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i'm
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available
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Mom,
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kick the ball.
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I grew up playing soccer.
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My
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mom hated when I called it that. I
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can't see you. That's okay. She called
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it for boys. I
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love it. On Christmas, my
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daddy brought me my soccer
0:47
ball and my punch. It's
0:49
Christmas day. I'm nine, and
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I can't get the ball past my mother. She
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does not
0:54
care that I'm a kid. My
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mother played on club teams in
0:59
Reno, Nevada for the past
1:01
forty years. I
1:03
remember her coming home after matches when I
1:05
was in middle school. Telling
1:08
us in Farsi that she scored a goal.
1:13
In my family, our love for
1:15
soccer was constant and
1:17
clear. But living
1:19
in America and being from Iran.
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What?
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That
1:27
was more complicated.
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We only two birthday
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songs, one in English,
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and one in Farsi. I
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often felt like that. split
1:40
into. At school, I
1:42
was ashamed of telling people where my family
1:44
was from. It's
1:45
not like I was fully aware of what was
1:47
happening in the world when the Gulf
1:49
War was the Iranian hostage
1:52
crisis. But
1:53
going up in the nineties, in Reno, Nevada,
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I knew being from the Middle
1:58
East, wasn't something to be
1:59
excited about.
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But I remember when Iran played
2:04
the US in the nineteen ninety
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eight World Cup. Suddenly,
2:08
for
2:09
a few hours, my family was
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transported. The hyphen in our
2:13
identity dropped. We were
2:15
fully Iranian again. ninety
2:17
Minutes of soccer history tonight in
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Lyon.
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That day, I was clear
2:25
which side I was on. In
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our tiny living room, a portal had
2:29
been open, and
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there were no rules. When a
2:32
goal was scored, whoever had the remote
2:34
would flip to the Spanish channel to capture the
2:36
energy of each goal. Pillows
2:38
with Deepgram,
2:39
my brother would scream, shimba. We
2:42
would tackle each other. And he's crazy.
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And he's rude. We'd both
2:47
be sent for periods of time to cool off in
2:49
our rooms But even my parents
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would be cussing and shouting and cheering,
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soccer was our greatest sense of national
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pride. Our way to beat the big guy,
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the US. who was so
3:00
intrinsic to our exile.
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And
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then we went back to reality. I
3:08
was an E1, American
3:09
girl again.
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When
3:13
I think about all of the keepsake my
3:15
mother could have taken with her from Iran
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and passed down to me. The
3:19
language, the history, the stories
3:22
of her life. Why
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was soccer? most important
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to her.
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That question has led me to
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some of the most dedicated
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soccer fans in the world.
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All women and
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we're going to start with the story
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of one girl.
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Hi, Zena.
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That's my mom.
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Can you say your name,
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Zayna Sajoffi?
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This tape is from the summer of
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twenty twenty. I'm on Skype
3:56
with Zenapp Sahafi, and my mom
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is translating. Zenappra,
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put your phone on airplane mode.
4:02
Mom, Efarsi, or
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trying to. I think
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that's kind of English y.
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Shimane is working.
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We're good. We're going. We're good. I'm gonna
4:12
pull myself some coffee. I'm so happy.
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Wait. Hey. Let me give you one
4:16
minute. No. I'm good. Go ahead. I
4:18
can multitask.
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Okay.
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can baseball
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Zayna, my mom and I are
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thousands of miles away from one another
4:28
the first time
4:29
we meet. I'm
4:30
in New York, my mom is in Reno,
4:33
and Zena is in Turkey. It's
4:35
seven o'clock at night where she is.
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On my video screen,
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I
4:40
can see Zayna sitting on the floor
4:42
leaning against a large white
4:44
wall. Over her head hangs
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a fluorescent light She's
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wearing bright red lipstick and
4:50
a bright red soccer jersey, the
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color of her favorite team. Persepolis.
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Zayma has several piercings across
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her lips.
5:00
The right side of her head is shaved, but
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the rest of her hair is so long it
5:04
falls past her knees. Zayna
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tells me she could live in a religious
5:10
family. They didn't own a TV,
5:12
so she would go to her grandmother's house to
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watch games. One day, whenever
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uncles ask her if she wants to go
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see the players
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in person. With your
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mother's brother,
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Yes.
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They
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wouldn't be going inside the stadium
5:31
to watch a game though. In
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nineteen eighty one, long before Zayna
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was born, women and girls were banned
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from watching soccer games at stadiums
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in Iran. So
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her uncle would drive her to greet the
5:44
national team at the airport, and
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they'd ride alongside their bus. all
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the way to the national E1, waving
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at the players
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and screaming out their window.
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She
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tells me that at twelve
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years old, She stood at the gate
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watching the men go
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in. She saw the excitement
6:02
on all the boy's faces, painted
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bright colors, and radiating happiness.
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At that moment,
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Zenab knew that following the players
6:11
to the stadium entrance was
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not enough. For the
6:15
next game, she would be watching
6:17
from inside the stadium. It
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was that desire to see a game
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up close in person that
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changed her life.
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In
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the lives of so many other
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girls. Today,
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Zena lives in exile.
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She's recently been joined by her mom,
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her stepdad. and
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her little brother. You know, that's nice.
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that
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Zenop's dream as a kid was
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to be a tattoo artist. These
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days when she's hopeful, it's
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to be a singer.
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But right now, Zainab's
6:57
life is on hold. The
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Iranian government has called her
7:01
an enemy of the state.
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At
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this point in a three way,
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Zena lights up a cigarette. She
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looks tired.
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She is only twenty two.
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Zayna, if
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you went back to Iran now, what would
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happen to you? E1.
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She
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says they'll probably hang her.
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The exhaustion, the
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exile. the government threats,
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all
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of this for
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wanting to watch soccer.
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I'm Shamoli Yang from Shirazade
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Productions, and some thirty further
8:10
new podcasts. This is
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Pink Card. Episode one.
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Red
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Bull.
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Modern soccer was imported into
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Iran one hundred years ago.
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The game arrived through a port called Albert
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Dan is a teaming place where a quarter of a
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million people live dedicated to one
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single proposition the
8:48
refining of twenty five million tonnes a
8:50
while every year. The
8:52
British had set up
8:53
a colony in Abadon in the
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early nineteen hundreds. They made a
8:57
deal with the
8:58
Iranian government, but it wasn't
9:00
really a deal. Iran's
9:02
corrupt elite got a small amount of bribe money
9:04
and the ability to
9:05
remain in power. and the
9:07
UK received almost
9:09
total control of Iran's
9:11
abundant wealth and natural
9:12
resources.
9:16
Later, the bridge would be pushed out,
9:19
but soccer
9:19
would stay. and its popularity
9:22
across Iran, the Middle East, and the
9:24
world would only grow. As
9:27
of today, two hundred and
9:29
eleven affiliated associations
9:31
are members of the multi billion
9:33
dollar institution that is FIFA.
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Fifa estimates that more than five billion
9:37
people
9:37
watch the World Cup. That's
9:39
more than all the living Christians, Muslims,
9:41
and Hindus combined. And in
9:43
twenty twenty two, for the first time
9:46
ever in its history, the
9:48
World Cup is taking place in the
9:50
Middle East in Qatar.
9:52
but forty years ago,
9:55
Iran
9:55
looks set to host the first World Cup in
9:57
the region at its national stadium.
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When it was built in the early seventies,
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that stadium was the
10:04
largest on the planet. It was
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surrounded
10:06
by a rowing river, indoor
10:09
volleyball courts, and an Olympic size
10:11
swimming pool.
10:13
The
10:14
stands held one hundred
10:16
and twenty thousand people It was
10:18
called Adi E1 Stadium
10:20
and got the nickname bee sworn
10:23
because the stadium's design
10:25
amplifies sound
10:25
like a swarm of bees.
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The
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stadium was built by the Shaw. who
10:35
had been the reigning dictator of
10:37
Iran for thirty years, and the
10:39
stadium was a perfect symbol
10:41
for his vision of Iran on the
10:43
global stage. Modern
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Lattles.
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What will happen in And in E1.
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this. Frank
10:49
Sinatra hosted a concert
10:52
there in nineteen seventy five.
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If you can imagine, at
10:55
that time, the stands
10:57
were filled with women and one
10:59
of the songs he sang, was
11:01
the lady as a
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trend.
11:04
This is It's
11:09
my car.
11:10
Senatia's
11:11
presence highlighted the growing
11:14
shift away from the old customs
11:16
of Iran and soccer
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playing at the time seen as
11:20
part of the country's quote unquote
11:22
modernization, right alongside
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women's rights. The Shah's
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love hate relationship with the West
11:29
would become clearer as his reign continued.
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The western countries are just not used
11:33
to thinking of Iran as the major
11:35
world power. You're right. but
11:37
they will have to cope with this
11:40
development soon. But it
11:42
was confusing.
11:45
Disham made guest appearances at
11:47
Disneyland, riding a Matterhorn with his
11:49
wife, he imported the sewing
11:51
machine and other western domestic
11:53
devices. he broadcasted
11:55
American TV programs like bewitched
11:57
and country westerns all
11:59
across
11:59
Iran. But
12:01
as the shaw grew with age, he
12:03
realized that these old oil contracts
12:05
with Western countries were
12:07
asymmetrical and unfair.
12:09
In the early nineteen seventies, Because
12:11
of his policies to increase oil revenue,
12:14
Iran became economically very
12:17
powerful,
12:17
and so he became less
12:20
diplomatic started
12:21
essentially standing up to the outside
12:23
forces that had always tried to have
12:25
a piece of Iran.
12:26
The brown eyed people's are
12:29
teaching the blue eyed people
12:31
something. The blue eyed people
12:33
have
12:33
to wake up wake
12:34
up to from
12:36
his copper in which they put themselves by
12:39
taking maybe too many sleeping
12:41
pills. The shah
12:41
had great ambitions for Ibon.
12:44
but under a dictator, the people
12:46
still suffered. His secret
12:48
police detained,
12:49
tortured, or murdered
12:50
those who might threaten his
12:52
rule including his own citizens.
12:55
Forces inside and outside
12:57
of Iran collided. Iranian
13:00
citizens young and old rose
13:02
up and forced the shot of flee.
13:04
Women stood side by side with the men
13:06
facing the military's
13:07
tanks.
13:08
Today, We call it the seventy nine
13:10
revolution.
13:10
It
13:12
happened just three years after that
13:14
big sinatra
13:15
concert. We day here now the demonstration
13:17
that the rest go on. It
13:20
exploded, and the country turned
13:22
upside down. The
13:24
Islamic Koji saw a moment to take
13:26
advantage of an empty ruling
13:28
throne. They jumped in
13:30
and usurped power.
13:32
I'm gonna roll myself
13:35
up. And I'm big
13:37
ball. And
13:55
At
13:59
that time, my mother was
14:02
a freshman in college in
14:04
Iran. She was one of the teams on
14:06
the front lines of the revolution,
14:08
protesting for change in her miniskirt.
14:11
when her university shut down,
14:13
and the national army
14:15
switched allegiance to the clergy.
14:17
My
14:17
mom's family put her on a flight
14:19
out of the country. She left January
14:22
six in
14:22
nineteen seventy nine, the same day
14:25
that Shaw also left Iran.
14:27
She
14:27
arrived in Reno, Nevada, the
14:30
only city where she knew
14:32
anyone in America. When
14:34
she went to register for her
14:37
university classes, I saw this guy
14:39
with a beige kind
14:41
of
14:41
puffer jacket and some
14:43
slippers who've
14:44
totally looked American.
14:46
huge afro hair, and
14:49
it was kind of blandish, so
14:51
it didn't
14:51
look like PINK versions
14:54
with the darker. My
14:55
parents fell in
14:57
love with each other for
14:59
their American E1. Daddy
15:02
watched lots of
15:03
Queen's with movies, shows
15:05
like the
15:06
good dad and ugly, and Hitachi
15:08
come here and hit
15:09
the holes. He'd
15:12
better
15:12
be a cowboys? Yes. Yes. My
15:15
dad told me, he fell for my mom
15:17
because she reminded him of Barbara Eden
15:19
from I dream of genie. which he had
15:20
watch as a kid growing up in Iran.
15:25
Eden actually speaks Farsi in the
15:27
pilot episode.
15:28
again
15:31
Until the American astronaut
15:34
makes his first wish. Find a way to pee
15:36
the
15:36
master. You spoke English.
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That that's all I had to do was say, I wish.
15:41
My
15:41
parents came into America thinking
15:43
the West loved them back. but
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it
15:45
didn't take long for them to realize this
15:48
love was unrequited.
15:48
The special report that we planned
15:50
to bring you tonight was about domestic politics.
15:53
but crisis in Iran is more urgent
15:55
right now than the campaign here at home.
15:57
There was the hostage crisis of course. Hundred
15:59
young
15:59
people mainly studios Tehran
16:02
University have taken over the embassy.
16:04
All the Americans have been hostages
16:06
ever since. But even beyond that,
16:08
most of the Western media about the
16:10
Middle East was so hateful that
16:12
being
16:12
from Iran became a point
16:14
of shame. One of
16:15
the top gossiping films of my childhood
16:18
was TrueLive, with Arnold Swartznager
16:20
and Jamie Lee Curtis. I
16:22
remember watching it with my grandma who was
16:24
visiting at the time and getting
16:26
scrutiatingly embarrassed as the film dragged
16:29
on. My parents said their best to
16:31
block what was happening in their country,
16:33
from their minds, and
16:35
from me. They were even
16:37
somewhat relieved when upon entering
16:39
grade school. I
16:40
lost my ability
16:40
to speak farcey. just
16:44
like Barbara Eden in I dream of
16:46
Gini, which
16:46
is why my mom is translating for me
16:48
now. She mines almost three hours.
16:50
How much do I get paid? Thank you.
16:54
As I've
16:56
reported this story, I mostly
16:58
wanted to understand Wizena
17:01
and my mother.
17:02
Both now exiles held
17:04
onto memories of soccer as if
17:06
it were their homeland
17:08
itself. Zone up
17:16
says there is always
17:18
help in soccer.
17:21
Even in the weakest moments,
17:23
there is always that sliver
17:26
of hope and possibility
17:28
that we could win the match.
17:34
And this has
17:35
kept the love of soccer alive in her
17:37
to this
17:38
day. There
17:45
are times
17:45
when we feel like the game is over,
17:47
but in fact, it
17:49
is just getting started.
17:52
In
17:53
this
17:59
series, we are
17:59
going to meet three generations
18:02
of Iranian women who fought
18:04
millimeter
18:04
by millimeter for every bit
18:06
of freedom unfolding in Iran today.
18:09
Over forty
18:12
years
18:13
ago, these women were banned from
18:15
stadiums in Iran. Banned
18:16
from standing side by side as
18:19
equal Iranians. Banned
18:21
from the joy, the
18:23
exhilaration, the love in
18:24
watching a game. This is
18:27
the
18:27
story of how the women
18:29
took their stadiums back.
18:39
Next
18:42
episode, I'm going to take you inside
18:45
Iran. I was learning because
18:47
I was afraid that something happened.
18:50
I could die. This was
18:52
my fear. I'll show you
18:53
the diabolical way. the
18:55
women who revolution were forced
18:56
into submission overnight. I
18:59
was laughing. My daughter
19:01
was laughing. I couldn't
19:04
understand that, oh, this is
19:06
message.
19:06
What is the
19:07
meaning of that? The
19:09
joy was forbidden
19:11
basically. That
19:13
is how they control you.
19:23
Pink Card
19:24
was created and hosted by
19:26
me, Shimoliye, and our
19:28
associate
19:28
producer as homa Surabi.
19:31
Audio mixing, and original music is
19:33
by Ramtine Arabali, editing
19:35
by Sara Quevedo, Lisa
19:38
Azakizadeh, Rodar themed
19:40
song, Megan Rapino, Sue
19:42
Bird, and me, Shimoli,
19:44
our executive producers. Did you learn
19:46
it from someone? Did
19:47
you You're doing English?
19:49
Oh, but actually. Thank you
19:52
to my awesome
19:54
mom for translating. We had
19:56
additional help from Diva Motishan.
19:59
Our production
19:59
coordinator is Marissa Bravo. Thank
20:02
you, Janina Ansari, Miriam E1,
20:05
Minky Warden, Hadi Gallemi,
20:08
Rummy Golbang, Moiadad, Gucci
20:10
and Khajabi, Glovet Samosa,
20:12
Melinda Romero, Jasmine Ramzi,
20:14
and everyone at the center for human
20:16
rights in Iran. For thirty four
20:18
thirty Marsha Cook is executive
20:20
producer. Eve Tro is
20:22
senior editorial producer. Kath PINK
20:25
is
20:25
lime producer and Gus Navarro is
20:27
associate producer. Licensing support
20:29
from Jennifer Thor and director of
20:31
development is Adam Newhow
20:37
else.
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