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2:00

rugs, or perhaps raid your

2:02

closet for old clothing that's not needed.

2:05

Could we literally do that? Just like ring around?

2:07

We're in a pretty open room here.

2:09

Could we not just get one of those little like rolly

2:12

curtains? Like they have it like, yeah,

2:14

yeah, yeah. And just get some nice edgy

2:16

cloth curtains. Oh

2:18

God, it gets so hot. And then a roof on

2:20

it. That would get really hot and smelly.

2:23

But speaking of hot and smelly, wait,

2:25

I usually, to my right, stage

2:29

left.

2:32

Yeah, whatever. That

2:34

is

2:35

Gabe, what the hell was your nickname

2:38

gonna be Daily On? Gabe, meet the parents.

2:41

Oh yeah. Daily On. Sure, sure.

2:43

Big step. Big step, Gabe,

2:46

in any relationship. Meet the parents,

2:48

meet the Japanese parents. Meet the Japanese parents.

2:51

How did that go? I scored

2:53

a 12 out of 10 mark. Damn.

2:57

According to the girlfriend. The

2:59

views are in. According to. According to the

3:01

girlfriend, her sisters. Oh,

3:04

she has sisters. She has sisters. She

3:06

has sisters. She has sisters. She

3:08

has sisters. Who's sisters? Older

3:10

or younger sisters? She is the youngest.

3:14

Oh, so they are able to critically

3:16

judge this. Were they at home that weekend

3:18

as well? Yes. Really? Oh,

3:20

that's high pressure, man. Yeah, that is. Parents

3:22

were in town. So we went to a nice Japanese

3:25

dinner place. You went to a Japanese

3:27

place. Yeah, yeah. Acoustics

3:29

were great. You're in Japan. Okay,

3:33

now I know whatever. Normal

3:36

food here. Yes.

3:38

Yeah, and I. Had

3:40

you been coached on what to. Some

3:42

friends were like, okay, okay, okay.

3:45

First, make sure your

3:47

bow is like this deep, but not that deep. Oh,

3:49

you got the full year bow. Holy shit. Did

3:51

you have to like stay down until they were like, you know, they're

3:53

like lifting. Yeah, did the dad

3:55

have a giant stick, a giant kendo

3:57

that he would smack you with if you did a.

3:59

Incorrect that is angle Her

4:03

dad has a present so I actually don't want to upset him. This

4:06

is this podcast too. I'm sure so sure so

4:10

he I was

4:12

advised to bring gifts so I did some research.

4:14

Okay, I found out her father's favorite

4:17

liqueur

4:18

And I brought a nice nice like three bottle

4:20

thing of that and which was what

4:22

was the favor sigh? Oh very

4:24

good That's a good nihonju.

4:27

Yeah, nihonju. It's not like super high

4:29

grade nihonju, but it's like very it's like It's like Tomino

4:31

hosan on the shochu scale. It's like it's high grade

4:34

Medium level. Okay, it's very good. I'll

4:37

look that up affordable and judge judge your father.

4:39

Yeah, you're a future father-in-law We might giant

4:41

giant bottles accordingly good Okay,

4:44

and then her mother likes to go and walks they have a dog

4:46

so I got a very nice shady

4:49

hat Did the dog get a gift?

4:50

Fuck that dog. Oh You

4:55

just ended everything You

4:58

better beat that out of ten, but yeah,

5:01

yeah beep it out. Everyone's gonna be

5:03

like oh shit What's the dog's name? No, actually told

5:05

you John is adorable. I love told her chance John

5:09

Speaking of told a John game Here

5:12

I by the way and Mark games is

5:14

McDonald

5:15

But it's not the nickname I wrote

5:17

here for you. Oh, that's all right. Who else do

5:19

we who else do we have here? Bit

5:22

bucket John bit bucket

5:25

like Ricky already It was

5:27

a bit summit. What's the fuck? Yeah?

5:31

That's a that's a coding joke. There's a piece

5:33

of software called Bic Bic bucket and

5:36

it's oh boy. All right Well somewhere

5:38

like five people Names

5:41

for your girlfriend's parents. Yes,

5:43

cuz man you would have never passed that I showed up

5:45

ask them What do I call you and they were like I just a toast

5:48

on and okay?

5:51

I asked deep and they were like yeah, just

5:53

do that. I was like, okay dad is

5:55

so tiny. I mean dad I'm I'm

5:58

married and I don't have oh toast I have,

6:00

we're on a first name basis. Okay.

6:04

Well, that's strong. Some might

6:06

say, yeah, even more familiar. Yeah.

6:09

Um, okay. So Bitbucket

6:11

back to you. Uh-huh.

6:13

Yeah. Let's talk about bits of it, I guess. Right.

6:16

This is our, that's good. Yeah. That's how

6:18

it was a good time. It was. BitSummit

6:20

the yearly indie festival in Kyoto.

6:23

First of its kind, right? It was kind of the first indie

6:26

thing. Pretty much. Which annual?

6:28

It was 11th this year. 10 or 11.

6:30

They started getting weird with their numbering. They all have strange names.

6:33

This year was called BitSummit Let's Go. I

6:35

don't even know. But I think it was the 11th

6:37

one. Yeah.

6:38

They had a big 10. Yeah. And then so

6:40

like everyone had, had a couple kind

6:42

of COVID years, a couple lean years, one online

6:45

only year. And, um, and last

6:47

year I think was like maybe business only or something.

6:49

I forget. It was, it was definitely smaller last year. It

6:51

was. Yeah. I wasn't there, but it

6:53

was much smaller. I know this year was

6:56

back. Was it the first year back? BitSummit

6:58

is back. Four years. Like, yeah,

7:00

it was packed. Nature is healing.

7:02

It was a great time, man. It was, I thought it was a good show,

7:04

like lots of good, interesting games and stuff,

7:06

um, got to see a lot of people we haven't seen

7:08

in a while. And for me at

7:10

least, it wasn't like my first show since

7:13

like, you know, the COVID pause or whatever, but

7:15

like since the blip, but, um, I

7:17

think it was the first one that really felt like, uh,

7:19

like the old days and it like, oh, hey, we'd finally

7:22

got back to normal and maybe even a little better

7:24

than it used to be. Like, I felt like this was maybe the best BitSummit

7:26

I'd been to. Right.

7:28

I only stayed for a couple of days. I came, I came a little early,

7:30

hung out with some people beforehand and then like went on the business

7:32

day. And then I sort of left the morning

7:35

of the pub. I think you did too. Yeah, you left the morning. We left

7:37

the morning of the public days. Um, but

7:39

yeah, like those shows, a lot of it is like,

7:42

who's there or who comes in town and like

7:44

so many people were in town because I think

7:47

like we're having here in Japan, just in

7:49

general this year, there's so much pent

7:51

up, like, Oh, I had my tickets bought or

7:53

I was going to come the next year or whatever. Like

7:56

so many people are like, when shit opens back up,

7:58

I'm coming to Japan. And then.

7:59

And then for people in the gaming industry, this

8:02

is like a really good excuse

8:04

to. Yeah. The indie community.

8:07

As far as the weather, yes. It wasn't

8:09

as hot as it could have been. No,

8:12

it actually was hotter in Tokyo. So

8:14

we got out. We got there. It was a couple degrees cooler

8:16

and it was raining, which actually was kind of welcome, to be honest.

8:19

It was so hot here. But yeah, the indie community

8:21

here in Japan is really tight knit and there's

8:23

a lot of great people in it. And I think it was

8:25

just, and that combined with, yeah, like so

8:27

many people coming over.

8:28

You know, PlayStation has a booth that bits on it. So all the PlayStation

8:31

people are coming over and Nintendo has their booth and all

8:33

these different companies kind of send their people

8:36

over and third parties. A

8:38

lot of the third parties come for it. And like,

8:40

even yeah, even just developers, even people who are not

8:42

showing a game. It's like, yeah, okay.

8:45

They know somebody who's coming or whatever.

8:47

Yeah, it was a really good time.

8:51

And yeah, got to a special performance. Probably

8:54

was like one of our famous, you know, Western

8:56

devs who was over here. And

8:58

yeah, Ken Ishii was DJing at the Bit Summit

9:00

party, which is crazy. That was really

9:02

fun. Yeah, it

9:04

was fun.

9:06

And then yeah, the only downside being

9:09

it was also a giant festival, the kickoff

9:11

of the Gion Matsuri in Kyoto, which is

9:13

like this month long thing that

9:15

happens over there where there's tons of stuff, tons

9:17

of tourists. And I thought there was going to be

9:19

like, no, I booked a hotel like

9:21

the morning on the Shinkansen on my way in.

9:24

I was worried there was going to be no hotels at

9:27

all. Yeah, you don't

9:29

have to say where, but that hotel is with

9:32

hotel. I always stay at and it's always available. So yeah, it's

9:34

a good place to maybe people don't know about it, but it's like 20 minutes

9:36

away. But like, yeah, like hotels

9:38

were more than usual. I was hearing from a lot of people

9:40

packed. A couple of people like didn't stick around because they couldn't

9:42

get a hotel because of the same weekend

9:45

as that. Well, even just in general in Japan

9:47

now, like hotel occupancy is running crazy.

9:50

And that's why prices are going up is because

9:52

yeah, it's because they're full.

9:53

And like a lot of people can't even

9:55

stay at the places they normally do because they're just straight

9:58

up packed. Yeah, it was a.

9:59

weird time like after during

10:02

COVID when literally no one was here. And

10:05

that to me that sounds magical. Like

10:07

when you get that like no tourists actually anywhere, any

10:10

big city to have no tourists, just the people who live there

10:12

is like fantastic. But you couldn't appreciate it that

10:14

much though, because you're really inside the whole time because

10:16

of COVID. Yeah. And like just scrolling

10:19

Twitter, like now I think about it and it's like,

10:21

oh yeah, why didn't I go out

10:23

to more places then? And it's like, one,

10:25

everything was shut down. Yeah. And then

10:27

two, you just had to be doom scrolling

10:29

Twitter

10:29

to find out what the latest like you're

10:32

going to feel like, do I need to be like

10:34

spraying down my groceries that

10:36

get delivered and whatever. That's why

10:39

I did that Frappuccino journey. That

10:41

was, I had just gotten vaccinated. That was

10:43

the height of COVID. Yes.

10:46

Hubris. If you need to know what we're talking about, go back

10:48

and

10:49

listen to those episodes where two years ago,

10:51

Gabe would take a Shinkansen to

10:53

a station, just get the local

10:57

limited edition Frappuccino. Oh yeah. And

10:59

sometimes in the station. Sometimes. I

11:01

didn't have enough time. Get back

11:03

on the train.

11:04

See, that's not like a, that doesn't sound

11:06

like a pure COVID activity to be like, that sounds like

11:08

a genuine, real fun time. That

11:10

sounds like a sociopath. Oh, that's great. Fun

11:13

time, I guess. But

11:15

yes, that's an interesting point that

11:17

you bring up.

11:18

Gabe, you're going to have to say this because I don't understand

11:20

it. Tina's name or? Yeah. Oh,

11:23

Tina Weeping Willow Carter. Thank

11:25

you for joining us. Hi. Oh, I

11:28

cried over a musical last week. Oh,

11:30

that's what it is, right? Yes. Which would

11:32

like a person musical. Is

11:35

it a Willow musical? I don't know if you called your week. Well,

11:37

I was kind of hoping. I went to see West

11:39

Side Story because it's here

11:42

visiting again. Nice.

11:44

It comes on tour. I guess.

11:47

Is that cry worthy? I don't remember that being like a real

11:49

tearjerker. Well, I

11:51

mean, you need to remember who I

11:53

am, right? Yeah, you cry every single day. I cry at

11:55

a lot of things. But no, West Side Story,

11:58

it's basically Romeo and Juliet. Right

12:00

in Manhattan with singing. Right.

12:03

So like sad things happen. Sure. So

12:05

it's a spoilers. We have spoilers.

12:08

Spoilers. Okay. I actually want to

12:10

say it. Oh, all right. Well, you said it. Oh man.

12:12

Wait. So I, I'm curious about this because I

12:14

have not seen any live

12:17

touring. Was this an American production

12:19

that was touring here or was it Japanese?

12:22

You know, that's a very good question. I don't know where it's actually

12:24

from, but it was an English production. Okay. That

12:26

was my, that was, could you tell where the actors?

12:29

Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's no,

12:31

it's foreigners. Okay. Okay. And how are they doing?

12:33

Are they doing the, like the subtitle projected

12:35

on the, yeah, they have projected subtitles,

12:38

um, vertical on either side of the

12:40

stage. That's awesome. So they have,

12:42

you know, all the lyrics and, and everything

12:45

that everyone is saying. I

12:48

never saw this Spielberg. I never saw the Spielberg.

12:51

Neither did I. Well, I did. That's the only one I watched.

12:54

Okay. Good for you.

12:55

No, I grew up watching the old

12:57

movie. Roger. Is that Roger? Is it? No,

13:01

no, no, no, I don't know. Did

13:04

you say in your head? Like, I know. I don't know who

13:06

that is. Well, I can't confidently say no,

13:08

because I don't actually know who it was.

13:11

You know, like I don't have a correction to give. So

13:14

I hesitate

13:14

to. That's the only thing I know. Organized guy, man. That's

13:16

not a line. No,

13:19

he's not. That is a line. I

13:22

want to be in a man. Google it. Dorito

13:24

it. That is the best song.

13:26

But that sounds like a good time. It was

13:28

a good time, especially because it was an impulsive

13:30

choice. Like the week before I was like,

13:32

you know what? Fuck it. I want to go see a musical. So I pulled

13:34

it up and saw if there were any tickets left and there's like,

13:36

it

13:37

was down enough to the wire that there's like a

13:39

single seat available.

13:42

Like one over here and one way

13:44

over there. And I just wanted to go.

13:46

Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. So I just picked one out and

13:48

I ended up having what is literally probably the best

13:51

seat in the house. I was like right in the middle.

13:54

Just, I was far enough back on the floor

13:56

to where the floor started to angle up.

13:59

So nobody's head was. It was

14:01

beautiful. I was trying

14:03

to buy tickets for help somebody

14:05

buy tickets for the what's

14:08

the English name of the new Ghibli movie.

14:11

Can we touch you on the boy and the Heron boy

14:13

and the Heron. Yeah. How do you live? How do you live?

14:15

Right. And like,

14:17

yeah, those the seat maps where

14:19

it's like, well, yes, there are three

14:22

seats, but there's right there. The front

14:24

row at the extreme right

14:26

and two at the like extreme left.

14:29

Did you see that? I did. I saw it. Yeah. The second day. No,

14:32

I still have not seen it. I really want to. But

14:34

you said not really probably six year

14:36

old. No. Knowing what you said

14:38

about how your daughter reacted to

14:40

Zelda. Yeah. I would say she's all like

14:43

some of the stuff in this movie. Yeah. It's not it's not for

14:45

kids. It's like it's not it's hard to say that. Like

14:47

it's not like

14:47

he said he made it like for his

14:50

grandson, like like leaving

14:53

it as his last message for maybe when he goes

14:55

to 18 or something. I don't know if it was a

14:57

video game, it would be rated T like, OK,

14:59

that's a good. Yeah. It's like

15:02

it's not like adult in the way that like Mona Noki or something

15:04

might have come across. But it's also like

15:07

there are a few scenes in there which are like with Trump. I

15:09

feel like we traumatize a kid. OK, so

15:12

somebody compared it to howl. So many in our friend group compared

15:14

to howls moving castle in terms of like intensity.

15:17

It's been a while since I saw how I would say it

15:19

was very unique, though. It's felt

15:21

like very much. And I'm

15:23

glad about this. It felt very much like its own original

15:25

movie. And at the same time, there

15:27

are lots of nods to like his previous films in there, I think. But

15:31

because this has got to be the last one. They've

15:33

said a lot of times. This has got to be the last one. Well,

15:36

doesn't actually. Yeah, you never

15:37

know. I mean, what is he? He's like 80 or 80 or something

15:39

like that. Eighty two. Yeah. OK. I

15:43

saw the Resident Evil movie. Oh,

15:45

boy. Death Island. Wait, in

15:48

the movie theater, did you pay

15:51

legal tender to do this or? Snuck

15:54

in. Well, you. Yeah. We

15:56

all have regrets in our life, Mike. Wait,

15:58

really? Yeah.

15:59

I wanted popcorn. Wow. Usually

16:02

when I want popcorn, I go see a movie. It's

16:04

the other way around for me. It's like, oh,

16:06

I want to eat some popcorn. I guess I'll go see a movie to

16:09

consume popcorn. Okay, so give me

16:11

this setup that anyone would know about this movie from

16:13

watching the trailer.

16:14

Oh, gosh. I want to say like, Lea

16:17

and Lizlian in it and Claire. Aren't they all in

16:19

it? Chris Redfield? Yes, they're

16:21

all in it. Okay. And when does it take

16:23

place? It seems to take place after six.

16:26

Oh boy. I can't tell if it's before seven or not, but

16:28

it's basically about Jill getting

16:31

over the crazy stuff that happened to her in

16:33

five.

16:34

Okay. Wait,

16:35

like actual like mental trauma thing?

16:38

Okay. Did she? I

16:40

remember five. I only remember like what I

16:42

remember about five before playing five, which

16:44

was like, wasn't

16:45

she like? She was in like a scuba tank and

16:47

then became a bad person. She

16:50

had a like control do dad

16:52

conveniently where her cleavage is

16:54

because, you know,

16:56

that's where the control do dads go. Yeah.

16:59

She was a bad, she was like a boss. But

17:01

she was alive at the end of the game, I guess. You

17:04

actually game over if you kill her. Nobody died.

17:06

Has anybody died in

17:08

Resident Evil? Western canon a couple times.

17:10

Well, like multiple times by which

17:12

I, he's not really ever died. So

17:15

spoilers. Oh boy. Oh

17:17

boy. Oh boy. Wow. End

17:20

of eight, maybe. But the movie's not like

17:22

canon, is it? It has nothing

17:25

that's conflicting with what's out there. So

17:29

yeah, it.

17:30

Did it lead into seven at all or

17:32

haven't you like little? It's

17:34

like, it's honestly, it's just gun

17:37

porn is when I was, while I was just like, Oh, did you

17:39

like it? No. Okay.

17:42

I don't, did you have you had a good experience at a Resident

17:44

Evil movie in your life where you said,

17:46

I'm going to go see this movie in

17:48

the movie theater? I think some of the early like Miladovitch

17:51

movies were good airplane movies, airplane movies,

17:53

you know, like

17:53

I have a, I have a traumatic memory

17:55

with that movie. The first one, which one there's like

17:57

seven. Yeah. Okay.

18:00

laser-holing. My mother may or may not

18:02

have walked in on me making out with a boy with

18:04

that movie on the TV. Nice! And

18:08

she literally was like,

18:10

do you kids want some snacks? Oh,

18:12

man. She was so sweet

18:14

about it. Amazing. But you know, that's literally

18:16

one of those things that I like lying

18:18

in bed at night, you know, when you just like can't sleep and you're like,

18:21

oh, I wish I could sink into the earth. That's

18:23

what I'm talking about.

18:26

Yeah. Um, you don't have to see

18:28

that movie, Mark. If you if you really

18:30

had your eyes set on. I was really wondering

18:33

after the 400 other movies

18:35

that I've never watched, including that

18:38

Netflix series.

18:39

That looks so bad. That was bad. Lance.

18:41

It has Wesker. It has Wesker. He

18:44

is Wesker. That's right. That's right.

18:46

Lance Predick. Yeah, as one of his as

18:49

one of his last roles. Do

18:50

Chris and Leon first meet in

18:52

Resident Evil 6? Because they like

18:55

have a rapport in this movie. They

18:57

might. And I was like, wait, when

18:59

did the meet meet that I always wanted

19:01

to meet happen? One of the meet Q I always

19:04

wanted to happen happen because they are

19:06

like, oh, how are you doing, Chris? I'm doing

19:08

great. Leon's crazy. This virus. And

19:11

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is that how the movie happens? I

19:13

don't know about this virus. It's real. I

19:15

actually that's what I punched up

19:17

the dialogue a little bit there. All right.

19:19

When you were not, well, inexplicably

19:22

wasting your time on even

19:25

pop, terrible movies that will be also available

19:27

online. And probably like a week. What

19:30

were you? What were you playing? What

19:33

have you been playing? I have been playing a little Capcom

19:35

game that came out last weekend.

19:38

Well, something you like to call. So

19:40

primal.

19:41

Dino crisis. Five. I

19:43

don't know what they're up to. Four

19:45

or five. Dino crisis zero. What are they up

19:47

to? Is it four? Three years

19:50

on X-Box, right? Yeah, three years on X-Box. And

19:52

then I think they had the good sense to shut it down. In space?

19:55

In space. Dinosaurs in space? Uh-huh.

19:58

When you got that Microsoft funding, man. Guys

20:00

guys literally not the limit anymore I guess but yeah Technically

20:03

it's low orbit and exo primal is not quite

20:05

space But yeah, uh that came out Exo primal was

20:07

so obviously was dino crisis at some point Yes,

20:09

painful Did they connect it? Do they

20:11

ever in the game itself? I don't know dino crisis story

20:14

so I can't tell you uh confidently

20:16

but like What was her name? Regina or something like that? Regina Yeah,

20:19

the redhead lady who is not Regina

20:22

Her name is Like Gina Victoria

20:24

Gene But she goes by majesty

20:27

But like honestly the first two hours I'm playing this game

20:29

I'm like oh these are all abandoned dino

20:31

crisis assets This is clearly like they

20:33

tried to string stuff together

20:35

Because like Did you just say she goes by majesty?

20:38

Her nickname her handle is

20:40

majesty It's like Top Gun they have uh Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Every

20:43

signs Yeah, it's like a very ragtag

20:45

crew you're the new guy ace

20:47

Oh boy You're already ace and

20:50

you're new Yeah You didn't even do anything

20:52

to earn that nickname You did because when you

20:54

do the tutorial they say you pass the

20:56

test with like Oh my gosh mega super duper

20:58

and like literally this is how the game is written Like you

21:00

passed with mega super duper flying colors you're

21:02

amazing We're gonna put you on this team over

21:05

here When you say that you mean it's kind

21:07

of intentionally over the top uh just

21:09

having fun with it Yes it is very like

21:11

it is knocking on itself in the way

21:13

that For Spoken doesn't Where For Spoken

21:16

is kind of

21:17

like negative on itself This

21:20

is knocking on itself in a very fun way It's

21:23

having fun with Not taking it's not taking anything

21:25

too seriously Are

21:26

you saying perhaps it flirts with camp?

21:29

Oh it still can't be Tina Word It

21:31

is it embraces the camp and the fun

21:33

thing is story is completely

21:36

off to the side It is literally a tab

21:38

on the menu of like go to the

21:41

story You play around So

21:43

is this Earth Defense Force with dinosaurs or what

21:45

like what is the compare it to give me a I've

21:48

limited exposure to EDF but

21:50

it is it is too short

21:52

to be like every mission is too short

21:54

I feel to be an EDF tier thing but it is straight

21:56

up like uh waves

21:59

of dinosaurs

21:59

of varying varieties coming at you with

22:02

different things. And then- Are you playing

22:04

online with other people or are you playing by yourself? It is

22:07

two teams of five and it is

22:09

PVPVE. So the first

22:12

three

22:12

quarters of the match is PVE

22:15

and then the last

22:17

final mission is what they call it. It

22:19

is either another PVE thing or Team

22:22

Fortress 2 where it's like escort

22:25

the payload or domination

22:27

or whatever that you're actually actively playing against

22:29

the other team for. Interesting. And you

22:31

guys spend all this time taking down dinosaurs and then they

22:34

just go and kill each other? That's such a-

22:36

Well, the premise is that- and

22:38

it's very fun. They get it right up front

22:40

of the AI has gone rogue

22:43

and it's trying to collect- Ripped from the headline.

22:45

Straight from the third line of the

22:48

story is the evil company is like, no,

22:50

our AI doesn't go rogue. It's

22:52

totally fine. And, oh, it's totally

22:55

gone rogue. It's dinosaurs?

22:57

Yeah. That's

22:59

how he's getting the data. Every AI is just waiting

23:01

to go. Finally, I

23:04

can build dinosaurs. Every AI's

23:06

dream. And there's

23:08

an audio log, I guess, where you could say where some guy

23:10

is like, he's honestly having a nervous breakdown

23:13

saying, these are just, it's all fake

23:14

illusions. There's the stop shooting

23:16

guys. It's fake. And then he gets eaten

23:18

alive and you hear him go, of course you

23:21

do. All right.

23:23

I don't know. So it's going for

23:25

kind of like dumb, stupid fun. Yes. So

23:28

is it dumb, stupid fun? It is dumb, stupid fun. It is

23:30

a fantastic podcast game. But-

23:33

While you're listening to podcasts, you play it, you

23:35

mean? But I will say that the

23:38

first couple of hours there is not a lot

23:40

of level variety because what happens is as

23:42

you progress the story,

23:44

it starts adding new types of missions

23:47

that then sort of chronologically in the story

23:49

take place afterwards. But then you have unlocked

23:51

that sort of mission type

23:53

for the rest of the game.

23:54

So like the first couple of hours, you're literally

23:56

just doing like the same two or three maps.

23:59

And you're- being matched, you have to be

24:02

being matched against with other players as well.

24:05

Yep. So is it actually, you

24:07

said you

24:08

play the first part, you're playing PvE. Yep.

24:11

Then is it checking, okay, are there five

24:13

other actual players out there? Okay, we're going to bring them

24:15

in. No, so it matches 10 people

24:17

and splits them into teams of five. At

24:20

the start of the match. Okay. Honestly,

24:22

one of the, there are many criticisms of this game is one

24:24

is that it takes too long to get into the match after you've

24:26

match-maked. So there's like

24:28

two minutes of you just waiting to be ported to

24:30

the match while it's like, Are you like trying

24:32

to find other players? Pick your robots,

24:35

look at the other team, listen to the cutscene,

24:38

like intro dialogue stuff. Is

24:40

there strategy there? Are you like, so there's like

24:43

counter choosing based on who? Potentially,

24:45

yeah. So it is three types of, they're

24:47

called exo suits, the, the pilotable

24:49

robots. So there's assault, there's

24:52

tank, there's support, right? So

24:54

different kinds of assault, different kinds of tanking and all

24:56

that stuff. So there's actually like different synergies and

24:58

stuff depending on the mission type

25:00

and like the,

25:03

I guess you could say elite monsters. So like a

25:05

triac monster dinosaur. So like the triceratops,

25:08

you want a very specific comp,

25:09

but triceratops appears that your,

25:11

your sort of team can be centered

25:13

around. But the cool thing is you're not locked

25:16

into that in the middle of the match. So all that happens

25:18

is you can jump out of your suit

25:21

and then switch into another suit in the middle

25:23

of the match to address

25:25

whatever needs to be addressed. So what you're saying is those two

25:27

minutes are pointless. You

25:29

can change fast. There's no cooldowns when you

25:31

change. If you die, do you respond?

25:33

Does your team have a 15 second timer? Your

25:35

team can revive you. If not, you go back to the spawn

25:37

point. This is a

25:40

wonderful game pass game.

25:41

This is, I can gladly. Is

25:44

that how you played it? You played it on game pass? Yes. I

25:46

forgot this was on game pass. It is a really good game pass

25:48

game. I,

25:51

if someone were to give me a code for it,

25:53

I'd be all about Exo Primal. I'm

25:55

not sure it's worth the $60, but

25:57

the thing that I do like is.

25:59

Because it's random, like you can only

26:02

queue for PvP or random

26:04

or PvP PvE for that final mission.

26:07

What I really like is how the

26:09

game sort of interrupts itself with that formula

26:11

when it weaves in story missions.

26:14

Because you don't know. You

26:15

don't really know. You said story is

26:17

like a totally side optional

26:20

tab thing. There are raids in this

26:22

like game straight up like raids.

26:26

How many five person raids? 10 person raids.

26:28

Like what they do. Co-ops. 10 person raids.

26:31

30 revives. Wow. And

26:33

you kind of don't know when it's going to happen after

26:36

the story point. So like there's when as the

26:39

the way it works is you do a match. You

26:42

get closer to a new story cutscene, right? And

26:44

then on the eve of a story cutscene,

26:47

it's going to load a very specific mission for you. Okay.

26:50

Usually.

26:51

Some of those are like straight up. Here's

26:53

a giant boss.

26:55

It's destiny. Like you're playing death. Is

26:58

it any other objective other than just, hey, kill the

27:00

boss or do you have to do like puzzle to kill

27:02

the boss? No puzzles, but it's like survive waves.

27:04

We're going to throw really so

27:06

because like different enemies have different sort

27:09

of mechanics. I really read. That's just

27:11

like a. Yeah, there's no puzzles, but hey, I have a

27:13

boss. It's a boss encounter with lots

27:15

of ads. That's a boss fight.

27:17

Call that a boss fight. Okay.

27:19

It's a good boss fight. Okay.

27:21

I want to talk about we're doing a tight 60 here today. So

27:23

I got it. I went on. Sorry. I want to get to. That's

27:26

all right. But that I was very curious about that because

27:28

I feel like

27:29

we didn't really. Yeah, we don't. I feel like

27:31

for all the times I've seen trailers like game. I never really

27:33

knew exactly how it worked. I

27:35

just knew lots of dinosaurs looked kind

27:37

of like it sort of just fell into existence too. I feel

27:39

like there's not a ton of marketing behind it. Is it a

27:42

lot of platform? It is. So it kind

27:44

of has to be right for a game like that. If they want to get as many

27:46

people. Crossplay. Yes, crossplay to. Yeah.

27:48

Xbox PS5 theme. I don't

27:50

even know. I don't know about steam because I only see Xbox

27:53

or the Capcom logo. Gotcha. Tina. How is

27:55

viewfinder? I was very curious. I also

27:57

did not realize that this came out.

27:59

This is on. Are you playing on PlayStation? It

28:02

is on PlayStation. I got it on Steam. Okay.

28:05

And I guess I played maybe two

28:08

hours of it so far. Based

28:11

on what I've read, it seems like it's about

28:13

four or five hours long.

28:16

So far having a great time. Pretty

28:18

cool. It's one of those- What is this? I don't know

28:20

about this game. Oh, okay. So this is,

28:24

I think you've probably seen trailers for it on

28:26

Twitter or something.

28:26

Sure you have. It's been in some showcases that you've

28:29

definitely seen. I'd say, purse first.

28:33

What? Person first. Puzzle

28:35

game. Person first. Walking

28:37

through the room purse first, yeah. And

28:40

you have a camera

28:42

or any kind of an image and you

28:44

can hold it up in front of you and

28:47

merge it with the landscape around you

28:49

and it becomes an explorable environment. Okay.

28:52

So if you're on a platform floating in space

28:55

and you have a picture of

28:56

a hallway in a castle, you

28:59

can hold that picture up and activate it and then

29:01

walk into that hallway and turn the corner and explore

29:03

the rest of the castle. So it's like, what

29:05

was that, shoot.

29:07

What was that game that was really

29:10

popular that messed around with all the

29:12

forced perspective stuff?

29:14

I

29:16

know what you're talking about. Steam, yeah. Something

29:19

with an M, M, M. But

29:21

yeah, you've definitely seen this where it's like, yeah,

29:23

you hold something up and then once you let

29:26

it go, like it stays there. And

29:28

now when you move perspective, it's

29:30

still there. It's kind of one of those, you have to kind

29:33

of see it, but when you see it, you get an immediate. Super liminal?

29:35

Yes, thank you. That was gonna drive me crazy. Super liminal

29:38

plays with this kind of puzzle mechanic

29:40

a bunch as well. But

29:43

fun so far, kind of. Fun so far. It's

29:46

pretty cool. It does a really good

29:48

job, something I appreciate a lot in a game, it does

29:50

a really good job of slowly

29:52

introducing you to the mechanics. Because

29:54

when you watch the trailer and you see, because

29:57

they have to put a bunch of exciting stuff in a trailer, right?

29:59

It can be kind of overwhelming to think like, oh shit,

30:02

that's a lot of possibilities. That's too many

30:04

things to think about. Right. And

30:06

they start you off with, you know, you don't, you

30:09

don't have a camera to start with. You can use only

30:11

images that are around you.

30:13

So they've done a very good job of constructing

30:15

a tutorial where you find a picture and then

30:17

you use that one. And then you find a picture in

30:19

that one and you use that one and it gradually

30:21

expands.

30:22

You have a story, like, is there a narrative

30:24

kind of going on? Or is it seems like it? Yes. Um,

30:27

there's not like,

30:28

another thing I appreciate it a lot is they just dump you right

30:30

in the game and just be like, okay, go. They don't tell you who

30:33

you are or why you're there or what to do. You

30:35

just have to wander around and figure it out.

30:37

Um, and then as

30:39

you play through it, you know, there's

30:42

a

30:42

cork board on the wall that has some newspaper

30:45

clippings that you read those and

30:47

think, ah, this is why I'm here. Or,

30:49

you know, you, there are audio recordings,

30:51

storytelling, there are audio recordings

30:54

left behind that you can listen to.

30:57

That, you know, you can hear

30:59

clues about the people who were here before you

31:01

and scientists saying dinosaurs

31:03

aren't really there and then getting eaten. Exactly.

31:07

Exactly. I actually just hit that chapter

31:09

yesterday. It was really difficult to listen to. Environmental

31:11

storytelling. But one

31:13

thing that I will say, uh, at

31:16

the very start, you have a, and

31:18

this is not, I will not, I wouldn't

31:20

think this is a spoiler

31:22

at the very start. You have one of those kind

31:24

of audio companions, you know, like a

31:26

little voice in your ear saying, okay, let's go. Time

31:28

to do your job.

31:31

And she talks a lot.

31:34

You know, I would walk into a room and I hadn't even looked

31:37

at anything yet. And she would say, wow, is

31:39

that a blah, blah, blah? And I'm like, bitch, I didn't even find

31:41

that. Calm down.

31:41

Can you turn her off?

31:43

That's a good question. Cause Verizon, like

31:45

a lot of games have had that

31:47

where it's like, Hey, I don't even have a chance to think

31:49

about this yet. And you're already telling me what the damn,

31:52

you can, I almost

31:54

see immediately put voice volume down

31:56

to zero. Cause I just didn't want her talking in my

31:58

ear

31:58

all the time. And I had subtitles

32:00

on the screen, so if there was any

32:03

important information that she was going to give me, I would get

32:06

it. But she's

32:09

there only for the first little

32:11

bit. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. And

32:14

then when she gets eaten by a dinosaur,

32:16

then you're on your own. And

32:20

you get a different kind of guide through

32:22

the environment who's a lot more mellowed out

32:24

and is a little bit less

32:27

extra helpful and a little bit more, I wonder

32:29

what's going on here. And

32:31

he has a nice vibe. Right on. So

32:34

that's something that would have you immediately

32:36

turn me off the game. But it is

32:39

temporary. So.

32:41

Well, that's not to say that you just like a good puzzle,

32:43

like a good puzzle game or what kind of attracted

32:46

you to this game. It

32:47

just looks really fucking cool. It's one

32:49

of those things where you see the main, like

32:51

the main mechanic of the game is the draw, right?

32:53

Right, right. And you see that mechanic

32:55

and you think, well, that's fucking

32:57

wild. All the possibilities. I can't have made that work.

32:59

There must be a way for me to break this.

33:02

And it's really so far

33:04

really well put together. I haven't

33:06

been able to break stuff. And

33:09

it's pretty cool because the

33:10

photos

33:13

that you get, you know, initially there

33:15

are only environments, but when you get the ability

33:17

to take your own photos, right? Puzzles

33:20

get structured around your ability

33:22

to

33:23

change your own position for taking the photo

33:25

as well as change your own position for setting up the

33:27

photo. So you might need to

33:29

take a picture of an item

33:31

and then place that photo again to duplicate

33:34

that item. Interesting. Or

33:36

there might be something behind the wall

33:38

that you can't get to. So you take a picture

33:40

of the wall, rotate the photograph,

33:44

stick it down, and then you can walk around

33:46

the wall. You know, the photo

33:48

magically knows what is behind the

33:50

wall. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. And

33:52

it's been used in some really interesting

33:55

ways. And like I said, I'm only a couple of hours in. So

33:57

it looks like

33:59

there are five. or six areas and I've just

34:02

finished the second one. Okay. I'm part way

34:04

into the third one. Is like a hub is or how do

34:06

you know five or six areas? Is it like a hub structure

34:09

hub and stuff? Yeah, there's kind of a hub

34:11

world with place to

34:13

go to access levels. And there's like

34:16

five or six. Got it. And then you go to

34:18

the next one and it seems like there are more levels

34:20

the further along you advance. Right

34:23

on. Cool. So, so far it's. Can I keep playing? Yeah,

34:25

definitely. Cool. So far it's very cool. It sounds

34:27

like the right size for a game like that. Like a cool

34:29

like five, six hour.

34:31

Yeah. That sounds nice. I do. I do want

34:33

to check that one out. Yeah.

34:36

That trailer. You're right. It just totally

34:38

sells it.

34:38

And the music is really great. It's very chill vibes.

34:41

It's, it's very like relaxing to just kind

34:43

of walk around and see what's

34:45

going on. Very cool. Uh,

34:48

BitBuggett, what do you, what do you got?

34:52

Uh, nothing really. I did. Uh,

34:54

sorry to see you. Still chugging away on tears.

34:57

I think I'm finally done with Zelda. I

35:00

just hit about 250 hours and I. Don't

35:03

elaborate. Sort of collected my last thing

35:06

that I feel like collecting. There's not much

35:08

else. I did a lot. I mean, I

35:10

found every cave in the game, you know, did

35:12

obviously all the shrines, all the, this,

35:14

that, and the other thing. Uh, how do you know?

35:16

Does it keep track? Yeah. A lot of stuff you,

35:18

there's ways in the game to find out like, yeah,

35:20

various, they're all kind of different, but I

35:22

didn't go for the Koroks and I'm not going to. There's

35:25

a couple things

35:26

that I could still do, but I, um,

35:28

I basically was, I'm done. Like I

35:30

had so many kinds of big milestones way more

35:32

than I ever did in Breath of the Wild.

35:34

You didn't do the court. You didn't do the Koroks

35:36

in Breath of the Wild. Did you? No, I did not. No, in

35:38

fact, I'd look, I went back. So I did all the side

35:40

quests and like side adventures and everything in tears

35:42

of the kingdom and I didn't even do that in Breath of the Wild.

35:44

I didn't even realize I went back and looked and I was like, Oh, I

35:47

like left like a bunch of those undone, but

35:49

I really loved it. It's it game was fantastic.

35:51

Um, had a really good time with it.

35:54

I

35:55

played through another game that I can't

35:57

talk about yet because it's not out yet. Um, but

35:59

I.

35:59

Was really good like I almost won

36:02

a dinner for one day Like I basically like played it all the way

36:04

through and kind of one sitting because it was really good So I

36:06

don't know when it's coming out. It's gonna be a while yet But when it

36:08

is we'll talk about it more, but

36:09

so whenever that does come you need to say remember

36:12

that game Back when they

36:14

said code names it was helpful because you couldn't

36:16

remember. That's right Yeah, what the code name is more

36:18

is more of an excuse for why I don't have much else

36:21

to talk about playing because I spent Most time in that I

36:23

did last night bust out my DS my

36:25

3ds and started playing Chrono Trigger To

36:30

this day I've talked about this before I've still

36:32

actually never finished corner trigger. You know, they're

36:34

my name is my secret Same

36:37

for the patreon.

36:38

Wait, am I the only person at this table who

36:40

knows that game intimately? Yeah, I mean I knew

36:43

it I yeah Well, yes, if

36:45

you mean by finishing it then yes I mean I bought

36:48

that game on day one in Japan So

36:50

I did like play the shit out of it back then but I just

36:52

never finished it And so also when you say

36:54

intimately do you mean like with Resident Evil on

36:56

the like her mom's daughter in the basement? And

37:01

to stretch a little for that one Yeah,

37:05

but I think I'm gonna get back

37:07

into FF 16 now like so, you know I

37:10

was gone in America for a little while had a vacation

37:11

and then did you finish up somebody

37:13

I know finished FF 16? Oh,

37:16

it was one of my co-workers surprised you didn't

37:18

finish it Gabe. You're always like so primal got in

37:20

the way I will just say quickly

37:23

I got into the like I guess it

37:26

feels like act two or act three is what I'm entering

37:28

out of three I mean are there only three acts? I

37:33

know it's like arbitrary

37:35

chapter five act Okay,

37:38

this feels like I'm I'm in act two if

37:40

not act three I

37:41

okay still doesn't

37:43

mean anything. He said to five act play. So I

37:45

guess that's One

37:48

of those five act plays I have three

37:51

I want to talk more about icon meeting with the parents

37:53

I Have

37:55

three icons now.

37:56

So spoiler. No, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna

37:59

end the demo It's over

38:01

but it's not quite over like right here There's

38:03

still a lot of people in town But I feel like after this weekend

38:05

I can finally go back to being a hermit and I will

38:07

play a bunch of FF 16 I will say

38:10

You will probably be familiar with the

38:13

story pacing because it's very much Final Fantasy 14 I

38:16

have already seen parts love several parts of the

38:18

game that remind me very much of FF 14 So

38:20

yeah, there's definitely you feel the DNA there

38:22

for better and for worse, but mostly for better so

38:24

far

38:25

I find myself kind of resenting the

38:27

side quests Where that's

38:29

one of the parts that's like FF 14 It's

38:33

difficult because like I'm not

38:35

a completionist by any

38:37

means But like I feel like if

38:39

there are side quests, I would like to clear

38:42

them out.

38:42

Yeah, especially because they say quest goal

38:45

Like well, that's the thing right? I

38:48

was kind of leaving them because it's just so

38:50

many of the quests are so boring It's like

38:53

just go to this other place and then kill a bunch

38:55

of standard monsters and then come back None

38:57

of this was important

38:58

No We have a couple of friends who played through it and one of

39:00

them was saying that like he did do all

39:02

the quests and by The end he kind of regretted it because

39:05

a lot of them are really just wasn't payoffs Yeah,

39:07

and like by the end of the game He said he was just like like

39:09

he really enjoyed the game But I think he said like the last

39:12

five six seven hours He was just like I knew

39:14

I need this game to be done. Like I just want to sure Okay

39:17

I might take that as my as my permission

39:19

to just kind of leave them then cuz I I

39:21

had been leaving them alone and then I recently

39:23

got a

39:25

If you enter this area a major

39:27

story is going. Yeah, your story progression will

39:30

happen and you cannot come back

39:31

Yeah, I got one.

39:34

I deeply appreciate that. Thank you very much I heard

39:36

somewhere too though that some quests have like a little

39:38

plus on them or something like in FF 14 and

39:40

like those are The ones you should do like if they have a little

39:42

extra thing on the icon.

39:43

Oh Like

39:45

I've seen that yet. I don't remember. This is

39:47

what somebody told me so it could be wrong They played the

39:50

game. So I think that is a 14 as well I

39:52

forget what the marker is but some do have like a little

39:54

like hey, you might want to do this marker Yeah, he

39:57

said it was plus. It's not a plus. I don't mind

39:59

but basically

39:59

That makes sense because in 14 it's a plus. Yeah, I will

40:02

say so like I completed

40:04

the very first of those, hey, we're

40:06

going to drop some lore on you real hard,

40:08

son. Make sure you save. So I just

40:10

completed the first one of those. So now

40:13

Tina should know where I am. I do. Yay.

40:15

I always appreciate that about 14. It will tell you like

40:17

if a giant cut scene is coming. Hey, you might want

40:19

to set aside some time because you're going to be here for a while.

40:22

How long are we talking on these metal gear

40:24

length things? You know, sometimes they're

40:26

not as bad as I expect them to be based on the warning.

40:28

But a couple of times it was like, oh,

40:29

here's like 20 minutes of like cut scenes. In 14

40:32

I had the PS controller turn

40:34

itself off like just having the

40:37

cut scene go for it. Right, right, right.

40:38

Yeah, this one, it's not really

40:41

like one super long cut scene happening. But

40:43

it's a major story segment where you move

40:45

around a bit and then you fight some stuff. And then you move around a bit and

40:47

then you see another conversation. And you don't really

40:50

want to stop in the middle.

40:51

You want to see what is going to happen.

40:53

So you want to keep going.

40:54

Right, right, right. You see Jason Schreier.

40:57

Not to call you out, Jason, but he actually said

40:59

today that he thinks he liked FF15 more than FF16.

41:02

Oh, yeah. Wow. I did not see that.

41:04

Bold statement.

41:05

Whoa.

41:07

Zigging where everyone's zagging. I wonder if that's

41:09

the maybe it's it's

41:11

being a backlash towards 16 in general

41:13

or people. I don't know. I haven't been looking

41:15

too closely because I still haven't really played

41:17

it. So I'm not following that close either. But it

41:20

seems like people generally like it a lot.

41:22

And then there seems to be like a small contingent

41:25

of people who are like, this is not Final Fantasy,

41:27

because it's an action. More action. But

41:29

I feel like whatever, dude, if it's Final

41:31

Fantasy team made it, it's Final Fantasy. Yep.

41:34

Cut FF on the box. That's right. Counts.

41:36

All you need.

41:38

Is that should we do in

41:40

more games? We want to go into some news. We have

41:42

like 25 minutes left.

41:45

Mark, you didn't see. I think I

41:47

can answer this question myself, but I'm guessing you didn't see

41:49

Indiana Jones. Hell no. I'm

41:51

going to try and see it tomorrow.

41:53

No. How is it? How is it? The

41:55

emphasis on that. Hell no. Damn. Much

41:58

better than the last one. Much. Really

42:00

hard to do. I don't think that's hard to do. That's

42:04

still not good. It's not hard to be better.

42:06

No, actually I think it was good. I mean I think really yeah

42:08

I mean it's rank it rank it

42:10

First for me would

42:12

be Raiders second would be the last

42:15

crusade

42:20

I

42:23

don't hate temple of doom. I actually really like temple of doom, but I'd

42:25

like this more Then why were you wowing

42:27

if you did you think the crystal skull was that

42:29

good? I thought the the generation gap between

42:31

us meant, you know, the original three we're gonna

42:34

like that old people like a love I

42:36

didn't say that I like temple

42:38

of doom. Actually, I don't I don't think it's as bad people now

42:41

Like to really shit on that one, but I didn't I

42:43

you know, I had the time I was like eight or something Exactly.

42:45

It was good for that first time. I

42:47

was I was a hater and my youth of

42:49

that movie because it was just so annoying To

42:52

me how whiny the woman was. Yeah,

42:54

Marianne is such a badass in the

42:56

first one And then in the second one,

42:58

yeah, and obviously if I were in the same situation I

43:00

too would be sitting in a puddle crying like let's

43:03

be honest, right? But I remember

43:05

as a kid being like

43:06

why is this introductory scene like so

43:08

James Bondi? Why is he in a suit? Why

43:10

is he chasing a diamond through a kiss like what the fuck?

43:13

That's like the best part of the movie, too You

43:17

know Indiana Jones I mean Raiders of the Lost Ark

43:19

was like there there it was George Lucas's

43:21

answer to 007 He wanted to make a Bond movie

43:24

and then they were like, well, why don't we do this? And that movie

43:26

is so motherfucking good if you the

43:28

Rangers of the Lost Ark is just a

43:30

fucking

43:31

Masterpiece like I rewatched that and

43:34

I'm saying before watching this one I didn't rewatch

43:36

temple doing because I've seen it so many times. But um,

43:38

yeah, I think the new one's actually pretty good like

43:42

Is it just is it really good or is

43:44

it just good by the standards of like your? It's

43:47

better than down and low

43:50

that it's like it's like if you if

43:52

you grew up with this thing It is

43:55

the same guy and it is ending his story

43:57

and like I feel like they how many ways can you

43:59

And the story the dudes 82 like how many a not

44:02

gonna be fucking doing that was that not weird at

44:04

all or is like this old Guy it was only

44:06

weird in the first so in the first part of the movie

44:08

they do you know this right the first part of The movie he's

44:11

like de aged or whatever. Oh, I didn't put that

44:13

sorry. I'm not good. I'm never gonna watch it doesn't exist

44:15

No, no, you need to watch it. Yeah, I think I think it's not

44:17

there's good stuff in there but he's de

44:19

aged in the beginning of the movie and That

44:22

that looks really good. It probably looks as good as any de aging

44:24

I've seen so far But they but he the current

44:27

him does the voice and you've turned

44:29

sound like that 40 years ago Weird

44:32

it's kind of like weird that he's you hear this really old guy

44:34

in the young guys body you can hear that oxygen machine

44:37

It's like stopping to take today But

44:40

it goes some interesting places and it has some cool payoffs

44:42

and and it has some nods back to older

44:44

movies too Which is I thought was kind of nice.

44:46

So then what's her is a Phoebe Waller

44:49

bridges in that is she is God

44:51

daughter, right? Yeah,

44:52

maybe yeah, she's awesome

44:55

She would make me I would want to see it more

44:58

for that then I

45:00

wouldn't say like I loved it But I was like, oh this

45:03

actually was a really good movie and a lot of people

45:05

who I thought were gonna be haters like you Are actually

45:07

like no actually I really liked it. We're really about why

45:09

was the brought tomato score so low blah blah blah Why

45:13

was the con

45:14

standing ovation only five minutes? The

45:20

length of these Standing ovations.

45:22

Oh, they time that well

45:24

five minutes is actually very short Can

45:27

they found I think it might not have been the same writer But

45:29

it was the same outlet saying like that another

45:32

con standing ovation five minutes was like,

45:34

oh my god It was five whole minutes and then oh

45:36

really it's all context and high-frame You

45:39

know, but I'm glad I saw it. I'm glad I

45:41

saw it in movie theater. All right, I don't know Maybe

45:44

I'll get some popcorn tomorrow. Yeah, I

45:46

mean above the Resident Evil movie I mean

45:50

Also, I mean how many times in your maybe this sounds

45:52

important to you because you're still young

45:54

ish But like, you know, how many times in your life are

45:56

you gonna see Indiana Jones movie like in the theater? Yeah,

45:58

that's a fair point zero Star Wars.

46:00

I was zero.

46:02

Uh, I remember when Jurassic park got re-released

46:05

in New York city when I was like 20

46:07

and I went to the theater. So that was amazing.

46:10

When it got re-released. Yeah. They had like a like

46:12

weekend re-release or something. And did you see

46:14

the original one? It was, were you like, I saw the original

46:16

born. What

46:18

year was it? It was 92, 91. It

46:21

was 93. 93. I

46:24

was getting blisters doing street fighter. That's

46:26

right. Okay. We were talking earlier. Two

46:29

and a half years old. Yeah. Playing street fighter.

46:32

Seems

46:32

wrong on many levels, but,

46:36

uh, speaking of wrong on many levels, why

46:38

don't we talk about the news

46:40

game? Okay.

46:49

You don't

46:49

have to do it special every time game.

46:51

You can just. Tina was trying to get me to come out of my

46:53

shell. There's something to be said for just rock

46:55

solid consistency and just nailing

46:58

it. I mean, I encouraged him to explore highs and lows.

47:01

That's true. You did. I thought you were going for Mickey Mouse, but that

47:03

sounded more like Michael Jackson. It turned into Michael Jackson. Somebody

47:05

stabbed Michael Jackson. So I was dancing in my seat

47:07

and I'm like, oh, I'm too wired up to do

47:09

Mickey Mouse right now. So I got to see Mickey's

47:12

more. You should

47:12

have thrown in a new spell. Is that would have really

47:14

not might have delivered it. I can't do it anymore. Well,

47:17

highs and lows. Microsoft

47:19

certainly. Right. High. Very high.

47:21

Yes. When everything

47:24

the last minute, when everything seemed against

47:26

them, when it seemed like all hope was lost,

47:29

right

47:29

there, they won their

47:32

court case by all apparent

47:35

standards convincingly

47:37

won their court case against the FTC. It

47:40

looks like that they're going to be allowed to

47:42

acquire Activision

47:43

Blizzard, TBD,

47:45

what this means for the UK. Some

47:48

people are theorizing they're going to sell off the

47:50

cloud gaming thing. It's like, hey, geniuses. Yeah,

47:52

this is how important cloud game is. We're

47:55

going to like sell it to Cadbury's or somebody

47:57

like Tesco. Like we don't

47:59

really care.

47:59

about it. It's gonna be another Brexit.

48:02

They're gonna have to reverse their decision. Yeah that was

48:04

just embarrassing. Hopefully somebody in like

48:07

the British politics

48:10

like gets a clue and are like Parliament. This

48:12

was ridiculous and really

48:14

dumb and made us look bad. I mean

48:16

not that there wasn't

48:18

a legitimate case

48:20

to be made for it but the

48:22

reasoning was so stupid. The reasoning was just

48:25

asinine. So yeah

48:29

lots of lots of interesting

48:31

stuff came out of this

48:33

case. I feel like these court cases are just

48:35

like the biggest thing of them. Same

48:37

thing with the epic versus Apple is stuff

48:40

that comes out legitimately

48:43

and then stuff that's also redacted badly.

48:45

Which there was there

48:47

was a lot of that we've already

48:49

probably talked about a bunch but

48:52

but yeah so that'll be interesting

48:55

to watch what that means. They did sign

48:57

a deal to

48:59

pledge that Call of Duty would come out

49:02

on PlayStation. I don't know. Was it

49:04

ten years or ten years? Just

49:06

Call of Duty. Okay right of course just

49:08

Call of Duty. The old deal had Activision

49:10

games. This new one has

49:13

just Call of Duty. Part of the stuff that you're just talking

49:15

about Mark though there's like emails that came out about

49:17

Bethesda who were kind of unhappy that

49:19

you know they were like not allowed to

49:22

do their stuff on other platforms

49:24

but then Activision was being given

49:26

like the okay. Oh I didn't see that. Yeah there's

49:28

mails from what's name Pete Hines.

49:30

Yeah just like they even

49:32

had two emails one was to

49:34

Phil Spencer

49:35

kind of politely asking and then another was like internal

49:37

like not as politely asking this thing like what you

49:39

know kind of what the fuck yeah but understandably

49:42

right I mean why did they get the special

49:44

treatment order? I mean some of the stats that came out about

49:47

Call of Duty those specifically were pretty mind-blowing

49:49

like like the percentage of people that don't

49:52

play another game except for Call of Duty.

49:55

In a given year it was some crazy

49:57

number I want to say it was in the 20s 20%

49:59

Uh, yeah, tier.

50:02

But anyway, um, also

50:05

game pass news. You want to talk about this core?

50:08

It's weird. So they got rid of games for

50:10

live gold or getting rid of Xbox

50:12

live gold. Becoming this Xbox game

50:14

pass core, which is what you do for multiplayer.

50:18

Uh, and they're including some

50:20

games. Which was what, like, what,

50:22

so there's ultimate and there

50:25

was gold. And then was there another

50:27

one before

50:28

up until now? No, ultimately

50:30

was the high level where you get everything. And

50:32

then it was like regular game pass. Hey, PC

50:34

game pass over on the left, Xbox on

50:36

the right. And then ultimate

50:37

and then ultimate on top. Oh, and

50:40

then gold was like in the middle. No,

50:42

gold was on the bottom. It was just Xbox

50:44

live, right? It was just like, you want to play online games,

50:46

but you don't want game pass. You pay for this, like a

50:48

really basic, uh, you know, entry level. So they're

50:50

just renaming it. Well, they're also adding games

50:53

to it now. 25 games too. Oh,

50:55

I see. I see. And then no longer though,

50:57

you don't get, you get access to games,

50:59

but you don't get games the way that you used to

51:02

with games. Yeah, there's no games with gold anymore. Where

51:04

you actually now you own the game,

51:06

even if they quote unquote, take it down.

51:07

Right. It's yours. You've got it. Okay.

51:10

September 1st is, uh, interesting. Did

51:12

they say what, like 25 games or something like that?

51:14

Like, yeah, Among Us is a big one. Doom Eternal

51:16

Fallout for a

51:18

lot of first party. I don't

51:20

think that's a terrible idea. I

51:22

don't know if I saw people complaining about it, but I mean, to

51:24

me, it's made kind of make sense to have an entry

51:27

level thing like that. Almost all of

51:29

these, except those inside human

51:31

fall flat Among Us.

51:33

Almost all of these are first party

51:35

though. Otherwise it's multiplayer. Interesting.

51:39

Yeah. Okay. Um, so that's

51:41

the thing now. Uh, one other bit

51:43

about Microsoft, uh, this came

51:45

out today, uh, or while we were

51:47

asleep,

51:49

so the initial deadline for this Activision deal

51:52

was July 18th, which has come and went, but

51:54

they announced, Hey, we negotiated a new deal.

51:56

They extended it to 18th of October. So

51:59

now.

51:59

If they fail to close, they will owe

52:02

Bobby Kotick, I think it's $4 billion? $4.5 billion?

52:06

There's two tiers. There's like, if we don't close it by

52:09

this time, the price will go up to three.

52:11

And we definitely, it's a lot of it. It's gonna happen

52:13

though, it's gonna happen. Oh yeah.

52:15

That was close.

52:17

One, two years off. So yeah,

52:19

my. Yeah,

52:21

so yeah, we each look at it. We determine all these stakes. You

52:24

may as well just give your stake to Mark

52:26

because we have the Elden Ring DLC thing

52:28

and it looks like I'm probably gonna lose that. Oh, remind

52:30

me, what was that? What was that one? Elden Ring DLC

52:33

this year or next year, I said this year because

52:35

I was operating under the assumption that Armored

52:38

Corps was gonna get delayed and it's not getting delayed.

52:40

There we go. Two stakes for

52:42

me. Yeah, Armored Corps, we're like a month out.

52:44

A month in the ish, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, the

52:47

hype cycle is about to

52:48

kick into full gear. The market's kind of too

52:51

crowded this year. I do wonder how that's gonna

52:53

impact that game. Like, people

52:55

are still playing Zelda, people are still playing Final Fantasy,

52:57

people are still playing Street Fighter, people are still playing Diablo

52:59

IV. Like, there's all these mega

53:02

huge games. Like, I get

53:04

that Armored Corps is cool and it's a thing, but I do wonder

53:06

if it's gonna get a little bit lost in sort

53:08

of the wave that's still kind of over. If anything's

53:10

gonna break through, I think it will be that. I

53:13

do think that this is a tough,

53:15

this is a tough fucking year for

53:17

games because after like some lean years,

53:20

like

53:21

this year has really brought it and they're like meaty,

53:23

giant experiences.

53:26

Or games that you can kind of play forever,

53:28

like Street Fighter or like Zelda. So

53:31

it'll be interesting. I mean, there's a lot of games in the fall too.

53:33

The fall is not a slouch this year. They

53:36

should have called it Armored Souls or something. I'm not even kidding.

53:39

Like, that would have actually made people pay attention to it. People

53:41

are getting the message though. You think so? Oh

53:43

yeah, yeah, yeah. If anything, I think people are

53:45

like, oh, what's this new, like,

53:47

the new front of the game. It's the new front

53:49

of the game. Never heard of this before. Yeah, yeah,

53:51

yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, all of those,

53:53

man, all the YouTube, I mean, that's

53:56

how they make their fucking money. So like

53:58

YouTube is about to just get fucking.

53:59

totally taken over. My algorithm

54:02

is about to explode. They're gonna start tripping trailers

54:06

and stuff and story shit and you

54:08

know all the lower people are gonna come out of the fucking

54:11

woodwork. Yeah it's gonna get sloppy.

54:15

Well you know who can't get sloppy Mark? Who?

54:17

Sakurai? Yuji Naka. Oh.

54:20

Because he's not going to prison?

54:22

Because he has been sentenced 30 months

54:25

in prison but it's been suspended for four years.

54:27

Yeah. For his very much I definitely

54:30

did insider trading, insider trading

54:33

court case. Oh did he admit?

54:35

Oh yeah. He was just like yeah I did

54:38

it. Okay. So he's been fined 1.2

54:41

million dollars and he didn't even make one

54:43

point. Dollars

54:43

or yen? 173 mil. I hope it's dollars

54:45

because that wouldn't be a lot of cash.

54:51

So yeah.

54:53

As long as he behaves over the next four years he won't

54:55

have to go to jail. But if he gets in any kind of trouble,

54:58

right into the slammer. Yep.

55:02

So if that Wonderworld Deluxe Edition

55:04

comes out we get to it. Alright Gabe. Alright.

55:06

Too soon. Too soon. Not thought through

55:09

totally. Not funny.

55:11

Not funny enough. Phew.

55:13

Not too soon if it was funnier.

55:16

Not as stuff as the valid Wonderworld. How are we on this time?

55:20

Let's see here. Is

55:23

Phoenix open to more Pixel remasters?

55:25

Is that because the Final Fantasy ones did so well?

55:27

Yes. Give me some more. There was an investor call

55:30

recently and someone straight up said I want

55:32

to play, oh was it Xeno? Xeno

55:34

what? Xenogears I'm sure. Yeah. That's

55:36

the only one Square Enix published. Yes. Like the

55:39

investor was like hey I would love to play a remaster of Xenogears

55:41

and they're like well based on the performance

55:43

of the Pixel remaster we are open to exploring.

55:45

Interesting. Was there anything else we would want them

55:48

to do? I was wondering if they wouldn't just do

55:50

the Dragon Quest next. Like Dragon Quest Pixel remasters.

55:53

That is happening. That is happening.

55:57

But they're also doing that like Octopath Traveler

55:59

HD 2.

55:59

like Dragon Quest 3 so I don't know like they might

56:02

that right I kind of would compete with that in a weird way. Chrono

56:04

Trigger. Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger

56:06

anything would be cool yeah. And...

56:09

So, Kudibana maybe? I don't know they've tried me making

56:11

that a few times. Never really works. Yeah.

56:14

So, John I think you've been on their

56:17

podcast but the the video

56:19

game history foundation... I have not been

56:21

on their podcast. Oh okay. Well they had

56:23

a story here saying 87% of

56:25

classic video games critically endangered

56:29

I know you actually care quite a bit about preservation.

56:32

Yeah well they said they did a

56:34

study and figured out that literally 87% of games are

56:37

not playable on like modern hardware right now. You basically

56:39

have to

56:40

either own the old hardware on the game or like

56:42

cheat you know like emulator whatever to play stuff

56:45

and they're saying that's kind of bullshit like imagine if like

56:47

you couldn't watch old movies anymore or whatever

56:49

without like having to resort to you

56:51

know stealing or whatever and it's a valid

56:53

point I mean it is I still think that

56:55

Sony has

56:57

kind of

56:58

it's crazy that you can't play every PlayStation game ever

57:00

on like the latest PlayStation like that should just be a thing

57:02

like it should be the library should just grow every

57:05

time and hopefully Nintendo does that from now on. Do

57:07

we think that anyone will not do that now

57:09

from now on like will anybody be

57:11

like nope we're just gonna cut... It

57:14

seems like a like a

57:15

like a vestige now that would never happen

57:17

again. I would hope so although I still

57:19

I'm not I'm not actually convinced that Sony

57:22

like Jim Ryan some of the stuff he has said about older

57:24

games still makes me wonder if he gets it or not but

57:26

I do think that like

57:28

as long yeah as long as there's no reason to

57:30

go do something crazy every game should be that

57:32

much compatible going forward. Yeah

57:34

hardware standards seem like they've moved more towards like

57:36

PC architecture as well for all the

57:38

systems.

57:40

Even like

57:42

Nintendo's are more like

57:44

in that vein rather than as

57:47

bespoke as before. I just think that

57:49

now

57:49

yeah if you don't do it you're like the real

57:52

outlier. I don't think you can get away with

57:54

it anymore. I think like no matter what you know Nintendo

57:57

is always going to have something or other on

57:59

their new hardware.

57:59

It's always been their thing and like even if they do even

58:02

if like now they finally do the donut hole We thought they were

58:04

gonna do last time or whatever like whatever they do

58:07

They're still gonna also make it possible. I feel like to play all

58:09

the previous gen stuff. They kind of have to have this I mean

58:11

everybody does I mean even definitely Microsoft

58:14

and Sony neither one and neither One of

58:16

them is gonna blink and give the other this

58:18

like huge

58:19

Marketing. No, totally. Why would you give up?

58:21

You have such a huge plus library

58:23

of games to play? Why would you suddenly just like it's

58:26

fucked up that they would do that though? It used to not

58:28

be I know remember there was a whole thing where I was

58:30

like, yeah, nobody really cares about Backwards

58:32

compatibility. Yeah, it's like well except

58:35

every single parent that is like what I

58:37

yeah all that shit that we've bought That's

58:40

worthless now. So and then now you're

58:42

buying it again Ten years later because

58:44

you're like I did kind of like that game. Oh,

58:46

guess what? We'll sell it back to you and there's a lot I mean

58:48

it's proven the given the prices of

58:50

old video games and stuff like it is

58:53

Obvious there is a huge market for people who

58:55

like older games like in the you know Yeah Play

58:57

them and loved them when you're a 10 Now you're 30 or 40

59:00

and you can afford to buy them again or the deluxe

59:02

edition or whatever and like that's never gonna change So

59:04

like the craziest and the craziest thing was

59:06

there was like in

59:07

the Wii era There was the idea that

59:10

oh even the old games that you buy

59:12

you're gonna buy them You're gonna play them on this

59:14

hardware and then not be able to play them on

59:17

the next time I can't believe that I still can't believe virtual

59:19

console was a crazy Only kind

59:21

of to generally thing that was so weird. Yeah, it's

59:23

really bizarre, but I think those days

59:25

are gone I don't I don't I don't see

59:27

not

59:28

Yeah, get away with that. We'll see speaking

59:30

of Nintendo Yes,

59:33

calm 40 years.

59:35

Yeah, right man midlife

59:37

crisis time Yeah, we were in what

59:40

you know on the morning of the 40th anniversary,

59:42

too Which is kind of cool. They didn't do much leading

59:44

up to it, right? But it was like boom the day

59:46

like right at the anniversary. They started Twitter

59:48

account Website

59:50

the whole bunch of stuff up there very much like

59:52

the some YouTube videos and stuff the design

59:55

the whole What would you call

59:58

it? I guess the campaign

1:00:00

art

1:00:01

design is very

1:00:03

much ripped out of the, what were those,

1:00:06

we were wondering if maybe they would bring

1:00:08

them back for, there was two games

1:00:11

that they put out. Oh, Famicom Remix. The NES Remix.

1:00:13

Yeah, very much in that vein, the colors and the

1:00:16

sprites and using all that kind of visual. I

1:00:18

think it would be a huge wasted opportunity not to

1:00:20

have those on Switch now too. Wouldn't they have announced

1:00:22

that though, if that was gonna happen? No, I think this is gonna

1:00:24

be a year long thing. I think we're gonna see, I mean,

1:00:27

again, this is purely me speculating, but

1:00:29

given past history and how stuff usually works in Japan,

1:00:32

I think we're gonna see announcements throughout the year. Well,

1:00:34

they did say like the YouTube series was, which

1:00:37

I have meaning to watch, I haven't watched yet, but

1:00:39

it's like the game shop, whatever,

1:00:41

volume one. And so I

1:00:43

didn't look too closely at the other stuff, but it did

1:00:46

seem like there was a bunch of stuff there. Yeah, it was actually

1:00:48

fun. I started watching that in the background and then I noticed they had like

1:00:50

trivia and stuff on it. I'm like, oh, I actually kinda wanna see

1:00:52

if I know this stuff and actually watch it proper. So I put

1:00:54

it aside and I'm gonna go back to it, but.

1:00:56

Well, happy birthday, family

1:00:58

comment. I wonder if in a way

1:01:00

we'll do something special.

1:01:02

They got two years ago, but yeah, maybe. Yeah, for the

1:01:04

NES. That bothered me too, IGN posted a

1:01:06

thing. Like the NES is 40 years old. It's like,

1:01:08

no, it's not, it's not at all. Like

1:01:10

they're two different pieces of hardware.

1:01:13

Sort of, yeah, but they're not even the same guts.

1:01:15

I mean, they're like slightly different. The

1:01:18

first question, so they have this like series of questions

1:01:21

they're asking people as part of this campaign. And

1:01:23

then they're also, remember the Zelda quiz, Tina, before

1:01:26

Tears of the Kingdom came out, they had these like cool, like

1:01:29

for like 30 minutes only, we're gonna do the Zelda quiz

1:01:31

thing. And then you like, in 30 minutes, you have

1:01:33

to finish the quiz. It's like an online thing. They're

1:01:35

gonna do that for the Famicom too. Wait, did you

1:01:37

win something or why is it limited? I think at

1:01:39

the end of the whole thing, so there was like

1:01:42

a number of them. At the end, the people with the

1:01:44

highest, highest score, your score

1:01:46

gets registered and the people with the very highest points

1:01:48

got, maybe they got some, I don't know, stickers.

1:01:50

I don't know what they got. Maybe to discourage cheating

1:01:52

or something, or just people just saying, hey, here's all the answers

1:01:55

or I'm just why. Well, it's in real time

1:01:57

and it's random. And so it's not

1:01:59

like, it's not like.

1:01:59

you could drive a game. You don't

1:02:02

have enough time to figure out all the answers

1:02:04

and then spread them around because they're different every time.

1:02:06

Really? Yeah. There wasn't enough time to just say

1:02:08

our Twitter.

1:02:08

The quiz starts at 2 PM, and you have to put in your

1:02:11

answers within 30 minutes, and there are 20 questions.

1:02:13

You probably could, but some of them were

1:02:15

so like. What kind of thing?

1:02:18

Like in Zelda, there was stuff

1:02:21

about like, you know. Like

1:02:23

recipes, for example. You had

1:02:25

to know what the food, the different items

1:02:27

were for like a very specific recipe or stuff.

1:02:30

Yeah, I guess you could look up all of them, but anyway.

1:02:33

They're doing that with the Famicom, and they also started

1:02:35

asking like questions. And their first

1:02:38

question was like, what was your first? What

1:02:40

was the first Famicom game you either bought

1:02:42

yourself or received like from someone

1:02:44

else? So

1:02:46

I

1:02:48

guess we could change it to NES,

1:02:50

but what was yours? What was your first NES game? Do you know?

1:02:52

Let's see. I mean, I got Mario

1:02:55

Brothers with my system.

1:02:57

Super Mario. Super Mario, but I think

1:02:59

Ice Climber, I think,

1:03:02

would have been the one. Because

1:03:04

basically then it was, OK, what do my friends

1:03:06

not have? What does nobody have? Because you're

1:03:08

all going to be swapping parts around. Probably

1:03:10

going to trade. So

1:03:13

Mach Rider actually was up

1:03:15

at the beginning too. Yeah,

1:03:17

not that great Mach Rider. No, it wasn't. But

1:03:19

that game was like interesting. It had a course

1:03:21

creator though. Yeah, well, it was because

1:03:23

I think in Japan it was a system. It was a different game.

1:03:25

It was interesting that like that game though, I

1:03:28

realized that game came out a couple of years before

1:03:30

the movie Akira. But

1:03:32

the sort of general aesthetic of the motorcycles

1:03:34

in that kind of reminded me of Akira. Oh, really?

1:03:37

I wonder if they were inspired by Mach Rider.

1:03:40

Mine was Mario Brothers, not Super. It was a

1:03:43

regular Mario Brothers. I knew I was

1:03:45

getting my Nintendo for Christmas in 87. I

1:03:47

begged and begged and they finally said OK. And

1:03:49

I had just enough money to buy one game. So I bought

1:03:51

that in like November. And then I just basically looked at the manual

1:03:53

for like 60 days until Christmas. That's

1:03:56

amazing. It was a special feeling too. Special

1:03:58

kind of torture.

1:03:59

Yeah, everything would you not as

1:04:02

a parent? I think about that sometimes because I

1:04:04

did the same with the Genesis box and looked at the back

1:04:06

like an altered beast

1:04:08

as a parent. Now, I can't imagine not

1:04:10

just being like, all right, look, you can play the

1:04:12

thing character. It does.

1:04:14

It really does. But you

1:04:16

had you played it in the arcade? Had you played Mario Brothers

1:04:18

in the. No, I don't really. I got that one.

1:04:20

I love Mario Brothers. I did. I

1:04:23

did like it. Yeah. I was very good at it, too.

1:04:25

I got that. And then like that Christmas, I

1:04:27

ended up getting like five or six different games.

1:04:29

I got Mario Zelda and like my brother, like

1:04:31

my brother, he's 10 years older than me and actually did have a job

1:04:34

of money. He's like, hey, let's go to Toys R Us. And he bought like three games.

1:04:36

Well, they all kind of stuff. But one of them

1:04:38

was out when you got your 87. And

1:04:40

he just came out. It had

1:04:42

just become like kind of widespread. It's not that it just came

1:04:44

out. It was out like for like a year. But

1:04:47

did you guys I guess

1:04:49

you're super Mario RPG. It's

1:04:51

like a game, but it's got a you said

1:04:53

Ness. It's

1:04:56

not an S game either. But, you know, oh, fuck

1:04:58

me. No, we didn't. We

1:05:00

actually didn't have a mess. We had we had

1:05:02

one. My parents bought one. Do you know what the

1:05:04

first game was that you you probably don't know what the first game that

1:05:06

the household had. The first game at the household had

1:05:08

would have been Super Mario Brothers and Duck Hunt,

1:05:11

right? The combo. OK. And my

1:05:13

mother was uncomfortable with the violence.

1:05:16

So she confiscated the gun. Oh,

1:05:19

so Duck Hunt was this weird, inaccessible

1:05:22

mystery where we would like load it up

1:05:24

and wonder what was supposed to. Like, what are we

1:05:26

supposed to do? She never let

1:05:28

you play it even. No. OK. So because

1:05:30

the duck just like flies around and then the dog

1:05:32

laughs. I mean, we're like, what are we supposed to be doing? We don't understand.

1:05:35

And I remember my dad telling us like,

1:05:38

why your mother doesn't want you to have the

1:05:40

gun. So, you know, that's you guys can't play

1:05:42

this game. But, you know, Mario is fun. And we

1:05:44

like

1:05:45

everybody in the house really stepping on. I

1:05:48

was going to say she was OK. And crushing, turning

1:05:50

the turtles, smashing them against the

1:05:51

wall. I think like holding a physical gun. Yeah.

1:05:54

It was a big stress. Totally. Yeah. At

1:05:56

some point, at some point, they changed the color of that thing. Yeah,

1:05:58

it was orange or whatever.

1:05:59

Yeah, it wasn't and um

1:06:02

in high school at my local Valley

1:06:05

Village. We just happened to find

1:06:07

One of the NES guns.

1:06:09

I was with my sister and we were like, oh

1:06:11

shit. Now's the time What do you think I

1:06:14

remember us being now is time. Do you think mom

1:06:16

will be pissed? Like do you think

1:06:18

like will she get mad at us and we were really

1:06:21

not doesn't we we're grown-ups now We can do

1:06:23

this and we bought it It was probably like ten

1:06:25

dollars or something and we bought it and took it

1:06:27

home and I was like Oh, hey, we have one of those

1:06:29

and she pulled it out of the attic. Holy

1:06:32

shit It was still in

1:06:34

the house that whole time. Wow.

1:06:36

Anyway, we played it for about three minutes. We were like wow

1:06:38

this

1:06:40

Is

1:06:43

okay Gumshoe was

1:06:45

interesting. There was some other Alley

1:06:48

was okay. It was a more arcade

1:06:50

games. Those guys are funny.

1:06:52

I had a good time with duck hunt. Yeah

1:06:54

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