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04/28/2024: Children of War, Nvidia, Crisis at Pearl Harbor

04/28/2024: Children of War, Nvidia, Crisis at Pearl Harbor

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2:16

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Yeah. It's

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an incredible feat. Pearl Harbor's

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it's affected thousands of military families.

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I'm Leslie Stahl. I'm Bill

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wounded warriors. But less

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are in need but remain

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hidden. They are the children

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living with injured veterans. In

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a profound sense, PTSD can

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be contagious. Many

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children have become caregivers confronting

5:31

depression and fear. And

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you will hear tonight that the stress

5:36

can be so great it can lead

5:38

to attempts of suicide. You

5:40

are about to meet two courageous families

5:42

who spoke to us so

5:45

that others can know that help is

5:47

on the way for America's

5:49

children of war. In

5:53

2011, Chuck Rothenberry was

5:56

a Marine on patrol in

5:58

Afghanistan when an Emperor land

6:00

mine detonated a few feet away.

6:04

Which sent me down the hill

6:06

20, 30 feet, knocked me out, caused

6:11

catastrophic injuries to the Marine behind

6:13

me and the Marine behind him. It

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was Rothenberry's second combat tour

6:19

after Iraq. What

6:21

happened to the Marine behind you who had

6:23

stepped on the IED? He lost both

6:25

his legs above the knee. You

6:28

and the medic put the tourniquets on him. Yes. You

6:31

saved his life. I

6:33

helped out, yeah. When

6:36

Rothenberry came home from his seven-month

6:38

deployment, his wife Liz

6:40

was pregnant with their fourth child. Chuck

6:43

was suffering with a brain injury from

6:46

a concussion and PTSD.

6:49

Chuck was struggling to just be in

6:51

the house because he

6:53

was dealing with so many emotions,

6:56

mentally and physically. He

6:59

was hiding in, you know, back rooms, and I

7:01

had to find him crying. And

7:04

he didn't understand why he was crying. I

7:07

didn't know whether I was coming

7:09

or going. Chuck kept a

7:11

video diary as he

7:14

dealt with self-isolation, anxiety,

7:16

depression, and denial. One

7:19

second I'm up, super high, the next I'm

7:22

not. Chuck,

7:25

who was that man who came home? In

7:28

my head, it was me. But

7:31

I was very far

7:33

from it, I think. At

7:36

age seven, his son Christopher pitched

7:39

in. Over the years,

7:41

he tried to shield his dad from

7:43

triggers that set him off and

7:45

shield his sisters from the emotional

7:47

trauma. I was just worried about a

7:49

lot of different things, things

7:52

that kids,

7:54

I guess, at that age, should not be

7:56

worried about. It

8:00

kind of evolved

8:02

into kind of

8:05

like a helplessness. He

8:07

was becoming almost like my husband. There

8:10

were times where he wouldn't be able to go to school

8:13

because he was so

8:15

stressed internally from everything

8:17

happening and I don't think he knew how to

8:19

process it and understand it. I

8:22

knew Christopher was starting to struggle

8:24

with the weight of it all. The

8:28

weight grew as Chris turned 12.

8:31

The worst of it was in seventh grade. I

8:34

think I had kind

8:37

of decided that my family

8:39

would be better off without

8:41

me here. I

8:44

remember looking back on those days and it was just chaos

8:46

all the time. I

9:00

remember taking one

9:06

of the dog's leashes upstairs and

9:09

tied one into the bunk bed that we had,

9:11

my little brother's bunk bed. I tried

9:16

hanging myself and it

9:20

was working. My

9:22

mom walked in on me kind of and I

9:25

think I was kind of about to

9:27

pass out. I was kind of

9:31

losing consciousness. Walking in

9:34

and seeing what was happening to him and

9:36

what he was really struggling with, I

9:39

knew everything else had to stop. Everything

9:41

just had to stop and my focus had to be

9:43

Christopher. Liz

9:46

became the warrior, fighting for

9:48

her family. Christopher

9:50

went to intensive therapy. Then

9:53

he and his sisters enrolled

9:55

in a clinic for military

9:57

children confronting PTSD. It's

10:00

hard as a military family to own that. When

10:02

you're built with

10:04

such pride and strength and

10:07

you're seen as resilient as the word is

10:09

in our community, but it's okay

10:11

to not be resilient and it's

10:15

okay to ask for help. Therapy saved

10:17

your family. It did. Little

10:22

was known about families like

10:24

the Rothenberries until the

10:26

wife of a wounded warrior spent

10:28

ten months at Walter

10:31

Reed National Military Medical Center.

10:34

Elizabeth Dole, former Senator

10:36

and transportation secretary, heard

10:38

these families while caring

10:40

for the late Senator

10:42

Bob Dole. And

10:44

I met all of these young spouses, mothers,

10:46

dads who were caring for their

10:48

wounded warriors. I don't think

10:51

America is aware of what's happening. Most

10:53

Americans have no idea what's happening

10:55

in these military families. Less

10:58

than one percent are serving in the

11:00

military today. Less than

11:02

one percent are protecting our freedom and

11:04

our security. And it's so

11:06

important for us to raise awareness of

11:08

their challenges and their needs and provide

11:11

them with support. Dole

11:13

created a foundation that

11:15

commissions studies of military

11:18

caregivers. The studies

11:20

discovered that more than one

11:22

million are caring for those

11:24

injured during the wars since

11:26

9-11. Nearly half said

11:29

they were overwhelmed. You

11:31

know, they felt guilty really that

11:33

they were leaning on their children

11:35

so much, needing their support, and

11:38

that this was causing problems for

11:40

the children. There are 2.3 million

11:42

military children

11:45

living in the homes of wounded warriors. One

11:48

of them is Elizabeth Cornelius. And

11:51

I just need to make sure everybody's okay,

11:53

because if my mom isn't okay, everything's

11:55

going to just fall. Elizabeth

11:58

has helped her mom Ariel as

12:00

long as she can remember. Even

12:03

before she was born, her dad

12:05

brought terrifying memories home from a

12:07

combat tour in Iraq. Ariel

12:11

told us his first episode

12:13

came with a pizza delivery.

12:16

The delivery man came up to the door and knocked

12:18

on the door. And,

12:20

you know, my husband didn't expect it, and he had

12:23

an immediate flashback and threw me to the floor and

12:26

was yelling, get down, get down, get down, get down. Even

12:29

with that, he deployed to

12:31

Iraq again in 2007 and

12:34

to Afghanistan in 2011. Ariel

12:38

is a schoolteacher. Her husband

12:40

is completely disabled by PTSD.

12:44

He can't work and wasn't up

12:46

to speaking with us. 16-year-old

12:49

Elizabeth has become something of a

12:51

co-parent to a brother and sister

12:53

at home in Montana. Shielding

12:55

them, she told us, from

12:57

episodes and arguments. I

13:00

just try to shield them as much as I can,

13:02

as my mom did for me, and she did it

13:04

for a very long time. A lot of it falls

13:06

on myself, and then she goes out and helps pick

13:08

up the pieces that I can't. Her

13:11

husband's worst crisis came

13:13

on the anniversary of an attack

13:15

that killed several of his fellow

13:18

Marines. Oh, gosh.

13:21

He was extremely suicidal, but

13:23

Ariel found beds for inpatient

13:26

mental health care can be scarce. You know,

13:28

Helena is an hour and a half to two

13:30

hours away. Casper,

13:33

Wyoming is eight plus hours away, and

13:36

they didn't have a bed. We then looked at

13:38

her and said, I'm going to

13:40

go to the hospital. I'm going to go to

13:42

the hospital. I'm going to

13:44

go to the hospital. I'm going to go

13:46

to the hospital. I'm going to go to the

13:49

hospital. We had a family member about a month

13:51

ago and they took a baby. He's a little bit

13:53

of a bitch. We lived four days away, and they

13:55

didn't have a bed. We then looked at Idaho. They

13:57

didn't have a bed. We looked at Oregon. They

13:59

didn't have a bed. He needed an Puget

14:01

Sound Washington and you know

14:04

that's ten hours away. Three

14:06

weeks. During this time, you felt like

14:09

he could commit suicide at any point

14:11

in time. And

14:14

we couldn't get help. Chasing

14:16

care in a crisis and

14:19

navigating government health insurance raise

14:21

stress for everyone. And

14:24

service on her says see has

14:26

been on the phone for hours

14:29

and hours reading pamphlets, trying to

14:31

find us help. In.

14:33

Twenty eighteen Elizabeth Dole Watched

14:36

President Trump signed a law

14:38

that expanded V. A Benefits

14:40

for Caregivers of the severely

14:42

disabled. It offers a stipend,

14:45

access to health insurance, and

14:47

counseling. The Dole

14:49

Foundation studies found that at

14:51

least one hundred other organizations

14:54

are providing support, which know

14:56

include the Dole Foundation itself.

14:59

Steve Schwab is the Ceo.

15:01

How does the Foundation help these children

15:04

on? the first things that we do

15:06

as we offer emergency financial support to

15:08

anybody who needs it. Second is pure

15:10

support. Were. Building a first of

15:12

its kind peer support model that will link

15:14

these children with other children like them for

15:17

the first time. In. Their lives.

15:19

We. Offer on the ground must the care

15:21

better care and the home. To

15:23

provide a trained healthcare worker to come in and

15:26

bath that mom or dad So that's a family

15:28

can take a break together. One.

15:30

Dole Foundation partner cold our

15:33

military kids paid sees to

15:35

help keep the Cornelius children

15:38

in sports. Their mom aerials

15:40

says that even the little

15:43

things help her husband. He

15:46

is an amazing man and I can't

15:48

wait for him to get past. May

15:52

know how never get past the Ptsd. That for.

15:54

Hims a seal and us

15:56

tess enjoy life sense of

15:58

Illinois, the family dynamic, The Not.

16:01

Been around, you have hope

16:03

for that a shirt a

16:06

of us to day lives

16:08

Routine Buried leads the Dole

16:10

Foundation initiative to train caregivers

16:12

to be public advocates, for

16:15

example on Capitol Hill. Husband

16:18

Chuck is recovering and works

16:20

as a dog trainer for

16:23

the Secret Service and Son

16:25

Christopher recovered and has applied

16:27

to follow his father into

16:29

the. Military after all

16:31

the things that Chris

16:33

dead to help the

16:36

family during your troubles.

16:39

What would you like your son to know? First

16:44

of all, everybody, everybody that's in my

16:46

life now. I

16:49

wouldn't be here without them. I tell my

16:51

love him all the time. And

16:55

he replies. By

16:58

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future. A new industrial

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us of the transformational moment

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when Apple's Steve Jobs unveiled

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the iPhone. Jensen Huang

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unveiled NVIDIA's latest graphics

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processing unit, or GPU. This

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but made in Taiwan like

21:20

most advanced semiconductors, Blackwell, he

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says, is the fastest chip

21:25

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21:27

for Blackwell. The whole industry

21:30

is gearing up for Blackwell. NVIDIA

21:32

ushered in the AI revolution

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with its game-changing GPU. A

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single chip able to process a

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myriad of calculations all at once,

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not sequentially like more standard

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chips. The GPU is

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the engine of NVIDIA's AI

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computer, enabling it to rapidly

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absorb a fire hose of

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it doing things now that surprise you? We're

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hoping that it does things that surprise us. That's the whole

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point. In some areas

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like drug discovery, designing better

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materials that are lighter, stronger. We

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need artificial intelligence to help us

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explore the universe in places that

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we could have never done ourselves. Let me show

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you. Here, look at

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this. Jensen took us around the

22:22

GTC convention hall to show us

22:24

what AI has made possible in

22:26

just the past few years. And

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they do your drink now. And

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some creations were dazzling. This

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is a digital twin of the Earth.

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Once it learns how to calculate weather,

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it can calculate and predict weather 3,000

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times faster than

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metallic spaceship.

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And let's generate something. Sanar Sehan

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Demurdah is originally from Istanbul,

23:00

but co-founded Qubrit near Boston.

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Her AI application uses Invidia's

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GPUs to instantly turn a

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simple text prompt into a

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virtual movie set for a

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today's backdrops. This isn't something

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that's already planned in

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there. No, we're doing it in real time.

23:19

It's life. Is Hollywood knocking at your

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door? And we're getting a

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lot of love. Nearby

23:26

at Generate Biomedicines, Dr.

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Alex Snyder, head of

23:30

research and development, is

23:32

using Invidia's technology to

23:34

create protein-based drugs. She

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was surprised at first to see they showed

23:39

promise in the lab. Initially,

23:42

when I was told about the application of AI

23:44

to drug development, I sort of rolled my eyes

23:46

and said, yeah, show me the data. And

23:49

then I looked at the data. And it was very compelling.

23:52

Dr. Snyder's team asks its

23:54

AI models to create new

23:56

proteins to fight specific diseases

23:58

like cancer and asthma. A

24:01

new way to defeat the Corona

24:03

virus is now in clinical trials

24:06

your now working with hotels do

24:08

not exist in nature. The coming

24:10

up with. By way of

24:13

ai. Yeah we are actually

24:15

generating what we call the know

24:17

of a completely new structures are

24:19

have an article said before he

24:21

sustained. A scientist who

24:23

tantrums to have to test for

24:25

happening single sentence. Is all for

24:27

taking the fall of really pushing

24:30

the feel the pressure. By as

24:32

you know tried that look like regular

24:34

drug that functions as an better. This

24:37

is a technology that will only

24:39

get better for her roots. Had

24:42

com que ce Sid's a Silicon

24:44

Valley startup with funding from invidious

24:47

Look at his answer to Labour

24:49

Shoes and in video Gp you

24:51

driven prototype called Seduce Launch. Sequence.

24:55

Been really extraordinary as the pace of progress

24:57

is made of twenty one months from zero

24:59

to this one here to see a route.

25:01

We were walking this robot and under years

25:03

as I incorporated company. Could.

25:05

You do this without invidious technology. We

25:08

think they're arguably the best in a world

25:11

of this. I. Don't know for some

25:13

be possible without them. I'm here

25:15

to assist with tasks as requested.

25:17

We. Were amazed that figure

25:19

one is not just walking

25:22

but seemed to reason hand

25:24

me something healthy. And

25:27

is figure one was able

25:29

to understand. I wanted the

25:31

arms not the package. Snacks

25:33

Thank you. It's not your

25:35

successes are good as but

25:37

the early results are so

25:39

promising. German automaker B M

25:41

W plans to start testing

25:43

the robot in South Carolina

25:45

factory this year. Think

25:47

there's an opportunity to ship doing the

25:50

robots in the coming decades. On.

25:53

Of a planet. Billions. I would

25:55

think that a lot of workers

25:57

would look at. That is. robot

26:00

is taking my job. I think

26:02

over time AI and robotics will start doing

26:04

more and more of what humans can and

26:07

better. But what about

26:09

the worker? The workers work

26:12

for companies and so

26:14

companies when they become

26:16

more productive earnings increase. I've

26:19

never seen one company that

26:21

had earnings increase and

26:23

not hire more people. There are

26:25

some jobs that are going to

26:27

become obsolete. Well let me

26:29

offer it this way. I believe that you still

26:32

want human in the loop because

26:34

we have good judgment because there

26:36

are circumstances that the machines are not just

26:38

not going to understand. The futuristic NVIDIA

26:40

campus sits just down the

26:42

road from its modest birthplace

26:45

this Denny's in San Jose.

26:47

Good morning. Where 31

26:50

years ago NVIDIA was just an

26:52

idea. My goodness. When he

26:54

was 15 Jensen Huang worked

26:56

as a dishwasher at Denny's. As

26:59

a 30 year old electrical

27:01

engineer married with two children

27:03

he and two friends NVIDIA

27:05

co-founders Chris Malachowski and Curtis

27:08

Pream envisioned a

27:10

whole new way of processing video game

27:12

graphics. So we came here right here

27:14

to this Denny's sat right back there

27:18

and the three of us decided to start the company. Frankly

27:20

I had no idea how to do it and

27:23

nor did they. None of us knew how to do anything.

27:26

Their big idea accelerate

27:28

the processing power of computers

27:30

with a new graphics chip.

27:33

Their initial attempt flopped and nearly

27:35

bankrupted the company in 1996. And

27:38

the genius of the engineers

27:40

and Chris and Curtis we

27:43

pivoted to the right way of doing things. And

27:46

created their groundbreaking GPU.

27:49

The chip took video games from this

27:51

to this

27:54

today. Completely changed.

27:57

Computer graphics. Save the company.

28:00

launched us into the stratosphere.

28:03

Just eight years after Denny's, NVIDIA

28:06

earned a spot in the S&P 500.

28:09

Jensen then set his sights on developing

28:11

the software and hardware for

28:14

a revolutionary GPU-driven

28:16

supercomputer, which would take

28:18

the company far beyond video games. To

28:21

Wall Street, it was a risky bet. To

28:24

early developers of AI, it was

28:26

a revelation. Was that

28:28

luck or was that vision that was

28:32

luck founded by vision? We

28:34

invented this capability, and

28:36

then one day, the researchers that

28:39

were creating deep learning discovered

28:42

this architecture. Because this

28:44

architecture turns out to have been perfect for them. Perfect

28:47

for AI. This

28:49

is the first one we've ever shipped. In

28:52

2016, Jensen delivered NVIDIA's

28:54

AI supercomputer, the first of its

28:56

kind, to Elon Musk, then a

28:59

board member of OpenAI, which

29:02

used it to create the building blocks

29:04

of chat GPT. How are you? When

29:07

AI took off... Hey, guys. So

29:09

did Jensen Huang's reputation. Can

29:13

we get a picture? Yeah, yeah. He's now

29:15

a Silicon Valley celebrity. He

29:17

told us the boy who immigrated from Taiwan

29:20

at age nine could

29:22

never have conceived of this. It

29:24

is the most extraordinary thing, Bill, that

29:27

a normal dishwasher

29:30

busboy could grow up to be this. There's

29:32

no magic. It's just 61 years

29:36

of hard work every single

29:38

day. I don't think there's anything

29:40

more than that. We met a

29:42

humble Jensen at Denny's. Back

29:44

at NVIDIA's headquarters in Santa Clara,

29:47

we saw he can be intense.

29:51

Let me tell you what some of the people who you work

29:53

with said about you. Demanding.

29:55

Perfectionist. Not easy to work for. All

29:59

that sound right? Perfectly, yeah. It

30:01

should be like that. If

30:04

you want to do extraordinary things, it

30:07

should be easy. All right, guys,

30:09

keep up the good work. Invidia has never

30:11

done better. Investors are

30:13

bullish. But last year, more than

30:15

600 top AI

30:17

scientists, ethicists and others

30:19

signed this statement urging

30:21

caution, warning of AI's

30:23

risk to humanity. When

30:26

I talk to you and I hear you speak,

30:28

part of me goes, gee, we did.

30:31

And the other part of me goes, oh my

30:33

God, what are we in for? Yeah,

30:36

yeah. Which one is it? It's both. It's

30:38

both. Yeah, you're feeling all the right

30:40

feelings. I feel both. You feel both.

30:43

Sure, sure. Humanity will have the

30:46

choice to see themselves

30:48

inferior to machines or

30:51

superior to machines. Tanar

30:53

Sehan Demurda is an AI optimist,

30:55

though she named her company Q-Britt,

30:57

an homage to Stanley Q-Britt, the

30:59

director of 2001, A Space Odyssey.

31:04

Hello, how do you read me? In that

31:06

film, Hal, the AI computer,

31:08

goes rogue. Open the

31:10

pod bay doors, Hal. I'm

31:13

sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I

31:15

can't do that. I think that's

31:17

what worries people about

31:20

AI, that we will

31:22

lose control of it. Just

31:25

because a machine can do faster

31:28

calculations, comparisons, and analytical solution

31:30

creation, that doesn't make you smarter

31:32

than you. It simply

31:34

computates faster. In

31:37

my world, in my belief, smarts

31:39

have to do with your

31:41

capacity to love, create, expand,

31:44

transcend. These

31:46

are qualities that no machine can

31:48

ever bear, that are reserved

31:50

to only humans. There is

31:52

something going on. Jensen Huang

31:54

sees an AI future of

31:57

progress and prosperity, not

31:59

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32:02

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32:05

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and our good times. The

34:04

U.S. military takes pride in protecting

34:07

its own. That's why military

34:09

families we met in Hawaii told us

34:11

they feel so betrayed. Two

34:13

years ago, there was a fuel spill

34:16

close to the drinking water system at

34:18

the Pearl Harbor Base in Hawaii. Navy

34:21

leadership assured thousands of military families

34:23

that the tap water was safe.

34:26

But nearly two weeks after the spill,

34:28

parents learned the truth. The

34:30

water they drank or used to bathe their

34:32

kids contained jet fuel. Tonight,

34:35

you'll hear from some of the families

34:37

who say the jet fuel-tainted water made

34:39

them sick. But first, we'll

34:42

go to where the water crisis at

34:44

Pearl Harbor began. From

34:47

the air, the historic naval base is

34:49

easy to spot. Miles

34:51

from Honolulu, sparkling blue waters

34:53

host battle-gray ships and memorials

34:55

to those killed by Japan's

34:57

surprise attack in 1941. What

35:02

you can't see is the once-secret

35:04

storage site that provided fuel for

35:06

the Pacific Fleet and its planes

35:08

for 80 years. It

35:11

doesn't look like much from the outside. Wait

35:13

till you get inside. Vice Admiral

35:15

John Wade led us through the

35:17

Red Hill Bulk Fuel Storage Facility.

35:20

Seven miles of tunnels cut through

35:22

volcanic rock built to hold 250 million gallons

35:24

of fuel. So

35:27

this is one of the tanks. Oh my

35:30

gosh. That black hole

35:32

is a steel-lined fuel tank so deep

35:34

it's hard to see the bottom 20

35:37

stories below. To just

35:39

show you how enormous this is, this tank holds

35:41

12.5 million gallons. And

35:44

to give you kind of a reference point, the Statue

35:46

of Liberty, not the base, but the statue itself, can

35:48

fit in here with enough room. And

35:52

this is just one of the 20

35:54

tanks hidden here. When

36:00

Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, construction

36:02

was already underway to protect the

36:04

Navy's fuel reserves from an aerial

36:07

attack. The decision was

36:09

made to embark on a herkeling

36:11

task to build a

36:13

bulk storage fuel facility inside a

36:15

mountain in secrecy. And how long

36:17

did that take to do? It

36:20

was a little less than three years. At

36:22

its peak, there are about 4,000 men working here. Watch

36:26

your head, we're going to get this way. The

36:28

testament to American resolve became

36:30

a monumental liability after

36:32

this. That's

36:34

jet fuel spraying from a cracked pipe.

36:37

The video was recorded by a worker

36:39

inside Red Hill on November 20th of 2021. The

36:44

fuel, 20,000 gallons of it,

36:46

was trapped in a plastic pipe.

36:49

The weight caused the pipe to sag. This

36:52

trolley hit it. And

36:54

jet fuel spewed for 21 hours. Close

36:57

to the well, the supplied drinking

36:59

water for 93,000 people on

37:01

and around the base at Pearl Harbor.

37:05

According to Navy investigators, the workers who

37:07

responded didn't have the right tools to

37:09

contain the salt. They also

37:11

assumed there was no danger to the drinking

37:13

water. They were wrong. At least 5,000

37:17

gallons of jet fuel drained into the

37:19

tunnel floor and into the Navy water

37:21

system. The

37:23

next day, the Navy issued a press release

37:25

about the incident and told the 8,400 families

37:29

living in military housing the water

37:31

remained safe to drink, even

37:33

though the Navy had not tested the

37:35

water yet. A week later,

37:38

residents began to notice a problem.

37:41

When did you get the sense that there was something wrong with

37:43

the water? My husband came

37:45

into the kitchen and washed his hands

37:48

and said, gosh, the water smells

37:50

like I just did an oil change, like the

37:52

water smells weird. Brittany

37:54

Traeger lived on base, about two and

37:56

a half miles from Red Hill, with

37:58

her daughter and husband, who's Navy

38:00

chief petty officer. Trigger

38:02

says she began to feel sick a week

38:04

after the spill. I had

38:07

a cough. My tonsils were very

38:09

swollen. I remember a very distinct

38:11

moment where I was walking to the car

38:13

and I had vertigo so bad that I

38:15

had to hold on to the car. The

38:17

smell was that overwhelming. In

38:20

an email to residents nine days

38:22

after the spill, the commanding officer

38:24

of the base reassured residents there

38:26

are no immediate indications that the

38:28

water is not safe. My staff

38:30

and I are drinking the water.

38:33

Did you stop using water? Did you stop taking

38:35

baths? So I

38:37

did. My daughter did. Just because you had

38:40

a bad feeling, not because anybody told you

38:42

to. Correct. They gave us

38:44

an email address that we could send an email

38:46

to if we wanted to have our water tested.

38:48

So I emailed those

38:50

people who then emailed me a phone number that

38:52

I should call and I called that phone

38:55

number for days and it was just busy.

38:57

They were overwhelmed and inundated

38:59

with reports. Ten

39:02

days after the spill, there were more than 200 reports

39:04

from six neighborhoods

39:07

across the base of strong

39:09

fuel odor coming from kitchen

39:11

and bathroom faucets. But the

39:13

Navy said its initial test did

39:15

not detect fuel. It

39:17

defied logic, you know, even though there was

39:20

a leak and even though

39:22

our water smelt like jet fuel and even

39:24

though there was sheen on it, they continued

39:26

to say the tests are coming back negative.

39:29

After 12 days and four

39:31

statements assuring residents the water

39:33

was not contaminated with fuel,

39:35

the Navy reversed course. On

39:39

December 2nd, 2021, it

39:41

announced more comprehensive tests

39:44

conducted by the Navy had detected

39:46

jet fuel in the water. Three

39:49

weeks after the spill, tests from

39:51

Hawaii's Department of Health revealed jet

39:54

fuel levels 350 times

39:56

higher than what the state considers

39:58

safe. Rochelle

40:00

Dietz lives on base with her husband, a

40:02

Navy Chief Petty Officer, and their two

40:05

children. That feels not

40:07

something that you would even think could happen

40:09

to be in your water. How were people

40:12

reacting to this? I was

40:14

so sick to my stomach from that news

40:16

that I actually threw up when I hurt. Because

40:19

why? Because my kids have just been

40:22

poisoned. Within a

40:24

month, the Navy set up medical

40:26

tents for residents. Some complained of

40:28

stomach problems, severe fatigue, and

40:30

coughing. The military moved more than

40:32

4,000 families to hotels. Most

40:36

studies of military personnel suggest

40:38

jet fuel exposure can lead

40:40

to neurological and breathing problems.

40:44

But the long-term impact of ingesting

40:46

jet fuel is unknown because it's

40:48

so unlikely to ever happen. Rochelle

40:51

Dietz told us days after the

40:54

spill, her daughter's tonsils became inflamed,

40:56

and her son started suffering from

40:58

chronic headaches. I

41:00

can hear people saying, tonsils, headaches,

41:02

kids get that stuff, how do you know it's

41:04

related? Because

41:06

they never had it before November of 2021. It wasn't

41:08

an issue. It's

41:13

unclear how many got sick, but of

41:15

2,000 people who responded to a

41:17

survey by the Centers for Disease Control and

41:19

Prevention, more than 850 sought medical

41:21

care. The

41:24

water system was flushed over three months,

41:28

and bottled water brought in. Brittany

41:31

Traeger said her 4-year-old now

41:33

suffers respiratory problems, which

41:35

require hour-long treatments at least

41:37

two times a day. That

41:39

includes a nebulizer and this

41:41

vibrating vest to clear her lungs. Tell

41:45

me about your daughter's health. 13 days. After

41:51

the contamination, after our water smelled like

41:53

jet fuel, my

41:55

daughter woke up in the hotel with a cough.

42:00

And it pretty much never went

42:02

away. Three

42:05

months passed before Pearl Harbor's drinking

42:07

water was deemed safe again. The

42:10

Navy's own investigation into the

42:12

spill described quote, cascading failures

42:15

and revealed poor training, supervision

42:17

and ineffective leadership at Red

42:19

Hill that fell unacceptably short

42:22

of Navy standards. For

42:24

the last 10 years, Hawaiians have raised

42:26

concerns about the threat from smaller leaks

42:28

at Red Hill. The

42:31

primary water supply for the city

42:33

of Honolulu is 100 feet below

42:35

the Navy complex. In

42:38

March of 2022, the secretary of defense ordered

42:41

Red Hill permanently closed. Vice

42:45

Admiral John Wade was brought in to

42:47

get the 104 million gallons of fuel

42:49

out of the tanks and move it

42:51

safely to sites around the Pacific. We

42:54

got it to fuel, that's the imminent

42:56

threat. There's ongoing and will be continued

42:59

long-term environmental remediation to restore

43:02

the aquifer, the

43:04

land and surrounding area. And

43:06

then there's also a medical component for those that

43:08

have been impacted. You view now

43:10

the thing that was a lifeline for the

43:12

fleet is a threat. That's

43:14

right, that's right. In six

43:17

months, Wade's team in Hawaii successfully

43:19

removed almost all of the fuel. But

43:22

it took two years before the Navy

43:24

issued disciplinary letters to 14 officers involved

43:28

in the spill response, including

43:30

five admirals. Including

43:32

five admirals. Was

43:34

anyone fired because of this? At

43:37

the time that the accountability

43:39

came through, we had officers

43:41

that had already retired. And

43:43

so they had already separated

43:45

from service. Meredith

43:48

Berger is an assistant secretary of

43:50

the Navy. We met her at the Pentagon

43:52

in November. She told us the

43:54

Navy has been accountable. We're talking

43:56

about 20,000 gallons of fuel leak. 90,000

44:01

people had their water contaminated. It

44:03

looks like people were tired or

44:05

were reassigned and no

44:08

one was fired. How is that accountability? It's

44:12

accountability within the system that we

44:14

have established and we have heard

44:16

that this was too long and

44:18

that maybe it didn't go far

44:21

enough. Two thousand

44:23

military families agree the Navy didn't go

44:25

far enough and are suing the

44:27

government. The Traeger's and

44:29

Deats' have joined the lawsuit alleging

44:31

they were harmed by negligence at

44:34

Red Hill. Are you

44:36

angry that it happened or are

44:38

you angry at what happened after? It's

44:41

a little bit of anger but it's also this

44:43

feeling of betrayal. What do you mean betrayal? So

44:46

my husband has been in for almost 18 years. We

44:49

have moved our family cross country,

44:51

cross oceans. We gave so

44:53

much of our life to the Navy for

44:56

them to ignore warnings and then we

44:58

were directly and blatantly lied to

45:00

about it. Navy

45:03

leadership has apologized for the spill but

45:05

has not said that the contaminated water

45:07

is the cause of the ongoing illnesses.

45:11

The Navy did set up a clinic

45:13

on base to collect data and treat

45:15

anyone who believes they have health issues

45:17

related to the tainted water. What

45:20

happens in five or ten or

45:22

fifteen years? Will those services still

45:24

be available to these families? So

45:27

that is part of why

45:30

we are making sure that we're

45:32

collecting that information to inform future

45:34

actions and what the requirements are

45:37

for those types of needs

45:39

and care. That doesn't sound like

45:41

a guarantee of care in the future.

45:44

And I want to be careful because I

45:46

don't do the health care part of things

45:49

and so I don't want to speak outside

45:51

of where I have

45:53

any authority or decision. So

45:56

we followed up with the Defense Department which

45:58

told us it's reviewing the question. of

46:00

long-term health care for military families,

46:03

including more than 3,100 children. Two

46:07

years after the spill, some residents have

46:10

reported water with the smell or sheen. The

46:13

Navy is conducting daily tests at Pearl

46:15

Harbor and says it is confident there

46:17

is no fuel in the tap water. Rachelle

46:21

Dietz is still using bottled water.

46:23

The lawsuit she joined with Brittany

46:25

Traeger and the other military families

46:28

is scheduled to go to trial tomorrow.

46:31

What is the remedy that you want?

46:34

In our family, it's restoring

46:37

my faith in our nation. That's a big thing

46:39

to say. There's a body

46:41

of government that failed. They contaminated our

46:43

water. They lied to us. They did

46:46

not protect us. And they did not

46:48

intervene. And accountability looks like a lifelong

46:50

care plan for me, my family, and

46:53

the people affected. And

46:55

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46:57

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