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The three spooked
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girls. Hey
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there, spooksters, and welcome back to another episode
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here on three spooked girls. My name is
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Jessica, and as always, I'm joined by my
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favorite ghoul friend, Tara. Hey,
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spooksters. Today is Thursday, and so
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we are doing a stabby here
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on the channel. This one is
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actually, it's March the four year
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anniversary of the victim's death. So
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it just kind of like, kind
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of fell into place. Today,
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we are going to be talking about
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the story of Amy Nicole Harwick. Her
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story has been in the news more
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recently, and you might know why
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when listening to this. So Amy Nicole
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Harwick was born on May 20th, 1981.
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So she and I are
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birthday twins, though she's older than
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me. And she was born in
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Sellerville, Pennsylvania, and she was adopted
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by Tom and Penny Harwick. And
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she has one sibling by the name of
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Chris. Amy loved music and she was
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this kind of like bubbly little beautiful
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girl and so it was very kind
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of contrast that she loved heavy metal.
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Like she was really, really into it. And
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she loved kind of macabre type things. So
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I think she would have fit in perfectly
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with us, Tara. For sure, for sure. An
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article actually, it was her obituary said that
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she was very comfortable in a mosh pit
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and just as comfortable she was dancing with
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her mom on stage with the Beach Boys.
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That's really cool. I love that. Friends
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and family say that she loved her
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family and this kind of made me think of
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you as well because best
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lay the intentions for this one. Favorite
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time of year was when she'd visit
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for something they called CBD, which was
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cookie baking day. I love that.
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Like her whole family, like her cousins, her
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aunts, her parents, her brother, his wife, whose
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name is Carrie and her niece and
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nephew, Madison and Aiden would all come together
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and they would bake cookies. She grew
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up in a really small town in
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Pennsylvania, Lansdale, like I said, Pennsylvania. And
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she graduated from North Penn High in
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1999. Her
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friends, like I said, said she stood out because
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we're from a small town. And so anything that's
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kind of like alt stands out a lot. So
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her friend was like, hey, after high school,
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you should probably move to California. And she
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did, she moved to Southern California
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and attended Cal Poly Pomona. She
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would obtain her master's in clinical
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psychology from Pepperdine. And this is where
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her life takes a really interesting turn.
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She would go on to get her
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PhD in human sexuality from the
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Institute for Advanced Human Study of
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Human Sexuality. Ooh,
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interesting, interesting. I
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would say that she definitely lived her, like lived
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a life for sure. While she was in college,
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she really wanted to make sure that she wasn't
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like accruing debt. So she took a bunch of
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odd jobs, some of them were modeling. But one
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of the things she did is she was a
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go-go dancer. So she would like go and perform
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at clubs. Like
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I said, she was also a model. And she really...
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did embrace her sexuality and she
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even modeled for Playboy. And she
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would go to the Playboy parties
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and she would do fire eating. That's
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fun. Right? So like she
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worked really, really hard. It seemed like
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she was really spontaneous and fun and
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just was like down for anything. And so she wanted
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to make sure that she had a cashflow for that and
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I can respect the hustle. She would go
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on to become a licensed marriage and family
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therapist and she would set up in
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West Hollywood or WeHo. She
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specialized in family counseling as well
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as sex counseling. So like she had like
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a versatile practice. In 2014, she authored a
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book called The
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Sex Bible for Women. She was like on
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a bunch of podcasts, but she also, this
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is something I found really interesting. She also worked with a
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project called Pineapple Support, which is a
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nonprofit organization that provides free or low
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cost mental health therapy for pornographic film
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actors, producers, or other people that work
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in the adult film industry. Oh,
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nice. I was like, that's
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really good. That could probably take a toll on
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your psyche. Like I said
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earlier, she was beautiful. She was like one of
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those women who had like that really pretty porcelain
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looking skin and the dark raven hair. She
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basically was like the pent up version
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of Snow White. Love that. So she
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would actually end up dating a few
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celebrities. She dated Crispin Glover, which
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you might not recognize the name, but the
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character that pops into my head as quick
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as, if you remember, in
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one of the Charlie's Angels movies, remember the guy
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that was like obsessed with like the hair? That's
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Crispin Glover. Oh, okay.
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She also dated Marilyn Manson and
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Dave Navarro. She dated quite the
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array of people, I should say.
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A variety. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And
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you're about to be like, what? This is about
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to get a little bit different. So
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while she was dating Marilyn Manson, she told him, hey, I want
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to go to dinner for my birthday. I want you to pick
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me up at six. Her friend Robert was like, he's not gonna
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pick you up at six. Marilyn Manson doesn't get even up before
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6 p.m. And she goes, fine. I
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Told him if he doesn't pick me up for dinner, I'm gonna
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go to a party. Have that have a my life
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anyone? And that's what she did.
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And she met a different fellow
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who I was like What? See?
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Matt? Drew Carey. random the comedian see of
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the house to have the prices ramp. She told
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him the story and he's like you shouldn't be
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like leave that early call It adds that
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you shouldn't be with someone who doesn't want to
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celebrate your birthday with him and with you should
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be with someone who's gonna. Take you so
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then like a few days later
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for their first official date area.
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Love that as he took her
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to Disneyland. Oh my god how
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kill a riot and they have
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like the Vip they and she
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said she was laughing. And having this
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great time with Ham the whole time. Soothing. Oh
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my gosh, this is so fun And I guess
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she may have mention that like she would love
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to do this with her friends. So he'd ten
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days after their first day, he brought her. And
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ten friends to designed all that's
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adorable. So like Robert. her from
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his name is Robert Hostile and
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he goes to Disneyland. Them home
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easing as bad as pretty litter.
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So they started dating. And I
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was like God for hard. Drew
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Carey seems great. Big kind of
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had a whirlwind relationship like they
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met in mid two thousand and
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seventeen. and basically by that time
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that Valentine's Day of Twenty eighteen
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rolled around, they were engaged. And
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six hundred sucked for them for a little bit
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because they got the keys in Paris. And they
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wanted to keep the relationship super private catholic
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see how like a booming business and it
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was interesting because in the documentary or and
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on the show that discover a D said
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they were like you know it's not a
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lot of places in America can you have
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a sex therapy off as but L I
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C had nonstop people. And so you
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know she was because of her blog,
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because of her notoriety, Because of all
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this stuff she had become like kind
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of her own celebrity. but people were
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like oh, she's just withdrew because of
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the money is that he was sixty
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nine and she. Was thirty six.
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So. People were like oh the age difference
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People are going online and calling her gold
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digger. that part made me really
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sad but she's also being like
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side basically a former friend of
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hers was going online and like
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releasing information that was not real
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information. Oh no. And
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so basically it forced Amy and
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Drew to come out because this former
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friend was going to sell an exclusive
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quote unquote story to the National Enquirer
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and the National Enquirer, they
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do this, they will like reach out to you
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and be like, hey, someone's gonna like release this
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information. If you want to beat them to the
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punch, beat them to the punch. So they
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did. So they gave an exclusive interview to
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the National Enquirer, which probably didn't help the
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whole like, she just did it for
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the money and the fame because it's a
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trashy tabloid. But they did. They gave an
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exclusive interview about that they got engaged in
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Paris. And then on the Valentine's Day
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episode of the Price is Right, Drew
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Carey brought her out and announced that he had
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a brand new shiny fiance. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah,
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I know. It was so cute. They
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seemingly had a really great relationship. Amy talked
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about it a lot. Like she was on
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this podcast with her like, I would I don't want
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to call it the illustrator, but like the photographer of her
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book and they were talking about it. And she goes, yeah,
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a lot of people thought I was just with him for
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money, but I wasn't. She's like, when you meet
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somebody and just like connect like that's that's
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it. And he was like so
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supportive of her, even though he like he's Drew
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fucking Carey. He had the Drew Carey show. He's
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a famous comedian. He's
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hilarious. Like he retired
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to do the Price is Right. I
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used to watch Whose Line is in Anyway all the time
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because that guy was hilarious. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Right. Probably when I learned all
9:34
my other singers and there was this like one time
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she was going to this event. It was called like
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Rock to Recovery. I think it was like a maybe
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like a concert, but she was like presenting at it
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and people were like, oh, my God, Drew, it's so funny.
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You're here presenting. And he's like, I'm not here. This is my
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partner. Like she's here
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to present. She's got a PhD. I'm just here to
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support her. Like I'm the plus one.
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And so he like really was
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very supportive of her, of her and what
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she was doing. And he often said to
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like. her friends and his friends, he kind
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of wished that he wasn't a celebrity because
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he wishes that he could just be with
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her and not have anyone watching them. Which
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I was like, that makes sense. He
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did not like the macabre thing. She was
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talking about her view in art, it was
10:15
this interview, and she's into taxidermy
10:17
shit. And
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he wasn't. But
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he was like, okay, I'll allow it because
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I love you and this is something you love, so
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why not, right? So
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I just thought it was so
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sweet. And one of the things that she got him
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into is they would go to graveyards together,
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like cemeteries, and walk around. That's fun.
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And so he was like, oh, this
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is really cool. It was really
10:42
interesting because their relationship didn't
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last that long. They broke up
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in late 2018. The
10:49
biggest thing with that was that, I
10:51
think Drew was off filming something, but
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she was home by herself for a
10:55
really long stretch of time, days or
10:57
weeks or something like that. And the
10:59
trespassers kept coming onto the property and
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they were stalking her. Scary.
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And she got really scared and that
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took a toll because of how public
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their relationship was. So I
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think that caused them to split. When they broke
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up, it was very amicable. They both were like,
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this is fine. Not like this is fine, but
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you know what I'm saying? They broke up and
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were like... Right, like good terms, yeah.
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But the relationship we're gonna focus on
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today isn't the good relationship she had with
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Drew Carey. By the way, if you watch that
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show, Dead by Fame or Dead by Fame, I'm
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just gonna say it first. You're like, are they
11:34
accusing Drew Carey of killing her? They are not.
11:36
Oh, good. I'm gonna have to watch this show.
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It was really good. I was like,
11:41
ooh, this is great. So basically she
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had an ex-boyfriend by the name of
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Gareth Pursehouse. And they dated for about
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two years in the late 2000s, like,
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you know, like 2008 to 2010 or something along there. It
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was really hard for me, like actually narrow down
11:55
the dates. They met when Amy was a bottle
11:57
girl at a club and Gareth was the...
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photographer there like you know if you go
12:02
to clubs they'll like take your pictures and
12:04
stuff he was that guy Mm-hmm, and so
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they met fun fact Gareth really wanted to
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be a stand-up comedian interesting But he wasn't
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good at it He went on this show
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called kill Tony and I don't really know like
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the whole thing that it's like there's a live
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crowd And there's like a panel of comedians and
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there's this guy Tony who's obviously the host and
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there's like a band So it's kind of like
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I don't know it looked really interesting and Gareth
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went on there, and they just like ate him
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alive Oh shit mind you he
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only put his first name He comes out
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real hot and is like he was like
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making fun of them something about like oh
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This is kind of like a industry event
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There's like half a band like some comedians
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blah blah blah and he's ago There's a
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full band when like kazoo pops out
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of the ground and like comes out
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singing out of Tony's mouth The
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host is just like what the fuck is happening?
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Yeah, and people are like I don't think people are
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laughing at Gareth I think people are laughing at the
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reaction that like that Tony's having and then they just
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start picking you apart They're like why only one name
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like and he goes well I have kind of a
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long last name and they're like well What is it
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and he's like it's purse house, and they're like those
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are two words we all know yeah It's
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not like my maiden last name Which
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tripped people up quite a bit, but you know I
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could look at that and be like oh, that's clearly
13:16
purse house Yeah, that didn't work for
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him Which also must have been like a
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sore subject with him later on when like
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Amy was with Drew Carey He's
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like a world-renowned comedian their
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relationship wasn't good by any
13:30
stretch like she didn't actually talk to
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her friends about it But like when he would
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be around like Amy was that type of person
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who just always had fun It was not like
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you would meet her and just become her friend
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a lot of her friends were For
13:42
guys and it was said that when Gareth
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was around her and like one of her guy
13:46
friends would come over He would like grab her and
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like try to make out with her like stick his
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tongue in her mouth Yeah, and she would be like
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oh my god. This is so weird and like kind
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of like push him away, and he was like marking
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his tear like that the words her
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friends used was that he was like
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trying to show everyone he was marking
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his territory. Oh my goodness, gross. Gareth
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was also abusive. One of the ways that they
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would do is they would get into like an argument
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in the car and he would either
14:13
be like arguing with her or sometimes he
14:15
would actually like physically like grab her and
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like be bashing her head into the
14:20
seat. Oh my god. Like
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it was abusive, abusive and because like this happens
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a lot with people who are in the therapy
14:27
fields as they meet someone and they see like
14:29
good in them and then they're like I can
14:31
fix them. So I don't want anyone to be
14:33
like why did she stay with him for two
14:35
years? People do things because they have their reasons.
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She would be like screaming let me out of
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the car, let me out of the car and
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he would pull over and push her out of
14:43
the car and then leave her, leave her stranded.
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Her friend Maricela Mendoza would say
14:48
he was extremely vindictive so if
14:50
like she would see him do
14:52
something or Amy would do something
14:55
that would piss him off and like he would
14:57
punish her for it. And they lived together for
14:59
two years and this kind of shit happened all
15:01
the time and eventually they did
15:03
break up and they had a friend who
15:05
was like a mutual friend like he worked
15:07
at like the same kind of clubs and
15:09
interactions that they did. His name is Rudy
15:11
Torres and Rudy said that like Gareth would
15:13
be like dude can you just like text her
15:16
for me? Like she's blocked me or she won't
15:18
talk to me and he's like no like just
15:20
let it go. He kept telling her to like let it
15:22
go or telling I should say he
15:24
kept telling Gareth to let it go
15:26
and he just wouldn't. He would like
15:28
send him text messages of like I'm
15:30
assuming YouTube links to songs that were
15:33
like super sappy and be like listen
15:35
to this song. Yeah it was weird like that
15:37
kind of stuff but he wouldn't let it go
15:39
and in fact I think it was like a
15:41
year or two after they broke up she went
15:43
to China to teach a class like one
15:46
of her classes and when she came home
15:48
she lived in an apartment in Sherman Oaks
15:50
and she said that Gareth had broken in because
15:52
like all her photo albums were gone. A bunch
15:54
of her framed pictures were like turned upside down
15:56
like face down or like upside down and her
15:58
computer had broken in. been wiped clean. So she calls
16:01
Robert her friend and is like, Hey, what the hell? Like, I
16:03
don't know what's going on. Can you come over here? And he
16:05
comes over and like he's like within seconds, like
16:07
he realized the operating system has been deleted
16:09
from her computer. Oh my god. Oh, by
16:12
the way, Gareth is a photographer and
16:14
a software engineer. Yeah, I
16:16
was gonna say he's obviously techy. Yeah, he has
16:18
the tools. And then it's weird. Because in the
16:21
next day, Gareth showed up and he was like
16:23
playing a love song declaring his love to her
16:25
like outside her house. And she's like, Get the
16:27
fuck away. But she never really truly felt safe
16:30
with him because of the fact that he
16:32
was techy. She kind of always felt like
16:34
he was like monitoring her accounts and stuff.
16:36
Like one of the things is in 2012,
16:39
she decided that she wanted to go
16:41
work at a prison. She was like,
16:44
I really want this job. And Gareth
16:46
found out and freaked the fuck
16:48
out because apparently like her going to work
16:50
at a male's prison is like intimidating for
16:52
him. He took her Playboy pictures, like some
16:54
of the ones that hadn't been published and
16:57
sent them to the prison. Oh, what
16:59
the fuck? What a psycho.
17:01
Oh my god. So she
17:03
thought her career was over. And that's like her
17:05
friend Maricela was like, why don't you just do
17:08
the sex therapy full time, like really dive into
17:10
it. And so she did. And this is where
17:12
she grew up. Because like before this point,
17:14
she was just doing marriage and family
17:16
counseling. Okay, that makes sense. After this,
17:18
like she was like, fuck this, I
17:21
have to get a restraining order on
17:23
this dude. And so she did. And she
17:25
got a restraining order. And it
17:28
was like a five year restraining order,
17:30
which expired in like 2000 and
17:32
like 17 or 18. Then
17:34
she has all the relationships with
17:36
like celebrities and Drew Carey. And then
17:38
she's back into doing her thing. So from like
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2018 to 20, like 2020, she's really doing
17:45
like her work and kind of coming into her
17:47
own. She would do these like seminars and people
17:49
would come but like she felt it was really
17:51
difficult at times because Amy was really pretty
17:53
like she was gorgeous. And like clients or
17:55
I call them fans would like show up
17:57
and just be like obsessed with her like
17:59
in her beauty. So it was like, it
18:01
would like derail her event sometimes. Yeah,
18:04
damn, that sucks. And because she
18:06
did the work with the like
18:08
the pineapple support, she would often
18:10
be recognized in the adult film
18:12
industry for her like contribution to
18:14
their like mental health on January
18:16
16 2020.
18:19
So like right before pandemic, she
18:21
went to something called the x
18:23
biz awards. And she's on the red
18:25
carpet, there's like, there's footage if you watch
18:28
the show on discovery plus, she
18:30
literally you can see the photos
18:32
of her and you can
18:34
see this interaction happen. So Gareth is
18:36
there. They haven't seen each other in
18:39
eight years. Basically, she was
18:41
like with a friend and the friend
18:43
stepped away. And he is like in
18:46
the line of photographers, right?
18:48
He has a camera, all of that. And he
18:50
just like steps out of the line and approaches
18:52
her and he starts like yelling at her mind
18:54
you she hasn't heard from him in like eight
18:57
to 10 years at this point, you know, like
18:59
it's been a minute. And so he starts screaming
19:01
at her, they kind of like walk down this
19:03
like off the red carpet, there was kind of
19:05
this like little sidewalk, which I think if the
19:07
red carpet or the orange carpet or whatever color
19:09
it was wasn't there, it would just be a
19:12
continued sidewalk and they kind of walk down there
19:14
and people are filming them right. So
19:16
they're still like looking down at them
19:18
and filming them down this like walkway
19:20
and he starts reciting old text messages,
19:23
text chains. What
19:25
a psycho. How do you remember
19:27
that? Exactly. Tarot, I can't
19:29
remember what I texted you earlier
19:31
today. No, the fuck. And
19:34
like he literally is like reciting his old
19:36
text and she's freaking out and then he
19:39
yells really loud, you ruined my life, bitch.
19:41
And she immediately goes into therapist mode
19:43
and like tries to deescalate it. He
19:46
falls to the ground in the fetal
19:48
position and is crying and having
19:50
a giant temper tantrum. Oh,
19:54
okay. And she wrote this
19:56
like, I don't know if it was in her diary or
19:58
like came
20:00
up behind me and started screaming, why are you here?
20:02
Why are you here? And then he was sobbing, his
20:04
head was in his hands, he
20:06
was hyperventilating, and he was distorting his
20:09
face up and shaking violently. What
20:11
the fuck? Right? Like, I think she
20:13
was texting Robert this, because Robert is literally
20:15
like her best friend. Like I said, she
20:17
just went into therapist mode to pacify him.
20:19
He was basically telling her that they were
20:21
still in a relationship. Oh, boy.
20:24
Yeah, like, basically saying to her that
20:27
like, it's not over between us.
20:29
And she could tell that he was jealous of
20:31
all these men. She told her friend Robert, like,
20:33
she and I was very scared. It terrifies me
20:35
that he's obsessed with me for nine years, that
20:37
he thinks about me every single day. So,
20:40
at this point, she's like, I gotta like,
20:42
figure out my security. Like, I gotta bolster
20:44
the shit up, right? Because this dude is
20:47
crazy. And I would think that he knows
20:49
where she lives. Oh, yeah. It's been nine,
20:51
and she's moved a bunch of times. Like,
20:53
he knows. Her and Robert come up with
20:56
this idea until she can get like, a
20:58
security system installed. She's gonna share
21:00
her location with Robert. So that
21:02
if she's ever like, non-responsive, he could
21:04
find her. So, we're gonna flash forward
21:07
to Valentine's Day 2020. Amy, the day
21:09
before, she reached out
21:11
to Drew and told her, you know,
21:13
because Valentine's Day is very special to
21:15
them because he announced on television their
21:17
relationship them being engaged. So, she reached
21:19
out to tell him how much she
21:21
missed him and she basically, they decided that they
21:23
were gonna meet up soon to like, hang out
21:25
and like, talk. Which I was like, oh my
21:27
god, that's so great because she had told Robert
21:29
how much she loved Drew. Like, I really do
21:32
think that it was like, they were the
21:34
right love. It's just like, they weren't ready
21:36
for it. So, she decided, hey, I've got
21:38
a great group of girlfriends. She took Valentine's
21:40
Day to a whole new thing. And so,
21:42
on Valentine's Day, she did like, a whole
21:44
day with like, different girlfriends. She got up
21:46
in the morning and she went for like,
21:49
a 6am sunrise hike. Tara, I love you
21:51
to death, but unless we're going to Disneyland, do not
21:53
expect me that early. Uh, no, I
21:55
don't want to do that either. Thank you. This
21:57
is why Tara and I work. We don't expect each other to be able
21:59
to- six and 30 in the morning to go for
22:01
a frickin' hike. I mean, that's you, good for you,
22:03
not for us. No, thank you.
22:06
Her and some friends went to the
22:08
Beachwood Cafe for breakfast, and then they
22:10
kind of just hung out around the
22:12
rest of the day, and then they
22:14
got ready. And that evening, they went
22:16
out to a burlesque show. It was
22:18
Miss Tash. It basically was a show
22:20
meant for single people, but also people
22:22
in relationships. It was a little mix
22:24
of it, but there was gonna be
22:26
bits and pieces of it. Amy wore
22:28
a super cute crushed velvet blush-colored dress,
22:30
and she was wearing a rosary bead
22:32
necklace, like a really long one, and the
22:34
necklace is very important. When Amy
22:36
was at the show, she had a roommate, so like Amy
22:38
lived on the third floor, and her roommate lived on the
22:41
first floor, and he was at home asleep. And
22:43
he woke up in the middle of the night
22:45
to this like loud noise, and he
22:47
just thought it was Amy coming home, and he
22:49
rolled over and went back to sleep. Amy,
22:52
then she's at the burlesque show, then she
22:54
leaves, but they don't go to like the
22:56
after-party of it. They decide to go to
22:58
Nomad and get tea, and then they were
23:00
there until a little bit after midnight, and
23:02
she pulls into her driveway and sends a
23:04
text to Robert. She sends photos of her
23:06
from Nomad, so she had snapped to Robert,
23:08
and it was like 1.02 a.m., and
23:11
basically she had said like, "'Oh,
23:13
I'm home, blah, blah, blah.'" And he's like,
23:15
"'Hey, there's this restaurant,'" because they were getting
23:17
ready to go on a trip to like
23:20
somewhere in the UK, and he was like,
23:22
"'There's this restaurant I wanna go to,'" and
23:24
she's like, "'That sounds great.'" And then she
23:26
enters her home, and according to what the
23:28
police say, she's not in there very long,
23:30
and she is viciously attacked in her third-floor
23:32
bedroom. Her roommate hears the screaming,
23:34
and he like immediately tries to like,
23:37
he gets up, he starts running up
23:39
the stairs, and he like
23:42
thinks he's like scared off the intruder,
23:44
and then he runs outside because he
23:46
can't find his phone. I don't
23:48
know like in this moment, like if you panicked, like if
23:50
you didn't have your phone or you couldn't find one, he
23:52
did the right thing because he ran over to like a
23:54
neighbor's house and was like banging on the door, but like
23:56
no one would answer, so he just kept running
23:58
down the street until he... finally found someone as
24:01
I get. 108, so she was like 102, she's
24:04
literally texting someone, goes inside.
24:06
At 108, he's like finally gets
24:08
through and calls 911. They
24:10
get there like a few minutes later
24:12
and they, you know, go into the
24:14
backyard because they go upstairs and she's
24:16
not there and they find her. She's
24:18
on the ground outside. She has severe
24:20
injuries with like deep marks
24:22
on her neck from signs of
24:25
being strangled and she had
24:27
head injuries from her fall. So she
24:29
was rushed to Cedar Sinai Medical
24:31
Center Hospital, but unfortunately
24:33
she would end up losing her life and
24:36
she was pronounced dead at 3 26
24:38
a.m. So the police look at
24:40
her and they immediately realize like the
24:43
bruises on her neck. That's from like
24:45
manual strangulation. That's not like
24:47
she hit that on the way down.
24:49
They were like what the fuck happened?
24:52
And so they go into her room
24:54
and they can see from like basically
24:56
right inside her bedroom door. There's like
24:58
beads that lead out towards the balcony
25:01
and they're the rosary beads she was
25:03
wearing earlier that night. When they get
25:05
outside on the balcony, they find a
25:07
syringe that's filled with liquid and when
25:10
they do a test of the liquid,
25:12
it is nicotine. It's a lethal dose
25:14
of nicotine. Oh shit. I was like
25:16
damn, literally on
25:19
the thing. They were like there's no
25:21
reason to have a syringe of nicotine
25:23
of that potency unless you're gonna
25:25
kill someone or yourself. Right. And
25:27
Amy didn't have a drug problem.
25:29
She didn't even smoke. I mean
25:32
she drank but she didn't like you know
25:34
use drugs or smoke. Right.
25:36
They are like oh my god. So
25:38
then they call Robert who's her best friend
25:40
is also the last person she text right.
25:42
So they bring him down to the police
25:44
station and like her roommate had given him
25:47
like a heads up like hey the police
25:49
are gonna call you because something's happened to Amy. I
25:51
don't know if the roommate knew what had happened but this
25:53
is about nine o'clock in the morning when Robert gets down
25:55
there and they start investigating and start interrogating him
25:57
a little bit and he's like oh my god.
26:00
God, what I don't know what's going on.
26:02
And then as he's sitting in there, another
26:04
police officer comes in and basically informs them
26:06
that Amy has passed away. And Robert kind
26:08
of rightfully so falls apart. And then
26:10
they were like, Do you know anyone
26:12
who would want her harmed or dead
26:14
and Gareth Pursehouse name could not come
26:16
out of his mouth faster. He was
26:18
like, Oh my god, this dude, and
26:20
he began to spill the tea on
26:22
the eight years of like craziness, the
26:24
computer wiping all that shit. And they
26:26
were like, Okay, he tells them the
26:29
story about how they ran into each
26:31
other in January, and all this shit.
26:33
And so the police are like, Okay,
26:35
they literally go and get him. They
26:37
arrest Gareth 13 hours after
26:40
she's been attacked. That's like
26:42
the fastest they did call Drew,
26:44
you know, he's an ex-boyfriend. And
26:46
they look into this, but he
26:48
was like the only contact we've had in
26:50
such a long time is that text. And
26:52
I was looking forward to seeing her and
26:55
they were like, Oh, okay. Robert called him
26:57
to tell him and he told 48
27:00
hours that basically it
27:02
felt like his feet, like he could
27:04
barely see on his feet, like his feet got knocked
27:06
out from underneath him. He was like, so shooken up at
27:08
that, which I was like, that makes total sense. So
27:11
Gareth is arrested, and
27:13
he's arraigned and he is arrested
27:15
for murder and burglary. And he is
27:18
set with a $2 million bail.
27:20
Well, you only have to have 10%
27:22
of the bond in California and Gareth
27:24
makes bail. Amy's cause of death, like
27:27
I said, is manual strangulation and
27:29
blunt force trauma from her fall.
27:31
So that's not one without the
27:34
other. They find Gareth DNA under
27:36
her nails. He also has scratch
27:39
marks on his face and a bruised
27:41
like left eye like he's got a
27:43
little black eye going on. So he
27:45
makes bail on January 19. And
27:48
Maricela was like really afraid because
27:50
she's visibly shaken up in the
27:52
documentary, because she's like, he knew where I
27:55
lived. And he knew that I knew about
27:58
him and Amy. So she like in panic
28:01
mode but Gareth violated his bail conditions.
28:03
Basically in your bail especially with something
28:05
that high you can't even be near
28:07
an airport. It looks like you'd like
28:09
live like near an airport but like
28:11
he was caught near LAX and they
28:13
were like he's gonna try to fucking
28:15
flee. So on August 18th
28:17
he pled not guilty. Now because
28:19
the pandemic had happened he basically
28:21
had to wait such a long
28:23
time. He has his first preliminary
28:25
hearing in 2021 and he basically
28:27
at that point in time
28:31
his lawyers say that he didn't
28:33
kill Amy that she fell off
28:35
the balcony by accident and the
28:37
judge was like no no there's
28:40
manual strangulation involved in this
28:42
try again. Right. They sent
28:44
them back. The deputy district
28:46
attorney Catherine Mariano said it
28:48
became very clear to me
28:50
that Prithhouse's obsession drove
28:53
him and his intent to kill
28:55
her. I mean from the timeline
28:57
he was in her house for
28:59
several hours. Oh yeah. It
29:01
wasn't like he broke in at like 12 20
29:05
and she showed up at one o'clock. Right. He
29:07
would like it had been like
29:09
at least two hours and then
29:11
basically they described what happened in
29:13
their opening statements and they
29:15
said basically he strangled her and then lifted
29:17
her over the balcony and dropped her to her
29:19
death. The defense said
29:21
that basically he after seeing
29:24
her in January, oh talk
29:27
about victim blaming Tara, after seeing
29:29
her in January he got into
29:31
a deep debilitating depression and just
29:34
wanted to talk to Amy. That's
29:37
what they all fucking say. They all
29:39
say I just want to talk. No
29:41
you're a fucking psycho. Right. His only
29:43
intention that night quote unquote was to
29:45
speak to her according to his attorneys.
29:48
Now a really interesting
29:50
thing is when Garret was
29:52
arrested he wasn't alone. There was
29:54
a woman who he had
29:56
met on Tinder a few weeks before
29:58
and And she had ridden
30:01
a bike over to his house, and he was
30:03
like doing construction, so they were like hanging out,
30:05
and she said that his house was really disheveled.
30:08
So she actually helped organize his
30:10
house. He then changed his
30:12
clothes, and then they left. And
30:15
as they're leaving and backing out of
30:17
the garage, there's a bunch of cars
30:19
blocking his driveway, and then the cops
30:21
show up and arrest him. Like they
30:23
literally left her sitting on a curb
30:25
for two hours where they processed the
30:27
scene. And it was interesting because it
30:29
was so weird. I watched her testimony.
30:31
It wasn't in the documentary. I just watched it on
30:33
YouTube. And it was almost like
30:35
she was mad that she had to testify
30:38
against Gareth. And I was like, girl,
30:40
I'm sorry, but if you'd only been
30:42
on a few dates with this dude
30:44
and he turned out to be a
30:47
murderer, count your fucking blessings. Because
30:49
in the defense, basically, I tried to
30:51
say that Gareth was so depressed that
30:53
he'd actually gone there to use the syringe
30:55
on himself and was going to kill himself
30:58
in front of her. That's not traumatic at
31:00
all or stable. And I think they
31:02
were trying to basically like use the narrative
31:04
like he wasn't in his right mind. I
31:07
don't think I think he was there to
31:09
kill her because I think he was like,
31:11
shit, this chick has definitely moved on. If
31:14
I can't have you, no one will. That's
31:16
exactly what it was. Oh, a thousand percent.
31:19
And the jury would agree with you. His
31:21
trial began on August 29, 2023. And
31:25
on September 29, 2023, he was convicted of her murder. And
31:29
on December 6, 2023, he
31:31
was given the life sentence without the
31:33
possibility of parole because he lives in California.
31:35
And what is the point of the death
31:37
penalty? Because this could be a death penalty
31:39
case. Because of the fact
31:42
that he's laid in wait for her,
31:44
it qualified in the circumstances to be
31:46
a death penalty case in California. So
31:49
this is a story. I hadn't even heard of this.
31:52
And I was just like, oh, you
31:54
know, our Thursday episode is coming out
31:56
right after Valentine's Day. I
31:58
want to like do a Valentine's Day. So I
32:00
typed it in, the story came up, and I was
32:02
like, holy shit, and the fact that it would go
32:04
live on the four year anniversary
32:07
of this event happening. So with
32:09
that, we're gonna end today's episode, and
32:11
we will be back on Monday with
32:13
another one. Bye guys, toodles.
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