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This nation time has come

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to say goodbye. I'm forever

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grateful for the opportunity coach of Toronto Maple

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Leafs. It's a dream come true for a boy from

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Brampton. I didn't get

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it done in the playoffs. I didn't help push our team

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over the line and deliver. I accept

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responsibility for that. No

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excuses. That's the job. I didn't get

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it done. The

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Carolina Hurricanes on the brink.

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Welcome to 32 thoughts. The podcast

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presented by the GMC, Sierra elevation

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and Elliott's before we get into

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the Carolina hurricanes and the

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New York Rangers and how the New York Rangers

0:35

refuse to lose in this post season. A

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quick update. We may be doing

0:39

an ad onto this podcast, depending

0:41

on what happens during

0:44

the Maple Leafs press conference on Friday

0:46

morning with Keith Pelly, Brendan

0:48

Shanahan and Brad Trilliving. So you may

0:50

end up with some type of bonus

0:54

pod or bonus addition

0:56

to this pod. It could

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be a double Friday for you. It depends on

1:01

what happens on Friday morning. It depends on if

1:03

the Leafs are boring or they

1:05

are interesting. The challenge

1:07

is theirs. Boring.

1:10

No second pod. Interesting.

1:12

Second pod. Pelly,

1:15

Shanahan, Trilliving. This is

1:17

all over to you

1:19

now. In the meantime, the

1:22

New York Rangers may never

1:25

lose another game again. You

1:27

know, Elliott, it's one thing to sweep

1:30

the Washington Capitals. A team

1:32

that was, what were they? Dash 37 going

1:34

into the end of the post season. You said to

1:36

yourself, okay, well, someone had to get that spot. So

1:39

not exactly a surprise that the Rangers did

1:41

to the Washington Capitals. What

1:43

the Rangers did to the Washington Capitals. But

1:46

this is the Carolina Hurricanes and

1:48

no, the Kings have played well, but

1:50

the Rangers have just been that much

1:52

better. Is a lot of it Shosh

1:54

Durkin? Yes, but it's not only Shosh

1:56

Durkin. Our Temi Panera and the overtime

1:59

hero on Thursday, Thursday night, he scores the

2:01

OT winner, but it wasn't as

2:03

if it was a team full of passengers here and

2:05

the big dog is getting it done. Just

2:07

about everybody contributed in this one.

2:10

Elliot, flat out, full stop. This

2:13

is impressive what we're seeing from the Rangers. It

2:17

sure is. And people could say,

2:19

oh, they're getting out shot. That

2:21

doesn't really bother me because I

2:23

see games where a team gets out shot

2:26

and they're completely on the run most of

2:28

the night and they escape with victories by

2:30

the skin of their teeth. I'm

2:32

not seeing that from the Rangers. Yes,

2:34

they're getting out shot, but I don't

2:36

feel they're getting buried. I don't feel

2:38

they're out of control. I think

2:41

they've got a plan. They never

2:43

seem to lose their confidence. They're

2:45

constantly fighting and counteracting and

2:47

going right back at the

2:49

hurricanes. This is a team that is

2:51

getting out shot, but it is not a

2:54

team that is getting dominated. The only negative,

2:56

the only negative I thought for New

2:58

York in game number three was

3:01

that Philip Heedel did not score. That

3:03

is the only thing that prevented this from being...

3:06

He almost did. I was just saying, he almost

3:08

did, but he got poke checked by

3:11

Kuchekov. Poke check off,

3:13

as somebody called him because he did it a couple

3:15

of times. But other than that, it

3:17

was a nine and a half out of 10 night

3:19

for the Rangers. I thought they were great. They

3:23

are dominating Carolina's power play

3:26

and they scored a short handed goal off a

3:28

great effort from Kreider. There was nothing

3:30

I would look at from the Rangers on this particular

3:32

night and said that really worried me. They

3:35

kept their composure. D'Angelo

3:38

laid his gloves down and wanted to fight someone.

3:41

It's almost to me like they've been told,

3:45

you are not to engage him. Whatever

3:47

he does, you leave it alone. They're

3:50

disciplined, they're calm, they're

3:52

composed. At the end of the

3:54

day, when things go

3:57

wrong, they believe in the guy

3:59

behind them. to bail them out

4:01

of all situations. It's

4:03

a great recipe for success. It really is.

4:07

Speaking of D'Angelo, the

4:09

spear on Jacob Truba at that point

4:11

was like 10 minutes and 30 seconds

4:13

remaining in the period. Just,

4:16

ugh, I mean you've seen it before from that

4:18

player, but you think it to yourself. You're down

4:21

to nothing in the series. At that point it's

4:23

two to one, and what are

4:26

you thinking at that moment? There were

4:28

a few things. I'm glad you mentioned that Crieder play,

4:30

and I like the point that Kevin made on the

4:32

show, which was,

4:34

you know, Crieder's out there killing

4:36

the penalty, and it's a lot

4:38

of standing and not moving, and

4:41

then everything happens so suddenly. First

4:45

of all, Crieder's a super fast

4:47

player, but man, did he ever

4:50

burn Brent Burns to

4:52

get open from Mika Zabana-Jad. He

4:54

was a bullet train getting

4:56

to that open ice. It was, honestly, that

4:59

shorthand goal was a thing of beauty. It

5:01

was. Whether it was Zabana-Jad pass

5:03

or the finish by Chris Crieder, just getting into

5:05

that position to get that ice, and you saw

5:07

Brent Burns just chugging, chugging, chugging to

5:10

try to keep up with Chris Crieder, and good luck. There

5:13

was a whole lot of interesting in this game. One thing

5:15

I do want to mention, too, if

5:17

the Carolina Hurricanes would have won this thing,

5:19

what would we be talking about? Svetchnikov at

5:21

the top. He was great. Because he was

5:23

excellent in that game. I thought he was

5:26

excellent. I thought Neches was dangerous.

5:28

I thought for sure he was going to score.

5:30

I thought he was very dangerous,

5:32

especially early in the game. To

5:34

the Hurricanes, this has to feel like the

5:37

gods are cruel. Last

5:39

year, they go to the Eastern Conference Final.

5:41

They cannot score. They

5:43

break their traditions. They bend from

5:45

their principles. They go hard after

5:47

rentals who should alleviate

5:49

this problem, and they

5:51

still are having trouble scoring. And

5:55

the power play we mentioned, it's 0-4, and it's minus

5:57

now in this series. because

6:00

the Rangers have the short-handed goal.

6:03

It just, again, this is the

6:05

kind of thing that I, I

6:07

have to go back and I have to look

6:09

at it, but just from the eye test, it

6:12

just seems like it's very perimeter. And

6:15

they just don't get inside enough.

6:18

Again, I

6:20

have to look at it some more, but

6:22

that was one of the things that really struck me. I have

6:24

to go back and I have to like, sorry,

6:28

that was one of the things that really struck me. Eye

6:30

test versus evidence, I'll check the

6:33

evidence. It just seemed very perimeter-y.

6:37

You know, on Saturday, Elliot,

6:39

we talked a lot about,

6:42

we talked a lot about a couple of players in

6:44

another overtime game, one netminder and

6:47

one goaltender, Samsonoff and

6:49

Morgan Riley. And in

6:51

this one, do we make a, although

6:53

the play was different, are

6:56

we having the same type of

6:58

conversation around Pyotr Kuchetkov and Dmitry

7:00

Orlov and their

7:03

mishandling of the puck, or in

7:05

Kuchetkov's case, his ignorance of

7:07

the puck as it gets rimmed around? One

7:10

of the things that's really interesting to me is

7:12

that there have been now two major overtime goals

7:14

scored because the goalie didn't want to play the

7:17

puck, right? One was Samsonoff

7:19

in game seven Toronto, and the other

7:21

was Kuchetkov in this particular game for

7:23

the Hurricanes. And Russian

7:25

goalies kind of have a

7:27

reputation as bad puck

7:30

handlers. I'm, you know, off the

7:32

top of my head, I'm sure there are exceptions,

7:34

but generally the feeling is

7:37

because of the wider ice, it's

7:39

not as valuable to them, and they don't really

7:41

learn it. And now we've

7:43

seen two examples where it really burned

7:46

the team they played for. Now, the

7:48

one thing I wondered about, and Kevin

7:50

said that was not an excuse because

7:52

it wasn't that bad, I

7:54

thought the puck got around the net really fast. And

7:56

if you watch it, Orlov has the

7:59

Rangers right off the bat. On top of the

8:01

run on top of them as he touches

8:03

the park. So I kind of thought you

8:05

know, maybe he saw the danger and said

8:07

i cannot leave my net but when I

8:09

sit on air I had a couple of

8:12

people who reached out to text me to

8:14

see that at this level you have to

8:16

be able to handle those kinds of zone

8:18

entries and rams. And. When

8:20

you can't. Those. Are the kinds

8:23

of things that happen. The puck ends up in

8:25

your net. What? Do you think game

8:27

for could check cover anderson. Oh. Boy

8:29

I don't know that. I mean

8:31

may be outside of the. That.

8:35

That overtime goal the we just talked

8:37

about. I'm not sure that I'm pinning

8:39

any of those goals on cutchet costs.

8:42

But. Will. Ride Brenda

8:45

More say about why they didn't

8:47

go to Anderson on Thursday night.

8:49

Rare said they wanted to give

8:52

him rest. So. Does that

8:54

mean that he's going Saturday or he would

8:56

go Saturday regardless of what the outcome was

8:58

In Game three, that's where I'm one where

9:00

I don't have a refugee with this one

9:03

back to And Herzliya. I.

9:05

Just wondered about excuse why he was

9:07

implying if it's rest then your eyes

9:09

on Anderson for Saturday's Sweep Saturday. Potentially

9:11

like I'll tell you man. I

9:14

could not have been more wrong or had

9:16

a worse read. Based on what we saw

9:19

in the playoffs last year in the opening

9:21

round, I thought this was going to be

9:23

your New Jersey Devils be to New York

9:25

Rangers the way that they did, I thought

9:27

this was gonna be and a no injuries

9:29

were a factor for the New Jersey Devils

9:31

is here and certainly goaltending was as well.

9:33

but I thought this was gonna be a

9:35

sort of symbolic passing of the torch and

9:37

this was going to be the rise of

9:39

the Devil's and the beginning of the decline

9:41

of the New York Rangers. I could not

9:43

have been more wrong. This. Is super impressed

9:45

Actually I disagree with that doing here you

9:47

are wrong all the time but you were

9:49

have as I owed a lot of people

9:51

thought that I you know I'm hand well

9:53

as I have to do is I thought

9:55

I was wrong ones but I was wrong

9:57

ones. L A but I was mistaken. You

10:01

know the the other thing too is in and

10:03

you'd We talked and the last part has been

10:05

a lot a conversation about. Recycling.

10:07

Coaches. And.

10:10

Everybody thought Peter Laviolette was. A.

10:12

Recycled Coach. How

10:14

many? How many Rangers fans or

10:16

are inspired by the hiring of Peter

10:18

Laviolette? What? I mean

10:21

part of it is. I mean a part of

10:23

part of it. Is they who? he? He's he's

10:25

He's coached teams that have competed hard against Rangers

10:27

for so many years, has no our through the

10:29

net all. and I don't buy it. I do.

10:31

I don't buy that. I think that there's a

10:33

lot of people out there. lox. Ah, I'm all

10:35

for. I. Knew.

10:38

Coaches, Coaches getting second chances. Everything!

10:40

I I always want to see

10:42

people get the opportunity to prove

10:44

themselves, but I think there is

10:46

definitely a lot of. Now.

10:49

The reaction is ah, same old

10:51

guys, same old guys, same old

10:54

guy. And in some cases that's

10:56

true. I'm not going to with

10:58

it, but each case has to

11:00

be seen on it's own merits

11:02

and I would wonder how many

11:04

Rangers fans. Specially lot of the

11:07

really online ones. Would. Say

11:09

I would go back a year

11:11

and say boy was I wrong

11:13

about Peter Laviolette cause a lot

11:15

of the buttons he has pushed.

11:17

Especially. With their most

11:19

important. Player: That he had

11:21

to fix. Alexi. Laugh or

11:24

year? He. He

11:26

pushed the right buttons and this is

11:28

your you look at pier to bore.

11:31

He's coached allotted teams. You

11:35

know your look at it. Obviously Laviolette

11:37

has coached. A lot of

11:39

teams your there's some fresh ones.

11:42

Jarrod Bednar, Is a fresh

11:44

guy on his first team. has a

11:46

Stanley cup Rob Brydon more fresh guard

11:48

his first team average troubles year but

11:51

he's rejuvenated that franchise. I think it

11:53

just goes to show you that. A

11:56

lot of us could have a lot more of an

11:58

open mind. I'm. So these

12:00

hirings. Sometimes were

12:02

right. And. Sometimes were very, very

12:05

wrong. So Thursday on the radio show

12:07

Add Coil la Villette from the Athletic

12:09

on the program node he pointed out

12:11

hadn't thought about that. What's at the

12:13

last time Peter Laviolette was at Pnc

12:16

Arena, the offer a playoff game was

12:18

Game seven. Two Thousand Six. Two.

12:21

Thousand Six. last time he was

12:23

there and victorious again he was

12:25

and we'll see what happens. Saturday

12:27

hop old eyes are a year.

12:30

Just let us leave like this.

12:32

Okay number one. all of a

12:34

sudden. Much. Quicker

12:37

than anyone thought. This is a

12:39

huge game. For. The

12:41

hurricanes not only the

12:43

obvious reasons, but also.

12:46

Carolina has a lot of decisions to

12:48

make. On the ice with their

12:50

roster. And. In.

12:52

Their organization. There. Is

12:55

No way. The. Hurricanes thought they

12:57

were going to have to make them

12:59

this quickly or at least accelerate the

13:01

process of making them at this time.

13:04

There. Is no way that a lot

13:06

of fans and media and other teams

13:09

would have thought this would be the

13:11

case. but all of a sudden we

13:13

are. Thirty. Six hours

13:15

away. By the time this broadcasts

13:17

podcast Robs of Carolina starting to

13:20

make some very big decisions. And.

13:23

You have to be very careful. Like

13:26

Tom Dunn and who runs an organization.

13:29

He does not make decisions

13:31

based on emotion. He bases

13:33

them all on probability. And.

13:37

But there's no question if they go down.

13:40

The. Way they're in danger of going

13:43

down, it's gonna be very very emotional.

13:45

Soul. These. Next

13:47

few days. Are are

13:50

are gonna be really. Tense.

13:52

And the triangle. so there's no. Doubt.

13:55

About than what you getting

13:57

at. here is a number

13:59

of things. Ride Brenda More

14:01

is chaotic Contract Other yeah

14:03

years on expiring Deals include

14:05

terrifying and include J Cancel

14:07

include Jordan Martin include Stephen

14:09

Nascent, Include. Brady Shea

14:12

and Brett Patchy and Twenty

14:14

De Angelo and Jail and

14:16

Chatfield and. Here's. Another

14:19

interesting name. Who. Is a restricted

14:21

free agent with arbitration rates. Went up

14:23

to have this big huge discussion. Now

14:25

see what happens in game four? Five

14:27

will have along the series lasts. Martin.

14:30

Nature's. Gathered.

14:32

All names we could be talking about. On

14:34

the next podcast there's a lotta there's a

14:36

lot of decisions you made your and I

14:39

have to shout out the funniest thing I

14:41

saw this man was during the game after

14:43

one of the Rangers goals. There was a

14:45

a female Ranger fan in a in New

14:48

York jersey is she was sitting next to

14:50

to Hurricane fans i assume a father and

14:52

son and. And. They

14:54

were wearing blue red lucho

14:56

leave Brave masks. And.

14:59

I'm relaxing early like Carolina Hurricanes thou

15:01

literally realise that you are red and

15:03

they were clearly I think they were

15:05

her Kilgannon receives like they were clearly

15:07

Hurricanes usury, Japan and their Hurricanes fan

15:09

base. And I wonder if they all

15:11

knew each other because the woman reaches

15:13

out to fist pump the young kid.

15:16

And. You can tell he wants his

15:18

part of this. He's a hurricane fan.

15:20

Like, why would she be reaching out

15:23

but it's mob A. I wondered if

15:25

it was, I figure had to be.

15:27

And the kid who's isn't it with

15:29

this little cute kid, he just begrudgingly

15:32

dabs her off. A focus our lives.

15:34

Man that it's tough. tough. Sport.

15:40

Sally, it's Sports Allies on

15:42

Saturday or as Rangers fans

15:44

are hoping sweep. Saturday.

15:46

Meanwhile, I'll yeah games you would really. Colorado

15:49

Avalanche, any Dallas Stars was an interesting one

15:51

to say the least. For a couple of

15:53

different notes, the

15:55

dallas stars jump out to a for nothing

15:58

lead heading into the third think they're tucked

16:00

away cruise control not

16:02

so fast we've seen Colorado do this before

16:04

and they almost did it again Kivoranta makes

16:06

it four to one Brandon Duham four to

16:08

two Valerian Nachushkin gets them

16:10

within one and Essel in Dell scores

16:12

the empty netter as Dallas

16:15

Stars fans can exhale what did you

16:17

make of this one five three is

16:19

the final the series is now tied

16:21

at once no matter

16:23

what lead the Dallas Stars

16:26

have in the series it

16:28

is not safe it could

16:31

be eight nothing with four minutes to go

16:33

and at the very least it's gonna

16:35

end up 8-6 the

16:37

best news for Dallas obviously hints

16:39

got going Sagan scored Peter

16:42

DuBois like coaches are hot in

16:44

these playoffs Jim Montgomery

16:46

calls out David Posternak he

16:49

scores the series winning goal Peter DuBois

16:51

mentioned some of these guys got to

16:53

start scoring Rupay Hintz has a

16:55

big night Tyler Sagan gets his first of

16:57

the playoffs Haskinen with a

17:00

pair two Haskinen with a pair two so you

17:02

know Brindemore has got to do

17:04

something he was pretty calm after game three

17:07

saying they're trying the power play is not

17:09

going very well on the off

17:11

day he's gonna have to rip someone so

17:13

the Hurricanes can start scoring I thought I

17:17

thought Tannib in the last couple minutes of the game

17:19

was a beast I thought suitor

17:21

in the last couple minutes of the

17:23

game was very good although he probably

17:26

shouldn't have played the puck after the

17:28

high stick he probably should have made

17:30

Colorado play it but other than that

17:32

eat some clock eat some clock other

17:35

than that I thought suitor was was

17:37

very good stars were

17:39

much better they probably

17:41

deserve better than a split but

17:44

they'll take it they'll go to Denver

17:46

tide 1-1 and we're gonna be watching

17:48

this series for a long time now

17:51

a couple of other things I want to mention this one the

17:53

Jamie Ben hit on on caves behind

17:56

the net so automatically and

17:58

again I think we're on the same page this

18:00

one. I liked that they do it. Call

18:02

the five, review it. It

18:04

was ruled no penalty on this

18:06

one. I

18:09

have no problem with that one. This one

18:11

was a real tough hard hit by a

18:13

big strong Jamie Ben. Unfortunately

18:16

for Devontaise, he kind of gets

18:18

sandwiched. He gets hit by Jamie

18:20

Ben and then gets hurled into

18:22

Wyatt Johnston as well and

18:25

had his head down behind the net,

18:27

all of it. Again, every now

18:29

and then we get these reminders. This

18:31

is a violent game played by big

18:34

strong athletes. Elliot, your thoughts on the

18:36

Jamie Ben Devontaise hit? I worked a

18:38

game a few years ago. It was

18:41

Toronto at Dallas and

18:44

Jamie Ben was and Jake Muzzin was

18:46

still playing for the lease and he

18:48

was behind the net, somewhat similarly to

18:50

Taives with his back turned

18:53

and Ben had a chance to just

18:55

steamroll him and he peeled off at

18:57

the last minute. I

19:00

was told that after that

19:02

play happened, because it was a national

19:04

game, it was a Wednesday national game,

19:07

and I was told that after that

19:09

play happened, it started getting used in

19:12

the player safety videos that they would show

19:14

to teams as what to

19:16

do. That the

19:18

Jamie Ben could have murdered Jake Muzzin

19:20

on this play, but

19:23

Muzzin was so vulnerable with

19:25

his back to him that

19:28

he peeled off and didn't do it.

19:30

So this is a guy who knows

19:33

right from wrong. The other

19:35

thing about Ben is he has had,

19:38

thanks to Joey Kenward, who

19:40

was very helpful to me today, I showed him out

19:43

on the air too, Ben

19:45

only has one major penalty

19:47

in his playoff career and

19:50

that was the bad one he took

19:52

on Mark Stone last season that got

19:54

him suspended in the Western Conference Final.

19:57

He's played 92 career got

20:00

one major penalty. So even

20:02

though he's a horse, he's big,

20:04

he's strong, he's nasty and he's

20:06

tough, he is not a dirty

20:09

player. I agreed with the

20:11

five-minute major review. I agreed

20:13

with the call. If

20:15

they wanted to call him two minutes for

20:17

charging, I didn't think there was any problem

20:20

with doing that, although charging seems to have

20:22

disappeared from the rule book. What's

20:24

the charge? Everybody moves their feet all the

20:26

time. What's the charge? Okay, there you go.

20:28

But that was not a major or

20:31

an ejection or a game

20:33

misconduct. It was a violent

20:35

hit, but it

20:37

wasn't a bad hit. Jamie

20:39

Ben, for everything that people

20:42

may think, has

20:44

generally been under pressure a pretty

20:47

clean player with one insane

20:50

variation off it last year

20:52

against Vegas. I

20:55

agree with the call. If they would have said

20:57

two, I could have dealt with it, but I

21:00

agreed with the call. Agreed

21:03

with the call, felt horrible for Devontae

21:05

at that moment, obviously had to leave

21:07

the game. Thankfully, he came back. Yes.

21:10

You want guys to be okay. Totally.

21:14

One other thing that I want to mention in this one, Elliott, before we

21:16

move on and get to some news, for

21:19

the second game in a row, Dallas

21:21

was called for embellishment. Now,

21:24

in the first game, it was

21:26

a Josh Manson hook and

21:28

then Rupay Hinns called on the

21:31

embellishments. And then

21:33

Thursday night, it was Kiviransa

21:35

with the interference on Mason

21:37

Marchments, who the officials

21:40

ruled went down a little bit

21:42

easy. And he was called for

21:44

embellishment as well. And

21:46

finally, if you go back to the Ranger

21:48

Carolina hurricane game as well, there was the

21:51

Alex Venberg hold and the Andre Sveschnikov embellishment

21:53

call. Yeah, which I thought I did not

21:55

like that call at all because I thought

21:57

Sveschnikov was diving to make a play at

21:59

the pie. I don't

22:01

disagree. The more so the point

22:03

is it really looks as if officials

22:05

are looking for this call. They hate

22:08

it. Like it happens once,

22:10

it happens once, and happens

22:12

twice. What's going on here? It happens three times.

22:14

I have to feel

22:16

that they're looking for. Oh. Do you agree?

22:18

You know what Jeff, if

22:20

you were a detective, no crime would

22:22

ever get solved. You just figured this out now? No

22:24

but it's just like

22:27

in the last couple of days.

22:29

They're like really looking for embellishment

22:31

calls here. Well

22:33

Talkit had said it so it's

22:35

pretty clear and you're right. I

22:38

don't always agree with what they

22:40

rule is embellishment but I do

22:42

agree generally embellishment equals bad. You

22:44

know what else we're seeing a

22:46

lot of? Too many men.

22:48

Yes. Yes. We

22:51

had Vancouver in the first minute. Colorado

22:55

got what two tonight? The Rangers got

22:57

one. A lot

23:00

of too many men penalties. There

23:06

was this phenomenon about 10-15 years ago. Remember in the

23:10

playoffs, I can't remember what year it was specifically, I think

23:12

it was like 10 or 15 years ago where

23:15

there was like every game there

23:17

was a too many men on the ice call

23:19

and teams online changes would just throw the puck

23:22

at the bench and inevitably officials would count and

23:24

sure enough there were too many men on the

23:26

ice. It became a tactic and

23:28

then I think teams were warned hey stop doing that because

23:30

you're not gonna get the call but you're right embellishment

23:34

is up recently and too many men

23:36

is up as well. Exciting

23:39

game. It is a 5-3

23:41

final for the Dallas Stars. Look forward

23:44

to five more games of that. Yes

23:47

please send all of it. Okay

23:49

Elliot so the news on Thursday involved the part

23:51

of me beliefs and the dismissal of Sheldon Keefe

23:53

as the head coach of said franchise. Now something

23:55

I mentioned to you on the radio show as

23:57

well which still to me the more that I

24:00

think about it is stunning, but

24:02

we've all seen how coaches in that

24:04

position have gone this year. Lindy

24:06

Ruff was hired by the Buffalo Sabres on April 22nd.

24:11

And right now he's the 26th

24:13

longest tenured coach in the NHL,

24:15

and he hasn't coached a single

24:18

game yet for the Buffalo

24:20

Sabres. That's where we're at with

24:22

coaches. And we'll talk plenty more

24:24

about coaches in upcoming podcasts. Sheldon

24:27

Keefe fired as head coach of the

24:29

Toronto Maple Leafs. He really made

24:31

a real nice thank you video thanking Maple

24:34

Leafs fans and the organization, etc. A

24:37

real nice gesture by Sheldon Keefe. Your

24:39

thoughts on what we saw on Thursday

24:41

morning? Mark Hanson-Louis

24:43

is fifth, by the way. Oh,

24:47

I know. And he was hired like five minutes ago. That

24:50

is insane. Yeah.

24:53

Honestly, I think everybody

24:55

knew, including Sheldon Keefe himself,

24:58

that this was going to happen. If

25:00

you watched him on Monday, he

25:02

saw it. He saw

25:04

the future like an

25:07

Oracle. He knew this was going to

25:09

happen. So

25:11

I don't think anybody is surprised. I

25:13

had some people say to me that they thought

25:16

the Maple Leafs might announce a new coach at

25:18

their media conference on Friday. I

25:20

don't believe that is true. I think

25:22

they're going to go through a process

25:24

here. And I think you could

25:26

see some people visiting them very,

25:28

very soon, if not this weekend.

25:32

Look, I think I've said a

25:34

lot about Keefe over the last few days. Everybody

25:36

knows how I feel. I think he

25:38

did a great job this regular season. I,

25:42

you know, he, with

25:45

Matthews hurting for games five

25:48

and six, he said, guys,

25:50

there's only one way to win. And

25:53

with him back in game seven, they almost

25:55

won the series from 3-1 down, playing their

25:58

Best Offensive Hockey. Maybe

26:00

of his entire tenure?

26:03

They. They came that close

26:06

and. If they do

26:08

when we're talking about Jim Montgomery's

26:10

future and changes the Boston Bruins

26:12

are making instead of this. but

26:15

that's life. That's the way it

26:17

goes. That's life in the big

26:19

city. We all saw this coming

26:21

now. Jeff, As I said on

26:23

your show. I believe

26:25

that Brendan Shanahan will be back

26:27

next season for the May Police.

26:29

I don't know what exactly they're

26:31

gonna win outs. I don't know

26:34

if they're going to announce. East

26:37

he's staying on and that's all we're

26:39

going to say. I don't know if

26:41

they're going to announce he's gonna finish

26:43

the last year of his deal and

26:45

then we'll figure it out by. One

26:48

of the things I heard is that

26:50

Keep Belly wanted to be at this

26:52

media conference and that it was gonna

26:54

happen at a time where he was

26:56

going to be able to attend. And

26:59

so that's Friday and I've I don't

27:01

know if he's gonna give a vote

27:03

of confidence to Shanahan or or Tree

27:05

Living or if. It's gonna be a

27:07

sign that he's about to become more

27:10

involved. I'm not sure what this is

27:12

all gonna mean, but he wanted to

27:14

be there. He's gonna be there and

27:16

I think Cheney and is gonna be

27:18

back for another year or we'll see

27:20

what gets announced on Friday morning, barring

27:23

any other availabilities that I'm not expecting.

27:26

I. Think the to lead contenders for

27:28

this job or Craig Berube a.

27:30

And Todd Mclellan. Now.

27:34

I think Baru Bay. Has.

27:38

Had some serious talks with

27:41

New Jersey. But. New

27:43

Jersey. Kind of

27:45

seems to be in a point where they're

27:47

deciding. Between. Baru. They.

27:50

Would Croft. Possibly.

27:53

Mcloughlin. And may

27:55

be. Anyone. Else I

27:57

might be missing Mcclellan I think.

27:59

I think. Toronto would be the

28:01

fifth team that would

28:03

interview McClellan over this

28:05

cycle. And I think,

28:09

I think Seattle is very serious about

28:11

McClellan. And I think they're

28:15

now two of those teams are

28:17

St. Louis and Ottawa, and they've

28:19

hired their coaches. So that

28:22

leaves Seattle. That leaves

28:24

New Jersey. That leaves

28:26

Toronto. I'm not sure

28:28

yet about Winnipeg. But I

28:30

think that McClellan, I

28:33

think Seattle is interested. I think the Devils

28:35

are interested in now, obviously the Leafs are

28:37

interested. So we'll see where

28:39

this goes. If it goes beyond these two,

28:41

I'd mentioned Jay Woodcroft

28:43

because Tree Living knows his body of

28:46

work. Um, but we'll see

28:48

if, but I really do think the, and

28:50

also don't forget Shanahan played

28:52

for Detroit for a year when

28:55

McClellan was there as an assistant coach. So

28:58

that's just another connection. Even

29:00

though it was earlier in McClellan's career

29:03

before he ever became a head coach, he

29:05

does know him. So we'll see where it

29:08

goes, but I believe those are, um, the

29:11

key people that. They're

29:14

going to be looking at, you know, one more thing

29:16

I would say about Keith. I

29:19

was talking about this with someone and

29:21

we just discussed, you

29:23

know, we were asking each other during

29:26

his time, what

29:29

was the playoff defeat?

29:33

Pat Quinn always looked back at some of the losses they

29:35

had. One was 2001 to New Jersey. Another

29:39

was 2002 to Carolina and said, honestly, I thought

29:41

we had

29:45

good enough teams to win it all.

29:48

And I would slightly argue

29:50

with him. I said, 2001 was Colorado

29:52

in 2002, Detroit at 10 hall of

29:54

famers. You really think you would have won

29:56

the Stanley Cup against either of those teams. And

29:58

he looked at me, Jeff, like. he was going to claw my

30:01

eyes out with his finger. So

30:03

I learned not to debate that. But

30:05

you always wonder, is there a team here or a year here

30:07

where... I

30:10

have an idea. I have an idea. I think

30:12

it was 2021, the Canadian

30:15

division. Like that

30:17

year, they played their best

30:19

defense like on a year-long

30:21

basis. And you

30:23

know, they hammered Edmonton, who was the

30:26

second best team that year, in the

30:28

regular season at least. They

30:30

locked them down when they played several times.

30:33

And then they're up 3-1 to Montreal,

30:37

and they lost the series. And I remember

30:39

when they gave up the first goal in

30:41

game seven, which was a bad goal, you

30:43

really got the sense that they

30:46

were going to lose that game. And

30:48

so I would... So if you're

30:50

going to look at a year back and say, boy, that

30:52

was the year that could have been different, I

30:55

think it was that one. Now, I don't

30:57

think they were winning the Stanley Cup necessarily

30:59

or anything like that. But I

31:01

do think that was a team that should

31:04

have gone a lot farther in the playoffs than it

31:06

did. The

31:09

field looked open for them, or you could at least

31:11

see the path. And they

31:13

had a chance to go deep. And

31:18

it just fell apart. It

31:20

just completely caved in. And once the ball

31:22

got rolling, they couldn't stop it. And

31:24

the thing about Kief is, now, sometimes

31:27

coaches like to jump right back in. Sometimes

31:29

coaches like to have a pause and reflect.

31:31

Sheldon Q's extension hasn't kicked in yet. He

31:34

has a couple of years, if he wants, to

31:36

surf here. Does he

31:38

strike you as the kind of person that wants to

31:40

get right back in? Because

31:43

one of the things that he said in his video is,

31:46

give my family the time that they deserve.

31:49

Being a coach is always demanding. Being

31:52

a coach in Toronto can be completely

31:54

chaotic and life upsetting.

31:57

It's difficult for spouses.

32:00

Kids, extended family, friends, all of

32:02

it because as a twenty four

32:04

seven job and you being scrutinized

32:06

by everyone in the city whose

32:08

the General Manager. I

32:11

wonder if Sheldon Keefe wants to jump right back

32:13

in? To this thing. Or.

32:15

Does he want to take a look at a time? I

32:18

always heir to the believe

32:20

that. Coaches. Wanna

32:22

jump right back in a but

32:24

I think in keys case it

32:26

might come down to where it

32:28

is. Your

32:31

we talk all the time about.

32:33

Your. When you cheat when you fire codes

32:36

you want the next coach should be

32:38

different. You don't want the same prototype

32:40

rate and one of the things you

32:42

wonder here out his q feel like

32:44

for example of winner pay reaches out.

32:46

Does. He want to go back to

32:49

a Canadian market. Or.

32:52

Would he want to? Go.

32:54

Somewhere quieter like was someone said

32:56

to me that they wouldn't be

32:58

surprised if L A reached out.

33:01

Then. They give would

33:03

be very interested in something like that.

33:07

Partially. Because. It's

33:09

has a chance to be a good team.

33:12

And secondly because it's gonna be

33:15

quieter it's California, it's the sun

33:17

and he as a lot of

33:19

family connections to Arizona so you

33:21

know I had a couple be

33:23

will say to me if if

33:26

it's like everybody's expecting New Jersey

33:28

to enter a interview him I'm

33:30

sure other teams are gonna call.

33:34

Will find out of this is true

33:36

or even if the king's. Do.

33:38

Reach out to I'm. By. i there

33:40

were a couple people who suspected that

33:42

l a would appeal to him he

33:44

alley before we wrap up the segment

33:46

here are anything else on the coaching

33:48

situation and we'd take your pack throw

33:50

a dart skill landed a vacancy anything

33:52

else honey coaching situation in the nhl

33:54

one of the things and steve simmons

33:57

of the toronto sun already is written

33:59

about it is that there's going to be a lot of

34:01

talk by

34:19

the NHL. So the NHL

34:21

doesn't won't say that

34:25

there's oneeal their but

34:41

if he does return there's

34:44

some talk it might not be as

34:46

a head coach right away that

34:49

I don't

34:51

even know what to call it whether it's a preference

34:53

or and and not

34:55

necessarily by him I think he wants to

34:58

coach he made that very clear in his

35:00

interview with Andy Strickland that

35:02

he wants to coach and

35:04

be a head coach but some

35:06

teams indicated to me that

35:08

they were under the impression

35:11

that maybe it might be as

35:13

an advisor first an

35:15

opportunity for Quenville to dip

35:17

his toe in first and

35:20

just get back in that way

35:23

as opposed to going right back down as

35:26

opposed to being right behind the bench

35:28

right away I don't know where this

35:30

will end up but that there's

35:32

a few teams who are talking like

35:35

that well you know that's

35:37

interesting because as you'll recall when

35:40

he joined the Chicago Blackhawks it wasn't as

35:42

a coach yes as a

35:44

scout now we all understood that okay

35:47

it's only a matter of time before he gets

35:49

installed as the head coach here and it happened

35:52

and the other players are upset because they all

35:54

loved any Savard but technically

35:56

he was hired as a scout before

35:59

taking the coaching position in Chicago.

36:01

So that wouldn't exactly be new

36:03

territory for Joel Quenville here. Yes.

36:06

So it's just something to

36:09

keep an eye on. I don't know where, like

36:12

I'm not saying that's 100%. Just

36:14

something to keep an eye on. I think

36:16

it's, I don't like to guess with this

36:18

one. I don't think

36:20

it's a good idea, but

36:24

I've heard this in enough places to

36:26

know that even though the NHL

36:29

does not comment on this, there

36:32

are definitely teams who have

36:34

that impression. Let's

36:37

go with that. So one other,

36:39

I'm glad you mentioned that there,

36:41

the Cam and Strik podcast and

36:43

the conversation that Quenville had with

36:45

Andy Strickland. You know, Strickland

36:47

asked them, you know, which teams

36:50

would you be interested in coaching?

36:53

And the Quenville was

36:55

quite direct. He said, you know, those

36:57

top teams in the Atlantic and,

37:00

you know, he said like those, those

37:02

would be intriguing to him. And

37:05

Paul Maurice isn't going anywhere. John

37:07

Cooper's not going anywhere. Could make the

37:10

argument Jim Montgomery might have had some

37:12

question marks around him, but

37:15

then they beat the Toronto Maple Leafs in

37:17

seven games. So he's not going anywhere. And

37:20

there's a vacancy in Toronto. That's

37:23

the only thing that I wonder about here. Again,

37:26

I know that he's not calling a shot and

37:28

dictating where he goes, but I just

37:30

thought it was interesting the way that when

37:32

Strickland asked that question right away, it

37:34

was top teams in the Atlantic. That

37:36

was the answer from Quenville. And

37:38

now there's a vacancy. Again, we'll,

37:41

we'll see where this all heads. All

37:45

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It is top drawer and one of

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the team. It seems to have benefited

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41:19

us to wonder. If. A

41:21

player assigned to a huge quotes

41:24

difficult to move via trade contract

41:26

like that and he struggles and

41:28

decides it's not working out. Let's

41:30

say like Hubert Oh in Calgary

41:33

does he have any remedy on

41:35

his and. Teams. can buy

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a player out but is there anything

41:39

in the c b a or any

41:42

rules that would permit a player

41:44

to go to management and request to

41:46

quote restructure their contract to make

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it more movable any such out clause

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for a player if it's just

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or Selkie. Anyhow, what

42:13

can players do? I don't know about

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all, thank you very much. Great feedback. Great

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42:28

answer to your query is no.

42:30

You cannot restructure a contract. In

42:33

the NFL, you can do it. It happens all the

42:35

time but in the NHL,

42:37

you cannot. Once a contract is

42:40

signed, it is ironclad except if

42:42

there's a buyout or

42:45

bad behavior allows for

42:47

a termination but you cannot renegotiate

42:49

a deal once it's signed. It's

42:51

in the CBA that is done.

42:54

Now there was a unique situation

42:56

last year with Philip

42:58

Zadina then of Detroit and now

43:00

of San Jose. He

43:02

signed a contract with

43:04

the Red Wings and the

43:07

situation didn't work out from a playing point

43:09

of view and Zadina walked

43:11

away from what Jeff? About $5

43:13

million. He allowed his contract. He

43:16

requested for his contract to be

43:19

terminated so he could go

43:21

somewhere else and play. That's a unique situation.

43:24

He was advised against doing it by both

43:26

his agent and the Players Association

43:28

but ultimately it was his choice

43:31

and he did it. So that's barring

43:33

a team buyout or a player

43:36

asking for his contract to be terminated like

43:39

Zadina did or Patrick Bergland

43:41

deciding not to fight against

43:44

it, then those

43:47

deals are ironclad. Buyout,

43:49

termination are

43:51

the only options out. Hey,

44:00

Jeff, Elliot and Dom, this is Kevin

44:03

from Ellicott City, Maryland. Love the pod

44:05

wanted to know about NHLers. Well,

44:07

this is interesting. I want to know

44:09

more about NHLers that had promising careers

44:11

in other sports. In football, we hear

44:13

about athletes having prospects in other sports.

44:16

Russell Wilson, MLB, Tyree Kill being a

44:18

track star, et cetera. I

44:20

wanted to know if you all

44:22

knew of NHL players being drafted

44:24

or at least courted to play

44:27

professionally in another sports. Keep

44:29

up the great work. Whenever I hear questions

44:31

like this, and I know here comes

44:33

the old guy response. I

44:36

always think about Lionel Conacher, the big

44:38

train, who was probably the best multi-sport

44:40

athlete the NHL ever

44:42

had. He was the only player

44:44

to have his name on both the Stanley

44:46

cup and gray cup in the same year,

44:48

two other players did that, Joe Miller and

44:51

Carl Voss, but Conacher did it in

44:53

the same year. He was

44:55

a boxing champion in Calgary,

44:57

once fought a four round

44:59

exhibition bout with Jack

45:02

Dempsey. He was a lacrosse

45:04

champion. He was an international league

45:06

baseball champion with the baseball maple

45:08

leafs. Um, and actually went

45:10

into politics after his life and actually passed

45:13

away, uh, while he was

45:15

an MP during a parliamentary softball game.

45:17

So he was, anyway, he started the

45:19

one that I always look at. Canadian

45:21

athlete of the half century. From the

45:23

1900s to 1950. Yes.

45:27

Lionel Conacher, the big train, that's where my brain

45:29

always goes there. But there's like, there's so

45:31

many, whether it's, you know, Clark Gilly's and

45:33

baseball, Dave Brown, uh, and

45:35

baseball, like there's a, there's a lot of, uh,

45:37

like, cause what we're talking about here is elite

45:40

level athletes. Yeah. And they

45:42

probably just didn't play hockey growing up.

45:44

They were great at other sports like

45:46

Adam Oates and lacrosse. Robert Sunu. Well,

45:48

Joni and the guy named Gary Roberts.

45:50

Yes. Great lacrosse players. Gretsky was a

45:53

very good baseball player. And

45:55

lacrosse too. And he was

45:57

excellent. Adam Oates, he'd be great

45:59

at anything. He'd be great at

46:01

anything really. I

46:03

remember, I also want to

46:05

shout out a couple of baseball players. Tom Glavin

46:09

was an excellent hockey player. He was

46:11

drafted into the NHL. Kirk

46:14

McCaskill, who was a really good

46:16

pitcher in the 80s for the

46:18

California Angels, his father played

46:20

briefly in the NHL and he was

46:22

drafted by the Jets in 1981. John

46:27

Tudor, who won 20 games

46:30

as a pitcher for the St. Louis Cardinals

46:32

in the 80s, he used

46:35

to practice occasionally with the Blues.

46:37

I remember seeing video of him going

46:40

on the ice and practicing with them. So

46:43

as Jeff says, there's a lot of

46:45

athlete crossovers. To be great at something,

46:48

you really have to dedicate

46:50

your time to it. You can't just sort

46:52

of do it here and there. But

46:55

a lot of these players

46:58

are such incredible athletes that

47:00

they are capable of doing much more

47:03

than one thing. I

47:06

always thought that might be a side bar

47:08

to the All-Star game. NHL players doing other

47:10

sports or competing in other activities. I

47:13

don't know if they would ever actually do it at the

47:16

official All-Star game, but just as kind of looking at it.

47:18

After the way it went a couple years ago, I think

47:20

they want to get back to the more traditional

47:24

hockey stuff.

47:26

But listen, we're the same vintage. You remember Battle

47:28

of the Network Stars, right?

47:31

And how fun that was. Haven't

47:34

you always secretly wanted to see NHL players

47:37

do skills, competitions of

47:39

other sports? Oh yeah. Football,

47:42

basketball, baseball, whatever, track and field. I think that

47:44

would be fascinating. I would love to see that. I

47:47

don't know if that ever happens. I'll just lob

47:49

it out there and hope that someone else picks

47:51

it up and does the actual work. There

47:54

were a couple of other players I wanted to mention

47:56

since to stick with the question of Going

47:59

from hockey. the other sports.

48:01

Yup. Anders li. Know.

48:04

What? we or? our quarterback? Yes,

48:06

Yes, oh yeah. back. and he

48:08

could really run the ball and

48:10

memory leak championed. The I

48:12

am remember when we said the he

48:14

looked better as a runner as opposed

48:17

to a passer and he cast smiled

48:19

said those words. The good I like

48:21

it's the has on. Paul Martin was

48:23

a very the the former defense my

48:25

family to the shards, yachts and the

48:28

devil's He was a very good wide

48:30

receiver I think he was like in

48:32

our state wide receiver and key. Andre

48:34

Miller was also a very good wide

48:36

receiver. In in high school football there

48:39

was some talk he would play college

48:41

football but ultimately. He chose hockey and

48:43

I would say chose very wisely Or a

48:45

cabin in Maryland think so much for that

48:47

one excellent question. Your way to get in.

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49:33

Elliott, guess that's why do they should be

49:35

Another good one with a couple of

49:37

a great series that were already very

49:39

emotionally invested in. Ah want to get to

49:42

that? The Boston Bruins and the for

49:44

the Panthers you're in a couple of

49:46

seconds game to Vancouver Canucks facing off

49:48

against the Edmonton Oilers. Game one as we

49:50

saw on Wednesday or with idea Edmonton

49:52

Oilers were a cruise and long questions

49:54

about his talking gonna pull. She loves how

49:56

much are the Edmonton Oilers when a

49:58

beat the Vancouver. canucks by, but then

50:02

something different happened. It was

50:04

the comeback by the

50:06

Vancouver Canucks. And we've seen this all

50:09

season long by Rick Tockett's team. Resilience

50:12

is the, is the call of the day

50:14

there. I know that it wasn't, you know,

50:16

Stewart Skinner's finest performance, but you

50:18

really got to do give it, you really

50:20

have to give it up for the Vancouver

50:23

Canucks. That was as impressive a comeback when

50:25

you consider the stakes as we've

50:27

seen all season long from that team.

50:29

We're going to see game two tonight, but quick thought

50:31

on what we saw in game one. All

50:34

year long, what have the Canucks said? When

50:37

we break down, we go back

50:39

to what works. Whether

50:42

we're, whether we're losing three to two

50:44

or we're losing seven to nothing, go

50:46

back to what works. And that's

50:48

what they did in game one. When

50:51

they got in trouble, they just

50:54

went back to what works. It

50:56

was an outstanding shutdown. An

51:00

outstanding shutdown of the Oilers and

51:02

particularly McDavid, who you know is

51:04

going to come out like a

51:06

house on fire in game number

51:08

two, I thought a lot

51:11

of their players were very good,

51:13

particularly defensively. I thought they

51:15

were engaged. They never gave up. All

51:17

of their UFAs are making life harder

51:19

on them. Joshua is making life harder

51:22

on them. Linholme is making

51:24

life harder on them. Zadorov

51:26

is making life harder on them. I mean, it's

51:28

great for their team and their chances of

51:30

winning in the playoffs, but it's really bad

51:32

for trying to keep some of these guys.

51:35

Like normally you see those UFAs who maybe

51:38

play their way off your team. Like a

51:40

number of these guys are only making themselves

51:43

even wealthier and the Canucks are going to want

51:45

to keep them. So, but it's

51:47

a good problem to have right now. You enjoy the

51:49

ride while you have it. You

51:51

know, I think the thing is too, is that

51:53

you go back a couple of weeks to when

51:56

Demko got hurt, the news that Demko was injured.

52:00

And you know what

52:02

happened here is when

52:05

it got announced that morning that Demko was

52:08

injured, you know

52:10

the Canucks fans were in a panic and obviously

52:12

so. I mean he's your number one goalie and

52:14

you're like oh my god we were

52:17

doomed before we even started. Well

52:20

since that happened the team is now 4-2. She

52:25

lost has won three of those games and

52:28

De Smith has won one of them. So

52:31

you've got a good record in

52:33

the postseason with your number

52:35

two and number three goalie playing the

52:38

games because they're doing enough to win

52:40

which is all you need and everybody

52:44

in front of them is playing great. They're

52:47

sitting there and they're saying we know what we have

52:49

to do if we're going to win and

52:51

they're doing it. They look disciplined, they

52:54

look terrific, they rise and fall with

52:56

the emotion of the game. Everything

53:00

that I just love

53:02

the way that they're playing right now and

53:04

this series is far from over. The

53:07

Oilers coughed up a hairball in game

53:09

number one. They're going to be really

53:11

pissed off about it. Skinner had

53:13

one bad game the last series and

53:15

locked it down. He's now had

53:17

his one bad game this series.

53:22

Edmonton is going to be a lot better but

53:24

Vancouver can be a lot

53:26

better too. Great hockey, great

53:28

win in game number one, great

53:30

atmosphere. Were

53:33

you picking up what Knoblock was putting down

53:35

about Leon Dreycidal cramping up? Yeah, I don't

53:38

know so much about that one. There's

53:41

a lot of theories here. We

53:43

showed his last shift where

53:46

he was pretty ginger but

53:48

also there's a couple of things like on the

53:51

first power play of the game that early one

53:53

the Oilers scored on, a minute

53:55

and a half into the game he collides with the

53:57

referee. It's kind of

53:59

a weird play. Like he's at

54:01

the side of the net, and he's kind of backing up

54:03

to go into his corner spot where he likes to shoot

54:05

from, and the ref's there, and

54:07

Dryz And

54:19

I said, you know

54:21

what, that could be true. I

54:23

thought it was good reasoning. But then on

54:26

Thursday, somebody said to

54:28

me, he thinks that

54:30

there was a crosscheck.

54:34

And it was one of those playoff

54:36

crosschecks that doesn't get called, but

54:38

it's really mean, and

54:40

we just got to find it. So

54:44

I don't know. I don't want to

54:46

be calling Chris Novlock a liar because

54:48

I'm already in trouble for

54:50

my comatose Chris line, which I

54:52

mean is a compliment. He never

54:54

loses his composure, but I learned

54:56

that some people don't like it.

55:00

So I won't call him a liar, and

55:02

I'll see what happens in game two, although

55:05

you would think with back spasms that

55:07

medical technology has advanced to

55:10

the point where you

55:12

could probably practice with it. We'll see. We'll

55:14

see how it goes. As

55:16

a guy who's had back spasms

55:19

before, I've

55:21

had them be debilitating for a short period

55:23

of time. I haven't

55:26

had it that long, but

55:28

they haven't happened to me while I'm

55:30

trying to escape JT Miller. I have

55:32

to confess. Okay.

55:35

To the, uh, the other game,

55:38

which is loaded with emotion and

55:40

storylines and the best

55:43

line that we heard on Wednesday

55:45

night. And it went like this

55:47

from Jim Montgomery. I'm

55:51

proud of pasta. No

55:54

longer. We need more from pasta. It's

55:56

I'm proud of pasta. Despite The fact

55:58

that we're here, we're here. We're going

56:00

to get her the for a panthers your any

56:02

dessert for credit for that game to win and

56:05

the way that they did it. but one of

56:07

the stories coming out of this one and you

56:09

know my corrupted a walk and talk video on

56:11

this one not as social media as well. What?

56:14

David. Pasternak. Did at

56:16

the end the game talking about

56:18

accepting and then going through with.

56:20

After getting a blessing of his

56:22

coach who did I did he

56:25

gave said bluffing fighting Matthew could

56:27

chuck. Carry that

56:29

over the Game Three: Elliott Friedman How much

56:31

of a story with David Pasternak? On.

56:34

Wednesday. Huge. Now it's

56:36

kind of a pyrrhic victory, right?

56:38

They lost six to one. Bite.

56:41

There's no question that. At

56:44

the end of a loss like that, to see

56:46

one of your best players take that fight so

56:48

someone else doesn't have to, you would want him

56:50

doing it all the time, but you adored in

56:53

the moment and you know the Bruins love them

56:55

for it. Did you

56:57

have any problem with the punches? The.

56:59

Late punches know. How

57:01

can know? But then again I'm a big fan

57:03

of the Darryl Sylar Gary how it fight with

57:06

a fight on their knees for about ninety seconds.

57:08

So no but know I'd I'd I did not.

57:10

Those two guys that are just they're They're going

57:12

to keep swinging. Whether they're apple weather down there,

57:14

on their knees, they're on their skates. know I

57:16

had no problem with that. when did know. I've

57:19

just heard over the years some people

57:21

say they don't like. Punches.

57:23

When one guys up and one guys

57:25

down. But I do concede that sometimes

57:27

in the moment. As

57:30

china tough to stop. I think it's

57:32

because Could Chalk kind of has fought

57:34

before and Paulson Og doesn't but what

57:36

are you gonna do? It was it

57:38

was a wild game and. Everybody

57:41

loved it. Nobody was turning off

57:43

their television sets or their phones

57:45

and nobody was complaining online it

57:47

was it was quite name and

57:49

will Florida plays that speak do

57:51

not apply. The Oh

57:53

Paul Maurice er as as a team

57:55

of sore losers and sore winners and

57:58

that's why they're very successful. Because

58:00

whenever a game gets outta

58:02

hand, What? Especially if they're

58:05

losing. They. Are going to

58:07

give you a piece of their minds

58:09

so and of a piece of their

58:11

fists so you can see your surprise

58:13

will comes to that with Florida at

58:15

All. No.

58:17

And this is also without Sam Bennett. we

58:19

should point out yes, which makes it that

58:21

much. Although he made the trail in this

58:23

game, sounds like he's getting household. Or

58:26

see what happened. See that he's a wildcard here.

58:28

And as long as I don't buy a third

58:31

series is Raymond is too tired. I'm going back

58:33

to him again. You.

58:35

Are a knock on all mark know as if

58:37

either if as long as I think swaim it

58:39

isn't too tired. I'm going back

58:42

Know mark? Was acting

58:44

seven catching up to the Boston Bruins. I

58:47

think I think will have a

58:49

better idea iron Friday night. I

58:52

don't like to judge it based on one offs.

58:54

I I I I will signal know

58:56

better after game three because I think

58:59

in some way that cheapens how good

59:01

Florida is. They win a game like

59:03

that you like all. Boston

59:05

got tired that's why Florida one so I

59:08

don't like doing that. I want to wait

59:10

a bit more. I will say this palmer

59:12

issues up as lines a bit and it

59:14

was one of those nights where. Every

59:18

hunt you have works. It was a good

59:20

night for Murray so. There.

59:22

Was an was really good night

59:24

for Alexander Barca me up who

59:26

had to into yachts Ah Reinhart

59:29

with four assists, Brandon Monsoor with

59:31

one and two after three points

59:33

in that game and a hilarious

59:35

exchange after he scored the goal.

59:38

Late. In the third period with

59:40

Brad Marchand. Which. Included.

59:43

Brandon. Minds, you're. Mining.

59:47

The licking incident from years ago with

59:49

Ryan Callahan? Yeah, with caldera in a

59:52

yoga think I'd. Do. With

59:54

Callahan the do not get the feeling.

59:56

That. in this series they've

59:59

already established There's

1:00:01

not much that's off limits here. No,

1:00:04

I don't think this series is going to be for the faint of

1:00:06

heart. Although

1:00:09

Trojak, they could jump Trojak in the middle of this

1:00:11

series and he'd fit in very well. He

1:00:14

would fit in fine, thank you very much. This

1:00:16

one's been fantastic. Give us seven games of this,

1:00:18

please. Series tied at once. We'll

1:00:21

see what happens later on tonight in game

1:00:23

three as the venue shifts to Boston.

1:00:25

And I'll tell you what, Boston,

1:00:30

after what happened on Wednesday with

1:00:32

the Bruins and how David Pasternak

1:00:34

reacted to Matthew Kaczak, regardless of

1:00:36

whether he caught a couple of

1:00:38

rights, won the fight, didn't win

1:00:40

the fight, those

1:00:43

Bruins fans on Friday night

1:00:45

are going to go banana

1:00:48

sandwich for this team when they

1:00:50

hit the ice. When

1:00:52

they see coming off of that effort, they

1:00:54

get the split, they fought their brains out

1:00:57

on Wednesday night. There was,

1:00:59

because that's Bruins hockey. Those

1:01:02

fans love it. I think I've told you this

1:01:04

before. My favorite

1:01:07

sign that I ever saw

1:01:09

at any NHL rink, it

1:01:11

would have been the early 70s at Boston Garden

1:01:16

and someone had up on the garden, Lady

1:01:19

Bing died at the

1:01:21

Garden. That

1:01:23

is the ultimate Boston Bruins sign

1:01:26

that tells you what you need

1:01:28

to know about their fans. They

1:01:31

absolutely adore this. Friday is going

1:01:33

to be special. I can't

1:01:35

wait to see it. And with that, we'll let

1:01:38

you go. The podcast returns on

1:01:40

Monday morning. Enjoy Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

1:01:43

We'll talk to you again in a couple of days. Enjoy

1:01:45

the hockey. We know we will.