For the fourth episode of 400 Floor we talk to Cory Arcangel and Jacob Ciocci, two old friends and highly influential contemporary artists who took their interest in computers and the kitsch culture of their 1980s childhoods and forged successful careers in the art world, for Jacob particularly through his highly influential collective Paper Rad. In this sprawling interview we trace their histories from their high school years, to meeting each other in the VHS editing lab at Oberlin, through the beginnings of their art careers.

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