0:00

We flying into Chicago. To the point,

0:02

the plane is like leaning, you looking,

0:04

we looking down over the buildings in

0:06

Chicago. It's like, what the fuck? Is

0:09

everybody buckling up? Scared,

0:11

you know what I mean? I'm over that, I'm like,

0:14

looking out the window, I'm like, yo, yo, listen,

0:16

we going down, man. We going, it's like, yo,

0:18

Metal South, playing, man. I'm like, yo, now

0:21

I'm telling you, we think it's, yo, listen, it's

0:23

over, man. I'm like, all right, you know, I'm

0:25

trying to psych myself out, like. Yo,

0:29

welcome back to Selfie

0:32

PM at Brooklyn. I'm

0:42

Carmelo Anthony here with my co-host. That's right,

0:44

it's your boy, The Camaro, The Human Do-Rag.

0:46

And when this is a wave sports and

0:48

entertainment original presented by PrizePix, we

0:50

back and we miss y'all last week.

0:53

Joining us here today in Red Hook, we

0:55

in the crib. We got comedian, actor, one

0:57

of the stars of You People on Netflix,

1:00

co-creator, co-star, pause at HBO, star of her

1:02

own comedy series, Street in the Morning, none

1:04

other than international superstar, Sam J. Let's

1:07

go, let's go. What an intro, I appreciate that.

1:09

You know what I'm saying? Oh, let me get

1:11

the cup. Welcome, welcome. Yes sir, thank you, thank

1:13

you. Yo, you might be, you know what I

1:15

mean? You might be one of the best intros.

1:17

That was hard. There was us out there. That

1:19

was hard. God bring you on the road, bro. Thank you, thank you,

1:21

thank you. Meff, Meff bigged you up. Yeah, you know

1:23

what I'm saying? You started memorizing your shit now. You

1:25

know what I mean? I

1:29

got it, I'm gonna be like Michael Buffer by the end of this shit. Yeah,

1:31

that's how I felt a little bit. So speaking of

1:33

wish, man, like you've done some dope

1:36

things, man. You know, we've seen you at

1:38

Madison Square Garden, we've seen you flicking

1:41

it up with Steph, seen

1:43

you in the mix. Like who's somebody

1:45

that came up to you like, damn, I didn't know,

1:48

they knew who the fuck I was. Like

1:51

how the fuck am I here? Like why am I here?

1:54

I don't do that. I was just saying that.

1:56

I was just saying that. You're lying. You're lying. She

2:00

was just I don't want to be a liar before you came

2:02

in I was just saying that we was at the Knicks

2:04

game and you were sitting close to me and I was

2:06

like well That's melon. I kept looking like a little nerd

2:09

like oh shit That's mellow and then

2:11

I got up and I went to move out your way

2:13

Yeah, let me let him buy and he was like yo,

2:15

what up? I'm a fan. I was geek

2:17

and I called my brother I

2:20

appreciate that man feminine. I don't know if you

2:22

notice But I put my

2:24

head fully in your chest. I was like, oh my god

2:27

This is crazy I

2:37

Was one of them moments so I was like this is

2:40

crazy You

2:47

felt feminine as I did you got that you

2:49

got that you got the hands in the chest

2:51

I was like I

3:00

appreciate that That's

3:04

fucking me up right now Expecting

3:06

you to say that no, I'm a

3:08

big basketball fan man I love basketball and

3:11

like I don't know you just always don't

3:13

think I don't know you make shit and just don't think No

3:15

one's watching. It's so weird that you put that in

3:17

your own head. So it was like and

3:20

like my nephew He'll he'll die for

3:23

you. Like seriously, I've

3:25

seen his niggas like bang out in the hood Oh, it's a

3:27

rapper. No, it's like Lose

3:31

his mind Shot

3:39

out the little deep I know if you do not

3:41

play shout out Lordy Yeah, shout out the Lord D

3:43

man. Keep holding it down. I'll do no don't get

3:45

violent and all I

3:48

appreciate the love that word and I see those are people

3:51

that I don't even know that a fan And see

3:53

I come together. Yeah, shout out the Lord D man.

3:56

We're a big basketball family. So it was it was

3:58

a big deal. I appreciate That's a

4:00

lot of conversations and shit that we be having is

4:02

like a lot of New York, Boston. Yes. You know

4:04

what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. That question was coming next.

4:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gon' get

4:10

to that. We gon' get to that. But yo, you

4:12

know what's crazy? Watching you and being a fan, you

4:14

know what I mean? Watching you do you people first

4:17

movie, you know what I'm saying? You was on the carpet

4:19

too. Yeah. That was so nice. Can I say that? You

4:21

know what I'm saying? Me and you on the carpet that

4:23

day. Because you know you be- Hey, I'm gonna be chivin'

4:25

hey, hey. I'm gonna be fucked up in here today. Yeah, yeah. You

4:28

get in these situations and you be all nervous

4:30

and that was like my first movie and my

4:32

first premiere and I'm feeling uncomfortable and

4:34

I'm coming to the carpet and it's like, oh

4:37

shit, it's my man. You know what I'm saying? And it

4:40

just made it like, you know what I'm saying? So it

4:42

was really nice to see you there. Hey, thank you,

4:44

yo. The movie was fire. You did this motherfucking thing

4:47

and first movie, you

4:50

in there with the big dogs, yo. You in

4:52

there with Eddie Murphy, Jonah Hill, you know what

4:54

I'm saying? You in like, Julia Trifis. You made

4:56

it be. Is there any

4:58

type of situation where you was just kind of

5:01

like hanging around and just picked up game? I'm

5:03

gonna do like Eddie Murphy, man. This motherfucker been doing this shit

5:06

for a long time. You know, anytime Eddie

5:08

would talk, we was all just glued. Like,

5:11

anytime we was in like a downtime and

5:13

anything he was saying. But what was so

5:15

dope is he was just talking mostly about life. Like,

5:18

marriage. Like, at the time, Schultz was about to

5:20

get married. He asked Eddie about

5:23

like getting married and like, prenups and all that.

5:25

And Eddie was like, just follow your heart. And

5:27

we would just be, you know, like just vibing

5:29

on some life shit. It wasn't really a lot

5:31

of like, shock talk. There

5:33

was a lot of like talk. And it was the same

5:35

thing with Jonah. Like, because most of my scenes are just me

5:37

and Jonah by ourselves. So we would spend a

5:39

lot of time together. And man,

5:41

I appreciate him so much because he took the time

5:44

to just chat with me. And like,

5:46

I had never done a movie before. I was super

5:48

uncomfortable. I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, I'm about to

5:50

fuck this up because Kenya kind of, he didn't

5:52

set me up. But he would kind of like led me

5:54

to the movie. Like, yo, you want to do this movie?

5:56

I'm like, sure. But do I have to audition? Because I

5:58

suck at auditioning. I'm terrible. I hope these

6:01

tapes never come out. Like, remember that... I hope

6:03

these tapes never come out. You can use those,

6:05

though. You can use those later. Remember that tape

6:07

came out of Marlon Waynes, and everyone was like,

6:09

what the fuck is he doing? Like, I got 80 of those. You feel me? Yeah,

6:12

yeah. So I'm like, please don't let these

6:14

things come to life. But he was like, no, you don't got to audition.

6:16

If you want to do it, you can do it.

6:18

And I was like, cool. And then I find out

6:20

it's like all these stars in the

6:22

movie. I'm thinking it's some little light work. We about to

6:24

play around. And I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah,

6:27

bro, I was nervous. I was nervous.

6:29

I was nervous. I was nervous. So

6:31

Jonah just chatting with me, talking about

6:34

family, like girls, da, da, da, da,

6:36

da. It really helped me just

6:38

be his friend on camera. Because

6:40

we were like talking and chilling off camera. So

6:43

you was looking at Eddie to say some funny shit, or you

6:45

was just... We was looking at Eddie to... We was looking

6:47

at that nigga to be donkey. You know,

6:49

we was like... He said, do it, y'all.

6:54

Y'all shoot that little ass shit. Little

6:58

shit, bro. And he was just like,

7:01

hey, man, stay committed to

7:03

your girl. It was just like

7:05

older guy stuff, which was also

7:08

kind of refreshing, actually. The unk

7:10

vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But

7:12

what Eddie would walk on sale, it was like a

7:15

whole room. He's here, you know?

7:17

That presence is different. Yeah, absolutely.

7:21

It's a whole word. So

7:23

with Jonah, you saying y'all would chat a

7:25

lot. And I see

7:27

that part of the conversation

7:29

that y'all had was about the

7:31

idea of fame. And I'm like, yo, Jonah got the

7:33

long beard now, so he be getting deep on motherfuckers.

7:35

You know what I'm saying? So what was that conversation

7:38

about? Just more like how much

7:40

you can be in control of your

7:42

own shit. Like one thing I

7:45

saw with Jonah is like... He

7:48

just didn't do nothing he didn't want to

7:50

do. And I'm

7:52

like, I didn't allow anything he was uncomfortable with. And some

7:54

people could look at that shit and be like, oh, this

7:56

motherfuckers difficult. But it's like, as a person

7:58

who's been doing this... a

8:00

little bit, you have to start

8:02

taking, you know, precedence

8:05

over yourself, you know what I'm

8:07

saying? And I just saw someone taking onus of themselves

8:09

and being like, like there'll be times they was maybe

8:11

we trying to mic him or something, with dudes going

8:13

all up his shirt and he's done it like four

8:15

or five times and Jonah would just be like, yo,

8:17

you gotta get this right, bro. I'm standing here, you

8:19

got my clothes up. Baby, we

8:22

ain't gonna do this too many more times. You

8:25

know what I mean? And it's like, that's

8:27

valid, bro. Like, I'm

8:29

a human being out here too because you get on these sets,

8:31

bro. People just treat you like a

8:33

piece of property, like a fucking prop that

8:36

they moving around and you're like, yo, you got my

8:38

whole stomach out and I don't know if that's my

8:40

most confident area. It's Kim,

8:42

is anyone in this? It's the word. They try

8:44

to throw some mic on me. You want some

8:46

crazy stuff. Like, come on, bro, I got my

8:48

person, bro. You got me a team, it look

8:50

amazing. And you gotta remind them, word. I'm

8:53

a person, dog. Remember

8:55

that. So he just taught me,

8:57

it's okay to do that in a respectful way, because he

8:59

was never disrespectful, but it was just like, you

9:01

do even in these spaces, gotta create your

9:03

own boundaries and protect yourself. Right,

9:06

because that's true. There's a fine

9:08

line that people have

9:10

with respecting boundaries and then people

9:12

being like, oh, they're an asshole, so and so is

9:14

an asshole. You know what I mean? But it's like,

9:16

like you said, doing it respectfully. You know

9:18

what I'm saying? And sometimes when you do it respectfully, motherfuckers still

9:20

gonna call you an asshole because they didn't

9:22

appreciate that you did it at all, but

9:24

that's not your problem, you know what I'm saying?

9:26

How you navigating that now? Like that,

9:29

just that new level of

9:31

just fame, recognition, going

9:35

to be in different rooms, being in different sets

9:37

now, Jonah Hill,

9:41

Eddie Murphy, those are different type of rooms

9:43

and sets to be on. I just try

9:45

to stay myself, really.

9:47

I just try to stay myself. Is it hard?

9:50

Yeah, sometimes, sometimes for sure. Sometimes I'm

9:52

just mad uncomfortable. Don't talk about it

9:54

all, I'm being like corny. Like one

9:56

time. That's crazy. One time,

9:58

oh. Don't forget to tell them where it is. I'm not

10:00

gonna be corny. Like I know I'm being

10:02

on some like corny little weird fan shit, but I

10:05

don't, I can't, there's a switch to stop it.

10:07

It's just like the train's out

10:09

the building. And I did it like

10:11

one time bro, I was, I was

10:13

with Dave. We was, we

10:15

was touring. Dave had took me on tour with

10:17

him. He was doing arena tour. We was in

10:19

Toronto. It was the

10:22

night that Yay and Drake has

10:24

supposedly made up. And then

10:26

we, we go. I

10:29

mean, whatever, when we go to this party

10:32

at Drake's house and I'm a Drake fan,

10:34

I ain't gonna hold you. I'm a Drake fan.

10:36

I love Drake. So I'm like, whoa,

10:38

we're going to like the OVO mansion. This

10:40

is crazy. I'm walking through the shit. I'm like, this

10:43

crazy. I'm like,

10:45

we in this shit bro. This crazy

10:47

bro. And Drake's just walking around. Yay's just

10:50

walking around. And I'm also high as shit

10:52

on Molly. Like I'm like, I'm

10:54

in the stars bro. Whoa.

10:57

High. Rolling, rolling. High and Drake's

11:00

over in his corner. He playing his game. It's somewhere

11:02

with dice game. I never seen, all is on me.

11:04

You know what I'm saying? And I walk over

11:06

just, I'm trying to see it. And

11:08

then I tap Drake and I'm like, yo, what is

11:10

this? He looked at me like, nigga,

11:15

who are you and get the fuck away from me? And

11:19

my eyes look Molly. I know. And

11:21

I'm like, I look like I'm geeky. This nigga like,

11:23

what the fuck? And he like, it's an Asian

11:26

dice game. And then I

11:28

was like, part of my brain

11:30

was like, go away. This

11:32

is, we're done with this. But the other part

11:34

was like, what part of Asia? Oh. You

11:39

tell me. I

11:41

hope you don't remember that shit. That's all I was thinking

11:43

about. Like, wherever I be, this is good news. I don't

11:45

remember though. Cause it was, I felt bad. Nigga.

11:49

How do you remember on the Molly's though? I'm

11:52

pretty good on drugs, man. I'm

11:55

pretty good on drugs. You're mad at me. You're mad at me?

11:57

Mad at me on drugs? You're mad at me? I'm

11:59

pretty good on drugs. This is an unfortunate truth.

12:01

Oh my God. Shit. Well,

12:04

ain't nobody ever going to catch me, dog. I'm like, nah,

12:07

I'm in every detail. I'm like, shit. You

12:09

caught yourself, though. Yeah, I did. I walked

12:11

away. I said, what part of Asia? I

12:13

just left. I didn't even wait for the answer. I

12:15

was like, go. You already know you

12:17

was gone at that point. Yeah, I was

12:19

like. We done here? Yeah. But

12:21

that's happening. You know, it happens. It happens. That's

12:24

why I give people grace. Because it's like, bro. Yeah,

12:27

yeah. You never know, man. I'm like, I'm going to

12:29

fuck up. I'm going to catch me off, bro. Sometimes

12:32

I'm too hot not to be a fan. I'm

12:34

like, yeah. You catch me at the airport catching

12:36

that 9 o'clock flight, bro. I'm smack. You

12:39

never know, bro. You never know. You

12:41

never know. You're crazy. You're crazy.

12:43

You're crazy. 7PM

12:47

in Brooklyn is our show title, you know what I mean?

12:49

And the bodies with the show is and

12:51

what we're curating out here, what we're making. You

12:54

know what I mean? It's also the first year.

12:56

So your first year retired. And a long part

12:58

of your life. Graduation, man. I graduated. Yes, that's

13:00

right. Graduation. Yeah, not every time. Graduation. You

13:03

know what I'm saying? You said you don't put 40 on

13:05

your head, nigga. That's a fact. 40

13:07

at 40 is crazy. It's

13:15

the first year of graduation. 7PM

13:17

was, as a Knicks fan, I know

13:19

7PM was like, hey, this time the lights is coming on.

13:21

You know what I mean? It's time to lock in. Time

13:24

to go be, be mellow. You know what I

13:26

mean? So the moment you go in there

13:28

and lock in your buckets, you know what I'm saying? So in

13:30

honor of that, we try something new. You know what I'm saying?

13:32

As host, we got to go first. You know what I'm saying?

13:35

Looking back at our individual stories, you know what

13:37

I'm saying? Tell me about a time or

13:40

a specific instance that helped you lock in. You

13:42

know what I mean? Like to your ultimate

13:44

goal. You know what I mean? And become mellow.

13:47

Bam. I know that's- That's

13:49

the 7PMs? This is new. Yeah, yeah.

13:52

It was, it was a... Bam.

13:57

You fucked me up with that question. like

14:01

this. It was a couple moments, right?

14:04

It was a high school moment where

14:06

I had to figure out, am

14:09

I going to stay in B-more or am

14:12

I going to do something, give

14:14

it a try. So

14:17

it was either Oak Hill or stay in B-more at the

14:19

time. And I was kind of like forced

14:21

out but didn't understand why but I

14:23

was, you're going to Oak Hill, get

14:25

away, can't stay here, this is danger

14:28

zone. So because of

14:30

that, I had to snap in like, all

14:32

right, this is the, this is that

14:34

moment where I got to really, really lock in. I got

14:36

to embrace being at Oak Hill. I got to embrace, shit

14:39

was like, I don't know how it is

14:42

now but back then, it's

14:44

a boarding school, you know what I'm saying? So you just, people

14:46

from all over the world, kids from all over the world

14:49

is just being dropped

14:51

off, parents leaving, shutting the door,

14:53

kids chasing after the car, like, you know what I

14:55

mean? We was on the yard. It's

15:02

something Matilda school. We was on the yard, you

15:04

know what I'm saying? We had a yellow line,

15:06

a white line, I separated the girls from the

15:08

guys. So it was crazy

15:11

back then. So I had to get my mind wrapped

15:13

around being out there

15:15

in that environment. But I was awake, that was a

15:17

wake up moment. Going through

15:19

a bunch of shit that I was going through

15:21

early on in my career, off the court shit,

15:24

fights, charges,

15:27

DVDs, and you

15:30

know what I mean? Like it was, I had to like, come

15:33

to a moment, but I still didn't want to

15:35

from 04 to 07

15:38

was when I was going through all my

15:40

shit and dealing with every single thing, but

15:42

still trying to navigate doing what I got

15:44

to do on the court. So

15:47

that's a, that's a crazy compartmentalization right

15:49

there. You know what I mean? I'm

15:51

going through, I had a DVD stop

15:54

snitching at the time. You know what I mean?

15:56

It was a fight in the

15:58

garden. It was a fight outside. out

16:00

in the streets in the club, it was just a

16:02

lot of shit. Marijuana charges, like it

16:04

was a lot of shit going on. So

16:07

it came in 08 that come

16:09

to Jesus moment they say is like,

16:13

I got to fucking, I got to do something. Obama

16:16

was coming in the chair, right? This

16:18

is 08, you know, I had cut my braids.

16:21

So I'm like, let me try to give it a

16:23

new identity to it. I'm going

16:25

to change the lives. Yeah, that's a fact.

16:27

Shout out to him. So

16:29

at that moment, I

16:32

used that as motivation, like I'm a, I'm

16:35

a change. Like it's time for change. Right.

16:37

I knew Olympics was coming. I already had a

16:39

bad rap going into the Olympics and

16:41

08 where I was, I wasn't going to be on the

16:44

team and 08 because

16:46

of all everything that I was going, going to.

16:49

So I had to prove every single day why

16:52

I belong on a team, even in the games

16:55

with the Nuggets, I had to really prove to

16:58

USA, like, yo, I'm deserving to be on

17:00

fuck everything that's going off on the court.

17:02

I'm still tapped and I'm still locked in.

17:05

So that was the moment. Right.

17:08

And then I was

17:11

like, we played Kobe in

17:13

them that next year, or that

17:15

year that oh nine. And

17:17

that was the moment. Like, I'm here. Like this is my

17:19

time to, I got, I got to

17:21

use this to go forward. You know what

17:23

I mean? A lot of put you in those places for

17:26

no reason. You feel me? So he put me in

17:28

that moment. This is what you could

17:31

be. This is the beginning of what you should be

17:33

doing. So that 08 moment was a

17:36

real pivotal moment.

17:39

And then another moment was when

17:41

I got let go by Houston. That

17:44

was the moment where I'm like,

17:46

you got a man up and figure this

17:48

shit out. But I had help. I

17:50

had to get help. I had to go get people. I had to

17:52

talk to, I had to get away. I had to go Arizona

17:55

and be by myself and really lock in

17:57

and all of that.

18:01

So those was like three pivotal

18:04

moments of like, it's

18:06

time to lock in. That's

18:09

deep, that's a lot of shit, but this is 15, 16, maybe 17 years of

18:11

my career. Until

18:19

after the Houston situation, where I got

18:21

peace, I was like, I'm at peace.

18:24

Like whatever happens from here,

18:26

I'm playing with the house money. And

18:29

that was my approach. I

18:32

don't know if you can top that shit. I

18:34

was like, you know what, I'm also not top

18:36

tennis court in the NBA. So we got to

18:39

become some of those. You know what I'm saying?

18:41

Nah, but you know what it was for me, it was

18:43

simple for me, man. It was just like, it

18:46

was necessity, B. You know what I'm saying? Because

18:49

like I'm working, you know

18:51

what I mean? At a school, at a public school, you know

18:53

what I'm saying? As a teacher's assistant, you know what I'm saying?

18:55

I ain't even making, I'm making like 18,000 a year after

18:59

tax type shit. And

19:01

the hood's struggling, you know what I'm saying? Doing a little,

19:03

one, two thing on the side, just

19:05

to like, you know what I mean? Have the necessary

19:07

shit. So, you know,

19:09

me and my girl, you know what I mean? We

19:11

talking about, we got a baby on the way, you

19:13

know what I'm saying? First son is born, now

19:16

it's like, all right bro, he the

19:18

zone, my nigga, you gotta start making

19:20

money for real. So it's just like, you know how

19:22

it is, bro, when you growing up, it's

19:24

the old kill moment, bro. It's like, you gonna go this way, or you

19:26

gonna go this way? So to me, you know,

19:29

writing and comedy, I got a

19:31

couple licks, I had a couple licks writing for people, you

19:33

know what I'm saying? And then just like, seeing

19:36

that, writing up my

19:38

own block, victory, like shout out to everybody that read

19:40

that. And then the rappers and celebrities,

19:42

all the people that was tapping in, I

19:45

was like, hold on, you know what I'm saying? Like the same thing

19:47

you was talking about where you're like, yo, I don't realize, like,

19:49

oh, like, I'm just putting this shit out there, cause I

19:51

think, you know what I mean? I'm just trying to make

19:53

some cool shit that hopefully people vibe with. But

19:56

then when you see who's vibing with it, you're like,

19:58

oh shit, bro, like. This

20:00

thing is on tour reading my shit. Like, you know what

20:02

I mean? That's crazy. So that was one

20:04

moment. And it was

20:06

one of the first people was Wale. Matter of fact, Wale

20:09

reached out to me. He was just like, he's like, yo,

20:11

DM me. Yo, here's my math. Ah, ah.

20:14

Your shit is you write your writing style as Larry's does

20:16

that. With exchange

20:18

info. He's like, yo, come to

20:20

the album release for ambition. I'm

20:23

just about to drop. So I go out there, set the games

20:25

of war. My nigga, I have never been. I'm

20:27

from the Bronx, bro. You never been outside the Bronx. I

20:29

ain't never been to know. I'm not the Bronx. You know

20:31

what I mean? Like, I've been outside the Bronx, like, real

20:34

quick, in and out. You know what I mean? So

20:36

I go up there, and I'm like, bro, it's like,

20:38

I'm seeing. You know what I mean? Because you grow up listening

20:40

to hip hop. You know what I mean? Like, you see all these

20:42

motherfuckers, it's like, you know what I mean? It's

20:45

like, oh, shit, that's me? I'm

20:47

like, yo, that's Uncle Murder. You know what I'm saying,

20:49

man? You can feel me? Like, yo, that's sad. You

20:51

know what I'm saying? This one, that's that one. So

20:54

and he was taking me around and just introducing me

20:56

to people on some shit. And I

20:58

felt like, oh, he's introducing me to these people as

21:00

peers. You know what I mean? He's not

21:02

introducing me like, yo, I'm putting my man on. A'ight. He's

21:04

like, yo, this motherfucker right here, yo. He's

21:06

one of the funniest motherfuckers out there, da, da, da. And

21:09

I was just like, yo, he told J.

21:11

Cole this shit. Like, you know what I mean? So

21:13

that moment was when I felt like, yo, a'ight, bro, you can really

21:15

do this shit. You know what I mean? Like, you can really, this

21:18

could be what you do to provide for your

21:20

family. Because that was like, that was the mission, yo, was

21:22

to provide. Yeah, it's being serious. And that's what I did.

21:25

And I started MTV. I called my principal at the time.

21:27

And it was like the last day before you could sign up. You know

21:29

what I mean? And get all your papers in and all that. And

21:32

I was like, yo, I was like, Miss Jones, I was

21:34

like, yo, I love you, but I ain't coming back.

21:37

She's like, what the fuck you mean? You ain't coming

21:39

back, motherfucker. That's that Harlem nice moment. Yeah, you know

21:41

what I'm saying? That was what you want with the

21:43

phone. Yeah, with the

21:46

phone. Bank on. Bank

21:48

on. Bank on. Oh, man.

21:50

And she said, man, she said. Y'all

21:52

swear to God I had a flip phone. She goes,

21:54

yo, I know you fucking lying. I

21:56

know you're coming back. Stop playing with me. I said, y'all swear to

21:58

God I got a job, but then she. I'm

22:00

over here writing, doing things, whatever. And

22:03

she's just like, whatever. So I go and I

22:05

go like this, because I was on the 26th floor of

22:07

1515 Broadway, right in

22:10

the middle of Times Square. You see the Hudson

22:12

River, all them cruise ships, I took a selfie

22:14

like that and I sent it to her. She

22:16

called me back, she was like, motherfucker.

22:18

She was like, good luck, bitch. Sat

22:20

down with Joseph. After

22:22

that, it was just like, I'm on Go

22:25

Mode from there and be like, I'm locking

22:27

in, be like, this is... That's

22:29

when I started writing every day. Even if it was

22:31

like a sentence, a thought, a

22:33

log line, a one sheet, whatever it

22:35

was, it's like, yo, write, create something.

22:38

Or work on something that you already started to

22:40

create, so that you keep that juice just

22:43

going. And keep

22:45

the bash coming in. Yo,

22:48

that part. That

22:50

part. Now we gotta shift it. You know what I

22:52

mean? Now we gotta shift it. You know what I

22:54

mean? That's every PM moment. What's going on? Nah, honestly,

22:56

what was that? What was that shift for you? I

22:58

think it is. just

23:01

floating through life. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't really doing

23:03

shit. And I'm getting older, you know what I'm saying? Like,

23:08

yo, shit is crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.

23:11

It's crazy. It's crazy. It's

23:13

crazy. It's

23:15

crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's

23:17

crazy. I'm

23:19

getting older and I'm like, bro,

23:22

you a fucking loser. Like I'm starting to have a

23:24

bad conversation with myself. Like, yo, shit

23:26

is crazy. Like, yo, yo, yo,

23:28

you're not doing anything. You working

23:30

these bullshit jobs. Like, how do

23:33

you expect to really have or amount to

23:35

what you see for yourself on

23:37

this path that you want type? Questions, I'm asking

23:39

myself. And in the midst of that, I

23:41

end up getting a fucking situation, losing my apartment.

23:43

I'm sleeping on my homie couch. She

23:46

got a roommate, but I never see this dude. He's

23:48

just never home. He's always working. One night

23:50

I come in late. He come in late. It's

23:53

a nigga that used to sleep on my couch. So I'm

23:55

like, whoa. Wait a minute. Like, I'm

23:57

getting a fucking problem. And

24:00

the full like retro stack, like,

24:02

God damn, you are blowing it.

24:05

So I go home. I'm

24:07

like, I gotta go back to

24:09

Boston. I gotta recalibrate everything about

24:11

what I'm doing. And

24:14

I really gotta figure out what I wanna do and like

24:17

put myself out there, like, and stop being

24:19

afraid. And I go home and

24:21

I started doing open mics. And that's how I got

24:23

into standup. So that was like one of the first like,

24:26

lock in. And I was like, yo, just put your head

24:28

down for a year and do these

24:31

mics. And if you're further along than

24:33

you were when you started, put your head down for

24:35

another year and do these mics. And that's kind

24:37

of how I broke it up. Cause I was like, yo, you've spent years

24:40

doing way less. You wasted so much time. What's

24:43

a year to give to this? It's kind of how I looked at it.

24:46

And then the other moment is when I got

24:48

JFL. JFL is like

24:50

one of the biggest comic sessions in the world. And

24:53

then I got new faces, which is like, everybody

24:55

comes out. The whole industry comes out to watch this

24:58

particular showcase. It's kind of like the staple

25:00

of JFL. Everyone comes out to see.

25:02

That's Jokes for Life. Jokes for Life. Yeah,

25:04

to see like the new comics. You know what

25:06

I'm saying? So if you get new faces, they're kind of just

25:08

saying like, these are the new people that are gonna kind of

25:10

come through the industry. It's a lottery pick. And even a lottery

25:13

pick. You feel me? And all the agents come out to see

25:15

like, what's up with you? And.

25:17

Like a pre-draft. They're all there.

25:19

Yeah. The agents of the scouts, they in the

25:21

audience watching you. Like a delivery. The agents, scouts,

25:23

everything, boom, boom, boom. Like networks,

25:26

everybody is there. And

25:29

I was like, bro, this

25:31

is my moment to just show everybody

25:33

all at once that I'm

25:36

for real with this shit. Like I do this

25:38

shit. I'm not playing around. And

25:41

so I just went and I

25:43

think they was like, everybody got 10. I think I

25:45

did like 17 minutes, but I

25:47

just went and I just like fucking

25:50

killed that shit. I'm not, I rarely say

25:52

I killed something. Body that shit. Like

25:54

on some crazy shit. They

26:00

talked about that new faze performance that I did for

26:02

like three, four years straight every

26:04

time JFL happened. I was with my

26:06

manager right after it. Her phone wouldn't

26:09

stop buzzing. People that

26:11

weren't at the show were texting her like, yo, I

26:13

just heard Sam bodied

26:15

that shit. Like I went black out.

26:17

Cause I was like, this is the time. This is

26:19

the time where everything could change. If

26:21

I do this right here, right now, right, I could

26:24

change my whole fucking life in this moment. And

26:26

I knew that. And I got a S&L off that. That's how

26:28

I edited it right. And for S&L, it was from that new

26:31

faces. Okay. So it

26:33

did absolutely change everything.

26:35

That's crazy. Yeah. Comedy,

26:37

everything kind of worked that same way. Like comedy, basketball, it's

26:39

all like you be feeling like you're with your draft class

26:41

and you be feeling like all that same. I

26:45

want to know that. Is that like in

26:47

every industry is like that? I've never,

26:49

I've never heard of it. Anyone

26:51

else? I guess cause it's just sports, but like

26:54

the draft or like not even the draft,

26:57

the pre draft camp or

26:59

the combine. Yeah, you have your classes.

27:01

So you have your comedy classes and

27:04

all that and agents and everybody comes

27:06

to one location. And

27:09

just for last is just that. It's like a

27:11

combine. You know what I'm saying? Pretty much. Cause

27:13

like I'm saying, like, cause I went up there, I got, you

27:15

know what I'm saying? I'm saying, come on baby. You know what

27:17

I'm saying? Okay. You know what I'm saying?

27:20

Okay. You know what I mean? It's

27:23

like you go out there and it's just like, yo, you want to, it's like the

27:25

all the American game be like, I want to drop

27:27

50 and be an NBC at this bitch bro, because

27:29

they're going to be talking about this for the next

27:31

couple of years. Be like my set that

27:33

I came through with, if I smoked it, you

27:36

would have that class straight up. And

27:39

back in the day, like it used to be

27:41

like the Seinfeld days used to

27:43

leave with a TV show. If you really killed

27:45

new faces, they'd be like, yo, so it

27:48

used to be like that. It used to be that

27:50

crazy. Straight to the back. How could

27:52

we, how could that come back though? That ain't coming

27:54

back. It ain't coming back. It

27:57

used to be like the landscape is

27:59

so different. Yeah, the old school plan was like,

28:01

the science will tell you shit. I'm not, I can't

28:03

accept that. So, I can't accept it, it

28:05

can't happen. So let me, let's, I'll tell you how,

28:07

and then you tell me like, if the solution, you

28:09

know what I'm saying? Because I think about this shit

28:11

all the time. Because I would love for it to

28:13

come back. Again, I'm naive to this, I don't know

28:15

what's happening, I'm really interested in trying to get to

28:17

understand it. So the strikes and all that shit that

28:20

happened, a lot of it, I'm simplifying it, but like,

28:22

you know, just so, you know what I mean? So

28:24

I don't get too long winded with it, but it's

28:26

basically, it was like, a lot of it was about residuals,

28:28

which is like, yo, the money that you get after you

28:31

do them, it ain't a one time thing. Like yo, boom,

28:33

I sold you the dime, you give me 10, that's it,

28:35

I'll never see you again, that's it. It's like, yo,

28:38

I licensed this to you for

28:41

X amount of time or whatever the, whatever your deal

28:43

you got, there's something in

28:45

there where, whenever that airs somewhere else,

28:47

what is? Well, because they make

28:49

money off commercials, and that's how they're making the

28:51

money, right? If I write a show, and then

28:54

you paid me for the show, but you're still running the

28:57

show, so you're still making money off commercials every time the

28:59

show. So the show is still making money, like SNL's still

29:01

making money. So I still get a percentage of that. To

29:03

this day, I haven't realized in four years, I still get

29:05

residual texts, when episodes that I wrote

29:07

on air, because they're still

29:09

making active bread off of

29:12

those episodes, and new revenue off of

29:14

those episodes. So the argument was like,

29:16

residuals when it comes to streamers, because

29:18

that relationship isn't there, right? There are

29:20

no commercials. So, but you are still

29:22

running my product over and over again,

29:24

and making money. So now how do

29:26

we break down that money? And that's

29:29

basically kind of the root of the

29:31

strike. But the strike fucked up

29:33

the bread all around. It slowed down on

29:35

the bread, right? The strike pulls everybody out

29:37

of the business. The bread got slowed down.

29:40

A big corporation, they ain't never gonna take

29:42

no L. Like I don't give a fuck

29:44

what you yelling about on the ground floor.

29:46

If Fox lose money, they figure out a way to

29:48

recoup that money. The way they recoup that

29:50

money, we gonna make less shows. We

29:53

gonna zone in on the cover. Bank,

29:56

you know what I'm saying? So that kind

29:58

of, you know, eliminates. like

30:00

that kind of like ability

30:02

and it's been going on even before the strike

30:04

of taking those risks, right? Also,

30:07

a lot of these tech companies got

30:09

into entertainment, right? You got Netflix, you got

30:11

all these people. They're not, they're not entertainment

30:13

companies, they're tech companies. So they don't like losing

30:15

the money the same way. Motherfuckers who get into

30:17

Hollywood, they're gambling. They like gambling. They like gambling

30:20

on the talent. They like gambling on the product.

30:22

Let's see if we make the money. We might

30:24

not make the money. They're willing to take these

30:26

ups and downs. A tech company is like, bro,

30:29

money all the time. We know the

30:32

P&L. Bang.

30:34

So that kind of eliminated that part

30:37

of it. Yeah. No, I'm definitely comprehended. I

30:42

think there should be opportunity to your point. Like

30:44

not even about the strike is like you

30:47

take in, whether it's the last

30:49

for, just for last, right? If

30:52

you take in a company, like,

30:54

I don't know, just say a

30:56

Tubi, right? And

30:59

do a partnership with just

31:01

for last and Tubi where the top

31:03

people that come out of that class, they

31:05

get automatic, you know, shows

31:08

or get a chance to write some,

31:10

develop some shows, write concepts or whatever.

31:12

So I do think there's,

31:14

there's opportunity that can happen. And

31:17

that's a different way of doing, you

31:19

know, doing business in the content curation

31:21

world, because we can't be sitting

31:23

here like I'm in a content curation.

31:25

Y'all do what y'all do. Like we

31:28

can't be sitting here like not, there's no, there's

31:30

no solution to this. There's no way. Like we

31:32

just need that we need that we need those

31:34

companies like the Tubi's

31:36

and the, and, you know, the Rokus

31:38

and, you know, other, other worlds, like

31:40

these new emerging, you know, tech

31:42

companies, like we need

31:45

to partner with them. We need to

31:47

do more deals with them and collaborations

31:49

and allow pipelines for younger generation, younger

31:51

artists, younger, younger creatives to

31:53

be able to tap into. There's no way that

31:56

that shit is not supportive, but everybody comes through

31:58

that shit. Right. And get the. education because

32:00

I'm like a lot of people because they don't know

32:02

a pathway to get the education. So like why not

32:04

just make the thing on my own, learn on my

32:06

own, figure it out on my own. But it's like

32:08

you, you miss so much. You know what I mean?

32:10

Like going to SNL taught me so

32:13

much. That was an education. It was a

32:15

college in a lot of ways of how

32:17

to write television, how to make television. And

32:19

like people need that as well. Like so

32:22

it is like that bridge. You ain't wrong. Melo

32:24

solid bro. Melo solid bro.

32:27

Maybe it was us. But not to me. Get them

32:29

down there. It

32:32

is opportunity. But like, like you saying, like

32:34

that's not just those data culture. Well, I

32:36

just don't think people was thinking like that.

32:38

Nobody is like, no, let me go talk

32:40

to Tubi. Bridge this gap

32:43

between is, you know, these new comics and these

32:45

new creators and these new writers bridges

32:47

gap. Let me get them

32:49

opportunity. Let me give them a platform because

32:52

the big issue is of course is money, but

32:55

also the issues distribution. Where does, where

32:57

platform is just going to land at? Where is

32:59

this going to live at? And getting people to

33:01

say people. Absolutely. Yes, sir. Absolutely. But to Sam's

33:04

point, that's the shit. Like a lot of these

33:06

execs, man, they not willing to take

33:08

a shot on a movie that's like, okay, this is,

33:10

this is not an Avengers movie. You know

33:12

what I'm saying? Like this is something that's like a new

33:15

emerging artists or something like that. You know,

33:17

it's good standpoint. Then they will put the money behind

33:20

it. They also call that diversity money after the

33:22

strike. So the first thing that

33:25

went was black people stuff. That's the first thing

33:27

when people of color, this first people, gay people,

33:29

that was the first thing they took off the

33:31

slate. We're going, we're going to kill all the

33:33

diversity stuff. So you got

33:36

a nuanced black story. They're

33:38

like, how is this going to make us? We

33:40

heard this already. We saw this already. Also, how they're going to

33:42

make us the same amount of money that Yellowstone is going to

33:44

make us. But we know the majority of the country is like,

33:47

we have to remember what are the minority. You know

33:49

what I'm saying? They're like the majority of the country

33:51

is Yellowstone in, we know we can

33:53

make money with Yellowstone. You telling this unique

33:55

story about a kid from Brooklyn. Yeah. How

33:58

much money we actually give into this. which

34:00

is why East is right and all

34:02

these people are right. We gotta start now that we really

34:04

have the bread and we've achieved to these levels, we have

34:06

to start supporting ourselves and we have to start supporting our

34:09

own stories. We have to start risking

34:11

our own money because that's the thing. You

34:13

can't keep begging another motherfucker to spend his

34:15

money on your dreams. Absolutely. Yeah. And supporting each

34:17

other. Exactly. Supporting each

34:19

other is the key. Word and putting up

34:22

our bread for each other. We keep saying

34:24

as a collective of people of color and disenfranchised,

34:26

we wanna see more of this and we wanna

34:28

see more. We wanna spend. That's the fact.

34:30

Tune. That's the shit. And that's what we

34:33

was talking about off camera is just like, all right,

34:35

you got your audience, I got my audience, you got

34:37

your audience. If we all collab

34:39

and do something, every audience

34:41

is coming. You know what I'm saying? is

34:43

familiar with you, people that wasn't familiar with me is familiar

34:46

with me and vice versa. You know what I

34:48

mean? And it's just like, it's like an ecosystem. You know what

34:50

I'm saying? And that's, to me, that's where media is going,

34:52

bro, where it's just like, everything is kinda like, you

34:55

know what I mean? Almost like democratic, bro. Like you choose

34:57

what the fuck you wanna watch. It

34:59

ain't yo go. All a cart. Yeah, straight up. It ain't go home

35:01

at eight o'clock cause you're watching this and this is it. You know

35:03

what I mean? You got three choices at eight o'clock. It's all a

35:05

cart. Now it's like, whatever,

35:07

B. And I tell people all the time, my kids come home,

35:10

they turn the TV on, and they don't

35:12

go to a channel, bro. It's pow, YouTube. You know

35:14

what I'm saying? So I'm just like, yo, listen, shit

35:16

is changing. But these kids are sick, though. We

35:19

can't do nothing about these kids. My niece come

35:21

home and she watch other people play on

35:23

YouTube. That shit broke. I don't even know what these

35:25

kids are doing. She'll

35:28

watch other people play for hours. I'm

35:30

like, bro, you don't wanna play yourself, bro. You watch cartoons,

35:32

though. We

35:35

should watch cartoons like that. Yeah, but I'm not watching

35:37

somebody else play a video game. That was crazy, cause

35:39

now my stuff, I'm not gonna just motherfucker

35:41

like, bro, are you a stockbroker? You

35:43

got three monitors, B. You watching them motherfucker play

35:45

a video game while you play a video game

35:47

at a motherfucker's booth. You watching somebody else stream.

35:49

You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, this

35:51

shit is crazy, bro. They'll watch somebody else go

35:54

outside. They'll be like, just go. Like,

35:56

yo, I'm in the rain. What the fuck is this? And they're

35:58

all aware of my knees and my nose. When I had paused,

36:01

I brought them to New York. I gave them

36:03

a job on set. I'm like, cool,

36:05

nepotism for black people, I believe in it. Rock on

36:07

the Bay. So I'm like, hire my niece

36:09

and my nephew. They doing PA shit. They got like,

36:12

getting like a $3,500 check a week. Freshman.

36:16

Love. They got unlimited Uber account.

36:19

Oh, they going ham. No, they're not going ham,

36:21

because these little kids is weird. Oh, that's the

36:23

point. Bro, they hanging around me. Where

36:26

are we going? What are we, there will be a little

36:28

suburb kids getting dragged off and picked up. I'm like,

36:30

you're in New York City with a check and

36:33

unlimited Uber. Go outside, make me

36:35

worry about you. Don't miss it. Go

36:38

missing. Make me nervous, cuz. What

36:40

are you doing? Yeah, you're nervous, cuz. What

36:42

are you doing? You all

36:45

just hanging around me? Where do you ever

36:47

need to go? So y'all look weird. Yeah,

36:49

when a slave came out, that bawcess just

36:51

came out. Come on, guys. Come on, guys.

36:53

Oh, you know that bawcess. People don't know

36:55

that bawcess. Come on, guys. Come on, guys.

36:57

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37:00

are you talking about? That's

37:02

how they are. At the end

37:04

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37:06

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37:54

to the show. First weekend

37:57

of the March madness went down over

37:59

the weekend. I mean like we

38:01

see every year you know I mean

38:03

they got real got real yeah

38:05

she got super real Kentucky took

38:08

it out to Oakland you know what I mean which

38:10

is kind of crazy for Jack Calipari his

38:12

homie has made Jack Jack

38:14

Jack Jack Jack Jack I was

38:16

called a doctor they take

38:20

out the player but he made

38:22

the players motherfuckers sweet 16 since 2015 the

38:24

part and

38:28

the final force is 2015 and the sweet 16 since 2019

38:30

so it's been a while you know what

38:34

I mean and you know he didn't win a

38:36

chance he got one chance yeah fuck this final

38:38

force sweet 16 he

38:40

got one but he didn't get but go finish I'm sorry go

38:43

ahead and I'm about to speak on it though because it's like

38:45

you've been there to the top Natty champ you

38:47

know what I'm saying is it the same bro like is

38:49

it it's hard man is it like yo sweet 16 at

38:52

the matter what the fuck we was talking about this

38:54

shit is difficult to do and

38:56

it's and it's hard man it's hard

38:58

get I said it's hard getting to

39:00

the NBA it's hard as

39:02

a freshman coming into college and

39:05

being dominant that's why those who do

39:07

it they stand out you know what

39:10

I'm saying it's hard because you coming in situations

39:13

that already have upperclassmen

39:15

already gosh who's been there girls who's

39:17

been there two three years already right

39:19

they thinking about what's about

39:21

to happen they thinking differently they don't grow man

39:24

time that type of

39:26

shit junior year you don't grow man

39:28

time and that's what you have J

39:30

right the Villanova coach he said the same kind

39:32

of like you know I'm saying the same

39:34

type of vibe he said yo the era of taking

39:37

these young freshmen and trying to play against all the

39:39

players is over I think he did

39:41

a phenomenal job with these guys all year getting them

39:43

to be as successful as they were you can see

39:45

they playing against grown men though the guys

39:47

in Kentucky will be far better pros than any of

39:49

these guys on Oakland or any of these guys in

39:51

the tournament but they're not as good

39:54

college basketball players which is that's

39:56

the question I got for you because like what

39:58

like we know a good

40:00

NBA player when we see one. But what's

40:02

the jump like? You know what I'm saying?

40:05

You knew, like, yo fam, I'm going top

40:08

three early. I'm going number two. For

40:11

those guys that are making that leap that are not

40:13

so sure, what's that like? Because it's a

40:15

different. So I'm putting it in

40:17

perspective. I came out of high school as

40:20

the number one player in the

40:22

country. I went to

40:24

Q's with three other

40:26

freshmen. We had like

40:28

three, four sophomore, three sophomore, something like that. And

40:30

we had like a couple upper class, like seniors,

40:33

juniors, and seniors. I

40:36

wasn't the McDonald's All-American on campus

40:39

when I stepped foot there. Like, I knew I

40:41

was nice. I knew I'm coming ahead and the

40:44

possibility of what can happen. I

40:46

didn't know we could win it because that shit is

40:48

just unheard of, like freshmen coming in at that time.

40:51

So when I get there, I still have to

40:53

prove to the nigga that's on the team. Like

40:57

I had beef with a

40:59

senior on the team, my big man on the team.

41:02

Because I, he's so. I'm going to lift that up.

41:04

I'm going to find out the name. Jeremy McNeil. Oh,

41:06

OK. Thank you. Shout out to Jeremy McNeil. Absolutely big

41:08

perm. When I stepped on campus, I had to, he

41:11

was the, you know, he was the shot block of the big

41:13

nigga who'd been there that who was holding

41:15

shit down from San Antonio, Texas. So he had

41:17

a different type of horror about himself. You know

41:19

what I'm saying? So when I step on campus,

41:23

I got to prove myself still. I'm

41:26

being shunned. Come on, man. You can't you can't hang

41:28

with us. You know, you

41:31

ain't with us. Like you ain't proven everything

41:34

is on paper. So

41:37

when I see it, right. So when I get there, I'm

41:40

feeling the energy. But

41:43

why this nigga don't fuck with me? Oh, what the fuck

41:45

is wrong with you? You

41:48

know what? God, we go play

41:51

for the season again. You pick up. Power

41:54

shit on me. Ball. You

41:57

know what I call again.

42:00

Foul me bone. Coming to the hole.

42:04

Young ass nigga. Young ass nigga man you ain't

42:06

ready for this shit like that. So now I'm

42:08

being, I don't know

42:10

I'm being tested. I'm fresh out. You

42:12

know what I'm saying? Nigga no you

42:14

not. Like what the fuck you mean?

42:16

Yo you found me again it's on and popping. Like

42:18

whatever it is it's gonna be whatever it is. Going

42:22

back and forth nigga hit me

42:24

with a scream. Boom. I'm gonna

42:28

kill this nigga like I'm he's 6'9",

42:33

6'10", and he's a brollick.

42:35

Like, I got something for

42:37

you. So once you come back I got

42:39

something for you. So my mind, at that

42:42

point, but I wasn't understanding it. Right?

42:45

So my point is, once

42:47

I had once I proven myself, he

42:51

came to me like yo, I

42:54

fucks with you. Right? You

42:57

ain't shy your way you ain't back. I

42:59

said nigga I feel like I'm in the yard.

43:01

I'm like I'm in the big right now nigga

43:03

you were testing me like that. Shit could have

43:05

went down. Like I

43:08

called my brother, I called all I called brothers cousins.

43:10

Yo this nigga I got I listen I'm

43:12

gonna get in trouble cuz I don't know if I can

43:15

beat this nigga like that but what

43:17

we doing? Show up.

43:19

Get what I'm

43:22

saying? How many be on the same shit? Right?

43:24

So I'm gonna spin it back but it's

43:26

like my point is I had

43:29

to prove to my teammates for I had to prove

43:31

to people that I was around first. Some people believed

43:33

it what they heard what they was some

43:35

people I had to really go through the

43:37

trenches with them to get that pat on

43:39

the back and I didn't get that

43:41

to after the season. I mean like to we

43:43

was making our run. Nowadays

43:47

these freshmen don't gotta prove nothing.

43:50

You coming in with the idea I'm

43:52

only coming here for five six months.

43:55

I'm getting the fuck out of here. So when

43:57

it's being preached to you, yo come in. come

44:00

here, you know, five months, six months, you stay here, you

44:02

out. Then you going to the league. Or

44:05

you being forced out, because I got another batch

44:07

that's coming in. Right, but we

44:09

ain't winning, but it

44:11

looks good. It looks crazy. It's

44:14

phenomenal what's happening. Until

44:16

you meet up against some

44:19

guys who been together three, four years,

44:22

been through the portal, been in college four,

44:24

five years. Now you got

44:27

these 20, niggas is 23, 24 playing in

44:30

college right now. Like niggas five, six, yeah, I seen one

44:32

guy was 27 playing. Bro.

44:35

What? Yeah, eight years in college. Bro, they

44:37

got four kids and shit like, they

44:39

can play in the conference tournament. Yeah,

44:42

the white boy, right? He was

44:44

like, I don't know what he got. They got a white boy

44:46

in the new thing. Yeah, in Purdue, yeah. He's mad old. Nah,

44:48

that's somebody older than him. Older than him. What? I

44:50

said 27. God damn. 26,

44:52

26, some shit like, I think it's 26. But

44:55

my point is, you got these freshmen that's thinking,

44:58

not thinking, winning, you thinking, coming in doing what

45:00

I gotta do, performing and getting out of here.

45:03

I'm pressurized to get out of here in five

45:05

months. So

45:07

now it should get real, and the college game

45:09

is much different and it's a

45:11

different game. It's coached differently. It's not about the

45:13

players, it's about the college, the

45:15

university, the coaches more important than the player

45:18

on a college level. Now

45:21

you gotta match up with that. Now

45:25

players is in a portal now and they teaming up

45:27

with, they're going to other schools, they

45:29

plugging and playing. You

45:31

ain't ready for that. You coming straight out of state

45:35

finals and EYBL

45:37

and those circuits coming

45:39

into playing in these big leagues. So

45:42

Cal took the approach. Yeah, I won the win.

45:44

Everybody know Cal won the win, but nah,

45:47

my shit is about developing these kids

45:49

and getting them the fuck out of here. Yeah,

45:51

getting to the league. So now he gotta pick

45:53

a side. He has to

45:55

pick a side, he gotta pick and choose. Are you going to

45:57

continue to go after these one.

46:00

and DUNS and guys that is gonna get out of there, because

46:02

a lot of your guys should be

46:04

coming back, if you know what I mean? A lot of

46:06

guys should be coming back after they freshman year. So

46:10

Cal gotta make a decision. These other schools is figuring

46:12

this shit out. We ain't going after one and DUNS

46:14

no more, because at the end of the day, we

46:16

want to win. Yeah, right. And

46:18

Cal, his thing is he's not

46:21

producing championships. If

46:24

you're not producing championships with that

46:26

type of protocol and

46:28

that type of business plan, switch it up,

46:31

you gotta switch it up. The money and all that,

46:33

the years and the money and all that shit is

46:36

cool and Cal is

46:38

highly respected. But now it's

46:40

a magnifying glass on the

46:43

change and the shift of sports, what's happening in

46:45

sports. Right, so just the way we

46:47

had to shift to Cal being one and done, all them

46:49

coaches had to shift to Cal. From

46:51

Coach K's, to choose, to Izzo's,

46:54

everybody had to shift to Cal. So

46:57

now Cal, you gonna have

46:59

to shift back because the shift is happening. You

47:01

get what I'm saying? So that's

47:03

my spell on what

47:06

J. Wright said. That's my add-on

47:08

to what J. Wright said, because he's completely

47:11

direct, like he's right.

47:13

Them days is over,

47:16

y'all want it done. If you

47:18

ain't that guy, you gotta be that

47:20

guy. So

47:23

because everybody is leaving after one year, it

47:26

waters the college sport down. Nobody

47:29

is that guy in college, so nobody knows

47:32

who's that guy in college. Nobody

47:36

knows. We know who Kaitlin Clark is at

47:38

that point. And that's the shit.

47:40

You get what I'm saying? We don't know, but

47:42

we know Zach Edie. Because

47:44

why? He been there for five

47:47

years, and we saw his growth and development, so

47:49

everybody like, oh, he is crazy now. Oh, now

47:51

he can come play in the league. Because we

47:53

saw the actual development. So

47:56

if you ain't that guy, stay

47:58

your ass at school. You getting the money,

48:01

you getting the packages. You

48:04

been ill now, right? Yeah, and now you getting

48:07

the packages. So

48:09

it ain't no rush to get to that's another thing. You ain't

48:11

no rush to get to the NBA no

48:13

more because I'm sitting in college.

48:15

Oh, I can make a meal, two meal in

48:17

college. What? That's

48:20

damn near rookie salary. Yeah, I mean,

48:23

three, four million. Do you

48:25

think a lot of the, like

48:27

a lot of motherfuckers came in

48:29

on the hype, came in early and it

48:31

was like, dud city. You think

48:33

a lot of that has to do with it too? Just like a lot of niggas came in the

48:35

NBA, it was like, it's going to be crazy. The NBA is

48:37

a different breed. And now we wait in five

48:40

and six years to actually see these motherfuckers

48:42

play. Yeah, and we

48:44

don't have, and we don't have the patience to

48:46

see that. Because you're

48:48

in the NBA, so we want to see it gone.

48:50

So if you come now, if you

48:52

come to the NBA right now. It's like Zion's just

48:55

growing up. It always take

48:57

three, four years. Yeah, that's just anything.

48:59

It's with me. Yeah. I

49:01

came in right away, playing well performing

49:03

and finding my way and doing what

49:05

I felt like I needed to do

49:08

at that point. But it then took

49:10

me about my fourth year to be

49:12

like, I'm

49:14

here. I'm here now

49:17

since we going north. I know he was

49:19

in trouble when he went to New Orleans.

49:21

I was like, beyays, big booty bitches. Beyays

49:25

and big booty bitches and brains. Beyays. What

49:27

you doing with this boy? Y'all saying I'm

49:29

up. What's up? It was over. You got to

49:32

stick a nigga like that and you talk. You know what I'm

49:34

saying? You know what I'm saying? You can

49:36

play basketball and sleep. So Zion's speaking to

49:38

him, he was different. We knew he

49:40

was coming to college and getting the fuck out of

49:42

here. He is different. And

49:45

he took a couple of years to do. So

49:48

what makes you think that all everybody else

49:50

is going to come in and perform? You're

49:53

going to have to go through that

49:55

journey. Only

49:58

four people or four players. years

50:00

every year in the drive was gonna see

50:02

the court. At NBA speed too. That's a

50:04

different thing. Mm-hmm. It's a

50:06

different thing. Three years of development in college is

50:09

way different than three years of development in the

50:11

NBA. Absolutely. That's why we're

50:13

seeing the women's sports. Cooking. Ratings.

50:16

Cooking. Men's ratings because you don't

50:18

know who the fuck is on what school. I

50:20

don't know anybody who was playing. Oh shit, it

50:22

was just with, uh, he was over here

50:24

last year. You don't even know who the fuck

50:26

is. That's the truth. I don't know anybody who was

50:28

playing. We know women. We know the women's

50:30

sports. And you gonna see Caitlyn Clark next year. And she,

50:32

when she... No, she in the drive here. She in the

50:35

drive here. And that's a different story though, because now she

50:37

gotta go and prove herself. That's

50:39

another, that's another level. Mm-hmm. You

50:42

get what I'm saying? You got people that's waiting. She got people

50:44

waiting for you. And I said, shit, you don't see

50:46

that in the NBA at all. Like, yo, I played

50:48

four years of college, bro. You, you've been seeing me

50:50

in the tournament. You've been seeing me cook. She

50:52

ready. Yeah, I sold mad jerseys. You know what

50:54

I mean? She ready? She

50:57

ready. Yeah. She got

50:59

the confidence. She's ready. It's gonna

51:01

be tough though. I think she gonna get, I think,

51:03

I think she gonna get way more work than she

51:05

thinks she gonna get. Yo, they look, listen,

51:07

man. They like this. Yo, they waiting. Yo.

51:10

Yeah. It's gonna be some. They

51:13

waiting. They love that shit. But she gonna be

51:15

all right. Listen, man, who... Yeah, so I think she's

51:17

gonna be all right. I think she's gonna be really good. I just, I

51:19

know people don't got no patience. Mm-mm. You

51:22

get what I'm saying? So the minute that she don't come

51:25

in clicking right away, people

51:27

don't want to see the journey. Like people that

51:29

know it, they want to see the development of

51:31

the journey. First three for 20 game,

51:33

they all have. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, Sabrina went through

51:35

that. Yo, that's how I say Sabrina went through that. Sabrina

51:37

went through that. She a nurse went

51:39

through that. Yeah. You know,

51:42

like these are names that was like coming

51:44

into the WNBA draft that

51:47

was highly, highly touted. Yeah.

51:50

Hey, yo, you know what else about the women's game too? Like the

51:52

tournament, the storylines is way more

51:54

interesting, bro. It's lady over there. Man,

51:56

you got the LSU shit with Mulkey

51:58

going crazy. Mulkey. You got

52:00

Dawn Staley holding it down. It's Dawn's here though.

52:02

You know what I mean? It's Gamecopper. Yeah, the

52:04

stories used to be laid out interesting. It's

52:07

Dawn's here. They just playing. They're

52:09

efficient. They're clicking

52:12

on them. And I'm sorry, but to me personally,

52:14

LSU is playing sloppy ass basketball. They not the

52:16

same team they used to be. They are

52:18

though. I think Reese has gotten

52:20

way too confident and she just,

52:23

her decision making, I hate to say it,

52:25

it's terrible. She takes the wildest

52:27

shots from behind. I'm like, why are you

52:30

shooting it right now in this

52:32

moment? And they just don't

52:34

seem to have composure when it's necessary to

52:36

have composure. And the

52:39

Gamecox are just an all

52:41

cylinders efficient team. And

52:43

I just don't see it. I just

52:45

don't see it. These wins

52:48

that LSU been having, it's like

52:50

y'all just made it. They Dawn wins. Y'all,

52:52

no, no, no, no. And

52:54

it shouldn't be. It really shouldn't be

52:56

without a talent. They seem like a team that's

52:58

distracted in my opinion. They got too

53:00

much going on. Everybody ready

53:02

to go. Everybody ready to go. Everybody's popping

53:05

off. They can just

53:07

drop it songs the same day as

53:09

the tournament. They lit over there and

53:11

I'm not judging it. He lit, he

53:13

lit, he lit. But you

53:15

could see what the effect is

53:17

on the floor. And

53:19

it's like, it's crazy over there. Kim

53:23

gotta take them jackets off. Everybody gotta turn down.

53:25

Like when I see shit like that, I'm

53:27

not going to believe it to y'all. So everybody's in

53:29

all black and all the same t-shirt. Like

53:31

we here to just do the job, bro. That's

53:33

what we can. Yo, take them jackets

53:36

off. Cause it's just wild right now. And they can

53:38

be his own, they can be the kid in his

53:40

own. But is that like

53:42

the drawback now then of the popularity of

53:44

the game? That it's becoming like, no,

53:47

now you're going to see, now you're going to start

53:49

seeing women come in and be one and done. Like

53:51

the popularity is coming

53:53

from the fact that we get to see, when

53:56

we get to build with the women's teams, the

53:59

schools, we get to build. with LSU, you get

54:01

to see the Angel Reese's freshman

54:03

year soft when you're done. You know what I'm saying?

54:05

The fact that you have to stay three years, I'm

54:07

not saying the NBA should do it. Well,

54:09

hell no, they shouldn't do it. The women's

54:11

game, they stay in three years. So you

54:13

see the development of Kaitlyn Clark over the

54:16

years. So now you get to see how

54:18

special she really is. So if I'm a scout, right,

54:21

I'm looking at a Kaitlyn Clark, you'll

54:24

see her. I'm looking at her from her freshman year up

54:26

until now. How much she developed, right? Her

54:29

game, how much time she put in the gym, how

54:31

much work, her IQ, how much better I ball handed,

54:33

how much, you know what I mean?

54:35

Just how I feel for the game, how much she

54:37

developed. That's what I'm looking for.

54:39

And that's easier for me to scout that

54:41

as opposed to seeing somebody

54:44

in five months, right?

54:47

Who hasn't even turned

54:49

the next age yet. You get what

54:51

I'm saying? So I'm predicting and I'm

54:54

judging, I'm assessing you off of what

54:57

I see at the beginning of your 18 years

55:01

and the end of your 18 years. And every way.

55:03

In every way. Personally,

55:05

emotionally. How you react to shit on

55:07

the floor. How you react to everything, right? So

55:09

now I'm judging you and

55:12

I'm saying, nah, I can't fuck with you because

55:15

of what you just showed me, only

55:17

showed me in this short

55:19

period of time. And that's what's

55:21

happening. So if I'm, and that's why highlight

55:23

tapes are so pivotal today, because

55:25

I got a sick highlight tape. Most scouts are looking

55:28

at only a minute of

55:31

tape. They looking at a minute

55:33

of tape and seeing, can he dribble?

55:36

Can he get to the, can he get to the rack? Can

55:38

he shoot a three? Can he come off a

55:40

pick? Right? They looking at

55:42

certain things. And if you hit those marks, you

55:45

consider somebody that's high on their, on their

55:47

list. So you get a chance to see the women's

55:49

game a lot different because we get to grow with that

55:51

shit. And the women's game needs that in

55:54

my opinion, right? The women's game, like, because

55:56

it's, I think it's coming into its renaissance. I

55:58

think it's coming into its like. moment,

56:01

you need that attachment to these players.

56:03

You want to watch them. Like the

56:05

men's game is so ahead of it that it's

56:08

like, now we're ready for whatever this version

56:10

is. Something new. Something new. But the women's

56:12

game, you want to watch girls breathe four years, see

56:14

how they grow, get that attachment to them,

56:17

be excited for the draft. Where is everybody

56:19

going? Where? And you only get

56:21

that from watching players play four years, watching

56:23

how they perform four years. So it's like

56:25

the women's game is primed for where it's

56:27

at and like what it's doing. It's their

56:29

moment to really do this shit the way

56:31

they do it. You can't compare it. That's

56:34

what's going, that's what's happening. Like you can't compare it

56:37

to the men's game. Like you just

56:39

got to let it be his own thing. Let it be his

56:41

own thing and let it grow as it

56:43

grows. And we see the support that

56:46

we have for women's sports. And it

56:48

will grow. And it's growing. Because also everything

56:51

is transitional. Like I was looking at them

56:53

like, you just now have the women that

56:55

been in the NBA, the WNBA, now that

56:57

coming back to coach, NBA

56:59

players having daughters. So

57:02

everything about this game itself

57:05

is developing. These

57:08

AIU teams are like different now. You know

57:10

what I'm saying? Because the skill set is

57:12

different and there's coaches coming in that are

57:14

like better. That are teaching

57:17

these women how to compete in a

57:19

certain way that wasn't being implemented in a

57:21

game before. So everything about it is

57:23

developing in a different way. And it's been

57:25

broadcast now. It's eyeballs.

57:27

It's prime time. Right? And

57:29

now they starting to get TV deals. And

57:32

it was a struggle. It was a fight for them to

57:34

be on TV. Word. And

57:37

rightfully so at that point in time because of

57:40

if you put the numbers together it's like

57:42

corporations is like, why we gonna get behind

57:44

this? Why are we gonna support this? The

57:47

numbers is skyrocketing

57:49

right now. And it's starting with

57:52

this generation. This

57:55

generation is young generation. They

57:58

boosting women's sports. They going crazy. Yeah,

58:00

because they they talking about it. They tweeting about a

58:02

stream in it, but they also just

58:04

being supportive They're being themselves. It was

58:06

like early on women coming into the league Bitches

58:09

can't be gay. Niggas is not even

58:11

comfortable. You are people don't even trust the

58:13

sport Everything is you know those

58:16

women that paved the way for these women It's

58:18

like God bless them because they went through hell

58:20

absolutely trying to just play a sport They

58:22

gotta bring them back. Well for real and

58:24

now these young girls. They like I am

58:26

who I am I'm a baller. They bump

58:28

and test They be

58:31

all bitches Ahhhhhh

58:34

We fucking playing bro Step over,

58:36

step over I'm gonna

58:38

be the face of the sport right now

58:40

Caitlin Clark, you know what I mean She's

58:42

out there Generational talent,

58:45

but she had a couple situations on the court You

58:48

know what I mean? There's clips of her wiling,

58:50

you know what I mean? Like,

58:52

you know, cutting that refs Not wiling,

58:54

not wiling Just playing the game Playing

58:58

hard Emotional

59:03

But to the point, the hypothesis even like yo

59:05

yo yo Calm down before

59:07

I hit you with the coconuts You

59:10

know what I'm saying? Chill out Is

59:12

she wiling or is that just like

59:14

that competitive, that greatness You know what

59:16

I'm saying? Or banging

59:18

the basketball off her head I was watching that

59:20

game I was like yo, this

59:23

is why I love women's basketball Cause she

59:25

up 20 something She's back to the man

59:28

She was frustrated though I

59:30

said you were pointing something but that's why I love it I'm

59:32

like, she's in the game She's

59:34

in the game She was frustrated,

59:36

they wasn't giving her calls They was

59:38

fucking her up Yeah, this is her

59:40

shit right now This is her shit right now Nah,

59:44

I want that, I don't think that's wiling I want that

59:46

to show why The E.F.V.

59:48

show, why she did that Fucking

59:50

her up They hit her

59:52

with the elbow on the neck They were Physically

59:56

though, they was getting out of the elbow But

59:58

Virginia had that and slow.

1:00:00

Yeah, Virginia had them. Yeah, Virginia had them. Virginia

1:00:02

fucked up. It was that three

1:00:04

pointer that blocked that first block three. She should

1:00:06

have took that three. She should have did what they

1:00:08

do. And she should have drove the ball. You said

1:00:10

pops, stop. Yeah. Cut it out. You come on here

1:00:13

to do the women's sports. Bro, she should have drove

1:00:15

the ball. You know what it was on that three? It

1:00:17

pissed me off because I knew they were going to do it.

1:00:19

I literally said, don't do it. Just bring it in

1:00:21

and get your points. What stayed is

1:00:24

I get young. And she was looking for

1:00:26

a big tournament moment. That's all that was. It was

1:00:28

like, dude. They didn't make any money,

1:00:30

bro. I was like, this don't even make no

1:00:32

sense to do right now, bro. Just

1:00:35

get your money. Just go in there and

1:00:37

get your money. It was like, she wanted

1:00:39

that splash moment. We did

1:00:41

it, niggas. It was like, bro. Now

1:00:44

you finna lose. They fucking cabling up, bro.

1:00:48

They was fucking cabling up. They getting her ass, bro. They

1:00:51

hitting her with the joining rules. That's

1:00:53

Kaitlyn Clark-Wyland. I don't think, I mean, to

1:00:55

me, this is another thing, too. You gotta understand. They

1:00:59

young. But I don't think she's violent.

1:01:01

No, I don't think she's violent. I

1:01:03

think we not used

1:01:06

to seeing women in the

1:01:09

public like that, in

1:01:11

a sport like that. We used

1:01:13

to be improper and having sportsmanship.

1:01:16

And you foul somebody, you pick them

1:01:18

up and say, I'm sorry. We

1:01:20

women. This is what we

1:01:22

do. But basketball is different. Just

1:01:24

that passion, bro. She's doing

1:01:27

what she's supposed to do. And the pasta's what we supposed to do.

1:01:29

Because I don't even feel like it was more like you. It's just

1:01:31

like, yo. Don't get too text. Also, don't let

1:01:33

these niggas see you sweat. Now

1:01:35

you looking frazzled and dazzled, baby girl. And

1:01:38

that's not how we play basketball. So just get

1:01:40

your head on. They do what you

1:01:42

know you gotta do. But all this yelling and stuff, now

1:01:44

they looking at you like, they got you off your tilt.

1:01:46

And we ain't doing that. That's why I feel like

1:01:48

it was. You don't even gotta go any

1:01:50

more deeper than that. That's more like, yo,

1:01:54

stop playing. That's just a different

1:01:56

conversation, man. Especially if you hurt.

1:01:59

Like if you can't. I'm getting it. You, I'm

1:02:02

as your dad, I can talk to you

1:02:04

like that. Oh yeah. Cause we

1:02:06

have this report now, now that you playing this game

1:02:08

right here and you in the situation, we can, I

1:02:11

can speak to you like that because I know I'm

1:02:13

trying to get you somewhere else. So

1:02:15

what the fuck is we doing? Like, fuck

1:02:18

is we doing? You know what I'm saying? Oh, can I ask

1:02:20

you a question? Absolutely. As a, as a, as

1:02:22

a, as a father, who has a kid who plays

1:02:25

basketball, it was nice. Me

1:02:27

and my homies talking about this, like, do you

1:02:29

feel like, I was like, it gotta be an extra

1:02:31

oomph if you could make

1:02:33

your daughter that, that thing. Yeah,

1:02:36

it's different. I think it's different. Right? Like,

1:02:39

yeah. So as like his, like for him, like

1:02:42

taking that, like, you sitting there and like, I

1:02:44

know what I had to do to

1:02:47

get you to this point. Like we, we

1:02:49

had to really lock the fuck

1:02:51

in. We had to lock in every,

1:02:53

you had to commit to being this

1:02:56

player years ago, growing

1:02:58

up as a kid. So you had to be

1:03:00

dedicated. And I had to be dedicated with you

1:03:03

to go through this process. We've been

1:03:05

hit with every type of situation. So when you

1:03:07

get in that type of situation in the game,

1:03:09

like the other night, and

1:03:11

if I have to say something to you, wildin',

1:03:15

because I don't have to say nothing. We already

1:03:17

put the work in. You forgot, you forget. The

1:03:19

game is, the game is, it should be easy

1:03:21

to you cause we went through this, this

1:03:24

journey. So if I have

1:03:26

to say, yo, mommy,

1:03:30

what you doing? That's

1:03:33

a lot. So now I might have to

1:03:35

change my, that's all, and

1:03:37

she wildin'. And

1:03:39

like that, yeah, you wildin' because we

1:03:42

put too much work in. I understand that the

1:03:44

emotional connection and the moment and, but

1:03:48

you being emotional for the wrong reasons. You ain't

1:03:50

getting the calls, you getting fucked up. We

1:03:52

built for this. What

1:03:55

was we doing? Nah, mommy, come on, come on. Do

1:03:57

you go through that with your son? and

1:04:00

play like bro. Yeah,

1:04:02

but I'm yeah, hell yeah. Because it's like,

1:04:04

I could talk to him

1:04:06

like, yo, what the fuck are

1:04:08

we doing? Because

1:04:12

we built that. Yeah. Like

1:04:14

I don't have to say much to him. For

1:04:17

you to say more in the games, right? Like

1:04:19

he know, I guess give him a has,

1:04:21

you know, I cool. What we doing? Little

1:04:24

shit. You get what I'm saying? If

1:04:27

I have to like, yo, fuck

1:04:29

is you doing? Then

1:04:31

he knows like, I must be fucking up. He ain't gonna

1:04:33

bark on me like, you know what I mean? He ain't

1:04:35

gonna bark on me like that. So I felt with what

1:04:38

Caleb Ponce was coming from, man. But if you can

1:04:40

build a like pick

1:04:43

your little girl and build her,

1:04:45

especially with like a hitter

1:04:47

or sniper, like that's crazy. That is crazy.

1:04:49

Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I

1:04:51

was watching him. I'm like, nah, he did

1:04:53

so. Mel, so he's like, come on. That's

1:04:55

a different commitment that you gotta have on

1:04:57

the girl's side than the boy's side. That's

1:04:59

a different type of commitment. Because it's

1:05:01

sensitive. Oh, yeah. You know what I

1:05:03

mean? You gotta get her to shake that girl shit.

1:05:05

I know we not, we been around saying it

1:05:08

with a little bit. No, you do it. You

1:05:10

gotta shake that and be like, yo, baby, we

1:05:12

not girl, we balling. We gotta shake that

1:05:14

girl shit. If this is what we gonna

1:05:16

do, then this is what we gonna do.

1:05:18

And this is how we gotta do it.

1:05:20

So it's definitely a lot different. You

1:05:23

a hooper, bro, from the age of like, and especially

1:05:25

like, y'all from the age of like, you know

1:05:27

what I mean? Young, young. Yeah. You

1:05:29

know what I'm saying? Man. He

1:05:32

got game. And then pick up. You really gotta put it down

1:05:34

there. You got to be a shuttlebork, I keep telling you. Oh,

1:05:36

no. You gotta be Jake. You gotta be Jake

1:05:39

out here, bro. I'm telling you. I kicked the ball and

1:05:41

all that. Boy, y'all let shit be known. Of

1:05:43

both sides. The boy in the air. We both trying

1:05:45

to hear. The boy in the air. The boy in

1:05:47

the air. The boy in the air. The boy in

1:05:49

the air. Let me wait. These moms say, come on

1:05:51

here, man. We'll do it to them in the ankle

1:05:53

bracelet. You know what I'm saying? What we doing? Especially

1:06:00

now, where it's static everywhere.

1:06:03

Social media causes static, right? Everybody's

1:06:07

being recruited, everybody's on these same circuits,

1:06:10

girls are like, girl, it's life. So

1:06:13

now, we just actually seeing it. We ain't

1:06:15

see it before, we ain't have it. There

1:06:17

wasn't no TV, there wasn't no social... We

1:06:19

couldn't see it before. Now we actually seeing

1:06:21

it, these girls is actually, they want respect.

1:06:24

They want respect from the rest of the world too. Like

1:06:26

we here, like we play physical, we dive on

1:06:28

the floor. We fight, we do everything. That's what

1:06:31

I was going to say. Right, so we actually

1:06:33

seeing it now, and live.

1:06:36

We see South Carolina in the fight, and not

1:06:39

a fight, but the scuffle that happened with South

1:06:41

Carolina LSU. That's

1:06:43

crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. That

1:06:45

was crazy though. That's real issues. You know

1:06:48

what I'm saying? That's real issues. I

1:06:51

don't like Boston. Oh wow. Can we

1:06:53

do like a preview? Can we do like a setup? Yes,

1:06:55

I'm a... I'm a... I'm a... I'm

1:06:58

a... I'm not

1:07:00

a human ass. Not a shot.

1:07:02

Not a shot, not a shot. I'm just

1:07:05

saying, I actually like both. I'm just saying,

1:07:08

that shit is already brewing

1:07:10

and building. We go to war.

1:07:13

Like we really go to war when we play each

1:07:15

other. Like I'm trying to beat you, I'm trying

1:07:17

to beat me. Like this is a fucking war.

1:07:19

So the emotional attachment to the game now is

1:07:21

even deeper. And now women,

1:07:24

they want to... Them girls want to prove themselves.

1:07:27

We here to stay. We ain't... This

1:07:29

ain't no bullshit. And these girls is better today. They more

1:07:31

athletic today. They shoot better today. They dribble better

1:07:34

today. You get what I'm saying? So the game

1:07:36

evolved. So now what we're seeing is we're seeing their

1:07:38

version of what's happening in the NBA. And

1:07:46

they weren't... That's the culture. And

1:07:48

they weren't... I think there's a big thing that we overlook women in

1:07:50

the sports, especially women's basketball, is they

1:07:53

weren't allowed to do it. Absolutely. The

1:07:55

coaches, the referees, everything, telling

1:07:58

these women, you still have to be...

1:08:00

ladies. I don't want to see this

1:08:02

stuff. They're making people high that they

1:08:04

were gay or whatever they were to

1:08:06

try to keep this sport feminine and

1:08:08

this and that. No one wants to

1:08:10

see women act that way and behave

1:08:12

that way. So there was all this

1:08:15

control and containment that was also happening

1:08:17

with these women that I'm sure in

1:08:19

the Leslie days and that they still had all

1:08:22

that same passion in them, but they worried about

1:08:24

really getting reprimanded or minutes getting taken away from

1:08:26

them if they act in a certain way. And

1:08:28

so I appreciate what I see from the

1:08:31

women now because it's also been just

1:08:33

claiming their femininity within this sport

1:08:35

and saying I'm allowed to be all of these things

1:08:37

at once. I can't wait till it's super lit. Like

1:08:39

I remember that one clip that kept going around with

1:08:42

a shorty got like she got hit with a pick

1:08:44

and she fell and her wig came off and all

1:08:46

the women came around her and it was so many

1:08:48

women like this is sisterhood, but me was like, now

1:08:50

that ain't basketball. I can't wait to get so greasy.

1:08:53

Someone step on that wig. You're wearing

1:08:55

a wig right. We're going

1:08:57

right now. You should have came

1:08:59

with the correct.

1:09:01

You fuck out of here. When

1:09:04

I know we really, we need this shit. Let's go.

1:09:06

We play it for real. Yeah,

1:09:09

nah. That's the shit. That's the fucking

1:09:11

stomach hurts. You got me. You ain't

1:09:13

even got to get kicked out from...

1:09:16

You got that? You just got that

1:09:20

Malaysian bungle on the back brake like, ah,

1:09:22

fuck out of here. But nah, that's the

1:09:24

shit, man. Like it's like, I'm not mad

1:09:26

at this shit at all. I'm not mad at

1:09:29

it at all. You know what I mean? Because it's

1:09:31

like you see it in the men's game and it's

1:09:33

just like, yo, yeah, fuck

1:09:35

that. Especially, bro, college, college

1:09:38

fandom is a different type of fandom, bro.

1:09:40

I think college needs it though. Yeah, hell

1:09:42

yeah. You know what I'm saying? On the

1:09:46

men's side, like, yeah, it needs that, you

1:09:49

know, that Rod Rodness. Like it's two cookie

1:09:51

color, like two, the rules is

1:09:53

different. It's, you know, it's why we got to

1:09:55

our college got two halves. Like, every other

1:09:57

school got four quarters. Women's school got four quarters.

1:10:00

Why don't you play it two halves though,

1:10:02

bro? Like, this is back of the day shit. Let's get

1:10:04

the four quarters. But

1:10:07

they ain't doing all of this. They ain't scrapping, they ain't doing

1:10:09

none of this because they, like you said, like

1:10:11

the one and done shit. Like, they thinking about the league.

1:10:13

They ain't even thinking like- They just thinking, get out of

1:10:15

here. Yeah, I'm out of here. But now I'm like, they

1:10:17

thinking portal. Right. Get me

1:10:19

to the transfer portal. If

1:10:22

it don't work here, I'm going to the transfer portal. I'm out

1:10:24

of here. You know what I'm saying? I'm chasing the bag.

1:10:26

Meanwhile- So now you don't have to chase the bag onto

1:10:28

the NBA no more. You chase

1:10:30

the bag through the transfer portal. I'm going to go

1:10:33

sell jerseys at Duke or whatever the fuck. You know what I'm

1:10:35

saying? Like- Just get in and get- Find some

1:10:37

nail money somewhere. You might leave Duke or

1:10:39

somewhere and go somewhere else. You

1:10:41

get what I'm saying? They're finding- Oh, miss. Go ahead,

1:10:43

get your fine and some work. And perform. Like, you

1:10:46

find- You know what I mean? So now you're getting out-

1:10:48

You looking at- Absolutely,

1:10:50

y'all. I could cook over there. That's ill that

1:10:52

she said that because that's what's happening. Yo, that

1:10:54

situation over there. I'm going over

1:10:56

there. Crazy. They locked in. The

1:10:59

highlight shit on YouTube. Like, ah, yeah.

1:11:01

Niggas ain't sad from losing no more

1:11:03

in college. They like, all right, cool.

1:11:06

I'm transferring from going over there. I'm

1:11:09

going over here. Yeah, I'm out of here. That

1:11:11

is real. That makes sense. They want me to tease it

1:11:13

out. I'm not going to tease it out. Cause it's going

1:11:15

to sound like I'm still shooting shots. So you- Got

1:11:18

it! You know what I mean? You tease

1:11:20

it out. We can't even just walk this shit. Yeah, we can't even walk

1:11:22

this shit. We can't even just walk this shit. Yeah, let's get into

1:11:24

this shit. Let's get into this shit. The playoffs-

1:11:26

It's cool, bro. Let's be

1:11:28

on. Let's be on. Let's do it how

1:11:31

it really started. OK. I feel

1:11:33

like we started to have- First

1:11:35

of all, I don't want to cut you off. I have

1:11:37

no ill will towards you. By the way- I don't

1:11:39

think so. I just like fuck around. I do feel

1:11:41

a little way about Boston. I

1:11:44

feel a way about Boston Celtics.

1:11:46

You get what I'm saying? You know, like, that's just

1:11:48

from a competitive spirit. I

1:11:52

inherited that over, you know, growing up and coming

1:11:54

to the nation. No choice. In New York, you

1:11:56

have no choice. You really have no

1:11:58

choice. No choice. And to be

1:12:00

able to be a part of

1:12:04

those moments and those battles

1:12:06

and those wars and it's like fuck

1:12:09

New York and fuck Boston, that's when

1:12:12

it got real. I understood what I was stepping

1:12:14

into. What you really was a part of. Absolutely.

1:12:16

Some real shit. So when I say I don't

1:12:19

fuck with Boston, it's not that I don't fuck,

1:12:21

it's not fuck Boston, it's just I

1:12:23

don't fuck with Boston because I'm

1:12:26

New York. That's it. I play

1:12:28

with the Knicks. I battle. Y'all motherfuckers

1:12:30

hated me over there. You know

1:12:32

what I'm saying? I got a hell shit over there.

1:12:34

We did. That's why I had to

1:12:37

bring up my nephew because he's from Boston, but

1:12:39

that's how much of a fan he is. He's like,

1:12:41

nah, I fuck with Melo. But you're right, we didn't

1:12:43

fuck with you. I know. We didn't fuck with you.

1:12:45

I know. We was judging, we didn't fuck with you.

1:12:48

I already know. Y'all already know. Tell me this stuff.

1:12:50

Don't take this side. We didn't fuck with you. Yeah,

1:12:52

nah. Why wasn't you? If you from Boston, I know

1:12:54

there's no way you ruined for the Knicks or the

1:12:57

Yankees or the Giants. I gotta be honest. That's what

1:12:59

I'm saying. Like we have to do this shit for

1:13:01

real. We gotta do this shit for real if we're

1:13:03

gonna do it. For one, Boston,

1:13:07

I was born in 82. We

1:13:09

had to keep that in mind. So there's a

1:13:12

long time where Boston is garbage, but

1:13:14

I love basketball. So there's a while

1:13:16

where I'm a grifter. I'm not gonna lie. I'm

1:13:19

just picking squads. I got different

1:13:21

squads every two years. I like these niggas. I

1:13:23

like these niggas. I like these niggas.

1:13:26

There's a time where I'm a big Sacramento fan.

1:13:28

I'm fucking with Webb. I'm fucking with

1:13:30

Wills. I'm fucking with Pager. I'm

1:13:32

like, these boys might be able to do it. But Webb,

1:13:35

fuck that up. But we, whatever. C-Web,

1:13:38

I'll fuck with you

1:13:40

C-Web. I was like, whatever, but like,

1:13:42

you really hurt me and you pissed me off. And you

1:13:44

owe Pager, you owe Pager something.

1:13:47

But really stripping him of his best years doing

1:13:49

crazy shit. See, Wimpa do a lot of crazy

1:13:51

shit, bro. You're a real fan, Chas. I fuck

1:13:53

with basketball. And I remember, dog, I remember. It

1:13:56

was the year they should have did it, nigga.

1:13:58

It was like, they gonna do it. They

1:14:00

could get by the Lakers and they did this little you

1:14:02

know They be doing a little expose on Nick is like

1:14:04

what they've been doing in offseason and this nigga C web

1:14:06

was working on his three Three-point

1:14:18

line next to paper every time the lane

1:14:21

was too close. That's why he had to

1:14:23

separate Then stop

1:14:25

being scared of that nigga, bro That's

1:14:30

me all bro This

1:14:41

was my people why it's some blastin

1:14:43

is Boston shit That's crazy, but they was

1:14:45

cuz I liked I like Charlie. I like

1:14:48

I like Charles I

1:14:50

like how they who you know I'm saying

1:14:53

so I'm not really I'm not really even

1:14:55

I'm not even all in on Boston So

1:14:58

we this gonna be fucked up We

1:15:02

what till we don't Walker I Hate

1:15:05

it walk. I hate it walk. I

1:15:07

just thought we gave him two months I'm

1:15:10

a two-minded two months and they would do

1:15:12

that week after Dita's commercial with that bullshit crossover

1:15:14

And I was like I hate everything about this

1:15:17

Pierce is the guy that's always just how I

1:15:19

felt I was like y'all disrespecting Pierce because

1:15:21

he's really got it working. He changed it

1:15:24

He's and he's really doing

1:15:26

it like walk to me he

1:15:28

just felt like Sometimes

1:15:31

they could just be like I'm an NBA That's

1:15:33

how I walk felt to me. Mm-hmm Pierce wanted

1:15:37

He wanted he wanted Boston. He wanted that shit

1:15:39

Yeah, you know I'm saying and then when it when

1:15:41

Paris got stabbed up in the city. I Knew

1:15:44

it was over. I was like this nigga out Nigga

1:15:46

stabbed me in my jersey I

1:15:55

don't understand. I need

1:15:57

to be out the city and that nigga

1:15:59

stay He didn't really ride some niggas

1:16:01

in the city But oh he right he didn't because he

1:16:03

said on that thing said he didn't know who did it

1:16:05

Mm-hmm, and nigga he could have said I know exactly who

1:16:07

did it He kept it a buck and

1:16:09

not for nothing after that after that shit at the

1:16:11

piss got hocked up that nigga

1:16:14

was Yeah, I'm not gonna hold

1:16:16

you that was his 7 p.m. And

1:16:22

that was when I was really like I'm excited

1:16:24

about this fucking team and then he brought other

1:16:26

niggas to the city Garnet Allen which I don't

1:16:28

even know how you get niggas to come when

1:16:31

you got stabbed. That's crazy I

1:16:36

think getting poked up like that

1:16:38

and Not only recovering

1:16:40

but recovering and playing NBA basketball, which

1:16:42

is why he is like he is

1:16:45

today The

1:16:50

city of Boston Get

1:16:52

love area with the penis could go anywhere. He

1:16:55

don't get enough credit. No, he don't get enough

1:16:58

I don't get enough. He was a real one

1:17:01

dog like I know Paul is a real

1:17:03

one I'm a miss nigga did a commercial

1:17:05

for New England Medical Center because that's who

1:17:07

gave him the blood transfusion It's not like

1:17:09

on dogs like nigga. He's like on dogs,

1:17:11

bro So

1:17:13

Pierce changed the energy because also he was

1:17:15

black. You gotta understand Boston a white ass city

1:17:18

It's a team that tried to always believe in

1:17:20

whiteness They was always looking for the next Larry

1:17:22

Bird They were really

1:17:24

cool. Yeah, they was delusional nigga They wouldn't really

1:17:26

recruit real niggas when they did they wouldn't really

1:17:28

give him that spot Like it was the

1:17:30

opposite of Hollywood wrong. LA was Hollywood was

1:17:36

So Pierce being like black and like

1:17:39

we in here and he Never

1:17:44

turned it up. That's when I really was like This

1:17:47

is my squad But it took a while because

1:17:49

it was a long transition of time in

1:17:52

a city where it was just like I can't

1:17:54

care about This because this is really nothing.

1:17:56

It's a hockey players playing in a I

1:18:01

know some of my niggas gonna see this

1:18:04

like, no forever. But

1:18:08

it wasn't, that wasn't, it wasn't forever. You are

1:18:10

Boston forever. Like you are, it is what it is.

1:18:13

Whenever we was on, we was on, whenever we

1:18:15

was playing, I'm cheering. You know what I'm saying? But

1:18:17

I get it. I get it. Especially

1:18:19

I get the face of the city. The city itself, there's

1:18:22

black people there. We're there like

1:18:24

motherfucker. If you want to come and see it,

1:18:26

you could come and see it. But you

1:18:28

could also never see it. Two

1:18:30

things that happen in Boston. And a

1:18:32

lot of people have one impression of how the city

1:18:34

is. So that also make them hate the team. You

1:18:37

know what I'm saying? I like the city. So I

1:18:39

get that part of it. But I

1:18:41

love what you does. And I was worried, I was like, because we

1:18:43

was becoming friends at the Knicks

1:18:45

games and I was like, I got to tell this nigga. I

1:18:47

feel like, I feel like, you know what I'm gonna put

1:18:49

a jersey on. I already knew what was going on. I

1:18:51

already knew what was going on. I knew what was going on. I

1:18:53

knew what was going on. I already knew what was going on. I

1:18:55

already knew what was going on. I already knew what was going on.

1:18:58

I wasn't gonna make the block hot.

1:19:00

I just knew exactly what was going

1:19:03

on over there. You know what I'm

1:19:05

saying? My thing with

1:19:07

Boston, it was a deep situation. It

1:19:11

was battles, man. It was battles. I'm talking about

1:19:13

hotels. I can't walk outside hotels. I

1:19:15

can't go to restaurants and like, what? Nigga's

1:19:18

spitting in your sandwich. You know what

1:19:20

I mean? Like, not wanting to go eat, but like taking

1:19:23

late night walks. You know what I mean?

1:19:26

I wish I would, because you could have called niggas. You could have came

1:19:28

eight with us. Nah, nah, I had my spots.

1:19:30

I had my spots. The hood would have been like,

1:19:33

you good? Nah, nah, nah. You

1:19:35

just knew where not to go. Yeah. You

1:19:37

know, because most times you think of Boston as a

1:19:39

bar town. You know what I mean? Like, most people

1:19:41

come in town, they want to hit the bars and

1:19:43

hotel is next to the bar. So that's where the

1:19:45

fans is gonna be. But when you know how to

1:19:47

move, you know where to go to, who to tap

1:19:49

into. You get what I'm saying?

1:19:52

You do what you're doing, eat comfortably with the

1:19:54

right napkin. You know what I mean? Eat

1:19:58

comfortably. I

1:20:00

was real comfortable in the game town. Shout

1:20:02

out to Eno, don't let that know. I

1:20:04

was real comfortable in the game town. You

1:20:06

know what I'm saying? So my deep rooted

1:20:08

beef with Boston is just

1:20:11

on court. I know you

1:20:13

can't be one or the other. It's not the

1:20:15

city of Boston. You gotta lock into one

1:20:17

or the other. That's why I feel like this... Because

1:20:20

you've been here. Playing and wearing that across your

1:20:22

chest. You gotta buy into all that shit. I

1:20:24

did buy into it. You do. Yankees,

1:20:27

Red Sox, I was buying into it. Rangers, Bruins,

1:20:29

I got it. You got

1:20:31

it. You got it because it's real bro. It's

1:20:34

not, it's real. You go to the hotel

1:20:36

room, do the playoffs. They playing all Boston

1:20:38

sports on purpose. Every channel. No,

1:20:41

can't play nothing else. Every channel. That's

1:20:43

why I love my city though. I

1:20:45

don't even watch hockey. I gotta watch what

1:20:47

you're doing. That's why I love my city. It's

1:20:49

fucked up and toxic as it is. You

1:20:52

come to Boston, you fucking with what

1:20:54

we doing. That's it. You

1:20:57

can get on that fucking boat. Word.

1:20:59

You can fucking fuck why, man. You're right there.

1:21:01

You can fucking out shoot. You can fucking talk

1:21:03

about it. That's all it is. Everywhere you can

1:21:05

go to 80 Bar The Hood. Everywhere. When I

1:21:07

lived in Atlanta, that shit fucked me up. I'm

1:21:09

like, y'all not real fans in Atlanta. I

1:21:12

remember Bobby Cox's last game with the Braves. What

1:21:15

the fuck are Bobby Cox? 120 years

1:21:17

old. I'm like, I'm not real fans in Atlanta.

1:21:19

I remember Bobby Cox's last game

1:21:22

with the Braves. What the fuck are

1:21:24

Bobby Cox's? 120 years old, bro. The

1:21:26

game was not on at this bar. They

1:21:29

was watching a Panthers game. And I'm

1:21:32

like, this would never happen in the

1:21:34

city. Every day, black bar, white

1:21:36

bar, Spanish bar. That's

1:21:39

what we watching. That's one thing I say about bars. I'm like, we

1:21:41

fuck with our shit. And it's

1:21:43

like, when you on our time, you on our time. When

1:21:45

they burn your jersey, you don't shit as well. We

1:21:48

mean that shit. My own personal experience.

1:21:50

When they burn your jersey, shit is very

1:21:52

good. It's just

1:21:54

very good. They lost. Bernie is

1:21:56

dead. We mean it. It ain't no hate. It's

1:21:58

just they stand on what they feel. Absolutely

1:22:00

stand up, but we respect you if you really

1:22:02

stand on yours too. Absolutely. You know I'm saying

1:22:05

you really said all yours You like cool, but

1:22:07

yes, we it's crazy city

1:22:09

crazy for that Cuz

1:22:12

yo, like you said any boy any place you go to

1:22:15

be you go to the biggest by a hard whir for

1:22:20

We're speaking to the squad now, you know saying I

1:22:23

know you confident I'll hold for

1:22:25

Papi. Listen, you say my name wrong. I'll give you

1:22:27

go go time. So one time. That's it J

1:22:30

we talk about JC Tatum all the time on

1:22:32

the show as being one of them once right

1:22:34

along with like a Edwards I was

1:22:36

like, you know to me like the future of

1:22:39

the league, you know I'm saying You

1:22:42

gotta give me to tell the truth Oh

1:22:58

Oh That's

1:23:07

how you got so many people from New York

1:23:09

We love David has rest ox fans Well, I

1:23:12

respect and then and also give it up to

1:23:14

Boston real niggas when he was on Dominican public

1:23:16

fuck with that niggas bitch And they did him

1:23:18

dirty Oh Sometimes

1:23:50

I get jiggy. Yeah Oh

1:24:00

my, oh my Dominican A's need better. More

1:24:02

familiar than this. Don't go back home and

1:24:04

sit in one of them plastic chairs from

1:24:06

Costco in the hood. Mackin. Like

1:24:09

just Mackin bro. With a little cup of,

1:24:11

with a little cup of, you know what

1:24:13

I'm saying Jaden? You know what I'm saying?

1:24:15

Come on man. That's a real shit. I

1:24:17

coulda, I coulda, I coulda maybe got

1:24:20

a bag of David Ortiz. At one point he

1:24:22

was trying to fuck me. Hold on, hold on,

1:24:25

hold on. Hold

1:24:27

on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. I can't remember this. He'll

1:24:30

never remember this. And it was down like that. He'll

1:24:32

never remember this. You know what I'm saying? I absolutely

1:24:34

lied. I was, I was second biggest at

1:24:36

the time. I was living a different life. I

1:24:39

was working at the Sprint store. And I

1:24:41

had a baseball to prove it. I

1:24:43

was working at the Sprint store on Boylston

1:24:45

street. He came in with his daughter, young

1:24:48

girl, came in and get a bunch of phones. Came

1:24:50

in again, I don't know man. Like 20, 30 phones. Like

1:24:54

he was buying phones for all the family. Mad phones.

1:24:57

So we doing all the phone stuff. And

1:24:59

his daughter was in the store. So I was like, you

1:25:02

know, giving her things to color on. This is

1:25:04

a long process. I'm being good. And

1:25:06

he was all like, you good with the kids. And

1:25:09

you gotta think, first of all, thanks Sam. I'm

1:25:12

way less masculine. Like

1:25:15

20, 30, 40 pounds lighter. You

1:25:17

got the blowout? I got hair, I got the blowout.

1:25:19

And then think about Dominican niggas. Oh yeah. Oh

1:25:22

yeah. Think about Dominican men. Okay. Wow,

1:25:25

boom, exactly. He's like,

1:25:27

oh, you're so good with children. You know

1:25:29

what I'm saying? And I'm like, you know

1:25:31

what that means? You know what that means? I

1:25:33

know. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

1:25:38

Oh my God. You're in for the teddy clog. Boom. So

1:25:41

then he started just sitting in my face. He's

1:25:43

like, oh, what are you doing next week? Do

1:25:45

you want to go out? And he tried to get my number,

1:25:48

but I was like, nah, David with cheese. So I think a

1:25:50

part of me knew I was about to turn to the dark

1:25:52

side of the forest. So I was like, I don't even need

1:25:54

to be playing these games. I'm

1:25:57

still figuring some shit out. And then he

1:25:59

left. I'm not doing all

1:26:01

that. I'm not doing all that. That's not what I

1:26:03

want to know. doing on a T-shirt shot in

1:26:05

the wild? It's crazy. I could've did that.

1:26:07

I thought that. The next thing I fucked was a nigga with his mattress

1:26:09

on the ground, so I blew it. Shout out

1:26:12

to me fucking up. That

1:26:15

was not what I should've did. You

1:26:17

could've been an amazing dude. I could've

1:26:19

been doing some other shit, but I

1:26:21

played myself. But I got a

1:26:24

sign that... You wilder. I got a sign that you're

1:26:26

a lot of it. Oh, no. You a beast, man.

1:26:29

Me too, man. What? Yo,

1:26:32

my nigga. Yo, that was crazy. Where did that happen?

1:26:34

And both of you said that shit. You said that

1:26:36

shit. I

1:26:38

believe every single molecule of that fucking story

1:26:40

be. Y'all listen. Hell,

1:26:42

I wannaISSure, a little bit. Y'all see it?

1:26:45

Oh, my God. I

1:26:47

Miraony. You

1:26:50

know what I'm saying? You only fix your phone?

1:26:54

Bro, you already know. I

1:26:57

could have made life happen for me really.

1:26:59

I'm playing around. Yo, what's poppin'?

1:27:02

Yo, listen, man. The

1:27:05

Celtics make some moves. You know what

1:27:07

I'm saying? The medical moves, you know

1:27:09

what I mean? You know what I'm

1:27:11

sayin'? Drew Holliday,

1:27:13

new member of the Celtics. You know what I'm saying? He

1:27:15

stopped by the Dream on Green show. Turned into a show.

1:27:17

You know what I'm saying? Fam all day. Yo,

1:27:20

did Dream on really choke her?

1:27:23

Yo, Michael. Yo, what's up,

1:27:26

man? Yo, what? I'm

1:27:29

just saying, he's so bad, man. Yo, his grandma

1:27:31

is so bad, man. He's a menace. I

1:27:34

don't even know what they're doing no more. Yeah, cool. So,

1:27:37

yeah, cool. That's crazy. Cool, man.

1:27:39

Oh, my gosh. Fine. Now,

1:27:42

yo. Fine. What's up, Drew?

1:27:44

Oh, shit. Drew's a company of

1:27:46

thieves now. You know what I'm saying? And

1:27:49

he went on Dream Show, who did

1:27:52

not choke these girls. And he

1:27:54

was saying that he didn't like how he

1:27:56

was traded from a Milwaukee.

1:28:00

You know what I'm saying? He said, at

1:28:02

least let me know 24 hours in advance,

1:28:04

not five minutes in advance. You know what I'm

1:28:06

saying? Maybe I'm asking for too much. So

1:28:09

is Drew valid in feeling a way

1:28:11

about how Milwaukee treated him or

1:28:14

is it like no

1:28:16

friends in business? There's no friends in business,

1:28:20

but there's a fine line between

1:28:24

respect and disrespect as

1:28:27

a player. I can accept

1:28:29

being traded, but like respect

1:28:32

is, if you say you respect me

1:28:35

as a player, if you say you respect your players,

1:28:39

give me, have a conversation with them, especially

1:28:43

a player of Drew's caliber who

1:28:46

did what he did in Milwaukee

1:28:48

and was a pivotal piece to Milwaukee

1:28:51

success. So yeah,

1:28:54

it's a fine line between that respect and

1:28:56

disrespect. And I do think that was disrespectful.

1:28:58

They should have respected him enough to be like,

1:29:01

give him some time. He, you know, if,

1:29:03

because if I know my, again, no

1:29:05

players, I know

1:29:08

Drew's situation. I know his family. I

1:29:10

know his kids. I know what's going on. I'm

1:29:13

involved in two players that's on my roster, not

1:29:15

just a paycheck. So

1:29:18

because I know these things, I got to give you

1:29:20

the respect as a man though, to

1:29:23

know that you got kids, you got a wife, you got family.

1:29:27

Let's, let's talk this out. Hey, we going to trade you.

1:29:30

You part of the tray. If this tray happens, you

1:29:33

will be part of the trade. Let

1:29:35

me just let you know. Like, let me give you some time

1:29:37

to get the kids out of school, work

1:29:39

with your family, go talk to your family. Not I'm

1:29:42

coming in to practice and know you call me

1:29:44

five minutes before the tray happens. Oh, I got

1:29:46

to hear about it on TV or some, what

1:29:49

was breaking the news. Like that ain't,

1:29:51

that ain't respect. You know what I'm saying? So

1:29:53

that's the disconnect when

1:29:56

it comes to organizations and the

1:29:58

players, like it has to be. be some

1:30:00

level of respect when it comes to making

1:30:03

these decisions. We're not saying that you

1:30:05

need to tell every... I mean, some people you gotta hurry up and

1:30:07

go. You gotta be a part of a package. But

1:30:10

when you have somebody in those people that's there,

1:30:12

that's been there, that you say you

1:30:14

respect at a high level, you

1:30:17

gotta have that conversation. Respect them

1:30:19

as a man. Right. Fuck the sport. I'm

1:30:21

changing your life. I gotta have some type

1:30:24

of heart and soul to

1:30:26

just... You're heartless and soulless because

1:30:28

if I could just say, yo, you out of here

1:30:31

and not take into consideration

1:30:33

your family, your situation, what's

1:30:36

gonna happen next, what's going on, your

1:30:38

kids in school, business

1:30:40

decisions, partnerships. I'm

1:30:42

not taking into account none of that shit.

1:30:45

It's just I'm gonna do what's best for

1:30:47

this team and this organization at the moment.

1:30:49

So yeah, I do think it should

1:30:51

have been a conversation, not

1:30:53

five minutes before. Not even 24 hours. Nah.

1:30:56

That's crazy. I gotta uproot a

1:30:58

lot and you're a person with a family and all that shit

1:31:00

too. So you know what it would take to do that. Yeah,

1:31:03

you're right. It's respect. Yeah,

1:31:05

it's respect, man. And

1:31:08

that's the fucked up part I don't like

1:31:10

about the game. Well, about

1:31:12

the business side of it. You

1:31:15

say you respect our

1:31:17

players and we got our players back.

1:31:21

But at the end of the day, the business trumps all of that.

1:31:23

You're in a press conference like, yeah, you know. And

1:31:27

a lot of times it'd be people to

1:31:30

go make those decisions that don't really want to

1:31:32

make those decisions. So now

1:31:34

it breaks the barrier between me and

1:31:37

you. It's me and your relationship. I

1:31:39

can't fuck with you no more. And

1:31:42

I'm just a messenger. And I'm just so now the

1:31:44

messenger gets shot. You

1:31:46

know what I'm saying? The messenger gets shot in

1:31:48

those situations. And that messes up relationships down

1:31:51

the line. You know what I'm saying? Shit that

1:31:53

me and the GM or president made kind

1:31:56

of built this relationship, this friendship, this

1:31:58

rapport and this level of respect. And

1:32:01

now it's gone. That's crazy. Like you ain't

1:32:03

never give me a heads up. Yeah I

1:32:05

seen that shit in baseball one time where it's just like this dude

1:32:07

found out he got traded in the middle of

1:32:09

a game and He hit a double

1:32:12

and he was standing at second base crying bro It was

1:32:14

they zoomed in on him and bro was in there crying

1:32:16

in the outfield and shit I was just like I think

1:32:18

it's get traded on the plane Crazy

1:32:21

nigga on the plane. That's crazy. Yeah you

1:32:23

in the air But yo,

1:32:25

bro, you got traded like as soon as you land they

1:32:27

get you don't stay on the airport Stand

1:32:31

Airport like Wow,

1:32:33

we got a connector flight. Yo, we got your

1:32:35

flight. All right Like

1:32:40

what that's your type of happens They just send you and then

1:32:42

they like we'll take care of your life over here and ship

1:32:44

it to you Just go like when you get kicked out of an office It's

1:32:47

like you got 30 days like you got you know

1:32:49

Like whatever you get traded to you probably got like

1:32:51

a window short window of 30 to 60 days

1:32:54

or whatever with a team That you know the team has

1:32:56

to like take care of

1:32:58

certain situations travel you to that

1:33:00

city You know to me

1:33:02

put you up why you have your transition

1:33:04

and so help you find apartments

1:33:07

and you know places to stay but Once

1:33:09

you get ready on your own like you a

1:33:11

lot of times family stays back Because

1:33:14

it's just too much of a change

1:33:16

like so you family stay back So

1:33:18

now you on the road or

1:33:20

somebody like dame Miller Who

1:33:22

was like I don't do shit in Milwaukee like it

1:33:24

wasn't a shot at Milwaukee It was just like the

1:33:26

way that that shit went down affects that and people

1:33:28

don't understand I know what's for me.

1:33:31

That's it. That's it affects what I got

1:33:33

SNO. They was like you need to move

1:33:35

in week So

1:33:37

I did just leave and leave my fiance in LA

1:33:40

Yeah, and I just had to go to New York and

1:33:42

I was living at a hotel I was at the club quarters right by 30

1:33:44

rock Living out of

1:33:46

hotel going to work and she just in LA trying

1:33:48

to like shut our life down. Yeah Listen

1:33:57

awesome awesome awesome pop culture

1:33:59

shit You know what I'm saying? This

1:34:02

is very important. This shit came out, a lot of people was talking about it.

1:34:05

Metro Boomin in Future, they dropped the

1:34:07

highly anticipated We Don't Trust You album

1:34:09

got a lot of features on it. You know what

1:34:11

I mean? Weekend, Rick Ross, but the

1:34:13

record like that. Got Kendrick Lamar on

1:34:15

it and he's over here, he

1:34:18

let the Mac go. He was just

1:34:21

like cooking everybody. A

1:34:23

lot he says that's notables. Motherfuck

1:34:25

the big three, nigga it's just big

1:34:27

me. Yes. So

1:34:30

that's like a little sub that, this motherfuckers becoming

1:34:33

king of the subs because that's like a straight

1:34:35

shot at the Drake

1:34:37

and J Cole joint where he's just

1:34:39

like yo who's the big three? First

1:34:41

person shooter? First person shooter? Who's the big

1:34:44

three? Kendrick, Aubrey and me? He

1:34:46

said that. I'm Muhammad Ali. He didn't say he was

1:34:48

Muhammad Ali. Don't keep that off. Yeah, Muhammad Ali. Then he

1:34:50

separated himself. He said that and he's like I have

1:34:52

nothing to do with y'all. I'm

1:34:57

going to keep this real competitive.

1:35:03

I ain't still shopping still. Right, right. And that's the shit.

1:35:06

Because he's done this before. You know what I mean? He

1:35:08

did it with the control verse with Big Sean. He did

1:35:10

it in that freestyle. They all do it though. They

1:35:12

all shoot the shots like clubs. They all the subs but it's like I'm here for it. No,

1:35:15

no, no. What was your question? It's a good

1:35:17

for the game. And it's a good for the game. It's a good for the

1:35:19

game. It's a good for the game. It's a

1:35:21

good for the game. It's a good for the game. It's a

1:35:23

good for the game. It's a good for the game. It's a

1:35:25

good for the game. And it's like if you hit for it,

1:35:28

yeah, it's good for the game. I'm just like. We

1:35:30

actually be on the action stand. And

1:35:33

that's the shit my like. But my shit is like. Listen,

1:35:35

you said when you said y'all was born in 82, I

1:35:37

said, oh shit, I was born in 83. We

1:35:39

right here. You know what I'm saying? We all,

1:35:41

you know what I'm saying? Similar, you know what I'm saying? Right.

1:35:44

My shit, my favorite shit back in the day on

1:35:46

the radio was like, yo,

1:35:48

D Block got beef with G-Unit. Right?

1:35:51

So what they do is D

1:35:54

Block is going up to Funk Flex or

1:35:56

the DJ Clue or whoever at

1:35:59

8 o'clock at night. You know what I'm saying?

1:36:01

And they freestyling, bro. They throwing on them, you know

1:36:03

what I mean? Like, Houshacha,

1:36:06

Benjamin's, like all these crazy beats. And

1:36:08

they just freestyling, going at each other,

1:36:11

rapping. And that was my shit.

1:36:13

And then you get a tape, you get a

1:36:15

crew tape or whatever, and there'd be a freestyle

1:36:17

on there and the freestyle is like straight dissing.

1:36:19

Them desert soulmates taste was crazy. Woo! You

1:36:22

know what I'm saying? And to me, that was like sport. You

1:36:24

know what I mean? It's just like, yo, go on Bar for

1:36:26

Bar. You know what I mean? It was

1:36:28

like the element of like, yo, this, yo,

1:36:30

this about to fade from the hub, beat is going to be dangerous.

1:36:32

You know what I'm saying? I

1:36:35

know how. But that's the evolution of the

1:36:37

game. That's the evolution of the game. And every, in every

1:36:39

industry is the evolution of the game. It

1:36:41

started from battles and it

1:36:43

started battles on the ones and tools. That

1:36:45

was a battle in hip hop. I

1:36:48

don't know if this is a battle though. Nah, no, this is

1:36:50

not. I'm just trying to get to the evolution

1:36:52

when I'm in. It's the evolution. So you dealing

1:36:54

with, you dealing with students of the hip hop

1:36:57

industry, the hip hop games going back to the

1:36:59

forefathers of this shit. Right. So

1:37:01

now they know they study battles and they

1:37:03

study how to go to war with niggas and they

1:37:05

study when they shoot a shot and how to shoot

1:37:08

a shot and put a put a

1:37:10

sub on to put a disc on a, on a

1:37:12

major record, like on the, on the, on a hit

1:37:14

record. It's constantly in our, you get

1:37:16

what I'm saying? They studied all of those

1:37:18

nuances on the auto war and how

1:37:20

to battle. So K-Dot is

1:37:22

just probably was sitting back seeing

1:37:25

the landscape of what's going on. I think

1:37:27

Kendrick, I think Kendrick just

1:37:29

don't like that nigga. I can

1:37:31

see it. Kendrick.

1:37:35

Yeah. It's

1:37:37

the whole album. Right. Yeah.

1:37:40

Well, like it's, I'm saying, my thing

1:37:42

is I'm saying Kendrick is a

1:37:44

real student of the game. Oh yeah. Drake

1:37:47

is a real student. J Cole is a real student of the game. Right.

1:37:51

And it's coming at it from a competitive standpoint

1:37:53

on top of like, I don't care if y'all

1:37:55

like me or not, but I'm pulling

1:37:58

coattails here. Like this is. what

1:38:00

I'm doing. I'm making niggas uncomfortable. So

1:38:02

if you really like that, it's your time right

1:38:04

now to show me you really like that. And

1:38:06

he put that in the song. Okay, you hear

1:38:09

it? Let me see. It's not

1:38:12

no beef. It's no war.

1:38:14

This is rap. Nigga, let's really get down

1:38:16

to the nitty gritty of it. You got

1:38:18

30, you got 27 hours to get back

1:38:20

on the song. You get what I'm

1:38:22

saying? That type of battle. If you like

1:38:24

that, the niggas responding in today. I feel

1:38:26

like that. I feel like it's like the window is

1:38:29

short. It's short. You ain't got

1:38:31

15 days. I don't even want to hear it now with Drake. Say

1:38:33

something. I'm keeping it. I

1:38:35

do. I don't. I do. I'll

1:38:37

listen, but I'll be like, I do because

1:38:39

Drake is a clever nigga. Like, but

1:38:41

you don't think it'll take away from it. Like if

1:38:43

it takes three weeks, now if he got

1:38:45

to come back tomorrow, if it takes three

1:38:48

weeks, like what knives and James did, it

1:38:50

was like, that's what I miss. That's the

1:38:52

only thing I miss about all this shit. It's

1:38:54

like niggas would do that shit in the bus.

1:38:56

Like what that nigga say about tonight. I'm

1:39:00

like, I want that. It's too, it's

1:39:03

too, it's too strategic now. Like it's

1:39:05

like, it's a strategy. Like, bro, research,

1:39:07

try to find all this information first.

1:39:10

They sent it in spies.

1:39:13

You know, also everybody got their

1:39:15

own personal team, right? I mean,

1:39:17

meaning like they own fan

1:39:20

base is their team. Our fan base is

1:39:22

our own team, right? So our

1:39:24

fan base going to bring me shit

1:39:26

that goes against, you know what I'm saying? And

1:39:28

it's like, don't keep feeding that feeding that feeding

1:39:30

that until it comes to a point where

1:39:32

it's like, okay, these niggas are talking

1:39:34

out their neck. Don't let me pull a coffin out.

1:39:36

Like it's like that opening

1:39:39

line may be the hardest line in the

1:39:41

long, long time in the rap and the

1:39:43

battle. Like that was crazy.

1:39:45

But Kendra been wanting it with Drake. Yeah,

1:39:48

because he didn't want it with Drake. Yeah.

1:39:50

But I Drake supposed to be

1:39:52

that he's that he is that and he,

1:39:54

and he talks about, I'm one away from,

1:39:56

I'm one away from Mike. He's coming out

1:39:59

and be like, Yeah, fight me. I'm

1:40:01

one away from my Beat

1:40:06

it You know what I

1:40:08

mean? Like it's like they shooting shots at

1:40:10

each other Yeah, so I like

1:40:12

it because if it's gonna

1:40:14

keep it competitive and keep it that's gonna

1:40:16

fuck the industry up How caked out one

1:40:19

line fuck the industry up got the industry

1:40:21

in shambles right now It up Kendra's like

1:40:23

shit like Kendra for like rapping that

1:40:25

day. Yeah, and future back on

1:40:27

his shit I'll call a straight. I

1:40:29

play cold caught a straight. Yeah, but cold caught the

1:40:32

cold caught the eye Okay, maybe you here like I

1:40:34

want to see what you part of this Energy

1:40:38

between Cold

1:40:42

caught a like you want to be involved with this

1:40:51

It was one of those like alright man, I

1:40:53

like it man, I like it man I think

1:40:55

we call this more like we were saying like

1:40:57

that's competitive Like rap let's go ball for ball

1:40:59

because cold is more known as a I

1:41:02

think it's respect too. Like I think k-dot

1:41:04

really respect cold And

1:41:07

and and vice versa, I think they all

1:41:09

respect Each other's pin game, you

1:41:11

know what I'm saying? Like but it's just

1:41:13

certain shit that I don't know But I don't know

1:41:15

that we don't know you can shoot with shit at

1:41:18

drake That's all about that we have to admit that

1:41:20

k-dot He got a thing. He got

1:41:22

a thing. He be at that man and he's

1:41:24

like come fight me But he's not you know

1:41:26

what the crazy shit is though. He's not being

1:41:28

messy with it though. He's keeping it like rap

1:41:31

Like, you know first person shooters like you

1:41:33

know what I mean? Hope you got triple

1:41:36

switches Bro, we said

1:41:38

a lot It's crazy how y'all

1:41:40

getting buried in the cave with all them knives

1:41:42

They go to these bets and it's very I

1:41:44

feel like the difference though between it is like

1:41:46

so like look at the pusher beef, right? Well

1:41:48

pusher was like yo, bro. This

1:41:50

is personal now. Like i'm airing out shit

1:41:52

that you don't want out there With

1:41:55

k-dot it's rap. Yeah And they're all getting

1:41:57

their own k-bars. I'm just talking directly to

1:41:59

you K-dots not doing no. I'm pulling

1:42:01

out your secrets. No We

1:42:04

gonna keep this on pin. Here's how I feel about

1:42:06

you I don't mean I can't like you but this

1:42:08

is how I feel about you as we are So

1:42:10

you show me different? I'm gonna keep doing this. I'm

1:42:12

gonna feel like this. Yeah I

1:42:17

feel like he would come back Drake will come back with some

1:42:19

shit. And if it was hard You