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some really fun stuff that didn't make it into the rest

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of the episode like what episode the duma valeria

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and who's that may gore guy that was mentioned in the episode

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the only other thing i wanna mention is that during this conversation

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we talk about ratings for house of the dragon

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and the final ratings actually came out shortly after recorded

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this a warner brothers discovery revealed

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that around ten million viewers across

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both linear and h b across max tuned

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in to watch the first episode of house

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of house dragon which makes it makes biggest

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which b o series premiere in its history

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now it's still a little bit down from the game of thrones

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series finale which had around nineteen point three

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million viewers but a very strong start

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for house of the dragon anyway just wanted to

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offer that context before we get to this conversation

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enjoy hey everyone is

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a cast of kings this is a bonus

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segments for a cast of kings

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or follow up to episode one

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of season one the errors of the dragon i'm david

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chen i'm here with kim renfro a

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and typically these bonus episodes will only

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be available at decoding tv dot com but hey from time

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to time we might released one of the main feed like

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we are this time just to let people know what

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these bonus segments are going to be all about so

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we don't have a super from plan but in the

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case of this episode what it's gonna be is

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talking about a bunch of war that we didn't get

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to during the main episode of the podcast others

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the even though i thought our breakdown

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of episode one was pretty in depth

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there was a bunch of things that we didn't get

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the lot of these are mentioned during

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episode of get to talk about in depth of

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course there is or the

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the it you know there are few greater people

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in the world who are better equipped to talk about this thing can

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run for very

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happy to have are here with us today to talk

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about

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some of things that were mentioned the thought about them the doom

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of valeria with something those made him multiple

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times it is episode of get

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over hustle dragon

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yeah it kind of no surprise that target

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area and would still be frequently referencing

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what sometimes it's called the doom the

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duma very enough straight to the point

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is bad bad times and

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so the duma valeria is this the

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vents in history on planet

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shows where ss and lesser of

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are located am that george

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rr martin has not given a ton

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of detail about but we know that it was some

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sort of like had a cliff make

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of that and is how it's always described

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that there was some sort of like major

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disaster think of like the

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meteor striking earth until

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and all the diner

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or as type of thing

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that it would make a big extinction event that

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collapsed what was a very like thriving

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and sort of magical hub

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called valeria that's where the target audience or from

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that's also where ah houses

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illyrian who you know we talked about lord corliss

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illyrian their family also descends

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from the same area and

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the reason why it's so important to the tar

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gary and is because one

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of the target area in children who

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became known as deniz the dreamer i

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see actually had actually dream about

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this forthcoming cataclysmic

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event and convince her family

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to sleeve basically and

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at the time there were a ton

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of very like powerful the basically like dragon

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rider families in the area and

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the tar gary and leaving with sort of seen

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as like some sort of howard

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li abandonment of their home

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country like atlanta didn't understand

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and just to reestablish has kim so

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how long ago was this occurring in relation to the

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events as the drug hundreds

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and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

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of years houses dragon is hundreds of

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years before game of thrones doom of leery is hundreds

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and hundreds of years before that and the the

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demo valeria basically reference in the episode

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primarily when

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the service was talking to his daughter in euro

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at the end right he's talking about the doom

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that happened long time ago their it

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yeah and basically says like we don't

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wanna repeat

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like bad history of july have a repeat

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of the doom cannot a repeat of the room over again

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the yeah it was a bow i'm

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doing the math now again it was about up over the

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little over a hundred years before egg on

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conquest which means that at the timeline run the

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dragon it's two hundred years ago

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from wanting the thera is talking about it

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with rainier

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and

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yeah deniz the dreamer had

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this vision that the doom what happened

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that are gary and left in they went to dragons down

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which is you know the little

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stronghold off the coast of western owes

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and like reestablish themselves they're basically

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and then i think it was about ten or twelve years

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after they had left valeria then

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the doom happened and basically

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that means that like

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that is why the series

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is in such a diehard believer

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in his own dreams and prophecy beliefs

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right because to though to the target area

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in line that whole family line

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they feel like yes

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we absolutely are capable of having prophetic

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dreams that will come true because it happened with

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the doom and their survival of the

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doom was extremely pit of a pivotal

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because now they're pretty much them and

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the valerian are the only ancient

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houses left from that area

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of the world who have dragons so

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like it's very special to that

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to that managed to escape the doom

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of malaria and now established this incredible

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dynasty

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investors who this explains

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yeah why the sarah's might have been so

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from in his idea what he's gonna have a son or

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like rape because because he come from

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a line of people that has predicted things in

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the past basically

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also if you really we did we

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also didn't get too much into this it at all on

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our pod in our main pod but on

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his

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stream happened

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the

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the way that he's describing it obviously

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a lot more positive

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that like

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the agree he was writing that elite have a son

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he's

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the have a son and there were like

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swords crashing and everything

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happening at the same time because this tourney

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was going on so like it's kind

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of an example of the way that george like select flight

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and prophecies that sometimes come true but

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in like the worst way

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imaginable to george basically love

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the idea of monkey paw asks

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with is coming true innovation and it's gonna come

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true but in the most painful

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horrifying way imaginable yeah

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it like danny is pregnant danny's pregnancy

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with cauldron though is up another perfect

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example of that ray were like she's promise

6:42

something and then she technically gets

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what she wants but it's awful so

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the elyria survived

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his or it now the doom know they

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didn't survive but now people that survive the

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yes

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they can believe it or gary ends and the valerian

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spite

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like the i see okay yeah yeah this i'm saying is like

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valeria as a place did not

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survive now the valerian people

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did survive and that's why we have

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corliss is valerian you said right valais

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i'm also the

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idea of like valerian steel right come

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from

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the language of high valerian that's

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one again we

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didn't talk about this in the main photos as i am so happy we

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a bonus segments or another

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thing i lot about some sort of showing dame and and

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rainier as speaking to each other and valerian

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and clearly it's like they can talk in that

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language in front of most other people because

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very few people speak it fluently

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and so it's like that

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intimate relationship that they have where they can

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speak valerian to one another

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and dragons respond to valerian

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command such would require a says it's

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a valerian word for fire

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okay the that is the duma valeria

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which is reference at the end of a pass the dragon up

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someone

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moving along the timeline there

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is a scene in the house the dragon

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episode one when rainier and else and

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are memorizing their history and they discuss princess

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di maria and i

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think it's rainier oh that's has called princess di maria

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lead her roy in our across

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the narrow sea on ten thousand ships to

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flee their valerian pursuers she

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took lord more as martell of dorn to has

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been and burned her own fleet of son spear

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to show her people they were finished running and so

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what so what's going on there came with

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a little about

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yeah so i thought the

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prefers any time that there

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is like fake book

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within a story i'm always curious

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about like why did they pick that one so with

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this the and i was like why are they reciting that's like

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little offhanded piece of history about nigeria

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before we get into the details of that the just the

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the metre reason why i think that came up

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is because night night

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myriad story and they're calling at ten

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thousand ships which they directly quoted

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in this episode i'm is one

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of the a prequel ideas that is

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currently in development at h b o

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and so it's like they're doing a little russian

9:09

nesting doll of the prequels

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stories of like okay within the first prequels

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we're gonna mention my marissa

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and her impressive fleet of people

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and then it is entirely possible

9:21

depending on how the how the stages

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go for these shows that like down the line

9:26

we could have the actual

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tv show of name area

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launch in her ships and so yeah i'm

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not only is his name area you

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know rainier gives us a sort of summary

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of yup her major accomplishments

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ah and they merely as a kind of like a a

9:43

pretty big legendary character within

9:46

strauss and so that's why are you start many

9:49

many years later names her diary

9:51

the myriad because it's after this exact

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character of

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like very strong

9:56

female leader who did

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what she had to do and came to

10:00

strauss and

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and rules

10:03

she explained that the

10:05

or he explained that when she named your know your or a

10:07

or i feel it's you can we just pulled the name out but then now

10:09

we understand where it's from his or it

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yeah she might have said

10:13

something about it but it was definitely

10:15

the be understood that she was naming it after like one

10:17

of her idols basically

10:21

so speaking

10:24

of the future spin offs for

10:26

a game of thrones the

10:28

deadline reported that house

10:31

the dragon pulled into point six million us

10:33

households

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which is the highest seen

10:36

they viewership

10:38

the have any premium cable or screaming preet

10:40

premier in twenty twenty two wow

10:43

i'm so that does seem to be like a very

10:45

positive

10:46

the

10:48

development i don't think it's quite at

10:50

the level of

10:52

the game of thrones in it's like at it's height

10:55

way and

10:57

obviously like swimming is mostly gritty there was no he to

10:59

your max back then or ethnic that i'm

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screaming is much bigger deal today but

11:04

from a streaming perspective it

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does seem like as the dragon did pretty

11:08

well and

11:11

so we'll see no as we're recording

11:13

this there has been no announcement

11:15

a season two renewal yet as far as be no at

11:18

no and something interesting

11:20

that i remember from back in the game

11:22

of thrones season one premier

11:24

days that i read about is that

11:26

i wanna say that their viewership was one point

11:29

nine million for the first episode

11:31

something that an that b o executive said

11:34

the

11:35

was that it wasn't so much that initial episode

11:37

that they look that it was the second up

11:39

the road

11:40

that their had there was such a

11:43

unusual dramatic

11:45

spike in viewership from episode one

11:48

to to

11:49

that he immediately knew that it was like great

11:52

were gold that like that that's pretty rare

11:54

and so i think not only it again

11:56

to so much has changed like you said with streaming not only

11:58

will it be

11:59

the thing

11:59

to see what the total

12:02

viewer numbers are for episode one but if that changes

12:05

from one to two because i don't know i've already talked

12:07

to people today who said that that child

12:10

seen made them not wanna watch the rest

12:12

of the show and , was like yeah fair

12:15

yeah i did do a

12:18

very extremely unscientific

12:20

informal poll on my twitter account yesterday

12:23

i said or did you watch the season

12:25

from your house the dragon h b house and

12:27

my options were yes thrones is back

12:30

nope never again maybe i'll catch it later

12:33

and house of the what those before us so

12:37

, one yesterday back to

12:39

thousand people voted in this poll the

12:41

over two thousand people fit forty seven percent

12:44

said yes turns his back seven

12:46

percent says nope never again thirty

12:48

eight percent said maybe i'll

12:50

catch it later and six point

12:53

five percent as house of the what so who

12:56

and and a you do i did get a bunch of commons of

12:58

people saying hey you should have

13:00

put a yes option but with less enthusiasm

13:03

or yes i saw it but not thirds

13:06

as bad yes i saw because i had do

13:08

or whatever or die yes no

13:13

fire it's is no qualifiers it

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, worth noting that according

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to new york post the

13:21

two point six million households that are being reported

13:23

who turned into the premier is

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more than double the

13:28

number of a stranger things which was

13:30

widely regarded as regarded massive phenomena though

13:35

one point two million households for stranger

13:37

things it's a fourth season premiere

13:39

earlier this summer according to new york post dot com

13:42

so i'm take that for

13:44

what it's worth they

13:46

oh interesting with like the bench i

13:48

would not be surprised that significant number

13:51

of maybe not that i would not be present

13:53

a number of people are waiting

13:55

until their eyes the episodes that they girls

13:57

watch back to back to back as opposed to with

13:59

the later the game of thrones we

14:01

were in territory with that story where it was

14:03

like if you don't watch it live you're gonna wake

14:05

up and get spoiled unlike major

14:08

developments in the series where is that doesn't

14:10

really have that urgency to it was

14:13

because we already theoretically cortical know over

14:15

developments really right

14:19

so we stranger things one point two million and

14:21

also for comparison ob one kenobi two

14:23

point one four million in may so

14:26

two point six

14:27

the t pretty strong and

14:30

we'll see how things

14:32

evolve

14:33

right back to

14:35

the lore tsunami are we decided by nemyria

14:37

and kind of what name area story was

14:39

the

14:41

then why do which house was

14:43

name area from do you recall i didn't

14:46

ask you this is as i'm sorry can

14:47

okay so she was a

14:49

she was a princess of

14:51

in norwich

14:52

you you know that's one of the

14:56

herm that is used show

14:58

when

15:00

the neera is talking about

15:01

marble anywhere near as like quoting are like citing

15:04

her whatever for history's for the

15:06

people

15:06

and so like join our is

15:09

an area of the world that was conquered

15:12

hi the valerian the hold back

15:14

and it's like height of power and so

15:17

she'll a leader of the rain are which is basically

15:19

just like a name for this group of people's

15:22

and so she wasn't eight

15:24

her gary and

15:28

i'm reading my notes now just make sure you're

15:31

okay as it got it will be i'm

15:33

asking just asking like she's not like directly connected any

15:35

vows we know as far as far as as were aware

15:37

right

15:40

the

15:41

the side like dorn like her

15:44

mom of her

15:46

the

15:48

the as she basically after her

15:51

ten thousand ship them she set sail other

15:53

part the story there which i guess i should mention

15:55

part of the sorry right she

15:58

arrived in door her ten thousand

16:00

ship like a sort of like ragtag bunch of

16:03

the ways to save her people

16:06

and then once they landed she burned all of those

16:08

ships to symbolize that like they

16:10

would never run again and that like all

16:12

of those people are now home so

16:14

she's part of the origin story of dorn

16:17

becoming a like robust

16:19

kingdom and westroads and as

16:21

you

16:21

they remember from

16:23

the aim of thrones like door and was the

16:25

last area of westroads to

16:28

actually concede that it was part of the of

16:30

all of the seven kingdoms i'm

16:33

and so that's where like where legacy

16:35

plays and is like the power of house martell

16:38

so over and martell and the sands

16:40

it's an older characters from door and they're

16:42

the ones who have like an ancestral connection

16:45

gone princess to know you know maria was the

16:47

westboro cn cortez

16:49

pretty much is

16:52

i'm going to a little more beloved to mount

16:56

vernon

16:57

photo the courthouse a ten thousand ships but i'm not

17:00

sure about that shit okay the

17:02

ago make or so the

17:05

gore is somebody who had was talked

17:07

about multiple times in the episode

17:10

in dark sinister tones

17:12

as though we can never go back

17:15

to the way it was would make or was running the place

17:17

right pretty much yeah and it was

17:19

like met met his character dame and

17:21

he might be like a make or as figure when

17:24

would make or him renfro so

17:26

made or

17:27

the king before king to

17:29

harris who just harris is who we see

17:31

and like the opening of how your

17:33

dragon pilot if

17:36

we talked about your harris had been overseeing

17:39

a rule of peace for about sixty years that

17:41

rule of peace began with may

17:44

gore's death basically because make

17:46

or ah he

17:48

was he was cruel and violence

17:51

target area in he actually kind

17:53

of he claimed the the iron throne

17:55

for himself five

17:58

the storm minute the king's landing

18:01

with malaria in the black dread the

18:03

bulgarian is that

18:05

massive dragon we see that his skull

18:07

that's like the skull that the

18:10

ferris and ring they are standing in front

18:12

of when they talk about the whole prophecy that bulgarian

18:14

skull valerian of

18:16

one of the original dragon said aegon

18:18

the conqueror use to

18:21

come and commandeer all of western

18:23

us and so make or kind

18:25

of like inherited

18:27

like make or and now the person writing on bulgarian

18:30

but he uses that dragon and all

18:32

of his power to basically kill

18:34

anybody who might stand up

18:36

against him or criticize him or imply

18:38

anything

18:39

i'm when he

18:41

claimed iron throne only one person

18:43

kind of dare the protest and he very

18:45

promptly executed them so

18:47

further them out

18:49

they really

18:50

it really did not

18:52

do like make it easy for us in terms

18:55

of the names i have to say allow i

18:57

keep your your am sure that you're hearing

18:59

the like a one second pause for i'm like

19:02

fair enough to

19:05

make make or road make dragon

19:07

called bulgaria a

19:11

and ruled like really

19:13

terribly and brutally basic

19:15

he was

19:17

during his time

19:19

the faith militants who again you might

19:21

remember from their the same

19:23

price right yeah in

19:26

in game of thrones the faith militant becomes

19:28

militant issue again so the faith militant was

19:31

the problem

19:32

when make or took over and he

19:34

solve that problem by just massacring

19:36

people

19:36

though there was like seven hundred

19:39

warrior if you were like praying

19:41

and fight of like effectively a temple and he

19:43

just burns it's an

19:45

all and have like folders waiting outside to

19:47

slaughter anybody who tried to run

19:49

that was pretty fun

19:51

the

19:52

there's another enemy where he cut all of his

19:54

arms and legs off but said we're going to keep you alive

19:56

to that you can attend my wedding

19:59

the

20:00

the why

20:01

he had three wives at the same

20:04

time

20:05

which would like

20:06

pretty frowned upon

20:07

by

20:09

he kind of pulled away

20:11

trump in the white house move i'm just chilling

20:13

every sector

20:15

who refuse to do it would start at what's

20:17

that what's it called third saturday night massacre

20:21

in the holiday

20:23

ah ok i'm going

20:25

okay i'm going on at handed here but they're just

20:28

there were there are examples of weird basically

20:30

like

20:31

firing

20:33

the however they want

20:35

fire until they find the man who will do what they want

20:37

and to that

20:38

what make or did in a much more extreme

20:40

fictional bloody way where heat of you

20:42

the every captain who refused to marry him

20:44

to a third wife until he found someone who would

20:46

agree

20:47

the

20:48

he about the responsible for building

20:51

most of the red keep which is like

20:52

the main castle we're all the tiger and felt

20:55

live in

20:55

it was under contract

20:57

when he took over for the crown but he basically

20:59

like put everything put construction the hyperdrive

21:02

and he specifically

21:04

the wind a lot of passage ways

21:06

and like booby trap within the walls

21:09

and underneath the castle

21:10

the that people could

21:12

the around

21:13

monitor theory where he could just speak around

21:15

and when it was finished

21:18

he threw a party for

21:20

all the people who had worked on it feasted them

21:22

for three days

21:23

and then killed all of them

21:25

though that nobody would know the secret

21:28

of all the

21:29

the old and stuff inbred keep except

21:31

for him in theory

21:34

wow

21:35

yeah you're here we've gotten through my bullet points

21:38

years really feels like a character

21:40

that yours or mine is like with let's have fun

21:42

with the super the super dude

21:44

you know that

21:45

for sure he also

21:47

i think

21:49

in the line of of kinda and general

21:51

it's interesting that he was one who the

21:53

fight having three wives never managed

21:55

to have a child and so like

21:58

you can kind of do the math there there was probably

21:59

the wrong with not for the wrong he

22:02

would probably several which is like reportedly

22:04

one time in the real world but if you're king

22:06

pretty bad if you're supposed to be firing airs

22:09

of course he doesn't take responsibility

22:11

for that are no one dared thing like hey maybe

22:13

something wrong with your swimmers

22:16

said he took that

22:18

on his wife who were failing to bear

22:20

him a child

22:21

one of his wife queen

22:23

alice

22:24

they get out

22:25

the local love doing that ran like it's a l

22:28

y

22:29

they probably just pronouns

22:30

our yes

22:35

she finally got pregnant and

22:37

so yeah green alice

22:39

got pregnant and had a still birds and then

22:41

in the aftermath of that make or was so upset

22:44

someone eventually told him like oh she's been

22:47

having other men come to her chambers

22:49

when you're not around to sleep with her

22:51

to try and get her pregnant and that

22:53

really pissed them off she killed her

22:55

entire family and then him

22:58

and one of his other wives together

23:01

tortured her for like two weeks it's

23:03

one of those lines in the book for like george won't even

23:05

say what happened because it's like it's

23:07

too awful to recounts but like

23:09

that she was basically

23:11

there for two weeks and then finally

23:13

died and make or was there the whole time

23:15

watching her suffer simply because

23:18

he couldn't get her pregnant

23:20

properly

23:21

so what

23:24

i've met him what happened to me your so

23:27

make or it

23:27

died he only ruled he was only

23:29

king for six years and six days

23:32

it says on the book even though he achieved so

23:34

much bloodshed in that short period

23:36

of time i'm and he died under

23:38

kind of mothers' circumstances the last

23:40

account that anyone has of seeing him alive

23:42

he was in the throne room by himself

23:45

seated on the iron throne and he

23:47

was later found with like his arms

23:50

sliced open and his like

23:52

head shoved through one

23:54

of the many blades on the

23:55

iron throne

23:56

and so it's like the word

23:59

you leave that open

23:59

the be like did he

24:01

the i by suicide because he

24:03

finally decided that he didn't wanna be king anymore

24:06

it's did someone use one of the secret passageways

24:08

that he himself had built to like enter

24:11

the room unseen and then kill him

24:14

we're not really sure or like the

24:16

the the other thing presented which we did talk

24:19

about in the main pod was his idea that the iron

24:21

throne almost has

24:23

like the

24:25

ability to the hurt

24:27

a king that isn't worthy to sit upon

24:29

it so like the fact that he literally died

24:31

by the blades of all of like this chair it's like

24:34

did he just like accidentally that himself

24:36

and wind up bleeding too much that

24:38

seems unlikely but it ties into the

24:41

the point that we talked about the house the dragon pilot

24:43

episode where we see the serious

24:46

cut his little finger it's a it's a minor cuts

24:48

but it's basically it's basically bad omen

24:51

if the iron

24:52

don't ever draws blood from a king

24:54

who is sitting upon him

24:55

you don't remind me of honestly

24:58

the euro see that movie diehard

25:00

one the original diehard yeah this

25:03

is movie where if is is moment when like they're

25:06

sending in like be swat guys even

25:08

and one of them like pricks his

25:10

finger or something on a rosebush

25:13

like there who knew like problem is how like

25:15

he's like in a

25:18

sec what it was interesting moment including

25:20

their which is basically like it's better signified

25:22

you that davies officers

25:25

are completely ill equipped

25:27

for the threat ahead of them who i

25:30

thought your guy like the landscape is fighting

25:32

back ray romano

25:34

so similar vibe to move i've with the bruins like

25:36

pokemon i'm back basic totally totally

25:39

so he dies childless after six years ruling

25:41

and then kings harris take

25:45

that was what third to harris's relationship

25:47

to make or

25:48

i want to say he's like a nephew

25:50

let me double

25:51

that video cases years takes over

25:53

and then rules for a long time and then

25:55

by the end of his role that's the for a scene of

25:57

this ah yes as the dragon

25:59

so to harris of basically responsible

26:02

for having to like tidy up

26:04

this like amount of blood

26:05

that have been happening in the realm

26:07

the that's where a bigger

26:10

sort of meager

26:10

yeah and his nickname was make or the cruel

26:13

though when anyone makes an

26:16

allusion to the fact that dame

26:18

and might be another make or

26:20

they are making a clear

26:22

line between his violent

26:24

tendencies and the violent tendencies

26:26

of make or and

26:28

assuming that would make for a bad

26:30

king

26:32

right

26:34

so those are the stories of the

26:36

duma valeria di maria and make

26:38

or which were off handedly references house the dragon

26:40

episode one but we didn't really

26:42

get very they were really discuss in depth and

26:44

we the million so but during the podcast

26:47

anything else you wanna you wanna mention

26:49

about the episode one that we didn't have a chance to

26:51

get to game what effect

26:52

i mean the one other thing

26:54

i do still keep kind of like mulling

26:57

over the whole the

26:59

bombshell drop of like the a song of ice

27:01

and fire the dream that

27:04

aegon apparently had that led him

27:06

the west rose and i know you had mentioned it's

27:08

like it is kind of ah

27:11

almost like saccharin

27:12

the title for that for

27:15

like this dream right like all with called

27:17

a song of ice and fire

27:20

there's my impression again thanks

27:22

this is my voice is very flattering

27:24

impression of me this time

27:26

you that was of the serious

27:28

yeah i've gotten

27:30

, guy were i thought you were impersonating

27:32

me impersonators the fairest now

27:36

okay sorry i only do that voice or six

27:38

people in my head

27:39

that well i'm

27:42

but it is interesting because that

27:44

is not even though like the rebels

27:46

the about a gone

27:48

new like the fact that he had this dream

27:51

the idea that the phrase aside

27:53

the ice and fire

27:55

in inherently connected to

27:57

a prophecy about the white walkers

28:00

does exist within the bucks and

28:02

and it also kind of has to do with dreaming

28:05

the books when the

28:07

nearest go to the house of the undying that's

28:10

that plays they wouldn't see them to

28:13

right where are her dragons

28:15

were stolen from her and she had to go

28:17

and find them and the place where she goes and finds

28:19

them as called the house of the undying and

28:21

she basically like sees a bunch of visions

28:23

and they they brought a lot of those visions to

28:25

life in the show but in the

28:27

books there's one part that wasn't included

28:29

in the show where she sees

28:32

regard her gary i'm who was her older

28:34

brother who she never met in

28:36

real life because he died before she

28:38

was born regard

28:41

her gary with a baby basically

28:44

talking about like he

28:46

said his is the song of ice and fire

28:48

and implies that this

28:50

the old is going to be

28:51

the prophesied hero who will com

28:54

and prevent like a long night from happening

28:56

again i'm we

28:58

don't know in the books if that child

29:00

is

29:01

supposed to be

29:03

jon snow i don't think it is it's

29:05

probably has other son aidan who was also

29:08

murdered also another a gun

29:10

they are they really love

29:12

the name and gotten just by

29:14

one of you is george rr martin specific with yeah

29:17

at their the for if

29:20

so i just again it's it adds

29:22

like this like layer of like

29:25

okay is john supposed

29:27

to be the target the in who that the center of that

29:29

is at john and any combined when

29:32

and how does aria come into play slash maybe

29:34

she just straight up doesn't in george rr martin's

29:36

head and he's choosing to like have

29:39

house of the dragon sort of like tweet

29:41

the can end of this robin mean sounds

29:44

i just wanted to mention that as one more little

29:46

like book nod that you wouldn't have

29:48

known if you had only watched

29:50

with round

29:52

or it will thank you kim are

29:54

all fascinating stuff and gray background

29:56

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29:58

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