Podchaser Logo
Home
THE BAG GAME Episode 3: The Sting

THE BAG GAME Episode 3: The Sting

Released Tuesday, 18th April 2023
Good episode? Give it some love!
THE BAG GAME Episode 3: The Sting

THE BAG GAME Episode 3: The Sting

THE BAG GAME Episode 3: The Sting

THE BAG GAME Episode 3: The Sting

Tuesday, 18th April 2023
Good episode? Give it some love!
Rate Episode

Episode Transcript

Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.

Use Ctrl + F to search

0:00

previously on The Bag Game.

0:04

They wanted Billy to go to an Adidas school, to

0:06

an Adidas-branded school. The first

0:08

question that comes up is, where do you get

0:10

the charger from? The black market economy

0:13

of paying players under the table exists

0:15

because of the NCAA's amateurism

0:17

rules.

0:23

In 2019, I went

0:26

with my reporting partner, Mark

0:29

Schlebaugh, to Orlando, Florida.

0:32

We were there to meet a guy named Brad

0:35

Augustine. So

0:37

what is your normal work week like

0:39

now? Oh, gosh. Mostly it's

0:41

in the car. I've got a handful

0:43

of accounts, so... And they're spread

0:46

out, so Tampa, Central Florida... These

0:48

days, he works in his father-in-law's

0:51

flooring business. Porcelain tile.

0:53

We do do a little bit of wood. The only thing we really don't

0:55

deal with is carpet.

0:56

Augustine worked his way up in the

0:58

world of commercial flooring, from forklift

1:01

driver to sales rep over two years.

1:04

But it was a career change

1:06

for him. And that led

1:08

to some awkward

1:09

conversations. It was nerve-wracking

1:12

the first couple of times when people asked me, well, how did

1:14

you end up in this industry? Like, how are you here?

1:16

And it's never something I hid. It's always something

1:19

I was honest about.

1:20

He'd tell them the story about

1:22

how his old life in basketball

1:25

came to an end. But, you know, telling

1:27

that story for the first time, you're sweating,

1:30

like, oh, my gosh, these people are going

1:32

to look at me like I'm the worst human being on the planet.

1:35

And that was why I was

1:37

there, to have him tell

1:40

me that story. Hi. We

1:43

arrived at his spacious home

1:45

in a gated community in the Orlando suburbs.

1:48

His wife, Alexa, greeted us, along

1:50

with their newborn daughter and her big

1:52

sister, a toddler who ran

1:55

across a playroom of dolls and toys

1:57

toward the front door. You are silly. Yeah.

2:02

In his previous life, Augustine

2:05

was the program director of one

2:08

of Florida's premier youth basketball

2:10

programs. Teams like his

2:13

aren't funded through public schools

2:14

or rec centers. They're

2:17

private operations. And

2:19

Augustine went into debt to

2:21

support the team. I

2:23

was $50,000 in debt with not one penny

2:25

in savings. Nothing. Augustine

2:28

tried getting money from every

2:30

source he could think of, but he was

2:32

struggling to keep his head above water. In

2:36

September 2017, he

2:38

got a

2:39

call from Christian Dawkins,

2:42

a rising sports business manager

2:44

and aspiring financial advisor.

2:47

Dawkins had connections

2:50

at Adidas, and he

2:52

had helped Augustine raise money in the past.

2:55

He told me, listen, you need to come to New York

2:57

and you need to meet my investor, is what he called

3:00

her, and it was Jill. According

3:02

to Dawkins, Jill Bailey

3:04

was a tech entrepreneur with money

3:06

to burn who wanted to get into

3:08

the sports business.

3:11

Dawkins wanted her to meet Augustine.

3:14

To prove to her, he had connections

3:17

to up and coming athletes.

3:19

If Augustine talked the talk in front of

3:21

Bailey, Dawkins promised

3:23

to pull strings at Adidas to get money

3:26

for Augustine's team. So I

3:28

told my wife, I said, I'm leaving, I'm going to the airport. Augustine

3:30

got to New York and checked into his

3:33

hotel that night. I'm in an early

3:35

riser, I always have been, I'm up around five o'clock.

3:37

So I'm up in the hotel room about five,

3:39

five thirty, and

3:41

I get a weird phone call. And

3:44

like, who's this? And the person on the other

3:46

end of the phone says, this

3:48

is so and so with the FBI. We

3:50

know you're in New York City. You need to turn yourself

3:52

in. Now, at this

3:54

point, I'm not even thinking twice. I literally,

3:57

I've got the funniest friends, so they prank call me all

3:59

the time. Unphased,

4:02

Augustine made his way to the W

4:04

Hotel in Times Square, where the

4:06

meeting with Dawkins and the tech

4:08

entrepreneur Jill Bailey was

4:10

supposed to happen. So

4:12

I get to the W at 7.30. We're supposed to meet at 8. So

4:15

I'm there at 7.30. I got the laptop fired up and

4:17

making phone calls. I'm just, I'm reading the news. 7.45.

4:20

I'm calling Christian. Nothing's happening. Eight

4:23

o'clock. Nothing. So

4:25

now it's nine o'clock and now I'm pissed, right? I flew up here

4:27

for this meeting. This guy's not even calling me

4:30

back. He's totally ghosting me.

4:31

Augustine decided he'd waited

4:33

long enough and left the hotel.

4:36

And I'm standing right in the middle of

4:38

Times Square, just circles

4:41

of people around me, and the

4:43

lights are all lit up, and all

4:45

of a sudden my phone just starts pinging.

4:48

Notification after notification after notification.

4:50

So I swipe the first notification I see, and

4:52

it opens up a tweet and it says, United

4:56

States of America vs. Jonathan Bradley Augustine.

5:00

Augustine had just been criminally

5:03

charged by the U.S. Department

5:05

of Justice, and he found

5:08

out about it through a tweet.

5:10

I had to have sat there for two minutes just

5:12

staring at my phone. I didn't move. I don't know if I took

5:14

a breath. I was so confused.

5:17

And then I think somebody bumped into me, and

5:19

I just snapped out of it. And

5:21

I started scrolling, and I see four

5:24

felony counts. And

5:26

so in that moment, before I did anything, I

5:28

called my wife and said, Hey, babe, I

5:30

have no idea what's going on right now, but

5:33

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get arrested today.

5:35

Brad Augustine

5:37

didn't know the full story yet,

5:40

but he had been implicated

5:42

in one of college basketball's most

5:45

dramatic pay-for-play scandals.

5:48

The same one that ensnared

5:51

Billy Preston.

6:00

assistant coaches. Charged

6:01

in a bribery speed... This marked the end of Augustine's

6:03

career and would lead to him being called the most

6:18

dangerous man in college basketball.

6:23

From ESPN and 30 for 30

6:25

podcasts, I'm Paula Levine

6:28

and this is The Bag Game. Episode 3,

6:30

The Sting.

6:44

In the first two episodes, we focused

6:46

on Billy Preston, a basketball

6:49

player benched at the University of Kansas

6:52

after his car accident got the attention

6:54

of the NCAA. Billy

6:56

left Kansas to play in Bosnia

6:59

and we'll return to him later. But

7:03

right now, let's shift the focus

7:05

to Brad Augustine because

7:08

Augustine's story takes us inside

7:10

the big money world of youth basketball.

7:14

If you pull the thread on

7:16

pay-to-play schemes, you'll

7:19

often find youth teams at

7:21

the source.

7:25

Long before he was in the sights

7:27

of the Justice Department, Brad

7:29

Augustine grew up in Orlando and

7:32

went on to play basketball in college.

7:34

At Southeastern University, had

7:36

an opportunity then to go overseas,

7:39

only played about a half a season, wasn't

7:41

for me.

7:42

But Augustine wasn't ready to give up

7:44

on basketball, so he returned to

7:47

Florida and became a trainer. I

7:49

had a really good name in the state of Florida,

7:52

training. I mean, I would argue at one point

7:54

that I was the premier guy to go to

7:56

if you were an elite player, you were going to search me out

7:58

for training.

7:59

In 2012, one of the

8:02

players Augustine had trained went

8:04

pro, and he offered

8:06

Augustine money to start a youth basketball

8:09

team. That was the beginning

8:11

of what was then called Showtime Hoops.

8:14

We were known for just being the hardest working, toughest

8:17

group. The team was part

8:19

of the Amateur Athletic Union, or AAU,

8:23

same as TJ Gasnola's team, the

8:25

New England Players.

8:28

As Showtime

8:28

Hoops established itself,

8:31

Augustine spent more and more of his time

8:34

figuring out

8:35

how to pay for the program. As

8:37

I quickly realized, boy, it

8:39

costs a lot of money to do AAU

8:42

right.

8:42

That's because AAU

8:44

teams travel to tournaments all

8:47

around the country. You're traveling on

8:49

a minimum of 30 kids, a coach

8:51

or two coaches, so you're renting

8:53

15-passenger vans, you're getting

8:55

hotels. These kids aren't getting sent

8:58

with any money, so you're at McDonald's,

9:00

or at Wendy's, or you're at Waffle House, where you can get the biggest

9:02

bang for your buck or your order and pizza. And

9:06

man, it's a lot to balance.

9:07

These were 15 to 17-year-old kids. They

9:12

eat a lot. Some

9:14

of the players' families helped to pay for the team's

9:17

costs, but most weren't able

9:19

to. Augustine had

9:21

money from his backer in the NBA, but

9:24

he was also taking on tens of

9:26

thousands of dollars in personal credit

9:29

card debt.

9:30

His wife, Alexa, felt the

9:32

impact. I

9:35

was enough removed to see

9:38

the destruction that could come from the irresponsibility

9:42

with our finances. I think

9:44

Brad was a little too

9:46

entrenched in it, and he's

9:49

a visionary, and he's a kapathful

9:51

person.

9:52

Alexa was herself a former college

9:55

player at Florida State. She'd

9:57

considered her own pro career over $7 million.

10:00

overseas, but she stayed in Florida

10:02

and ended up working in an athletic program

10:05

at a local high school.

10:06

I kind of felt like a single mom for a lot of

10:08

time. I was working a full-time

10:11

job. Most nights

10:13

he wasn't there. He was either traveling or

10:15

driving, helping pick up a player, drop

10:18

a player off, take him to get

10:21

books for school, whatever

10:23

that entailed.

10:24

Augustine knew the only

10:27

way to keep Showtime hoops going was

10:29

to get sponsored by one of the apparel

10:31

companies and play in their

10:34

circuit.

10:35

And with that, that's shoes,

10:38

that's apparel, that's travel,

10:40

that's all of the bells and whistles

10:43

that come with being a part of Nike or Adidas

10:45

or Under Armour. That's

10:47

Myron Medcalf, who covers college

10:50

basketball and recruiting for ESPN.

10:53

I've been to events where you

10:55

look on the sideline and

10:57

there are five boxes of shoes per kid

11:00

because these companies just given them that. The

11:03

kid flew first class

11:05

maybe to get there. For the companies,

11:07

it's an investment.

11:09

Some of these kids are going to go pro and

11:11

brands want to establish

11:13

a relationship. At the top,

11:16

in terms of those deals, are the shoe

11:18

companies hoping that they'll land the next

11:20

LeBron. So they're fueling, putting

11:23

a lot of money into making

11:25

sure these tournaments are top notch and they are.

11:28

To get your program on one of the

11:30

top flight circuits, you need

11:33

to have the kind of talent that attracts

11:36

national attention. Augustine

11:39

had a promising young guard

11:41

named Nasir

11:42

Little. It was getting out to Nasir Little and he

11:44

continues to impress as he... Unbelievable

11:47

family, unbelievable young man. He was our

11:49

motor. Take the bump, the contact. He's

11:51

got a grown man body already. He's already

11:53

prepared for college basketball physically.

11:56

Today Little plays in the NBA

11:58

for the Trailblazers. At the

12:00

time, he was Showtime Hoops' star.

12:04

Augustine made a connection with a

12:06

rep from Under Armour, and

12:08

his pitch was simple.

12:09

Give us a shot. I

12:12

don't want any money. I don't want anything. Just give us an

12:14

opportunity. Give us an opportunity.

12:17

Let us get on the circuit.

12:20

In 2016, Augustine's

12:23

team competed on the Under Armour circuit.

12:25

We lost every single game

12:29

on the Under Armour circuit. And you want to talk

12:31

about showing up to

12:33

a tournament and having these guys look at you like, you

12:36

sold me a bag of goods. You guys are terrible.

12:38

And now not only that, now we're not traveling to Georgia.

12:41

I'm having now to buy flights, right?

12:44

So now I'm flying a whole team

12:47

to Indianapolis, to New York. You

12:49

ever tried to rent two 15 passenger vans in New York City?

12:52

You know how expensive that is? So we're

12:55

just scraping by. And at the end of

12:57

that season, I just remember, I

12:59

felt so defeated because, I mean,

13:02

we had failed on the biggest stage. It

13:04

was at this moment when things

13:06

were particularly bleak that

13:10

Augustine made a friend.

13:12

I ended up getting connected to a guy who

13:14

I was told just had the juice.

13:17

And somebody got me a meeting and said, meet this guy. If

13:19

you think your program's that good, sell

13:22

this guy, and you may figure

13:24

it out. And that was Christian Dawkins.

13:27

What was your first impression of Christian? Very

13:29

bright, very direct,

13:32

very intelligent, understood the landscape,

13:36

was clearly knowledgeable, was clearly tied

13:38

in, clearly had influence, no

13:41

BS.

13:41

To understand Christian

13:44

Dawkins is to understand the

13:46

complex way that under the table

13:48

money works its way into the system. Here's

13:51

Dawkins talking in an interview on YouTube

13:54

about how he got started

13:55

in the business. Once

13:57

you're around town, see people who

13:59

are... worth money to entities and

14:02

businesses. I mean, people figured

14:04

out that I could be, you know, beneficial to their businesses

14:07

and it kind of blossomed from there. Dawkins

14:10

had been working as what's known as

14:12

a runner for a prominent agent

14:14

who paid him to recruit young basketball

14:17

players with pro potential.

14:20

But around the time of his meeting with Augustine,

14:23

Dawkins had a new plan.

14:26

He wanted to start his own financial

14:28

advisor business. He would steer

14:31

kids to particular schools and

14:33

then take the athletes on as paying

14:35

clients once they turned pro. Here's

14:38

Myron Medcalf again.

14:40

Christian Dawkins represented himself as someone

14:44

who could help teams get players, someone

14:46

who could make moves, someone who could be a go-between

14:50

to the top talent in America and the

14:52

top programs

14:53

in America. Those sorts

14:55

of claims are often exaggerated.

14:59

Dawkins needed connections like

15:01

Augustine to deliver.

15:02

You better believe about 25% of

15:05

what you hear on the

15:06

ALU circuit because the other 75% is

15:08

probably BS. And if you're Christian

15:12

Dawkins, you're trying to figure out, yeah, I

15:14

want to build these relationships, but I'm

15:16

also trying to move up the food chain too. And

15:19

I'm not moving up the food chain without somehow

15:23

being a power player in

15:25

this business that people can turn to when

15:27

they want to land top prospects.

15:30

Understanding the payoff for

15:32

people like Dawkins is key

15:34

to understanding the bag

15:36

game. Sometimes

15:38

go-betweens like Dawkins would get

15:40

a fee for recruiting a player for an agent

15:43

or a shoe company.

15:43

But that's not

15:45

a sustaining income. So

15:48

what's in it for them in the long

15:51

run? According to Matt

15:53

Babcock, the former agent

15:55

we met last episode, it

15:57

comes down to what's known as a point.

15:59

or a percentage

16:02

of an athlete's pro contract. The

16:05

terminology being that they want a point, which

16:07

means they want 1% of your agent fees. That's

16:10

a very common sort of standard

16:13

request from AU coaches,

16:15

handlers, even parents. And I

16:17

think the guys that have probably done this the most

16:19

successfully are the guys that have long

16:21

lasting relationships with schools, agents,

16:24

or shoe companies, that they do take those

16:26

deals and they write it out the long term.

16:29

So where is that actually written down? Is

16:32

that in writing anywhere? Probably

16:34

not. I

16:35

think a lot of those are just sort of wink, wink type

16:38

deals.

16:39

So how often do the players

16:41

even know this is happening? I'd

16:44

say in most cases they don't know. So

16:47

that's the long term strategy for people

16:49

like Dawkins. He

16:51

positioned himself as someone who could deliver

16:54

top players to agents, apparel

16:56

companies, and colleges.

16:59

Augustine and Dawkins frequently

17:01

talked about where Showtime Hoops players

17:03

wanted to go to school. See, AAU

17:06

coaches have a lot of influence

17:08

on their players' college decisions.

17:12

College

17:12

coaches can't just talk

17:14

to high school players whenever and

17:16

however they want. The NCAA

17:18

controls that. So the

17:21

AAU coach is the go-between.

17:23

20 plus years ago, if you

17:26

wanted to go and get a top player in

17:28

America, you went to his high school coach. That's

17:31

not the case anymore. I mean, you're going to the AAU

17:33

coach, nine times out of 10. So

17:36

they're, I mean, they're powerful. If

17:39

Coach K wants players, he's gotta call

17:40

you. Bill Self has to call you.

17:44

Augustine helped Dawkins

17:46

by steering his program's top

17:49

players toward colleges that wore

17:51

Adidas, like the University

17:53

of Miami.

17:53

I was looking at it like,

17:55

okay, if the kid's kinda leaning

17:57

toward Miami, well, we need Adidas to step

17:59

up.

17:59

up, right? If we're

18:02

going to help the brand, which a five-star

18:04

kid going to one of your premier schools helps the brand,

18:06

if he's going to help the brand, I'm going to Christian. I'm saying,

18:08

man, like, what's up? Like, we need to be taken care

18:11

of.

18:12

Augustine had influence over

18:14

where his players decided to go to college.

18:17

And if it worked out, he was

18:19

hoping to get points on their eventual

18:22

contracts.

18:22

For me, it was a long term

18:24

play of, OK, this year is going to be our first

18:26

pro, right? That's going to change the game

18:29

for our program, like, because this kid's going to end up

18:31

signing a shoe contract one day and

18:33

we're going to write it into his rider that our program

18:35

is taken care of through the shoe company.

18:37

As their relationship grew,

18:40

Dawkins introduced Augustine

18:42

to people at Adidas. So

18:45

just like he had with Under Armour,

18:47

Augustine asked for a shot for

18:50

Showtime hoops to prove

18:51

itself, this time

18:54

on Adidas's gauntlet circuit.

18:57

Just let us play on the circuit and give us product,

18:59

give us jersey, shoes, bags and

19:01

backpacks. I don't want anything else. And

19:04

let me prove myself. And they agreed

19:06

to it.

19:07

Augustine seized an opportunity

19:10

to attend an Adidas directors

19:12

meeting in Las Vegas early in

19:15

2017. That's where shoe

19:17

company executives and AAU

19:19

program directors would meet

19:22

and talk about the year ahead. And

19:24

it's where Augustine saw how the big

19:26

apparel companies

19:27

saw things. You weren't sitting in that

19:30

room if you didn't have a player

19:32

that there's an outside fringe

19:34

possibility that at some point they were

19:36

going to be a professional basketball player. And

19:39

let's be honest, like, if we're

19:41

approaching it from a capitalism standpoint, it's brilliant.

19:44

How did the shoe company reps communicate that

19:47

to you? Were they were they subtle

19:49

about it or how did they deliver that? I mean, it was it

19:51

was pretty direct. I mean, guys, like, we're

19:53

here for pros. That's

19:56

what we're here for. If you don't deliver,

19:59

you're done. They won't be in this room next year.

20:02

And again, there was nothing, there was no naivete

20:04

about it. Like that's what shoe company

20:06

basketball is. It's not, Nike's

20:08

not funding a team here in Orlando because they send

20:10

kids to college. They don't care. They've

20:13

got four or five kids on their team that could be NBA players at

20:15

some point. That's the model of

20:17

their business.

20:19

Augustine thought this time he did

20:21

have a guy, Nasir Little, and

20:24

a strong program. And he

20:26

needed Adidas' money because he

20:28

was burning through his

20:29

own. So I would say I probably walked

20:32

out of that Under

20:34

Armour year, $15,000, $20,000 in credit card

20:38

debt. My check came in and

20:41

it had to go to the house and it had to go to the bills

20:43

and literally whatever was left over went

20:46

back into the program.

20:46

Augustine was sinking

20:48

deeper into debt, but he

20:51

didn't see any alternative. When

20:53

you've got 30 young men that are looking at you,

20:55

it wasn't just like, oh, this is going to be embarrassing

20:57

for me if I don't pull this off. These

21:00

kids and these families and these coaches

21:02

are depending on me to come

21:05

through. So now to be in that position,

21:07

I mean, I was

21:10

terrified. Augustine

21:13

got the team through most of the season, but

21:15

with one tournament left in

21:18

Las Vegas, he was all

21:20

out of cash.

21:22

Augustine put all his hope

21:25

in Christian Dawkins. Christian

21:28

had been telling me he was going to get me some money for about

21:30

a month, month and a half, and I hadn't got it. But

21:32

he told me he was going to get it to me in Las Vegas.

21:35

And so I said, I

21:36

need you to be positive about that because

21:38

I'm going to fly my team out there and I'm

21:40

not buying, I can't afford round trip. So

21:42

I'm going to buy one ways. Once there,

21:45

he got a call from Dawkins, inviting

21:48

him to a meeting with an investor at

21:50

the Cosmopolitan Hotel.

21:51

He calls me and said, hey, we're going to go meet this

21:53

guy. He's got the money for you.

21:58

So I remember taking... the elevator

22:01

up to the highest floor you could go on the elevator

22:04

stepping off and there's another private

22:06

elevator we get on that elevator

22:09

and we go up to the top floor of the Cosmo

22:11

and I remember stepping off and it was like

22:15

something out of like an Ocean's Eleven movie right

22:17

like the hallways like we're like velvet walls

22:19

I'm like this is insane and

22:22

so we knock on the door the door opens and

22:24

I mean it was like open

22:27

doors out to the Vegas skyline

22:29

like

22:29

expansive balcony inside

22:33

the room Dawkins introduced

22:35

Augustine to a couple of guys

22:38

there was just some young dude in there

22:41

with his like shirt unbuttoned down his navel

22:44

and like spiky hair and that was supposedly

22:46

his investor and then Marty Marty

22:49

was there as well

22:51

Marty was Marty Blazer

22:54

a financial advisor from Pittsburgh

22:57

we were just shooting the crap just talking

23:00

and then the topic of a player named Balsa

23:02

Coprovica came up Coprovica

23:05

was planning to play for Augustine's team

23:07

the next season in 2018

23:09

Louisville wanted him

23:11

badly and so the whole premise was

23:14

of the meeting was okay this guy's gonna give me

23:16

this money and I'm gonna tell him the kids

23:18

going to Louisville so you know

23:20

we're in there and he's like okay yeah like I'm gonna give you this

23:22

money this is for the mom and the family mind you

23:24

the kid and the mom had no idea what was going on right

23:27

so I'm but I'm telling these guys yeah no the mom

23:29

needs this to live you know I got to pay I

23:31

got bills that are associated with this kid

23:34

you know whatever

23:34

the investor with the unbuttoned

23:37

shirt handed Augustine an

23:40

envelope full of cash

23:42

and so I remember getting up taking

23:45

that envelope of money leaving

23:47

the Cosmo and that was

23:49

it how much money was it

23:51

that is right under 13 grand like 12,700 bucks somewhere

23:54

in there what did you do with the 12,700 I bought us our flights

23:57

home and

23:59

the rest just I mean, went to recouping expenses.

24:01

I mean, by that point, like I said, we were, I was

24:03

so far in debt. Our whole trip

24:05

was on my Amex card.

24:07

So it's paying off my cards, trying to get the

24:10

balances down. Augustine

24:13

had done what he had to do to get his team

24:15

home. But what

24:17

he didn't know was that the room

24:20

at the Cosmo was bugged.

24:24

The FBI

24:24

had the whole meeting

24:27

on video. And Dawkins,

24:29

investor who handed over the cash,

24:33

he was an undercover agent.

24:44

This episode is brought to you

24:46

by Dave. When you need money in a pinch,

24:49

Dave can help. It's a banking app that

24:51

can help you get up to $500 instantly. No

24:54

interest, late fees, or a credit check. Join

24:56

the millions already using Dave to get

24:58

financial relief and sign up for an extra

25:01

cash account to get up to $500 instantly. Go

25:04

to dave.com slash Spotify or

25:06

download the Dave app now. For terms and conditions,

25:08

go to dave.com slash legal instant transfer fees

25:10

apply, banking services provided by Evolve Bank and

25:12

Trust member FDIC.

25:14

Hi, I'm Ryan Reynolds, owner of Mint

25:16

Mobile. And I know it's hard to believe Mint can be any

25:18

good for just $15 a month. So

25:21

let's ask Wasim Iqnabi, one of

25:23

Mint's first customers, if he has any issues

25:25

with Mint. No, the service has been great. And

25:27

under my ownership, it's going to get even better. How?

25:31

No clue. Still $15 a month, though, right?

25:33

Yep. To learn more and see our logo,

25:35

go to mintmobile.com slash Spotify.

25:38

New activation and upfront payment for three month plan

25:40

required. Taxes and fees extra. Additional restrictions apply.

25:42

See mintmobile.com for full terms.

25:46

When Brad Augustine took

25:48

that envelope of cash and walked

25:51

out of the Cosmopolitan Hotel in

25:53

Vegas,

25:54

he became part of one of the

25:56

largest bribery scandals in

25:58

the history of college. sports.

26:01

The feds had set him up. But

26:05

why? All right, let's do it. I

26:07

talked with the prosecutors who pursued

26:09

the case to find out. My name

26:12

is Ted Discount. From 2012 until 2021,

26:14

I was an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the

26:18

Southern District of New York. The Southern

26:20

District is sometimes nicknamed the

26:23

Sovereign District of New York for its

26:25

political independence and ability

26:27

to take on nationally high profile

26:30

cases.

26:31

SDNY is the prosecutor's office

26:33

that sent ex-Trump attorney Michael

26:36

Cohen to prison. Former New York Assembly

26:38

Speaker Sheldon Silver. Bernie Madoff.

26:41

Michael Avenatti. Martha Stewart. Jeffrey

26:43

Epstein. And then Jillian Maxwell.

26:46

In 2022, SDNY

26:48

set its sights on imploded cryptocurrency

26:50

giant FTX and its founder,

26:53

Sam Bankman-Fried. SDNY

26:55

started investigating college basketball

26:58

thanks to Marty Blazer. He's

27:00

the now former financial adviser

27:02

who Augustine met at the Cosmo. Blazer

27:06

had gotten caught stealing money from

27:08

clients, mainly professional athletes,

27:11

and investing it in a number of failed

27:14

ventures. This included

27:16

a truly terrible horror

27:18

movie called A Resurrection. When

27:21

a client discovered that Blazer had forged

27:23

his signature to help pay for that, Blazer

27:26

had to pay him back, in part by

27:28

stealing from his other clients. In 2014,

27:33

Blazer offered to give the government

27:35

dirt on college sports as part

27:37

of a proposed plea bargain. See,

27:39

Blazer had already been part of a bribery

27:42

scandal involving college football, and

27:44

through mutual connections,

27:46

he knew what Dawkins and others

27:48

were up to with basketball coaches. Blazer

27:51

agreed to become an informant to

27:53

help the feds expose corruption in

27:55

college basketball.

27:56

Many investigations

27:59

start. with a tip, with a bit

28:01

of information. It was more of a bottom

28:04

up than a top down. This

28:06

is Andrew Goldstein. At the

28:08

start of the investigation, Goldstein

28:11

was chief of the unit handling the case,

28:13

but he left before the cases went to

28:15

trial. As we looked at these

28:18

relationships that Marty Blazer had, and

28:21

we saw the way that these financial

28:23

advisors and coaches were operating, then

28:26

it struck us there is some real corruption here. And

28:29

let's investigate that as

28:31

hard as we can investigate, and let's see how much of

28:33

that we can ferret out and figure

28:35

out who were the wrongdoers there.

28:37

Blazer told prosecutors

28:39

about a complicated web of college

28:42

coaches, apparel companies, financial

28:44

advisors, grassroots programs,

28:47

players' family members, and

28:49

large sums of money.

28:52

So the feds started investigating

28:55

the bag game.

28:59

They set up wiretaps and heard

29:01

a lot, including

29:03

a conspiracy to get athletes to

29:05

attend schools sponsored by

29:07

Adidas.

29:09

What's

29:12

going on, brother? Yeah, I'm sorry. This

29:15

is a phone conversation between an Adidas

29:17

consultant named Merle Code

29:21

and Adidas marketing executive

29:23

James Gatto,

29:24

who we heard about in the last episode.

29:27

They're talking about Nasir

29:29

Little, Augustine's star player.

29:31

So here's the deal. There's a kid named Nasir

29:33

Little who's top five or six in the country

29:35

school. Larenaga knows

29:37

guys really want.

29:38

Jim Larenaga is the head

29:40

coach of the University of Miami

29:43

and Adidas school. The

29:45

problem is Arizona's over the kid 150,

29:49

and we're trying to keep him from going through one

29:51

of their schools.

29:52

The University of Arizona

29:55

is a Nike school. It

30:00

was brought to me through Brad and

30:03

Christian who said, hey, do

30:06

you think Jim would be able to

30:08

keep them at Miami because they really

30:10

want the kid? And I said, I don't know the answer to that. I'll

30:13

have to ask Jim if he's willing to do that. I don't

30:15

know how and what and where

30:17

and why and blah, blah, blah. He's going

30:19

to be a senior, right? Yes,

30:22

he's a rising singer.

30:24

When

30:26

would they need the money? The

30:29

recorded calls gave government investigators

30:32

scraps of evidence, stray

30:34

mentions of names and dollar amounts.

30:37

But it's not like anyone gets on the phone

30:40

and explains the whole scheme like some

30:42

kind of movie villain. When people see

30:44

wiretaps on television

30:46

and in movies, there are a bunch of agents

30:48

sitting around listening to every word and the

30:50

entire story comes together. In

30:53

practice, you're usually talking about fitting

30:55

together bits and pieces and snippets of conversation

30:58

and trying to understand

31:01

what frequently coded conversations

31:04

are about.

31:05

In August 25th, Louisville

31:07

needs to get five grand in account for

31:11

the big kid from Florida that

31:13

Brad Augustine is a guy

31:16

who Jeff met and Marty met and

31:18

he's going to be expecting August

31:20

25th, five grand for the big kid that Louisville was

31:22

trying to get.

31:24

As the picture started to come into

31:26

focus, it became increasingly clear that

31:28

what we were listening to was a scheme to make a very

31:30

large payment to the family of a student

31:32

athlete in a manner that the scheme

31:35

participants themselves seem to understand

31:38

was highly problematic and

31:40

ultimately illegal.

31:41

The wiretaps show that

31:43

the conspirators were trying

31:46

to cover their tracks, not always

31:48

successfully. Here's

31:50

a call between Dawkins and TJ

31:52

Gasnola. The Adidas bag

31:55

man we met in the last episode. In

31:57

this call, Gasnola is...

31:59

scolding Dawkins from blabbing

32:02

about the $100,000 they were arranging

32:05

for a player to go to an Adidas school.

32:06

I think the

32:09

world of you, and I take care of you, that

32:11

shit right there, I don't talk. Like that

32:13

shit right there gets people in trouble. You

32:15

can say, you can do this, y'all. If

32:17

you go here, I can take care of this. I get that, that's

32:19

fine. But names and money, you can't do

32:22

that. Because

32:24

I like this guy a lot, and I'm going to help him. And

32:27

I brought order back to the situation yesterday,

32:29

because God knows there's a bunch of fucking idiots

32:31

around me. I'm allowing me to do this, so shut the

32:34

fuck up.

32:35

The FBI tried to get the conspirators

32:37

to explain their scheme on the record.

32:40

Here's Adidas consultant Merle

32:42

Code again laying out the bag

32:45

game in a meeting with undercover agents.

32:49

It's a corrupt space as it is, and cheating

32:52

is cheating. When I give you a dollar, $100,000, or I get

32:54

your mom and dad jobs, it's

32:56

cheating, right? So

32:59

in some form of fashion, do North

33:01

Carolina, Syracuse, and Kentucky, all

33:03

of the schools are doing something to help your kids.

33:06

That's just a part of the space. The

33:08

FBI also set up a meeting with

33:11

Christian Dawkins and his business associates

33:13

on a two-story yacht in a Manhattan

33:16

marina with undercover agents Jill

33:18

Bailey and Jeff D'Angelo. The

33:21

agents were posing as a young, wealthy couple.

33:23

D'Angelo wore khaki pants, berry

33:26

boat shoes, and a sweater tied around his

33:28

neck. Bailey and D'Angelo

33:30

were supposedly celebrating their new

33:33

business venture with Dawkins to pay for top

33:35

college basketball recruits. They

33:37

had a duffel bag with tens

33:40

of thousands of dollars in cash to seal

33:42

the deal. The FBI agents

33:44

brought wine and a hidden

33:46

camera.

33:47

This is a way to do business,

33:49

right, Christian? Thank you. I

33:51

like it so much. The conspirators took the

33:54

money, but later they

33:56

started to get a little nervous about

33:59

Bailey and D'Angelo.

33:59

Angelo, their new business

34:01

partners. In this

34:03

call, Code and Dawkins are

34:05

talking about how odd it is that

34:08

Google doesn't turn up anything on their

34:10

two investors. Here's

34:12

what, here's just going through this shit.

34:15

I mean, you and I protect ourselves,

34:17

man, and I'm just saying that's just as a guy who's

34:19

real skeptical about this shit.

34:22

You and I need to get some background information on Jeff

34:25

and his chick. Okay.

34:27

Like, I'm just

34:29

telling you to protect your own ass and where she come

34:31

from or where her money come from. Your

34:33

name is going to be tied to it. My name is going

34:35

to be tied to it. Until I feel good

34:37

about these folks, I don't know. And I'm

34:39

looking up Jeff D'Angelo and can't find nothing on

34:42

him, and that shit is really concerning me.

34:44

Those misgivings didn't

34:47

keep Dawkins and Code from continuing

34:49

to do business with the undercover agents.

34:54

So using the recorded phone calls,

34:57

meetings with undercover agents, and other

34:59

evidence like emails and text messages,

35:02

SDNY built a case.

35:05

Their investigation rolled up guys

35:07

like Christian Dawkins and TJ Gasnola,

35:10

as well as Merle Code, James Gatto,

35:13

and Brad Augustine.

35:15

The meeting on the top floor

35:18

of the Cosmo Hotel in Las Vegas

35:20

was a key piece of the government's

35:22

evidence.

35:23

And a side note, it

35:26

came out years later that

35:28

one of the FBI agents there that

35:30

day removed thousands of dollars

35:33

in government cash from the room safe

35:35

and lost it playing blackjack at

35:37

the casino.

35:39

He eventually pleaded guilty to one

35:41

misdemeanor count of conversion of government

35:43

money. The FBI denied

35:46

all of our interview requests for this series.

35:51

So after that Vegas hotel sting,

35:54

the FBI had Augustine on

35:56

tape agreeing to steer a player

35:58

to the University of Louisville.

35:59

in exchange for just

36:02

under $13,000. A

36:05

few weeks after Augustine took the money

36:07

from the meeting in Vegas, he got

36:09

the call from Dawkins inviting him to

36:11

New York City to meet his investor,

36:14

the undercover agent Jill Bailey. The

36:18

morning Dawkins and Bailey were supposed

36:20

to meet with Augustine, the FBI

36:22

arrested Dawkins in his room at the W

36:25

Hotel, which brings

36:27

us back to Times Square, where

36:30

Augustine learned he was indicted on

36:32

Twitter.

36:34

Back

36:34

home, his wife Alexa

36:36

was also getting the news. By

36:39

the time I get home, my phone is blowing

36:41

up. Just text after

36:43

text, phone call after phone call. My phone actually

36:46

froze. And

36:48

when it finally unfroze, I answered

36:50

it. The first person who was calling in was a

36:52

mutual friend of ours. And at this point

36:54

I had no idea what was going on. And

36:57

I'm so confused and he's like, just

36:59

turn on ESPN right now.

37:00

Let's bring in our basketball insider, Jeff

37:02

Goodman. And Jeff, when they say the investigation

37:04

continues, you think, uh-oh,

37:07

what else is there? So what else is there? That's

37:09

exactly what I think, Neil. And we don't

37:11

know exactly what there's going to be, but

37:13

what we do know is there's 10 people that

37:16

have been arrested that could all roll

37:19

and give other names to the FBI.

37:23

Augustine didn't know what was happening

37:25

or why, just that

37:27

he was in trouble. First

37:30

he called Alexa and then

37:32

he called the FBI to turn

37:34

himself in. And I just sat there

37:37

and 45 minutes later, four

37:39

guys in suits get off the elevator. From

37:43

there, they took my phone, took my computer,

37:45

took my backpack and walked me downstairs.

37:48

And they

37:51

handcuffed me and put me in the back of a car. And

37:53

so I'm sitting in the back of a Crown Vic with

37:56

my hands cuffed behind my back, with a Fed

37:59

on my left and my right.

37:59

two in the front seat. And you

38:02

know, mind you, they're doing their job, right? Oh, you're going

38:04

to jail, you're going to prison for 80 years

38:06

and you have no idea. You know, you

38:08

better, you better tell us everything we want to

38:10

know. And I just remember at one point, like, like laughing. Like,

38:13

what are you guys talking about? Like, what

38:15

did I do? And I just

38:17

remember asking that question over, like, guys,

38:20

why am I here?

38:22

Brad Augustine knew it was a violation

38:25

of NCAA rules to take shoe company

38:27

money for steering players to certain schools,

38:30

but

38:30

he had no idea it was

38:32

a crime.

38:34

And as the FBI made its arrests

38:36

in the case, that was a common

38:38

reaction. When you tell me bribery

38:41

scandal, like I

38:43

imagine a scene from Goodfellas or something like

38:45

that. I mean, I thought the FBI only showed

38:48

up when like the mob was involved.

38:50

That's ESPN's Myron

38:52

Medcalf again. Literally, I did, I honestly

38:55

didn't know, like, I didn't know the FBI

38:57

could get involved with

39:00

something like college basketball. At

39:02

these events on the circuit, there's

39:06

not this sense of evil happening. The

39:09

FBI made it that that's

39:11

not what's happening, man. Of course,

39:13

you know, money's exchanging

39:16

hands. And of course, you understand that

39:18

things are happening that

39:20

would be NCAA violations. Are

39:22

they like violations? Everybody's

39:26

in it, man. If this thing is dirty,

39:29

we all got mud on us, man. All of us. Coming

39:34

up in our next episode, prosecutors

39:38

announced the arrests and outlined

39:40

the bag game. Coaches

39:43

at some of the nation's top programs,

39:46

soliciting and accepting cash

39:48

bribes. There were discussions primarily

39:50

what's going to be the next shoe to drop. How

39:53

far is this going to go?

39:55

And Billy Preston

39:58

waits to hear his name in the the

40:00

NBA draft. If I was able to play

40:02

that whole year at KU, it would have been a whole different

40:04

outcome. That's in

40:06

the next and final episode

40:09

of

40:09

The Bag Game. The

40:26

Bag Game is based on reporting by

40:28

me, Paula Levine and Mark Schlebau

40:31

for ESPN's investigative unit. Senior

40:34

producer is Matt Frasica. Senior

40:37

editorial producer is Eve Trowe.

40:40

Line producer is Kath Sankey. Associate

40:43

producers are Gus Navarro and Megan

40:45

Coyle. Production assistants

40:47

are Diamante McElvey and Isabella

40:50

Seaman. Archival producers

40:52

are Megan Coyle and G. Young Park.

40:55

Music

40:56

by Braxton Cook with additional

40:58

composition, scoring and sound design

41:00

by Hannes Brown.

Unlock more with Podchaser Pro

  • Audience Insights
  • Contact Information
  • Demographics
  • Charts
  • Sponsor History
  • and More!
Pro Features