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8-4 Play 10/20/2023: EXCESSIVE DOODAD FORCE

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8-4 Play 10/20/2023: EXCESSIVE DOODAD FORCE

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8-4 Play 10/20/2023: EXCESSIVE DOODAD FORCE

8-4 Play 10/20/2023: EXCESSIVE DOODAD FORCE

Friday, 20th October 2023
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0:30

イエ エー ーイ イ! シャ ャイ イマ マセ

0:32

セー ーン ン! 次回

0:37

回の のリ リモ モー ート トプ プレ レイ イで でお お会 会い いし しま まし しょ

0:39

ょう う 8- -4 4プ

0:41

プレ レイ イの の番 番組 組 日本 本と と日 日本 本の のゲ ゲー ーム ムに につ つい いて て話 話す

0:43

すの のが が 初め めて ての の最 最も も希

0:45

希望 望の の番 番組 組で です す 私は

0:49

はマ マー ーキ キー ー・ ・ウ ウィ ィン ンジ ジュ ュー ース ス・ ・マ マク クド ドナ ナル ルド ドで です す

0:52

今度 度は は2

0:54

20 00 0%の の 悪い い音 音質 質と と不 不気 気味 味な なパ パー ース スを を お送

0:59

送り りし しま ます す ごめ めん んな なさ

1:01

さい い リモ

1:03

モー ート トプ プレ レイ イに に戻 戻っ って てき きま まし した た

1:06

2人 人の の人 人が がリ リモ モー ート トプ プレ レイ イを をし して てい いま

1:08

ます す そう うで です す 2人

1:11

人の の人 人が がリ リモ モー ート トプ プレ レイ イを をし して てい いま ます す 今は

1:14

は1 1人 人の の人 人が が私 私で です す

1:17

マー ーキ キー ー・ ・ウ ウィ ィン ンジ ジュ ュー ース ス・ ・マ マク クド ドナ ナル

1:19

ルド ド それ れは はあ あな なた たの のニ ニッ ック クネ ネー ーム ムで では はあ あり りま ませ せん

1:21

ん 私の のニ ニッ ック クネ

1:23

ネー ーム ムで では はあ あり りま ませ せん んか か? 私の のニ ニッ ック

1:25

クネ ネー ーム ムは は何 何で です すか か? 8-

1:28

-4 4フ フル ルワ ワイ イル ルス スの のパ パー ーシ シャ ャン ンツ ツゼ ゼロ ロ

1:33

それ れは はと とて ても もク クレ レイ イジ ジー ーな なニ ニッ ック クネ ネー ーム ムで

1:36

です す それ れが がた たく くさ さん んの のレ レベ ベル ルで で動 動い いて

1:38

てい いま ます す それ れは は1 1つ

1:40

つだ だけ けで です す それ れが があ あな なた たが が必 必要 要な なだ だけ けで です

1:42

す パー ーシ シャ ャン ンツ ツゼ ゼロ ロは は誰 誰も

1:44

もが が私 私が が持 持っ って てい いた たも もの のを を持 持っ って てい いま ませ せん んか か?

1:47

それ れは は議 議論 論的 的で です す

1:49

何? 私が が持 持っ って

1:51

てい いた たも もの のを を誰 誰が が持 持っ って てい いる るの のか か? 私が が持 持っ って てい いた

1:53

たも もの のを を誰 誰が が持 持っ って てい いる るの のか か? リス

1:56

スナ ナー ーが が覚 覚え えて てい いる るよ よう うに に、私 私は は前

1:58

前回 回の の放 放送 送で で 私は は絶

1:59

絶対 対に に feeling great. I did distance

2:01

and I was masked. It did turn

2:04

out to have COVID two days

2:07

later, by the way,

2:09

but I had

2:11

dinner with a person who also

2:14

had COVID two nights after, actually,

2:18

the podcast, and then three days

2:20

later was diagnosed. It finally

2:22

got me. COVID finally got me.

2:26

I still don't, I know those tests

2:28

when they go positive, it's supposed to be a

2:31

very faint line. One

2:33

that will tell you. It doesn't matter. Yeah. And I did test negative

2:40

only I didn't, didn't test until

2:42

three days later. And then I did test negative

2:45

and then negative again the next day. So it's like a little like

2:47

baby strain. I don't,

2:50

I don't trust those tests. I've never

2:52

tested positive for COVID, but I've been like deathly

2:54

ill like seven times now. So either

2:57

I'm either I'm immune or yeah,

3:00

I don't know. You can't really, them being

3:02

negative is kind of not super

3:05

reliable, but them testing positive

3:07

supposedly, supposedly is. Sure.

3:11

If you believe, if you believe what Bill Gates once

3:14

implanted in your head, then then yeah,

3:16

supposedly those things are, which we do on

3:19

the 5g is beaming to all of us.

3:22

But let's, let's go around

3:24

real quick. First up,

3:27

he's just killing time until the next vampire

3:29

survivors port that is Gabe compact

3:32

disc daily on.

3:34

Hi, that's also

3:36

you want to talk about your back here. Is that right? Yeah.

3:39

That what? Yeah, I don't normally take,

3:41

I don't normally solicit or

3:44

take suggestions for people's nicknames,

3:46

but in this case, I did kind

3:49

of blindly so

3:51

that I could, I could enjoy along with

3:53

the audience. This amazing story

3:55

that we're about to hear. Gabe,

3:58

go for it. disc.

4:01

So what I thought was carpal tunnel

4:04

that I was suffering from for like let's

4:07

say half a year I finally

4:09

went to a I

4:11

almost said pediatrician I went

4:14

to inverted fetus and

4:16

he was like no dog that's a herniated disc look

4:18

at this MRI that's you

4:20

confused so our both tunnel with the herniated

4:22

disc yeah cuz I was having a nerve

4:25

first I was having pain in both of my

4:27

arms from the forearm

4:30

up to the elbows on both sides and on my

4:32

right hand the pinky and

4:34

ring finger were a

4:36

little sciatica where a little numb

4:39

here and there and I was like oh I'm pretty sure that's

4:41

the carpal nerve thing that's going on

4:43

there let's let's get

4:45

that diagnosed finally because it was getting to the point

4:47

where I couldn't even read

4:50

in bed because it was hurting so much

4:53

like just having a book and lying down

4:55

and just like putting my elbows on the bed

4:57

was just too painful for me sounds

4:59

like switch elbow I started

5:02

a coworker today that said that he's had

5:04

to go ever since the first Zelda came out

5:07

on the first zelt switches all day a cave

5:09

breath of the wild he he played it yeah

5:11

in bed that yeah I had to do that problems

5:14

with his elbows and shoulders that he has to still

5:16

go to Wow a yeah

5:19

to a which chiropractor yeah

5:22

but so gave is their hope is there hope for you

5:24

or is this something that I

5:27

physical therapy yeah how

5:29

old are you again you're in your 30s

5:32

yeah 33 this is my problem my first Jesus

5:34

Christ yes that's the age he died 33 yeah

5:38

Jesus Christ Wow where is yours yeah

5:40

oh you know your Lord I

5:42

know my Lord Lord your Lord Lord your Bible

5:45

or my

5:47

lordly not called lower when it's

5:49

not a reason when I don't

5:52

know why yeah despite all those lore

5:54

videos and that they go over the lot you

5:56

did yes more videos are to die

5:58

for The

6:02

orthopedist was like, this is

6:04

on the like, we probably don't need to do surgery.

6:08

So how about you do some rehab for like

6:10

a couple months and we'll see how this plays

6:12

out. Which is great because

6:14

I had my spine exploded for the first time

6:17

ever by the physical therapist dude,

6:20

where he like. Did you just say your spine

6:22

exploded? Yeah, what he did is he

6:24

put a towel on my back where my spine is.

6:26

That's a clinical phrase for it. I

6:29

refuse to believe, it's like, all right, well we're gonna explode

6:31

your spine. Come on in. It

6:33

was very. Schedule an appointment. Like explode

6:36

your spine. Or is that just what you call it from

6:38

the experience? I believe it's a clinical term.

6:40

Communication is difficult. So like he had me

6:42

put my elbows or hands on my head, put

6:45

my elbows in front of me. And then he put his back

6:47

on my spine, weaved his arms

6:50

into like the circles and then he went

6:52

like one, two, and

6:54

then all of a sudden the loudest cracks

6:57

I've ever heard emanated

6:59

from my back to the point where I freaked out.

7:02

I was like, holy, and everyone around me

7:04

was like, is this guy okay? I

7:06

just started laughing. Basically did what like an eighth grader

7:08

would have done to fix your back. Right,

7:10

right. You know, like the exact same treatment.

7:13

That's so very interesting. And did it feel better immediately

7:15

or what? Immediately for like

7:18

half of the day it felt great. So I've been

7:20

doing it for three weeks. And then I also

7:22

on the side started doing yoga,

7:25

which has also been really helpful. Well,

7:28

I'm sure we'll be hearing more about that

7:30

in future episodes. Take that into account,

7:33

listener, when you

7:35

choose to subscribe.

7:39

Let's see, also there, okay,

7:41

but yeah, glad you're

7:43

on the road to recovery feeling better. Yeah,

7:46

some kind of nice, there you go. Ooh,

7:48

look at that, a little thumb popped up. Oh,

7:50

wow, didn't hurt. Then cast our crazy

7:53

technology we have here. Speaking of

7:55

technology, a woman

7:57

clearly in denial about her secret.

8:00

streaming ambitions that is

8:02

Tina wonderful 101 Carter hello hello

8:04

this is

8:07

we're

8:09

gonna have to explain part of this

8:12

because this is still not yet a

8:15

visual podcast coming

8:17

patreon tier coming but you have very

8:20

clearly in the background facing

8:23

the camera perfectly in

8:25

addition to a lot of different various goods

8:27

yes and that you're now hand modeling that's very helpful

8:30

we have in front

8:31

of

8:32

the TV

8:35

like blocking the TV in fact

8:37

but facing the web camera

8:40

we've got a Zelda limited edition

8:43

there what is that the

8:45

collector's edition of of tears or

8:47

yeah okay and then a night

8:50

at the woods is that also a collector's edition that looks

8:52

fancy

8:53

yeah it's the limited run collectors

8:56

edition box

8:58

and and they're just there

9:01

randomly no real

9:03

reason behind it just

9:05

there blocking the we are able to enjoy

9:07

it and it looks like you're like a star like a bite at the woods

9:10

streamer or a Zelda streamer

9:12

or a limited

9:14

run game streamer or I don't know

9:16

the retail collector's edition unboxed

9:19

streamer maybe perhaps could

9:21

be any of these things

9:23

the way that you can confirm that I

9:25

am not in fact you know

9:28

secretly streaming by night is that I don't

9:30

have a single LED in my office

9:32

with well the lights are on though

9:34

like minimum requirement

9:36

is color-changing LEDs

9:38

I figure you had under your desk like

9:40

the switches you had it hooked up to one of those boxes

9:43

that has little icons

9:45

on it that the streamers you streamers love

9:47

that we can't see off of camera you

9:49

do also have your very nice Mario 64

9:53

carpet that we have talked about on I

9:56

think the castle looking

9:58

very nice there Some other nice

10:01

accoutrements, some, what is that, a link to the

10:03

past concept art.

10:05

I see the stained glass window. You're basically

10:07

kind of slowly recreating the castle

10:10

in Mario 64. I

10:12

mean, by bit around you. That's

10:16

a pretty great castle to live in. What is the one-on-one

10:18

thing that totally went over my head?

10:21

Oh yeah. What was that?

10:23

That was, you have played 101 hours already of

10:25

Baldur's Gate 3. That

10:30

is true. In which we are going to talk more

10:33

about this episode, but

10:35

that's your life right now. Right? As you explained

10:37

it,

10:38

you work,

10:39

you eat, you play Baldur's Gate,

10:41

you sleep. That's basically,

10:44

that kind of rounds it out. You podcast. That's

10:46

it, day in, day out. Every other week. That's

10:51

not a bad life. I got to say from what I hear, if the

10:54

reviews are to be believed. Speaking

10:57

of that, a man who's

11:00

never met a PlayStation 5 he doesn't

11:02

like. That is John Retro

11:05

Game Master Master Ricky Ade. Hi.

11:09

That's right. I got my digital

11:11

PS5. What if you bought,

11:14

I feel like we should have a segment on the podcast

11:17

instead of like what you've been playing, which we do kind

11:19

of every time also. Right. What

11:21

have you bought? What have you bought since the last podcast?

11:24

So I didn't

11:27

come prepared. So who knows? I buy a lot of junk

11:30

gaming related gaming. I did buy, well, that's

11:32

a game, more or less all I buy, but I

11:35

did get a digital

11:37

PS5, the new, the new version, which

11:40

I was happy to get because they're, it was

11:42

always going to be harder to get in Japan. There's like, they don't

11:44

give us that many. They don't really, Japan's like the bastard

11:46

child. But they

11:49

went off on Amazon and I was persistent.

11:51

And after like five minutes, I actually got one. So

11:53

I'm very happy about that coming on launch day, November

11:55

10th, I think. You got the

11:57

digital on you went for digital. I wanted

11:59

one for. I'm in my bedroom basically. We were on our PS5

12:01

in the bedroom and so I decided to get the digital one.

12:04

I also, I haven't

12:06

received it yet but I bought a 4 terabyte

12:08

SSD for my PS5. I'm pretty excited

12:11

about that because I'm sick of having to delete something every

12:13

time I put something new on the PS5. We got

12:15

a lot of heavy games to know. That's an external

12:17

drive, right? That's a

12:19

nice little external drive. How much was it? They're

12:22

cheap now, right? It was like, you know,

12:24

what, $27,000. So it probably

12:27

like about $200. So yeah. Yeah.

12:30

Good. That shit's getting cheap.

12:32

Yeah, it's pretty exciting because I'm, yeah, and I have,

12:34

I already have a 1 terabyte SSD

12:37

in there now. So I figured I'll move that to the

12:39

new one and then I'm going to put the 4 terabyte

12:42

on the, on the living room PS5. And

12:45

that's not the only Sony hardware,

12:47

right? That you

12:50

ordered this. Had you already pre-ordered

12:53

the new PSB? No, I couldn't

12:55

get one. I tried. I missed out on that

12:57

one. Oh, that's what I'm thinking. You were trying. Yeah,

13:01

I actually, even though I don't

13:04

like it and sort of philosophically disagree with it,

13:06

I still want one. So, but I can't get it anyway.

13:09

How is it with all the mutual friends we have? I

13:11

know you've tried that

13:13

they, they apparently they're

13:15

not getting, like employees don't get hardware

13:19

early or something or in this case, like

13:22

how is it with all of our Sony PlayStation

13:24

friends, all the thousands of employees

13:26

that listen to this podcast that someone

13:29

has not gotten you, if

13:31

not for free, at least the ability

13:34

to buy. I'm not trying that hard

13:36

with that because to be honest, like I want

13:38

it more for curiosity. I'm

13:40

being serious now. Like it's more like the sort of

13:42

tech gadget curiosity purpose. Like I want to

13:44

get it and try it. I don't feel like it's something

13:47

I'm going to like use a lot once I actually

13:49

have it. So I'm not like in a rush. So I don't mind

13:51

if I don't get it right away. Isn't

13:53

it, it wouldn't it be kind of redundant in your

13:55

house. Pretty much. You have,

13:58

you're buying another whole. Thing for

14:00

your bedroom now that I have a ps5 in the bedroom

14:02

Yes, it actually does make it because originally

14:05

it was gonna be well I'll just use it in the bedroom, but now I don't

14:07

even write to do that So yeah, I

14:09

don't really need it. I may end up not getting it.

14:11

Honestly. I don't know. We'll see

14:12

But what I'm hearing is that John you need

14:14

to acquire this object to satisfy

14:17

your curiosity and then immediately

14:20

I will take it off your hand

14:21

Yeah,

14:23

good. He needs one.

14:25

My marriage is in danger

14:26

Okay, you get a spider

14:29

spider smits, right? Yeah,

14:32

but you can't both play it at the same time so

14:35

what's the difference right you can't play Baldur's

14:37

Gate while he plays spider-man so

14:41

She needs another ps5 as well. I would

14:43

consider acquiring a second ps5

14:46

Wow if it would save my marriage

14:47

You know is this your marriage in Baldur's Gate or

14:50

your real marriage? Cuz

14:52

like understand well, we're

14:53

not married in Baldur's Gate yet I see

14:55

we haven't really talked about what we are, but it's

14:57

going very well. You'll be happy

14:59

Were

15:01

you guys both that big of fans of the

15:03

first Marvel spider-man game

15:06

the Samiac spider-man game Tina?

15:08

No, he is.

15:10

Oh, oh Okay, and so

15:12

you're like that's gonna take up the ps5 now,

15:14

okay Mm-hmm.

15:17

We've already cool.

15:18

We've discussed scheduling agreements,

15:21

you know, like okay at this time it will

15:23

be your wow

15:26

Wait a second you're playing Baldur's

15:28

Gate on that's right on the

15:31

play stage. I thought you were playing on under

15:33

PC. Oh shit Okay.

15:35

Yeah, that is that is capital

15:37

T trouble Yeah,

15:40

I think we should preface this as sorry.

15:42

Don't be excited. We're not talking about Spider-man 2

15:46

yet. We're not talking about Super Mario wonder

15:48

yet our Friends

15:51

again quote-unquote friends scare

15:54

quotes friends of this show have

15:57

failed us on both counts

16:00

We did not get review copies

16:02

somehow. It's like we're not a legitimate

16:05

review outlet or something. It's like we talk about

16:07

games months after they come out or something. I

16:09

don't know what it is, but we

16:11

will be talking about both of those games because

16:14

we are very, very excited. To

16:16

be fair, to be appreciative, we did

16:18

get Spider-Man 2 codes, but we literally just

16:20

got them this morning. So not in time to do

16:22

much with them before this episode. But

16:25

we do appreciate you with the Vomniac. Thank you for

16:27

that. Thank you to those. So

16:29

that, you know who you are. That person

16:31

is a true friend of this show. And

16:33

it's not Brian and Darr, either. Just

16:37

in case people think that's who it is. So

16:41

since we're not going to talk about the

16:44

new Hotness, what

16:47

are we going to talk about? What have people,

16:50

John, you've been playing a new

16:52

to you game and a game some people might not

16:55

realize exists

16:58

or came out. Yeah, EDF 6,

17:01

Earth Defense Force 6, which actually just,

17:04

I think we might have talked about this, but it just recently,

17:06

maybe since the last episode, got announced for

17:08

the West as well. Oh, at

17:10

the time, it's just a coincidence because it's been

17:12

out here for like, I think over a year now

17:15

in Japan on PS5, at least. And

17:18

is it announced as it's still being called Earth Defense?

17:21

Are they all called out in the West? Or it's called 6? Okay.

17:24

Yeah, it's EDF 6. And I

17:27

haven't played one seriously since like

17:29

three. That's a long time ago. So it's

17:31

been a while. But my

17:34

wife and I both actually bought copies.

17:36

And you know, I have the side by side TV set

17:39

up in my living room. And so we both bought copies

17:41

on PS5 and are playing through the game co-op

17:44

and having an awesome time. It's

17:46

so much fun. Mark is a notorious, 20,

17:48

24, or five year old. I love this series. So

17:51

just put that out there in advance. But to

17:54

be honest, like spring 2024. So

17:57

it's still a little ways. But

18:00

uh, I can't imagine we're playing on ps5

18:03

and there is no slowdown, which is great It's really

18:05

really fast and there's so much shit going on

18:07

So like but I imagine on ps4

18:09

it's probably doesn't perform quite as well. But um

18:12

What a dirt defense force game

18:15

not high performance I think

18:17

when you the last one that you actually like Mm-hmm.

18:20

They kid though, like it's probably been over 10

18:22

years right mark Like let's get that out because

18:24

like you like to dog it, but you haven't actually

18:27

seen it get over a dick. Oh You

18:29

just remember a long time ago

18:32

when it was like notoriously crunchy It's

18:35

quite good every once in a while. I check

18:38

in every once in a while still got weird ass

18:40

controls still budget ass Sure

18:44

fun for fun for for what it is

18:46

if it was still a you know 2000 yen

18:50

no, it's it was not certainly not here. It's

18:52

like 8,000 yen or something now, but uh, but

18:54

it's uh, Yeah, we're having a blast

18:56

Nick setner actually recommended it I think I might have

18:59

talked about this on the TGS episode maybe because

19:01

he had my hunting down EDF

19:03

shirts for him at the show But

19:06

uh, yeah him and his buddy like I played through the game like multiple

19:08

times and he was talking it up and I was like Oh, it's

19:10

been a while. Maybe I'll give it a try and then it would happen

19:12

to be on sale and I got it and Yeah,

19:15

we're like 68 or 69

19:17

stages in and like it says we're

19:19

only 40% through so there's a lot of stages

19:23

But that is just so fun man. It's just like two-player

19:25

online co-op Especially like we're both

19:27

playing through everything together Like no

19:30

performance issues at all a billion things going

19:32

on screen at once a million weapons in this game

19:34

They all level up differently. They all perform differently

19:37

There's like a ton of different ways to play and like also

19:39

four different classes although we're both just playing through

19:41

in our first playthrough as like the regular Ranger class,

19:44

but um Yeah, it's really great. The

19:46

variety is awesome. There's a whole bunch of I mean since the last

19:48

time I played I don't know about since the last time normal

19:50

people have played but there's so many new aliens and different

19:52

kinds of things to fight against And

19:55

yeah, it's just like super like we

19:58

probably you know our House has the

20:00

same camera that Tina has where like, you know, we

20:02

could check in on our cats when we're not there and

20:05

I'm kind of scared to watch the videos of us both

20:07

playing at the same time because like There's

20:09

never in any game ever have there been this many

20:12

like f-bombs dropped for like various reasons

20:14

They're from like for because you for celebrating

20:17

For getting stuck up from behind from like a giant spider

20:19

and getting whooped or like getting knocked like a mile

20:22

away from something like to just like

20:24

yeah, sometimes the controls do piss

20:26

you off because in this game and it's really annoying evade

20:29

and jump are the same button you but

20:31

you have Really? It's always been this way.

20:33

Well to L2. This is the only thing though Actually,

20:37

these are controls are actually quite good. I would say overall

20:39

I don't I don't know Maybe they changed from 20 years

20:41

ago when you last played one But like the

20:43

only complaint that I have is that the L2 button

20:46

is evade and jump at the same time and that's Hard

20:48

because when you're running on an important job like

20:51

evade or jump in a game where

20:53

you're just Fucking

20:55

third-person shooter and your cousin the mind

20:57

away right forms of enemies So yeah, it can

20:59

get it can get an awesome times But um, but

21:02

yeah that produces their its own set of

21:04

f-bombs and yeah, it's just it's chaos

21:06

But we're having a really really good time And

21:09

footage

21:10

of this you shared some yeah

21:12

like on Instagram and stuff of gameplay

21:14

footage of this and I'm just

21:17

completely baffled at the Sheer

21:20

number of things

21:22

on the screen I've

21:24

never played anything that has this much shit on

21:26

the screen at once and on any platform

21:29

in any way like nothing Has much

21:31

going on you need to play a little game called

21:33

humanity Thank you. Right?

21:37

5,000 things on screen at once

21:42

You can tell what's happening When

21:44

I look at that gameplay footage John shared I'm like,

21:47

where is even your dude, how do you even know

21:49

where you're firing?

21:50

What's the fuck is going on? There's blood

21:52

there's do there's buildings. There's

21:54

bullets. There's fire. There's rain There's just

21:56

everything all over the place utter chaos.

21:59

It's so much fun

21:59

Unfinitely illegible

22:01

interesting enough the amount of total

22:03

polygons for every human in humanity

22:06

is the entire Polygonal budget for

22:08

a single screen of Earth Defense Force.

22:10

All right. All right little bit

22:13

of trivia there for you. Yes John

22:16

Lineman if he's listening He's

22:19

gonna count those polygons. No,

22:21

I like the kid Earth Defense Force,

22:23

but because it is kind of garbage

22:26

But it's kind of like fun.

22:29

I know why people like it. It's like a fun

22:31

piece of garbage. It's like It's

22:34

like Starship Troopers like

22:37

embracing its B moving this

22:39

but but unlike Starship Troopers

22:41

That's probably like it really

22:44

did kind of start off as like that was the best they

22:46

could do and now it's kind of like When

22:48

the controls are messed up or the frame

22:50

rate sucks or anything. It's just kind of like

22:53

becomes part of the charm They've like

22:55

weave this magic spell Over

22:58

people but well, there is no

23:00

frame rate issue any like literally it's

23:02

this constant 60 all the time now Which

23:04

is great and because on ps5 2 it

23:06

loads levels pretty much instantly. So The

23:10

graphics basically got frozen and amber

23:12

around So

23:15

it's good that frame rate at least

23:17

is increasing as each new One

23:20

comes out but even the trailers like, you know,

23:23

it's cool that they're embracing their Yeah,

23:26

that's what it's all about the chaotic turmoil.

23:28

It's great. You're playing it co-op

23:31

It sounds like the whole game which I'm sure does

23:33

a lot to make that it's yeah

23:35

It's really fun and being in the same room together, you

23:37

know You can just easily talk of like coming me over

23:39

here or do this like I need help I need over. Yeah

23:42

situation You're playing it under like the perfect

23:44

conditions I am surprised is

23:47

it not coming out or this is just on

23:49

PlayStation's channel. So Maybe

23:51

that's the only why it mentions ps4 and ps5.

23:53

Is it not coming to this is like a perfect

23:56

game pass Game, you

23:59

know, yeah, I don't No, I did so I haven't

24:01

followed the series super closely since Xbox 360

24:04

just very lightly and I was looking back and like

24:06

a lot Of games have come out and actually there's even

24:08

a bunch on switch Like it seems like there's been

24:10

like a whole bunch of stuff and apparently

24:13

they like I don't follow the lore of

24:15

this too closely Either but apparently there is like a long

24:17

storyline that takes place over like many years

24:20

and they rebooted it for like EDF 5 They

24:22

started over they were like we're gonna start the story fresh

24:24

earth is getting invaded again Like

24:28

this story is amazing I

24:30

will not spoil for the people out there who do

24:32

care about the story probably like people like Nick and stuff But like

24:34

there actually is a lot going on story

24:36

wise in this one and they're like doing some crazy

24:39

shit Like I don't even want to say what

24:41

because it's just more fun to experience it

24:43

But they do a couple things in this game that I've never seen done in

24:46

a game before and maybe like maybe six months

24:48

After it's out we could talk about it again, and I'll say what

24:50

that is. But like surprisingly like

24:52

the story in this game Doesn't

24:54

matter to us because we're not really playing over the story But it looks

24:56

like if you follow the lore of the EDF they're

24:59

taking it seriously and doing some fun shit with it So

25:01

I think people are gonna dig it Definitely

25:03

give it a lot of time We don't want all those angry emails from

25:06

all the people who follow Earth Defense Force

25:08

Do you know game sold like 300,000 copies

25:10

and it's like first week. It's like actually really popular

25:12

in Japan now I'm no, I'm

25:15

not surprised. No, I know it has been

25:17

I mean, there's a reason I didn't know it sold that much I didn't

25:19

think it was that popular keep making them the

25:22

I just looked by the way On the day on

25:24

d3 zone channel. It looks like it's not

25:26

coming to Xbox and Steam and epic

25:28

games and not Xbox

25:31

and Not switch

25:33

and maybe that will come later to have put

25:36

ones out or they made a different series

25:38

No, there's a few of them on switch and they seem to run

25:40

and they probably be like the you know They probably do

25:42

have a bunch of slowdown and stuff, but it seems like it's

25:45

yeah, there's like three or four of them on switch so Well

25:51

Cool. So you how far are you? We're

25:54

like not even like I said, the ps5 says

25:56

we're 40% so we got a long way to go.

25:58

All right, so Wow,

26:01

well, I'll be curious if you although Mario

26:03

wonder as we record this Mario wonder

26:06

Releases in like five hours or something and

26:08

that's also a two-player online co-op So

26:10

I think that's gonna maybe put a

26:12

dent in my EDF progress possibly

26:15

Great reviews, too Yeah, I forgot about the multiplayer

26:18

which I'm glad to see the reviews being

26:20

so good because my that was my big worry And

26:22

I've not read the reviews because I just saw the

26:25

scores. I didn't want to Read

26:28

too much about it and definitely not watch the

26:30

videos, but I that's my one

26:32

real Worry about those games

26:34

is that previously any of the games where

26:37

you could play significant? Multiplayer

26:42

at the same time seemed like it kind of Didn't

26:44

make for as great on level designs.

26:47

Yeah. Well now you can't I guess you

26:49

can't like knock each other around,

26:51

right? I think yeah, you can't you can't like

26:53

run into each other in multiplayer which

26:56

would completely change the dynamic and then

26:58

there's also the sort of like Pseudo

27:01

like Dark Souls multiplayer, right or Mario

27:03

Kart really can play with other people But just stuff

27:05

which looks cool, but that looks cool

27:07

as its own thing. But yeah, I'm wondering maybe yeah Maybe

27:10

I'll give that a shot with My

27:12

eldest. Yeah, you can play you can play

27:14

on the same switch Which is one way to

27:16

do it and I don't I don't know maybe you have to just you probably

27:19

can find to like the outer Edges of the screen, but

27:21

apparently you we can buy two copies

27:23

and then do like proper online play

27:25

together, too Which I'm interested to check

27:28

out like Hopefully because you can make

27:30

a private room so you know other people won't get in your game

27:32

and stuff It sounds like they're actually like taking the multiplayer

27:34

stuff pretty cool for yeah. Yeah.

27:37

Yeah

27:38

We

27:43

talked about Baldur's

27:44

Gate your 101 hours teen

27:47

us. It's basically taking over your life You

27:49

still charge it through any like

27:51

big significant thoughts

27:53

To update us on you went pretty in-depth

27:55

last time but but where you're at with

27:57

your feelings about the game since then

28:00

Well, I'm

28:03

more than ever confirmed

28:05

I'm going to have to play this game several times. Because

28:08

seeing all of the things that can

28:10

be different. Because I'm now,

28:13

I've just started at three.

28:16

And

28:17

I have seen now in practice. Is it a three

28:19

act game? Yes.

28:20

Is it? Okay. And

28:22

I've seen now in practice, all of the variables of, you know, I

28:24

had an encounter that had a certain outcome.

28:27

And now in the third chapter, something I did in chapter

28:29

one is

28:30

reflected in the environment of chapter three. And

28:32

I'm wondering, well, how different would this have been if I

28:34

had,

28:35

you know, killed a different person instead, or

28:38

someone that I killed, etc, etc.

28:40

I

28:43

mentioned last time, I had some self

28:45

imposed rules,

28:46

you know, no, you know,

28:48

minimal save scumming just to

28:50

save my own time. You

28:52

know, no, not allowed to redo encounters if I failed

28:55

on blah, blah, blah.

28:56

I went back on that rule,

28:58

like within hours of that recording.

29:00

Which one

29:02

specifically or all of them?

29:04

The not being allowed to

29:07

reload encounters if I don't like the outcome.

29:10

Okay, okay. There was a

29:11

there was a I'm not gonna get into specifics, but

29:13

there was a major encounter

29:15

early in Act Two,

29:17

that I failed it

29:20

in a certain way. And I could

29:22

not stomach the consequences of

29:24

that failure.

29:26

Like when the cutscene is playing, and I'm seeing what

29:28

is happening, because I didn't accomplish

29:31

my task in time, I was like, no, ma'am, this

29:33

is not a world I can continue to live in. And

29:35

I reloaded that encounter, like,

29:37

five or six. Can't let that bear can't

29:39

let that bear die, you need to have sex with the bear.

29:44

More in later parts of Act Two.

29:46

Sorry, that's my only callback that I got for our

29:48

conversation last time. Well, asterisk comic

29:51

book asterisk, the episode. Every

29:58

time you do that, you're creating multiple. You're

30:00

screwing up the multiverse

30:02

by making all these different paths.

30:05

Well, there is an art to doing that because

30:07

you can rename your save files if you want to. Like

30:10

each individual quick save, you can label them.

30:12

So if you like really

30:13

intense, you could quick save and then

30:15

do, you know, XYZ encounter

30:18

failure, and then redo it again and then

30:20

XYZ encounter success, and then have

30:22

two branching save files.

30:24

It's actually pretty smart that they let you label them

30:26

like that, especially

30:28

for a game like that.

30:29

You're allowed to read, you can just type in a custom

30:32

name for all of them. So you know, obviously

30:34

I haven't touched that at all because that

30:36

is a hole that I cannot

30:38

afford to fall into. If I do, I'm

30:40

never getting out of it.

30:43

So how much, what would you say,

30:45

estimate how much more, I mean,

30:47

you're in the third of three acts, but

30:50

like, is there a lot of end game

30:52

content and stuff? Do you know, like how far

30:55

are you through and are you planning to like immediately

30:57

do a replay or do you think

30:59

you will give it some time

31:02

and come back to it?

31:03

I get the impression there's still a lot

31:06

left to go

31:07

because each of

31:10

the origin characters they're

31:12

called, each of the kind of like fleshed out characters

31:14

has a personal quest.

31:16

And

31:18

only one of those personal quests, I

31:20

have kind of air quotes resolved at

31:22

this point. So there's still a lot to

31:24

go for each of the people that I'm traveling

31:26

with.

31:27

But also in the main story, I

31:30

have two major goals

31:32

to accomplish that seem like

31:35

impossible

31:36

in scale. So

31:37

I have no idea how I'm supposed to accomplish

31:39

this. Scale because they're difficult or because of the

31:41

time it would take to do whatever the steps are

31:43

needed to do it? Or can you like elaborate without

31:45

spoiling that or?

31:48

Well, I

31:51

guess not. Can I?

31:52

It's okay. In case of

31:54

you know, I've got two big baddies

31:56

that I need to get and I don't even know

31:59

where they are. or how to access them

32:01

or what tools they have at their disposal

32:03

to kick my ass before I kick theirs. And

32:06

based on how much time it took

32:09

for me to just infiltrate a

32:11

very basic goblin camp in Act 1,

32:13

I'm kind

32:16

of intimidated at what's going to be involved

32:18

in doing these things in Act 3.

32:21

You finished Bloodborne, you'll be fine. I'm very proud

32:23

of it though. Yeah, seriously.

32:24

But for the

32:26

replaying right away, I feel

32:28

like I kind of want to while I'm still

32:30

really, really into it and still quite

32:33

familiar with the mechanics and everything.

32:35

But I was thinking about this earlier today. I

32:37

do get the sense this is going to end up being kind

32:40

of a comfort game for me.

32:42

When I have a cozy weekend with

32:44

nothing to do two years from now, I'm probably

32:46

going to be like, damn, I could really go

32:49

for some Baldur's Gate right now and

32:51

just start up a completely different

32:53

character and a completely different class and

32:55

play it

32:57

in a completely different way than I had before because the options

33:00

are

33:01

baffling for how much

33:02

variety there really is. So

33:05

that category that you would also put

33:07

in games like, what was

33:10

it, Shadowgate 64? Ocarina

33:12

of Time. What

33:16

are your other go-to?

33:17

Firefox

33:21

Adventures is a big one.

33:22

Oh, wow. Wow. Damn,

33:24

I just became best friends. I remember you talking about it before,

33:27

but I didn't remember it.

33:28

Yeah, I have cozy memories of renting

33:30

a GameCube and that one on a

33:32

great 8. I was playing it for

33:34

a whole week and that was really fun. Legend

33:36

of Dragoon is one of them.

33:38

Okay, I do remember that one. You've

33:41

got some Super Mario World. Interesting ones.

33:43

Nice.

33:44

Okay. Lion King SNES.

33:46

Classic.

33:49

Speaking of classic, Gabe, you're playing

33:51

an older game these days.

33:57

Inspired by the mobile Monster

33:59

Hunter? Yeah, so

34:02

I kind of I kind of burned out on the

34:04

mobile aspects of Monster Hunter now

34:06

and I ready Yeah, dude, I'm so

34:09

tired of like well. There's no monster. There's

34:11

no Legiana in my route to

34:13

work, so I'm just like

34:15

I'm screwed and now I can't progress I'm

34:18

gonna pay money You

34:23

need to live not in the middle of nowhere No,

34:26

that's not happening or like you have to get up and go

34:28

like there was a pink rathian weekend

34:31

And none of the gear was useful for my build

34:34

and I was like well That was a big money pink rathian.

34:36

Did you kill four or five? Okay? I killed

34:38

four and I was that was hard they were there were not that

34:40

many of them around even in the main areas

34:42

So yeah So I was like you know what

34:44

game is good and lets me hunt the monster

34:47

I want whenever I want to as many times

34:49

as I want because I lack self-control any

34:52

other monster hunter game So

34:56

I picked up Sun break and I'm

34:58

deep in the middle of that And

35:01

then break

35:01

like the like sort of G version of

35:03

rise Okay master is

35:05

what they started with world the G rank is now

35:07

called master rank with with world, huh?

35:11

I should know that we worked on world anyway. That is

35:13

good that they got rid of the G rank I

35:15

was always such a weird arbitrary thing,

35:17

but it was so set in stone for so long.

35:19

It just became Second nature

35:21

where the fuck did that come from by the way?

35:23

It's not even like

35:25

That's plus or anything. It's just like G

35:28

rank I see somebody accidentally monsters

35:30

type the wrong letter in the first one and then I'd

35:33

like well now we're stuck with it So

35:35

it must have come from somewhere Yeah,

35:38

so Started

35:40

the we need guy Jane Hunter on the back on the show

35:42

to answer this burning question.

35:45

Yeah. Yes Gabe Okay, so you picked it up for

35:48

for your switch. Yep. Yeah

35:51

It was also on sale on PC. So

35:53

I picked that up the like bone at the double

35:55

path Wow, I'll have off because

35:57

here's the thing. Here's the thing I hate about the Monster Hunter

35:59

series It's trying to get that one item

36:01

you really really really really really really need

36:03

and then it never comes over the whole weekend

36:07

So I bought that as a backup just in case I decide

36:09

to you know mod wink wink the

36:12

PC game Oh, you could do

36:14

that. I was like wait, so you want to decrease

36:17

your odds by half that no doing no

36:19

There's some wonder so I'm playing

36:21

on the switch because I want to go through the loop loop

36:24

and gear hunting and all that stuff But like if

36:26

I wanted to experiment and play with different

36:28

play styles and stuff They're like hey download

36:30

this mod and it puts every single item in

36:32

your bank And then

36:35

you can just that's not

36:37

good cheating I'm playing

36:39

it on the switch version first, so I've earned

36:41

the right to cheat mr. John There's

36:44

so many games to play in the way. Why would you

36:46

know play the switch version then?

36:50

Pretend that you got whatever like pearl

36:52

you needed to complete your armor set

36:54

on the PC version Go into the PC version

36:56

and what dress up and look at your character and be like,

36:58

okay So I'm gonna go back to

37:00

the switch version It's like I

37:03

play like bowgun on the switch version

37:05

monster hunters actually a decent third-person shooter when

37:07

you when you play it like that But it's like you know I

37:09

kind of want to experiment with longsword or maybe

37:12

I want to jump into hammer You know what I don't

37:14

want to do hunt all those monsters again,

37:16

and then go on another 3% chance drop thing

37:19

I'm just gonna go on PC and then outfit

37:22

a hammer user and then start playing with that Oh

37:26

And then you go back to the switch version and be like,

37:28

okay now that I know I enjoy that I'm

37:30

got that out of my System. Yeah, yeah a

37:32

real quote-unquote real character my valid

37:35

my valid game Yeah, and here's

37:38

the thing. I actually really wanted to bring up Weirdo

37:41

game that I can't hold that Okay

37:44

before before we change topic.

37:46

I still have a thing. I need to say but go ahead

37:48

How do you know that

37:50

this gear exists for you to try?

37:53

Like is does the game tell you that there's this

37:56

thing out there or are you like looking at

37:58

a no wiki? Are

37:59

you looking?

37:59

looking at

38:00

outside resource and

38:02

then deciding you want it. So it's usually

38:05

like, okay, outside resources, what

38:07

skills does a weapon need to perform

38:10

at its best versus what is sort of a quality

38:12

of life versus what is useless and don't get?

38:14

It sounds like this problem would be

38:16

resolved by not looking up what

38:18

gear exists, but finding what

38:21

you find and having fun with it.

38:22

Nah. Dave is a unique

38:25

fellow and he's playing his games in a unique way

38:27

that is fascinating. I

38:34

read...

38:35

That would prevent a lot of heartache.

38:36

I went to elitistjerks.com

38:39

when I played World of Warcraft. That's

38:41

all you need to know for those people. I don't

38:43

know what that means, but... Min-maxing.

38:46

The big thing that surprised me with

38:48

Sunbreak is, and I'm pretty

38:50

sure this is the first time, you guys are the historians,

38:52

so you know better than me, they have NPC

38:55

companions on the hunts now.

38:57

Like straight up. I

39:00

want to say some PC... I

39:02

want to say a PC version

39:05

circa 2004... Frontier? 2.4 introduced

39:08

first. How is it? Yeah, I never played.

39:12

No, I actually, I don't remember now if

39:14

they were felines or if they were

39:17

actual other people. They might've

39:19

just had that whole system. It

39:21

is straight up play with the quest maiden

39:23

from the base

39:26

game. Play with the ninja

39:28

dune. Finally the dream comes true. Yes. Partying

39:31

up with the quest maiden and actually kicking

39:33

monster butts. They're better than most players

39:36

online.

39:39

That's all I'll say. You

39:41

gotta play with Japanese players, man. I

39:44

can't control that.

39:46

Japanese player knows what the F they are

39:48

doing. Well you can, you kinda can.

39:51

If you play at any time in the evening,

39:53

you're going to

39:55

be pretty safe. Instead of

39:57

playing... Does anyone from your work listen to this podcast?

39:59

Okay,

40:02

well I won't go I won't elaborate on that.

40:11

Just kidding fellow co-workers

40:13

of games who hopefully didn't get fired and

40:15

now sit around eating toast

40:18

on the floor for podcast. So

40:23

Gabe anything else that you've been

40:26

playing? I played the PS5

40:28

version of Honkai Star Rail for like 25 minutes

40:31

and when I'm done with this game I think. Wait

40:33

really? Like forever? So

40:36

basically what happens is I ran out of main

40:38

story stuff and once you run out of main story

40:40

stuff they're like do

40:43

other things which is effectively grind

40:45

your account level. You could use your

40:47

existing account and just pick up where you left off

40:49

on PS5. That's handy. So the

40:52

thing is just that like this

40:55

is gonna sound crazy. You don't pull enough. I

40:57

don't play the gotcha part of the gotcha game

40:59

enough. They're so stingy

41:02

with the currency to spin

41:05

and stingy. Stingy. Yeah

41:07

people don't like you Steve. Stingy.

41:10

But you have

41:12

to pay for that right? Like that's what they want

41:14

you to do is to pay for extra pull. There's

41:17

no yes in that and

41:19

it's stupid. Like you have to give

41:21

them let's just say $5 for $300 currency

41:23

up front and

41:26

then you get 90 a day and you check in every

41:28

day. It costs $1600 for

41:31

one full pull.

41:35

So that

41:37

is one yank of 10 which is

41:39

the only way. You only do pulls of 10. You

41:42

only do pulls of 10.

41:43

Because you get guaranteed

41:46

stuff. So it was just like okay I'm not pulling.

41:48

I'm not engaging with the gotcha enough. And

41:52

what's left here is just not

41:54

doing it for me. So like I'll just I'll put

41:56

it aside. I'll come back. You're hanging up the rails. We'll

42:00

see for the best. Yeah. Yeah,

42:03

I didn't get too deep into they got like 40 bucks

42:05

out of me So, you know, I could have been

42:07

way much

42:08

How much time do you think you put into it total?

42:10

I would say all of September

42:15

Like that was the game I like I

42:18

need to do Hong Kai star rail because

42:20

this is what I'm doing now You're

42:23

pretty heavy into it. I got you put on our hours

42:25

Yeah, basically and then that I

42:27

ran out of stuff. I was willing to engage with Well,

42:31

you got more than your totally yeah,

42:33

yeah, totally no no complaints

42:35

here about like anything like that Speaking

42:39

of peak efficiency then should we head

42:41

into the news as part of their tight? Thank 60.

42:44

Okay come up with some kind of

42:47

some kind of Trademarkable we need

42:49

to type 60 team brand way of saying

42:51

that hey

42:52

So I can then put

42:54

it on I think you want to do a live He's looking longingly

42:57

at his board and colorful but well cuz then

42:59

I could put it on the pillow for buttons And then no one

43:01

has to say it. So is that here?

43:12

I Got it right.

43:14

It's getting a little better pretty little too fast I'm

43:16

chill The

43:19

math is not satisfied It's

43:22

not paced perfectly, but you'd see better

43:25

Fine, right. I'm doing the news. That's right. No,

43:27

not not mark. Yes, you're doing news.

43:30

Yeah guys

43:32

It's over

43:34

How about that news? It's finally over.

43:36

What is over Microsoft has completed

43:39

its acquisition. Oh

43:40

Yes, so

43:42

you owe me a fake. I

43:43

don't

43:44

I Specifically remembered the

43:47

terms of that Yeah, what were

43:49

the terms of the state bet now that

43:52

we do need to finally Bobby

43:54

Kotick would be out of Activision by January

43:57

this year or E3 this year or something like that That's

44:00

like Relax

44:03

yours anything We

44:06

have a pin in the slack we could get the exact dates Don't

44:08

worry John cuz you got to give that steak you owe

44:10

me to mark anyway cuz now I owe him a

44:12

steak Cuz there's like no

44:15

chance the Dark Soul or Dark Souls the Elden ring

44:17

to help you come down this year Oh, yeah,

44:19

oh, I'm so glad

44:22

that you remembered that oh my

44:24

god. I've got so many steaks coming my way I

44:26

thought I was good On

44:28

the state we need to have our steak off pretty I know we

44:31

do doesn't somebody do you know Graham mistake

44:33

too for the poking?

44:36

sales numbers Really

44:39

somebody and verify that somebody to go back and dig

44:41

that up And is it was

44:43

verified it was I think it was a million led

44:45

you the number but it was definitely verified

44:49

I Didn't keep track of it needs to be a

44:52

steak bet Tracker maybe

44:54

we can get some fan of the show to do that and

44:56

make sure what's wrong with the black I

44:58

got we started. I only lost one I

45:01

think I've lost one game related steak,

45:03

but ever in my life, and I

45:06

I wish I could remember what it was but anyway

45:08

Yes, so big news. Yeah,

45:11

yeah in Europe. They are

45:13

having Ubisoft right do their cloud Yeah,

45:15

they're Ubisoft licensing thing worked

45:18

not licensing. They like literally sold the rights

45:21

Which is different so Microsoft

45:25

is is They are

45:27

one entity now and a follow-up article

45:29

of Bobby Kotick Kotick

45:32

is definitely staying on till it's through the end

45:34

of the year As

45:36

part of the transition speculation on like

45:38

okay is it a lame duck situation is he actually

45:41

going but he is officially part of a BK

45:43

slash Microsoft until the end of this year

45:46

Which makes John whatever four years late

45:49

or pretty sure it's just what I didn't say which year

45:51

I just said you know a

45:53

year yeah And

45:56

leaving right he's out he's out as of January

45:59

we suspect We suspect he

46:01

will be on the way out at the very least the way

46:03

they were to that article of internal stuff

46:05

wasn't there that got reported that it

46:07

would be that Yeah, that

46:09

he would be getting out but yep, but

46:12

yeah, this is big This is this

46:15

is a big deal and it's finally

46:17

I think it was pretty inevitable

46:20

and like I said, I never

46:22

bought any of the any

46:25

government's real arguments against

46:27

it as kind of yeah to see

46:29

knowing the situation that Xbox sales

46:32

are at even when they're doing you know, good

46:34

stuff and good stuff with their hardware and

46:38

Yeah, game pass is great for a lot of things and

46:41

I have it I think remains to be seen with the long-term

46:44

Ramification I have this kind of stuff fully expect

46:46

game has to go up a dollar or two in

46:48

price within the next couple of them I

46:51

would say by the end of next year They'll probably be

46:53

another price raise with the ABK purchase probably should

46:55

if you're gonna get Call of Duty free every

46:57

year Or some crazy

46:59

million number of people are

47:01

gonna be getting it

47:03

Much less with inflation than whatever else.

47:06

But yeah, it remains to be seen if they're gonna pull

47:08

like a Netflix

47:10

Well, yeah, we would have to go we've talked Nauseam

47:14

we don't have to

47:15

talk about that. What else is what else is in the news? Ah,

47:17

so We sort of mentioned it earlier

47:20

But the PS slimmers out

47:22

pre-orders are out super hard to get PSP super

47:24

hard to get especially in Japan and

47:28

then the world

47:30

they cloud streamers the PS premium the cloud

47:32

streaming services started here in Japan

47:36

it starts next week or in two weeks in America

47:38

I brought this up because I actually just let my PS plus

47:41

essential laps because

47:43

I just looked at my like Profile

47:46

of the games you've been playing this year and I was

47:48

like none of these are multiplayer games Which

47:50

one is that like that? I think this is just

47:53

now that it's been out long enough I can safely say

47:55

the naming of the PS plus tiers is

47:57

not good because I can never tell which one is

47:59

the good Like the most expensive

48:01

one is ps premium ps plus

48:03

premium. Okay, you have that one.

48:05

I the entry level is Essential.

48:08

Okay. I forget what the middle one is called

48:11

extra sure. Mmm So

48:13

I was just like, okay They

48:16

raised the price everywhere including here in Japan

48:18

None of the games I have been playing for the past 12 months.

48:22

You're not gonna play cloud stuff though Are you do

48:24

you care who cares about cloud? I don't understand

48:26

who?

48:27

Come on

48:28

This is just basically stadia

48:30

writing work to be right. It's like being you I mean

48:32

more or less, right? Yeah,

48:34

I just renewed my PlayStation

48:36

Plus after not having it for several months

48:39

For what's probably because of Baldur's Gate, right?

48:42

Exactly, but not because of multiplayer

48:45

Because I was lying in bed one night and suddenly had

48:47

an intrusive thought of what if my ps5

48:49

dies tomorrow and I lose my save File

48:51

sure, so that's why you got interesting

48:54

For the backup save. Yeah, but

48:57

I went for I was looking at the prices and I went

48:59

for the not essential

49:01

the one tier up

49:03

middle

49:05

In there that I'll probably want to play because

49:08

the only reason I played blood-borne

49:10

For

49:10

the first time was because I could play it for no money

49:13

There is some

49:15

value there sure I think the

49:17

Demon Souls remake was one of the games you can play.

49:19

That's

49:19

a good Yeah, no, I think there's value.

49:22

I'm not saying there's not value for sure I'm just saying

49:24

it's confusingly named and I can't tell what

49:26

the difference is between any of the different tiers

49:28

But um, but I also but the more importantly

49:30

though, I just don't I'm kind of serious

49:33

I'm kind of joking, but I'm kind of serious like I don't

49:36

Is there actually like a big demand for the

49:38

cloud stuff serious question? Like I'm

49:40

the wrong person to talk to about that. I like I

49:43

mean you can look at Microsoft's own filings

49:45

about Of course were incentivized

49:48

to downplay

49:50

Cloud gaming

49:52

themselves, right but you

49:54

know numbers wise it's not

49:57

Significant. Yeah, I think everybody sees it Where

50:00

it becomes a big deal, I

50:02

think, is when you buy a new

50:04

TV and does it come with

50:07

de facto and Xbox, the

50:09

Netflix, right? The integration.

50:12

Right. The Xbox app. When that starts happening

50:14

with a PS5 or

50:17

an Xbox, or an, that's when

50:19

it becomes, I think, significant.

50:22

And just, you don't have to think about the

50:24

game, you don't have to wait for it to download, you don't have

50:26

to think about, it's just like, yeah.

50:29

I feel like, but also, like your internet

50:32

has to be amazing, and also, like you have to

50:34

be okay with not having, like

50:36

you can't play Street Fighter, you're gonna have to play like,

50:38

you know,

50:39

backgammon or something. I don't know, it's not for like,

50:42

I feel like it's not for people who

50:44

actually like games. It's for like your

50:46

grandma. Oh no, you could probably play a game

50:48

like Baldur's Gate. Like that's not, That's true.

50:51

Yeah, there are certainly certain games that it

50:54

would play better than others, that's for sure. But just, yeah,

50:56

I don't know. Like you wouldn't play a Bloodborne

50:59

or a Lies of P or anything like that. No, or Street Fighter 6

51:01

or anything like that, yeah. Not

51:04

yet, Mario will get better. Maybe.

51:07

Going off to Mario, Mario

51:10

Wonder, Mark earlier mentioned

51:12

reviews coming out, Famitsu gave it a 36. That's

51:17

pretty darn good. And they actually did, Nintendo

51:19

did something I did not expect them to do. They

51:23

have officially announced the voice actor of

51:25

Mario and Luigi. Yeah. Kevin

51:28

Afghani from other things

51:30

like Genshin Impact.

51:34

He's the new Mario. I honestly thought they

51:36

were gonna keep it a corporate secret of

51:38

like Tom Jones. Well,

51:40

they got out, right? Somehow there

51:42

was like a listing somewhere

51:44

or something. There was some

51:47

inaccurate deductions. I'm like,

51:49

okay, we know the voices that are credited and we

51:51

know the two projects. So they narrowed it down to the

51:53

wrong two people, they being, I don't know, Reddit

51:55

or whatever, Discord, Rando, server.

51:58

And both are wrong. Is my... understanding

52:00

so but yeah Mario

52:03

good for him good for him it's I

52:05

wonder if he's going to get the sort of

52:07

like like a Disney

52:09

does mark does mark does Nintendo really do do

52:11

like Disney style contracts or is like no

52:13

you're only a Disney or a Nintendo

52:16

voice actor for X amount of time

52:18

or anything like that I don't think you can I don't think anybody

52:20

would do that unless like there's

52:23

what's the value in that for Nintendo they don't need

52:25

to do that I don't think I

52:27

mean it is weird for me to see them and that

52:30

sort of like well he went public but sort of like be

52:33

they have the opportunity to sort of control

52:36

Mario's voice at this point

52:39

yeah but if you're that guy Kevin he says his name is

52:41

Kevin like yeah he's a young guy his career

52:43

is like you know not that he's like a new but he's relatively

52:46

in inexperienced compared to someone like say Charles

52:48

Martin a whatever like his career is about to take off like why

52:50

would he like limit himself unless they're gonna pay him billions

52:53

of dollars which they're not gonna do I mean

52:55

I think it's in their best interest to keep it open and be

52:58

able to do whatever they want so I don't I think especially

53:00

if they're otherwise why not continue to use Charles

53:02

or why not make an AI thing out of Charles you know

53:04

with Charles blessing or whatever like so I would

53:08

have put Nintendo I didn't know he's good I just hope it

53:10

doesn't distract from me and which I'll find out very

53:12

I if they used AI it's too early

53:15

like people would have rioted in the streets

53:17

I feel like even if even

53:19

with Charles Martin is

53:21

blessing I

53:22

think it's just too early for that I do

53:25

think whatever this guy got I bet it's

53:27

a

53:28

I bet it's a crazy good bespoke contract

53:31

and like

53:33

there

53:33

must be something in there where like he needs

53:35

to be available you know

53:37

like for not not

53:40

not exclusive maybe but they're much sure

53:42

anything about like they reserve they're

53:44

probably like on a retainer model or something

53:46

who knows what it is but I bet it is

53:49

significant and yeah I think it's not

53:51

by accident that they got a young person because

53:53

they're like we don't want to be having this conversation

53:55

every five years

53:58

right

53:59

well as long as they don't change the voice too much.

54:02

And the same thing with Toad.

54:04

They can't ever change Toad's voice, because Toad's voice

54:06

is amazing. We were talking about this earlier. Have

54:09

you guys heard the AI songs from Toad?

54:11

No. Talk about this, because I think

54:13

it's a really interesting thing that I did not

54:15

know about. It's the thing that's going on on TikTok

54:18

now, is people using this AI

54:20

app to have different people sing

54:22

songs. Oh,

54:24

god. Less than 30 seconds, please. Even

54:28

more like the music

54:29

we sing. It's like the song

54:32

I love making you cry. And

54:34

you're one. So

54:36

you can imagine. I

54:39

have to cut this. 30 seconds. Come on. All

54:41

right. Yeah, there's like a ton of those. I'm

54:43

not big on AI in any context, but I

54:45

feel like that might be one of. Yeah.

54:48

And I know hard what I did. My favorite use of

54:50

AI to date is this. Toad's

54:52

singing songs. And there's some good songs

54:55

too, like heavy metal and stuff to where

54:57

just that voice, AI using it

54:59

to sing. They're like a holy diver. That'd be amazing.

55:03

Yeah, I do think one last thing on this

55:06

point that I just thought of that I think is

55:08

interesting is I feel like the Super

55:10

Mario movie opened

55:13

the door. I feel like there's no way they could have done this

55:15

without having had

55:17

Chris Pratt or somebody else doing the

55:19

voice for the movie first. Yeah. Going

55:22

through the shit storm. And then be like,

55:24

OK,

55:25

now the door is open. Let's do the

55:27

thing. I wonder if that was actually thought

55:30

through and planned or just a happy accident.

55:32

But whatever it is now, it's hard to imagine

55:34

it

55:35

having gone any other way. I

55:37

could see Universal. His game had to have been in development

55:39

for a long time. But then again, so

55:41

was the movie. That's true. I could

55:43

see Universal being able to

55:45

pose the question and make it easier

55:47

for Nintendo to move on or even just

55:52

straight up saying, I can't be so and so. It

55:54

has to be a star. Well,

55:57

I think that was Nintendo's choice, probably.

56:00

I mean that's the smart move to make

56:02

like I mean it you know and also like it sure

56:04

was never a question. Yeah Yeah

56:09

You know stars at Nintendo This

56:11

also popped up on the 8 for Twitter feed But

56:15

Sakurai teased a a co-op project

56:17

with a currently unnamed youtuber

56:19

Maybe there was a follow-up article, but I

56:21

bring it up because keep

56:22

your late. Thank

56:24

you Actually,

56:26

we didn't talk about John's name Is

56:28

you know you want to fill people

56:30

in on why you said the retro game master

56:32

master? Yeah,

56:35

yeah, because we're working. What are the things we're doing

56:37

as the people who translate? Sakurai's

56:41

YouTube channel is where we translated

56:43

the these crossover episodes which are almost done

56:46

Gabe will be done by the time you're listening to this Look, I just

56:48

wrote down the headline dated October like 9th

56:52

It's fast the fast the world of YouTube is fast moving

56:55

Gabe And yeah, it was awesome because

56:57

it's a three episode crossover

56:59

with game Center CX also

57:02

known as retro game master And

57:05

so we were able to translate the

57:09

it's a crossover So there's like episodes on Sakurai's

57:11

YouTube channel in this episodes on the game Center CX channel

57:14

the Sakurai side of things We got to translate those

57:16

into English And so it was the first time

57:18

any kind of official like game Center CX stuff

57:20

was put in English in like it over a decade apparently

57:22

people were saying but um Yeah,

57:24

super cool opportunity really fun to

57:26

they play through a bunch of they play through 25. I think Arcade

57:31

games over or 25. Yeah, 25

57:33

arcade games over like a 10-year span from like 1978 to 1987

57:39

And they're basically playing it kind of against each other

57:42

It's really fun. It's like it's fun. It's interesting

57:45

like the games are actually cool. It's cool to just see

57:47

these old games Is it kind of

57:49

like have you guys ever watched like? You

57:52

guys don't watch soccer. Have you guys ever seen like a professional

57:55

basketball player? Watch a basketball

57:57

game and not like meditate it on your lap. Oh my god.

57:59

This is so awesome insightful look at that game effectively

58:01

like the basketball version

58:03

of a left

58:06

player though and like you know I know it talks about

58:09

it I already know is the I know Katja

58:11

is the like the host of Game Center CX

58:13

but I mean he is like one of the first ever people

58:15

who did this who did like play games and talk about it

58:18

while he's playing games before YouTube

58:20

was a thing before Niko Niko was a thing I don't

58:22

know that he's necessarily the first ever but he's definitely in

58:24

the very early yeah history

58:27

of talking about that he's

58:29

the godfather of my play

58:31

it definitely check it out it's

58:33

definitely it's totally worth your time it's really

58:35

well done you guys did great

58:37

job on the on the localization

58:39

but it's just really well put together great

58:42

graphics the thing that I really appreciate is there's

58:45

as somebody was alive and playing those games

58:47

at the in the arcade at the time that they're talking about

58:49

like there's really good bits

58:51

of trivia

58:53

and stuff that I

58:55

had either never known or forgot about

58:57

like the you

58:58

know number of shots in Space

59:01

Invaders giving determining the bonus

59:03

if you hit the UFO with them at certain times

59:05

and just there's something like per game

59:08

almost yeah early games really

59:11

great about like kind of casually introducing

59:13

like historical and sort of trivia elements

59:16

and like trivia peoples about the different games like I didn't

59:18

even know and I played Donkey

59:20

Kong for years like literally since it was new

59:22

and I didn't know that you were safe on the on

59:24

the ladder I'd never I thought that like

59:27

if you could still get hit if you're on a ladder

59:29

but he explained that if you're on the ladder you

59:31

won't on the yeah

59:33

if you're if you're on the ladder basically you're

59:36

not a barrel is not gonna come down that ladder I did not

59:38

know that so oh I said your hand

59:40

had to be I cuz I didn't know that either

59:42

but I thought your hand had I think you had to be in a certain position

59:45

on the ladder for it for it to happen

59:47

I said you had to be like at the top with your hand

59:49

up on the

59:52

maybe I you know what it could be

59:54

I don't know what whatever it was it was something that I did

59:56

not know and I never like actually tried

59:58

that before so I haven't played This came out

1:00:00

so I can't tell you exactly what it turned out to be but

1:00:02

it's pretty cool It moves fast

1:00:05

and there's just a little bite-sized things that each game

1:00:07

and each episode is what like 10 or 15 minutes?

1:00:10

25 and really awesome. I am there's like

1:00:12

three of them They're 25 minutes each and the last as

1:00:15

we're recording this the last one's about to

1:00:17

premiere in like an hour or two So it'll have been

1:00:19

it'll be done by the time you hear this But you

1:00:21

can go back and watch it on on Sakurai's

1:00:23

YouTube channel and over on the game Center CX

1:00:25

channel This is only in Japanese, but the first two

1:00:27

episodes of I think like a five episode

1:00:30

thing on their side are going on And they

1:00:32

played through they did some

1:00:34

game Center CX style the classic like I don't know

1:00:36

plays a old game And they're playing

1:00:38

through smash 64 Which

1:00:41

is cool and and Sakurai's son

1:00:44

is acting as his ad so basically like

1:00:46

when he's in trouble He called Sakurai in to like

1:00:48

help him and stuff. It's been really fun to watch so

1:00:51

I have not watched that side

1:00:53

of it yet. That's cool to hear. Yeah. Yeah,

1:00:55

super cool Do

1:00:59

we have any Silent Hill Fanatics here

1:01:01

I forget I don't remember. I know you like Resident

1:01:03

Evil mark. I don't know. All

1:01:06

right, there's a thing coming I think we're all fans static

1:01:10

Silent Hill Ascension the

1:01:13

Gemvid entertainment and Konami

1:01:16

entertainment thing

1:01:18

Is coming October 31st

1:01:21

on Halloween? Yeah,

1:01:26

I was actually just checking last minute for

1:01:28

any like stories I missed so

1:01:30

this comes from venture be here But

1:01:34

yeah Silent Hill series Ascension

1:01:36

debuts in Halloween. I'm trying to find where it will be

1:01:38

debuting on

1:01:40

Sony owned

1:01:41

Because it can

1:01:43

be streamed on Android and iOS devices

1:01:45

or through the series website ascension.com Okay,

1:01:51

I'm like why why don't I see on Netflix

1:01:53

or Hulu because they're doing it themselves

1:01:55

gotcha got ya

1:02:00

It worries me a little bit actually that this is

1:02:03

I'm sorry. It will be available on the

1:02:06

Bravia core app for Sony

1:02:08

Bravia TVs maybe

1:02:10

that's Bravia TVs. Maybe these are typo here

1:02:13

and Bravia core for Xperia

1:02:15

app on select Xperia smartphones

1:02:20

So I still can't tell and maybe I should know

1:02:22

by how it's been described But I I

1:02:24

did watch the whole announced initial

1:02:26

announced thing and couldn't tell either Is

1:02:29

this just like

1:02:30

a thing like that Netflix? interactive

1:02:32

show like it

1:02:35

You can like go outside and kill the zombie

1:02:37

or do you stay inside and board up the

1:02:39

window like choose a or B

1:02:41

like

1:02:43

Dancing passing. It's

1:02:44

a good. It's a good question That's

1:02:47

coming out Real quick

1:02:49

just to close the loop Uh

1:02:52

JR himself. Mr. John Riccatello has

1:02:54

stepped down from Dunity just to close that

1:02:56

when we brought it up last week No real surprise

1:02:59

there. He wasn't the sole reason for it. Mark

1:03:01

flew himself Straight to his office

1:03:04

and said if you want humanity to You

1:03:07

better get rid of Riccatello. You're making me look

1:03:10

bad here. JR. You got to take the fall.

1:03:12

You're making me look bad No, I you know that

1:03:14

whole thing was yeah, I think a little a little

1:03:17

There was definitely something to it a little a little

1:03:20

overblown and apparently he's retiring

1:03:22

So yeah retiring. We'll see air quotes.

1:03:25

Yeah, we'll see Well, I hear Activision

1:03:28

has a spot opening up and maybe maybe Rick

1:03:30

codick becomes the new CEO of

1:03:32

unity

1:03:33

So topical just like the Daily Show

1:03:36

but with video games. Oh, I like it. Um

1:03:40

City skyline 2 which is a game.

1:03:42

I'm genuinely looking forward to it's gonna launch performance

1:03:45

Did you just beware John's like tapping his

1:03:47

watch? I know I see yeah This is

1:03:49

we've gotten into the game was in charge of

1:03:51

gathering news section of news No,

1:03:54

this is me being considered because finally this

1:03:56

was announced. I think yesterday or two days ago I'm sure

1:03:59

John's already on the wait list

1:03:59

The analog 3d

1:04:02

yeah,

1:04:02

they didn't take pre-orders yet But

1:04:05

I certainly will be getting my hands on one of them beautiful

1:04:09

N64 fully program Programmable

1:04:12

Gateway array is I think what that stands

1:04:14

for for N64 native

1:04:17

4k output the ability to tinker with graphics

1:04:19

options and all that stuff can will be able to play

1:04:21

the cards because it's FPGA

1:04:24

system they kind of buried the lead with it with that though because

1:04:26

the real news that they announced that day is that the Duo

1:04:28

the analog duo is shipping this year which means

1:04:31

in the next two months because there's not much of this

1:04:33

year left Which one is that I forgot

1:04:35

the turbo graphics version basically of the analog

1:04:37

which I'm very excited about so yes

1:04:40

coming soon What was the Saturn

1:04:42

controls we get a retro stuff those? Officially

1:04:45

licensed Saturn controllers that looked really

1:04:47

nice actually Yeah, that

1:04:49

right. Yep. Yep. Got announced

1:04:51

Sega licensed like

1:04:53

just basically have analog sticks

1:04:55

like they're like the form factor and

1:04:59

Evocative of that, but they're modern

1:05:02

right? It looks like what the Saturn

1:05:04

like you remember there was there was that awful

1:05:07

Saturn 3d stick Like

1:05:10

round controller like a straw City

1:05:12

but like it looks like if somebody who was good

1:05:14

at making controllers would have like evolved the original

1:05:16

Saturn controller into an analog controller Rather

1:05:19

than whatever that thing was so yeah, it's pretty exciting And

1:05:21

like the design of the white the Japanese white

1:05:24

Saturn not the ugly black they have

1:05:26

both they have the white and the black Well,

1:05:30

the form factor is still like the Japanese one too,

1:05:32

but I don't I mean the US Saturn controller

1:05:34

like I It felt good. It

1:05:36

just didn't work. Well, I felt like it like the deep

1:05:39

kind of sucked But like it didn't it was comfortable. I

1:05:42

didn't like the shiny and I like the

1:05:44

shininess I

1:05:47

like the I like the great. I don't like the shiny

1:05:49

black. I like the great initial

1:05:51

one was okay But that really that the

1:05:53

white one like them. Yeah, yeah, speaking

1:05:56

of shininess You

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can follow us on 8-4

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Our second

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home giant bomb calm. We

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got a thread on resetter. Feel free to leave

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a comment. Leave five star reviews

1:06:08

on Apple podcast. John, don't dirty

1:06:11

the floor. I saw that. I'll get it. I saw that.

1:06:13

Drop the crumb. Leave

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five star reviews. I want to guess Mark. Wait,

1:06:18

speaking of that, I want to give a shout out to you.

1:06:20

Sure. What you should be eating right now are stoop waffles.

1:06:23

Courtesy. Yeah, very good. Friends of the show.

1:06:26

I've got them that that's why, unfortunately

1:06:28

I'm remote this time. So you can't, you

1:06:30

can't enjoy them. And I will say, I'll just

1:06:32

tease this.

1:06:34

A friend of the show, super friend, super fan,

1:06:36

uh, Steve Pharma, who famously

1:06:39

created our eight, four official

1:06:41

Amiibo. That is only one of, but it is

1:06:43

official because we deemed it. So, uh,

1:06:46

still in the room to

1:06:48

Japan bearing gifts. Uh,

1:06:50

first post COVID trip. Uh,

1:06:52

it's awesome to see him. Thanks again for,

1:06:54

for swinging by. And, uh, he did

1:06:56

come bearing gifts as he is wanting

1:06:59

to do.

1:07:00

In addition to stoop waffles, there will be something

1:07:03

that we will be, uh,

1:07:04

taste testing live on

1:07:07

the podcast, live tape, uh,

1:07:10

next recording. So we're

1:07:12

all together and nobody has COVID et

1:07:14

cetera, et cetera. Disclaimers. But, um, but

1:07:17

yes, look, look forward to that. Sorry,

1:07:21

Gabe, go continue with the feel. Yeah.

1:07:23

I don't know. Uh, where was I? Can

1:07:26

we five-star views? I'm fine. Thanks

1:07:30

Mark. You got my back. I really appreciate

1:07:33

it. That's where

1:07:35

you were. Nope. I was, I was past that

1:07:37

Mark. I was, I was past that. It's okay. Here

1:07:39

we go. You'd already said that part. I just want to make

1:07:41

sure you, yeah, no. Okay. Yeah, no. Okay.

1:07:43

We got already locked in. Boom.

1:07:46

And you can leave five-star reviews on Apple

1:07:49

podcast. You said

1:07:51

iTunes. I don't think I said

1:07:53

iTunes. I think you started with iTunes. See,

1:07:55

that was the thing. Uh, Dermot kept

1:07:57

saying well after iTunes went away

1:07:59

and I was. like now under my reign

1:08:01

of doing the editing, it will

1:08:03

be called Apple Podcasts appropriately where you

1:08:05

will leave five star reviews as well as with Spotify

1:08:08

or wherever you prefer to listen to the show. Definitely said

1:08:10

Giant Bomb though. I definitely said Giant Bomb.

1:08:13

Definitely. I think one of the last things I remember

1:08:16

you saying before I interrupted you. Yeah,

1:08:18

shout out to Jan who

1:08:20

continues to post a show and we are truly grateful

1:08:22

for that. Thank you Jan Ochoa. And

1:08:26

finally. Yes, thank you. Thank you

1:08:28

Jan at Giant Bomb. We appreciate

1:08:30

it. John, you need to fix the internet again. Something

1:08:32

is just there's the delay here I think. No,

1:08:35

I'm not lagged. I'm just

1:08:37

enjoying. I think finally.

1:08:40

Go ahead. For real. For

1:08:42

real Gabe. Go, go, go. You can

1:08:44

follow the show on Twitter at 8 4 Play. You

1:08:46

can follow me on Twitter at Gabriel De

1:08:48

Leon. John, we're going to find you. John

1:08:51

TV. Mark, how about you? Mark

1:08:54

McTeed. Tina, take it home.

1:08:56

Tina butts with two T's and his E.

1:08:59

And that'll do it. You

1:09:01

hand it back? Perfect. Awesome.

1:09:05

Thank you Gabe for that and the news

1:09:07

and thanks everybody for recording

1:09:10

and thank you dear listener for listening.

1:09:13

As always, the best thing you could do

1:09:15

until the

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Patreon gets

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warmed up right around the corner.

1:09:21

They made some changes recently. We had to kind of reassess.

1:09:24

We had everything all ready to go and the

1:09:26

Patreon changes came up. Right, it's like the day

1:09:28

before we launched, right? We had to reset everything.

1:09:30

So blame them please. But

1:09:34

we have to reassess. We had a very intricate

1:09:37

plan all worked out and just ready

1:09:39

to hit the button and then that happened. So

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until then though, until you

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can contribute

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financially, please

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pay it forward by telling a friend

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sure somebody will do.

1:09:59

best podcast somewhere at

1:10:02

some point and hey it'd mean

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a lot if we showed

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up on that if you do enjoy it and again as always

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if you don't

1:10:09

keep it to yourself and why are

1:10:11

you listening to the end of the show anyway

1:10:14

you don't love yourself that much

1:10:18

so until two

1:10:20

weeks from now who wants to trot

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out the very storied

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happy tradition that we love

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to talk about at the end of the podcast he's

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