

4:09

need to start being proactive instead

4:12

of reactive. Meaning when

4:14

you have a young player and you know

4:17

he's a cornerstone player, Sonny,

4:21

what you waiting on? You didn't learn

4:23

from Dak Dak Prescott's

4:26

contract didn't teach you guys a lesson.

4:28

You wait, you wait, and you

4:30

wait, and that means it's greater later.

4:32

You're gonna pay way more

4:34

later than you would pay if

4:36

you get out in front of this, Like, you

4:40

can't let a guy in see thee Lamb yet

4:43

you've drafted high in the first round.

4:45

You can't let him go. You have to sign them.

4:48

And the longer you wait, the

4:51

more you're going to pay. Like

4:53

it's almost crazy that

4:56

they haven't negotiated something with

4:58

he now because it's, oh,

5:01

we don't want to pay him this, Well,

5:03

guess what you're gonna pay him later more

5:06

than this.

5:07

And so.

5:09

If I'm City Lamb, it's

5:12

a business because the

5:15

way the Cowboys are approaching this right now,

5:18

they're approaching it as a business. But when

5:20

the player approaches it as a business.

5:23

Oh why are you holding down? You

5:25

gonna be with your teammates and be

5:28

for the team. No, you

5:31

approach it the same way they approach

5:33

it as a business. And

5:35

so for City Lamb, he'll

5:38

be playing on this fifth year option this

5:41

season, which would be just just a tad

5:43

under eighteen million dollars. But he's

5:45

earned, he's earned a

5:48

long term deal, and so would

5:53

I report. I would probably

5:55

report. But the smart thing for him to do

5:58

is to hold out, like I'm not going I'm

6:00

not going to OTAs.

6:03

I'm going to everything that's mandatory. That's

6:05

me.

6:06

But in today's game, with what as much money

6:08

as these kids are making now, man, you

6:11

have to do what's best for you and approach it as

6:13

a business because they always approach

6:16

it that way.

6:17

I mean, the number is

6:20

going to be what the number is. I mean, that's just the

6:22

going rate for all star

6:25

wide receiver in this league.

6:27

That's just what it is now.

6:29

And from Dallas, I just I really just don't understand

6:31

it, because I mean, if you're the Dallas

6:34

Cowboys, we're talking about CD Lamb, he's

6:36

arguably your best player on

6:39

offense. We know what the numbers

6:41

are, we know what the Justin Jeffersons are looking for

6:43

the Jamar Chasers, all these guys

6:46

getting ready to come through the ranks. But

6:48

for Dallas Cowboys, without of cde Lamb, you

6:51

don't have an offense. So do

6:53

you think that you're going to try to set a

6:56

president in not negotiating

6:59

or trying to sign Cede Lamb to bring him

7:01

back to the Dallas Cowboys.

7:04

What are you gonna do?

7:05

Go out there and find somebody better. I

7:07

don't think that's gonna be the case at all, because

7:09

when we're talking about cde Lamb, he is easily

7:13

one of the top five players at his position, and

7:16

you just don't go into the draft or try

7:18

to get somebody in free agency because there's probably

7:21

only three or four, maybe two or

7:23

three guys in the world that are

7:25

better than him than what he does. So

7:28

if you're the Dallas Cowboys, what

7:30

else are you going to do? What else are you going

7:32

to do except sign them?

7:35

And the man?

7:36

Just like you said, DJ, the man has earned a long term

7:38

deal. And that's what these

7:40

players are doing. They listen, They

7:43

basically have all the leverage these days. And

7:46

not to say that he has not earned

7:48

it, He has earned the right

7:51

to say, you know what, I'm not

7:53

going to attend mini

7:56

camp. OTA's I

7:58

may be a hold out going in the training camp.

8:00

I just don't know.

8:02

But why wouldn't the Dallas Cowboys

8:05

not sit down with Ceedee

8:07

Lamb and his asient and try to rectify

8:09

this before these things go south.

8:11

I'm pretty sure he wants to stay in Dallas. He wants

8:13

to remain in Dallas. But for them

8:16

to not.

8:18

Exercise the option of giving this man

8:20

a long term deal, it just makes

8:23

no sense at all.

8:24

All right, Let's quickly transition into Michael

8:26

Parsons and the conversations

8:30

coming from within being.

8:32

Leaked supposedly allegedly.

8:37

That there are multiple people

8:39

more than people would imagine

8:41

that are basically saying that

8:44

he's become difficult to

8:46

deal with or whatever, and

8:49

that they wouldn't you

8:51

know, whoever these who they are people

8:53

are, they wouldn't have a problem if

8:56

Michael Parsons wasn't in the building as

8:59

a as a Dallas Cowboy

9:02

in the in the future, once he's uh,

9:04

you know, able to become a free agent

9:07

or something else may happen. I don't know,

9:09

I find out to be crazy. But what I mean what's

9:11

y'alls, what's y'all's take on that?

9:14

Trade them? Trade them? Then?

9:17

If you really feel that way, it's

9:20

almost Uh. I don't understand,

9:22

man, why these teams put

9:25

these narratives out there?

9:26

Man?

9:27

Because honestly, when

9:29

that story comes

9:31

out, why don't the

9:34

Cowboys get out in

9:36

front of that as soon as it comes out and says, oh, no,

9:38

no, no, no, no no, we don't have a problem with Michael. We

9:40

don't know where this is coming from. Why

9:42

have it Why has it been radio silence since

9:45

that report was

9:48

first leaked?

9:48

Why?

9:49

Why because now players can

9:51

do a podcast during the season. Why because players

9:54

can get their truth out, their story out

9:56

from their point of view, you don't have.

9:58

To go through them.

9:58

Why why I try to assassinate

10:02

the man's character in who he is

10:04

and oh, it's his act

10:07

is kind of just running thin.

10:08

It's wearing people out. Okay,

10:11

trade them, trade them.

10:14

If you don't like the way he's acting, trade them,

10:16

And if it's not true, come out and say

10:19

something to say that it isn't

10:21

true. Because you do it any other time,

10:24

You do it any other time, and so why not

10:27

do it now with your best player? He's the best

10:29

player on Dallas Cowboys offense

10:31

and defense. He's the best player on the team. And

10:35

so if you were to trade him, guess what you

10:37

can get a king's ransom for a guy

10:40

that has rubbed.

10:40

People the wrong way.

10:42

So if people don't like them, why

10:44

not get a king's ransom and get rid of a nuisance.

10:48

That's what I would do, right of course you

10:50

would, no, And so like I just

10:53

he's up for a huge contract. They're

10:55

gonna pay him. He probably the highest

10:58

paid defensive player ever in the history the

11:00

league. They're trying to lower

11:02

his value by assassinating his character and that's wrong.

11:06

Man.

11:07

We're talking about Michael Parsons. Yes,

11:10

we're talking about Michael Parsons and the possibility

11:13

of him not being a Dallas Cowboy.

11:16

He is one of those one

11:18

of these generational athletes

11:21

and players playing the defensive

11:24

end position that we have

11:26

seen over the last twenty years. Ar could

11:28

be one of the best right now. And

11:30

if you're Jared Jones, you have to be

11:33

halfway crazy if

11:35

you want to get rid of or part

11:38

ways with Michael Passons. It's

11:40

like you said to that you can get a Kings transformed.

11:43

But for the next ten years,

11:46

you'll probably be the worst team in the division. So

11:49

it makes no sense for us even to be

11:51

entertaining the fact that Michael Passs is

11:54

not going to be a part of this football team.

11:56

It's like you said, they

11:59

are trying to assess fascinate this man's character

12:01

because these contracts

12:04

that these guys are getting defensively or

12:06

who just signed the biggest contract as a defensive alignment?

12:08

Who was that? Bos

12:11

was the one I got? Yeah, Bosa?

12:14

And can we not sit here and say today

12:17

that you think that you don't think Michael

12:19

Parsons is a better player than Bosam.

12:25

You can make the argument either way. You

12:27

can make the argument. As long as you can make the argument,

12:30

then the argument is. The argument

12:32

is the argument. So let's just so let's

12:35

just stay there and say that.

12:37

If it's an argument, if

12:39

we have an argument that one

12:42

is one A and one is one B, then

12:45

the contract is what it is. Nobody's

12:48

going to be able to get away from giving

12:51

these guys these contracts because they

12:54

have created this themselves,

12:57

the players rightfully so, and

13:00

the owners to these players

13:03

are recognizing that, you know what, I

13:05

have an opportunity to

13:07

do something financially that

13:10

even when I started playing this game on coming

13:12

into this league.

13:13

It's even bigger than what I thought it was.

13:16

And these players are going to do everything

13:18

in their power to get everything

13:21

that they deserve. And Michael Parsons,

13:24

if Bosa is the highest played defensive

13:26

player in the league, then Michael

13:28

Parsons he needs to be right

13:31

there with them or being

13:33

paid more than a Bosa.

13:35

I'll say that's heading into the break Fellas.

13:38

Both topics put together, and a

13:41

conclusion coming from it is

13:44

this just speaks to what apparently looks

13:47

to be dysfunction, and the dysfunction

13:50

that you would say you equate to why a

13:52

team that has so much

13:54

talent can't win. You

13:57

go from you go from big

14:00

name player the big name player, and

14:03

it just seems like when you hear things like

14:05

this, if that's what's what's

14:07

coming from inside of the

14:10

offices of the facilities

14:13

of the team itself, take

14:15

Dallas out of the equation. If you're

14:18

hearing that from any team out

14:20

there or any organization out

14:22

there, that says total dysfunction

14:25

to me, why would you allow for

14:27

that, as you mentioned TJ, why would you allow for

14:29

that to be a narrative that isn't

14:32

combat.

14:32

It addressed immediately

14:35

upon hearing it, and it

14:37

wasn't.

14:38

So maybe they did it internally, but that still

14:40

doesn't do anything for those two young men externally

14:43

as it applies to how the fan base

14:45

and how the media are taking hold

14:48

of it. But it'd be interesting to see how that

14:50

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first let's visit the conversation

17:23

of OJ Simpson

17:26

passing away this

17:28

past week dies at seventy

17:31

six. I'm

17:34

just I'm trying to think of what

17:36

direction to take the conversation

17:39

in Fellas, and I guess

17:41

the most maybe most relevant one

17:45

would be, is OJ

17:47

Simpson the most despised

17:51

hated sports

17:53

hero that you can

17:56

think of in the history of

17:59

sports? Because I can honestly

18:01

say I have not heard

18:05

too much, if any,

18:08

narratives that would be considered

18:10

to be positive about

18:13

OJ Simpson. The biggest

18:16

story and the biggest conversation

18:19

point with OJ Simpson is

18:22

clearly and obviously the

18:25

double murders that took place, that he

18:27

was accused

18:30

of and found innocent of

18:33

doing it. Now, granted,

18:35

keep in mind, the burden of proof

18:37

is to prove that that's what you

18:39

did.

18:41

Without a doubt.

18:45

I think that's how you said, I don't know, but anyway,

18:47

it's not the fact that I

18:50

don't know. Anyways, I don't want to get into the legal jargon

18:52

of it all. Is this guy the most hated,

18:55

Like he's dead now, he died,

18:57

he passed away, and yet people

18:59

are are happy, They're

19:01

super happy that he's died. They're they're

19:04

they're right raveling and the

19:07

reveling and the idea of

19:10

him, you know, being

19:12

dead and having no sympathies towards

19:15

it.

19:16

Is this the right approach? How how do

19:18

you feel about it?

19:20

Man? This is this is tough, LeVar,

19:22

because when when you when

19:25

you talk about oh J. Simpson a football player,

19:28

one of the greatest running backs to ever play.

19:31

But it's hard to

19:35

just talk about oh J.

19:36

Simpson a football player without

19:39

bringing up and at least being

19:41

aware of what he went

19:43

to trial for Although

19:46

he was found not guilty, many

19:50

including myself, felt

19:52

he was guilty. I mean, you don't

19:55

hop in the Bronco and get

19:58

on the ninety one freeway. I mean he would rolling

20:00

right by my house. And

20:03

so if you don't do that, and

20:06

it sucks for the families

20:09

of the victims, his children, himself.

20:12

But he was found not guilty of it, and again

20:15

many people thought he was guilty.

20:17

And I felt like society

20:20

got him back when he ended up having to go to prison.

20:22

Although he was able

20:25

to come

20:27

out of prison and it looks like lead

20:29

somewhat of a productive life.

20:31

But when you.

20:33

Take the lives of two people, and again,

20:35

although he was found not guilty, this is just my opinion.

20:39

Man.

20:39

It's tough that when you hear that name,

20:42

that's the first thing I think about it. I don't even think about

20:44

the football player anymore. I

20:47

think about kids that don't

20:49

have their mother any longer

20:52

and parents that don't know they no

20:54

longer have their children, And

20:57

so that there is tough. It's hard

20:59

to uh think

21:01

of that name and

21:04

not have the empathy towards

21:07

those that were affected.

21:10

Man, it's it's kind of you know, uh,

21:13

you know, mixed emotions. I think all

21:15

across the board. I've

21:18

know, I've met Ojay and you

21:21

know, sat down and had conversations

21:23

with him. But but the

21:25

people, a lot, most of the people

21:28

that that I know

21:30

who are friends of oj You gotta

21:32

remember, like back in you know, his time man

21:34

they say as a hero.

21:36

You know, he was a hero.

21:38

He was more recognizable

21:41

than the president at one time based

21:44

off of you know, his college career at

21:46

USC Heisman Trophy and obviously

21:50

you know, being the first running back in history to run for

21:52

two thousand yards back in you

21:54

know the seventies, and you know, all of those things

21:57

and then you know, everything transpired. I think that

21:59

the the saddest part about it is that like

22:02

nobody got any closure, like

22:05

those people that were passed away,

22:08

and now you know, he has perished,

22:11

and it's just unfortunate that,

22:14

you know, I don't know who,

22:16

I don't have an opinion, but it

22:20

is a legacy of himself is what

22:22

it's going to be. It just depends on

22:25

you know, what side of the fence you are, you

22:27

know, with O. J. Simpson as

22:30

far as you know, just like you

22:32

said, TJ, like you know, everybody

22:34

has their own you know, speculation or

22:36

opinion of him, but he went to court

22:38

and he was felt not guilty, but that

22:41

would never be enough, I

22:43

feel like, so it's

22:45

kind of for me I have.

22:47

I had a chance to meet him and

22:50

sit down with him a few times man, and you

22:53

know, obviously I have some good conversations

22:55

with him. But at the end of the day,

22:57

I mean, just like you said, people, parents,

23:01

his legacy will go on as whatever

23:04

you portray it to be or however

23:06

you feel you know about

23:09

him, and that's what is

23:12

always going to be for Oj Simpson. It's

23:14

just this unfortunate

23:16

thing for him and in his family extended

23:20

family who are still living.

23:22

Those are the people that are going to have to live with that

23:25

and carry that on with them too, for the rest of their lives.

23:28

You know. The first thing I kind of when

23:30

I sat on when this happened, because I had

23:32

to talk about we were on air on two

23:34

Pros and a Cup of Joe when the well,

23:37

we were doing the Dan Patrick Show when the news

23:40

broke. Don't y'all find

23:42

it kind of strange that there

23:44

was never a very

23:47

very assertive effort

23:49

and attempt by Oj Simpson.

23:52

Two really really

23:55

clear up the

23:57

fact that he did not do it felt

24:00

like I mean, obviously,

24:02

again this is my opinion.

24:04

He felt like.

24:06

The trial was it cleared up everything

24:09

that that's what he felt. I mean, obviously, why

24:11

would he come out and say something because

24:14

he went.

24:14

To trial, because the world continued

24:18

to say exactly what you are saying

24:20

and saying the and

24:23

spewing the hate towards him that

24:26

that it did. Why wouldn't he make

24:28

an assertive effort to like,

24:30

why would you come out with books if I were

24:33

to do it type stuff? Like why were

24:35

these narratives coming out? I just

24:37

to myself, you were such a

24:40

major sports figure. You

24:42

were nicknamed the juice. Everybody.

24:45

Everybody knew who he was, Like you said,

24:48

plex, everybody was a

24:50

fan.

24:51

I mean him and Jim Brown

24:53

were one of the first two football

24:56

players that kind of turned into movie stars.

24:58

I mean he was a movie are brot?

25:02

Yeah, I mean he was on that level.

25:05

He was on that level.

25:07

The majority of society had

25:09

already formed an opinion prior

25:12

to the trial. They had already formed

25:14

an opinion he was guilty,

25:17

he did it. Why did he run? If

25:20

you not, if you're not guilty, you're not running

25:23

and so a lot of people

25:25

had already formed.

25:27

And by the way, another

25:31

another major piece of that is

25:33

he I mean, he had a gun and

25:35

was talking about he was going to end it.

25:38

You know what. You got a gun in the backseat of the car

25:40

for in the truck, and you're about to end

25:42

it.

25:43

And it's kind of crazy to me that, in

25:46

knowing that you had the opportunity

25:49

to have one of the most iconic legacies

25:52

connected to sport, you turned

25:54

into one of the most polarizing,

25:57

infamous people

25:59

maybe ever in the history of

26:02

sports. And I

26:04

just find it intriguing that

26:08

this is this is one of those those stories

26:10

where it's like this man just

26:13

died, like he just passed

26:15

away, And I don't

26:17

I almost feel like there

26:19

was like a collective sense of relief

26:23

that the man passed away. I don't know that

26:25

I've ever felt or heard or

26:27

experienced anything like this in

26:29

my entire life.

26:30

Hey, Lava, let me ask you something. Let me ask you a

26:32

question. Let me ask you a question. How do you feel

26:36

about the fact that, to

26:38

my knowledge, that not

26:41

one teammate that

26:43

he played with put

26:45

anything out on social

26:48

media about him

26:51

as being the man little football

26:53

player that they played with not one teammate

26:56

said anything.

26:57

What do you think about that?

26:59

I mean I did, and I didn't really see anything

27:02

coming out that outside

27:04

of like the obvious, like the family statements,

27:07

stuff like that. There was nothing positive

27:09

that came out about him. Nothing and

27:12

you could you could throw in there, like you know, contemporaries

27:15

like Marcus Allen, you know, different

27:18

things like that. You know, I

27:21

think that the Hosmotrophy posted

27:23

something which I thought was was

27:26

was crazy nice about about

27:28

that, But from a teammates

27:30

standpoint, not

27:33

one.

27:33

Because teammates knew him before

27:37

you played with yea in.

27:40

College and in professional and

27:43

nobody that had my man back

27:45

to say anything good about

27:47

him as a man or a football player.

27:52

I don't know.

27:53

I mean, I don't know if Marcus put something

27:55

on his story and I missed it, but

27:58

I know he didn't put nothing on his on

28:00

his I g about it. That

28:03

would have been the one I would have, you know, I

28:06

looked for and wanted to see what

28:08

that, what that looked like, what that represented

28:11

that that didn't take place.

28:14

I really feel like, I

28:16

really feel.

28:17

Like in this instant, in

28:19

this instance that again

28:23

I think the the over overwhelming

28:28

conclusion to his passing

28:31

was that people were relieved that

28:35

he was gone.

28:38

Like, that's crazy to me and

28:41

Laura.

28:43

That's exactly what it is. Yeah, mistake

28:46

about it because you're not the only

28:48

one. You have said it and put

28:51

it out for everybody here. You are exactly

28:53

right.

28:55

But when the majority of society believed

28:58

it was guilty, of course, that's

29:01

going to be the feeling

29:03

of most is Hey,

29:06

you.

29:06

Know what's crazy, TJ.

29:07

Not to step on you, but what's crazy

29:09

about what you continuing to say he

29:11

was he was, he did this and

29:14

he wasn't found guilty. You know what the craziest

29:16

thing is, I almost feel like if

29:19

if he had committed the crimes and

29:22

went to jail, people would have been

29:24

like, oh, OJ died this

29:26

and that. I think the fact that he

29:29

was found innocent, yes, and

29:31

was able at some point to actually walk

29:33

around as a free man and

29:36

enjoyed life. And it looked like he was living

29:38

it up too, Like you said, productive, it looked

29:40

like he was. He was just golfing

29:43

and talking talking what he's talking

29:45

his talk with Cameron and Mason,

29:48

Like it just seemed like the

29:51

fact that he got off and

29:54

you know how big of a star he was.

29:56

It's like some people actually

29:59

were in some cases bigger

30:02

than the law.

30:03

They were above the law.

30:05

And I would say that if there

30:07

was, you were drawing a conclusion just based

30:09

off of all of the given evidence that

30:12

we were we were because I mean, man, I was

30:14

in grade school when that happened.

30:17

I can't where that was at bro I can remember

30:19

this joint. Man, it divided the

30:22

entire country nineteen ninety

30:24

four. I'll never forget.

30:26

It turned into like black versus

30:28

white, white versus black.

30:29

I was first off, I was like, I'm

30:32

not in no black versus white,

30:34

white versus black thing over nothing

30:37

somebody else than done. Like this

30:39

was not no civil rights type

30:41

stuff going on. This was murder

30:44

Like is he innocent or is he guilty?

30:46

That's all I'm saying. I never understood why

30:48

it turned into a black white thing. And

30:51

you know, being black meant being

30:53

innocent, being being white meant

30:56

he was guilty. I never understood why

30:58

the narrative aren't so like

31:01

aggressively and violently

31:04

into this racial divide.

31:07

It was just a matter of did he do it

31:09

or did he not do it?

31:10

And it was like, I ain't gonna lie to you when

31:13

he was found innocent, and people

31:15

like, if you were black, you were celebrating

31:17

that he was innocent. If you were white, you were

31:20

just appalled at the fact that

31:22

he was was found innocent. I

31:25

was like, I was like walking around

31:27

nervous. I can remember

31:29

what I was ay

31:31

bad, Like I was like

31:34

it was open season on me, like

31:37

I ain't do it. I

31:39

can recall feeling like like

31:42

being nervous to be black because

31:44

OJ Simpson was

31:47

found innocent.

31:48

Man, it was a lot of things about that that I

31:50

didn't understand the time. I was what fourteen

31:54

fourteen or fifteen fifteen, No, it

31:57

was before then.

31:59

It was before. It was nineteen it was nineteen

32:01

ninety four. Was it ninety four?

32:04

Yes, I was fifteen nineteen

32:08

ninety I graduated. I thought it was he thought I

32:10

was. Man, you graduated high school.

32:12

Yes, something may maybe that's why it was worse.

32:14

Maybe we wise dang, Yeah we

32:16

were in high school. I was a sophomore in high school.

32:21

Yeah when it happened. Yeah, you

32:23

just thought you were younger than what you thought you were.

32:25

It's so long, hey, bro, that

32:28

I had I have what's that call post

32:30

traumatic syndrome.

32:31

Thirty years ago, thirty

32:34

eight. That's crazy man. All

32:36

right, let's get it, let's take a break. I think the conclusion

32:38

is the conclusion. I mean, it's it's

32:41

hard to kind of celebrate the man's life.

32:43

It's hard to celebrate the man's life. But

32:47

nonetheless, that's crazy man.

32:49

Whatever snide you fall on on O.

32:52

J. Simpson's passing, he passed

32:54

away at seventy six, once a football

32:56

like con turn an American

32:59

pariah of sorts of infamous

33:02

uh former athlete.

33:03

Uh.

33:04

And that's I guess that's that's how it ends,

33:06

uh, for for O. J. Simpson and

33:09

in his life and and his his legacy.

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33:53

Quick segment here, but I

33:55

wanted to ask you guys about Jared

33:57

goff Uh, taking aim at

34:00

the Detroit media, said that the Detroit

34:02

media quote relish and

34:05

negativity. I

34:07

find that to be interesting because sometimes

34:11

a city's personality is,

34:14

what's that?

34:15

Do we have sound on it? Oh? Perfect?

34:17

Perfect? Let let's listen to the sound on

34:19

it. I love to get y'all's response on it.

34:21

I have this, like I probably need to drop

34:23

it pretty soon here because I'm gonna hopefully be in Detroit for a

34:25

long time. But I have this thing with our local

34:28

media where like they they almost like

34:30

relish in negativity at

34:32

times, and maybe that's what gets clicks

34:34

and that's what sells. It's it's it's

34:37

no longer what they need to live in. Like,

34:39

hey, guys, like we have a good team, We've had

34:41

success, Like we can be happy about

34:43

that, we can celebrate that and not have

34:46

to write about how like we're constantly

34:48

the underdog, Like no, like teams are gonna

34:50

be gunning them for us now, like we won the division

34:52

and all that, and I'm probably overthinking

34:54

in my head just because it's the chip on

34:57

my shoulder and the the

34:59

competitor and me. But in that moment, I was

35:01

just giving that guy a hard time. I actually really like him.

35:04

How you guys feel about that.

35:07

I'm welcome to Michigan, Yeah, and

35:10

welcome to the Welcome to the city of Detroit, and

35:13

a lot of good things to talk about in

35:15

Detroit. That's just

35:18

that's just the reality

35:20

of life up there to three to

35:22

one three and on the east, on the east side

35:24

and the south side and the west side and everything

35:27

that they got going on. Now, over

35:29

the last couple of years, this Detroit Lines

35:32

football team has been

35:34

winning games, but the

35:37

thirty previous prior seasons

35:40

they've been absolutely awful. And

35:43

look at what in

35:45

this state, the state of the Detroit

35:47

Pistons right now. They

35:49

came with a ball game. It

35:51

used to be a hockey town. Back in the eighties

35:54

and the early nineties, it was Detroit Pistons. Now

35:57

you're talking about the media

35:59

in Detroit is all they

36:01

talk about.

36:02

Isaive. A negative, negative

36:04

is being negative?

36:06

Well, fix it and

36:08

and and in all actuality

36:10

and reality, the only way that you're going to fix it if

36:13

you be consistent and continue

36:16

to win and maybe hoist a

36:18

Lombardi one day. But until

36:21

then, the media,

36:23

they are going to be who they are. This

36:26

is Detroit. This is not Santa

36:29

Barbara, it's not Sonny Our's

36:31

beach. We're talking about Detroit.

36:35

So so, Jared Golf,

36:37

if you have a problem with the

36:40

media, go out and win

36:42

some football games and then

36:45

they will continue, hopefully

36:48

or maybe they say good things

36:50

about you and this football team.

36:53

The Detroit Lions have been They've

36:55

been a bad team for years now the

36:57

last couple of years are changing. That narrative

37:00

started because a Beat writer asks

37:03

Jared Goff prior to their

37:05

game against the forty nine ers, man,

37:07

are you guys concerned they have all this talent?

37:09

And Jared Goff is like, we have

37:11

talent as well, like we have quite

37:13

a few first team All pros, And

37:16

that bugged him that here

37:18

you are asking me about how great of a team

37:20

of forty nine ers are and you're

37:23

not talking about us, and you're not talking about

37:25

our players, and that that bugged

37:27

them.

37:28

But it's what you just said.

37:29

But the Detroit Lions have

37:32

historically been bad, the last

37:35

couple of years they've been good. If they continue

37:37

to win the narrative will

37:40

obviously it will change.

37:42

It will change, but you have to do

37:44

it.

37:45

And be consistent as a winner

37:47

as a franchise, and maybe you can

37:50

do that, then it changes.

37:52

Did But do you know that what.

37:53

Jared Goff just did to himself moving forward,

37:56

he has he put himself in a position

37:58

to have no change, go out and be

38:01

good or great or stella every

38:03

single weekend because what he just

38:06

said and put out that to the media that

38:08

right there is going to come back to bite

38:10

him during the season. Jared Golf

38:13

attacked the people, the same people

38:15

that he's going to want to support his team exactly,

38:17

and so the only way they're gonna support him now is

38:20

if you do well, you attack those people.

38:22

You better ball out. I

38:25

don't know.

38:25

I wanted to get your take on it perfect,

38:28

but we got to get to the break. Listen,

38:31

you gotta be willing to deal with guys who have

38:34

negative takes. It is just part of

38:36

the business, part of the game.

38:38

This is up on game.

38:40

This Fox Sports Radio Hour two is coming

38:42

at you. We're gonna start off the next hour with some Tiger

38:44

Woods talk. All right, make sure you stay

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tuned, and we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right

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