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I'll tell you mean granted me when there's like as

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to be right near going to be wrong. And

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yes, I know that is true. Of

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Merrick hey it's as a man a

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sure Matty producing Merrick and Friedman once

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again and will start with the Philadelphia

0:35

Flyers who lose to the Montreal Canadians

0:37

on Thursday. Park That. For a second

0:40

though, is this story around Philadelphia

0:42

Russian goaltenders or what Elliot, Ivan

0:44

Fedotov and Alexi call a salve

0:46

to say nothing of as I

0:48

was told on Thursday night. Maybe

0:50

the best Russian goaltender of the

0:53

mall? yeager Zap Reagan, who was

0:55

taken in the third round by

0:57

the Philadelphia Flyers. But maybe that's

0:59

a story for another day. What's

1:01

happening with Philly and the goalies

1:03

fridge? First of all, is that

1:05

a real person? The third goal

1:08

you need. A

1:10

yes it is a third

1:12

round draft pick at the

1:14

Philadelphia Flyers playing in the

1:16

Nhl on the Vhf. Okay,

1:18

so cool as solve. The

1:20

Flyers fans knew that he

1:22

was coming over towards the

1:24

end of this season and

1:26

he is expected to start

1:28

in the American Hockey League.

1:30

That was expected. Now what

1:32

wasn't expected was the fed

1:34

a tough situation and. The

1:37

So: There were some rumblings on

1:39

Thursday morning that something was up

1:41

with Fetisov and not long after

1:44

I got that call, there was

1:46

a tweet the came out from

1:49

the Khl saying that Feather Togs

1:51

contract in Cs Care Moscow had

1:53

been terminated and basically that meant

1:56

that he was a free agent.

1:59

Sort. Of he was free

2:01

to leave. His. Russian

2:04

contract and his rights had been

2:06

held by the Flyers. And for

2:08

those of you who are familiar

2:10

with this story and Flyer fans

2:12

would be He signed a contract

2:14

with the Flyers a couple of

2:17

years ago. It was believed that

2:19

he would be able to come

2:21

to North America a play for

2:23

them. They wanted him to come

2:25

to North America and play for

2:27

them. However, it's all of a

2:30

sudden. in Russia came the announcement.

2:32

Third, he was. Being accused of

2:34

of dating his military service and

2:36

he was not allowed to leave,

2:38

he was prevented from leaving and

2:41

instead he had signed a two

2:43

year extension to play their well.

2:45

It didn't go very well. He

2:47

didn't play well as. The.

2:50

Word over there was he

2:52

was clearly unhappy e o

2:54

They also lost a. As

2:56

a basically an arbitration case against

2:58

the Nhl and they were found

3:01

to be in violation. They just

3:03

didn't care, they kept them there.

3:05

but eventually you the way he

3:07

was playing there are from what

3:09

I was told in this is

3:11

obviously a North American slants are

3:13

to this. He just became very

3:15

clear to everybody that the current

3:17

situation was untenable. He didn't wanna

3:20

be there, he wasn't playing well

3:22

and he wanted and and the

3:24

Flyers won. I'm in North America.

3:26

And I think all the various

3:29

parties the or national Ice Hockey

3:31

Federation, the Nhl, our the Russian

3:33

team, the Russian League the Flyers

3:35

had been working to get this

3:38

done and I I think one

3:40

of the reasons it was so

3:42

Secrets is obviously it's whenever you're

3:44

dealing with all of these various

3:47

parties, there's a lot of moving

3:49

parts and nothing is done until

3:51

it's done. And so when the

3:54

announcement came on Thursdays is contracted

3:56

been. Terminated. I.

3:59

Heard that. Was coming to Philly

4:01

and that he is gonna play

4:03

for the Flyers and nobody deny

4:05

that to me. People were very

4:07

careful about saying where exactly as

4:09

all steroid era where he was

4:11

in terms of transits il y

4:13

a what was going to happen

4:15

but people told me if you

4:17

say that he is free to

4:19

join with the flyers and he

4:21

will be joining the flyers or

4:24

was en route to joining the

4:26

flyers are it would you would

4:28

be safe to do so and.

4:30

That's where we are and it's

4:32

basically his contract with Philadelphia had

4:34

been told an eel. For example,

4:37

one of the most famous told

4:39

contracts in the Nhl was Alexi

4:41

Yeah, since he sat out one

4:44

year from Ottawa, it's and instead

4:46

of that year being a when

4:49

it's told it's carried over, you

4:51

don't get credit for having played

4:53

it. So that one year deal

4:56

that Philadelphia sign him to was

4:58

carried over. it's expected. He

5:00

will be joining the Flyers

5:02

under their contracts unless somebody

5:05

tells me otherwise. He's

5:08

going to be a usa the end

5:10

of the season. Ah, but really gets

5:13

a look at of So one of

5:15

the things that people were dealing with

5:17

here and was slightly complicating because it's

5:20

really not that complicated compared to everything

5:22

else that happened here is that Felix

5:24

Sandstrom silly his use all four of

5:27

their call ups after the trade deadline.

5:29

The roster rules change a bit, even

5:31

have as many players on your roster

5:34

as you want as long as you're

5:36

under the cap. There's no. longer

5:38

a limit of twenty three necessarily

5:40

however you're only allowed for call

5:42

ups after the trade deadline and

5:45

silly his use them all so

5:47

felix sandstrom is up on an

5:49

emergency basis and so what everybody

5:52

was trying to figure out is

5:54

could sandstrom be sent back down

5:56

and once said it's off as

5:58

being is activate he

6:00

can be activated on that emergency basis. And

6:03

I'm under the impression that all this is

6:05

going to be worked out, but

6:07

the bottom line is after a

6:09

very lengthy saga that really did

6:11

turn ugly at one point, it

6:14

appears as if Fedetov will get the

6:16

opportunity to join and play

6:18

for the Flyers. And if that's what he

6:20

wants and that's what his family wants, good

6:23

for him. Yeah, that's what I was told

6:25

was that the plan was for Fedetov to

6:27

play with the Philadelphia Flyers and we get

6:29

to see what a six foot eight goaltender looks

6:31

like in the National Archives. We've

6:34

never seen that before. We haven't seen that

6:36

yet, Elliot, and Alexei Kolosov was going to

6:38

Lehigh Valley. The

6:40

one interesting, do you have anything, by the way, anything

6:43

more on that situation when it's sort of transitioned into

6:45

the Philadelphia Flyers that have a question for you around

6:48

them right now? Anything more we think we

6:50

should know about Kolosov or Fedetov right now?

6:52

I don't think so. Like

6:55

everything I just said there was what I

6:58

know and what

7:00

people told me. Like the thing

7:02

about these situations is there's a

7:04

lot that goes on behind the

7:06

scenes. Like, you know,

7:09

you remember those stories about McGillney defecting

7:11

or Peter Kliele coming over and they

7:13

were very clandestine and the world was

7:16

a very different place then. And

7:19

people said, yes, the world has changed,

7:21

but still these things are very complicated.

7:24

This isn't just the NHL you have to deal

7:26

with. This is Russia, this is immigration,

7:29

this is getting the proper

7:31

paperwork, visas and whatever. And

7:34

you should never jump to a conclusion. And

7:37

while people were willing to say, yes,

7:40

this looks like it's going to happen,

7:42

nobody's going to make an announcement until

7:44

everything is done. Because

7:46

these are complicated things and so

7:49

everything I've said here is what I

7:52

know and people have said you

7:54

are safe to say, But you shouldn't

7:56

really go any farther than that. And you

7:58

shouldn't make any grand pronounce. Mans until

8:00

the Nhl or someone else does so,

8:02

but it is safe to say he

8:05

is en route to joining the Flyers

8:07

and is expected to play for them.

8:10

Excellent. Now the Philadelphia Flyers themselves

8:12

the up so Thursday night for

8:15

the Islander or in. Ah,

8:17

very good night for the Islanders.

8:19

The Washington Capitals lost their game.

8:21

The set off your Flyers lost

8:24

their game. hey hey hey is

8:26

looking better for the Islanders Were

8:28

still the runway because you're you

8:30

Islanders. That's right, The Detroit Redwings

8:32

lost on Thursday as well. Again,

8:34

we're playing the game of who

8:36

wants these playoff spots on buses

8:38

I love fires. You know, something

8:40

really interesting. I

8:42

don't know whether a meaningless in a might only

8:44

be one game, and maybe I'm just guilty of

8:46

reading too. Much into one game. But

8:49

would you look at the schedule

8:51

that the full of the Flyers

8:53

have down the stretch here? Not

8:55

trying to offend any of these

8:57

teams, but in comparison to the

8:59

Washington Capitals or in comparison to

9:01

the New York Islanders? Or

9:04

for that matter, the Detroit Red Wings.

9:08

It's an easier schedule. Your

9:10

they had Montreal on Thursday

9:13

they have Chicago than the

9:15

Islanders, Buffalo, Columbus, back to

9:17

back Montreal, again the Rangers

9:19

and then the New Jersey

9:21

Devils. There are very very

9:23

winnable games here for the

9:25

Philadelphia Flyers. When I can't

9:28

help but thinking watching the

9:30

game on Thursday was is

9:32

the pressure of expectation getting

9:34

to this team. That.

9:36

Is in while supposed to be

9:38

in a rebuild right now. I

9:41

know I all season long. I don't

9:43

play play play. You don't buy that.

9:45

I don't buy that. I just think

9:47

that. I.

9:50

Think the flyers are a little bit.

9:53

Since. Don't

9:55

forget they're missing three defenseman.

9:58

Who should be playing for them? Right

10:00

And I see also

10:03

Ersan. Feel. That

10:05

they're they're down a goalie to. And

10:08

so. Lox Sealer Supposed to

10:10

be back this weekend. Drysdale.

10:13

Not far away. And.

10:15

Daniel Briere said the other day

10:17

that. Rasmus,

10:19

Wrist aligning that he's the one

10:22

they're not sure about, but the

10:24

other guys are coming back and

10:26

your now they could have another

10:28

goalie to although you know the

10:30

adjustment. Roster the North

10:33

America you could be a big one.

10:35

You never know how someone's gonna handle

10:37

it's I just think that the the

10:39

Flyers. That

10:41

dares been to. I a chance to

10:44

talk to Keep Jones on Wednesday night

10:46

and by the way, Jones and for

10:48

a brief air there. There's one thing

10:50

I don't like about these two guys.

10:52

their vol their valls like this is

10:54

bad for reporting a sealed is the

10:56

second time and I think it shows

10:59

you used to be one of us

11:01

to my eye on sows, sows briere

11:03

like basically yes. He

11:05

did I believe he did some media

11:08

work to and they were tied on

11:10

gotay before they trade. And they were

11:12

tied on Miss Scavo round the draft

11:14

and and the Russian factor. Like I

11:16

said, it is so difficult a handicap

11:18

at times and difficult to get a

11:21

handle on at times that you have

11:23

to be quiet about this stuff. But

11:25

you're one of the things I talked

11:27

with Jones about on Wednesday is that

11:30

I ask them. Was. There

11:32

ever a time in this year

11:34

were you really thought that. He

11:37

said the team. They're.

11:40

Gonna make it. Like the they

11:42

have proven to me that they're

11:45

good enough and he said yes

11:47

many times and I he really

11:49

crazy the players a lot especially

11:51

some of their young players by

11:53

your. What he also said was

11:55

I think that we've learned as

11:58

our teams in hand the roller

12:00

coaster of the season because they

12:02

showed at times There have been

12:04

times I thought that we were

12:06

okay and they struggled. Knows like

12:08

are always this it's and then

12:11

they write themselves. After. They

12:13

struggle so I when I look

12:15

at the flyers I say number

12:17

one. They so more staying power

12:20

than we expected so we have

12:22

to respect that. And number two.

12:25

I. Think they're day the the.

12:27

The depths his really been tested

12:29

ends. When I look at their

12:32

stock, I see some teams out

12:34

there electrons. A perfect example of

12:36

this. Toronto's a team right now

12:38

that when they're battling injuries are

12:41

they're battling problems. They've proven they've

12:43

got extra players who they can

12:45

put in there, especially on defense

12:47

who can do the job for

12:49

them like for example on Tuesday

12:52

night Lilla Grid gets hurts. Giordano

12:54

place for the first. Time in

12:56

our minds and he scores. And between

12:58

Ben why and and going out and

13:01

getting Edmondson at they had guys like

13:03

that all year silly I think is

13:05

a little center and now with their

13:07

d coming back I think they're gonna

13:10

be okay. Me: oh Jeff the other

13:12

thing is. I did

13:14

want to mention something. I ask each

13:16

jones. Like it's been

13:18

a crazy couple weeks there. Like

13:21

considering everything that is happened and

13:23

you think everybody would be ecstatic

13:25

about every minutes happens between to

13:27

Tory A and some of the

13:29

other stuff. Or it's been really

13:31

noisy there And Jones had a

13:34

really interesting comment about that. He

13:36

said i don't mind that eggs

13:38

some teams are really afraid of.

13:40

that's in this day and age

13:42

in the social media age by

13:45

Jones said that he knows he

13:47

kiwi. he reminded when he got

13:49

acquired by philadelphia he was he was

13:51

like wow i can't believe some of

13:53

the noise it's always around this team

13:56

but in the ed snider bob clark

13:58

era and those are two guys who

14:00

knew what they were doing, they didn't mind

14:02

that. They wanted

14:04

the flyers always to

14:07

be known. Hey, the flyers are

14:09

here or people are talking about

14:11

the flyers and I really

14:13

got the impression that in Jones' mind

14:16

in particular, it's better that

14:18

people are talking about us than nobody

14:20

cares about us at all and

14:22

so I thought that was really fascinating

14:25

but I asked him about Tortorella because there

14:27

has been a rumor going around and

14:30

Doug McLean went on Kipper and Born last

14:32

week and he talked about, he

14:34

said he heard that Tortorella wanted to

14:36

leave coaching and go into management in

14:38

Columbus and Yermo Kekkalainen didn't want any

14:40

part of that but if you'll remember

14:42

last week on this pod, I mentioned

14:45

that too, the rumor that maybe

14:47

Tortorella didn't want to coach anymore and

14:50

I asked Jones about it

14:52

and I'm gonna write about it but

14:54

he said, quote, that is not even

14:57

something that's entered any conversation, he's the

14:59

coach and really good at it and

15:01

he also said that he thinks Tortorella's

15:03

played a major role in being

15:05

where they are which is true. So

15:08

I wanted to mention that, I am gonna

15:10

write about it but I wanted to mention

15:12

it and I also should mention that Tortorella's

15:15

had an interesting week. First of all,

15:17

he walked it back on Felix Sandstrom,

15:19

he apologized for the way he reacted

15:21

to a question about it but

15:24

also Tortorella pointed out that when

15:26

we talked about Tortorella not talking

15:28

to the media, one of

15:30

the things I said was, I always wonder if

15:32

there's a reason here that we don't know about

15:35

and he came out on Thursday morning and

15:37

he said, look, in some of these recent

15:40

cases, I had some family

15:42

that I hadn't seen in a while

15:44

basically and I wanted to

15:46

see them and I think

15:48

internally the organization understood and

15:51

there he was, he said, it's not gonna

15:53

be an issue anymore and there he was

15:55

after the game. So that's a couple things,

15:58

like, Obviously they're focused. Applause.

16:00

Now I think they're gonna be okay.

16:02

just I think they're gonna be all

16:04

right by it's I just thought some

16:07

interesting things the jones had to say

16:09

about not being afraid of the noise

16:11

or it's like it's like the old

16:13

like a Shock Jock lines I rather

16:16

they hate me then ignore me and

16:18

I also just saying like the idea

16:20

that Tortorella is not going to be

16:22

the coats. he says it's something that

16:24

is not answered any conversation. To

16:27

quotes. Ah, I believe Oscar Wilde was

16:29

his first one. The only thing worse

16:32

than being talked about is not being

16:34

talked about annually. Point Alianza while close

16:36

This I think that was ask allow

16:38

them and on percent sure Bram sure.

16:40

but this one and is when I

16:43

see records from Fred Zero. When

16:46

Dave shelves dogs don't bark have

16:48

ours and ours know that you

16:50

like that will use as yeah

16:52

times before Nasa that's a pet

16:54

of mine. Ah pardon the pun

16:56

thread Zero when. Dave shots came into

16:59

his office complaining about covered was getting

17:01

in the hockey news in Zero said

17:03

why you want to make it all

17:05

go away Dave said yeah and Fred's

17:07

are Katie The answer is easy. Say

17:09

nothing. Do nothing. be nothing. Now.

17:11

Get out of my office that is such

17:14

a fridge Shiro Philadelphia Flyers thing to say

17:16

and I will do use this opportunity. By

17:18

the way, if you wanna learn more about

17:20

you Elliott mentioned Ed Snider there are a

17:23

couple of seconds. Your the former owner, the

17:25

late owner of the Philadelphia Flyers. Are.

17:28

More The best hockey books I've read

17:30

recently is our bosses book, Ed Snider

17:32

the last sports mogul I asked that

17:35

yeah and see was a key or

17:37

point Elliott he was all about we're

17:39

the Flyers, We're out in front. We

17:41

don't care what people are saying about

17:44

us, as long as they're talking about

17:46

us. That guy understood it back. I

17:48

got it and that is completely Philadelphia

17:51

Flyers now. The. Buffalo Sabres

17:53

on the other, the up tough one.

17:55

On Wednesday night they lose the Ottawa

17:57

Senators. six two's the final the first

17:59

period. Was an ugly ugly story. he

18:01

up com and it did seem like

18:03

you as a team that just came

18:06

back from a long road trip and

18:08

had quit. that's with that first period

18:10

looks like and they got booed off

18:12

the ice com by the fans who

18:14

were in attendance. What?

18:17

Do you think a Buffalo right now

18:19

alley it, It's tough their be. I

18:21

have to say that I got. A

18:24

wine really sarcastic Sabres

18:27

fan that I'm friendly

18:29

with. Use

18:32

the got his as you say. They got booed

18:34

off the ice. Act.

18:36

I can't fault the Sabres fans

18:38

for that. In in that particular

18:40

case you come back from a

18:42

road trips you're down five nothing

18:44

after one you should get booed

18:46

off the ice. The diet's die

18:48

like. I know there's been a

18:50

big debate about said the Sabres

18:52

fans do that. You cannot fault

18:54

any Sabres fan for that. The

18:56

I had some Gord sellers old

18:58

line Jazeera stinks think I am

19:00

road and that was a night

19:02

where egg the it's I love

19:04

the Sabres. Fans Great fan base blue

19:07

collar town. you pay your money, you see

19:09

that you're entitled and one Sabres fan I

19:11

know he sent me a note is Alex

19:13

taught talked about how he disagreed of the

19:16

with it on the podcast said attacks going

19:18

to be asking a come on your podcast

19:20

again I said I got news for yeah

19:22

that guy I talked to me logging off

19:25

is never gonna wanna talk to be for

19:27

seven years Blythe. I

19:29

can't blame The Sands for that one. There

19:33

was a low moment for the

19:35

Sabres. I heard internally it was.

19:39

A really hard night like that's

19:41

one of those nights where you

19:43

leave him. Whether you're a player,

19:45

your code, sure, you're an executive.

19:47

You know that. That was. Really?

19:50

Bad. And those kind of

19:52

nights are when you know.

19:55

If. You'll recover from that. express

19:58

on may one manager told like that's the

20:00

kind of night where if you're the manager,

20:02

you're going into your dressing room the next

20:05

day you can. Whether

20:07

it's the next practice or before

20:09

the next game, that's one of

20:11

those conversations where the manager has

20:13

to go in there and say,

20:15

that is not acceptable.

20:19

And you also have to make it very clear

20:21

and I think everybody knows this that if it,

20:23

like look, the Sabres aren't going to make the

20:25

playoffs, you know, we're playing

20:27

out the season but that's

20:29

one of those where you look at and you

20:31

start looking around and you say, if

20:33

it doesn't get better even in the final 10

20:36

games after everything that's happened, changes

20:38

get made because of games like that. You

20:41

know what, like I'll tell you, someone was watching the other

20:43

night, a guy I know

20:45

who works for a West Coast team

20:47

and he was watching Montreal 4-0 over Seattle and he

20:51

sent me the same text. These

20:54

are games that lead to

20:56

changes. Now Seattle has

20:58

come back since that

21:00

game but basically what he was saying that

21:03

if you continue to go on that slide,

21:07

that's where people get traded in the

21:09

long run or people lose jobs. And

21:12

I think in Buffalo, a game like that one,

21:14

if it doesn't get, if you're

21:16

not better at home and fast, and

21:19

I mean fast, and they've

21:21

got a big one on Saturday night. Jeff,

21:23

you know, we're both Southern Ontario

21:25

guys. Toronto could be 75-0

21:28

and Buffalo could be 0-75 and the Sabres could beat them 9-1

21:30

at home.

21:34

Like we've seen lots of those games. Lots

21:37

of those games. That goes back

21:39

to the Don Edwards, Bob Sovet games. Yes.

21:42

That has been the story of these

21:44

two teams almost since the Sabres

21:46

inception of 1970. You're 100% right. So,

21:49

you know, so it doesn't matter how bad

21:51

the Sabres might be or how good the

21:53

Leafs might be. Buffalo

21:55

is a chamber of horrors for them. But

21:58

if you're the Sabres... And especially because

22:00

it's the Leafs and their fans, they

22:03

hate the Leafs for the most part except

22:05

they all make the money back on their

22:08

season ticket packages by selling those games to

22:10

the Leaf fans. That's

22:12

funny because I got a note after the game

22:14

game. What, want to buy my tickets? No

22:17

it was, how many Buffalo Sabres fans are

22:19

selling their tickets immediately after their game for

22:21

Saturday? I hope the Sabres fans don't get

22:23

mad at me for this but we know

22:25

they all do it anyway. That

22:28

is the story that's old as time. But it would

22:30

be one of those games where there would be 150

22:33

penalty minutes on the ice and 150

22:37

fights in the stands. That's what those games were like.

22:39

But that game against Toronto

22:41

on Saturday night, those

22:44

Sabres players, they know. After

22:47

that game on Wednesday,

22:51

that game on Saturday night, it

22:53

has to be like game seven. In the eyes

22:56

of their fans, they got to play

22:58

that like at game seven of the Stanley Cup final.

23:01

The problem is there's a game in between

23:04

tonight against the New Jersey Devils.

23:06

Doesn't matter. Like I

23:08

know what you're saying about Saturday night and I get it, talking

23:10

to you in Canada, it's a big stage etc. But

23:13

do they not have to have a really good

23:15

showing against the New Jersey Devils

23:17

on Friday? Yeah of course they do. Even

23:20

before you get to Saturday. Yeah you know what,

23:22

you're right. I'm jumping a bit ahead of things.

23:24

You're totally right, I can't argue. But

23:27

Jeff, let me have my narrative okay?

23:30

Don't interfere with my narrative. That

23:34

is narrative interference. It's

23:36

a two minute minor and a

23:38

gross misconduct. I should

23:40

know better. I should know better. As

23:44

Alfred Hitchcock would say, the frozen chicken

23:46

dinner, leaves something a little bit

23:51

wrong in the script that leaves people to think about

23:53

it all the way home until they get home to

23:55

open their fridge and have the frozen chicken dinner, something

23:57

along those lines. I understand from an Alfred

23:59

Hitchcock point. Hitchcock point of view. Okay, elsewhere

24:02

you mentioned the Toronto Maple Leafs so they beat the

24:04

Washington Capitals. I don't know what the bigger story here

24:06

is. The Maple Leafs win or

24:09

considering the Tampa Bay Lightning or chasing Toronto

24:11

right now, the Toronto Maple Leafs win five

24:13

to one. Tyler Bertuzzi with a pair of

24:15

goals. That the Washington Capitals

24:17

lost this one. The Caps as

24:19

you know just like Detroit, just

24:21

like the Islanders can't

24:23

squander any games here. No,

24:26

I mean you can't. It's what

24:29

have we called this the the turtle derby,

24:31

the snails race. Oh, backwards

24:33

into the wild card. It's very rare

24:35

that the Capitals get pounded when Lindgren

24:38

plays in goal. He's been a an

24:40

enormous difference maker for them but they

24:42

were really listless in this one. You

24:44

know it was a weird night at

24:47

the bottom of the Eastern Conference you

24:49

know Kane and Zarnik got

24:51

sick and what did Detroit

24:53

get out shot 15 to 3 in the

24:55

first period? Like they were

24:57

they were never in that game.

24:59

You know Washington was never really

25:01

in that game. Detroit was never

25:03

really in that game. The Philly

25:06

game was weird. At one point

25:08

there were more goals disallowed than

25:10

there were goals scored. You know

25:12

but I give the Islanders a

25:14

lot of credit because we've

25:16

talked about how they've gone down easy.

25:18

You know the Islanders had they thought

25:21

they scored to go up one to

25:23

nothing. It was disallowed and

25:25

then Florida went right down the ice and scored

25:27

and I was looking at this and I was

25:29

like this game might end to eight nothing Panthers

25:31

and and the Islanders found

25:33

a way. Like that was like

25:36

that that game for one night they

25:38

kind of reminded me about the Islanders

25:41

of recent vintage that used to scratch

25:43

and claw and find their way to win. Like that

25:45

that was a game where they had a lot of

25:48

excuses to lose. That's a night

25:50

where you go and you play the

25:52

slots. Like you look around you say

25:54

okay they lost they lost they lost

25:56

and we won in a tough game

25:58

where people weren't expecting against the win,

26:00

let's go play the slots because I might get

26:03

the three cherries on this one. This is a

26:05

night where I might get the three

26:07

sevens or the three cherries. So

26:10

that was a great, great

26:12

win for the Islanders.

26:19

And you talked about the Devils, that's a huge

26:21

game for the Devils now against the Sabres. Only

26:24

one game on Friday and that's

26:27

a massive, massive game

26:29

for the Devils. Because

26:31

they've been given the opportunity there, a

26:33

big opportunity. And they're

26:36

playing well. Like they've won two games

26:38

in a row. Timo Meyers cooking, Jake Allen's

26:40

cooking. Like this is, like

26:42

if you're right, and now the Islanders have jumped

26:44

over them by a single point and do have

26:46

a game in hand. They don't have a tiebreaker

26:48

against anybody but they're the Islanders. They got a

26:50

win out right. This

26:53

isn't one that the New Jersey Devils could squander, not

26:55

by any stretch of the American. Have

26:57

to have it. I hate saying must-win but

27:00

it's a must-win. So I hate

27:02

myself again. Vegas

27:06

and Winnipeg, I know you're working the Maple

27:08

Leafs game against the Washington Capitals. I'm

27:11

not sure how much you had a chance to watch the

27:13

Vegas Golden Knights and the Winnipeg Jets. But

27:15

now they have lost five games in

27:17

a row, those Winnipeg Jets have. Ivan

27:19

Barbashev with a pair in

27:21

this one. Logan Thompson,

27:23

Elliot. Logan Thompson was

27:26

dynamite in the game.

27:28

One of Logan Thompson's

27:30

best performances of

27:32

the season. And it seemed as if, and I

27:34

do like to go out on my way to mention Pavel

27:36

DoraFia, who I think is going to be an excellent player.

27:39

Really good player, like a fine there by the Golden Knights.

27:41

Like a real fun. Third

27:43

round traffic in I want to say 2019. But

27:49

the situation where Haig caught Nimeshnikov and then

27:51

Shifley came in to fight him. It seemed

27:53

as if a lot changed there. I

27:55

think in Winnipeg's mind Haig was going to get

27:58

the five in the boot. Instead

28:00

he got the minor and Shifley ended up with

28:02

the 2, the 5 and the 10 and that

28:05

was it for his night and it seemed as

28:07

if everything sort of

28:09

collapsed on Winnipeg from there. Nonetheless, that

28:11

was that game but the bigger story

28:13

is now, Elliot the Winnipeg Jets have

28:15

now lost five games in a row.

28:18

Well, you know, first of all, I

28:20

wanted to talk about that. Like

28:24

I wanted to talk about that Shifley play

28:28

because like in

28:31

live action, Haig

28:34

was given a major. You

28:37

know why they do that? Yes, but here like,

28:40

hey, don't interrupt me. I'm on a roll here.

28:42

Oh, sorry. Okay, you cook. You

28:44

know, look, look, I know why they

28:46

do it and I don't disagree with it.

28:50

Same. I don't disagree

28:52

with it. Call the major

28:54

and then take the look. You know, like,

28:56

for example, one thing, just let me, as

28:59

you know, I can never tell a story in a straight

29:02

line. Like I have to go in 46 different directions. And

29:05

they say this country has no pope. Ladies and gentlemen,

29:07

Elliot Free. I was talking to

29:09

a GM on Wednesday and you know,

29:11

we were talking about some of the

29:13

added reviews and he

29:15

was playing, his team was playing on Tuesday night

29:18

so he didn't see the high

29:20

state, the Edmonton Winnipeg game

29:23

where there was the penalty called

29:25

on the Oilers that was Winnipeg

29:27

getting themselves, right? The one on

29:29

P-onk. And

29:32

I said, go look

29:34

at it. And he texted me back

29:36

and he said, it's a good

29:38

thing that that is reviewable next year.

29:41

And you know, so then we started talking and he called

29:43

me back and we started talking and he said, you know,

29:47

I say, do you ever worry that there's going to be too many reviews?

29:49

And he says, I understand why the league

29:51

feels that way sometimes at the top. Like, Betman thinks about

29:53

that a lot. And you know, and media Fans

29:56

sometimes think about that. He

30:00

says as a manager I'd be. I

30:02

think our group seals get the call

30:04

right That easy like you know Jeff

30:07

We joked about that code saying hey

30:09

I'm their the Hl. Worse on here

30:11

is we're gonna be here to have

30:13

no I. these measures feel a lot

30:16

of the same way to get the

30:18

call rights. So they they call here

30:20

for the major. And

30:22

because safely sites Hague to

30:24

get to plus five plus

30:26

ten but then they review

30:29

it. And. Hague

30:31

gets downgrade no longer

30:33

a major. It's.

30:35

Now a two minute penalty

30:37

right here. Here's the problem

30:40

I have with that's Not

30:42

the review. I'm good with

30:44

that, but as the referees.

30:47

And. In real time thinks it's

30:49

I think it's a major. Y.

30:52

Sus safely get instigating. Because.

30:55

He does to. He thinks

30:57

in the moment that's a major

30:59

peddling of fall at real speed.

31:01

The referees are calling that a

31:03

major, so I don't think that

31:05

you've safely was fighting a clean

31:07

hit. That's. Different but

31:09

in real time evenly officials

31:12

think. That's. A major. So

31:15

I don't think that safely.

31:18

Should. Be given instigating and ejected from

31:20

the game in that moment. Now.

31:23

Right? Does it match for him But does

31:25

it matter what happened before the instigator like

31:27

the in theater the you started a fight

31:29

by their as he did it seem as

31:31

he saw it but no a player was

31:33

delivering a dirty head. But.

31:36

Elliott. Does it matter? It matters to

31:38

me. You can't omitted thousand miles under

31:41

Center Jeff Norma Tylenol interfere with my

31:43

son of a success of cases We

31:45

live through this. you know now you

31:47

free but you again but you can

31:50

I assess assess of this is my

31:52

truth. I would lose or and I.

31:55

Cannot say anything. this

31:57

is one of my favorite sports moments This

32:00

is when what your head thinks collides with

32:02

what your heart feels. And I'm with

32:04

you. Like my heart feels the same thing

32:06

but my head says it doesn't matter. No, my head says

32:08

it doesn't matter. Your head is stupid.

32:12

Your head is stupid and

32:14

my head is smart. You

32:16

instigated the fight. You started the fight.

32:18

You get the extra money. You don't

32:20

have to like the rule. You don't

32:22

have to love the rule. That's just

32:24

the rule. Whether something happened that in

32:26

your mind justified you going

32:28

and starting that fight like. The

32:31

thing about the instigator for me if you

32:34

really want to get technical about it and

32:36

if you want to do video review for

32:38

like for that for that hit okay and

32:40

you looked at it initially and

32:42

at the end of the hit you see Higgs.

32:44

Let me give it the body position here. Left

32:46

elbow come up after he goes through the check

32:49

and you think to yourself oh oh maybe that

32:51

was the chicken wing and oh oh

32:53

that's spicy and that's going to get him the five

32:55

and then you look do the review and you see

32:57

okay no the shoulder is tucked in. It's just

33:00

a really unfortunate play. Is it worthy of

33:02

a penalty? Yes. Two minutes

33:04

not a five. If you really

33:06

want to review something Shifley and Haig

33:08

dropped their gloves at the same time. Shifley

33:12

confronts Haig. That's true but

33:14

the gloves come off at the same time. Should

33:17

there have been an instigator on? If

33:20

you want to do a video play about that. Let's

33:22

do a review. I have to say you're not wrong

33:24

about that in the sense that people have said that

33:26

to me before that if that

33:29

if Shifley comes in where Haig can't

33:31

defend himself or Shifley has got the

33:33

gloves off and Haig is

33:35

clearly taking off his gloves because Shifleys

33:38

are already off. That's

33:40

an instigator. I have to tell you Jeff there

33:43

are people who agree with you on that. If

33:45

the gloves go off at the same time it

33:47

shouldn't be an instigator. You know I have to

33:49

tell you you are there

33:52

are people out there who agree with you on this.

33:55

My point is that I don't believe

33:57

Shifley should get ejected from the game.

34:00

if at real speed even

34:02

the officials think it's a dirty play. Okay,

34:08

we're not going to go anywhere with that

34:10

one. Because you know what Jeff? Like that

34:12

fight is happening because Shifley

34:14

thinks that Haig has made a

34:16

dirty play and in real

34:19

time the officials agree with him. They

34:21

agree. You're right, that's a

34:23

dirty play. Why should Shifley get

34:26

thrown out of a game in that situation? When

34:28

they look at it and they say, I mean

34:30

you could even argue because it's still a minor

34:33

that it is a penalty. But

34:37

my point is if you think in the moment

34:40

that play is worthy of a major, I don't

34:43

think Shifley should be ejected. I don't

34:45

think any player should be ejected in that

34:47

situation. As a matter of fact, maybe

34:50

what I'm just saying is if a

34:52

player takes a major penalty, whoever

34:54

fights them shouldn't get an instigator. Because

34:57

you're standing up for a guy who got fouled in

34:59

a major way. I understand that.

35:01

I just don't think from an official's point of view

35:04

they'll say that anything is going to justify you starting

35:06

a fight no matter what just happened. Yeah, I don't

35:08

know about that. I don't know. Like

35:11

I gotta tell you something, if someone jumps you on

35:13

the street, yeah, I keep walking. I

35:16

totally admit that. Listen,

35:18

it's just an old school way of thinking. Someone

35:23

high-sticked my buddy and I went and jumped

35:25

him and punched him out. He's really the

35:28

instigator, not me. He instigated the fight. He

35:30

made me do this. No, it's still a

35:32

choice that you make. Yeah, but you know what?

35:34

I don't want to penalize your choice. Okay, we're

35:36

talking in circles. I think I've made my point

35:38

very clear. If

35:41

in the moment the referees think

35:43

it's a five-minute major, Shifley shouldn't

35:46

get an instigator. No instigator. Fill

35:48

your boots or whatever you want at that point. We

35:51

made a mistake. We thought it was a five.

35:53

So go for it. Do whatever you need to do.

35:55

You're not going to get an instigator. Exactly.

36:00

I do think that. Like,

36:02

teammates are supposed to stand up for

36:04

each other, right? They're supposed to

36:06

stand up for each other. It's just such a

36:08

super old school way to think about it. I'll

36:10

tell you who agrees with me. When this podcast

36:12

drops, you know where I'm going to be right

36:14

and you're going to be wrong in

36:17

the province of Manitoba. Oh

36:20

yes, I know that is true. I know

36:22

what that is. Merrick hates

36:24

Manitoba. He hates it. He

36:27

has told me before it

36:29

should be cut out of Canada

36:31

with an exacto knife. No,

36:34

leave Thompson. I got a lot of friends

36:36

in Toronto. Actually, a lot of friends in

36:38

Winnipeg too. Leave part tonight. No, you think

36:40

you have friends in Winnipeg. That's over. Not

36:42

after today's pod. I like

36:44

Mark Shafley though. He doesn't like you anymore because you

36:46

want him thrown out of there too. Okay.

36:51

What do you make for five games? Oh, geez, five

36:53

games kid for the jet. Well, I was going to

36:55

get to that. First of

36:57

all, St. Louis won and

36:59

Calgary was also really mad about a whistle.

37:04

St. Louis won. I

37:07

give the Knights a lot of credit

37:09

this week. A lot

37:11

of credit. They

37:14

had a huge game against St. Louis. They were down

37:16

their number one goalie. They're down their number one defenseman.

37:18

They won it. That

37:20

was a hard game. Logan

37:23

Thompson, a huge penalty

37:25

shot save and then they win it at the

37:27

other end of the ice basically right after. They

37:30

blew the one point in

37:33

Nashville. They should have won that

37:35

game. They lost, but

37:37

they still got another point. Then they

37:39

win that game in Winnipeg, a really tough

37:41

place to play. They

37:43

get five out of a possible six

37:45

points when they're short-handed. You

37:49

know too, St. Louis wins that game.

37:54

The pressure ratchets up on

37:56

the Golden Knights. You

37:59

should never question that. the heart of a team

38:01

that just won a championship and is the defending

38:03

champions but I think if anyone

38:05

doubted what the Golden Knights were capable of and

38:07

how much was still left there they

38:10

showed that this week very impressive

38:12

a week for them

38:14

you know as for the Jets and

38:16

and the way they've played it was

38:18

basically a 2-1 game right like there

38:21

were two empty net goals it

38:23

was it was a 2-1 game it was

38:26

a hard game you

38:32

know I I don't really know what

38:34

to say there except that I don't

38:36

look at that as like it's it's a bad

38:38

loss because they've lost five in a row but

38:41

I saw a team that played really hard

38:43

against another good team and

38:45

could have won that game like there

38:47

have been some games in this stretch

38:50

where they've like the Washington game last

38:52

Sunday where I simply have said they've

38:54

been good enough to win and they

38:57

haven't won like do

39:00

you disagree with me like I thought they were

39:02

no and you know here's the

39:04

thing that's usually the indication again this is

39:06

like an old-school way to think but I've

39:08

always believed this too that's an indication that

39:10

you're coming out of a slump when

39:13

you lose games you should have won yeah

39:15

and conversely when you win games you should

39:17

have lost then that sometimes means that you're

39:19

heading into one right remember we talked to

39:21

McDavid and Drysidal around All-Star and we mentioned

39:23

you know some of the games that drain

39:25

their streak they probably should have lost yeah

39:27

but just you know surfed on skill and

39:29

won and they kind of said like oh

39:31

yeah those things happen I've always you know

39:33

subscribed to that theory that you're

39:36

you're going into a slump when you win games

39:38

you should lose as you're coming out of one

39:40

when you lose games you That's

39:42

how I feel about the Jets like back game

39:45

last night they lost but that wasn't

39:47

a 4-1 game that was a 2-1 game Meanwhile

39:51

the National Predators streak is

39:53

over at 18 games

39:56

it comes crumbling down at the

39:58

hands of the Arizona The Arizona

40:00

Coyotes who double them

40:02

up 8-4 Elliott at

40:04

Mullet Arena. Hang

40:06

on, hang on. Josh Dohn and

40:08

the Arizona Coyotes take care of

40:11

the Nashville Predators. Just thought I'd

40:13

slide that in there, Scottsdale kid

40:15

and all. I mean it

40:17

was due to happen, right? I

40:20

just didn't think anyone expected it was going

40:22

to be against Arizona Coyotes, especially when

40:24

Jason Zucker scored two quickies to make

40:26

it 2-0. Yeah, classic trap game, I

40:28

guess. Right in

40:31

between a couple of major opponents. Look,

40:33

when they scored to make it 7-4 with 3-20 left,

40:35

was I the only one who thought they were going

40:37

to score three more to tie it just because of

40:40

what happened against Vegas the other night? I

40:42

guess they were due. They were due. Incredible

40:45

streak, great streak. And

40:48

the Jets can breathe a little easier because

40:50

there's still four points back of them. But

40:54

what a run. What a run for Nashville.

40:57

And all good things must

40:59

come to an end. What

41:01

aren't they allowed to do now that they've been beaten

41:03

8-4? So

41:06

you're suggesting that Burnett

41:08

finds something to cancel another leisure activity?

41:12

9-2 against that. Or Barry Trots and Burnett.

41:15

8-4 against the Arizona Coyotes. What do they

41:18

take away now? What do the

41:20

principals take away from their students? Oh,

41:22

you thought you were going to see

41:24

your kids tomorrow? No, that's not happening.

41:28

Tomorrow you're skating, not a single puck hits the

41:30

ice. See you at 8 a.m. Gentlemen. That

41:33

would be hilarious. I'm sorry. You

41:35

thought you were going to see your children? That's

41:38

all right. Florida Panthers.

41:41

You mentioned the Islanders a couple of moments ago

41:43

and that's a huge win for the Islanders. They're

41:46

now at 77 points, etc. We

41:49

have an all-timer from Paul Maurice. Today

41:52

is free quote effing day. Take

41:55

whatever you think I might say and

41:57

use it, I won't bitch about it.

42:01

Paul Maurice with an all-time

42:03

quote after the Florida Panthers

42:05

lost against the New York Islanders. And

42:07

that covers some ground because Paul's

42:09

given out some great quotes over

42:12

the years but today is free

42:14

quote effing day. Take

42:16

whatever you think I might say and use

42:18

it. First of

42:20

all I have to say that I would take

42:22

Paul Maurice up on that. If

42:27

I was a media reporter for

42:29

the Florida Panthers, I

42:32

would say George Richards or Colby Guy

42:35

or David Dwork. It's

42:38

harder for a guy like Jameson because

42:40

it's nhl.com and while I think they

42:42

have really tried to work to give

42:44

those guys more autonomy, it's still under

42:47

the NHL umbrella so it's harder

42:49

for him to make up Paul Maurice quotes and get

42:51

away with it. But if I was

42:53

one of the other reporters there that do a

42:55

really nice job of covering the team, I

42:58

would be making up these quotes. I would say

43:00

the Florida Panthers

43:03

lost to

43:05

the New York Islanders on Thursday

43:08

and my first quote would be,

43:12

I thought we absolutely stunk and I hate

43:14

every single one of my players. And I

43:16

would just put that in the quote. And

43:19

then the next day I would

43:21

just be curious to see what the reaction would

43:23

be. Here's a

43:25

list of the players I believe to

43:28

be overpaid. That's right.

43:31

Remember when I said that Sam Reinhardt had a

43:33

bad attitude the other day and you guys thought

43:35

I was kidding? I really meant

43:38

it. That would

43:41

be awesome. An all-timer from Paul Maurice.

43:44

I saw Randy Mohler and

43:47

Ed Jovanovski on our broadcast and

43:49

I said I'm going to address

43:51

those guys on Saturday

43:54

because they're better than anyone else that

43:56

I have. I would just be going

43:58

with it. I

44:02

look at our team and I

44:04

say this is a squad that

44:06

wouldn't check their hats. That's why

44:08

we're bringing Jeff Chikrin out of

44:10

retirement, Ed Jovanoski as well,

44:12

Randy Moller to Elliot's point. Expect

44:14

them in the lineup this weekend.

44:17

End of conference. And then I say heck, Steve

44:21

Goldstein and Doug Plagans may play

44:23

too. That would

44:27

be a lot of fun. Thank

44:29

you Paul for the all time. I

44:32

was having a conversation with someone

44:34

about that. They said, do

44:36

you think that that's going to lead to

44:39

any discipline or any fine or anything like

44:41

that? And I said, I hope

44:43

not. Now

44:46

I think Maurice has been kind

44:48

of warned about some of his

44:50

language before, but I'm like that

44:52

is so harmless. That is so

44:55

harmless. It's funny. For

44:57

example, did you see what happened

44:59

in the NBA on Wednesday night?

45:02

Kelly Oubre, he got upset at

45:04

the end of the 76ers Clipper

45:06

game and he went at the

45:08

referees. I'm not going

45:10

to repeat what he said to them, but sometimes

45:13

I wonder what the Rogers rules

45:15

are about this stuff. But people

45:18

can go find it. He

45:20

apologized the next day and people were

45:22

laughing about it all over social media.

45:25

To me, we shouldn't be taking this

45:27

stuff seriously. We should be

45:30

laughing at it and writing made

45:32

up stories. So

45:34

I hope that that doesn't go

45:36

anywhere. The other thing I wanted to mention was

45:38

there's a great game between the Rangers and the

45:40

Avalanche which the Rangers won

45:43

in a shootout. So

45:49

Nathan McKinnon, who has had a

45:51

phenomenal season and

45:55

as we sit here recording his podcast,

45:57

he would be number one. on

46:00

my hard ballot right now. His

46:04

streak of home games with

46:06

a point was snapped

46:09

at 35, just

46:12

shy of the NHL record.

46:15

Now, I didn't realize

46:17

this, but postgame,

46:20

some of the reporters who

46:22

cover the Avalanche

46:24

had quotes from like Devon Taves

46:27

saying, oh, I thought he got

46:29

an assist on my goal. And

46:32

a few of them reported

46:34

that the Avalanche have asked the league to

46:36

look at it. And I

46:38

don't know where this will go, but

46:41

it brought back some old

46:43

memories of when I

46:45

used to do baseball,

46:48

Jeff. And so

46:50

it was early in my career and I

46:52

was working for the fan and like I

46:55

was doing a lot of baseball reporting and

46:57

my job was to just get quotes after

46:59

the games. I wasn't on air as much

47:01

as I was just there to

47:03

get quotes. And I saw

47:05

for the first time, there was a time

47:07

I used

47:09

to sit behind the official scorer and there

47:11

were a few of them. There was one

47:13

guy, Neil McCarl, there was another guy, Doug

47:15

Hobbs. And I remember there

47:18

was one time where, and I think I'm

47:21

getting this story right. I may

47:25

get the names wrong, but I remember the play.

47:27

Manny Ramirez was still playing for Cleveland

47:31

and he had a chance to hit for

47:33

the cycle in Toronto. And

47:35

he hit a deep fly

47:37

ball to right field and Sean Green was

47:39

playing right field and

47:42

he caught it, but

47:45

then he slammed into the

47:47

fence. And I think

47:49

at that time it was, there were parts of it that

47:51

were chain link. So it

47:53

hurts and he dropped the ball. And

47:57

I'm pretty sure it was Doug

47:59

Hobbs that day. called it an error. And

48:02

later in the game, you know, Ramirez, and

48:04

he ended up on third. They called it

48:06

a three base error. And he

48:08

hit a home run in the game and

48:10

I think got a single, like basically he

48:12

had a chance to get this. He either

48:15

had the cycle minus the error or he

48:17

could get the cycle. And Mike

48:19

Hargrove was the manager of

48:22

Cleveland at the time and he

48:24

called up the scorekeeper and I was right

48:26

there. I saw it and

48:28

like I could hear

48:31

Doug Hobbs end of the conversation and

48:33

he was like, no, I'm not changing

48:35

it. And Mike Hargrove was

48:38

saying, my player can get the cycle. That

48:40

was a tough play. You should change that

48:42

to a triple. And it was the first

48:44

time I really saw this and it used

48:47

to happen in baseball all

48:49

the time. Then I realized it was

48:51

one of those that like, I saw

48:53

Robbie Alomar go berserk after a game

48:55

once because he,

48:58

like there was a ground ball up the middle.

49:01

He made an incredible play to get to

49:03

it and he dropped it

49:05

and the player reached first base and

49:08

they called it, it was E4. They called

49:10

him for an error. And

49:13

in the post game, like Alomar went

49:15

wild. He complained to the reporters. He

49:17

said, it's terrible. I get an error

49:20

on that play. I'm the only second

49:22

baseman in baseball who can even get

49:24

to that and it's terrible. I

49:27

get an error. I remember asking some of the

49:29

more senior people that covered baseball. I

49:31

said, I think these

49:33

happen in a really short span of each other. And I

49:35

was like, how often does this happen?

49:37

And they go all the

49:39

time. Like you would not

49:42

believe how often they

49:45

pressure score, scorekeepers to change

49:47

their calls. And so

49:49

I'm curious to see if

49:51

McKinnon gets the point for this, but

49:54

I thought it was interesting how, like you know

49:57

him, like he doesn't care. He was wants to

49:59

win the game. understand that copy doesn't care

50:01

about anything else but I am

50:03

curious to see if the NHL does review

50:06

it and consider changing it at all. You

50:09

want a little historical perspective on assist? Sure.

50:12

You want a quick story? Sure. So

50:14

this gives you a little peek into how exciting my life is. If

50:17

you ever get a chance either go to the Hockey

50:20

Hall of Fame or if you can reserve time to

50:22

do any research at the Hall of

50:24

Fame Resource Center in the west end of the city, go

50:27

look at old game sheets between like 1970

50:29

and 1921. No,

50:34

you know what's fascinating about it? I didn't

50:36

realize this and this was only

50:38

like, it would have been like around 2005. I

50:42

was at the Hall of Fame Resource Center. I can't

50:44

remember what I was researching but I booked out a

50:46

number of hours to go through a few things and

50:49

I was looking at old game sheets and on a

50:51

lot of the old game sheets, this

50:54

is before assists were consistently

50:56

awarded. All

50:59

the score keepers were encouraged to award

51:01

assists and as someone at the resource

51:03

center explained to me, I asked

51:06

this, what's this note on the game sheet all

51:08

about? It occurred on a number of

51:11

game sheets. Can you please make sure for

51:13

as many goals as possible you award, I

51:15

can't remember however many number of assists. At

51:17

one point it was each goal had a

51:19

potential for three assists. I

51:22

asked about it and this person at the resource

51:24

center said to me, well in

51:26

all honesty, it's more a

51:28

piece of marketing than anything else. The

51:31

NHL, the more numbers you have beside

51:34

players names, it makes them look better.

51:37

If you have like two goals, okay,

51:39

well that's fine. Joe Smith has two

51:41

goals but if Joe Smith has two

51:44

goals and 18 assists, then

51:46

you put a 20 beside that person's name

51:48

and all of a sudden they

51:50

look like wonderful hockey players. It was

51:52

a piece of marketing. It

51:54

was a way to make their players look like

51:56

they're doing something more substantial on the ice. make

52:00

the argument even more so that

52:02

in the age of analytics because

52:04

there was a human cry

52:07

around what is an assist? All we

52:09

need to know is who scored the

52:11

goal. That's the person who's doing the

52:14

work. I would make the argument that

52:16

the first analytic was assists because

52:18

there was a time when people looked

52:20

at that and said, that stat is

52:22

nonsense and that stat tells us nothing.

52:25

All we need to know is

52:27

who scored the goal. But interesting,

52:29

originally, Elliot, assists were there for

52:32

marketing purposes. Interesting.

52:36

They still are, I would like to argue. I

52:40

think a lot of things were done for

52:42

marketing reasons, but nonetheless, assists were one

52:44

of the originals. So basically, we'll just

52:46

say that Conor McDavid is going to be

52:48

the fourth player ever to have a

52:51

hundred marketing opportunities in one season. Yes,

52:53

exactly. Before we wrap

52:55

it up, you mentioned his name briefly. We

52:58

should mention Josh Stone. First

53:00

Arizona player ever to have

53:03

two goals in their debut.

53:05

I think the third player in franchise

53:08

history going back to Winnipeg and Dale

53:10

Howardchuck to have four points in

53:13

their first three games. Shane

53:16

Doan only had, I think, four points in his first

53:18

two games. Shane Doan, I think,

53:20

only had three, which relegates him to the second

53:22

best player in family history.

53:25

But, you know, the Coyotes did a real nice

53:27

job with this. They,

53:31

you know, the lap, they did a

53:33

great video of the GM, Bill Armstrong,

53:37

making, of Jim,

53:39

Bill Armstrong, making the call to Doan that he

53:41

was going to play. Like, look,

53:43

this has been a hard time for

53:45

the Coyotes. I was actually talking about this

53:48

with someone on Thursday. You know,

53:50

you look at Matthews, 59 goals. You

53:54

look at Nyes in Toronto, he's going to be

53:56

a hell of a player for them. And

54:00

now you look at Don, it's, it's

54:02

a, like, he was saying to me,

54:05

it just shows you why Betman

54:12

fights with every last breath

54:15

for Arizona. Because

54:17

this market, like it's never

54:19

been the fan's fault and

54:22

it's never been the player's fault

54:25

because they are, like, if you take a

54:27

look at, like there's former players like Derek

54:30

Morris, Dallas Drake,

54:32

I think is a coach down there

54:34

now, like there are good former players

54:37

who are coaching these kids now and they're

54:39

turning out players. Like the,

54:42

they said that the fault of

54:44

that organization has always been location. And

54:49

he said to me, like, Josh Thorne is another

54:51

example of a homegrown Arizona

54:53

kid that has a chance to make

54:55

a difference. Like nobody's like Matthews. Matthews

54:58

is, you know, a

55:01

different breed, but you look at

55:03

Knys, you look at Thorne, just

55:05

another example of like they, and

55:07

they are turning out players. And

55:10

he said to me, and this is a

55:12

guy who works in the league, he says,

55:15

this is why they should find a way to make

55:17

it work. Because from a hockey

55:19

development point of view, you have

55:21

to like what's coming out of there and

55:24

it's not the players and the fans fault

55:26

that this hasn't worked. And

55:29

furthermore, let me add one more later to that

55:31

too. If it could

55:33

ever sort itself out properly with

55:36

a proper arena that is

55:38

easily acceptable, that

55:40

is easily accessible to fans. Well, acceptable works

55:42

too, I have to say. Like that

55:44

actually works there. Acceptable and

55:47

accessible to fans that

55:49

it would be considering all the

55:51

benefits you get, not just from

55:54

playing there, but all the

55:56

benefits outside of hockey as well. That

55:59

should be... a destination for hockey

56:01

players. Yeah. Oh,

56:04

and that's the other thing he said to me is that's the

56:06

other thing the league knows. Like, it's

56:08

looking at everybody wants to play in Vegas,

56:11

everybody wants to play in Florida. If

56:14

they sorted that out, there would be a ton of

56:16

players that wanted to play in Arizona. You

56:19

are totally, totally

56:22

right about this. And

56:24

also don't look now, but

56:26

the Dallas Stars are taking

56:29

their run at number

56:31

one in the NHL, 101 points

56:35

right behind the first team

56:37

to clinch a playoff berth in the NHL this

56:40

year. The New York

56:42

Rangers and Shasturkin was out of

56:44

his mind in Colorado on Thursday.

56:49

They could have gone, Colorado could have

56:51

gone through their entire roster and Jared

56:55

Bednar could have taken a shot. They

56:57

could have signed Merrick Malik to a

56:59

one day contract to let him shoot.

57:02

Nobody Elliot was beating Shasturkin in

57:05

that shootout. Nobody. He

57:08

was phenomenal. And by the way, to the

57:10

Dallas Stars, they clinch. So

57:12

teams that have clinched already, you mentioned the

57:14

Rangers with all the Dallas Stars in that

57:16

mix as well. They clinched on Thursday, as

57:18

did the Carolina Hurricanes, the Florida Panthers. And

57:21

even though they were idle, the Boston

57:23

Bruins. I think actually in that game,

57:25

the Avalanche should have sent two players.

57:29

Oh, I know one. Oh,

57:32

I see what you mean. You know, they should have done. They

57:34

should, they should have dressed Joe Sackick for one game. You want

57:36

to talk about a guy that's great on penalty shots? That's the

57:38

guy. That's the guy they should have had in 1998 shoot, but

57:40

he was injured. That's

57:43

what's on Canada. That's what's on the Okay,

58:07

time now once again for the Montana's

58:09

Thought Line, Montana's Barbecue and Bar Elliott,

58:12

Canada's home for barbecue. You

58:25

do love the squealing guitar. Thank you, Rick

58:27

Turner. 32 thoughts at sportsnet.ca. Jeff,

58:29

this will never not be funny to

58:32

me, never. And

58:34

we thank Rick Turner for all of that.

58:36

Thank you. 32 thoughts at sportsnet.ca. 1-833-311-3232. We

58:41

begin this edition of the Montana's Thought

58:43

Line once again by a little bit

58:45

of cleanup, a little bit of janitorial

58:47

work, Elliott. To our guest on Jengra

58:50

conversation last week, we read out an

58:52

email from Matt. I had

58:54

the audacity to question the

58:56

authenticity of his claim

58:58

about his son stopping a guest

59:00

on Jengra shot with his mask,

59:03

which looks a puck, to

59:05

which Matt follows up with this

59:07

one. Hey again, while I

59:10

do find time to listen to your podcast,

59:12

I don't have so much free time that

59:14

I can make up guest on Jengra stories.

59:17

In case the story seems suspect, I've

59:19

attached a picture of Carter, that's his

59:21

son, proudly holding the damaged puck. They're

59:24

now providing evidence because you doubted them.

59:27

Yes, I know. How dare I?

59:29

Have a great day. Thanks for the pod.

59:32

And yes, he sent along a picture of

59:34

Carter with the autographed puck from guest on

59:36

Jengra. One final guest on Jengra email.

59:39

People are now providing evidence

59:41

when we doubt it. Yeah,

59:43

if you claim that guest on Jengra broke

59:45

your hand with a slap shot, we want

59:48

the x-rays. And I want the x-rays autographed

59:50

by guest on Jengra. Send them along, please.

59:52

I did get one great tweet from

59:54

a Mike Bauman who said, the Titanic

59:57

wasn't sunk by an iceberg. of

1:00:00

a hole from Gaston Zingrach.

1:00:03

I like that. Cal in Vermont sends this

1:00:05

one. Excellent. One time in Montreal, I heard there was

1:00:07

a bank heist with many people inside. While

1:00:09

waiting for police to show up, Gaston Zingrach

1:00:11

was walking home from practice and noticed the

1:00:13

commotion. Zingrach grabbed a can of

1:00:15

soda out of the trash and took a

1:00:18

rocket of a shot that broke through the

1:00:20

bank's front glass and caught the robber between

1:00:22

the eyes, knocking him out until the Mounties.

1:00:24

Oh, nice touch. The Mounties showed up. True

1:00:26

story. Submits Cal

1:00:28

in Vermont. Always appreciate the

1:00:30

exaggeration about the slapshot of

1:00:33

Gaston Zingrach. All right. Two

1:00:35

more serious things, Elliot. I don't know where this

1:00:37

is going, but I'm looking forward to the ride.

1:00:40

More Gaston Zingrach stories. Thank you. Blake,

1:00:43

greetings Jeff, Elliot and Dom. Long

1:00:45

time listener from Stratford, Ontario and

1:00:48

graduate of Jeff's favorite school, Western

1:00:50

University. Yes. I

1:00:52

was at the on Stratford. God bless the William Allman

1:00:54

Arena. I would like to build

1:00:57

up the submission to the last pod

1:00:59

regarding Wayne Simmons and the one day contract.

1:01:02

Is there any provision in the

1:01:04

CBA forbidding a player from receiving

1:01:06

compensation on a one day contract?

1:01:08

Could a team say Tampa with

1:01:10

Stamcoast offer a discounted contract extension

1:01:13

with the understanding Stamcoast will receive

1:01:15

a one day contract at

1:01:17

the end of his career with

1:01:20

a significant signing bonus?

1:01:22

Elliot Friedman. One

1:01:24

day contracts are ceremonial. So

1:01:26

the answer to the question is no. It's a great

1:01:29

question, but the answer is no. They

1:01:31

are purely ceremonial. They don't go onto the

1:01:33

cap. I mean, look, if you

1:01:35

want to funnel money to Stamcoast or Simmons

1:01:39

for whatever reason, I'm sure they will gladly

1:01:41

accept it. But it's not

1:01:43

a cap thing. It's purely honorary

1:01:45

and ceremonial. This

1:01:48

one's a lot of fun. A little bit

1:01:50

of historical knowledge for everybody here. Justin from

1:01:52

Campbell River, home of the Rod Brindamore Arena.

1:01:55

Hey, Jeff, Elliot and Dom. I

1:01:58

was watching a video by The Hockey Guy on YouTube. today

1:02:00

and he cracked the joke about Patrick Wah

1:02:02

being fed up with his goaltending and going

1:02:04

in net to do it himself. Man, could

1:02:06

we ever see Patrick doing that or what?

1:02:10

With Hall of Fame goalies working in

1:02:12

managerial and coaching positions all over the

1:02:15

league, is there anything from stopping

1:02:17

team executives from serving as the E-bug in

1:02:19

a game? Has a situation

1:02:21

like this ever happened? As a

1:02:23

grizzled Canucks fan, nothing would bring

1:02:26

me more joy than a 44-year-old

1:02:28

Luwango storming down the tunnel WWE

1:02:30

style to defend his panthers thanks for

1:02:32

the thoughts and the awesome pod. That

1:02:34

one. You know where I thought he

1:02:37

was going with that? As a

1:02:39

Canucks fan, I thought he was going to say 75

1:02:41

year old Jim

1:02:43

Rutherford appearing in the playoffs. Or

1:02:46

John Garrett coming

1:02:48

out of the broadcast booth to don the

1:02:50

pads. There's any number of choices you can

1:02:53

make there Elliot? Yes, yes there

1:02:55

are. The Canucks could have a very

1:02:57

interesting playoff of all of this falls

1:02:59

into place or even one of these

1:03:01

fall into place. Once

1:03:04

upon a time you can make the argument that the

1:03:06

original E-bug. Well you're going to talk about the most

1:03:08

famous one. Well and that's the original E-bug as I

1:03:10

like to call them, Lester Patrick. Yes. So this is

1:03:13

1928 and it

1:03:16

is the Rangers and the Montreal Maroon Stanley

1:03:18

Cup Final at the Montreal Forum. Lauren

1:03:22

Shabbat was the goaltender for the Rangers

1:03:24

got hit with a Nell Stewart backhand,

1:03:27

caught him in the left eye, he

1:03:29

races to the hospital obviously. The Rangers

1:03:31

asked to use a number of other

1:03:34

goaltenders who were there. Alex

1:03:36

Connell, Ottawa Senators netmiter at the

1:03:39

time was there but

1:03:41

the Maroons disagreed and wouldn't allow the Rangers to

1:03:43

do it. Yes I remember that was a big

1:03:45

part of it. Big part of it.

1:03:47

So Lester Patrick at 44, coach and

1:03:50

general manager of the Rangers, went

1:03:52

in. He faced 19 shots.

1:03:55

He only allowed one goal. Frank

1:03:57

Boucher scored an overtime. The Rangers won.

1:04:00

They went on to win the series

1:04:02

and the Stanley Cup, their first Stanley

1:04:04

Cup victory ever from

1:04:06

the legend, along

1:04:08

with his brother Frank, the man that

1:04:10

we were all indebted to for a

1:04:13

number of rules changes that his old

1:04:15

Pacific Hockey League ushered into existence. That

1:04:18

still exists to this day. I think it's like

1:04:20

30 rules that still exists to this

1:04:22

day from his old PCHL. Lester

1:04:25

Patrick Elliott, the original E-bug. Would

1:04:27

there be anything though stopping? I

1:04:29

don't know, Marty Burderer, Roberto Luongo from

1:04:32

donning the pads and saying, I

1:04:35

will be the E-bug tonight. Well,

1:04:37

the E-bug has to be set in

1:04:39

advance, right? Boo. Boo. It

1:04:45

would be pretty funny if Vancouver knew

1:04:47

that they were locked in. Jim

1:04:50

Rutherford submitted himself as the E-bug

1:04:53

for a game at the end of this year. Yeah,

1:04:55

I'll be the E-bug tonight. Yeah, I'll

1:04:57

be the E-bug. I'm Jim Rutherford. I can do

1:04:59

whatever I want. Yeah, John Garrett. Yeah.

1:05:01

I'm going to have a hot dog. I'm going

1:05:04

to have some ketchup and my goaltending equipment. I'm

1:05:06

going to play. You know that happened to him in Quebec.

1:05:08

Do you ever hear that story? Yes, you did talk about

1:05:10

that. He

1:05:12

was backing up and he was eating a hot dog and he

1:05:15

stuffed it in his goalie pads when he got ushered into duty

1:05:17

and during a fray in front of the net, the hot dog

1:05:19

popped out. Attaboy, Cheech! Thanks

1:05:22

for the question. Adam, gentlemen, the

1:05:25

question from the last podcast concerning how

1:05:27

the salary cap is calculated raised

1:05:29

another question for me. What

1:05:32

mechanisms are in place to make

1:05:34

the players whole given that teams

1:05:36

are not obligated to spend to the cap? For

1:05:39

argument's sake and to keep the math easy,

1:05:42

if 10 teams spent only to 10 million

1:05:45

below the cap ceiling, how would

1:05:47

that $100 million not

1:05:49

paid out in salaries be

1:05:51

made up to the players? That's

1:05:55

actually a good question. The

1:05:58

way it is is that if everybody's

1:06:01

well below the cap then

1:06:03

you know basically it comes down to revenues right

1:06:05

like that's just the best way to put it

1:06:08

it comes down to revenues it's

1:06:11

not so much about cap spending

1:06:13

it comes down to revenue spending

1:06:16

the the revenues are split it's

1:06:18

50-50 but there are some costs that

1:06:20

get taken out but it's

1:06:22

50-50 and the players are supposed to get

1:06:24

half and the league is supposed to get

1:06:27

half and the reason there is an escrow

1:06:30

is to protect against one

1:06:32

side getting too much and

1:06:34

then you have to go back and

1:06:36

collect that way you can distribute it

1:06:38

at the end based on what the

1:06:40

actual numbers are so if all of

1:06:42

these teams are spending well under the

1:06:45

cap but the revenues are high the

1:06:47

players are going to

1:06:50

get more it's

1:06:52

it's it's going to be that simple that's

1:06:57

like there have been situations before and

1:06:59

I will say this one

1:07:01

of the issues early in the cap

1:07:04

I can't remember how many years in it was but there

1:07:07

was one year when a lot of players were

1:07:09

going into LTI I can't remember which year it

1:07:11

was but I wrote about it or I've talked

1:07:13

about it before where the costs

1:07:15

were very high in terms

1:07:17

of salaries and the more

1:07:19

players were getting injured like basically

1:07:22

even if it was not a lot

1:07:24

of money but it just

1:07:27

kept on driving the costs

1:07:29

up and the players were like I mean one

1:07:31

player said to me he joked

1:07:33

he says he didn't know a lot about

1:07:36

the mechanism but he said I know that

1:07:38

the more players play at this point in

1:07:40

time it's worse for us so

1:07:42

I know it doesn't really come down to

1:07:44

as much about it

1:07:48

all depends on the revenues and

1:07:50

their relation to the costs so if

1:07:52

the revenues are good and costs

1:07:55

are down that's better for the

1:07:57

players it gets made up by either getting

1:07:59

money back or having less taken

1:08:01

out at the end of the year.

1:08:05

That's the safest way to explain it. Jack

1:08:08

and Kenora has a rules question, Elliot.

1:08:11

You'll like this one. Following

1:08:13

up on Tobias's question, this is from

1:08:16

last podcast, on a player not leaving

1:08:18

the box when his time is served,

1:08:20

and here's Michael Pekka as the example.

1:08:24

Jack submits, I played midget double A

1:08:26

and on occasion when playing from behind,

1:08:29

when taking a face off

1:08:31

in our defensive zone, our

1:08:33

team would withhold one player on

1:08:35

the bench. So I guess

1:08:38

his team would have four skaters and the

1:08:40

team in the offensive position would have five.

1:08:43

Upon puck drop, we would have our fifth

1:08:45

player jump over the boards in hopes of

1:08:48

a quick face off win and chip up for

1:08:50

a break away. Worked on

1:08:52

a few occasions, however, the opponent's team

1:08:54

would be up in arms. Is

1:08:57

playing unnecessarily short a legal play

1:08:59

in the NHL? It

1:09:02

was fun to try but never penalized

1:09:04

when refs noticed. Good

1:09:06

work, Elliot and Dom. Oh, how dare you,

1:09:08

Jack? Jack, I really like you and I

1:09:10

like Kenora even more for that. Um,

1:09:14

you know what the answer is, Elliot? I

1:09:17

do not. The answer is you

1:09:20

cannot do that. I've kind of

1:09:22

figured. Specifically in the defensive zone,

1:09:24

you have to, um, you

1:09:27

have to put all, you have to put the, uh,

1:09:29

the proper amount of players on the ice or the

1:09:32

referee has a discretion to call a

1:09:34

bench miner. Now

1:09:36

the one thing that I do wonder

1:09:38

about is if it was the offensive

1:09:41

team in that zone. If you're

1:09:43

in the offensive zone and you

1:09:46

choose to put out four instead

1:09:48

of five, considering you wouldn't

1:09:50

have the advantage of jumping behind the defenders

1:09:52

for a break away, I wonder if the

1:09:54

official would just say, you want to play

1:09:56

short handed? Go for it. There's no advantage

1:09:59

to be key. lean there. But

1:10:01

in the defensive side of things

1:10:03

in the defensive zone, if you don't

1:10:05

put the requisite amount of players out,

1:10:08

then you can be assessed a bench minor. You

1:10:11

know, I kind of, I didn't know that

1:10:13

it made sense about that because you often

1:10:15

see, you know, if there's, if

1:10:18

there's some sort of commotion or issue on a

1:10:20

face off, the referees will go over to the

1:10:22

bench and say, what are you doing here? Or

1:10:24

get us a player out here. I do remember

1:10:26

playing minor hockey back in house league. You

1:10:29

got really shamed if you forgot to

1:10:31

go out on the ice when you

1:10:33

were supposed to. Because, you

1:10:35

know, when I started, it was the buzzer,

1:10:37

right? If you were ready to go out

1:10:39

there when the buzzer went, either your coach

1:10:42

yelled at you or the official did. Like

1:10:44

I remember there was one time

1:10:46

I forgot and I got embarrassed

1:10:49

in front of my teammates. So

1:10:51

that only happened to me once. We'll

1:10:53

end up on this one. Jesper

1:10:55

the Danish goalie. Okay.

1:10:58

Jesper the Danish goalie. Hey, Jeff

1:11:00

Elliott. Is this Frederick Anderson's burner

1:11:03

account? It

1:11:05

might be. Hey, Jeff Elliott

1:11:07

and the sound dominator. Wow.

1:11:10

The sound. The

1:11:12

dominator. Yes.

1:11:15

Jesper from Denmark. Or is it Jesper?

1:11:18

Longtime listener of the pod. And as

1:11:20

a hockey geek, I love when Jeff

1:11:22

gets historical. Oh my. I

1:11:25

just listened to your pod and the question

1:11:27

about Jeff Skinner got me thinking about which

1:11:29

player. Now the Skinner question is he's close

1:11:31

to a thousand games here folks. He's never

1:11:33

played in a playoff game. That's the context.

1:11:36

So the question about Jeff Skinner got

1:11:38

me thinking about which player has the

1:11:40

most postseason games without winning

1:11:42

a Stanley cup. Let's go

1:11:45

ducks. Jesper the Danish

1:11:47

goaltender ads. This will be the last one.

1:11:49

So do you have a stab at this one? Okay.

1:11:53

I'm thinking this is, that's

1:11:55

a great first time's always the

1:11:57

worst. Yeah, I know.

1:12:00

Uh, like I

1:12:02

know, like I'm trying to, I know guys

1:12:04

who played a lot of

1:12:06

games, but they want like Chellios, Scott

1:12:10

Stevens, Larry Robinson. They

1:12:14

all want cops, yo. Yeah. Oh,

1:12:17

you know what? Like I'll tell you this, you know,

1:12:19

the two guys who jump into my head are, I

1:12:22

don't know if it's the right answer,

1:12:24

but the two guys who jump into my head

1:12:27

are Joe Thornton and Patrick Marlowe. Reverse

1:12:30

order, but you got it right. Is

1:12:32

Marlowe, Marlowe 1, Thornton 2? Correct.

1:12:35

You got it. Patrick Marlowe, good for

1:12:37

you. Marlowe 195. I am retiring from

1:12:39

trivia. Joe Thornton

1:12:41

187. I'm going out on top. Here's

1:12:44

the other one. Here's the next one. You know

1:12:46

who comes in at number three? I never would

1:12:48

have got this. Okay, okay. Give me like, give

1:12:50

me a clue. Give me, don't tell me. Give

1:12:53

me a clue. Oh, geez.

1:12:56

I'm glad

1:13:00

Thornton and Marlowe

1:13:02

won gold medals. At least

1:13:04

that's something. Like you don't have to

1:13:07

deal with that. Yes. Okay, so

1:13:09

your clue is this player

1:13:11

and his brother are still

1:13:14

significant names in hockey. Is

1:13:17

it Dale Hunter? It's Dale Hunter. Geez,

1:13:19

good for you. I retired again. I

1:13:23

came out of retirement and now

1:13:25

I'm back into retirement. Holy smokes

1:13:27

for each. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,

1:13:30

Dale Hunter. Yeah. Yeah.

1:13:33

You turned out to the Montreal Forum. Phil Dale Hunter. I

1:13:35

feel right there. Yeah, I love them. Love

1:13:37

them. Patrick Marlowe number one, Joe Thornton number

1:13:39

two, Dale Hunter number three. You

1:13:41

know what, I wouldn't have gotten it without that in. Take

1:13:46

the rest of the week off. You nailed the

1:13:48

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1:13:50

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1:15:17

was gonna say insert your 2011 Stanley Cup final

1:15:19

jokes here but I kind of walked into that

1:15:21

one a couple of things

1:15:24

before I let everyone know who's playing

1:15:26

on hockey net in Canada on Saturday

1:15:28

congratulations to the one the only Connor

1:15:32

McDavid I know

1:15:34

the accolades are mini for Connor McDavid

1:15:36

and now we'll add another one to

1:15:38

it Connor McDavid with 120

1:15:40

points for the

1:15:43

third consecutive season so he'll

1:15:45

join Nikita Kucherov and Nathan

1:15:47

McKinnon with the 120 points

1:15:49

this season and again as we

1:15:51

all know didn't look great for

1:15:53

the Oilers earlier this season didn't

1:15:55

look great for Connor McDavid earlier

1:15:57

this season but to everybody who's

1:16:00

said relax the

1:16:02

Oilers will be fine and McDavid will

1:16:04

be fine good on you and

1:16:07

congratulations to Connor McDavid. Now

1:16:09

three seasons in a row with 120 points.

1:16:13

Hockinette in Canada Saturday Elliott you already referenced the

1:16:15

Buffalo Sabres hosting the Toronto Maple Leafs and curious

1:16:17

to see how many Sabres fans have

1:16:19

sold their Leafs tickets for that one. Carolina

1:16:22

and Montreal it is Ottawa and

1:16:24

Winnipeg your late game the Los

1:16:26

Angeles Kings facing off against the

1:16:28

Calgary playing. The boring Los Angeles

1:16:30

Kings. Oh now all

1:16:33

of a sudden everyone's discovered that they're playing the 1-3-1.

1:16:35

Why did this just become a

1:16:38

thing this week is because the door off

1:16:40

about it that's all that it was and

1:16:42

now everyone just sort of clued into like

1:16:45

oh yeah they kind of. It's after the

1:16:47

trade deadline we need somebody to tell us

1:16:49

what to talk about and Zadorov coming through.

1:16:52

Thank You Nikita Zadorov. He'd be boring

1:16:54

Los Angeles Kings. Boring Jim Hillard. Who

1:16:57

just happened to have one of the best

1:16:59

first lines in the entire NHL. Boring. I

1:17:02

hope it's our campaign. Quinton Byfield? No nothing

1:17:04

you still call that one boring. Just boring.

1:17:06

All right facing off against the Calgary

1:17:09

Flames. Ottawa, Winnipeg, Carolina, Montreal, Toronto and

1:17:11

the Buffalo Sabres and that is

1:17:13

hockey night in Canada on Saturday. All gets

1:17:15

underway at 6.30 Eastern with Hockey Central and

1:17:18

your host Ron McLean. Do you closing thought

1:17:20

from you? Do you follow the OHL Cup

1:17:22

at all? I

1:17:24

do this one's thrilling this is Oakville facing

1:17:26

off against the Vaughan Kings the Berry Colts

1:17:28

getting knocked out. We a lot of us

1:17:31

thought that was gonna come down to the

1:17:33

Berry Colts and the Vaughan Kings one and

1:17:35

two in the rankings pretty much all season

1:17:37

long but some fresh blood

1:17:39

in there. Good on Oakville. Well

1:17:41

they're gonna play the final is

1:17:43

on Saturday. Saturday. And so basically

1:17:45

well just you should explain the

1:17:47

OHL Cup to people who don't

1:17:50

know. Okay so this

1:17:52

is for the the U16s and this is

1:17:54

I mean it's put together by the Ontario

1:17:56

Hockey League. We used to carry it on

1:17:58

Sportsnet Ontario. I loved being here. being a part

1:18:00

of it. It's always been one of my favorite tournaments. So

1:18:03

after all the the OMHA and the

1:18:05

Alliance and the GTHL playoffs are all

1:18:08

done, they do what's called the OHL

1:18:10

Cup and a lot of teams earn

1:18:12

their way in and a lot of

1:18:14

teams get invited in as well. And

1:18:17

it's a great, it's a wonderful tournament and it

1:18:19

takes place in Scotiabank Pond in

1:18:21

Toronto and it's packed

1:18:24

with scouts and nervous parents and

1:18:26

fans of just, you know, wonderful minor

1:18:29

midget hockey. And

1:18:31

it's really turned into, you know,

1:18:33

a peek at the future of not

1:18:35

just the Ontario Hockey League, but also

1:18:38

the NHL. Like, you know, pick

1:18:40

anyone, any prospect from Ontario, chances are they

1:18:42

played in the OHL Cup. Like the best

1:18:44

team that I ever saw is actually a team

1:18:46

that didn't win it and that was Connor McGavids

1:18:48

Toronto Marlboro. They ended up losing to the

1:18:51

Mississauga Rebels team led by Robbie Fabry.

1:18:53

And you'll go through like the history

1:18:55

of the OHL Cup, like you'll go

1:18:57

through all the teams and it's

1:19:00

a steady stream of like elite

1:19:02

level high end NHL

1:19:05

players. And you know,

1:19:07

you'll see the guys that played in

1:19:09

this year's tournament showing up in the

1:19:11

NHL in four or five years. Essentially

1:19:14

what I'm getting at here, marvelous tournament,

1:19:16

elite level hockey, a lot

1:19:18

of fun. You get to see some

1:19:20

crazy fans and some crazy parents who

1:19:22

are very, very invested in their teams.

1:19:26

And you get to see some tremendous hockey

1:19:28

and best of luck to the two teams

1:19:31

that made the finals, the team from Vaughan

1:19:33

and the team from Oakville. Well, I noticed, you know,

1:19:35

it's a great tournament. It's a great tournament. It sounds

1:19:37

like it. And I remember watching it when you worked

1:19:39

on it. But so as you

1:19:41

mentioned, the final is going to be the

1:19:44

Oakville Rangers against the Vaughan Kings. And for

1:19:46

those of you who are not familiar with

1:19:49

Southwestern Ontario geography, Oakville

1:19:52

is about 45 minutes west

1:19:55

of Toronto. If you drive like Jeff,

1:19:57

it's about two hours west of Toronto.

1:19:59

So if you drive like me, it's about 35 minutes.

1:20:03

It's the home of Ron McLean. And

1:20:06

Vaughn is just north of Toronto. And

1:20:09

the Vaughn Kings and the MVP for

1:20:11

the Vaughn Kings in the semi-final with

1:20:14

a goal was one Caleb

1:20:16

Malhotra. There's

1:20:19

another one of them. Oh,

1:20:21

dude. There's another Malhotra. He's

1:20:23

so good. He's awesome as

1:20:26

well. He's

1:20:28

fantastic. And that's Manny's side in

1:20:30

case you're wondering. So congratulations to

1:20:32

Manny and Caleb. And also

1:20:35

as we wrap up, I would like to,

1:20:37

our producer

1:20:40

Dom, I know this is a big weekend

1:20:42

for you Dom, so happy Easter

1:20:45

to you Dom and to

1:20:47

everyone who celebrates. Thank

1:20:50

you. Perfect way to wrap up.

1:20:52

Thanks for listening. Your next

1:20:54

podcast comes to you as usual Monday morning.

1:20:57

Have a great week.