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This episode we talk about an abnormally
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hot April and the upcoming heatwave. We
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all to talk about the Bjp dropping
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bridge portion shudder to think and fielding
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his son current motion sensing from the
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guess a good seat. But.
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First, we talk about Astra Zeneca.
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Admitting that it's Covert Nineteen vaccine
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always shield can cause blood clots.
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Hi I'm to Had a gun under a
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new else. Been developing the The and Express
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News show. The
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global pharmaceutical giant as trials then Car
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has for the first time admitted that
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it's Corbett Nineteen Vaccine or We Shield
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could cause low platelet count and the
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formation of blood clots in very rare
1:15
cases. The. Company's facing a
1:17
class action lawsuit over allegations
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that it's over nineteen vaccine
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development collaboration with the University
1:24
of Oxford cause fatalities and
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serious injuries including thrombosis and
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thrombocytopenia syndrome. During. The pandemic
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Astra Zeneca had licensed it's vaccine formula to
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the Cinnamon Suit of India based in porn
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A for the production of or We Shield
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which was one of the to vaccines administered
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in India against. Go with nineteen to know
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more about this and the extent to which
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those who to call me Shirley should be
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concerned me speak to an end expresses and
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will not. that. I'm. Not going
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to begin my telling us what Astra
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Zeneca has said regarding the over nineteen
1:55
vaccines that they produced. So. basically
1:58
the news has come to for
2:00
right now after there were
2:03
reports from British courts that
2:05
the drugmaker AstraZeneca, which markets
2:08
the Oxford vaccine for COVID-19,
2:10
said that the vaccine is
2:13
known to cause in rare
2:15
instances particular side effects known
2:17
as thrombosis with
2:20
thrombocytopenia, which in short is
2:22
known as TTS. And
2:25
for those who might not know what that
2:27
is, can you tell us what exactly
2:29
is TTS and how does
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it impact the body? So, basically,
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TTS is a very peculiar
2:35
condition, it's not something that
2:37
is seen commonly in which
2:40
the body starts forming
2:42
clots along with a
2:44
dip in the platelet
2:46
count. So, of course,
2:48
otherwise also with COVID,
2:50
the infection itself, clotting
2:53
is known to go
2:55
up in people. But this
2:57
particular kind of clot that
2:59
has been associated with the
3:01
COVID-19 vaccines that leads to
3:04
these clots being thrown into like
3:06
different parts of the body, which are
3:08
not commonly seen. So, you would see
3:11
a very peculiar presentation in the brain
3:13
as well. And that's
3:15
how it was apparently first noticed
3:17
because doctors started seeing these clots
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which are not very commonly seen
3:22
in people. And in this
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regard, were there any fatalities that were reported?
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So, the thing
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is TTS is actually quite fatal.
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I mean, of course, it's not
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that everybody who gets
3:35
it would die, but a
3:37
significant number of people do. So,
3:40
for example, in India, I
3:43
actually went through the data that has
3:45
been put out by the A EFI
3:47
committee, the committee that looks at adverse
3:49
events following immunization. And
3:51
according to the data, the last of
3:53
which was released in June 2023, there
3:56
have been at least 36 cases. which
4:00
have been directly linked to
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vaccination with Covishield so
4:05
far and in 18
4:07
of them people have died. And
4:10
Anona, since there was such a
4:12
serious side effect of the vaccine,
4:14
were there any warnings given before
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the vaccine was administered? So,
4:18
the thing is initially when the vaccination drives
4:20
were rolled out, which happened, the first shots
4:22
I think were given in December 2020 in
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the US and
4:27
you know, at a similar time probably
4:29
in European countries. So, the
4:32
thing is initially, of course, we
4:34
did not know about this side effect at
4:36
all. It did not show up
4:38
in the trials. However, within a
4:41
few months of the vaccines being
4:43
administered, this rare side effect was
4:45
noticed and I think around
4:47
mid 2021, which
4:50
is when the vaccination drive
4:52
was picking up in India,
4:54
the companies actually started writing
4:57
about this side effect TTS
4:59
in their package inserts. So,
5:01
Covishield, which is manufactured by
5:04
SII, Serum Institute of India,
5:06
also started carrying this mention
5:08
of TTS and that the vaccine
5:11
shouldn't be given in people who
5:13
have had clotting episodes before or
5:15
have autoimmune diseases, started
5:18
coming up by about mid 2021
5:20
when the vaccination drive was being
5:23
scaled up. But what
5:25
a lot of people allege is
5:27
that these package inserts were not
5:29
something that they could read or
5:31
see with the vaccination
5:33
campaign, you know, the single bottle
5:36
containing several doses, which were given
5:38
one after the other two beneficiaries. So,
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Anona, what does this mean for the
5:43
Indians who were administered shots of Covishield?
5:45
Should they really be concerned about this?
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Not at all. So, first
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of all, this TTS happens
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after the vaccination, soon after. So,
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it would happen within about three
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weeks to a month of vaccination.
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vaccination. It cannot happen 2
6:02
years post vaccination. So, people who've
6:04
taken the shots in 2021 or
6:06
2022 need not worry about it
6:08
at all. It won't happen now.
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However, even at that time,
6:13
at the height of the pandemic, and
6:15
we spoke to several public health
6:18
experts and people who were there
6:20
in, you know, remedies that were
6:22
looking at implementing COVID
6:25
vaccination, they said that even
6:27
at that time, the benefits
6:29
of vaccination actually outweighed the
6:31
risk of TTA. You know,
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this complication was first noticed a
6:36
few months into the vaccination
6:38
campaigns, which were started in
6:40
Europe. And these are quite
6:42
rare, so it didn't show up in
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the trials. We started seeing these
6:47
rare side effects only once the
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vaccine was given to a large
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number of people, but that
6:53
just shows that it is quite a
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rare condition. Of course, it
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is fatal to some people, but
7:00
at a time when, you
7:02
know, so many people were dying
7:04
of COVID-19, there was a
7:06
need for vaccination to prevent the
7:08
disease. But yes, you cases of
7:11
vaccine related deaths have been
7:13
reported. And what are
7:16
medical experts saying now that AstraZeneca
7:18
has admitted to these side effects?
7:21
So what experts do say
7:23
is that there is a
7:25
case to be made for, you know,
7:28
not giving this vaccine at a younger
7:30
age group, which is what a lot
7:32
of European countries did. They said that,
7:35
you know, either like below the age
7:37
of 45 or 60 years, especially women,
7:39
because these cases are seen mostly in
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women and younger women. So the experts
7:44
said probably in this age
7:46
group, we could have recommended that they
7:48
take the other vaccine, which
7:50
for India was a CO vaccine,
7:52
but in European countries, a lot of
7:55
people took the mRNA vaccine instead
7:57
of the Oxford vaccine. And
8:00
Anuna, what does all of this
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mean for AstraZeneca? What kind
8:04
of consequences can we expect the company to
8:06
face? So what
8:09
the petitioners have said in
8:11
and what we've read from
8:14
UK Dailys is that this
8:16
admission that yes, the
8:18
TTS events are linked
8:20
to the vaccination might open
8:23
doors for multi-million pound
8:25
settlements in the UK. Of
8:28
course, people who faced this in
8:30
India would not be able to join
8:33
the class action lawsuit that is going
8:35
on in the UK, but there have
8:37
been people who are now saying
8:39
that they would sue the company even
8:42
in India. And
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next we talk about the scorching heat wave that
8:50
has been gripping the country. April
8:52
of this year was marked by unprecedented
8:54
heat. According to the data
8:57
from the India Meteorological Department, heatwave conditions
8:59
were present for 26 days
9:01
across the country ranging from small
9:04
pockets to large geographical regions. While
9:06
the Southern Peninsula and South Eastern
9:09
coastal areas bore the brunt of
9:11
the heatwave, the Northern Plains have
9:13
remained relatively unaffected by the extreme
9:15
temperatures this season. To understand
9:17
the reasons behind April's intense heat,
9:19
the criteria for IMD's heatwave assessments
9:22
and what we can expect in
9:24
the coming month, Indian Express's Anjali
9:26
Marar joins us. Anjali,
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which states and regions of India
9:31
are typically more prone to heatwaves?
9:34
So in India, there is an
9:36
area known as core heatwave
9:38
zone and this is largely
9:41
an area that covers Gujarat,
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Rajasthan, Chandigarh, Haryana, Delhi, Punjab,
9:45
Madhya Pradesh, parts of Maharashtra,
9:47
Bihar, West Bengal, Andhra Pradesh.
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So largely the Central India
9:51
and Northern Plains, all the
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way from Gujarat to West
9:55
Bengal, are the most heatwave-prone
9:58
zones in the country. And
10:00
when does the India Material Logical Department
10:02
declare a heat wave? What
10:05
are the conditions that it looks for? So,
10:07
the IMD has set parameters
10:09
or set criteria of temperatures
10:11
following which the heat wave
10:14
is declared. So, this
10:16
categories are for three regions that
10:18
is planes, hilly regions and the
10:20
coast. And for each of these
10:22
geographical regions, the temperature thresholds are
10:24
different. So, for instance in the
10:26
plane, if the maximum temperature, the
10:28
actual maximum temperature process 40 degrees
10:30
Celsius, then the heat wave attempt,
10:32
the IMD attempts to declare a
10:34
heat wave or if the recorded
10:36
temperature departure from the normal is
10:38
more than 4.5 degrees Celsius, then
10:41
the IMD declares a heat wave
10:43
along the planes. Likewise, the same
10:45
threshold was different for the coastal
10:47
areas and the hilly areas.
10:50
Hilly areas it is 30 degrees and
10:52
the coastal areas it is 37 degrees. So,
10:54
depending on which location a heat wave
10:57
has to be declared, these criteria are
10:59
applied. And in any case, if the
11:01
maximum temperature exceeds 47 degrees Celsius, then
11:03
a severe heat wave is declared regardless
11:06
of where the location is. Right.
11:08
And what has the IMD said about
11:10
why April was so much hotter than
11:13
it usually is? So, in
11:15
the summer forecast for April, IMD
11:17
was capable enough to forecast well
11:20
in advance that April will be
11:22
warmer than what previous years have
11:24
been. That is primarily because 2024
11:28
is an El Nino year and
11:30
during El Nino years, it is
11:32
well known that the temperatures, the
11:34
summers are harsher, wherein there can
11:37
be chances of intense heat wave
11:39
spells, so which was realized during
11:41
April. And Anjali, you
11:43
mentioned the weather phenomenon El Nino. Can
11:46
you explain what that is? The
11:48
El Nino is a naturally occurring
11:50
oceanic phenomenon with a resurgence frequency
11:53
anywhere between 2 and 7 years.
11:56
El Nino conditions refer to the
11:58
above normal sea surface. of his number of each
12:00
other recorded along the equatorial
12:03
Pacific Ocean. The years when
12:05
El Nino conditions prevail, several
12:07
studies have shown that El
12:09
Nino is capable of suppressing
12:11
Indian summer monsoon and
12:13
also triggering harsher summers and
12:16
intense heat waves over India.
12:18
The ongoing El Nino began in
12:21
June 2023 and it peaked
12:23
during December as per the latest
12:25
forecast by IMD and the global
12:27
models. Moderate El Nino
12:29
conditions are prevailing and over the next couple
12:32
of months, it is expected
12:34
that the El Nino conditions
12:36
shall completely abate and be
12:38
replaced by neutral ENSO conditions.
12:40
Okay, so El Nino
12:42
was one factor. What are the
12:44
other reasons that April was so hot? So
12:47
another reason what the
12:49
IMD predominantly attributed such
12:52
warm April was the
12:54
persistent presence of anti-cyclone
12:56
system close to the Andhra
12:58
Pradesh coast. So one can imagine a 1000 to
13:01
2000 kilometer in size
13:03
system located over Andhra
13:05
Pradesh and this
13:07
anti-cyclone system which is a high
13:10
pressure system is able to push
13:13
air from top on
13:15
towards land and this is
13:17
called as a process called air subsidence.
13:20
Due to this air subsidence, it
13:22
so happens that the temperature closer to
13:24
land increases and second
13:26
prominent reason which the med department
13:28
has attributed is because of the
13:31
presence of anti-cyclone over many days
13:33
during April, the direction of a
13:35
breeze was mostly from land towards
13:38
the sea. So there was
13:40
no way that the cooling was happening. In
13:42
normal circumstances, the coastal regions benefit
13:45
from sea breeze from time to
13:47
time. So the school sea breeze
13:49
blows onto the land and keeps a check on
13:51
the temperature, but this time it was the worst.
13:54
It was land breeze which was going from land
13:56
towards the sea which is why southern peninsular India,
13:58
East India, and the South India. coastal
14:00
India suffered from prolonged heatwave
14:03
conditions and overall the country
14:05
did experience very hot summer
14:08
which was beyond normal. And
14:11
Anjali, can you tell us how high
14:13
were the temperatures this April in comparison
14:15
to those in the past? So
14:17
April was warmer in many
14:19
areas of the country. As
14:22
stated before, Southern Peninsula recorded
14:24
or experienced the second warmest
14:26
April since 1901 and breaching
14:28
the normal temperatures of 35.89
14:30
degrees maximum temperature, the Southern
14:34
Peninsula instead recorded 37.5 degrees
14:36
making it the second warmest
14:38
April. Likewise, even the minimum
14:41
temperatures were on the higher
14:43
side over Southern Peninsula. So
14:45
particularly I would say that
14:47
Southern Peninsula and Northeastern India,
14:49
it was much warmer than
14:51
otherwise what it would receive.
14:54
Anjali, we are now entering the
14:56
peak summer months. What prediction has
14:59
the IMD made regarding them? So
15:02
coming to forecast which was released on 1st
15:04
of May, the med department has not
15:07
had any great news to share.
15:09
It has predicted summer temperatures to
15:11
be continuing to be remaining above
15:14
normal even during May and prolonged
15:16
heatwave conditions are also predicted. And
15:18
this time in May, if April
15:21
the record temperatures were mostly limited
15:23
to Southern Peninsula or Eastern India,
15:25
now slowly the temperatures are going
15:27
to rise also in Northern India.
15:30
So as a result, harsher
15:32
summer days are awaiting
15:34
Gujarat, Rajasthan, Delhi, Haryana,
15:37
Chandigarh, Vidarbha region of Maharashtra, Madhya
15:39
Pradesh, West Bengal, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh,
15:41
Tamil Nadu and this is also
15:43
because summers over India peaks during
15:46
the May month. So heatwaves have
15:48
been predicted which can last as
15:50
long as 8 to 11 days
15:53
whereas the normal heatwave days in May as
15:55
per IMD is 1 to 3 days.
15:58
And Anjali, our heat heat waves becoming frequent
16:01
and summers getting warmer since the
16:03
last couple of years? We
16:05
will not be in a position to say if heat
16:07
waves are increasing or so but
16:10
definitely what the med department says
16:12
that heat wave intensity and the
16:14
duration of heat waves has definitely
16:16
been increasing in the recent years.
16:19
So for the same year like
16:21
for example in the current year
16:23
Odisha has been reeling under heat
16:25
wave conditions since April 15 and
16:27
today is the 18th day of
16:29
being under heat wave. Similarly the
16:31
Gangetic West Bengal region also has
16:33
been reeling under heat wave for
16:36
15 continuous days. So if not harsher
16:38
heat waves but we can say the
16:40
heat wave intensity and its duration definitely
16:42
has gone up which means that you
16:44
feel the summers are more intense and
16:47
maybe this is going to be a
16:49
trend and especially during early no years
16:51
it is a well-known fact that
16:53
there are intense and prolonged heat
16:55
waves. Right and could
16:57
you talk about the kind of impact that
16:59
heat waves have on the human body and
17:02
what kind of precautions people should be taking?
17:05
So heat waves can be fatal
17:07
if one doesn't take precautions and
17:10
especially for those people who fall
17:12
under the vulnerable category like infants,
17:14
elderly people or those who work
17:17
outdoors throughout the farm laborers
17:19
or construction workers. So
17:22
there are certain categories of people
17:24
because of their work nature can
17:26
be more vulnerable to heat related
17:28
ailments. So it is always advisable
17:30
and the doctors and the met
17:33
agency always advises one to of
17:35
course follow the forecast but
17:37
overall it is suggested that
17:39
one must stay sufficiently hydrated
17:42
and one must not step out
17:44
outdoors especially during heat wave events
17:46
or such extreme temperatures particularly between
17:48
12 noon and 4 pm unless
17:50
it is absolutely a necessity to
17:53
step outdoors. Then wearing light
17:55
colored clothes and cotton clothes will always
17:57
help you stay cool in such warm.
18:00
summer months and exposure
18:02
to such very high temperatures and heat
18:04
must be avoided or one must always
18:06
take all these precautions in order to
18:09
stay healthy and not suffer from
18:12
heat related ailments. And
18:18
in the end we talk about the BJP
18:21
fielding Karan Bhushan Sharan Singh from the Kesar
18:23
Gan seat. The BJP yesterday
18:25
named Karan Bhushan Sharan Singh as a
18:27
slop Sabha candidate from the Kesar Gan seat
18:29
in Uttar Pradesh replacing his
18:31
father and incumbent MP, Prabhushan
18:34
Sharan Singh. The former
18:36
president of the Wrestling Federation of India
18:38
is currently facing allegations of sexual harassment
18:41
leveled against him by six women wrestlers.
18:44
The move retains the seats contest within
18:46
the family highlighting the influence of the
18:48
Thakur leader and six-time MP in the
18:51
region and in the party. Meanwhile
18:53
the ruling party also named Dinesh Pratap
18:55
Singh as the candidate from Raibh Rili
18:58
constituency which was won by the
19:00
former Congress president Sonia Gandhi in 2019. Sonia
19:04
who won from the Gandhi-Slande Bastion
19:06
size consecutive times was elected to
19:08
the Rajya Sabha unopposed from Rajasthan
19:10
earlier this year. Yesterday's
19:12
announcement comes even as the Congress
19:15
continues to take an unusually long time
19:17
to name its candidate for the traditional
19:19
Nehru Gandhi family seats of a methi
19:21
and Raibh Rili. Sources claim
19:24
that the party leadership wants both Rahul
19:26
and Priyanka to contest and has not
19:28
shortlisted any other name for the two
19:31
seats as the last-minute discussions are on
19:33
full swing. The deadline to
19:35
file nominations for a methi and Raibh Rili
19:37
is today. These seats are going
19:39
to polls in the fifth phase on 20th
19:41
of May. You
19:45
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