0:01

1.6 billion people that live

0:03

in China and put a statue of

0:05

me, two

0:08

statues, a museum. For

0:10

me, I'm like, nah, you lying. You on

0:13

that Vaseline. I know

0:15

Vaseline. Y'all, welcome

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back to the show.

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We're talking about the American people.

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We're talking about the American people.

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We're talking about the American people.

0:26

We're talking about the American people. Y'all,

0:29

welcome back to 7PM in Brooklyn. I'm Carmelo

0:31

Anthony, here with my co-host. That's right. It's

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your boy, The Kid Mero, the human do-rag.

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This is a wave sports and entertainment original

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presented by Prize Picks, and we got a special

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guest in the building. But I'm going to introduce him

0:43

today. Get him. Let me get him. Let me go.

0:45

Who normally do it? He normally do the intro. He

0:47

normally do it. He normally do it. He normally do

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it. He's going to be stepping out right away. He's

0:51

going to be stepping out. He's stepping out right away.

0:53

He's stepping out right away. Listen up. Listen up. Listen

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up. We got two-time

0:59

NBA All-Star, two-time

1:02

All-NBA member, three-time

1:05

CBA champion, three-time

1:08

CBA champion, three-time

1:10

CBA Finals MVP, and

1:13

Brooklyn's own Stefan

1:15

Marlberry. Yes, sir. Yeah.

1:18

Peace. Woo. I'm

1:21

going to say peace, man. They've been waiting. They've

1:24

been waiting for us to sit

1:26

down and chop it up. I

1:30

loved it. I loved what I saw the other day. I

1:33

can't lie. You being back in

1:35

the garden. But

1:37

I love the

1:40

reception that you got. You

1:42

understand? Like, for you to feel that love and for

1:44

you to step back into the garden like that, how

1:46

did that make you feel the other night? I

1:49

was touched. I was... I

1:54

was moved into a different space in my

1:56

life. I needed that. My

1:58

mom always says... You know, people

2:01

always joke about how we always talk about

2:04

what my mom always say. We always

2:06

reference her and she always says

2:08

some things in life, stuff on,

2:11

you want. But there's some things in

2:13

life you need. And I needed that.

2:17

I needed that because

2:19

a lot had went on and

2:21

me being a New York kid, growing

2:23

up as a New York basketball

2:27

player, using New

2:29

York, the guarding as my

2:31

stomping ground. Literally my court

2:33

name is called the garden

2:36

in Coney Island. You know, people travel

2:38

to play at this court called

2:40

the garden. So to

2:42

be able to step back into the garden,

2:45

it gave me the chance to be able

2:47

to grow again. Because that's what the

2:49

garden is. People come from all over the world.

2:52

You give the opportunity to see things

2:54

that you've never seen before. And

2:56

growing up in that

2:58

place, going to that place, playing in

3:01

my high school championship, winning there, to

3:04

be able to be recognized the

3:06

way how I was recognized. It

3:11

was special only for us. You

3:13

know, people from New York, people who watch

3:16

the ups, the downs, all

3:19

of that was part of my learning

3:21

curve, my time to

3:23

manifest and grow as a

3:26

human being who lives and makes

3:28

mistakes and go through

3:30

things, to grow through things. And

3:34

for me to be able to allow

3:36

kids to see that, you

3:38

know, it shows, you know, for

3:40

me going back into the garden that I was

3:42

able to move forward and they were able to

3:44

move forward and we were able to move forward

3:47

at the same time. That's a fact. Yeah.

3:49

So it was special. It felt

3:52

like a full circle moment, like being at peace. You

3:54

know what I mean? To find the peace. Was

3:57

that the feeling that you got? You know, yes,

3:59

for sure. For me, it took

4:01

me 14 years

4:04

to build up that piece because I

4:06

was basically like the

4:09

son of New York. The

4:12

real son of New York, the

4:14

real authentic from the water from Coney

4:17

Island. It's a real root thing. I

4:21

had to reflect on the

4:23

things that happened. I was talking to my

4:25

sister. She said, Stephanie, when you reflect, you

4:27

could just say you reflect on things that

4:30

you said that you thought of them

4:32

things but you shouldn't have said it.

4:35

I said, well, I don't really feel that way

4:37

because what I said, it was a message that

4:39

needed to be heard from other people. Those

4:42

people needed to hear that. I may

4:44

have worded it differently so

4:47

that when people felt it, it could have felt

4:49

differently. Being able to be

4:51

from Coney Island and be from New

4:53

York and to have this

4:56

full circle moment to be back in the

4:58

garden, to sit there where it was like

5:00

punishment. I've

5:03

gotten in the best shape of my career. I

5:06

was running mountains in California. I

5:08

was in tip top shape, sprinting

5:10

up the Runyon Canyon. People looking

5:12

like, yo, you see this kid?

5:15

He went from this to that. People

5:17

watching this transformation. It

5:19

wasn't IG like that then but that was my

5:22

work. That was my passion. I was putting forth

5:24

that to come back to my city to put

5:26

on. Then I had to

5:28

sit there and I had to watch. What

5:31

that feel like? It

5:33

was hard. Like I said, I was hurt.

5:35

I was hurt that I thought

5:38

that it was going to be something different.

5:41

I thought I was going to be able to have

5:43

this opportunity to be able to put on. That's

5:46

not how God wanted it to go. He

5:49

didn't know that that was it. It's what

5:52

I wanted. But it was what he wanted

5:54

was a completely different movement. He was like,

5:56

no, I got something different for you. Here

5:59

I am for you. fighting at that time though? Huh?

6:01

Were you fighting that at that time? I

6:03

was fighting everything. I was dealing with depression.

6:06

I was dealing with wanting not to be

6:08

here because of being in

6:10

this shell that I've

6:12

grown to love and to want to

6:14

feed it this way of life of

6:17

how we were brought up and how

6:19

we were raised. But then

6:21

going someplace else, it showed me where

6:23

I was willing to go

6:25

someplace else and be completely vulnerable to love

6:27

and to be able to give

6:30

and to be able to allow people to know that

6:32

I'm just coming here

6:35

to play ball and just rebuild

6:38

when I went to China. I wasn't going there

6:40

with no expectations or thinking that I was going

6:42

to get something. And my

6:45

mom said, hey, God will give you more

6:47

than your heart desires. I was like two

6:49

statues, a museum, green card,

6:53

great wall, honorary friendship

6:55

award, key

6:57

to the city of Beijing, access to

6:59

do things that people in their country

7:01

can't do because of doing something for

7:04

the capital

7:10

of Beijing and them just wanting to

7:12

win one championship and bring them three

7:14

and four years. I

7:17

can't express or explain that type of

7:19

feeling. So the gratitude to go full

7:21

circle and to come to Madison Square

7:24

Garden and to be received

7:26

that type of love, I look at

7:28

it as it being part of the

7:30

evolution and movement going global and being

7:32

able to allow kids

7:35

to see that you can do

7:37

something someplace else and then you

7:39

can come back because

7:41

this is home. You took a, to

7:43

me that's, to

7:45

me now, right, looking

7:48

back, it's like

7:50

that's a very honorable thing to

7:52

do. But at that

7:55

time, we didn't understand what

7:57

you was doing, right, It was

7:59

that.. I can look back

8:01

and say. Oh. Wow. Sit at. What?

8:03

Amazes my as by okay. He

8:06

figured it out. Early. Way

8:09

early before. People's. Even thinking

8:11

about. Things. You know, I'm

8:13

a business out of of of of the game. That.

8:17

Transition. But. You

8:19

to decide that like I'm going back and

8:21

I'm going over. Italy. When

8:23

I'm done, I'm going over to

8:25

China. It's like. What? Was

8:27

that transition like did you have any your

8:29

mind already laid out or you just said

8:31

fuck it I'm. I. Was I'm

8:34

going over are always new global

8:36

because our play with the gauchos.

8:38

so i was exposed to go

8:40

into France hawaii know it's a

8:42

lil Brussels something gotta lay. Down

8:45

the line I have no

8:47

I haven't at. Exposures are

8:49

legit. Say no to be

8:52

able to. You.

8:54

Know tap into a space where

8:56

you're able to understand of the

8:58

little kids live in other places

9:00

at a young age cause I

9:02

was very sensitive towards. How.

9:05

People view me living in Coney Island

9:07

mama me live in an uprising like

9:09

it was luxury. I was clean the

9:11

a good food. You know with

9:13

any will every day we wanted the going

9:15

to Red Lobster that was a tree. his

9:17

business effects villagers either. Eventually. Gonna

9:22

say so to go someplace

9:24

and experience kids living. Hum.

9:27

Lae outdoor Tony Allen his bag

9:29

you back from Argentina Him: ah.

9:32

Thank. You for making me go to the

9:34

Olympics for that but I was going to

9:36

my prom says and are you not Yugoslav

9:38

Olympics their you Nagorno Brown to go make

9:40

a baby For Why you go make a

9:42

baby Now. Some

9:44

know what I was on a beginner's guide but you

9:47

got no. We go this way as you go in

9:49

there. Thought. god eyes and seen i'm

9:51

wondering that that was would you know that oh

9:53

those nine loan or you when the nineties when

9:55

an idea this is in the nineties i went

9:57

when of our in our was caused by coast

10:00

You know, going on

10:02

that trip, teaching us about other

10:05

kids, how they live. Seeing

10:08

that, coming from Coney Island, because he knew you

10:10

think you got it bad. Now you don't got

10:12

it bad. Let me show you these kids that

10:14

don't got no shoes, no food. They live in

10:17

like different type of areas, cave

10:19

style settings, but comfortable for

10:21

them. You know, eating

10:23

cheese and bread was a highlight. It was

10:25

a classic. And I'm

10:27

like, what? I'm getting fried chicken, macaroni,

10:30

collard greens and yams. And we complaining

10:32

about the projects. I'm like, you're complaining?

10:34

Nah, when I get home, I kiss

10:36

my mom and I'm like, man, thank

10:38

you so much. Thank

10:40

you so, so, so. She said, mm-hmm,

10:43

see? You saw somebody else live

10:45

a different way, huh? Gave

10:47

all my socks, all my pens,

10:49

all my USA clothes. They

10:51

was like, take all of the kids had them wearing

10:53

USA stuff when I was leaving. It was like, thank

10:56

you, Barbary. Thank you for all of the gear, all

10:58

of the clothes. I was like, oh, this is crazy.

11:00

I ain't do nothing. I'm like, this stuff is free. This

11:03

is free. You walking

11:05

around with USA clothes or are you

11:07

from Argentina? Yeah, but you had a different,

11:09

I mean, you had, that was a different type of

11:12

enlightenment that you had. Yeah,

11:14

I was at an early age. I

11:16

was blessed. You know, I come from

11:18

a family of, well, people don't know,

11:20

because I had older brothers, my oldest

11:23

brother played against Mike Rijordan. He

11:25

played with Dominique Wilkins at Georgia. So, you

11:28

know, my brother knew what it was

11:30

to try to go to the league.

11:32

But that mentality, that mind frame, when

11:34

you don't make it, you just instill

11:36

that into your next generation. And

11:39

then the hunger from it, from you not

11:41

making it and being frustrated from not making

11:43

it, but taking that and then giving it

11:45

to the next brother in line and

11:48

then the next brother in line. So I

11:50

come from three brothers who could

11:52

not crack the code. But

11:54

they said, we got somebody who can. When

11:57

I came home from, when I

11:59

came home from the hospital, my

12:02

brothers put me inside of a crib. I

12:04

was like literally a project.

12:06

My brothers put me inside of a crib

12:08

and they put a basketball in my crib.

12:12

So what you think as a baby, the baby, what the

12:14

baby is gonna do when the ball is in the crib?

12:16

It's automatic for the baby to touch

12:19

the basketball and touch whatever's inside the

12:21

crib. So I'm playing with

12:23

the ball throughout my whole time period.

12:25

My mom is carrying while my brother's

12:28

a hoover. So I'm internalizing

12:30

while I'm in my mom's stomach.

12:33

You know, what's happening, what's going on

12:35

on the earth. The ball is bouncing

12:37

inside my house. So this is something that

12:39

is going on inside of my home,

12:42

inside the projects, 2940 West 31st

12:44

Street apartment 4G. And

12:49

frequencies. You know what's up? Yeah. So

12:52

being that, you know, we're in

12:54

this space and now I'm

12:56

the one that they're saying, this

12:59

is gonna be the one. My mom, she

13:01

worked with this Buddhist lady. She was, she

13:04

worked with my mom for probably like over 30 years. And

13:08

my mom, every

13:10

time I would come up there, she worked at this

13:12

place called Roberta Bright. It was a day kiss. And

13:14

then my mom took her children all her life. Kids

13:16

now older than me coming, oh, mom, what's up? I'm

13:18

like, that's not your mom. That's my mom. But

13:22

the love that they have, I love it. I'm

13:24

joking. But when I see them, I'm like, wow,

13:26

you really was a mother to so many children.

13:28

You don't even realize it. Cause you're like, you're

13:31

the baby. She's like, boy, I'm 50 years

13:33

older than you, get out here. Like, you

13:35

don't know what went on down these times. So,

13:37

you know, my mom doing

13:39

that and me being able to like

13:43

experience growing up like that.

13:46

You know, like I

13:49

could go on forever about that but

13:52

you just get, you

13:54

get caught in it. Getting enlightened

13:56

in those moments from,

13:58

you know, having

14:00

the opportunity to share

14:03

those moments. It's a lot because

14:06

you're not just exchanging energies and

14:08

ideas, you're literally giving kids power

14:10

and hope. It's

14:13

a lot. Yeah, man. When you said that

14:15

about giving away the USA gear, that shit,

14:17

it hit. Because every time I would

14:19

go to DR in the summertime, like every year, still

14:21

to this day, I

14:24

go there every summer and I pack an extra

14:26

suitcase to just close. And when I

14:28

get there, all the kids that's running around in

14:30

those shoes, whatever, it's automatic. Yo, my kids hand

14:32

me down stuff here. It's

14:34

automatic. And bro, in the faces, I know

14:37

you remember, the faces on them, they

14:39

just like, no, like you just

14:41

gave them, like you

14:43

know what I mean? They're an Olympic medal type,

14:45

you know what I mean? They just appreciate things

14:47

on a different level, man. And it gives you

14:49

a good perspective. It's super big. But that's where

14:51

it come from. I mean, and being enlightened during

14:53

that time, I've had some real enlightened

14:56

experiences, being able

14:59

to go to

15:01

different countries, having that

15:03

experience and then going for the,

15:05

playing in the Olympics during a

15:07

specific time. You know,

15:10

that's game changer. You know, when your mind

15:12

is prepped and you're aware and you understand

15:14

it, and when you go to other countries,

15:16

instead of you saying hello, you say, oh

15:19

la, or if you go to China, you say, ni

15:21

hao, you know, or if

15:23

you go to Philippines and you say salami

15:26

po, or somebody do something, just learning

15:28

one word or two words, people

15:30

can connect with that. You know

15:32

what I'm saying? They can connect with it and you learn

15:34

a different way of how

15:37

human beings operate. They can appreciate that.

15:39

It's not going to be, yo, you

15:41

should know this. No, you

15:43

should. You should. Like,

15:46

you go to another place, like you should know

15:48

this. You don't see what I want? Like, you

15:50

know what I'm saying? Why

15:52

you don't got English? Why you don't

15:55

got English? It's crazy. That's crazy. You

15:57

know? That makes sense, though. That makes

15:59

sense. go so fast, you don't

16:01

even realize it because this is, that's why I

16:03

said when you grow up a certain

16:05

way, but when you get into

16:07

another space in another area of your

16:10

life where you not on that same

16:12

vibration and people don't move

16:14

like that, it changes. It's

16:17

a big difference. You know what I'm

16:19

saying? And the difference is

16:21

that people just

16:23

don't think that way and

16:26

it's okay that people don't think that

16:28

way. You still should be okay with

16:30

people not thinking and feeling the

16:32

way how you feel only. But

16:35

so I'm saying it makes sense because

16:40

it makes sense to me now because in 2004, when

16:43

we was on that Olympic team, he was

16:45

talking this to

16:47

us back

16:49

at a bus every day and

16:51

we were like, oh, snap, what the fuck, man? Yo,

16:55

all right, man, all right. He's like, no,

16:57

like barking on us. Y'all gotta understand. Y'all gotta

16:59

fucking listen. We like, yo, man, look. Nobody

17:03

wanna hear it. It's

17:06

a teachable moment right now. Yeah,

17:09

and we used to sit in the back of the bus.

17:11

And I just hit the back

17:13

window. The back window, we used

17:15

to sit right next to you, barking

17:18

the whole time. So

17:20

now it makes sense of the shit that you were

17:22

saying, not the shit but what you were speaking at

17:24

that point in time based

17:27

off of what you just said, but

17:29

Gasson's giving you that opportunity to travel

17:31

to Argentina, seeing and

17:34

being enlightened and understanding different

17:36

worlds and different environments, different walks

17:38

of life, coming back,

17:40

understanding how privileged we really are,

17:43

even living in the projects after seeing

17:46

what you have seen. And

17:48

oh, for you already

17:50

10 years in on the

17:52

literature and thinking and enlightenment. So by the

17:54

time you get to us, we set, we

17:56

18, 19. I

18:00

try to sit and talk to an 18, 19 year

18:02

old about that today and be like, yo, man, hey,

18:04

man, get the fuck out. You're getting the balloon and

18:06

we got it. Right. Right. You're getting the wing down.

18:08

Yeah, whatever. I got you. I got you. I got

18:10

you. But that's

18:14

fucking me up right now, because now

18:16

I can understand what he was actually

18:18

saying. So it

18:20

actually helps me going

18:23

back and shuffling and

18:25

shifting and understanding more

18:27

of that age group and

18:29

how to connect with them and not just preaching

18:31

to them and not just giving

18:34

them information and not making them understand they

18:36

don't have a comprehension about it. And

18:38

this is what he was doing. So I'm over here bugging

18:40

out because it took me right back to

18:43

the bus rides with me,

18:45

broad D way. We back up. Yo, man, it was

18:47

fucking Steph talking about, man. Damn, what

18:49

is this nigga talking about? No, we hear you, Steph. He

18:53

going, going, going, going. No, but you

18:56

don't understand. Right. But you don't understand.

18:59

Y'all got to understand your power. Got to notice.

19:01

Once you know your strength on earth, it's like

19:04

you know your superpower as a human

19:06

being. The

19:12

law of attraction of

19:16

people when they see other people because

19:18

they're capable of doing something that they

19:20

can't do. If they could do what

19:22

it is that they do, then

19:25

it wouldn't be the same. It would basically be,

19:27

oh, I got the swag too. But because you

19:29

got the money, you got the game, you got

19:31

all of that, that puts you in

19:33

the category. No, it doesn't. Just

19:35

because you got money, because you got

19:37

clothes, that don't make you fly. It

19:41

don't make you dope and it don't make you fly. You

19:43

could just be a shell with a lot of money, with

19:45

a lot of hype, but you

19:47

have no spirit. You

19:50

have no flyness or coolness about you

19:52

when you really speak and talk. It's

19:54

not authentic and real when you're talking

19:56

to people who are in the

19:58

room who really know. You know

20:00

what I'm saying? That happens just because you

20:02

got all of the praise and accolades that

20:05

don't give you that armor, that don't give

20:07

you that shield. You

20:09

know what I'm saying? And those people

20:11

usually, you know, they don't want to

20:13

associate. These guys had all of the

20:15

stuff, they got all of that, which

20:17

is why him, LeBron, and Wade, why

20:19

they do so well. Not

20:21

because of what I said, not because they

20:23

listened to what I said. I was just

20:26

another voice. I just was a voice in

20:28

the back that I was doing my job

20:30

from where God got me pointed

20:32

to do and is telling

20:34

them what I've seen so they could be

20:36

better. You got what

20:38

I'm saying? So for me to see what

20:40

they've done and the things that they've accomplished

20:43

and what they will continue to accomplish is

20:46

what we supposed to do. My

20:48

delivery and deliverance is different

20:50

from everybody else's deliverance and

20:53

how they say what it is that they're going

20:55

to say. I go a different path from saying

20:57

it. So when you hear it, if something happens,

20:59

you're going to think like, yeah, I remember stuff

21:01

that's beautiful. You don't got to tell

21:03

everybody it's not for everybody. It's for me and you,

21:06

it's for us. If it helped

21:08

and it helped propel and move you, move

21:11

the post further towards scoring a

21:15

field goal or a touchdown,

21:17

I did my job. Going off

21:19

of that, man, it's like we

21:21

got something that we call the 7 p.m. moment.

21:24

I mean, 7 p.m. in Brooklyn, we got

21:26

a 7 p.m. moment. It's a moment in

21:28

your career and your life

21:30

where you focus,

21:33

you locked in, you say, listen, this is

21:35

a goal I'm trying to achieve. Right

21:40

now, this moment is the catalyst to

21:42

that. You know what I mean? This is how I'm going

21:44

to get there. What was it for you? Was

21:47

it Argentina and the Gauchos? Was it Lincoln?

21:49

Was it GT? You know what I mean?

21:51

Was it? The only

21:54

thing that pushed me to

21:56

that space was getting my

21:58

mother out of it. of

22:00

the projects. It's

22:02

nothing else. When

22:07

you got roaches and you got mice and

22:11

it's not because of how you live, it's

22:13

because of how other people live, you

22:16

know it's not your fault. You

22:18

know what I'm saying? So it's like, I gotta

22:20

remove myself from this

22:23

situation and no

22:26

one is gonna do that for me. So

22:28

I don't wanna live in this situation. I don't

22:30

wanna clean up mice because my brothers are not

22:32

there and I'm the only one in the house

22:34

and they know I'm the last person that wanna

22:37

do that. But my mother's

22:39

like, it ain't gonna start stinking stuff or it'll

22:41

start stinking, we not gonna do that. Shit, something

22:43

just three. We

22:45

not gonna do that. You gotta get that up and you

22:48

gotta go put that in the center of your head. It's

22:50

just some dice roll on the track. We

22:53

not gonna do that. We're both so screwed

22:55

up. We are not gonna do that. No,

22:58

we gonna remove this little

23:00

dude. He got the go. I'm

23:03

like, you gotta move the washing machine

23:06

and after you do that, then you

23:08

gotta wash behind it, you gotta bleach

23:10

it. Then you end up cleaning the

23:12

whole area. Like you gotta get that

23:14

two or three more in there. I'm

23:16

like, it's a whole situation. So

23:18

I use those, I use that as few.

23:24

Those are my turning seven o'clock moments

23:27

when I was running up the pissy staircases and

23:29

running on the beach. It's

23:36

a reason why I did what I did for

23:38

my community and giving back. I didn't give back

23:40

because that's what I'm supposed to do. I

23:42

gave back because that's what I felt like I

23:44

wanted somebody else to do. Not

23:48

because I'm supposed to do. It's a

23:50

lot of things we're supposed to do. But

23:52

what we're going to do and

23:54

what we're supposed to do are

23:56

different things. For

23:59

me, to be able to have the

24:02

experiences that I've had growing up playing

24:04

basketball. You know, I

24:06

just, I take every

24:08

moment from where

24:11

I come from, which is Coney Island,

24:13

like how I grew up, how I

24:15

was raised, and with

24:17

that type of fuel, you can, it

24:20

can power you up across the

24:22

globe, 7,000 miles away,

24:24

you know, where you can create other

24:26

things because that mind frame and that

24:29

disposition that pushed you to, you know,

24:31

at that 7 o'clock moment, you

24:34

know, 7 o'clock, you know, what you

24:36

listen to, what you're doing, there's a game or

24:38

something going on, so, you know, you

24:41

prepping getting ready for a nickname, college,

24:44

cues, somebody going beyond, I

24:47

wish we got to talk about that with Beyheim, for

24:49

sure I got a boner kick around. That was on

24:51

there. You

24:59

know, that's the motivation, like

25:02

the hood, like

25:04

removing yourself, going into

25:06

a different space, I use that, that

25:08

was, those are my 7 o'clock moments,

25:11

and you know, where I

25:13

sit right now, I sit

25:16

free, you know, I play

25:18

ball in America, I play ball in

25:20

China, and now I

25:22

get to come back home and

25:25

I build my relationship with America

25:27

by rebuilding my

25:30

relationship with New York, because with

25:33

America, you know, New York, New York is

25:35

New York. And

25:37

we shook heads, it worked

25:39

out, I was like, oh, they lose,

25:41

it's the stuff of a barber, he

25:43

comes to the garden, it's the hurricane,

25:45

and the dicks take her home, you

25:47

know, with the back pain, he's gonna

25:49

text me, like, what is that, I'm

25:51

gonna just be chilling, you know, I'm

25:53

not gonna just be chilling, we check

25:55

out, I want to back pay out

25:58

like it's a big deal, I

26:00

said, at this point I'm looking

26:02

at it, I'm like, you gotta

26:04

get hot! That's

26:11

what I'm screaming out for. I'm like, yo,

26:13

you gotta get hot! You gotta

26:15

get hot! Boom, he go, bah, bah. He

26:17

score, I said, alright now, stay hot! So,

26:19

don't stop, bro. The

26:25

niggas want about 20, I was like, oh!

26:27

You got about 20, I got up on

26:29

your own. That's the picture.

26:34

That's the picture. That's

26:36

the picture they want, though. That's right. You

26:38

know, they're having a poor day to lose tomorrow, man.

26:41

It'll be sad. But, it's wild. I

26:43

could deal with it. When

26:46

you grow up in this, you know how it is. So,

26:48

you take it what it

26:51

is, and it's like, let

26:53

me give my all, so everybody can see

26:55

me giving my all. You

26:58

see, I'm in the game. I'm

27:00

in the game. I'm all the way. I'm

27:02

locked in. I am with them. The one

27:05

who wants to see it. You can see

27:07

it. Everybody can see this. You

27:09

don't see it enough on the snake. No,

27:12

man. That's, that's, that's, that's, Spike is

27:14

there. I'm there, for real. I'm

27:17

in the real moment. Spike's gun.

27:20

I'm in the real high seat right now. We down by

27:22

20, I'm like, hold up. You

27:25

don't really spike this. Look,

27:27

check it. This dude goes,

27:30

Kurt, he like, man, every time I

27:32

come, we lose. I'm

27:34

like, oh my God. Why did

27:36

you just tell me that? I'm

27:39

like, in a space, like, oh, this is all

27:41

good. It's calm. It's everything. But

27:43

then, it gets to the point

27:46

where I'm like, wow, we can't lose. I was like,

27:49

we lose. I'm on the back. It's a shit. It's

27:51

a shit. It's a shit. It's

27:53

a shit. I'm like, it's a shit. It's

27:55

a shit that I might have to romance

27:57

with this for a second. I don't want

27:59

to do no dancing to this. I don't

28:01

want to dance to this at all. I'm

28:03

good. You know, man, talking

28:06

about, like, you know what I mean? New York and you

28:08

said it. There's a

28:10

reason why it's a cliche. Like, if you could make it

28:12

here, you could make it anywhere. Because it's tough coming up

28:14

in New York. And you are

28:16

New York to the

28:18

core. Because you hate the sun.

28:20

Yeah. Like, Coney Island,

28:23

Douchehoes, Lincoln. You know what

28:25

I'm saying? Hate the sun in New York. For real. The sun

28:27

in New York. And at the time, when he was coming up,

28:29

there was a lot of guys, though. It was

28:31

Philippe. It was, you know what I'm saying? It was a lot of guys.

28:34

But you was always, like, like,

28:36

a head above. You

28:39

know what I mean? As far as, like, everybody

28:41

in the city was concerned. Like, everybody was like,

28:43

Steph is that dude. Like, he's

28:45

the next one. I think, you

28:47

know, for me, growing up in New York, because

28:49

Philippe, Kareem, Reeve, Ray Fun, you know, Ali

28:51

Moore, all of the dudes that who, you

28:53

know, playing this a lot, I can say

28:55

a lot. I'm a Lloyd Mason. There's a

28:57

lot of guys that I can mention. You

29:01

know, my brothers, you know, 530, you know,

29:03

Bassey. Everybody,

29:05

who who? We

29:08

literally, like, become like a spirit

29:10

for point guards in New York.

29:12

Like, we literally take on each

29:14

other's spirit from old, from the

29:16

ancient time of basketball, all the

29:18

way up to the new time

29:20

in basketball. Like, you can literally

29:23

see it. So for me,

29:25

the guys that passed Boo Harvey's,

29:27

Mark Jackson's, Dave Edwards, I embody

29:29

those guys. Like, I was the

29:31

little dude that was sitting back,

29:33

watching these dudes, like, Dave Edwards,

29:35

right? Yeah. Like, I was

29:37

like the dude that sitting back, waiting

29:39

just to get on the court where

29:43

they used to run at, and running their areas where

29:45

they used to run at, be like, oh yeah, I'm

29:47

about to do the Dave Edwards. I'm about to do

29:49

KA. You know what I'm saying? I

29:51

was that kid. I wanna be just

29:53

like all of these dudes because of my

29:55

brother Juju. So my brother went to

29:57

All American, came with these dudes. You

30:00

know what I'm saying? So I'm already seeing

30:02

this and then my high school coach, he's

30:04

like, you know, he's one of the basketball

30:06

gurus with Tom Kachowski. So

30:08

a lot of people don't know that

30:10

the education background of basketball about me

30:13

and what I know and what I've

30:15

done. But because they don't,

30:17

it was like a little secret weapon for

30:19

me like growing up, you know, cause I

30:21

had all the brothers that played with Dominique

30:23

Wilkins played against Jordan. My brother was the

30:25

17 leading scorer at Texas A&M. Don

30:28

Marbury, you know what I'm saying?

30:30

So he gave you, when does that work? Going

30:32

to town with that work, no three point line.

30:35

You know what I'm saying? If nothing's

30:37

not work, you get anything 22, 23 in college. You

30:40

get it. So

30:43

for me, having this,

30:46

you know, opportunity to have

30:48

all of these spirits, when

30:51

I came up, I was

30:53

just basically the embodiment of the

30:55

point guard that people globally said

30:57

that the New York City guard

31:00

didn't have. I could shoot from half

31:02

court, I could jump, I

31:05

could dunk on seven footers, I could

31:07

play defense, I could pass, you know

31:10

what I'm saying? Like this is in high

31:12

school. I could do all of the things

31:14

that a complete point guard is supposed to

31:16

do, right? My actually playing a

31:18

point guard position, people

31:21

wanted me to score more because

31:24

I will open up so much for

31:26

the younger kids on the court that

31:29

the game would be so spread that it

31:31

was so easy for me to score, but

31:33

when everybody was scoring and we was making the

31:35

game fun and I'm scoring, the

31:37

game used to be dope on the playground. So

31:41

if you can make the game dope on the playground

31:43

from a little kid and make people come out and

31:45

watch you play, you

31:47

know, that's different. Yeah, but that's why I have

31:49

to cut you off. I have to

31:51

cut you off. You're not, you're good. But this is why,

31:55

people that know like the true

31:58

rich history of New York. York

32:00

basketball. The people that know.

32:04

That's family. The Marbury family

32:09

has, they sit on the throne when

32:11

it comes to the

32:13

house that built, you get what I'm

32:15

saying, all of this and but like it

32:18

was very from the outside look

32:20

and then very strategic, right?

32:23

To be like mom and pop and like okay,

32:25

this is what's happening and this is what's happening.

32:28

Damn, you ain't make it okay, we going to the next. Okay,

32:30

you ain't make it, we going to the next. It's

32:33

a machine. Exactly. If

32:36

that was today, right?

32:38

If that machine was today, there'd

32:41

be a billion dollar family. We

32:43

are. We just don't got it

32:46

right now. In actuality, we all are.

32:51

We all are. You get what I'm

32:53

saying? Speaking from a monetary standpoint, the

32:55

way that the industry is today, they

32:58

would be the staple of what

33:01

that is and the

33:04

blueprint on how hard

33:06

you got to work to get there, right?

33:10

You have to earn your right within

33:12

the family. Fuck outside.

33:14

You got to earn your right within

33:17

the family. 100%. You can't come

33:19

to the dinner table, nigga. Like you

33:21

can't eat tonight. How you going

33:23

to eat? Like you're going

33:26

to eat a different. It's a different

33:28

mindset. So as you were saying, it

33:30

took me, it took me to that.

33:32

I don't want to take it to

33:34

a monetary position, but it just

33:36

took me all the way to that because there's

33:39

people that's emulating that

33:42

today. Today. You know, in

33:44

my family, it's a hierarchy system. It's

33:46

my mom, it's my dad, my mom,

33:49

my oldest brother, my next to oldest brother

33:51

now, Don, my oldest brother, Eric, he passed

33:54

away last year. Now it's Don. He's the

33:56

leader of the family. And

33:58

you know, it's a matter of time. because

34:00

right now my sisters

34:03

and my brother, my

34:05

brother, I'm next to the baby. So

34:09

when they put their foot down, I could talk with

34:11

them and go back and forth, but when they say

34:13

something and that's it, you

34:15

know, that's it. It's the hierarchy. It

34:18

is what it is. It's just what it is, it's a system.

34:20

You know, I'm fortunate that my mom is 82, my

34:22

oldest brother was in his 60s before he

34:24

passed, and my brother, Don, just turned 60.

34:26

I got sisters, they don't want me to say

34:29

the age, but you know, they right there.

34:31

So, you know, when, for me at

34:34

47, I

34:36

have the opportunity to be able to

34:38

learn and grow from a space from

34:41

an 82 year old person and my

34:43

mom, and then from

34:45

my granddaughter who's three.

34:49

So I'm stuck in a beautiful space at

34:51

47, being a 70s baby,

34:54

and learning and growing in that space, you

35:00

learn about a lot of different things

35:02

of things that you have to face,

35:04

things, the decisions that you made. You

35:07

know, you gotta, because you always

35:10

have somebody teaching you and then you're

35:12

teaching, and then now you have people,

35:14

the kids now, they're teaching you now. As

35:16

a baby. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

35:18

You're right. Absolutely. So now the babies are

35:20

teaching you, because the

35:23

kids now, they don't live

35:25

the way how we live growing up.

35:28

Their minds are programmed completely different when

35:30

they know how to use the iPad

35:32

and the computer better than the grandparents.

35:35

Then you got the baby swiping and doing it.

35:38

You're like, what's that? You're

35:40

like, what's that? So the grandma, no, grandma, don't

35:42

touch that. Like, let me do it. Okay.

35:45

You don't grow out of dooders.

35:48

I think grandma can't see me. Grandma's like,

35:50

y'all know what I'm doing. The baby's looking

35:52

at me. I put the wrong

35:55

guys in five sizes. But

35:58

then now the grandmother got to give back. the

36:00

iPad to the baby and the baby looking at grandma

36:02

and typing it in without looking and then the baby's

36:04

like, the grandma was looking like, you know what, you're

36:06

too much. I'm not buying you nothing else. You

36:09

know what I'm saying? Like this is going on

36:11

and we have to

36:13

respect that. We have

36:15

to respect that the next generation of kids

36:18

just like, like I

36:20

think in basketball, I think the kids play

36:22

today, I think they're way better than us.

36:24

Their skills. I wasn't doing

36:27

all of that practicing that they was doing with dribbling

36:29

drills and practicing all that, which is why they get

36:31

on the court and they could do the stuff like

36:33

Steph Curry and Kyrie Irving. When

36:35

we played, you was running mountains and hills. Yeah, we

36:37

old school. We was doing all of that shit. We

36:39

used to go different. It was different. Like,

36:42

but if we added, we could do that

36:44

stuff, we added and had a lot, but

36:47

it's their time. You know,

36:49

it's their moment for them to be fly. Like

36:54

we would fly when we were fly. Now is their

36:56

time to be fly and we still could be fly

36:59

and talk about them being fly. Absolutely. What I

37:01

was going to say, like when I listened to

37:03

some of the dudes, I'm like, uh,

37:05

that was fly when he did. And

37:08

if I try to do that right now, I don't even

37:10

know where to start. You know what I'm saying? Like,

37:13

and I play basketball. I can

37:15

still play, but we did things

37:17

completely different. So the evolution of,

37:20

you know, what you spoke about, what you talk about.

37:22

And I want to touch on about the billionaire

37:25

because, you know, I've did

37:27

Starberry. I did more numbers than Mike

37:29

Rijord in selling shoes. I'm

37:31

going to say that again. I did

37:34

more. I did more numbers than Mike

37:36

Rijord in selling shoes. And you

37:38

know, during this time I was seeing,

37:40

when you talk about enlightenment, I was

37:42

having out of body experiences because I

37:44

was seeing black parents

37:47

who looked like me who had

37:49

ideal situations where they

37:51

couldn't afford to buy shoes leave

37:55

spending $200 walking out with

37:57

like 10 bags. Like,

38:01

this is a different zone, this is a

38:03

different space when you create this

38:06

opportunity for a human being who's

38:09

struggling on earth to feed their

38:11

loved ones, their children, the people who

38:14

they love, people that come from outside

38:16

of them. They want to

38:18

provide the best life that they could possibly provide

38:20

for them. So

38:22

here I come where I try to

38:24

create this opportunity for

38:27

people to be able to

38:29

have access, not shoes and

38:31

clothes. I created access. So

38:33

now I create access for human beings,

38:35

not just for people that look like

38:38

me, for all people, but there's

38:40

nothing wrong for me to want people that look

38:42

like me to be able to be happy. Just

38:44

as it's the same thing for white people,

38:47

for other white people or Chinese people. Doesn't

38:49

matter, we all people. You

38:51

feel what I'm saying? I create access

38:53

with Starburys and then I ask

38:57

questions about Michael Jordan. Like,

38:59

no, I'm not in agreement with

39:01

selling shoes for this amount and

39:03

kids get killed for them. I'm

39:07

not okay with it. Once it happens one

39:09

time, that's it. It has to revamp. That's

39:11

my stance. That's my position. Yes,

39:13

that's my stance, that's my position. Whether

39:16

you like my stance and how I deliver

39:18

it and say it, that's one thing. What

39:21

I'm saying is I don't want

39:23

no child, white or black, for

39:27

a parent to have to bury their

39:29

child over a pair of sneakers. No,

39:32

that's not how I see the

39:34

earth becoming more of a positive

39:37

space where we could all live and grow

39:39

old for 120, 130 years. This

39:42

ain't it. So that's

39:44

how I feel. It's

39:48

okay for people to disagree or

39:50

you're going against. I'm not. I

39:53

really wasn't. I could have delivered it better.

39:56

I could have. I could have probably spoke about it differently,

39:58

but during those times, I'm not going to do times,

40:01

you know, these are the things that were happening.

40:03

You know, so for me, you know, I look

40:07

at a company where if I'm, I

40:09

got more numbers where I got proof that

40:11

I sold more shoes than Michael Jordan. And

40:14

you know, when Michael Jordan does, as

40:18

far as selling shoes, I

40:20

can understand why I took a hit

40:22

and I'm okay with that. That was

40:24

my lesson to learn. And

40:26

I don't got to speak that on camera now

40:28

and go into that. But it is what it

40:30

is. And I've learned my lesson from that. But

40:32

you, so the

40:35

numbers was talking. So

40:38

again, you seeing the numbers of

40:40

what you're doing and what these other brands

40:42

is doing, so you feeling the

40:44

way you on your thing, you're like,

40:47

yeah, like, fuck that I'm, I'm

40:49

up there with Michael Jordan. Like I'm, I

40:51

wasn't thinking I was up there with Michael

40:53

Jordan. No, I'm selling. We're talking about just

40:55

sales volume. I'm just like, yo,

40:57

I just did the same. I did my

40:59

numbers in Mike. Right. That's basically what I

41:01

was like. So because he was so he

41:03

was at that time, Mike is big Mike.

41:12

But not understanding, not having a comprehension

41:14

of the numbers. I get

41:16

it. It was actually saying that I get

41:18

it. I mean, look, you

41:21

know, they was on stuff. It was on my.

41:25

We've seen it. That

41:30

was loud. We're

41:32

talking about, smoke the room outside.

41:35

We ain't going to kill you. We

41:37

about to smoke this out. We're

41:40

going to smoke this all over the angle. Are

41:46

you going to stay in here? It's a four

41:48

time battle. It's understandable.

41:51

Get down and let you know. I'm

41:53

going to keep it one honey. You

41:55

know, that happened. And you know, after

41:57

that. I said. I'm

42:00

gonna go do it where they make it. So,

42:03

you know, it was a level tour. It was

42:05

a different space that I tapped into as far

42:07

as, you know, what I had

42:09

to learn and what I had to grow through, you

42:11

know, and that whole

42:14

process, it really helped me.

42:17

It forced me to learn. I had to

42:19

go learn about sourcing products,

42:22

like going into the factory, you

42:25

know, learning what a

42:28

SKU is, a SKU, learning

42:30

all the different terminology, learning

42:32

about shipment logistics.

42:36

And it bettered me in a

42:38

place where when I had conversations and

42:41

speaking about talking to different

42:43

people about doing things, it was like,

42:45

oh, you really know. I'm like, well,

42:47

I didn't know when I started Starberry,

42:49

but because I tried

42:51

to go up against the market,

42:53

I was joking about. And

42:56

when I did that, I

42:58

was forced to, you know, I had to make a different

43:00

move. But, you

43:03

know, I laugh and I joke

43:05

about it now, but during that time, it

43:07

was very challenging. You know, I just watched

43:10

Starberry just go like that. And I listened

43:12

to a guy talk, Charlamagne, he was talking

43:14

about how my shoes was garbage, and I

43:16

was talking about Jordan's shoes and

43:18

kids getting killed for them, and I listened to them,

43:20

and I was like, you know what? When

43:22

I look at the shoes now for $15, I

43:26

wish I could have made them dope for

43:28

$15, and they been crazy

43:30

dope without spending the money that they

43:33

got to be dope for $15. I

43:35

wish I could do that, right? But

43:37

now you can do that. You know what I'm

43:39

saying? So you can come back and you can do

43:42

it. So when I hear people speak and talk about

43:44

certain things, I'm like, wow. And

43:47

those people, when they were talking what they were talking

43:49

during the time period, I

43:51

can learn something from it. But

43:53

they would totally understand that today.

43:56

It's okay. It's okay today. It's okay

43:59

to be entrepreneur. It's okay. It's

44:01

okay. It's okay. You know,

44:03

I'm one of the people that helped

44:05

me get okay. You know, I would

44:07

love to go back in to go into

44:09

Walmart and redo the whole

44:12

Knicks. Like how I

44:14

had the whole movement going to like get

44:16

those opportunities. But you know, and I do.

44:18

I'm not going to say I don't. I

44:20

want to go into the big box stores.

44:22

I want to do business with all of

44:24

the different brands out there for all of

44:26

the different platforms with, you know, bringing something

44:28

back, which I'm working on. I want to

44:30

do all of these things that I did

44:32

in America. You know, I went to China.

44:35

I learned a lot and I got

44:37

the opportunity to be able to connect

44:39

and bridge. I got Hong Kong ID.

44:41

So I'm intersected in three areas

44:43

on the earth where, you know, we can

44:46

really do something powerful and impactful in

44:48

our communities to give back and to

44:50

help and create other entrepreneurs. You know,

44:52

I went all the way down to

44:54

zero when I left to play in

44:57

China. When you go from 20 million

44:59

dollars to zero, zero

45:01

dollars is a big difference. Yeah, bad

45:03

money. It's not the same.

45:05

What was that mindset? I don't want to

45:07

keep it too dark, but like that mindset

45:09

is... You know, during

45:11

that time I was more so like, you know,

45:14

I would rather be free in my

45:16

spirit than to be

45:18

in a space where I

45:21

committed myself towards doing something

45:24

that I wasn't going to be

45:26

happy about within myself, you

45:28

know. And I just wanted to play basketball

45:30

at that time. When I went to China,

45:32

I literally just wanted to hoop. I literally,

45:34

I was... I worked out crazy all summer.

45:37

I was coming off of ankle surgery. You

45:39

know, I was training for real. I

45:42

was in damn near

45:44

18, 20 games season

45:46

and the season type shape at

45:49

the training camp. Yeah. You

45:51

know that space, right? You know 20 games, you know.

45:55

You know what's up. So I

45:57

was already in that space already playing on

45:59

the... 13 this

46:01

like running up and down the court in

46:03

practice after drills and all of

46:05

that This is old school two of these back

46:08

in the days. I'm told there's different It's different

46:10

and then and then playing in the afternoon. So

46:12

I wanted I was getting myself back You know

46:14

what I'm saying? And then I got like I

46:17

said, I got benched and during that moment of

46:19

that time It

46:21

was part of where God was

46:23

like now you got to sit

46:25

down and you have to listen

46:29

And we're gonna go another direction somebody asked me like

46:31

yo Do you think you were went to China

46:33

and and all of that what I've happened? I

46:35

was like how? I

46:38

think how can I even I was like I

46:40

couldn't even say yo I'm gonna go have

46:42

this dream that they gonna build up. They're gonna throw

46:44

a statue of me. It was gonna be like I

47:16

Said yo you really use you use you

47:18

I was like you gonna use Vaseline forever

47:20

I said you I said great.

47:22

I said I'm literally I said you guys are gonna help

47:25

me get a Vaseline deal You're gonna see me like this

47:27

with a From

47:43

that clean the Apple for My

47:49

son got straight Vaseline Oh

47:58

use Apple for the I'm like, nah,

48:00

my kid's used Vaseline. We on that Vaseline. I'm sorry,

48:02

we've been on that since- This is Vaseline household. Since

48:04

30. Since 30. Since 30.

48:07

Since 30. So my man

48:09

was like, yo, so why did you use Vaseline?

48:11

I just really wanna know. So I was like,

48:13

all right, you wanna know? Okay,

48:15

so I'm doing a live stream. My voice

48:18

is crazy. I did

48:20

the live stream for like 24

48:22

hours. I was the first person to do it. I

48:24

was like, yo, I'm gonna do a live

48:26

stream for 24 hours. It was like- That's because

48:28

you're- Everybody thought he was bugging me. And then

48:30

I was about to say, because of Joel, everybody

48:32

was like, yo, Steph is bugging. What is he

48:34

doing? Because of everything else that was happening. Right.

48:37

And you playing music, but then now- He was like the nigga,

48:39

like, I'm doing me. I'm doing me. I'm

48:42

doing you. You do what you. I'm

48:44

doing me. Right? So I'm

48:46

like, so look, I'm

48:48

doing that, right? But I step out of the

48:51

camera. That's so scary. And I'm looking at the

48:53

computer and the numbers

48:55

is going up. I'm like, there's 2

48:57

million people watching me and

49:00

I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Yo, dawg, can I pay

49:02

you some? I step back in

49:04

the fucking- Yeah. I'm gonna be

49:06

like, what's going on? What's going on? You don't

49:08

have the comfort. You don't want anything. You don't

49:10

want anything. You don't want anything. You're like, yo,

49:12

this nigga is wild and he's going crazy. He's

49:14

gonna drink, but you know what's fucking me up

49:16

about this whole shit, bro? That's the industry now,

49:18

Steph. I know. You

49:21

know what I'm saying? Like the Kai Sinatra world. Let

49:23

me tell you something. When I seen you- He was

49:25

Kai Sinatra before. When I seen it. And I'm like,

49:27

what's the problem? I still

49:29

got all that in me. It's come to come out

49:32

on my show. When I do my own stuff, like,

49:34

I said, look, some dude was

49:36

like, yo, you know, you

49:38

was one of the first people to do the

49:40

last set. No,

49:44

I'm not one of the first people. I said, I

49:46

was the dude that they said was crazy for doing

49:48

it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm not

49:50

one of the first people. I'm one of the first

49:52

people that they said, oh, he's out of his mind.

49:55

When I was out, I bug out all of the

49:57

different- like

50:00

grocery products, stuff, I put it on my table.

50:02

I was like, you want me to advertise this

50:05

for you? Look, this is what they gonna be

50:07

doing back in the days, I'm telling you. He

50:09

said, Steph is burning, he on drugs, he on

50:11

all types. You caught all of that. Yo, they

50:13

sent my mom and I, sent my brothers, they

50:15

flew, all of them jumped on a plane. And

50:19

my brother, Don, 60 birthday

50:21

last night, my brother, Don was like, we here.

50:26

He ran in my house. We

50:28

here. He talking about

50:30

my brother on coke, all these drugs.

50:32

We here, let me see his face.

50:35

Where his face at? We here. I

50:38

know what time it is. I'm in the shower,

50:40

right? I'm in the shower, this nigga busting the

50:42

roof. I

50:44

looked at him, he looked at me, he said, you

50:47

know what I'm wrong with this nigga, man. That got

50:49

me all the way out here in California.

50:51

Oh, the brothers, they tried to hit us.

50:53

And then after that, he said, yeah, we

50:55

doing arts. I hear you,

50:57

brother. You're doing arts. All

51:00

right, oh now. Now I'm looking at the

51:02

house, like this bar down. Oh,

51:05

we doing arts now. Yeah, I think

51:08

he's sending me messages. Yeah, he coke, don't you know.

51:11

Like coke, I said, let me tell you something. I

51:14

never did coke because of limb bias.

51:16

I never had the desire to try

51:18

it. I never thought about it.

51:20

After he died, I always thought, oh, if you

51:22

do that, you're gonna die right away. That's

51:25

how I always thought about coke. I

51:28

was like, you do that growing up.

51:30

So, when people were saying that, I

51:32

was like, coke. I was like, damn,

51:34

why not weed or speed or surf

51:36

or something? Why you guys saying coke?

51:41

That's the first day, that's the first day. I'm

51:43

like, why not be mad? I'm like, yeah,

51:45

I'm staying up and I'm doing it. I

51:47

was like, but this is pure basketball energy.

51:51

I'm like, I can do this all day. I

51:53

know. It's pure

51:55

basketball energy. They was like, yo. Yo, what is

51:57

going on? Trust me, I get it. I know.

52:00

Responsive though you was just bored like

52:02

no, I basically one of my friends. He

52:04

worked at CVS He was a producer and

52:06

he said I want to put you up

52:08

on something This is a new wave of

52:10

what's getting ready to come out. We're gonna

52:12

be doing live streaming. It was

52:14

like and you're perfect for it Like

52:20

you're perfect for he was like stuff I'm

52:22

the guy that sits in the editing bay

52:24

and I'm the guy that cut and

52:27

I make your face look like that when we're losing

52:29

I'm the one that make you look like Like

52:32

you don't want to be there. It's just a cut you

52:34

could just be coming out and be tired He's like, I'm

52:36

gonna do that. They're telling you he said, but I love

52:38

you though I've been loving you since Lincoln and then I

52:40

gave him a $30,000

52:42

contract to cut some stuff for me. That's

52:44

how me and him became friends Mmm, so,

52:47

you know when I got put

52:49

on to it about the whole movement

52:52

of it. I was like This

52:55

is the next wave. This is it and I

52:58

want to be a part of it in a way

53:00

that I can have impact and my Impact

53:02

is what I see now when I see all

53:05

of the kids doing live streaming alive I'm tickly

53:07

pink behind it because at the end of the

53:09

day my mom said I'm tickly

53:11

pink like tickling me so hard I turn pink

53:13

in my face when I see that

53:17

When I look at that, I know

53:19

I wasn't bugging during that time But when I see

53:21

it now and then I see people doing live streaming

53:23

where you could sell products You

53:26

know I'm saying you could sell products in real

53:28

time Like we doing this show right now and

53:30

we selling this mug James Harden you heard you

53:32

did ten thousand bottles of wine We doing we're

53:35

doing we're doing we heard that. Yeah, so if

53:37

you can sell a hundred thousand of these 100

53:39

at one dollar we gonna talk You

53:49

can say oh in 30 seconds we're gonna be

53:51

selling blah blah blah You

53:54

still talking to what you want, but oh yo,

53:56

Mellow we just did two million of those you're

53:58

not gonna do not refruit a night You're

54:00

like, okay,

54:02

but this is what's going on.

54:05

I foresaw that this happening with

54:08

this happening now because

54:10

they allowed us to see it. All

54:13

of the movies we watched from

54:16

RoboCop, you

54:18

see RoboCop now, from-

54:21

It's a real RoboCop song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

54:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the robot dogs. They

54:25

got RoboCop. We got real RoboCops. T-1000's running

54:27

around in the street. Yeah, it's real ones.

54:30

Okay, the dog, when we see

54:32

the movies, they

54:34

let us see it. Like, remember when they

54:36

were doing The Matrix? What's different? Flying cars,

54:38

all of that. It's coming. Why not? It's

54:42

fun. We should be communicating with

54:44

the outside people from not here

54:46

on Earth. Why not? That's fun.

54:48

Avatar. Ooh, no, yo.

54:51

Avatar. Why not? I mean, why

54:53

not? The technology, the frequency channels are allowing

54:55

us to be in alignment for us to

54:57

be able to communicate and to tap in.

54:59

So, you know, we're living

55:02

in a time where technology is

55:04

proven and is showing us that

55:07

our lives will never be the

55:09

same. We gotta

55:11

embrace it. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, it's fun. Every

55:15

year something new happens, man. And it's just like

55:17

you gotta adapt, adjust, evolve.

55:19

You know what I'm saying? You have no choice.

55:21

Why not get on a plane? Get with the

55:24

times, bro. You have no choice. Well,

55:26

we gotta fly now? We fly planes, let's

55:28

get on that moment. You have no... My point is, if you're

55:31

going to be in this space because we're

55:33

all gonna leave this space, right? And then

55:35

more kids are gonna enjoy.

55:37

So, if you're gonna be in this space,

55:39

why not adapt and adjust

55:41

and enjoy it? It's what it

55:43

is. Until you leave this space

55:45

and go into the next space. True.

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right now. All right, four playoff losses

56:26

for the Boston Celtics during

56:28

the whole playoff one. That's just a series, the whole

56:30

run. Will they have more

56:32

or less than four losses? More.

56:36

There's gonna be some seven game series

56:38

in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As you

56:40

start getting further and further

56:42

and further, games get a little

56:44

bit different. So I

56:46

would say more. More or

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57:17

right, so boom. Very curiosity,

57:19

right? Take it to another space. Take

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57:24

era. Easy.

57:27

Syracuse legend. Heard

57:30

stories. You know what I'm saying? We got the

57:32

names off in the building to confirm or deny.

57:36

You serious legend? I'm calling my

57:38

hands up. I'm going off blockers all

57:40

right now. Syracuse legend? All right, yeah.

57:42

Syracuse legend, man. Talk about that. Listen,

57:44

listen. Let me tell you something. Let

57:46

me tell you something. And I

57:48

was so disappointed. I'm not gonna lie. I got

57:50

to tell this story. I

57:53

was going to Syracuse before

57:57

Syracuse knew I was going to Syracuse. All

57:59

right. So, you

58:02

grow up in Coney Island, you play all over

58:04

the world as a little kid, you go different

58:06

places, people know you from you being a kid

58:08

that be like, I want to come and play

58:11

at your court because I want to play against

58:13

the best players. You go to camps, you do

58:15

all of this stuff. Syracuse

58:17

is the place that you basically say

58:19

the carrier dome, you got 40,000, you

58:21

already know that type

58:24

of energy, that electricity, you know

58:26

what's up. That's how when he get busy, he got

58:28

busy the way how he got busy. Talk to him.

58:30

You feel me? So, when he

58:32

step on the stage inside the garden, that

58:34

electricity that go through his body where he

58:36

feel like, nigga, I can do anything. You

58:38

got to have 40,000 in you to be

58:40

able to go to the garden to really

58:42

do that like that. You

58:48

know what I'm saying? When you take

58:50

that shot where you pull up from

58:53

anywhere, that's different. That's not for everybody.

58:56

You feel me? So,

58:58

playing in the carrier dome, that's what

59:00

I was foreseeing as a young dude

59:02

wanting to feel that energy. You wanted

59:05

that. You see Pearl shaking and baking

59:07

going, doing what he's doing. You see

59:09

those highlights? It's like

59:11

that's automatic. You got to be inside

59:13

that. You got to be in

59:16

that building doing that. My

59:20

hype, I go to the camps. Everything.

59:24

I go to all the camps. Everything.

59:28

Know all the people, Bernie Fond.

59:30

Everybody. I know everybody. Wayne

59:32

Morgan. Everybody. Benedict Holmes. All

59:35

of that. Everything. These

59:37

are the high schoolers. I could have

59:39

been, they probably could have been on

59:41

violation because of me. They

59:44

probably could have been on violation

59:46

because of me, right? From

59:49

a little kid that, you know, just being

59:51

there. But, just

59:55

got Jim Behar. He comes to my

59:57

house on my, on

59:59

my home school. visit. My

1:00:02

brothers, they hype, you know, yes, the cutes

1:00:04

coming in, you know, we got the cutes

1:00:06

on the home visit. My

1:00:09

mom, my dad, my two older brothers, this

1:00:12

dude, Jim Beham,

1:00:15

he comes in.

1:00:18

Stephon. You

1:00:21

know, he got this, his nose, he got that little,

1:00:23

it's like a, you

1:00:26

know, it's coach, you know, it's coach,

1:00:28

it's coach. And I love

1:00:30

Beham, but after he didn't bring me

1:00:33

there and what he did and how he did this,

1:00:35

I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna forgive

1:00:37

you for this, but it's all good. Five

1:00:40

minutes into the conversation, he talking about services and

1:00:42

then he goes, well, you know, I just want

1:00:44

to let you know we're not gonna start you.

1:00:49

Already? Out the gate.

1:00:51

Five minutes in. Excuse

1:00:57

me? You're gonna call me on the

1:00:59

phone and call me out. You wrote

1:01:02

that in the letter. No,

1:01:06

this is way serious than a letter. He

1:01:08

owed me this. This, this situation, he owed

1:01:10

me this. I wanted

1:01:13

to go to Syracuse more than he wanted me to go

1:01:15

to Syracuse. That's a fact. You

1:01:18

feel me? So when he said that, you didn't say like, why?

1:01:20

He told me that he broke my heart. You

1:01:22

didn't have, but he said like, yo, step,

1:01:24

listen. He said, you're not gonna start. My

1:01:26

two brothers went just like this. They

1:01:37

left. I was like. What you mean

1:01:39

I'm not gonna start? My

1:01:43

best, my, my hand in the guard, yo, they

1:01:46

did that. And I was sitting there.

1:01:48

I was sitting in one seat. My mom was sitting in

1:01:50

another seat. I'm just looking at it. I was like, why

1:01:52

you do that? But you also

1:01:54

got to, let me put it in another perspective for

1:01:56

everybody. You also got to think how

1:01:58

important that was back like that. Like

1:02:00

it was only a couple schools that

1:02:03

you wanted to have a home visit.

1:02:06

Like when you got Cuse coming into it as

1:02:08

a home visit, you got Carolinas

1:02:10

coming in a home visit, St. John's at

1:02:12

the time coming in home. When

1:02:15

them coaches, them

1:02:17

big name coaches came to your crib, you

1:02:20

knew it was real. You

1:02:22

knew it was real. So I just wanted to

1:02:24

paint that picture because I told a similar story

1:02:27

when Beyhame came to BMO. Right?

1:02:29

So go ahead, finish this, finish this story.

1:02:31

So I'm standing there, I'm sitting down and

1:02:33

I'm just looking at him like, why you

1:02:35

do that? Like why you say that? First

1:02:38

thing. Five minutes into the

1:02:40

conversation, he starts talking about the school. Syracuse

1:02:43

there's the academics, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:02:45

And then all of a sudden he just

1:02:47

come out with this humdinger and go, it

1:02:51

just says, oh,

1:02:54

and you're not going to start. Who

1:02:56

was there? Him, Bernie. No,

1:02:58

who was going to start? I

1:03:03

think Michael Lloyd and Lazarra. Oh shout out to

1:03:05

him Lloyd. Yeah, yeah, Michael Lloyd. I don't know

1:03:07

if those guys just came or he was leaving

1:03:09

or something. I don't know. And I

1:03:12

understood that part. I was okay with not

1:03:14

starting like him saying that because I'm like,

1:03:16

I just got to go do what I

1:03:18

got to do. But my brothers

1:03:20

was like, no, we're not going that route. They

1:03:23

got up, they left. I just sat there. I was

1:03:25

like, that's the end of that. I was

1:03:27

like, I'm not going there. That was 95. Yes.

1:03:32

The next day, Georgia

1:03:34

Tech came visiting. If

1:03:36

I didn't know any better, I would have thought, I

1:03:39

mean, I know coach him, I know Beyhame and Kremens

1:03:41

know each other and I know they're going

1:03:43

to be. But I would have thought that these

1:03:45

dudes playing this the next day Kremens comes to

1:03:47

my house. The first thing he says, I'm going to

1:03:49

give you the ball and let you do whatever you

1:03:51

want to do. My mother said, that's what I'm talking

1:03:53

about. But

1:03:56

knowing Beyhame, he probably

1:03:58

put that play in. He probably put that in

1:04:01

place. To this day, I

1:04:03

don't know. He got me feeling this way.

1:04:05

So when you say that, he probably put

1:04:07

that in place. Play me a crime. I'm

1:04:10

not going to do it. So you can do it. You take

1:04:12

him, though. I got one of them ones. Yeah.

1:04:18

I was like, I wonder if I

1:04:20

never got a chance to ask him because

1:04:22

I was tight. And I was banking on

1:04:24

Michael Lloyd at that time. You

1:04:26

know what I'm saying? Michael Lloyd, AI, Georgetown, going

1:04:28

at a 95. You at

1:04:31

Tech. I was so shocked. I was so

1:04:33

shocked that for

1:04:39

the number one recruit at that time,

1:04:42

to get turned down. It wasn't so much

1:04:44

of the, it wasn't a turn down. It

1:04:46

wasn't what I wanted to hear. You

1:04:49

know what I'm saying? It wasn't what my family

1:04:51

wanted to hear. At that time, we weren't in

1:04:53

that space. College wasn't that

1:04:55

important. We

1:04:58

were out. We were

1:05:00

in the stepping snow. We was out. That's why

1:05:02

he told you that. It's understandable. He knew why

1:05:04

he was coming in there. I let it be

1:05:06

known. I said before, I'm the only one that

1:05:08

told everybody, if I'm a top five pick, I'm

1:05:10

leaving. Am I staying in school? He

1:05:13

was like, yo, how are you just going to

1:05:15

tell the whole country that you're a top five

1:05:17

pick? I said, bro, do the

1:05:19

math. Look at the guards. Harroding, this

1:05:21

person, that person. I was like, my

1:05:23

chances against playing against all of these

1:05:25

dudes are very good. I

1:05:28

was like, I can play against them. And I can

1:05:30

compete against them and play against them at a high

1:05:32

level. Whoever

1:05:35

played well and whoever does what they're supposed

1:05:37

to do, that's

1:05:39

the guard that's going to have a chance to be able to

1:05:42

go in the front. Did you ever think

1:05:44

about that? Did you ever think about that? Yeah. You know,

1:05:46

from your college altogether, I'm going straight to the league. No,

1:05:48

no, no, no. I wasn't going to go to college. No,

1:05:50

I didn't want to go to college. I didn't want to

1:05:52

go to the NBA out of high school. Never

1:05:54

even considered it? First of all, as

1:05:57

a DeHaem,

1:05:59

LeBron. KG,

1:06:01

Jermaine O'Neal, all

1:06:04

of those guys, you got to be 6'6 higher.

1:06:07

For real, you got to

1:06:09

be... Coming out

1:06:11

of high school. Coming out of

1:06:13

high school, it's hard. Guards that

1:06:15

are small, coming... First of all, the impact

1:06:19

that you take from a little guard against

1:06:21

NBA players, when you play against players, if

1:06:23

your body is in condition to absorb that,

1:06:25

I don't care how much weight you did

1:06:28

as a high school player. It

1:06:30

doesn't work. But college, from

1:06:33

your freshman year to your senior year

1:06:36

in high... In college, when

1:06:38

you go through these rigorous programs,

1:06:40

your body adjusts during a period

1:06:43

of time when you go

1:06:45

from freshman year to senior year. So

1:06:47

those seniors that are playing against those

1:06:49

freshmen, they're getting that same type of

1:06:51

impact that a NBA player

1:06:53

will give to a guy that's from

1:06:55

high school going into the NBA as

1:06:57

a guard. So I was able to

1:06:59

weigh all of that out. My

1:07:01

brothers were like, you ain't ready for that. When

1:07:06

you go in, you want to be able to go in

1:07:08

where you can dominate and you can play freely. Because

1:07:11

when you're on the NBA court, if

1:07:13

your body is equipped to play against

1:07:15

anybody on the court, it's just basically your

1:07:17

preparation and how you prepare and how you

1:07:19

score the basketball, how you play the game.

1:07:22

So it's completely different as far as how

1:07:24

you break it down from the science of

1:07:26

basketball. But you had

1:07:28

that... You had that information being

1:07:31

passed on to you today.

1:07:33

Through the hierarchy. It's

1:07:35

different. Yeah. They gone. So

1:07:37

tell me about it,

1:07:39

man. What is this today? You know

1:07:41

what I mean? Because y'all from that

1:07:43

era of like, yo, the OG taught

1:07:45

me this and how to move. I

1:07:47

want kids... What I want to bring

1:07:49

back to New York and to... I

1:07:51

want kids to play more outside. That

1:07:53

was the thing. Because I... They don't play outside. I'm

1:07:55

40 years old, B. That's what we did. We went

1:07:57

outside and we played outside. They don't play outside. Yeah,

1:08:00

it's getting back to that. They

1:08:03

got to play, I want to, like the

1:08:05

tournaments that you have, they need to play

1:08:08

outside. You know,

1:08:10

yeah, they can play on the hardwood, you

1:08:12

know, because, you know, now you savor, right?

1:08:17

You savor because, you know, your knees and

1:08:19

playing on concrete, but you need that thickness

1:08:21

internally, you know, as

1:08:24

part of your core base. You

1:08:26

need that inside of your bone density,

1:08:28

that structure. For your impact landing, when

1:08:31

you land, when you jump. You

1:08:33

see guards, when they jump and they land. That

1:08:35

should hurt. When they jump and

1:08:37

then they land and then they fall. If

1:08:40

guys jump and they land and they fall, they

1:08:42

always out of their play. So

1:08:44

they always playing four and five. You

1:08:47

know what I'm saying? So, guy go to the basket

1:08:49

and then boom, he always fall. Yeah, you may score,

1:08:51

but you want to floor, playing four and five. But

1:08:54

what about when you don't score when you go

1:08:56

to the basket? So that's that playing in the

1:08:58

park. That's one of the things

1:09:00

that I got from landing on

1:09:02

a concrete, playing in the park. You

1:09:05

know what I'm saying? Where you see guys

1:09:07

in the NBA, you know some of them

1:09:10

probably never really played in the park the

1:09:12

whole time. That makes it different. It's different.

1:09:15

You ain't playing on that pavement. No, it's different.

1:09:17

You ain't come on that pavement. But there's nothing

1:09:19

wrong with the kids playing on hardwood as well.

1:09:21

Because like I said, it's the savor part, but

1:09:23

they still need balance. But they got both. That's

1:09:25

a little of our ball set recently. I

1:09:28

ain't ready. He just got him on the hill. Imagine, that's

1:09:30

the truth. He's getting on the hill. That was one of the realest

1:09:33

things that he said. I listened to him say a lot of stuff,

1:09:35

but when he said that, he was like, I know why. Like

1:09:43

I know the structure of what we started out with,

1:09:46

but you know. You got that power. It's

1:09:48

different. You know, you have to go

1:09:50

back. Look, it's

1:09:52

all in the work. It's

1:09:55

all in the work. You do the work. It

1:09:57

makes it way easier to get

1:09:59

on the court. and played like we

1:10:03

talk about him as a basketball player

1:10:05

is a prolific scorer right and you

1:10:08

know there's when you can play

1:10:11

basketball in the NBA and you

1:10:13

carve out your own lane as

1:10:16

far as how you play basketball that's

1:10:19

what he's done right so

1:10:21

he has his own template

1:10:24

as a basketball player he was rewarded as one

1:10:26

of the 75 best for players who have done

1:10:29

that that is the

1:10:31

uniqueness of being

1:10:33

able to do

1:10:36

something repeatedly over and over you know

1:10:40

at the highest level from

1:10:42

study from concept

1:10:44

from you know

1:10:47

knowing how people defended you when somebody

1:10:49

stole the ball from you like that'll

1:10:51

never happen again you know

1:10:53

I'm saying like all of those different things

1:10:55

building that up that's what

1:10:58

he has that's the that

1:11:01

right there on earth for a sport

1:11:03

where not many people have played is like 47 5

1:11:05

9 8 people who played in the NBA it's not

1:11:07

a lie it's not even at 5,000 no not

1:11:10

at all

1:11:15

so it's a small amount of

1:11:17

people that ever existed you

1:11:19

know who who was able to do

1:11:22

that and we'll continue on right but

1:11:25

for for for you know

1:11:28

me to be able to emulate

1:11:31

that same embodiment and

1:11:33

doing that that's

1:11:36

what makes it special about

1:11:38

playing basketball because

1:11:40

you can carve out your own identity

1:11:42

and be who you want to be what

1:11:45

would you carving out like

1:11:48

you're shifting it back to early

1:11:51

on in like Minnesota days and playing

1:11:53

with Garnett and like going back to

1:11:55

those early days of your mindset which

1:11:58

was a lot different A

1:12:01

lot of guards at that

1:12:03

time, let alone players,

1:12:06

basketball players. Nobody had your

1:12:08

mindset that you had. You was completely

1:12:10

different focus. So the

1:12:12

Golden Minnesota was somebody that you

1:12:15

was with through high school, close

1:12:17

friends with. That mindset of

1:12:19

both of y'all going to Minnesota.

1:12:22

We talked about it. We talked

1:12:24

about playing with each other. We

1:12:26

talked about us winning championships. And

1:12:30

when I went to

1:12:32

Minnesota, I was

1:12:34

so happy to go there to be playing with him

1:12:36

and to be, you know,

1:12:38

whooping with somebody who I spoke

1:12:40

with. And I said, yo,

1:12:42

I want to play with you and build.

1:12:46

And then we go to Minnesota. It's great

1:12:48

playing. But now I'm 19

1:12:50

years old and I'm living where

1:12:53

there's 6% black people and

1:12:56

it snows. It's 10,000 lakes. It's

1:12:58

cold. It's like 40 below every day

1:13:01

in the wintertime. You know, it's black

1:13:03

ice. There's so many different

1:13:05

challenges in the life of how you live.

1:13:08

And you know, this is a place

1:13:10

where I wasn't familiar with. I

1:13:13

wasn't used to it. I

1:13:15

grew up in a melting pot

1:13:17

in New York, you know,

1:13:19

where it's black, white, Chinese, Puerto Rican, all

1:13:21

different type of people that I grew up

1:13:23

with. And then I leave, I go to

1:13:25

school in Atlanta where it's predominantly

1:13:27

black people, you know, when I go

1:13:29

to Georgia Tech. And then now I

1:13:31

leave school and now I go to

1:13:34

Minnesota where, you know, it's predominantly

1:13:36

white people. And

1:13:38

you know, during this time, you know,

1:13:41

when I get there was the summertime because after

1:13:43

the drive and it was beautiful, it was nice,

1:13:45

you know, the weather. But then as things started

1:13:47

to change, I was

1:13:50

like, man, it's really cold.

1:14:00

I was like, this

1:14:02

is serious. I was like, this is not,

1:14:05

and I lived in Coney Island near the

1:14:07

water. That's a different type of cold. I

1:14:09

was like, this is different. That shit ain't

1:14:11

different, bro. So, you know, and it's not

1:14:14

changing. This is not changing. This is consistent.

1:14:18

This is everyday consistency. It's

1:14:20

cold, it's just cold. It's

1:14:22

what it is. You know? It's cold

1:14:24

as shit, bro. So, you know, and

1:14:27

now I'm there for my first year,

1:14:30

and I'm, you know, it's cool. I'm like, I

1:14:32

weather it, you know, I play, you know, we

1:14:34

make it to the playoffs. Just the first time

1:14:36

in franchise history, they never made it to the

1:14:39

playoffs before. My first year, we

1:14:41

make it. Okay, we rolling, man, KG, we

1:14:43

balling. Second year

1:14:45

come, I have so many

1:14:47

incidents. I almost die like five or

1:14:50

six times. Like I'm driving over a

1:14:52

bridge, I hit black

1:14:54

ice, I spit out, and

1:14:58

no cars coming. I'm just, I'm in

1:15:00

a car looking both ways, just praying

1:15:02

like, thank you God, no cars was

1:15:04

coming. You know what I'm saying?

1:15:07

Like, and it not only happened one

1:15:09

time, it happens another time. And

1:15:12

I'm like, I don't know if I wanna do this. That

1:15:16

wasn't affecting on court. No, this had

1:15:18

nothing to do with court. Nothing.

1:15:21

You look at how we played from when

1:15:23

I left, you won't see nothing. It's nothing.

1:15:26

You know, so. This is the environment.

1:15:29

Yes, it was just, I couldn't. I'm the

1:15:31

city, not the city. I told him, I

1:15:34

said, this has nothing to do with the

1:15:36

team or the people. The fans are dope.

1:15:39

You look at the games in Minnesota

1:15:41

when Edwards, they in the game, they

1:15:43

are passionate. It's love. It's

1:15:47

all love. And my

1:15:49

love for Minnesota is still the same. That

1:15:51

was an exciting, you and KJ was an exciting

1:15:54

duo, man. It was crazy. And

1:15:56

what I tried to express

1:15:59

and explain I was like look

1:16:01

this has nothing to do with my decision

1:16:04

Because what I did was I went to Glen

1:16:06

Taylor. I went to the owner and I said mr.

1:16:08

Taylor I said look you guys have been

1:16:10

nothing but nice to me you guys get you drafted

1:16:12

me I Said but in

1:16:15

the free Asian market when the

1:16:17

time come I said it's best for you to

1:16:19

try to trade for me to get Something for

1:16:22

me then to let me walk and become

1:16:24

a free agent. He was working with them But

1:16:26

they're not Kevin

1:16:28

McCall he didn't like it. He was mad, you

1:16:31

know, we was building something and now I understand

1:16:33

and I get it but

1:16:35

at the time, you know I'm

1:16:38

like, there's no way I can Be

1:16:42

here two days later I'm

1:16:46

all these different things. I cannot

1:16:48

be selfish Jealous

1:16:50

of Kev I'm

1:16:52

like what are you serious? Yeah.

1:16:55

Oh you can't make the same amount of money So

1:16:59

you mad I'm like you guys I

1:17:02

said, there's a ceiling over our head

1:17:05

There's literally a cat There's

1:17:09

no making no more money There's

1:17:11

no more making 200 300. No, that's over a date

1:17:13

that was killed So

1:17:16

with that in mind if that is

1:17:19

killed and we know that that's killed

1:17:22

You only can offer me what you

1:17:24

can offer everybody else Iverson You

1:17:26

know all of the people that

1:17:28

were up out Kobe that were signing for

1:17:31

max contracts So we all got the

1:17:33

same amount of money. It was all max. It

1:17:35

was already New

1:17:37

Jersey or I was going Yeah,

1:17:39

it's the same money is no different.

1:17:42

So it made no sense, you know, I'm

1:17:44

saying that order but I

1:17:46

Understood how people felt and I

1:17:48

still I was still able to

1:17:51

have compassion towards Fans

1:17:53

feeling the survey and people feeling the

1:17:55

survey and as I've gotten older and

1:17:57

moved past it, you know I

1:18:00

really get it. I was like, I would be

1:18:02

mad too. If I see what I'm watching and

1:18:04

I'm looking at this and the Midwest, we never

1:18:06

won and now we're winning. And then now all

1:18:08

of a sudden this guy's gonna leave because he

1:18:10

says it's cold. And we built this around you.

1:18:13

And we're building it around us. I would've been

1:18:15

in a real conference like, yo, my car spun

1:18:17

out like eight times, y'all. I didn't do that.

1:18:19

I was big bro. I didn't do bro with

1:18:21

that. Big bro. You were big bro. I

1:18:24

didn't do that. And I think maybe, you

1:18:26

know, I think maybe I should have shared

1:18:28

more of my experiences instead of it just

1:18:30

being the way I was. And then it

1:18:33

was kind of like when they went sideways,

1:18:35

it was like, well, this spun all the

1:18:37

way out. There's no explaining. Nobody, anyone, anybody.

1:18:39

It's all good though. Cause

1:18:43

you know, at the end of the day, every

1:18:46

experience I got to really learn

1:18:48

something through all of them. And

1:18:50

I thank God now cause you know,

1:18:54

at 47 years old and experience,

1:18:56

you know, I was one of the

1:18:59

guys, I went to play in the Midwest. So

1:19:01

I got fans in Minnesota. Then I went to play

1:19:04

in New Jersey. I got fans in New Jersey. Then

1:19:06

I left from New Jersey. I went to the sun.

1:19:10

So I got fans in the West Coast, the

1:19:12

suns. And then I left and went to New

1:19:14

York. And then I went and

1:19:16

capped it off and went to Boston. You the beloved

1:19:18

son though. Like this is what I'm saying. It's beautiful.

1:19:20

And this is why I appreciate

1:19:23

you like coming on the show and like saying

1:19:25

like, yo, I want to talk. I

1:19:27

want to talk to champ to see what this is about because I

1:19:30

really wanted people but wanted to

1:19:32

see us have a conversation.

1:19:35

Myself and you, we endured some of

1:19:37

the same shit here in

1:19:39

New York. And to see, to

1:19:41

come back full circle and to

1:19:44

be able to be loved the way that

1:19:46

I will say you and I are loved

1:19:48

in this city. Now, it

1:19:51

makes it worth it. It makes the bush worth

1:19:53

it. It makes the You're going to be blueberry,

1:19:55

yo. That's

1:19:58

different. Can

1:20:01

you imagine walking to the game and you go

1:20:03

to the court, boo-boo-boo. What

1:20:06

you went through, what you went through. Right, well

1:20:08

check this out, check this out, check this out,

1:20:10

right. So they start out the game, go on

1:20:12

Boo Berry, but at the end of the game

1:20:15

they go on Marlberry. They

1:20:17

like, yo, the security guard, so

1:20:19

my brother, my brother was just telling me, he was

1:20:21

like, yo, the security guard was like, yo, Steph went

1:20:23

on the court, they was calling him Boo Berry, he

1:20:25

came out and gave him 40. And

1:20:29

Steph walked off the court like, boo what?

1:20:33

Yeah, the trash, the trash bags

1:20:35

and all that shit though, that's

1:20:37

in line, that's FUELO. That's

1:20:39

FUELO. No,

1:20:41

the way you was playing, when you was getting

1:20:44

on the court you was going harder because you

1:20:46

knew, you knew what it was. That's how they

1:20:48

beat you to life. They're like,

1:20:50

you gotta fuck these niggas up. They're like, get you

1:20:52

to a move like that. You

1:20:55

know what I mean? You

1:20:57

know what I mean? I

1:20:59

was the one at other players, I

1:21:01

was the one at the game, like, yo,

1:21:04

what's up, I ain't coming for that. I

1:21:07

said, bro, I ain't coming for that, man. Touch

1:21:12

it on that, man. Both

1:21:16

of y'all, respectively, are

1:21:18

New York-nicked, like, hometown heroes, man.

1:21:21

Like, y'all careers is lauded,

1:21:24

everybody say hi as high as 20-20, so y'all come

1:21:26

back to the garden, y'all get nothing but love. A

1:21:28

piece of fabric, as Wes said, you know, that's who

1:21:30

we are. We are a piece of fabric. And I

1:21:32

told somebody, I was like, yo, I didn't take

1:21:36

nobody, I didn't take this team to

1:21:38

the finals or win play. I

1:21:40

said, this is just from gritting grind going

1:21:42

on the court, entertaining, I was the entertainer.

1:21:45

Oh, comprehension. Period,

1:21:47

I was the entertainer, that's what the love

1:21:49

was for. It's not for the

1:21:51

getting to the finals like Allen Houston to them.

1:21:53

They got their love. We got our love. You

1:21:56

got your period of time. I

1:22:01

got my love with my love with that

1:22:03

love like Jar Jar and Brunson they got

1:22:05

their love right now. And it's

1:22:07

beautiful to see you know what I'm saying and I love

1:22:09

the fact that I get the chance

1:22:11

to cheer that on and champion you

1:22:14

know to see those guys because with

1:22:16

those three kids from Villanova, it's a

1:22:18

beautiful nucleus man. And you had said

1:22:20

you have you have mentioned that Jalen

1:22:22

Brunson deserves to be in every pizza.

1:22:25

He's in the space. He got the right

1:22:27

mind frame and they're winning. So

1:22:30

they're winning and he's in the right mind space

1:22:32

as far as doing what's

1:22:35

needed to push my team forward right.

1:22:37

Not only is he pushing his team

1:22:39

forward but he's pushing them forward with

1:22:41

him playing the game the way how

1:22:43

he plays it which is the right

1:22:46

way and he has his teammates

1:22:48

gathering around him doing it even with Randu

1:22:50

out. They went by they was down by

1:22:52

20 in the garden you know

1:22:55

it's hard. It's hard to come back. Come

1:22:58

on man. The MVP is just

1:23:00

transferring and then he just start going.

1:23:03

Like that is MVP style stuff

1:23:05

like you know same thing with

1:23:07

the kids Shay from Oklahoma. He's

1:23:10

having an MVP season as well. Luca like right

1:23:12

now I feel like those guys are making a

1:23:14

dash for it right now. You

1:23:16

know what I'm saying? They're all pushing. They're

1:23:18

having some elite games. You

1:23:21

know and to be a part of

1:23:23

that right now is something that I

1:23:25

want to be a part of. That's

1:23:27

the next on my team. I grew

1:23:29

up watching that team to

1:23:31

be able to have us on the for

1:23:34

us to be on the same page. You

1:23:37

know what I'm saying? On the same page being

1:23:39

able to come to the game support

1:23:41

show love mix and mingle with the

1:23:44

people you know talk to people

1:23:46

in a real space. They only

1:23:48

saw me in basketball space. They never see

1:23:50

me in this space. It's needed though man.

1:23:53

It's needed for you to be back. in

1:24:00

the garden for so many reasons.

1:24:04

And we don't have to go into those

1:24:06

reasons, but it's needed for you to

1:24:08

be back in there, your energy to be

1:24:10

back in the garden and to

1:24:12

start building those

1:24:14

relationships back up where

1:24:17

the players can see, oh, this is

1:24:20

this is stuff. Like, we need

1:24:22

that energy back. Yeah, yeah. Like for

1:24:24

me. As

1:24:26

a fan, I

1:24:29

need that energy for you. Thank

1:24:31

you. Being able to come back, you know, this

1:24:33

is, that's why I step, like fuck everything else.

1:24:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did what

1:24:38

he had to do. That's strawberry, nigga. Yo, at the

1:24:40

end of the day. So I just want that appreciation.

1:24:42

It's a lot of players. Absolutely. I feel like it's

1:24:44

a lot. For real. It's a

1:24:47

lot of players that

1:24:50

I would say that I was bubble. Yes.

1:24:52

Right. And I say this makeup, because this

1:24:54

is a different type of makeup. This is

1:24:56

a different cloth that shit was cut from.

1:24:59

So and it's other players that's cut

1:25:01

from that cloth too, that don't get what

1:25:04

they deserve and they shy

1:25:06

away from it. Because nobody's pulling them

1:25:09

towards it. So now that

1:25:12

everybody can meet at different points of

1:25:14

life, he meeting at a totally different

1:25:16

point of life. We meeting at a

1:25:18

totally different point of life. The city meeting

1:25:20

at a totally different point of life. This

1:25:23

is the tradition. You can't

1:25:25

keep skipping over me and

1:25:27

Steph and then get to keep going

1:25:29

back to Clyde and them. That's

1:25:32

the lineage, but what happens? What's everybody in

1:25:34

between that? Legacy is a story, right? And

1:25:36

I think that needs to go for all

1:25:39

the teams in the NBA. We got to

1:25:41

start tapping back to that lineage and that

1:25:43

tradition of who was really here.

1:25:46

We got to start supporting that shit. And we got

1:25:48

to put pressure on them organizations. You're a part of.

1:25:51

You're a part of like,

1:25:53

as I said, you're part of the

1:25:55

fabric and being part of the fabric.

1:25:58

You contribute some. type

1:26:00

of entertainment in

1:26:02

a form where people

1:26:04

were excited. They had a positive

1:26:07

day after that. They

1:26:09

talked about it the next day at work. They

1:26:12

read about it. They were there. They lived

1:26:14

in that moment and

1:26:17

you know being a New York Knicks

1:26:19

fan you know they

1:26:21

say we're the most fickle fans in the world.

1:26:24

One day we can love you the next day we can hate you.

1:26:26

I know as only as

1:26:28

a Knicks fan because you know

1:26:32

you always want your team to win

1:26:36

and you know you go through so

1:26:38

many different phases of making excuses for

1:26:40

the team and getting on

1:26:42

the team but when you're a part of

1:26:44

the fabric as you

1:26:46

are in I am and you're supporting

1:26:49

the team that energy will

1:26:51

allow them to continue to propel us gassing

1:26:53

them on a sideline. Absolutely. That gas is

1:26:55

real. But we have to be there. Yeah

1:26:57

we will. They don't know that they don't

1:26:59

know that energy like we will but your

1:27:01

point we we grew up watching teams and

1:27:03

watching players and I think you know fuck

1:27:05

that what the fuck are you doing like

1:27:07

man go do that like me we come

1:27:10

here to see a fucking show. If I

1:27:12

came to see him I want to see

1:27:14

a show. I know what I'm here to

1:27:16

see. Period. You get what I'm saying?

1:27:18

Period. They need to lead that now

1:27:20

you know what I mean? Like the

1:27:23

energy is coming back around that. We

1:27:25

just us putting it putting that energy

1:27:27

out. Yeah. It's start the manifestation is

1:27:29

already started. Absolutely indeed. And me being

1:27:31

there and you being there and them

1:27:34

wanting me there and wanting us to

1:27:36

do that to push New York it's

1:27:39

crazy you know they're gonna be

1:27:41

doing something you know in China in

1:27:43

the future and I think you'll be

1:27:45

perfect to be one of the people

1:27:47

that come to represent and do that. Yeah we

1:27:49

making our way over there. Yeah. Coming over the

1:27:52

water. Coming

1:27:54

over the water. It's different. It's nice.

1:27:56

Y'all both obviously staples of the next

1:27:58

year get mad love. when you come back,

1:28:00

but in the playing days, the

1:28:03

exits wasn't exactly smooth. You know what I

1:28:05

mean? How do you get past that to

1:28:07

the point where you are now, where you

1:28:09

sitting at the garden and you're getting all

1:28:11

that love? Well, for me, I

1:28:13

understood before I got to the New

1:28:16

York Knicks, who

1:28:18

the New York Knicks were. So

1:28:20

being a New York kid and watching

1:28:22

it, seeing it, reading about it with

1:28:24

other players, from, I can remember watching

1:28:26

from Dave Checkers and Pat

1:28:28

Riley back in the days. So

1:28:32

I'm that kid that

1:28:34

had those experiences growing up for

1:28:36

the Knicks, being one of

1:28:38

those dudes like, man, Checkers

1:28:40

is gonna pick me. You know what

1:28:42

I'm saying? So when you see

1:28:44

how things play out, you know it could be

1:28:47

for good or it could be for bad. But

1:28:49

when it's for the good, when you're in New

1:28:51

York, you know what it is. And I chose

1:28:53

to live on that side, although

1:28:55

I knew that it could be bad as well.

1:28:58

When I ended my relationship with

1:29:00

the Knicks, bitter was, I was

1:29:03

more, I was mad and I was upset

1:29:05

and I was frustrated because that's my team.

1:29:08

Not so much of what happened and what went

1:29:10

on as far as when I

1:29:12

was playing and when I wasn't playing. I

1:29:15

had my part in the things that I

1:29:17

did as well. So I take my responsibility

1:29:19

of the things that I

1:29:21

didn't do correct, as far as being one

1:29:23

of the leaders of the team. But

1:29:26

as I grow and I learn and

1:29:28

I go to another team in China

1:29:31

and all of the things that I

1:29:33

experienced and what I went through from

1:29:36

playing in the NBA and especially

1:29:38

the Knicks, I was

1:29:40

able to reverse all of the things that

1:29:42

I didn't do well. I was able to

1:29:44

transfer it and do something that was really

1:29:47

positive and good for my team that I

1:29:49

was playing for so that we could win

1:29:51

championships. Because that's all it was at the

1:29:53

end of the day. I'm in my 30s.

1:29:56

I'm like, that's what I want to do. So

1:29:58

after winning and going... through

1:30:00

all of it, I went through and receiving the

1:30:02

accolades that I received in China. I was able

1:30:04

to transfer that over to something

1:30:07

positive and looking at New York as that

1:30:09

was something that I was supposed to go

1:30:11

through so I could grow through

1:30:13

it to be able to be here, to be

1:30:16

able to accept the love that they show on

1:30:18

me right now. So Guy wrote it exactly the

1:30:22

way how it was supposed to be written for him

1:30:25

to me, to show people like, trust

1:30:27

me, you know, you may

1:30:30

not agree, but this is

1:30:32

right here proof because I

1:30:34

can, in New York, you can't make nobody

1:30:36

clap for you in New York. They

1:30:38

keep announcing, they keep like, yo, everybody clap and give

1:30:40

it up for, that don't work like

1:30:43

that. Not even on the train when they're like,

1:30:45

it's not gonna do nothing. Don't go like that.

1:30:49

If you want to use back to

1:30:51

clap, Guy, I mean, exactly. So

1:30:53

for me to be able to be

1:30:55

in that space and to be able

1:30:57

to receive that applause, it

1:31:00

just, from my heart, what it did, it

1:31:02

just, it made me feel like I'm finally

1:31:04

home, I'm good. You know what I'm

1:31:06

saying? I could do business here in America. I

1:31:08

could do business with people in New York. I

1:31:10

could come to the game, like give us all

1:31:13

over with, but you know, again, I had to

1:31:15

go through what I went through and go

1:31:17

into China, learning what I had to learn to

1:31:20

be able to, you know, put myself in a

1:31:22

situation where I could communicate on that, on that level.

1:31:25

That's enlightenment. Yo, that's it, bro. You

1:31:27

said it, bro, is growth. You know what I

1:31:29

mean? It's going through some bullshit and

1:31:31

coming out of the end, being like, hey, look, I

1:31:34

went through this bullshit and it taught me a lot.

1:31:36

And now I'm back with it quick. And

1:31:40

I was the cleanup hitter

1:31:44

to him when I look back

1:31:46

at it. Right? So I'm

1:31:48

looking at it. Nah,

1:31:50

nah, this is what's going on over there. Like the

1:31:52

whole world is looking at that. Oh, this is what's

1:31:54

going on over there. And everybody's like, I'm not fucked

1:31:56

with that. I'm not. That shit

1:31:59

is crazy in New York. them niggas that

1:32:01

organization is crazy so when

1:32:03

it's my time I'm just sitting there looking

1:32:05

like that's

1:32:07

I know the mecca is

1:32:09

calling me like it's it takes a certain

1:32:12

player to deal with that but I

1:32:14

know from growing up in it so I know what to

1:32:16

expect I know the people I know

1:32:18

how to move around you get

1:32:20

what I'm saying it's a different energy that I

1:32:22

wanted and also I was trying to hit that

1:32:25

curve from a business aspect like okay I

1:32:27

ain't doing this forever I'm not

1:32:30

going to be doing basketball I gotta figure I don't

1:32:32

know what I gotta figure out but

1:32:34

I know that's gonna help me get to what I need to

1:32:36

figure out so when I came it was

1:32:38

I was so adamant like you know what fuck that

1:32:40

I'm taking I'm taking that challenge but

1:32:42

I'm a student I'm looking at not only him I'm

1:32:44

looking at how they treated Jeter

1:32:47

how A-Rod coming through I'm looking at

1:32:50

football guys I'm looking at how everybody

1:32:52

who was who who wore

1:32:54

the white hat in New York teams how

1:32:57

they was handled how they was mishandled I'm

1:32:59

taking all of that information so for me

1:33:01

I was just like you know what no matter what

1:33:04

the fuck happens I know today if

1:33:06

I if I score 40 and we win I'm

1:33:08

the best thing since slice bread I know

1:33:10

tomorrow if I score 40 and we lose

1:33:12

I'm the worst thing you know I'm selfish

1:33:15

I'm a bad locker room guy

1:33:17

I'm battling the bus like oh

1:33:20

I'm hyping shit so I was

1:33:22

very aware of all of

1:33:24

that which is why I always kept it

1:33:26

the same I'm always speak to everybody

1:33:28

I'm gonna speak to every media member out there

1:33:31

whatever the fuck is in the article I'm gonna

1:33:33

speak on it I'm a man up to

1:33:35

it and I'm gonna keep it moving if shit

1:33:37

go down I ain't saying nothing

1:33:40

because I know I'm gonna go out there and I

1:33:43

gotta do what I gotta do because of the pressures

1:33:45

of being talked about

1:33:48

barked on shit it on hate it

1:33:50

on but I still gotta go out here

1:33:52

and perform right these motherfuckers

1:33:54

only care about performance and winning that's it

1:33:56

fuck what anybody else is saying So

1:33:59

I knew that. I was very

1:34:01

much aware of the anna also knew

1:34:03

the truth. So. Would

1:34:05

you know the truth? You. Ain't gotta

1:34:07

speak on. You know, speak only

1:34:10

truth. And. I know we spoke

1:34:12

about timing before this is about it was of

1:34:14

it was. Dog.

1:34:16

A Me of Time Emmy eligible. Speak with you.

1:34:18

You speak and as if you've made up and

1:34:20

may not be how you want to speak it

1:34:22

and their moment. But. You.

1:34:24

Will speak it a may be other ways

1:34:26

that that that information come out that it

1:34:29

a go be a medium member talk with

1:34:31

the him like he's shown me. All.

1:34:33

Of this and I guess had to be. I had to be patient.

1:34:36

And just take what was coming along with

1:34:38

that when I lived in, knowing each will

1:34:40

stop. Still, Know the truth While

1:34:42

ago when I'll ago we know we're we're

1:34:45

we're when I'm with you doing at a

1:34:47

time And then we ended up. Claim.

1:34:50

I'm. In.

1:34:54

Portland. At the end. When.

1:34:56

I see play an employer and I say

1:34:58

he's free. Again, he's back

1:35:01

to playing. His.

1:35:03

Style A Basketball. Uses.

1:35:06

Freak as I watched it and I see

1:35:08

it as I am a Naga. under was

1:35:10

frustrating. I mean are less so you guys.

1:35:13

Like. I've said he stay. You.

1:35:15

Say you didn't go nowhere else in. you

1:35:17

know you Today you stay work in. Okay

1:35:20

to plan an M B A is

1:35:22

harder. Plan in time if is. If

1:35:25

you try to play in a be a

1:35:27

you live in a plane twenty five, thirty

1:35:29

minutes right away straight but. You. Know

1:35:31

when you voted out Go China other places

1:35:33

you play right away by. I live in

1:35:35

his nose do the best player right away.

1:35:38

But. Will you plan on seeing that

1:35:40

air? Really good is gonna take times

1:35:42

I just gotta learn is all processed.

1:35:45

These. Figured out a new role, you figured

1:35:47

out a new way how to be happy

1:35:49

on why you're one of quite. Das.

1:35:51

What I saw I didn't talk to you at

1:35:54

in see you but. From. Me

1:35:56

watch new for me. Know you from.

1:35:58

You know, see you, Umbra! For me I

1:36:01

was younger, the way. Flow.

1:36:05

See you in that. Space.

1:36:07

Play an important in as is is like.

1:36:09

Wow. Washes do just pretty much Ny,

1:36:12

Get a chance to go play basketball

1:36:14

and is do gun score Twenty five

1:36:16

thirty How to you now? want that?

1:36:19

The. Does not want that one a day

1:36:21

after the energy.a They were out that

1:36:23

I felt that energy. Which. Is

1:36:25

why. I when it got. Double.

1:36:28

Zero and Upload piece on a back

1:36:30

of my jersey. Because. I

1:36:32

really was at peace when I was

1:36:34

implement. Seems like the double zero wasn't

1:36:36

just the dubs zero like out without

1:36:38

the infinity number. You. Get what

1:36:40

I'm say. Das the double Zero was for so.

1:36:43

Pieces. Infinite you go and I'm sad. His never

1:36:45

ending pieces. I had that on the back of my

1:36:47

jersey. And my energy. But I was

1:36:49

carrying that. I. Was carrying a piece

1:36:52

which is why the energy. Was.

1:36:54

Being put out to the were away I

1:36:56

wasn't even speak and some umbro says david

1:36:58

he felt that he felt the in oh

1:37:00

yeah out that's how I look. I mean

1:37:02

our when I'm at three because of the

1:37:04

father, the son in the holy spirit and

1:37:06

do. That's. Why? When I'm at

1:37:08

three? That's why my oldest brother, Eric started

1:37:11

wearing them. The Three. Ah

1:37:13

Miss Trinity. And. You.

1:37:15

Know. What? You were displayed

1:37:17

nice. Score It in dawn on the

1:37:19

that the Aura users users with you

1:37:21

was free It was a relief air

1:37:23

use free Agassi A when I was

1:37:25

living was your cell year he back

1:37:27

in this space. In you

1:37:29

know there's no better place like

1:37:32

Kyrie. You look at Cari he's

1:37:34

free or is very own. Is

1:37:37

this is no space or place

1:37:39

like you in the M B.

1:37:41

A Winger who been without. All.

1:37:43

The that. All. The that

1:37:45

noise. Like. That's Noise Nine

1:37:47

dealing with your family and the Alamodome

1:37:49

that he would as you do. Where

1:37:52

do you know? This.

1:37:54

When you can get on of course you

1:37:56

can be free And you're A You're a

1:37:58

your own free will. access

1:38:01

that's for you and

1:38:03

only for you and that guy who's a

1:38:05

player is for him for him to do

1:38:07

that and then now you guys get to

1:38:09

get on the court and do what it is you're gonna do

1:38:12

music that's that's that's that's

1:38:14

when the symphony comes out right bring out

1:38:16

as Jamal Crawford said bring out the band

1:38:30

listen man a little bit of a high seat you know what

1:38:32

I mean but 2004 man the Olympic

1:38:36

the infamous Olympic team

1:38:38

even Jeter was like yo what's good daddy

1:38:40

what's your thought out here we don't like

1:38:43

what I want

1:38:45

to just hear from y'all you know I'm saying like

1:38:48

we didn't somebody else you hear from me we lost

1:38:50

we didn't have you know

1:38:53

Larry Brown wanted to coach the team like

1:38:55

it was like it was the 76ers but

1:38:58

it was the dream thing it wasn't you

1:39:00

know it wasn't the Joe

1:39:02

Ratliff out

1:39:04

there man it was it was crazy good

1:39:06

you know we came we came and the

1:39:10

practice is cool but we're not we

1:39:12

don't play the same way as Aaron

1:39:14

McKee and Eric Snow

1:39:17

it's different roles you know it's

1:39:19

not the same way so you

1:39:21

know that adjustment and we

1:39:23

wasn't really ready you know

1:39:26

during that time period it was a

1:39:28

lot going on on in the

1:39:30

world with the with the war you know

1:39:33

we didn't even know we were gonna be staying

1:39:35

at first we thought we're gonna be standing on

1:39:37

the Queen Mary 3 like how did that happen

1:39:39

what is that a hotel dude the boat was the

1:39:46

Queen Mary 3 during the time this

1:39:48

is when Iraq with the whole everything

1:39:51

was going on what they had divers

1:39:53

underneath the boat 24 hours monitoring just

1:39:56

to make sure that nothing would go down like

1:40:00

That's how we were living on a

1:40:02

boat, dude. Like... And then they want

1:40:04

you to run. There's no action. There

1:40:06

was no like, no life. It was

1:40:08

like just the boat, food, and

1:40:11

these cabins. That's it.

1:40:13

But you know, Larry Brown, I think during that

1:40:15

time, you know, I think

1:40:18

he was in a space trying to prove himself. And

1:40:21

you know, we just didn't play. We

1:40:24

didn't play to win. We

1:40:26

played like we was trying to do

1:40:29

our best to finish this and

1:40:31

go home. Were

1:40:34

you in a creamery? Am I? Why

1:40:37

you laughing? I'm laughing. I'm laughing

1:40:40

because I

1:40:42

know what the fuck was going on. I know the shit

1:40:44

that I took from that. But

1:40:48

I also know the shit that he was

1:40:50

dealing with. I didn't even want to go

1:40:52

in and talk about it. I was the

1:40:54

whooping boy. Because what? Dude, I was the

1:40:56

real whooping boy. Like, I'm going to

1:40:58

pick on him. Like, I was that dude. You didn't

1:41:00

pick the side. I got him. You got him. Anyway,

1:41:04

that was... It was... I'm going

1:41:06

to leave it at this. Because I got to go. But I'm

1:41:08

going to leave it at this. It

1:41:10

was good for basketball, globally. We

1:41:14

lost in 2004. It

1:41:17

was good for basketball globally that we didn't

1:41:19

win. OK. Then

1:41:21

the redeem team. I was like, oh, there we

1:41:23

go! Y'all

1:41:25

got everybody. All of a

1:41:28

sudden, Kobe wanted to be back. All of a sudden,

1:41:30

they were back. What is going to play? You know

1:41:32

I was like, oh, look at this. Then

1:41:35

you're going to go get a college coach. You're

1:41:37

going to go get Coach K. Oh, really? You're

1:41:39

going to go get a guy who really do

1:41:42

this. Like, college is fever,

1:41:44

basically. Like, college is fever. Like, college

1:41:46

is fever. Like, college is fever. Like,

1:41:48

college is fever. Like, college is fever.

1:41:50

But, college is fever. Like, college is

1:41:52

fever. You go get a guy. Then

1:41:54

they got time to practice. And they

1:41:56

all together, I was like, oh. We

1:41:58

got on the ball. We really only

1:42:00

have two weeks. Jane. And

1:42:02

enjoy exactly the same vicinity

1:42:05

of. The

1:42:07

Herbal. One last

1:42:09

are you know. I'd

1:42:11

say like this. Ever. Got

1:42:13

a Super Bowl. Halftime. So

1:42:16

I guarantee you they logos the

1:42:18

President Obama be voted. On

1:42:22

and. Maybe

1:42:28

they're doing like to. Know

1:42:31

our way. Out

1:42:35

for is no no. No,

1:42:37

I. Saw

1:42:40

World's Oil. What are you gonna say?

1:42:42

we gotta do to survive on a

1:42:44

one? My restart. Rabbit implanted know.

1:42:48

If he ever go back, the Little

1:42:50

Dollars is not in the door by

1:42:52

Philip. Zelikow

1:42:56

Man. Word of. Smile

1:42:59

but allows I had to endure Go