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1:50

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1:52

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the most dangerous and high profile criminals

4:57

in the world. Serial. Killers

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5:13

We will take you inside the Federal Bureau.

5:16

Of Prisons in agency in

5:18

crisis. A series of

5:20

government investigation has sound the bureau's

5:22

workforce is dangerously under staffed. And

5:25

inside, it's a women's prisons. There is

5:27

an alarming pattern of abuse. Collect.

5:29

Peters is in charge of fixing the

5:31

Bureau of Prisons. She's a six director.

5:34

In six years. This

5:38

is Alice still. A

5:41

low security. Women's Prison in rural

5:43

Alabama. Where more than fourteen hundred inmates

5:45

are serving time. People's Rights Has prisons

5:47

every never terrified of them? or they

5:49

don't think about them at all. right?

5:51

It's kind of like this forgotten zone.

5:54

I don't want people to forget about

5:56

this place. I want to let Peters

5:58

became Director of the Bureau of. in

6:00

August 2022. After

6:03

a 20-year career in corrections, she's built

6:05

a reputation as a reformer. I love your

6:07

poster. We are all stronger than we think,

6:09

aren't we? Before becoming

6:11

director, she was credited with shaping

6:14

Oregon's state prison system by

6:16

prioritizing staff mental health support and

6:18

advocating for the compassionate treatment of inmates.

6:21

I have this very early memory in kindergarten

6:24

where an individual came in with

6:26

a pocket knife and

6:29

was marched to the principal's office. And

6:31

I just remember in that moment saying, I want

6:34

to help him. Many people in your custody are

6:37

there because of horrific crimes. Why

6:40

do they deserve compassion? Because

6:42

95 percent of them are going to come back to

6:44

our community someday. And I

6:46

want them to be productive,

6:48

tax-paying citizens who no longer

6:51

commit crimes. But

6:53

the Bureau of Prisons is so inadequately

6:55

staffed, it is struggling to fulfill its

6:57

mission, rehabilitating inmates

6:59

and keeping its prisons safe. Government

7:03

watchdogs have documented disrepair in all

7:05

of its institutions, requiring

7:08

more than $2 billion in fixes. And

7:11

employees rank the Bureau of Prisons the

7:13

worst place to work in the federal government.

7:16

It's very rare for the media to be allowed

7:19

inside a federal prison. Why are we here?

7:21

I truly believe in transparency. Are

7:23

we perfect? No. Do

7:25

we have issues we need to resolve? Absolutely.

7:27

But I want people to see the good

7:29

stuff. We toured Aliceville

7:31

with Director Peters and saw

7:34

where inmates live, learn new trades

7:36

and work. On this day, sewing sleeping

7:39

bags for the military, a coveted

7:41

job because it pays $1.15 an hour. You

7:46

ladies are amazing. And when you

7:48

leave here, you're going to be

7:50

incredible. This ceremony is for inmates

7:52

graduating from a faith-based program, preparing

7:54

them for life on the outside.

7:57

By connecting them with community leaders. and

8:00

teaching them life skills like anger

8:02

management. But the reality is

8:04

nearly half of federal inmates will end

8:07

up back behind bars or arrested within

8:09

three years of getting out. A

8:12

lot of those faces in there who have so

8:14

much promise and hope today could end up right

8:16

back in here. Yeah, you know, I think we

8:18

have a lot of work to do to dial down

8:20

that recidivism rate. We have to send fewer

8:22

people to prison for shorter periods of time, and

8:24

then when they're here, do things

8:27

like that. You also have a major

8:29

staffing issue, and people can't get these

8:31

classes that they need. Staffing was

8:33

a problem before the pandemic, and

8:35

so those recruitment efforts and those

8:37

retention efforts have gotten hard. How

8:40

many correctional officers do you need on staff

8:42

to get you out of this staffing crisis?

8:45

So we hope to have that real

8:47

number for you

8:49

and the public very soon.

8:51

That seems like a critical number. How was that

8:53

not on your desk when you took this job

8:56

on day one and still not there a year

8:58

later? So the good news is this was a problem

9:00

the Bureau was trying to solve before I got here,

9:02

and we're in the process of solving it. Director

9:05

Peters says she expects to have the

9:07

number of officers needed by October, more

9:09

than two years after taking office. But

9:12

Shane Fawzi, the recently retired president

9:14

of the Federal Prison Employees Union, says he

9:17

knows what that number is now. We're

9:19

short about 8,000 positions nationwide.

9:22

How bad is it? It results in one of us

9:24

losing our lives. And

9:27

it's that bad. We

9:29

can't continue with this course. By

9:31

the union's count, the Bureau of Prisons

9:34

is down about 40% of the

9:36

correctional officers it needs. The

9:38

less supervision you have, the more

9:40

bad things happen. Misconduct increases,

9:43

violence increases. And

9:45

because there are not enough officers, the

9:47

Bureau relies on other prison staff to

9:49

step in. It's a

9:51

controversial practice called augmentation. Teachers,

9:55

nurses, doctors, food service

9:57

people, the people that maintain... facilities.

10:00

They're doing what now? They're

10:02

in a housing unit supervising offenders. Do

10:04

they have training in that? They

10:06

do, but I can

10:09

tell you I'm no better a plumber

10:11

than they are a correctional officer. I

10:13

can walk into a housing unit and

10:15

tell you something's right or something's wrong.

10:17

You develop that over years of experience.

10:19

Let's break this down. We are talking

10:21

about HVAC repairmen and accountants

10:24

who are now guarding inmates.

10:28

That doesn't sound safe. So it is. So

10:30

they have the exact same training as

10:32

the correctional officers. Now what I

10:34

will say is augmentation should only

10:36

be used in the short term.

10:38

We've used this now to solve

10:41

a long-term retention and recruitment problem

10:43

and that isn't right. On

10:45

this point the union and management

10:47

agree. Prison staff, like teachers and

10:49

doctors, need to be able to

10:51

do their jobs so that inmates

10:53

don't lose access to critical services

10:56

and programs. They're buzz phrases.

10:58

Everybody's a correctional officer first. That

11:00

sounds good on paper, but if you take

11:02

the teacher out of the classroom and nobody's

11:04

teaching the offender the skills to go back

11:06

out to society, we're

11:09

just back to warehousing people. While

11:11

we walked the halls of Aliceville, classrooms

11:13

were packed, but several inmates told us

11:16

that much of what we saw on

11:18

our tour was staged. Am I getting

11:20

a real look at what

11:22

life is like in here today? Absolutely

11:24

not. No, definitely not.

11:27

So death is very disrespectful dear.

11:29

Even though we made mistakes, when

11:32

we're out here we're not treated

11:34

with respect. Do you feel safe

11:36

here? Sometimes. Tell

11:39

me about staffing. There's short staff all the time.

11:42

There's times where you don't know if you're going

11:44

to be able to go outside because somebody didn't

11:46

come to work. And if you were to speak

11:48

up about some of these issues that you're telling

11:50

me about, what would happen? The

11:55

shoot, short for special housing unit,

11:57

is the jail inside a prison.

12:00

where inmates are segregated from the general

12:02

population and seldom let outside of their

12:04

cells. Make you nervous to

12:06

talk to me right now? Love it.

12:09

The director is coming today. What does

12:11

she need to know about Allisville? Fix

12:13

it. We need more education, more opportunity

12:15

to grow and rehabilitate, because we don't

12:17

have that year. I've talked to a

12:19

handful of inmates here today and they

12:21

say, you're getting a cleaned

12:23

up version of what life is really like.

12:25

I've been doing this work for a long time, so

12:28

I can see when things have been swept

12:30

under the rug, if you will, I'm not naive.

12:32

And when anybody comes to your house, you clean

12:35

it up. Of all the

12:37

issues plaguing the Bureau of Prisons, perhaps

12:39

none is more disturbing than the rampant

12:41

sexual abuse of female inmates by the

12:44

male officers who are supposed to protect

12:46

them. Women are housed in

12:48

nearly a quarter of federal prisons and

12:51

a 2022 Senate investigation found

12:53

that bureau staff have sexually abused

12:55

female prisoners in at least

12:57

two thirds of those facilities over

12:59

the past decade. Allisville

13:01

is no exception. Three

13:04

officers have been convicted of sexual

13:06

abuse since 2020, including one

13:08

who pleaded guilty earlier this month.

13:11

Those are just the cases that we know

13:13

about. How does this keep happening? You

13:15

can't predict human behavior, but what I

13:17

can tell you is the things that

13:19

we're putting in place to manage to

13:22

that misconduct, I think are the right

13:24

things and sending a clear message that

13:26

this type of behavior is egregious, horrendous,

13:28

and unexcusable. But female inmates

13:30

at a women's prison in Northern

13:32

California accuse Director Peters and the

13:34

Bureau of Prisons of failing to protect

13:36

them. Its official name

13:39

is Federal Correctional Institution Dublin,

13:41

but it's known by inmates and staff as

13:43

the Rape Club. Seven

13:45

Dublin officers, including the warden

13:48

and the chaplain, have been convicted

13:50

of sexually abusing nearly two dozen

13:52

inmates from 2018 to 2021. And

13:56

this past August, eight inmates filed

13:58

suit claiming sexual abuse. abuse continues

14:00

to this day. These

14:03

are mothers, their

14:05

daughters, their sisters. Tess

14:07

Korth worked as a correctional officer at Dublin

14:09

for 25 years. She

14:12

resigned in 2022 after she says

14:14

she was retaliated against for whistle

14:16

blowing. They train us in the

14:18

red flags to look for. And

14:20

then when we report, hey, every

14:23

red flag this guy meets, you need to go deal

14:25

with this. They don't do anything. What

14:28

was the chaplain doing that made you suspicious?

14:30

One time I came in on a weekend,

14:32

he didn't know I was there. His

14:35

office was dark and he had an inmate in

14:37

there with him. And

14:39

I don't know what they were doing. That's

14:41

a red flag. Oh, definitely.

14:44

Former officer Korth says she reported

14:46

the chaplain and other officers who

14:48

she suspected of sexually abusing inmates

14:51

to an internal affairs investigator but

14:53

was ignored for years until

14:55

federal investigators stepped in. What happened

14:57

to the officers that you accused?

15:00

Most of them have been or in

15:03

the process of being convicted and

15:06

a lot of them are named

15:08

in lawsuits right now. How does that

15:10

make you feel? Good. The

15:13

Bureau of Prisons has a backlog of nearly 8,000

15:16

open misconduct investigations,

15:19

hundreds of which contain allegations of

15:21

sexual abuse. Director Peters hired

15:23

more staff to tackle the backlog,

15:26

but she says it will take two years

15:28

to clear those cases. In

15:30

response to the Dublin lawsuit, Bureau

15:32

of Prisons lawyers say inmates' claims

15:34

have been investigated and that no

15:36

threat remains. We've done a

15:38

tremendous job in the last

15:41

year rebuilding that culture and

15:43

creating a institution that

15:45

is more safe where individuals

15:47

feel comfortable coming forward and

15:50

reporting claims. You just used the

15:52

phrase, tremendous job in Dublin.

15:55

Eight inmates have filed a class

15:57

action lawsuit and they've got testimony

15:59

from the court. from more than 40 current

16:01

and former Dublin inmates who say

16:03

that the abuse is ongoing. That means the

16:06

process is working, that they have the ability

16:08

to come forward, they have the right to

16:10

bring that class action lawsuit together. These Dublin

16:12

inmates say that they're facing retaliation for

16:15

speaking out. I have been very clear

16:17

that retaliation will not be stood on

16:19

my watch. And so when allegations of

16:21

retaliation come forward, they are investigated, and

16:24

we will hold those people accountable. It's

16:26

one thing for you to say that

16:28

retaliation is not tolerated, but it sounds

16:30

like it's actually still happening. Again, I

16:32

would say those are allegations. I

16:35

would like to be more grounded in fact

16:37

around proven retaliation.

16:40

The fact is that an additional 19 staff

16:43

members have been accused of abusing inmates.

16:46

The bureau says those staff members have

16:48

been put on leave, new management has

16:50

been brought in, and there are now

16:52

working security cameras in areas where

16:54

inmates were abused. What are these

16:56

victims owed? To

17:02

have individuals who are in our

17:04

care, who rely on us

17:06

for their safety and security,

17:08

and to have that be violated. I

17:10

don't know that you can bring anything

17:13

that would undo that wrong. What about

17:16

an apology? The victims in Dublin say

17:18

they've never received an apology. Well,

17:21

I will tell you that it

17:24

is our mission to keep them safe. That

17:26

is our job. Is your job to apologize for

17:28

what happened in Dublin? I don't know

17:30

that my job is to apologize. Is

17:32

it heartbreaking and horrendous to have something

17:34

like that happen when you

17:36

are proud of your profession as a

17:38

corrections professional? Absolutely. In

17:42

addition to the lawsuit filed this past August,

17:44

more than 45 current

17:46

and former Dublin inmates have filed

17:49

lawsuits alleging sexual abuse by Bureau

17:51

of Prison staff. S

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you're a fan of crime novels and

19:00

movies, you've probably heard of Interpol. The

19:03

international police organization was started 100 years

19:06

ago when 20 countries, including the

19:08

U.S., came together to

19:11

fight international crime. Today, it

19:13

has 196 members connecting the New York

19:17

Police Department, Scotland Yard, police

19:19

in Moscow, Mumbai, Manila. But

19:22

for all its good work, Interpol has

19:24

been accused of doing the dirty work

19:26

of some of its more repressive members.

19:29

Russia, for one, has used Interpol to

19:32

track down people who have run afoul

19:34

of President Vladimir Putin. We

19:37

visited Interpol in Lyon, France last

19:39

fall and found an

19:41

institution trying to navigate the treacherous

19:43

path between policing and

19:46

politics. On

19:49

the banks of the Rhone River by a

19:51

tranquil city park sits the

19:53

highly secure global headquarters of Interpol.

19:56

For the past decade, it's been led

19:58

by Jurgen Stock. a former vice

20:01

president of the German federal police. The

20:03

purpose of Interpol is still the same,

20:06

connecting police for a safer world. As

20:09

Interpol's secretary general, stock manages

20:11

operations in Lyon and regional

20:14

offices on five continents. 900

20:18

employees work at the Lyon headquarters. Many

20:21

are police officers on loan from

20:23

member countries chosen for their expertise.

20:26

They don't carry guns or make

20:28

arrests, but rather collect and share

20:30

information with law enforcement agencies around

20:32

the globe. Interpol also

20:34

has bureaus in each member

20:36

country, including one in Washington,

20:38

D.C., managed by the

20:41

Departments of Justice and Homeland Security.

20:43

So what is the main mission

20:45

of Interpol? I would

20:47

describe it as an information broker. We

20:50

collect, we invite member countries to share

20:52

information. We do analysis. We

20:54

enrich the information. So Interpol's

20:56

information is leading to arrests

20:59

of high-level criminals, murderers, drug

21:02

traffickers, those who are abusing children all

21:04

around the world. Every single day that

21:06

happens. Last year,

21:08

Interpol coordinated a crackdown on

21:10

human trafficking and prostitution, Operation

21:13

Global Chain, that led to

21:15

212 arrests in 22 countries and

21:19

the release of more than 1,400 victims forced

21:22

into criminality. It's

21:24

been going after one of the world's

21:26

most powerful crime organizations, Italy-based

21:29

Andrangita. Thanks to

21:31

Interpol, the second most wanted man

21:33

in Italy, Roco Morabito, was arrested

21:35

in Brazil after 23 years on

21:37

the run. We

21:40

were able to identify. My role

21:42

is to make this information available

21:45

to the end users. Your members.

21:47

The member countries of Interpol. But

21:49

for me, the customers, the end users,

21:52

these are the police officers who wants to

21:54

arrest those major criminals

21:57

and providing them with actionable

21:59

information. everywhere around the world.

22:02

Interpol has a number of ways

22:04

to alert its members, including a

22:07

yellow notice for missing persons, a

22:09

black notice for unidentified bodies. Perhaps

22:12

most important, the red notice, a

22:14

closely guarded list of 74,000 of

22:17

the world's most wanted fugitives,

22:20

with the suspect's name, picture,

22:22

fingerprints, details of the alleged

22:25

crime, and the country seeking

22:27

the arrest. The red

22:29

notice is not an international arrest warrant.

22:31

That is also very often misunderstood. How

22:33

would you describe it? It seems like

22:36

it's a digital wanted poster. Yes. It's

22:38

an alert that we are disseminating, that

22:41

somebody is wanted by a member country.

22:44

Each notice is vetted by

22:46

a task force Secretary General

22:48

Stock created to make sure

22:50

it doesn't violate rules forbidding

22:52

the use of Interpol for

22:54

political, religious, or racial persecution.

22:56

But the vetting is not foolproof.

22:59

Some of Interpol's more repressive members

23:02

take advantage of red notices,

23:04

using fabricated charges to locate,

23:06

detain, and extradite people they

23:08

want to get their hands

23:10

on, like political dissidents or

23:12

innocent people who've merely displeased

23:14

powerful officials. Like any

23:16

information-sharing system, the information that you get out is

23:19

only as good as the information that you put

23:21

in. Reese Davies on

23:23

the left and Ben Teeth

23:25

are barristers. British lawyers who

23:28

help people accused of crimes

23:30

to navigate Interpol's complex bureaucracy.

23:33

Our clients come to us and say, we've

23:35

been accused in a particular state

23:37

of a criminal offense, which has

23:39

been fabricated for political reasons. And

23:41

Interpol's just taking this at face

23:43

value, issued a red notice. Both

23:46

concede Interpol does a lot of good,

23:50

despite a yearly budget of $170 million, which

23:54

is about the size of the Omaha

23:56

Police Department. Their constitution says that they

23:58

are meant to believe their member states. And

24:01

so when a member state, Russia,

24:03

China, Turkey, whose rule of

24:05

law is often

24:07

non-existent, say to them a

24:09

particular person is wanted for a criminal offence, they

24:12

are bound by the Constitution to believe

24:14

them. Does Interpol view all the information

24:16

that comes out of all of them

24:18

as equal? This is one of our

24:21

main frustrations, is that Interpol don't penalise

24:23

countries properly. They want everyone in

24:25

their club. They want everyone in

24:27

their club. When a country is

24:29

clearly egregiously breaching the rules and

24:31

manipulating the system on a gross

24:33

scale, they don't suspend them. They've

24:35

not suspended Russia. So

24:38

Russia is still an active member of Interpol. Russia

24:41

accounts for nearly half of the red

24:44

notices Interpol makes public. According

24:46

to a Russian police official, its Interpol bureau

24:49

in Moscow helped arrest and extradite more than

24:51

100 criminals in 2021, and in 2022 helped

24:53

nab the founder of the world's

25:00

largest dark-net criminal marketplace

25:02

called Hydra. But

25:04

some of the information Russia gives

25:06

Interpol is suspect. Members

25:08

of Congress, human rights groups and

25:11

the European Union have labelled Russia

25:13

a serial abuser of red notices.

25:15

So Russia is widely viewed as being

25:17

very brazen in its attempts to manipulate

25:20

the system. The famous example that we

25:22

often talk about is Bill

25:24

Browder. Bill Browder

25:26

is a London-based, American-born

25:28

financier. He made his fortune

25:30

in Russia, but has spent the last 11

25:33

years on the run from President

25:35

Vladimir Putin, after he

25:38

and his lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky,

25:40

exposed corruption by Russian government

25:42

officials. Magnitsky was arrested

25:45

and died after being beaten in

25:47

a Moscow prison. Browder

25:50

was convicted in absentia on

25:52

suspect fraud charges. The

25:55

Kremlin turned to Interpol to bring him

25:57

in. So how many times

25:59

by your count? has

26:01

Russia tried to arrest you by

26:03

way of Interpol? Eight times. I

26:06

must hold the Guinness Book of World Records

26:09

for the number of times they've tried to

26:11

abuse Interpol. His closest

26:13

call came in 2018 when

26:15

he was visiting Spain. I opened the

26:18

door of the hotel, and outside

26:20

the door just about to knock is the manager

26:22

of the hotel and two uniformed

26:24

officers from the Spanish police. I

26:27

pulled out my passport. I handed to

26:30

one of the two police officers, and

26:32

he said, you're under a loft. And I said, what

26:34

for? And he said, Interpol,

26:36

Russia. The hotel manager

26:38

told him to collect his things from

26:40

the bedroom. Once out of

26:43

sight, Browder grabbed his phone and sent

26:45

out this tweet. At the time, I

26:47

had about 100,000 followers, and I tweeted

26:49

out, urgent, being arrested in Madrid,

26:51

Spain right now. That was quick thinking. This is

26:54

not the first time I had this worry. They've

26:56

been chasing me with Interpol for a long time.

26:58

And so I'm sitting in the back of the

27:00

police car, and because they hadn't taken away my

27:02

phone, I took a picture of the back

27:05

of their heads. He sent this

27:07

picture in a second, urgent tweet, in

27:09

the back of the Spanish police car, going to

27:12

the station on the Russian arrest warrant. What

27:15

were you hoping to accomplish? I'm hoping to wake the whole

27:17

world up to the fact that I'm being arrested. I didn't

27:19

want to be slipped into

27:21

the back of a, you know, Russian

27:25

jet and sent off without anyone knowing where I was. What

27:27

did you think was happening or

27:29

was going to happen? If I sent to Russia,

27:31

I would be killed. No question about it. While

27:34

Browder stayed locked in a holding

27:37

cell, his tweets went around the

27:39

world. The chief of police comes back with

27:41

a translator and says, we've

27:44

just gotten off the phone with

27:46

Interpol General Secretariat in Lyon. The

27:49

warrant is no longer valid. You're

27:51

free to go. But

27:53

as a result of your tweets, as a result of the tweets,

27:56

are you fearful that

27:58

This could happen again? Every time I

28:01

cross the border the hearts are speeding

28:03

Little disaster. You. Know that

28:05

we as Jurgen Stop. Why?

28:07

After all this Russia hasn't

28:09

been suspended from Interpol. especially

28:11

considering the you when is

28:13

investigating Russia for war crimes

28:15

in Ukraine. I'm just trying

28:18

to understand our country that is

28:20

being investigated for mass murder can

28:22

be a member in good standing.

28:25

With. Interpol. Interpol introduced some measures

28:27

when the conflict started and to

28:30

avoid a of at any political

28:32

abuse of our systems, but we

28:34

also decided to keep let's say

28:37

the Tunnels of Information open. Russia

28:39

is hardly the only country to

28:42

use in a folder do it's

28:44

dirty work But Rain, for example,

28:46

used Interpol to nab a professional

28:49

soccer player, an outspoken critic of

28:51

the government at the Bangkok airport,

28:53

and twenty eighteen. He spent

28:56

two and a half months in a tie prison.

28:58

China used to read notice to

29:00

arrest this Chinese weaker activist in

29:02

Morocco. And Twenty Twenty one. He.

29:05

Remains in prison awaiting extradition.

29:08

And. Clutter issued a red notice

29:10

for the Scottish Engineer and Twenty

29:12

Twenty Two over a disputed five

29:14

thousand dollar bank loan. He.

29:16

Spent two months in an Iraqi prison.

29:19

All. Of these read notices were

29:21

eventually rescinded, but not before lives

29:23

were up Ended. I

29:26

don't know how to characterize the

29:28

people who get caught up in

29:30

this or the collateral damage know

29:33

I would never call that a

29:35

collateral damage and we are investing

29:37

all we can to ensure that

29:40

every piece of information in our

29:42

databases or complied with our rules

29:45

and regulations. But you know and

29:47

we have heard of incidents where

29:49

people are languishing in jail because

29:52

of. Erroneous information that

29:54

was sent out. By.

29:56

Interpol. I'm not saying that the

29:58

system is is tough. In fact, we

30:00

see wrong decisions on a national level, and

30:02

we have seen wrong decisions also in Interpol.

30:05

That is correct, a small number of cases.

30:08

Interpol admits in 2022, 304 of nearly 24,000 wanted

30:14

person alerts were found to violate

30:17

its rules and were eventually denied

30:19

or deleted. The organization

30:21

declined to share which countries were

30:23

the worst offenders. There

30:26

are well-documented cases against

30:28

Russia, China, Turkey,

30:30

United Arab Emirates, who

30:33

are repeatedly abusing the

30:35

Interpol notices. Why

30:37

not name and shame

30:40

these countries? Because we believe this

30:42

is not in the interest

30:44

of international police cooperation. You need to have

30:46

a platform where information has been collected from

30:48

different parts of the world where criminal groups

30:51

are operating. We want to

30:53

provide a channel even between states that

30:55

have diplomatic difficulties or even are in

30:57

conflict. Our decision is not to

31:00

police a member country in terms of their human

31:02

rights agenda. That's not our

31:04

role as a technical police organization. That's

31:06

not justice though, it's not justice. So

31:08

we get it right most of the

31:10

time. British barristers, Rhys Davies and Ben

31:12

Keith say if Interpol is to survive

31:14

another 100 years, it

31:17

must learn to police itself.

31:19

We're concerned about the rule of law and human

31:21

rights, and Interpol are concerned about trying to catch

31:23

people who are allegedly criminals. A load of innocent

31:26

people get caught up in the middle. It

31:28

feels a bit like that's the sort of price

31:30

they're prepared to pay for catching the bad guys.

31:33

And we think that the price that is paid is

31:35

far too high. And

31:48

low before the flood, the Lord said

31:50

to Noah, make yourself an ark, bring

31:52

out every kind of living creature. That

31:55

was the Old Testament. But what

31:57

happens today when disaster threatens animals?

32:00

A powerful force, a zoo, a

32:02

foreign government, even the US Department

32:04

of Justice, often calls from on

32:06

high and enlists the services of

32:08

one man, Pat Craig, founder of

32:10

the Wild Animal Sanctuary in Colorado,

32:13

who's emerged as the go-to guy

32:15

for orchestrating high-stakes rescues around the

32:17

world. Last spring we

32:19

accompanied this modern day Noah to his

32:21

zoo in Puerto Rico for his most

32:23

ambitious mission yet. These

32:27

lions were once literally the pride of Puerto

32:29

Rico, housed at the Dr. Juanay Rivera

32:32

Zoo in the coastal town of Mayaguez,

32:35

the only zoo on the island. But

32:38

after years of decline, mismanagement and

32:40

neglect, this was the

32:42

tableau that greeted Pat Craig and his

32:44

wife Monica when they arrived here from

32:47

Colorado. What was your impression when

32:49

you got to the zoo for the first time? The

32:52

animals were very, very sad-looking

32:54

and some of them were very, very

32:56

sick. I felt physically

32:58

and emotionally overwhelmed.

33:01

And even while we were there, animals died almost

33:03

on a weekly basis. So that felt even worse

33:05

because we're present and yet we

33:07

were there too late. Over

33:10

the course of a decade, the

33:12

US Department of Agriculture cited the

33:14

zoo two dozen times for substandard

33:16

conditions in animal mistreatment. After

33:19

hurricanes Irma and Maria ravaged the island,

33:21

the zoo closed to the public in 2018.

33:25

For the more than 300 winged,

33:27

scaled and four-legged residents

33:29

still captive, the situation

33:31

turned from bad to downright desperate.

33:35

We saw a zebra that had a horrible

33:37

wound on her leg and her tail and

33:39

she couldn't stand up. We

33:41

saw a pig that had a skin condition.

33:43

Her skin was just falling apart. A

33:46

mountain lion's untreated cancer had been allowed

33:48

to spread all over its body. And

33:50

I'm out in line suffering the way that he was.

33:53

That broke my heart and not being able

33:55

to... It

34:00

was just so evident that this facility was way

34:03

beyond repairs. The

34:06

U.S. Department of Justice, which enforces federal

34:08

animal welfare laws in the states and

34:11

Puerto Rico, agreed. And

34:13

in February staged an extraordinary intervention, sending

34:15

a battalion of agents to the zoo,

34:17

to evacuate every

34:20

single species to permanent homes on

34:22

the mainland. To

34:24

leave this mission, to captain this arc

34:26

as it were, the DOJ tapped wild

34:29

animal sanctuary founder Pat Craig. We

34:33

were there in April to witness the operation. Equal

34:36

parts military-style logistics, and

34:39

battlefield extraction. Among

34:42

the targets, seven lions sweltering

34:44

in a concrete bunker. And

34:46

they never hooked up the power after the hurricane, and they never

34:48

hooked up the power to the zoo. Never. There's

34:51

a zoo that's functioning with animals there,

34:54

and there's no power? There's no power. And

34:56

then if you look at the pictures from the inside of

34:58

their building, you know, it's the old steel bars, just like

35:00

jail cells, all in a row. When

35:03

it came time to coax the cats out

35:05

of their cages, Craig entered the lions dead.

35:09

Gather the lions. We're necessarily happy to see you

35:11

and go with you. What happened? They're

35:13

definitely defensive because they don't know who we are and

35:15

what we're doing and why. And so we show up

35:17

and we're like, believe me, you got to trust them.

35:19

We're trying to help you here. Hey! Hi!

35:23

Well, sweet talking didn't work. So

35:26

they deployed plan B, sedation.

35:29

Hard to watch, but accepted

35:31

practice when rescuing uncooperative carnivores.

35:35

Over the course of five months, Craig and

35:37

his team of 20 used patience, prodding,

35:41

pursuit, and grape

35:44

jelly to

35:46

lure each animal into its custom-built

35:48

crate. A camel. A

35:52

kangaroo. A rhinoceros.

35:55

These stubborn hippos. Monica

35:58

Craig, the native Spanish speaker, had

36:00

hoped to coordinate with the local staff.

36:03

But the team from Colorado mostly had to

36:05

go it alone. She says the

36:07

zookeepers in Puerto Rico often refused to

36:09

help. We tried

36:11

many, many days to

36:13

communicate with them and try to tell them,

36:15

hey, we're not bad people. We're just

36:18

trying to do what we're supposed to be doing for

36:20

these animals and give them a better home. What

36:22

was the response to that? They were upset.

36:24

They were like, no, I don't think

36:26

that's right. The animals belong

36:28

here. It

36:31

was a sentiment shared by many

36:33

in the community. And at times,

36:35

resistance curdled into outright sabotage. The

36:38

rescue team had nearly wrangled Mundi,

36:40

once a star attraction, into her

36:43

transport crate when suddenly... Out

36:45

of nowhere, this elephant just

36:48

flies up, tears out of there, starts

36:50

running around. What do you think happened? Well, I think somebody shot her

36:52

with a BB gun, if it may have asked me. And hit her

36:54

in the rear end? Hit her in the rear end just to make

36:56

her hate that crate. Now she thinks that

36:58

crate did something to her. We

37:01

reached out to Puerto Rico's Department of

37:03

Natural and Environmental Resources, which is responsible

37:05

for the zoo. In

37:07

a statement, it said the animals were

37:10

provided with comprehensive care and denied there

37:12

was any neglect, blaming problems

37:14

at the zoo on hurricane damage,

37:16

limited resources, and aging animals.

37:20

Once the transport was finally ready, a

37:23

police escort to the airport. Then

37:25

the animals were loaded, one by one, onto

37:28

charter flights bound for new homes

37:30

Craig had arranged at sanctuaries across

37:32

the U.S. How

37:34

do you ferry to safety an 8,000-pound elephant

37:38

like Mundi? On a 747 cargo jet, of course.

37:43

The parker brought a sigh of relief. When

37:46

she took off, I cried, because I

37:48

said, thank you, God, she's in, is

37:50

over, and she's out of here. There's

37:52

no question about it anymore. Pat

37:55

and Monica Craig took as many of the rescues as they

37:58

could back to their 1,200 a.m. acre

38:00

facility. A vast

38:02

menagerie roams the grassy enclosures on

38:04

the high plains of eastern Colorado.

38:07

Each of the 700 plus animals here

38:09

came with a sad backstory, wagging their

38:11

own tales of woe as it were.

38:14

Tigers kept in garages as pets.

38:17

Lions saved from a zoo in war-torn

38:19

Ukraine. Bears abused at

38:22

a Korean medical facility. Now

38:24

64, Craig got the idea for the place

38:27

as a teenager in the 1970s when a

38:29

friend who worked at a zoo gave him

38:31

a tour behind the scenes. There were all

38:33

these animals, lions and tigers that were in

38:35

small cages and he said these will be

38:37

euthanized and I thought wow this is crazy

38:39

you know. These are healthy and not old

38:42

or not sick. Craig decided

38:44

right then and there to open his

38:46

own sanctuary on his parents' small Colorado

38:48

farm. With few regulations

38:50

to guide him, he built the

38:53

animal enclosures himself and scoured biology

38:55

books for pointers. Did you have

38:57

any experience with lions and

38:59

tigers? No, none. You had a degree in

39:01

zoology? No, I was just starting college back

39:03

then. It was going to be a business

39:05

degree. And he quickly

39:07

learned that lions and tigers are no

39:09

house cats. In the early years I was

39:12

in the hospital more times than you could count. It was

39:14

like okay don't do that again and you know it's just

39:16

so all those years of making mistakes

39:18

and not getting killed. What specifically does a

39:20

mistake look like? Pretty bad. I've had my

39:22

left arm almost completely torn off. I've had

39:25

bit through the chest and collapsed lungs. The

39:28

animals Craig can handle but on

39:30

his missions to hostile environments around

39:32

the world, it's the people he

39:34

often needs extra help managing. Heavily

39:38

armed federal marshals accompanied Craig when

39:40

the Department of Justice dispatched him

39:42

to retrieve maltreated big cats that

39:44

had been kept by the notorious

39:47

Tiger King. Show exotic, the

39:49

unlikely Netflix sensation and

39:51

his associates. These

39:54

two were among the 141 animals

39:56

Craig liberated and brought back here. conditions

40:00

was Joe Exotic keeping these guys in

40:02

Oklahoma. Well, you know, it was just

40:05

all these really small cages that were

40:07

just in line after line because it

40:09

was a gigantic breeding operation primarily. The

40:12

rescue missions and the sanctuary operate on an

40:14

annual budget of $34 million. Funding

40:18

comes mostly from private donations. When

40:21

animals arrive here, this is often their

40:23

first stop, designed to

40:26

venomize shock by mimicking the conditions

40:28

they came from. Here

40:30

they're evaluated and given a treatment

40:32

plan, whether it's medication or emergency

40:35

surgery. Craig and staff

40:37

veterinarian Dr. Mikaela Vetters introduced us to Chad

40:39

and Malawi, both rescued from Puerto Rico.

40:41

How confident do we feel about our locks

40:43

here? Yeah, confident. This guy wants to get

40:45

out. She says, yeah. This guy's ready to

40:48

hang out with us. They

40:50

suffer from permanent neurological damage,

40:52

likely caused by malnutrition, something

40:54

Craig could spot just by

40:56

looking. You see how she keeps doing that?

40:58

Yeah. She doesn't have a control

41:00

over it. Head tilting at an angle. Yeah, we've

41:03

had literally hundreds of lions that have come through

41:05

that have had that kind of problem. You've seen

41:07

this before. Oh yeah.

41:09

The sanctuary devolves as a special diet for

41:11

each animal, which requires

41:13

100,000 pounds of

41:15

food per week, mainly donated

41:17

by nearby Walmarts. Occasional

41:20

cupcakes included. When we

41:22

met him, Mikey the Bear, another asylum

41:24

seeker from Puerto Rico, was midway through

41:27

his rehab. Right now he's

41:29

in his lockout just so we can medically

41:31

manage him. What did you see the first time you

41:33

saw him? He was in a

41:35

great deal of pain, very gingerly moving.

41:37

We assume he's got a great deal

41:40

of arthritis, which we've provided

41:42

medications for, and now he's getting around almost like

41:44

a young bear. Nursing

41:46

animals like Mikey back to physical health is

41:48

one thing. Ministering to their

41:50

emotional wounds is often a bigger challenge. Having

41:53

been raised in captivity, many of the

41:56

animals arrive with what amounts to severe

41:58

PTSD. and they

42:00

must be taught to trust the humans caring

42:02

for them. They're already mad at people anyway

42:04

because of whatever people had done. I had

42:06

one tiger years ago that anytime you came

42:09

near you want to hit the fence and

42:11

kill you. What's the timetable for trying

42:13

to ease some of the trauma these animals have been

42:15

through? You know, some were beaten, some were starved, some

42:18

were mentally tormented to

42:20

a degree, you know, and

42:22

so every case is different. So some of them

42:25

will do it in a matter of days, some

42:27

will be in a few weeks. Doesn't that story

42:29

imply however traumatic this may have been, it's not

42:32

irreversible? It's not irreversible. The

42:35

goal of all this rehab is to get

42:37

these wild animals to act the part. Remember

42:41

Mundi? At the zoo she had

42:43

zero contact with other elephants for more than 30

42:45

years. We

42:47

accompanied Craig on a visit to a

42:50

refuge in Georgia where he placed Mundi

42:52

under the care of conservationist Carol Buckley.

42:54

This marked the first time Craig and the elephant

42:57

had seen each other since Puerto Rico. What do

42:59

you notice? Well first thing she

43:01

just looks so much healthier and just

43:04

her demeanor is so much calmer and nicer.

43:06

Every day when I would go see her in the

43:09

zoo I just kind of just hurt. And then now

43:11

to see this is just amazing, just

43:13

truly amazing. Hey pretty lady. Buckley

43:15

provides the care and feeding but

43:18

happily admits Mundi's real mentors are

43:20

the other elephants here. You're

43:22

just the innkeeper, you're just the chef. Hey

43:24

I just opened and closed doors and mixed with the

43:26

water and they're running you know. And

43:28

the other elephant knows what they need to

43:30

learn and they're... They're nicer. Every

43:33

day when I would go see her in the zoo

43:35

I just kind of just hurt. And then now to

43:37

see this is just amazing, just truly

43:39

amazing. Hey pretty lady. Buckley

43:42

provides the care and feeding but

43:44

happily admits Mundi's real mentors are

43:46

the other elephants here. You're

43:48

just the innkeeper, you're just the chef. Hey I

43:50

just opened and closed doors and mixed with the water

43:52

and they're running you know. And the

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other elephant knows what they need to learn

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and they're instructing them. It's fantastic. It is

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an example. exactly the same as what

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happens in the wild. That's

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the same principle Craig employs at his

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sanctuary. And after

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two months of rehab, the lions from

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Puerto Rico were ready to enter their

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permanent habitat. Alright, Robert's going to

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open the door. We

44:17

were on hand for the release. No

44:19

one quite knew what to expect, not least

44:21

the lions. You can go. Yeah.

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The first was reticent. But

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one by one... This must

44:29

just be literally life changing. They

44:32

started to venture out, enclosed for their

44:34

safety and ours, but otherwise in

44:36

a vast ocean of green. These

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guys have been in captivity their whole lives. This

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is the first. Yeah, this will be the first

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time ever that they've been able to either run

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or live in a big space like this, even

44:48

have deep grass. Makes you feel good? Yeah, absolutely.

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This is why we do this. There

44:53

were a few scuffles, but for Pat Craig,

44:55

that's exactly what he'd hoped for. Lions

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acting like, well, lions. The

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animals come to this sanctuary from all

45:04

over the world, but in this

45:06

unlikely setting, here silhouetted by the

45:08

Rockies in eastern Colorado, they

45:11

find more than just sanctuary. They

45:13

finally find a home. Next

45:19

Sunday on 60 Minutes, as America gears

45:22

up for the Super Bowl on February

45:24

11th, John Wertheim investigates the growing and

45:26

often addictive hold online sports betting has

45:29

on young men. People

45:31

who aren't familiar might think of the

45:33

typical gambling addict as, you know, the

45:35

middle-aged guy in a windbreaker who's betting

45:38

his retirement savings. It's

45:40

more prominent in the younger generation, I think, than

45:42

ever. The sportsbooks and the commercials

45:45

and the leagues themselves are

45:48

making it look so cool to gamble and risk

45:50

your money. And when

45:52

impetuous 22-year-olds making snap bets

45:54

go up against gambling corporations

45:56

armed with data banks, artificial

45:59

intelligence, and engineering, engineering, the

46:01

result is often a mismatch. I'm

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Cecilia Vega.