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Job 28:1-29:13 (Episode 410)

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Job 28:1-29:13 (Episode 410)

Job 28:1-29:13 (Episode 410)

Job 28:1-29:13 (Episode 410)

Job 28:1-29:13 (Episode 410)

Wednesday, 20th March 2024
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the show as well. And we would appreciate

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that. Chad, we

1:11

got a little bit of something different, a

1:14

little something different in Job today. So

1:17

far, we've been for weeks now. We've

1:19

been hearing arguments back and forth and

1:21

back and forth. And some of it

1:23

sounded a little redundant and some

1:25

of the same arguments being served up a different

1:27

way. And now

1:31

you have this weird break. Job

1:34

kind of ended with this

1:36

sort of... It's a little

1:38

bit hard to discern, but he

1:41

seems to be making his friend's argument back

1:43

to them. He has some points of agreement.

1:46

He basically is saying that you're right about

1:48

some things, but you're wrong about me. And

1:52

then goes in chapter 28. If you pulled 28 out

1:55

and you just Went

1:58

right to 29, It

2:00

would feel more fluid. And

2:03

but Twenty Eight sounds like a job

2:05

is A. He goes a little bit

2:07

of a bunny trail here. Rialto seems

2:09

like easy, takes a little bit of

2:11

a side road and and Twenty Nine

2:13

sort of circles back around. So the

2:15

what's going on. Yeah,

2:18

which is why in Iraq and To and

2:20

We we can say definitively, but this is

2:22

kind of the direction that oddly nights I

2:24

seem to think that the joke twenty eight

2:27

is. Actually, not by.

2:29

Not. By job. But

2:32

instead the says. He inserted

2:34

probably by whoever this anonymous person is

2:37

who's the real author? job that we

2:39

don't I mean maybe we talked about

2:41

this. We started the smoke battle. remember

2:43

have slipped to Thompson, said we don't

2:45

have a Rojo. A packed

2:47

with you know it's hard even

2:49

position that is historically it's it's

2:51

clout seer Know what will be

2:53

called the patriarchal period. Ah,

2:56

but you know it on who wrote it. With

2:59

assault, all that matters not given to

3:01

us, but it does seem as if

3:03

it's logical to think that. Tip:

3:05

Twenty Cars serves as an interlude.

3:09

The kind of a segway between everything

3:11

that we've been covering so far that

3:13

you you just described and then what

3:15

is what is to com. So a

3:17

lot of people lot of scholars will

3:19

suggest that this is actually written by

3:21

whoever wrote Job and inserted here as

3:23

that kind of a chance to hey

3:25

support of the brakes. Of

3:27

her lot are going back and forth. Back

3:29

and forth. And we're We're about to hear

3:32

gonna three long speeches. Job has more to

3:34

say. He's. Gonna he's

3:36

gonna' can give his final

3:38

closing argument for. Who.

3:41

He was and I'll always be com. And.

3:44

And you going to have. This guy pop

3:46

up out of nowhere. some young angry

3:49

theologian by the name of a lie

3:51

Who are these a seminary is running

3:53

seminarian? Yeah. how to with with apologies

3:55

those seminarians. Other other eliza second year

3:58

seminaries. Can

4:00

say that I've been there saghir seminarians. We

4:02

get it all figured out. A.

4:04

Lie: Who's. You. Know. Get. All

4:06

for gonna. He's gonna. He's gonna drop

4:08

supposed manas. So. That's gonna

4:11

happen And then. You can

4:13

be told ignored and God is going to find

4:15

the begin to speak. So. He

4:17

had three big speeches come out.

4:19

He got Job's last hurrah. He.

4:22

Who. And. Then you have got.

4:24

Sick. But before all that, we're

4:26

going to have this a. Beautiful.

4:30

Or exposition and is this is

4:32

poem on on wisdom is now

4:34

I have always thought that is

4:37

how Job Twenty read that it

4:39

it. It's like and the

4:41

it. Didn't. Narrator is like

4:43

a breaks in. Ah,

4:45

They they got another. Call it a breaking the

4:48

third walls of that is right the So hear.

4:50

Ya. Hear his gear Yeah this person

4:53

telling a story and. It

4:55

maybe just telling the story verbatim

4:57

and you're not giving any commentary.

5:00

You're not in or justine anything,

5:02

he just telling a story and

5:04

then know his paws and. You

5:07

begin to give your thoughts. You're

5:09

no longer just explaining what

5:12

happened in and these events

5:14

and and. Putting forward.

5:16

hey this guy said this and this Here's

5:18

how the arguments once but now you're out.

5:20

You're actually. Interjecting years, yourself,

5:22

and your thoughts into it. And

5:24

that's that's how Twenty Eight reads

5:27

to me. Yeah yeah

5:29

I think that that that up. It's perfectly and.

5:31

As order to see his it's kind of.

5:34

three main sections in are oblivious only I

5:36

believe job twenty eight is actually yards Twenty

5:38

eight vs as well. So are you get

5:40

three main parts you going to hear going

5:43

to start out Actually you're like what is

5:45

even talk like if you just pull this

5:47

out. And sort of really get to

5:49

someone. Ah they be like. Where.

5:52

You go in with us for the

5:54

first. You don't know a me like

5:56

talking about his precious metals and these

5:59

ancient mining techniques. Oh

6:01

okay, so what you eat? What's the

6:03

point of this and that is good.

6:05

Tell you are you get to refrains

6:07

which are up There are verbatim the

6:10

same but basically communicating the same things.

6:12

The first twelve will say were then,

6:14

but where shall wisdom be found? Where's

6:16

the place of understanding? And.

6:19

Then that's gonna lead into a

6:21

talk about all the the things

6:23

of great value that really are

6:25

of much less value than wisdom.

6:27

And then you're going as the

6:30

refrain again from where the and

6:32

as wasn't gun, where's the Place

6:34

Of Understanding as in a wrap

6:36

up in those closing vs with

6:38

with God saying. I'm.

6:40

The one. Who's got wisdom? And let me

6:42

tell you midnight what it is, So.

6:45

Of. That's what starts

6:47

out. sorry. These is opening few

6:49

verses. I'm first Eleven versus. Where.

6:52

We hear all about ancient mining

6:55

and how this works. Is

6:57

very This is unique in the old hasn't only

6:59

place illness me of stuff like this been discussed.

7:02

Surely. There is a mind for

7:04

silver. And. A place for gold

7:07

that they refine. Iron is

7:09

taken out of the earth and copper

7:11

smelt from the or. Man.

7:13

Puts an end to darkness and searches

7:16

out to the far. This limits the

7:18

or in bloom and darkness. He opens

7:20

shafts in a valley away from where

7:22

anyone lives. They are forgotten by

7:25

travelers. They hang in the

7:27

air far away for mankind. They swing

7:29

to and fro. As.

7:31

For the Earth. Out of it comes bread.

7:34

But. Underneath it has turned up. As.

7:36

By fire. It. Stones or

7:38

the place of Sapphire and it

7:40

has dust a gold. That.

7:43

Path know bird of prey nose and the falcons.

7:45

I has not seen it. The proud

7:47

beast or not trodden at the line

7:49

is not Passover. It man puts his

7:51

hand the flint iraq and overturns mountains

7:53

by the roots. He cuts out channels

7:55

in the rock. his eye sees every

7:57

precious thing he dams up the stream.

8:00

The that they do not trickle and the

8:02

thing that is hidden he brings out to

8:04

light. But

8:06

where? Shall wisdom be found? And

8:09

where's the place of understanding? To

8:11

get you got to to the rich are

8:13

getting into the first. it does the twelfth

8:15

verse before you forget what those first lead

8:18

vs or about. All

8:20

this is a in in various ways

8:22

some of which are understandable, some which

8:24

are are a bit ambiguous but describing

8:26

you know this is what this is

8:28

what people do this is what the

8:30

ancient people dead and course what people

8:32

still do it when modern techniques to

8:34

his precious metals we have all four

8:36

of them were for the mention in

8:38

this opening these opening to vs Silver

8:41

Gold. Iron. And. And

8:43

copper. So.

8:45

Are we have these the these precious

8:47

metals being mined out of the earth

8:49

and then of course the point when

8:51

you get to the to verse is.

8:54

Well. That's all. great. But.

8:56

Where do you mind for wisdom? Where.

8:58

Do you dig for understanding?

9:02

The. I mean that yeah, that's the whole the

9:04

whole thing here. Is that? Yeah, I think

9:06

about this time period. What are some of

9:08

the most impressive things that man is able

9:10

to do? We. Take a lot things

9:12

around it as we don't see how and

9:14

like any of the sausage. Dismayed but lazy

9:17

like you go to the gas pump in

9:19

usually pompous gas. Know my car and you

9:21

don't think about they. what kind of insane.

9:24

Process. Has happened. right?

9:26

And get from a to be yeah I mean

9:28

like what it like what's going on here like

9:30

a some a poll like. Oil.

9:32

As the ground and night

9:34

and you've you've made gasoline

9:37

out of light dinosaur. Hit

9:39

us bodies or whatever and it it's

9:42

a it's a crazy thing. Ah, now

9:44

we're like all kinds of. Technology

9:46

for refining and others kind of stuff.

9:49

But. If you think about at

9:51

this time at what is like some

9:53

as I did the most impressive of

9:55

a survey even to me crazy to

9:58

think about. Okay so you're there. Mine

10:00

for silverlight. I get that sees

10:02

someone discovered it. Here.

10:04

In this whole underground you can take a

10:07

chisel and there's a these silver and heresy

10:09

can get out same a goal that I

10:11

you can. Find. Veins of

10:13

gold. Get it out. you can refine it.

10:16

But. It is. I've been iron taken as

10:18

a earth as wild that like how

10:20

early evaluate they were able to figure

10:22

this out and they they could make

10:24

stuff out of it you know and

10:26

they could get copper out of or

10:28

so. This is all stuff. Are you

10:30

okay yet? The. You.

10:33

Know that you we We know this stuff exists and

10:35

there's like a way to find it and then I

10:37

who way to use it. And

10:40

these are all extremely impressive things. and was

10:42

I didn't. we can do here. We can.

10:44

We do all this stuff like we

10:46

have this. pretty impressive but the one

10:48

thing you can find even though you

10:51

can find all these other things which

10:53

are very difficult. To find very

10:55

difficult to do anything with. You.

10:57

Be I've about wisdom and will

10:59

surely that's fine. but now that

11:01

the more difficult. Yeah.

11:04

You Have to serve. This. Contrasts has

11:07

set up. In. Other these

11:09

these amazing discoveries that. Humanity

11:12

has been engaged in the you're you're like a

11:14

so you're digging and you find all these things.

11:17

So. You were the. With humanity being

11:19

able to to do. What

11:22

is described here and and we get a course

11:24

just. Fast. Forward to war.

11:26

Able to the today with science with

11:28

medical medical technology was space traveling minutes.

11:30

On and on and on. It's kind

11:32

of the Tower of Babel replayed over

11:34

and over Nord history. You know what?

11:36

what are they going to do next?

11:38

What are they gonna build next? Would

11:40

lean and scupper next. I

11:43

know all this is going on. You

11:45

really have that! The greatest treasure of all. Ah,

11:49

And the question is you know where you can

11:51

find it was must worse. For

11:54

you and I eat it here. the argument is a

11:56

movie made this argument day. It was all the things

11:58

we can do. Now. We must

12:00

be wise. A. Damn sure that I

12:02

look at where we can do little bit of the things

12:04

we're pulling out the earth and in the how we use

12:06

them and the things we create with him. Oh

12:09

are wisdom is great They surely we

12:11

have found wisdom and answers Know any

12:13

not as goes I will weaken we

12:16

can do all kinds of insane things

12:18

of in he just had medical advances

12:20

notice that and then you also look

12:22

around your life. Is

12:25

anybody every wisdom? Because like I mean

12:27

I we can do a lot and

12:29

and since I've we are lot of

12:32

a smart people doing a lot of

12:34

smart things. But. Even

12:36

in our day and age you like do

12:38

they like wisdom is in large supply? Is

12:40

that where we need to say have all

12:43

kinds of wise people walking around? Ah think

12:45

so. No no Well

12:47

and I it's funny with this

12:49

comes up or this is on

12:51

plan on This was writing about

12:53

this morning. something connection with proverbs

12:55

about it is ironic right? Because

12:57

we have. We. Have

12:59

today! What? Know generation,

13:02

Human history, As ever

13:04

had. I mean, they wouldn't even able to

13:06

dream of what I came on. Hold myself

13:08

on a Mahindra hear what I can, the

13:10

kind of information. That. I can

13:12

access with someone. It would have been a dreamt

13:14

of. In any previous, owners

13:16

get to have all the this you

13:19

know information Weekend We can read whatever

13:21

we want to. We can tap into

13:23

these great intellects. Dismiss the touch of

13:25

a button, But.

13:29

That. Does not. Mean.

13:31

That we have ceased to be. Still,

13:34

The same flawed people that we are. So.

13:37

Me: All of this out of this

13:39

is not going to alter our fundamental

13:41

humanity. I'd known in our a lower

13:43

apologists or friend is all it would

13:45

describe it and then so mean. Hand

13:48

in hand with the access to

13:50

all this information in our current

13:52

mining techniques. To use that metaphor.

13:56

Or is he goes is also the

13:58

ability to transform that into. Even

14:00

greater evil, every discovery is used in positive

14:02

or negative ways. In that respect, Well I'm

14:04

A I think if you went back if

14:06

you took your cellphone Chad and you went

14:09

back to nineteen hundred. And

14:11

you showed it to them. Look at

14:13

all the things, all the knowledge, I

14:16

could access. Of

14:18

course David first saw you get burned

14:20

at the stake or something for for

14:22

having like witchcraft in your hand that

14:24

as apps Ivs assuming you touch your

14:26

way out of. That's one thing as

14:28

yes someone might assume as a man.

14:31

So. In the future. And.

14:34

Everyone with all of with this or not

14:36

he says abilities you have to all of

14:38

this wisdom. That all this

14:41

ancient wisdom of any to go use as

14:43

India's access. The words of Plato and. All.

14:45

These days anytime you want surely I

14:48

can. You must belong, exit give us

14:50

be Just everyone must be. Exercising

14:53

extreme amounts of wisdom I mean as

14:55

everyone does become wise a new and

14:57

and of course year with the his

14:59

living in his essay i ah I

15:01

don't have it's her I don't know

15:03

if it's really made any one wise

15:05

I don't love I was I know

15:07

I'll put it that way, it fast

15:09

is might have done the opposite way.

15:11

Other oh think that we've increased and

15:14

wisdom. Yeah. Yeah,

15:16

he's just a move aside. Any more,

15:18

that's all. that's all. That

15:21

kind of is the it. It's one

15:23

of the points of of not only

15:26

the sex object when you but the

15:28

what is the com as well means

15:30

of humanity is always had access to

15:32

at least a limited things of good.

15:34

You know whether that's intelligence, whether that's.

15:37

Things. That are. Of of value,

15:39

whatever might be, but. That

15:42

which has always been available to

15:44

to humanity. Has also been

15:46

that which humanity makes a limited

15:48

use of and or sadness and

15:50

his wisdom. I do

15:53

want to but I at this is kind

15:55

of a a factual interesting detail that the

15:57

some sort listers might. Might. Been

15:59

interesting. Did the verse three. says.

16:02

When a talking about. The mining. Man.

16:05

Puts in into darkness searches out to

16:07

the far this limit the or and

16:09

gloom a deep darkness. I was just

16:11

thinking. At. How did

16:14

that work? Practically speaking. Three: you

16:16

don't have like floodlights and. And

16:19

things of that nature So a little

16:21

digging is a get this is Imagine

16:23

this is a written by die Doors

16:25

of Sicily in Greek his story live

16:27

in the first century Bc describing gold

16:30

mining in New Bf. And

16:32

he says these, these guys, they work

16:34

in darkness. And they're like

16:36

bending and whining to the passages.

16:38

And he says they carry lamps

16:40

bound on their foreheads. So.

16:42

They can work their way through this. Now.

16:45

These lamps would have been oil lamps. There.

16:47

Were no have not answered this picture

16:49

That and you had to get oil

16:52

and bound to your forehead. And.

16:54

Somehow this is getting light as you work

16:56

your way through these mine shafts. It does.

16:58

It certainly makes you appreciate a lot more

17:00

camera modern techniques of finding live in the

17:02

midst of a the darkness. Yeah that although

17:04

I say I and they they found a

17:06

way to do this and even easier world.

17:08

Yeah that. That's. Extremely

17:10

dangerous. That

17:13

not recommended This Do not try this review

17:15

like turn your his own yells your name

17:17

and you turn your head and I your

17:19

as narrow passage and you smashed that thing

17:21

and in that oils it's all over your

17:23

face and my own year in deep trouble

17:25

year the ask you about your about to

17:27

be a lot older do be a lot

17:30

of light. Of. That modi hoping

17:32

for us of medical advances. That boy.

17:35

And then you know he. and and at what was

17:38

the other line in here talks about the. They

17:40

are. They are. They burst for they

17:42

hang in the air far away for

17:45

mankind, slinging to and fro So they're

17:47

let these guys down, these baskets and

17:49

these ropes and their chiseling away. This

17:51

is pretty. It's amazing anyway. What?

17:54

Does they were able to do. And. Then

17:57

yet. We're. Supposed to be found. We

18:00

begun to mind for for understanding that's

18:02

a question supposed. To

18:04

cavers Thirteen is going to continue this. From

18:07

a different direction though. Man

18:09

of not know it's worth. That. His

18:11

wisdom and understandings worth. Man doesn't know it's

18:13

worth and it is not found in the

18:15

land of living. A

18:17

deep says snotty me. The

18:20

see says. It's. Not with me. He.

18:22

Can't be bought for gold. And silver

18:25

cannot be weighed as it's pricey,

18:27

cannot be valued in the gold

18:29

of of fear in the precious

18:31

onyx or sapphire. Gold and glass

18:33

cannot equal it, nor can it

18:35

be exchanged for jewels of find

18:37

gold. No mention shall be made

18:39

of coral or crystal. The price

18:41

of wisdom is above pearls. The

18:43

Topaz of Ethiopia cannot equal it,

18:45

nor can it be valued and

18:48

pure gold. And then

18:50

the refrain comes again. From. Where

18:52

the and with some com. And. Where

18:54

is the place of understanding? So.

18:57

I made a kind of Canadians are the

18:59

same vein of this this stuff of value.

19:02

We talked about gold, silver and an. Operator

19:05

and and iron earlier but now

19:07

it's bringing in all these are

19:09

you know the gold of or

19:11

fear and Onyx and Sapphire and

19:13

Topaz of Ethiopian. everything else of

19:15

great worth. Is. Nothing.

19:18

Compared to Wisdom and nor can

19:21

it be purchased by means of

19:23

these precious metals. Of these is

19:25

precious stones. And the

19:28

deep and the see say well if

19:30

we don't have it. It's

19:32

not. It's not enough. sort of it is. It.

19:34

It's a long poetic. Detail:

19:38

reflection upon. Not.

19:40

Only the the value of wisdom but

19:43

also the the limited place in which

19:45

it can be and which you can

19:47

be found. Yeah, we're I

19:49

mean it's is the idea here is a guy

19:51

okay if you can't. Find

19:53

it right? So I got where shall

19:56

be found and yeah I guess everyone

19:58

is It can be mine. Or it

20:00

can. we seek it out. Can is maybe

20:02

it's in the deep. Maybe it's a his

20:05

his his his. If you go to the

20:07

deaths of the ocean, find it now. Okay,

20:09

we'll have. He can't find it. Maybe

20:11

you can buy it? And

20:15

the answer that is no, no

20:17

you cannot So you go for

20:20

like we seek.we sought all of

20:22

these are able to find all

20:24

these precious things. So. Can

20:26

we do that? Wisdom Know will they.

20:28

We can take these precious things and

20:31

go purchase wisdom. Nancy Reagan is now.

20:35

It's. It's. Very, very disappointing. They

20:37

say this. Man

20:40

as as a hard to get.

20:42

Me to can't find a the he can't buy or

20:45

the how the worry are you going to be com

20:47

boom become was. And then

20:49

of. The causing section which is

20:51

versa twenty three days when he three

20:53

to twenty eight is going to lead

20:55

us to to the answer. God

20:58

understands the way to it. So.

21:01

Have a play on words. Or by

21:04

the way because we have whereas the

21:06

place of of understanding which is in

21:08

Hebrew years be now and then. This

21:10

is the verbal form of that. So

21:13

God been. So God understands the way

21:15

to it. And he knows

21:17

his place. For. He looks to

21:19

the ends of the earth and sees everything under

21:21

the happens. When. He gave to

21:24

the wind it's weight in a portion the waters

21:26

by measure. When. You made a

21:28

decree for the rain and away for the lightning of

21:30

the thunder. Then. He saw

21:32

it and declared it. He established

21:34

it and searched it out. And.

21:37

He said to man, now this is Harry

21:39

Go. This is the whole chapters been leading

21:41

to this to this moment. He

21:44

said man. Behold.

21:48

The. Fear of The Lord. Bad.

21:50

As wisdom. And. The turn Away

21:52

from evil. Is. understanding. Yeah,

21:56

now see there's there's There's one

21:58

line in here. I.

22:01

Love like but we'll get to

22:03

it so go ahead. Okay, Now.

22:08

That there is a part of me that the

22:10

gets the very end of this and it's like.

22:13

That it. Exists

22:16

or white This whole chapter has been

22:18

like teasing us in our yeah we

22:20

can't dig for you can't find it,

22:22

you can't you can't buy or I'm

22:24

in it or any kind of sets

22:26

a almost feel like it's teasing us

22:28

like it's setting us up for it's

22:30

gonna drop. The wisdom

22:32

that is going to drop on us is

22:34

something that you could never have anticipated. I'm

22:36

just gonna be one is mind blowing. Awesome!

22:40

Moments where something is going to be disclosed to

22:42

you that you'd never could have seen coming. A

22:45

bit to get to the end and dislike. Or.

22:47

At Com Plus. No. No a la

22:49

Libert closer I'm an amateur whisper the see, this is

22:52

wisdom. The. Fear of The Lord.

22:54

And. The turn away from understanding from evil.

22:57

that is understand. Yeah. Are

23:00

you so it's a but that that is. That's

23:02

the beauty of it though. It

23:05

the it's not. Complicated.

23:08

And. It is a in it is accessible.

23:11

As soon as you begin to

23:13

understand that it's accessibility is found

23:16

only in the God who gives.

23:18

And. Then who who speaks this was done to

23:20

us at the lab. The line: I don't know

23:22

what you're gonna talk about, but I might let

23:25

me say one of my favorite lives in here.

23:27

Beginning Verse Twenty Eight. And

23:29

he said to mad. Behold.

23:32

The furthermore that is was in other

23:34

words, God speaks. He

23:36

discloses this it's not something which we

23:39

kind of figure out on her own

23:41

brothers given to us. Verbally

23:43

it's given to us by God

23:45

speaking his word. That's. Ultimately,

23:47

How we know what was miss

23:49

Turns out legit. What will I

23:51

live out our of go there

23:54

and secretary to that line. turns

23:56

out that that wisdom is found.

23:58

A very simple thing. But.

24:00

Also like the last thing that you ever wanna

24:02

do. Yeah. Right? You

24:05

like analysts they serve as a fear

24:07

of god is in of this is

24:09

due to worship God right? This is

24:11

the to hold God as god. This

24:13

is are you fear of the lord?

24:15

That's wisdom. Turn away from evil. That's

24:17

understanding right? Okay, those are the two

24:19

things I don't wanna do at all.

24:21

Not at all. I don't want God

24:23

to be god because I want to

24:25

be God. And

24:27

I don't want to turn around, turn away

24:29

from evil Cause I am and fat evil.

24:31

So that's exactly what I want to do

24:33

A d. So it's

24:36

very simple, but you're also like, oh no, not

24:38

that dumb mbt that can I buy it? What

24:40

if I mind the earth of all as rich

24:42

as I could give you that in exchange? Just

24:44

don't make me do this. Now.

24:47

It's yeah, support the very last thing the way

24:49

that we want. I mean, it's it's it. You

24:51

can get to see both, he says. I

24:55

mean there's in summary form of.

24:58

The horizontal and vertical. Connections.

25:00

That we have so to fear the Lord

25:03

is to stand. Like you said in. A

25:05

To worship Him Stand on him to

25:07

fear the fear the Lord is Lou

25:09

talked about many times in the podcast

25:11

is an all encompassing phrase for everything

25:13

from trust to love to our to

25:15

worship to with the old Testament way

25:17

of. Saying. That

25:20

you are in the right place

25:22

with with got. To. Fear

25:24

the board and then of course more horizontally

25:26

turn away from evil. That can be understood

25:29

also. Vertically but mainly you

25:31

turn away from the evil that you're going

25:33

to do to to others. So know where

25:35

Toledo a pure and a loving and a

25:37

righteous interact his life a bigger. That's.

25:40

A That's wisdom. That's understanding. Yeah.

25:43

I mean at at the line here and so.

25:46

Have you know about wisdom? literature? And

25:50

now we haven't got into a bunch of was

25:52

a miniature but if you know about was in

25:54

literature of course add. Wisdom.

25:57

Personified. Is. Jesus.

26:01

Rates are like when you when you get to

26:03

the wisdom miniature a toss about wisdom as a

26:05

person. Is. That is Not just like an.

26:08

And knowing something or anything like

26:10

that so wisdom is is a

26:13

person. And.

26:15

And admit, I was it as true. hear that

26:17

loop. The fear

26:19

Lord does wisdom but the the fear of the

26:21

Lord is also due. To. Know Christ

26:24

to note to know what who got

26:26

his and and what he's done. So

26:29

when you think about wisdom personified

26:31

as a person and that person

26:33

being Jesus Christ, you have this

26:35

amazing thing where. In

26:38

Verse twenty two were. Added

26:40

on and death. So this to like The. Hell

26:43

are the grave and death itself.

26:45

or said at the Grave and

26:47

death itself. They say

26:50

this. We. Have heard

26:52

a rumor of it with our ears.

26:56

Like. Dot language is amazing they

26:58

so they yet to think about.

27:01

Death. And the grave. And.

27:04

Your and I see how wisdom and whether they

27:06

say. They. Say oh, we've heard of a

27:08

rumor of this. Of this person

27:10

named Wisdom, we've heard a rumor of

27:12

it. or what? What would this rumor

27:14

be? That he's the end of you?

27:17

right? Of it's a date Dave.

27:19

There's a there's whisperings and

27:21

rumors and ah and there's

27:23

a. There's something

27:26

floating around a death in the grave.

27:28

Have heard about this. Wisdom is not

27:30

good news for them either as say

27:32

it's bad. Very bad news is not.

27:34

It's not gospel for them but the

27:36

dirty other at news to live alone.

27:38

and as an interesting thing for them,

27:40

throw either I wasn't. What is that

27:43

why Das Grades have anything to say

27:45

about this? They're either we've heard about

27:47

it, Yeah, I'll

27:49

that is a that is it. The Great

27:51

Minds fact I think actually. Forgot.

27:54

To read that when I was reading the

27:56

the vs that the follow follow twenty. but

27:58

yeah I'm in. At. The. The

28:00

perfect line to draw from. Job.

28:02

Twenty eight all the way to to the

28:05

Resurrection. Yeah. You've. You've.

28:07

Heard about this rumor. Or in the

28:09

meta. it's not just a rumor. It's. It's

28:11

true. It's coming here. days are numbered,

28:13

and there will come a day when

28:15

death is buried in the grave. His.

28:18

Habits. Has his own funeral home and

28:20

will cry. Steps sets forth. Get wisdom incarnate

28:22

steps for yeah I mean it is great

28:24

because it's it. Before that you a heads

28:27

hidden from the eyes of all living. It's

28:29

concealed from the birds there. They know it

28:31

know could find us. As

28:33

a but there's like this sort of

28:35

prosthetic. Utterance. That.

28:38

Death knows about. right?

28:40

And that's the rumor, right? Is this

28:43

is as prophetic. Word.

28:46

That comes from god new like oh. They.

28:49

gets is floating around out there. Was.

28:52

A deal with that law of that Paul

28:54

Things hidden for the foundation of the world

28:57

Via you know that that that idea how

28:59

made it's it's been there. It's hidden. but

29:01

it's also there's there's in a. Good.

29:03

Luck eating something a secret. Word.

29:05

Gets out. You know it's it's

29:07

it's filtering all the way down into orbit.

29:09

Own and and death. The Grave. A

29:12

But the word on the street is that the end

29:14

is coming for them. And. Factor:

29:16

That's exactly what happens when Christ as forth

29:18

from the grave. And.

29:21

The rumor is proven to be. Factual

29:24

for an ad on us how

29:26

the gospel oh works a lot

29:28

a socially in the gospels so

29:31

like when wisdom is walking the

29:33

earth. tried selling when that happening

29:35

in the person of Jesus when

29:37

these walk on earth. how many

29:40

people. Seek

29:42

Jesus out based on I really

29:44

do this and no one's eyes

29:47

sharing a video or something like

29:49

there's people seeking this guy out

29:52

based on a rumor. Is

29:54

hearsay. It is here all over the

29:56

place, all everywhere. They're just like. I.

29:59

They are. Why are they doing this?

30:01

Because they heard some what they someone

30:03

told them something where I could is

30:05

a true I mean lepers are coming

30:07

you know Blind people are coming within

30:09

with. Dead. Children are com it like

30:11

all these and they're all of a it's I

30:14

got a. Of this whispering

30:16

going around like we had heard the even

30:18

like the Road to amaze like the a

30:20

We heard that he oh this in this

30:22

and this and we thought this and this

30:25

is all this sort of like language of

30:27

like there's. This. Rumor

30:29

going around that this might

30:31

be the guy. And

30:33

people are I. Seeking.

30:35

It out right. And so I think

30:37

that that rumor language that works well

30:39

with. With. Color.

30:42

How it does actually play out for.

30:44

For. The grave and death the

30:46

early This this rumor is going to be the

30:48

end of youth is it is. It is getting

30:50

passed around. Here.

30:53

I love it the other two at the great Connection

30:55

to make. Room. This whole chapter

30:58

all the way to. When. Wisdom comes

31:00

and walks, walks among us. So.

31:03

At their the mean that's that's job twenty eighth.

31:05

It's all about. The. Search

31:07

for Wisdom The place of understanding

31:09

and the eventually wisdom is actually

31:11

does is a show up. But.

31:14

Is born incarnate. And

31:16

the. Comes. To introduce

31:18

us to not does to himself the

31:20

dow he is the he's entered point

31:22

to the sphere the lord and turning

31:24

away from evil and receiving that understanding

31:26

I say I wonder if this a

31:28

break in here to is if you're

31:30

just reading this and love your ears

31:33

are starting to get exhausted As you

31:35

as you listening to this discourse and

31:37

you start to wonder like Vitesse I

31:39

missing it. Because.

31:41

This is all very like. Poetic. Language

31:44

in and yeah, man, Exists

31:46

really wise and I'm just not see

31:48

in it because I guess all started

31:51

to sound the same as all certain

31:53

run together and maybe I'm just not

31:55

wise enough to. Extract

31:58

Will I need to extract? Listen,

32:00

I did he have his break. Any are just

32:02

as not. I really. Like not

32:04

none of this is like really does it is

32:06

get some guys talking and not that we we

32:09

spend more time talking about it. There's lots of

32:11

trees and stuff in there, but ah. Like.

32:13

This isn't. Wisdom.

32:17

I. This is. People having an

32:19

argument for how did you have. Like

32:22

the your the the author the play. On.

32:25

Removes. All the actors in the stage and

32:27

he walks out says hey everybody a. Skinny.

32:30

A minute let me tell you what

32:32

is really all about. There's a lot

32:34

of dialogue here. There's a lot of

32:36

actions as lot of plots and subplots.

32:39

Believe me, focus your attention on what

32:41

really matters and we're all of this

32:43

is is leading. Yeah, because it ends

32:45

literary literally like the a desert. because

32:48

it definitely seems like Job's friends. Are.

32:51

What they call wise in their own

32:53

eyes, right? I mean, they certainly think

32:55

they're dropping all kinds of wisdom. But

32:59

this breaks lawyer to tell you explicitly

33:02

that they're not. Yeah,

33:06

there are there. Definitely was their own

33:08

eyes and probably were highly esteemed. Is

33:10

wise by by others and mean they,

33:12

They clearly can. They're They're clearly rhetorically

33:15

skilled. They can talk. I. Mean they

33:17

could talk a good game that can talk in this. I

33:19

flew in poetry but the enter

33:21

the wise. Them.

33:24

God himself will say that at the end they

33:26

have not spoken to me what was right. They.

33:29

Have acted according to folly so in

33:31

fact they can sound wise. They can

33:33

even say some wise things but that

33:35

doesn't make them. Was in the and

33:38

they end up his fools. The

33:40

job as to. Pray

33:43

for the North Coffee Mayor

33:45

may forgive them. Okay,

33:48

So or that you're twenty eight. Now.

33:51

We. Have a. Job.

33:54

Done little a double remembering

33:56

here. So. Job Thirty Twenty

33:58

Nine And thirty are. The

34:00

To. To be read together

34:02

when I had time to get course cut

34:04

to both of those today. But if you

34:07

if you have and be reading along with

34:09

us in Job they don't read Job Twenty

34:11

Nine without reading Job Thirty. And don't read

34:13

Job Thirty About reading Job Twenty Nine Because

34:16

what's gonna happen in this Who chapters is

34:18

basically Job is gonna First all began by

34:20

engaging a low reminiscing about the better days,

34:22

the good old days when not just you

34:24

know his life was so much better than

34:27

is now. But he was able to. He

34:30

was able to to be in

34:32

his family and in his community

34:34

basically a compassionate patron of people

34:37

who were in need as well

34:39

as a defender of of justice.

34:42

So. Is going to recollect those days in

34:44

chapter twenty nine and then they'll be

34:46

a heartbreak. And chapter thirty

34:48

which begins. But now and you can

34:50

imagine what that's going to sound like.

34:53

This is what it was like. But

34:55

now look at me and is not

34:57

going to just simply talk about his

34:59

losses. And the pain.

35:01

The physical pain that he's

35:03

enduring, but also just the

35:05

public. Shaming. And

35:08

ridiculing. That is heat

35:10

heaped upon him. So.

35:12

That's what you have. And twenty nine And

35:14

thirty. Three. Years I search up. And.

35:18

You'll begin Took up as discourse and

35:20

said. Oh. That

35:22

I were as in the months of old. By.

35:25

The way that that seems to indicate. That.

35:27

What he's been going through has

35:29

been at least a few months

35:31

in duration. So. Oh

35:34

that I were. As in the multiple as

35:36

in the days when God watched over me.

35:38

When. His lap shown upon my head and

35:40

by his light I walked through darkness. I.

35:44

As I was in my prime think

35:46

the Hebrew there is literally yeah he

35:48

but are like. I

35:51

was in Maya rightness. Some people translate

35:53

my my autumn days but in crime

35:55

is a good way for us to.

35:58

To to put into modern English. When.

36:00

I was in my prime when the friendship

36:02

of God was upon my tent, when the

36:04

Almighty was yet with me, when my children.

36:07

Were. All around me. When.

36:09

My Steps and here's your here's

36:11

your hyperbole. The My Steps for

36:13

wash with butter and a rock

36:15

poured out for me. Streams of

36:17

oil, You. Are.

36:20

Always say when I checked bags

36:22

in buckets of wine and remain

36:24

in or whatever lavish language you

36:26

want either. So. That

36:28

was gonna way starts out he says I like when

36:31

I went out to the gate of the city when

36:33

I prepared my seat in the square. What

36:35

Happened? Overseas and

36:37

the young men saw the an

36:39

agent rose and stood The prince's

36:41

refrained from talking, laid their hand

36:44

on their mouth, The. Voice of

36:46

the nobles was hushed. Their tongues sucked in the room

36:48

for their mouth. When. The ear heard of

36:50

it. He. Called me last.

36:53

When. The I saw it, it approved. Because.

36:56

And if here, he finally actually gets the point of saying

36:58

some of the things he did. Because.

37:01

I delivered the poor. A. Cry for help.

37:04

And. The Favelas. Who. Had none.

37:06

To. Help him. The. Blessing of

37:08

him who was about the parish. Him

37:11

upon me. And. I caused the

37:13

widows heart. To. Sing for

37:15

Joy! Nice. Going to go

37:17

on at just the first thirteen vs.

37:19

but you get a feel for what

37:21

he's describing. a reversal, he just gonna

37:24

reflecting back. You know in a hyperbolic,

37:26

poetic sort of way about the better

37:28

days when the lamp of God shown

37:30

upon his head and kind of picture.

37:32

you know god's walk along with this

37:34

light shining above him. and he's in

37:36

his prime God? He's obviously gods friend,

37:38

gods with him. His children are all

37:41

great, his steps are washed with butter,

37:43

and the rock pours out streams of

37:45

oil on. And make them

37:47

when he he only gets to the gate

37:49

of the city and course the get a

37:51

city bus were all the commerce and and

37:53

and in business transactions in and judicial decisions

37:55

all of those it's kind of the city

37:57

square you might think of the gave it.

38:00

The world is happened. Everybody

38:02

sees job coming Election. We're.

38:05

Talking rise. You're

38:07

if you're not very young. News if you're young,

38:09

can get out of the way and. And

38:12

everyone has the deepest respect

38:14

for her job. When. He

38:17

speaks, they listen. When he acts they notice

38:19

in. This. Adult males like

38:21

this is a job. Bragging.

38:23

At the this is job thinking back. To.

38:27

Who. He was. And.

38:29

What he was able to do as

38:32

one who feared the Lord and turned

38:34

away from evil. When he

38:36

was a wise man was able

38:38

to practices or this was done.

38:40

This is the way things have

38:42

any. It's more just reminiscing on

38:44

a time when. And.

38:47

Job with somebody Now he's nobody.

38:50

Ah, and. I

38:53

mean to imply a part of this

38:55

argument in this reminiscing is that when

38:57

he was a somebody, he used that.

39:00

Station. For. Rights.

39:03

It out are lots of people who are some buddies

39:05

that. Don't. Do that. At

39:08

a very long discourses so far

39:10

about people who are some buddies

39:12

and and they are wicked I

39:14

are they had they are power

39:17

hungry in a day. Use these

39:19

things for evil at but Joe

39:21

Joe here assayed of cows really.

39:24

As really somebody and. I.

39:27

Used. My

39:29

position and my wealth than

39:31

my status. Forget.

39:34

I used it to to help other people which is worse.

39:37

Fit. Right into his argument of. So.

39:40

If it's God does doing this, what is

39:42

your seems like it is. I really don't

39:44

understand. Exactly

39:47

Yeah, And it also.

39:50

A serves to contradict what the of

39:52

each app. Years ago, L affairs in

39:54

a lot into this aggies string of

39:57

accusations against Job. San

39:59

Now. The sister he was. With

40:01

a breaking the arms of the orphaned

40:03

yeah no the arms of the father's

40:06

you cry, you sit widows away empty

40:08

it is making stuff up and jump

40:10

says. To the contrary, He

40:13

says a were were with as a beautiful

40:15

line. Here he says oh I caused the

40:17

widows heart to sing for joy. Or

40:20

it is a. It's. An

40:22

image of one. Who. Is

40:24

such a benefactor to those who are in

40:26

need. That. He

40:28

makes them sing for joy. Is

40:30

taking care of people. In other words, this

40:32

is it. His and ethics is as good

40:35

works displayed in and works torn to community

40:37

especially to those who are who are in

40:39

need. So you got more to say. But

40:41

anyway, that's the beginning of him recollecting back

40:43

on those better days when he was able

40:45

to be this generous patron to people who

40:48

were around him. Yeah and

40:50

that is it. Man we are added ties

40:52

were to leave it there. we were. will

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probably get the rest jealous words and twenty

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nine and thirty. Next

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week and then transition from

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there. Hopefully you will join

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us. Chat.

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