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that i haven't been spoken oh

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okay what else are we

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got a couple of other announcements and some emails

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to go over before we get to our recap of

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season one episode two

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i do have a a

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major announcements about

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house of the dragon which is that it's been

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renewed for season two already

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long last week in the bonus episode can

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renfro about how

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house of the dragon is

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h b o biggest premier

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the in terms of ratings ever

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right like they have not had a higher premier

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inn or more popular premier so that

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was pretty notable in and of itself in

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itself shows that this show has

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the thing to staying power and obviously warner

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brothers discovery has lot invested lot invested sure

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that this thing continues

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to spit out more seasons and more so

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for many years to come so

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how do you feel about the has the dragons is to

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give you said

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yeah i was excited to see that

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that happened so quickly i was not expecting

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them so renew it after just

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one episode but clearly

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people came back and i think that

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we talked about you that like i mean viewing

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specific numbers aside i think like the general

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vibe or on the fandom was like an

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almost instant revival the

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the classic game of thrones days so i'm excited

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that this means that we get to do this for so much longer

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i think the vibe i've seen in terms

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of meme some sites is begrudging

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re acceptance ah you

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know what it's like a lot of people felt burned by

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like it but not necessarily in like a

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better way to slake right i'm back on board

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like before the season began about how there

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was probably like some kind of red phone there

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are there waiting for the ready to come in and as a

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exciting exciting kim those

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who it is and say a

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she's keeping it under her had like a like

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spoilers for rest of the house the dragon the alright

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kim a before we get to this

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episode we got some emails to cover

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and why don't we start actually

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at the cutting the v dot com vincent rights

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vincent com it's only ten minutes into this episode

7:41

but talking about last week's episode but i couldn't

7:43

help but think of george rr martin's recent comments

7:46

about wishing there were more seasons of the original show

7:49

it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth from to say

7:51

that now and i hope the so dismissive distances

7:53

itself from him in general hope you guys talk about

7:55

that at some point and then i responded then

7:58

what you time of it's it and he says quote my

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understanding is that when game of thrones the show was

8:03

frisbee made it was george rr martin who demanded

8:05

that season that one season equals one book

8:07

with the shared or implicit or explicit

8:09

knowledge that he would have enough time to

8:12

at least get one other book out if not the rest

8:14

of the books by the time the so caught up obviously

8:16

that didn't happen and now the show has been

8:18

over in the world has collectively roasted wasn't

8:20

benioff for so long it just feels like mark

8:23

martin is switching sides and putting more blame on h

8:25

b o in the show runners when he's at least partially

8:27

responsible for how things turned out he's made

8:29

little to no progress of getting the rest the books outs of

8:31

for him to retroactively act like the show did his books a

8:33

disservice by not having of seasons is pretty

8:36

unfair in my opinion that's just my two cents

8:38

based on what i know maybe my understanding so politics

8:40

is wrong i'm also speaking purely somehow be regional

8:42

show have never read the books and so

8:45

kim i thought i'd ask you like you

8:47

have knowledge and experience

8:49

of like how george rr martin is being associated

8:52

with the show the house talking about this new show

8:54

i guess i wanted to get your take on what

8:56

you thought of a sculptor is a sin and

8:59

to surf ultimate stopping general

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yeah i don't think that isn't

9:03

entirely correct summary of

9:05

kind of how everything went down

9:08

my understanding is that there was no like

9:10

explicit or even like implicit

9:13

agreement that one book would equal

9:15

one season of the show

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i think

9:20

my understanding of that you know george met up with benioff

9:23

and ways

9:24

then

9:26

what i'd want to say two thousand each other nine

9:29

ah yeah had books for

9:31

unfinished when they made the agreement here

9:34

he sold those rights over the h b o

9:36

and handed off the so to benioff and wise

9:38

and while like they were more than happy to

9:41

continue having meetings with ham invite him for like

9:43

cameos he was writing when script

9:45

per season he really didn't

9:47

have any like clear creative control

9:50

over the decisions that were being made so

9:53

i think there's a lot more new the

9:55

the conversation then people usually tend the

9:57

give it my understanding is that

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the

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the time went on and george was not finishing

10:03

the winds of winter it became pretty clear that

10:05

the show was catching up to his written material

10:07

faster than he thought that

10:10

word like i know he was

10:12

a little bit taken off guard by like

10:15

the sort of com combining of certain story

10:17

lines are completely eliminating other characters

10:19

like lady stone heart is a pretty like famous

10:22

example of that of catlin sorry

10:24

who's to resurfaces

10:27

and the books i'm and

10:29

just never did on the show and like little things

10:31

like that things know that he was

10:34

he didn't realize that they were going to sort of like

10:36

streamline everything the way they did and

10:38

then everything just became super complicated

10:40

when he realized like okay i need to really

10:42

focus on these books he saw that finish the box

10:45

ah

10:46

then benioff and weiss you

10:49

, started kind of like making up their own ending

10:51

because they had to because george didn't have

10:53

the like the full detailed road map laid out

10:56

and so with house of the dragon it's like it's understand

11:00

people might feel however they feel about the way that george's

11:02

the sort of being a little bit more open about

11:04

like what his expectations had been and how

11:07

that didn't quite have are aligned with game

11:09

of thrones and now with house the dragon

11:11

his way more involved

11:15

he isn't writing scripts for this

11:17

show but he seems to have a much

11:19

more like direct relationship with ryan

11:21

pond all i'm who's the

11:23

kosher under his more in charge of all the writing he

11:25

wrote this episode he wrote the pilot and

11:30

yeah i don't i don't know people can feel however

11:32

they want to feel about george are not here to tell anybody

11:34

that but i also just tend to have a lot more empathy

11:37

for everybody involved because like

11:39

what was supposed to be an adaptation of

11:41

of finished book series wound

11:43

being an adaptation of a very

11:45

unfinished book series and that already

11:47

brought up a lot of negativity for like everybody

11:50

involves betty often wife themselves also didn't

11:52

sign up to make up their own ending

11:54

of the show they sausage george would have

11:56

the book finish by the time they got there so

11:59

yeah and i

12:02

think i'm very torn

12:04

about my feelings on the final season of game of thrones

12:07

on the one hand i thought it was collette

12:09

like catastrophic in from a plot

12:12

in story hotel perspective that's my opinion i know

12:14

you don't share notes and

12:16

on the on the other hand

12:19

i think that if

12:22

you watch the documentary of the misery

12:24

models even remember what it's called that it's it's available

12:26

on h b o two they made like and sixty

12:28

to ninety minute documentary it's

12:31

really well done

12:32

yeah and

12:34

one of the things that is very clear

12:36

from the documentary is how much

12:38

freaking work their final season took because

12:40

there is like multiple episode

12:43

of just like the whole episode as a

12:45

massive set piece right like yeah multiple

12:47

episodes and which that happened

12:50

then you get a sense like these people are done

12:52

like they can they have given

12:54

their all for the show they can't do anymore

12:56

for the show and physically

13:00

you see you sent like how physically

13:02

exhausting it was to make the show yeah

13:04

and so even though i think the

13:07

consumer i'm like oh i wish there were double

13:10

the number of episodes of they could like resolve these points

13:12

in a satisfactory way as

13:14

a human being the

13:17

and somebody who is tangentially could

13:19

connected to a knowledgeable but the industry

13:21

i felt like wow they

13:23

probably give us the best they could and and that's all we

13:25

can expect you know so at

13:28

were torn about

13:28

some yeah and i would

13:30

the only thing is clear is that set the george

13:32

rr martin is really involved with passes

13:34

dragon and like that will be that

13:37

seems like it's gonna continue for a while is my son

13:39

yeah it sort of feel like he

13:43

over the course of game of thrones happening

13:45

the unfolding way they did it like she learned a lot of lesson

13:47

throughout his it seemed like he learned lessons about

13:49

his his preference of how much creative

13:51

control and and put he has over

13:54

a property that has adapted from his work

13:56

and syndrome is approaching house of the dragon differently

13:58

than he did with game of thrones

13:59

now he knows how

14:02

hands on he would like beavers is not

14:04

from the very outset

14:06

him right

14:09

will thank you for that comment vincent lots to think

14:11

about their i

14:14

wanted to read an email from

14:16

chris who writes into a cast of

14:18

kings at gmail dot com or this

14:21

this excerpt from christmas email he's he says quote

14:24

i really bummed on the melee frisell

14:27

cause ah i don't really

14:29

really to send a phrase i really bummed on

14:31

the melee because it sounds like he

14:33

chris is not a fab i've never heard that terminology before

14:35

it a little that's what the kids are saying these

14:38

days him but anyone more

14:40

maybe i have no idea don't have any way

14:42

chris rates chris really bump on the melee the turn

14:44

of the storytelling device i think the whole segment

14:46

kind of work to the rainiest noting the pent up aggression

14:49

from years of peace and the cross cutting with

14:51

m as labour seen returning to her comment

14:53

earlier in the episode about how men and women have different

14:55

battlefields however , kind

14:57

of brutal melee seems like a terrible way to maintain

14:59

political stability it is one thing

15:01

to see your son or nephew unhorsed in joust

15:04

or yielding one on one combat it

15:06

is another thing to have his face exploded by

15:08

morningstar out expect nobleman

15:10

to come up with something doesn't that doesn't result in multiple

15:12

grizzly deaths that only served to create

15:14

generations lung blood zero and

15:17

honestly i think we could have done both seems of was gore

15:19

my wife made us jump through the whole thing because it was so

15:21

terrible i think it is possible to communicate

15:24

the horrors of that actually showing them so graphic that

15:27

that have occurred to me as well like wow

15:30

if visa if like high power his son

15:32

might die in this you know it

15:34

feels like this tournament is

15:36

actually creating more problems than it's solving

15:39

it

15:40

yeah

15:41

i i i that's a fair point

15:44

i think think interesting i saw someone

15:46

point out the difference between robert

15:50

overseeing the tourney and season one a game

15:52

of thrones vs king but there is cause

15:55

in game of thrones wayne

15:58

attorney turned violence believe

16:00

it am the mountain

16:03

right started attacking lloris

16:05

ser loras around and like the hound had to step

16:08

step in and they were fighting and it seemed like this was going to

16:10

be a fight to the death and like camera what kind of ends up

16:12

in is like in the name of you're taking the

16:14

saab i'm and

16:16

when that sort of violence devolved

16:19

in this house of the dragon episode nobody

16:22

is like objecting to it the

16:24

people mean kind of horrified or entertained

16:27

by what's going on but it doesn't seem the be

16:29

like against the rules and so

16:31

i'm like maybe that says a difference

16:33

between tar guerin

16:36

rule vs like king it's role

16:38

or baby maybe assistant

16:40

assistant error of how appropriate

16:43

it is some murder a fellow

16:45

noble been in the middle of the joust

16:47

but yeah

16:49

either way poorly

16:51

planned kim poorly planned kim think

16:53

is what the take home is

16:58

that's do a couple follow ups from last week's episode

17:00

specifically of a

17:02

cast of kings and of house the dragon

17:06

nick jacobson writing

17:08

quote my wife gave birth to our first

17:10

child recently and she had a c section she really dislike

17:13

most or a pregnancy and was deathly nervous

17:15

about having a c section she was legitimately

17:17

triggered by the birth seen in the show and he's a

17:19

physician so wasn't the gore that was the problem

17:21

even though the shows perspective is that decision made

17:24

by resources a very bad one it so

17:26

concerns me when mail show runners put their female

17:28

characters who such agony for plot purposes

17:30

or as a character moment for male characters certainly

17:33

not an unforgiving mistake but i hope they have

17:35

a diverse writers' room and are listening and considering

17:38

your friends prospectus i

17:40

don't know you guys is kim i read

17:42

this interview with them about

17:44

the show runners about this the seen

17:47

this is a show that is made by men largely

17:50

about women and i

17:52

think that is important to just keep in mind they

17:55

discuss the scene and scene and it to

17:57

be extremely brutal and they also said

17:59

they showed there's many women as possible

18:02

the to see if they could get their take on it ends

18:04

make sure that

18:05

they were doing the right thing and obviously they arrived at what

18:07

they did for just curious i have any i enter

18:10

the owners assess

18:12

, your ego i'm like i'm

18:14

like i recognize that cloud i did they

18:17

have been busted

18:18

yeah no it is true that

18:20

at the end of the day this is still the

18:23

tv show that is based on a book

18:25

written by a man and has to mail so

18:27

runners and they do

18:29

have more women in the writers' room

18:31

then we had with serve at the first

18:34

season of game of thrones i believe i'm

18:36

as well as a couple of women directors

18:38

who directed upcoming episodes

18:42

though yeah i agree that would you don't

18:44

want to see some brutality against

18:48

women for the sake of i

18:50

get like plot devices are for male characters

18:53

i would push back on that point a little bit to

18:55

say that i don't think that that

18:57

scene was simply there to move the sarah's

18:59

the story forward i think it's like death

19:03

is like the emotional

19:06

a quick the ground floor

19:08

of all the emotions that we're going to be seeing

19:10

from rainier of from allison's

19:14

even like it

19:16

i think that it has ripple effects across the entire

19:19

family not just the sarah's

19:21

and i think that the fact that the theres made the choice

19:23

of he did which big

19:25

alpha passionate described as quote effectively

19:28

hundred unquote

19:29

his wife in that scene i

19:31

think that it's or is there to serve as like

19:33

the platform for

19:35

why we might see characters like

19:37

renier and allison wary

19:39

of childbirth are wary of their

19:41

role be they have they know first

19:43

hand how wrong everything can go and even like

19:46

nottage of a head into our episode conversation but even

19:48

in this episode miss aria also kind of brings

19:50

up like what every

19:53

woman character in the show is very aware of the

19:55

dangers of child birth to their own

19:58

how and to their own life and

19:59

though it's not idle that not only holds or

20:02

think like him anomaly tub with the

20:04

carrying a child that

20:06

the probably be valuable to people

20:09

rain

20:10

the event that would it like it would make them

20:12

a target theoretically you know where

20:15

love is something that messiah

20:17

it it sets the stage for the fact that in

20:19

this the next period of western

20:22

society the george rr martin has treated women

20:25

generally treated as carrying

20:27

vessels the royal bloodline

20:30

and not as they're not treated

20:32

as legitimate

20:33

well political players are legitimate possible

20:35

rulers

20:36

or people worthy of their own

20:38

independent wishes you know raiders as

20:40

she just wants to fly off somewhere

20:42

with allison

20:43

the eat cake in the first episode and then quickly

20:45

becomes obvious that that's not a saying that

20:47

young girls get

20:48

when they grow up in the society so

20:51

instead they fly off with this step mom's

20:54

i'm , this yoking anyway one

20:58

final thing before get to this episode last week

21:00

episode last like what are those

21:02

don't bother me

21:05

and we're like is is just like punching in

21:07

his is a kind of you know like of the speaking

21:10

stick the cons and

21:12

turns i yeah that's basically it in an interview

21:14

with holder porter the show

21:16

runner rank although says cause everybody shows

21:18

up for work and they punch him i thought

21:20

it was really cool it's a we're visualizing the set

21:22

formality of a small council chamber it's enjoyable

21:24

we should have things like that in this world and quote so even

21:27

, they dedicated quite a bit of attention

21:29

to it i felt and also it was in the

21:31

trailer like the stone ball was in the trailer

21:34

ah it's sister sister

21:37

and and and is gonna go

21:39

and say i didn't like the rules of the stone but

21:41

like once again shouldn't mess

21:43

with me to take you stumble with him when he leaves but

21:45

even do that so much what was the

21:48

point of all that anyway

21:49

the show is a bad employee who

21:51

harper lee also

21:54

placed him using so points didn't

21:56

even when he's going so basically and of he's

21:58

got a you know time

21:59

getting overtime or know work

22:02

right well those are all the follow ups

22:05

that we wanted to mention from last week's episode

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23:10

season one episode two of

23:13

house of the dragon entitled to the road prince

23:16

why would he do this week's episode nothing from feature

23:19

weeks let's start with the opening

23:21

title sequence which is a

23:23

new title sequences everyone

23:25

saw for the first time this week like even

23:27

press didn't see the title sequence in advance it wasn't

23:30

who either wasn't done or they don't want to put it in there what

23:33

do you think of a new title

23:35

sequence well we're and actually we're in

23:37

a list or by explaining what what actually

23:39

goes on right in the title sequence okay

23:41

my signal

23:43

yeah i would

23:44

when i first thought i was excited i was

23:46

what's going on and then i got to be like wait

23:48

what's going on six wait what are our

23:50

wonderful six

23:52

oh yeah

23:54

it it seems to be

23:58

it like the cameras moving through

23:59

model of old valeria which

24:02

we now know that is why it kinda

24:04

sarah's is ah having

24:06

built in his chambers that

24:08

little like model city is malaria and

24:10

for the opening credits takes us

24:12

through the target area in

24:15

line of succession that's what like they're like

24:17

blood flowing that begins

24:19

in valeria

24:21

with the doom we've talked about it like

24:23

a bonus episode the fight cataclysmic

24:25

event that happened and valeria which

24:27

with this old grand city full of dragons

24:29

and magic and then everything went terribly

24:31

wrong and the target audience are

24:33

one of the only family that managed to escape

24:35

fully yeah before the doom happened so they

24:37

are like be surviving dragon rider

24:39

so the blood kind of pores

24:42

from that and that it kind of shit

24:44

all of these different little circles that

24:46

have

24:47

they're like fiddles or and

24:50

little outlines of the crown so that various

24:52

rulers had which is how you can identify

24:54

sort of like which person is so spi which though

24:57

we see like aegon the conqueror crowd

24:59

and then like that eventually that blood

25:02

eventually runs all the way down to kinda thera

25:04

so he now knows and the show and then it

25:07

kind of pingpong the round i think that we see

25:09

a little bit of an indication of dame and

25:11

are gary and his brother so obviously like

25:13

shares the bloodline and then eventually

25:15

ends with rain near as symbol which

25:17

is that sort of like three overlapping

25:20

ring that the

25:22

that's a bit nuts the symbol that on the necklace

25:25

that dame and gave

25:27

when you're and the first episode

25:29

we're ending right now the

25:31

opening credits are landing on her

25:34

as like the next merit to the iron throne

25:36

that will be always land on her open question

25:39

right though , see but

25:42

what did you think of the opening credits like to do

25:44

enjoy them obviously it reduces

25:46

the original game of thrones seen by remain

25:48

javadi ruff awesome

25:51

yeah i wasn't sure

25:53

i don't really have expectations about whether they were gonna

25:55

do new music or nine i

25:57

don't mind but it's the same music i kind of

25:59

like it gives you that same feeling again

26:01

it's obviously been ages since i've heard that iconic

26:04

h b o that expose

26:07

and then cut into the known

26:09

and unknown you know i think everybody

26:11

has the third like no connection with that so i kind

26:13

of get why they did that at the same time i

26:16

think i would have loved to hear like a more

26:18

target area and focused the music but

26:20

overall i like that what did you think

26:23

without and will ,

26:25

abandon not a fan the

26:29

, opening of game of thrones is

26:31

that the opening credits a game of thrones is like

26:34

one of the if not the greatest opening credits sequence

26:36

of all time the music is that ass

26:38

the visuals are bad as it's informative

26:41

like an asian cities you about the world

26:43

and often about the world that

26:45

you're going to witness during the course of that episode

26:49

it , incredible is is like you get

26:51

your mood instantly changes when you watch the original

26:53

game threads opening theme opening

26:55

don't love that the use the original

26:58

theme song never

27:00

the be fair

27:01

the mean your body wrote one of the great a seasonal passes

27:03

the fact that he's like okay i cannot improve

27:05

on the sir find

27:07

, guy i understand that but ah

27:10

it was written for that

27:13

other theme sequence

27:15

that whole sequence you know and yeah feels

27:17

very the feeding

27:19

to this one that's honestly more

27:22

gory icky and literal

27:25

which is like it's blood that's like bloodline

27:27

even the blood is bloodlines and it's like okay

27:29

like whatever it's not going about like i'm

27:32

i'm probably not gonna think about it after

27:34

this week and actually that's a problem in my opinion

27:36

because soon i thought about the game

27:38

of thrones title sequence like every week i was like this is

27:40

amazing i love being in this world and watching

27:42

the subtlety with and like this one i'm like if

27:45

or some other blood just kind of makes me feel icky

27:47

and i'm like okay like it's

27:50

symbolizing bloodline if i i get it

27:53

you know like those

27:55

are the great things about the original games are settled sequence

27:57

it was like it's felt

27:59

a lot the metaphorical it's like this

28:02

this elaborate game

28:04

board that amazon is i yeah the

28:06

gears turning and coming on and

28:10

and yes you see that with this with this title sequences

28:12

well but the topic is much

28:14

more literal with a blood you know i'm in sir

28:16

and i agree that the game of thrones

28:18

title sequences genuinely helpful like

28:21

it's a don't worry and see you in west rose

28:23

and then over to assess the you introduce

28:26

like they would introduce new locations in the title

28:28

sequence right before they actually got enough

28:30

to send in a new episode it was like it

28:32

was genuinely helpful whereas

28:34

right now as it stands with this

28:37

it's like

28:38

like i i i

28:40

haven't even fully broken down every single

28:42

one because one was like i need to like study

28:45

like the book drawings and compare

28:47

crowns and like

28:49

it moving pretty quickly so like you don't

28:51

really get to like settle on like seeing

28:54

what anything means or doesn't feel as informative

28:56

it feels a little bit more mysterious

28:58

which

29:00

i think

29:01

maybe to their detriment

29:03

yeah i mean you are listening to

29:05

podcasts right now that has one

29:07

of the hop game of thrones

29:09

experts in the senses and my opinion

29:12

and some guy

29:14

and

29:15

and she doesn't

29:17

know what is going on with the opening sequence

29:20

exactly like know what's going

29:22

on i just external i need

29:24

more time stay with him

29:27

suing i'm not trying to impugn

29:30

your of the i'm just saying like it wasn't immediately

29:33

, you and and

29:36

was but unlike his as as details weren't immediately

29:38

obvious to you and ah outlet i think

29:40

you're unaware of yeah and

29:42

the for a normal viewer it's just like completely

29:45

baffling what is going right i'm

29:47

we should point out that there is a twit the is good

29:50

but i

29:50

the way it seems like they know that

29:52

someone else like

29:53

the of going to do the job of screenshot

29:55

and everything and explaining it to year or so

29:58

stay to offer though

29:59

the labor or the the emotional

30:02

labor of knowing the title sequence on

30:04

t on the camera which is a wino

30:07

on , unlike and a bear yeah

30:09

on one hand they picked the right person

30:12

to to bear that the other hand

30:14

out how dare they aren't there is a

30:16

user on twitter named conquerors crown

30:18

which will link to the show notes a user

30:21

name and like at conquerors crowd username

30:23

corliss really rain is black a deal with it

30:25

which is great great

30:27

or they've they've kind of put together kind of or

30:30

a translation of the entire opening credits sequence will

30:32

lead to the show notes but

30:34

you can check out there okay new open title

30:36

sequence that or title or that about that

30:38

can memo overall thoughts on

30:40

season one episode do like this whole episode

30:43

i bought this episode i love it

30:45

and i wasn't sure where

30:47

like they were going to go after that pilate

30:50

they you know did a lot of ground work i

30:52

liked the pilot a lot i thought it it did a good

30:54

job a kind of like setting setting

30:56

up everything which is the job the pilots

30:58

so with episode two it was like oh

31:00

i get to see sort of like what they really want to sink

31:02

their teeth into and it just

31:04

seems so obvious to me from this episode that they are

31:07

really paying attention to the women's

31:09

perspectives to like all of these girls perspire

31:11

and i think doing

31:13

a very good job of just like

31:15

showing exactly how many obstacles

31:17

every woman and westroads the sort of up against

31:19

when it comes sir what you

31:22

mean any sort of power for themselves and

31:24

so i loved it i thought all the performances

31:26

are great i love that dragon stone

31:29

i'm sort of like set piece

31:31

really cool music cues for rainier as

31:33

oh yeah overall i thought it was a

31:35

really awesome

31:37

like an episode for the series the

31:39

thing

31:40

i put it was pretty good are

31:42

some really amazing breathtaking

31:44

sequences throughout and really

31:49

enjoyed the new dragon sound like it looks so

31:51

cool and though the reveal is so cool

31:53

and like it's is the cg looks amazing

31:56

so i love that of i'm loving

31:58

rain euro the actress

32:00

millie alcorcon plays are like loving

32:03

that character and honestly i

32:06

told you i enjoyed her so

32:08

my to i'm kind of bummed because we know there's

32:10

a time jump that's gonna happen at some point to see we're

32:12

gonna see an older version of her and

32:16

some i think our time with this character

32:18

at this age with this actress

32:20

is limited and but she

32:22

is like probably the most compelling

32:25

character on screen in my opinion and

32:27

kind of the beating heart of the series of this point

32:32

but i was going to yeah oh yeah go ahead

32:34

you when we talked lasted about episode

32:36

one you had said the like it didn't quite you

32:39

couldn't quite feel that there was like one single

32:41

protagonists yeah

32:43

that means and all for this episode with you and like

32:45

with were near and particular yeah i kind of think

32:47

that she's the i agree she she's kind of

32:49

she becomes like much more clearly the focus

32:52

and we should go now by the way that like this

32:55

episode tells like i'm fairly linear story

32:57

you know it's and ,

32:59

linear story by the way is which

33:02

under age woman is or with underage girl

33:04

is beating going to marry and so

33:07

ah

33:08

and so that's kind of wiley alex

33:11

here is a clear that old chestnut

33:13

and that's kind of us have a leg

33:16

how invested am i in like which one of

33:18

his eat he's either going to make a choice that's horrifying

33:21

or one that's slightly less

33:23

horrifying and also has terrible implications

33:26

for his daughter that's these are the two choices

33:28

him it's like

33:29

not really love and

33:31

either they don't really feel in like i you

33:33

know and invested neither one of these decisions

33:36

because they both seem pretty bad enough into for

33:38

that reason

33:39

the dramatic tension of the episode didn't really

33:41

work for me because like the

33:44

usable horrible like i don't is

33:46

one thing if he's like nice to choose a good thing

33:48

and then like has many reasons not use the

33:50

right decision and then and then or it is like

33:53

i'll be classic story but

33:55

he's using our to fairly bad

33:57

things and it's like okay like you know

34:01

not much take whatever happens is gonna make

34:03

a bad to a so yeah i'm

34:06

but you know on the plus side as my wife said after

34:08

he was episodes big episode for flesh

34:10

wound so

34:12

if you're flesh wound fan you're

34:14

going to really like season episode you know many

34:16

good things about it less awkward again we

34:19

see throughout the course of this episode

34:21

many scenes of the crabeater lots

34:23

of graphic images

34:26

of the crabeater doing his thing ah

34:29

, just love that like game

34:32

of thrones nose or has the dragon in this case

34:34

knows the right details the show you to make sure

34:37

you are properly grossed out

34:40

riot in the case

34:42

of the crabeater the

34:45

show like a crab crawling into

34:49

the guys foot and then a foot starts

34:51

moving so you know the person's alive it's like

34:53

truly horrifying anyway reminders

34:56

to the crabeater is right he is a he

34:58

is threatening the

35:01

will he output who is the crabeater and what does

35:03

the crappy to want and why is he a threat to

35:05

the sir

35:06

yeah so he is the crabeater

35:08

is kind of like the current leader

35:11

i'm there the group

35:14

of unified folks at deck they kind of call

35:16

themselves the try our key is corliss

35:18

valerian or first of them so it's and

35:21

three different regions of as so

35:23

switches like you know not

35:25

too far away from lesser of like you can get a

35:27

ship

35:28

between if either continent pretty quickly

35:30

and he then attacking a

35:32

certain part of lesser

35:34

out that corliss is very defensive of

35:36

and that is directly affect falls like

35:38

the shipping trade routes and stuff and so it's

35:40

sort of like it's not a war as

35:43

we learn like the theres like very directly

35:45

trying not to engage with the

35:48

, feeder to like ignite a larger

35:50

war by as we see like people

35:52

are dying west rosie banner dying

35:54

and being tortured and this very terrible way

35:57

and lord corliss wants to do

35:59

than about it as easily

36:01

in i adversaries

36:03

is like

36:04

not not intervening in the

36:07

way the corliss once read play

36:08

and like an auto was like oh war

36:11

will send money for their families and

36:13

it's like you get the sense of how

36:15

like some like that there's a

36:17

certain ruling class and west rose that

36:19

doesn't quite value individual

36:21

human life because they're like oh

36:23

this would just lead to like

36:25

another thing that we don't really want to deal with or as corliss

36:28

i think that you see the like he cares very directly

36:30

that people are actively being tortured and murdered

36:32

by this guy on west rosie land

36:35

and you

36:35

the do than about it

36:36

which i guess

36:39

agreed corliss comes off

36:41

as fairly reasonable overall in this episode

36:43

of the part where he's trying to marry off his like fabio

36:45

but anyway anyway

36:48

we'll , to that same

36:50

with her viscera umenyiora

36:53

the small council and he

36:55

emerges for small that like there

36:58

he has been a six month time jump

37:00

since like as which kind of set

37:03

, mind reeling a little bit the

37:05

as everyone looks the same

37:07

you know like this this is all the actors of the

37:09

same and ah but it's like this a six

37:11

month times have a lot has happened in that

37:13

time

37:16

we just talked about the

37:18

try arcy ends are all the associated

37:20

things about that but damon has been a dragon

37:23

stone for over half a year and

37:26

is fortifying it against the will

37:28

of the king and kind

37:30

of obviously again engaging is this

37:32

is behavior ah

37:35

and good

37:37

yeah cause it at the end of episode

37:40

one

37:41

the fairest kind of like

37:42

throw the gauntlet down and vanishes him from

37:45

king's landing and tells him to go back to

37:47

his wife who lives near

37:49

the veil and clearly we learned

37:52

in this episode that dame and did not do that and

37:54

said he went a dragon stone which is that

37:56

seat is supposed to be like the seat of power

37:59

for the heir to the the throne and so they

38:01

come of age so that's technically rainier

38:03

i is now the princess of

38:04

and down

38:06

the man has gone and sort of like set up shop

38:08

there and he brought all the gold cloaks

38:10

who are his in a cop friends

38:12

from king's landing

38:15

we haven't covered as yet a cab also

38:18

means all gold cloaks are bastards

38:20

it's like it's like he like the sheriff

38:22

of a new police force and he just brought

38:24

all of his cops with him to

38:26

drag him down to demand tim

38:29

and be threatening

38:30

yeah

38:32

so the rogue prince

38:34

that's our episode title dame it

38:36

is the the eponymous school

38:38

is even insular i couldn't you see the titular

38:41

road prince and

38:43

kind

38:46

to inside for drop in here on a guess kings

38:49

the role

38:50

yeah so later mirrors

38:53

green arrow wants to say hey

38:55

let me just go to let me go down there with my dragon

38:58

will solve this you know brother

39:00

sister it's gonna be great or

39:04

a i guess there are

39:05

because they're seasons

39:07

on recognized for it

39:09

yeah oncogenes she suggests dragon riders

39:11

to help solve the crabs feeder problem

39:14

i'm like yes this is and this is i

39:16

think a very important

39:18

like cone setting moment for

39:20

this episode because again like you ended up a

39:22

third one at sort of the high point

39:24

of light rainier and her gorgeous

39:27

down in front of the iron throne everybody spending

39:29

money to hurt sort of like leave the phone a point

39:31

of being like oh cool rainier it's like really being set

39:34

up to write one day and

39:36

then we cut to this episode and she's still

39:38

the cup bearer at the smart helps or

39:41

hurts so horrible idea terrible idea

39:43

to to continue to make or the clipper you know

39:45

then six months and she still just

39:47

serving drinks and being told

39:49

to shut up basically in the meetings

39:51

were like decisions about how to run

39:54

the realm are being made and she i think that it is

39:56

a good suggestion where she's like you have people

39:58

who have

39:59

biden

39:59

if you have dragon rider is like literally

40:02

people who could wipe out and army

40:04

pretty easily as we saw when danny attacked

40:07

i'm the lana sir army and game of

40:09

thrones like i

40:12

think that she kind of right and corliss is the only one

40:14

who seems to want to listen to her the fact that she gets

40:16

dismissed out of hand i think is showing us

40:18

that

40:19

regardless of how much for ferris wants

40:21

her

40:22

or like said that he wants her to

40:25

inherit the throne he's doing very little

40:27

in real time to support

40:30

her ability to rule he says

40:32

he is undermining her and auto is undermining

40:34

her and the grandmaster undermine

40:36

sir like everyone kind of is treating her like

40:38

she's a little girl who doesn't really need to

40:41

have input

40:42

the situation better than terrible

40:44

god yeah it's me off so much when autos

40:47

like perhaps there's some better use for the

40:49

this is talents your grace and i'm like

40:51

oh shut the fuck are

40:52

auto and , for them

40:54

like the third listen to or which

40:56

is even worse i want to give some some insight

40:59

into the making of a cast kings podcast

41:02

whenever we

41:03

due to show there are incredibly

41:05

intricate details your notes that can run for

41:07

their like the gold standard

41:10

of tv recapture notes is what

41:12

and renfro is preparing end and

41:15

, usually very little editorializing

41:17

in the no no he's a like this is who

41:19

is at the council meeting here is that the and

41:22

then you have written here in the senate auto interrupts

41:24

or perhaps us and better use for the talents of the princess

41:26

talents or grace and then it came as

41:28

little note oh i hate this fucker which

41:31

is very is to see but you

41:33

know i've registered it and fair

41:36

enough i guess perhaps some you

41:38

can help pick out which one of these guys his best better

41:40

looking you know that's what you that's

41:42

what your skills are best used for some

41:45

his sons he like censor

41:47

away from the more important conversation

41:50

about decisions with

41:52

rule and war and shows

41:54

of forests censor off and then still

41:57

shows up to that kings guard choosing and

41:59

continues

41:59

the remind her

42:01

in front of us everyone else

42:03

and i noticed hate is

42:05

stupid little face he's auto and

42:07

looks all sad and concerned and i'm like

42:10

i'm not by and and auto

42:12

not to mention the almost got the kingdom embroiled

42:14

in a war that will get to that in a bit but anyway

42:18

so then she goes and she chooses sir crispin

42:20

call at this night seen i loved

42:23

all the little details about the scene on the up there

42:25

is she has is kind of steps

42:27

to have a to me so i kind of climb on top

42:29

of the look over the railing the

42:32

i love how warren that thing look to

42:34

me at the should like to close ups of a because

42:36

obviously someone put a lot of time and effort

42:38

into like designing it and making

42:40

sure the details like just not right and it looks

42:42

great and is the ideas like of course that

42:44

she has use as many times before to like maximo

42:47

decision or do some things and so

42:49

really lovely detail and then they have

42:51

this like incredibly elaborate chessboard type

42:54

thing there is like showing who

42:56

which that is for the result is that was that

42:58

was a awesome but be on like the they really

43:00

just real bad for this

43:02

purpose or do they do they have this thing lying

43:04

around if in this event that

43:06

like they need to pick a night you know at another

43:09

to the books give

43:09

the blame maybe it's just i know it's probably

43:12

just like meant to be like some sort of ceremonial

43:14

thing any times it on kings

43:16

car

43:16

it is like a letter only basically

43:18

and they're like a when it when the new

43:20

night steps forward there's a new chess piece

43:23

know rainier accuses

43:25

sir crispin call the

43:28

best looking of overnights obviously the

43:31

but i thought my she says it's not a handy

43:33

because it ends with the it's because

43:35

he's the one that seemed the most combat experience

43:39

so

43:39

and she watched him fight in

43:42

the tournament she saw him best

43:44

damon which i think to her like dame

43:46

and her guerin probably one of the most skilled

43:48

fighters that she knows and so if she's like okay

43:50

this guy could even take down

43:52

my uncle it means that he's probably

43:54

worthy

43:55

the sea and i also appreciated the detail

43:57

that like sir crispin is the only one there who

43:59

that have a squire he is a night

44:02

he's been knighted but he's not

44:04

he's he's com and born effectively

44:07

so he doesn't have sort of like the wealth and the

44:09

the procedure enough to have a a pager

44:11

have squire holding pager banner behind him

44:13

it's of it's and his his humble

44:15

armor

44:16

sir crispin would

44:18

be the one of the golf course carrying his own clubs

44:20

you know into the i have a cat

44:23

there's not

44:25

but yet he chooses rechristened coal and

44:28

auto , to undo that decision and he fails

44:31

and he knows where near

44:33

as near point they need as defending

44:36

are all that some okay

44:38

there is a scene with our sins

44:40

and viscera swear viscera still

44:43

working on this massive model six months here

44:45

if he's obviously made obviously made of progress he's

44:47

talking about old valeria which is what the model

44:50

is of and

44:52

they have this awkward conversation

44:55

where he's like you're you don't tell rainier

44:57

about the talks we have right and

45:00

, my kim renfro impression of the sir edmund

45:04

you can get edmund sense at their relationship is

45:08

the key is really into it because obviously

45:11

that he is fulfilling

45:13

this geek male fantasy of hey

45:15

this girl i'm with the spend

45:17

time with me is into my esoteric

45:20

and weird hobbies you know and

45:22

and eat oh she actually cares about

45:24

which one of these models is made out of the

45:26

sandstone and such and ah and

45:28

she actually cares but you know and and the

45:31

and that's why he decides the merrier

45:33

at the other thing is because he's into modeling

45:35

stuff now i'm just joke i mean i think

45:37

he clearly it's a sign that

45:40

the have at least some kind of connection or that

45:42

she is certainly better

45:46

at making at connection with him than have been lane

45:48

outright

45:50

for their reasons but sure but

45:52

yeah as any thoughts on the sequence with

45:54

the elephant in missouri

45:56

first i just want to make

45:58

sure that anyone listening who was currently

46:00

painting a tiny warhammer are making

46:02

there is no is

46:04

that is a valid and lovely hobby

46:06

i'm so glad that you've taken that up way to go

46:09

you are nothing like the ferries i'm

46:11

i mean we even learn and the seen that he doesn't even

46:13

build it himself okay he's

46:15

a faker he's a little and ponder

46:17

model builder he wholesome

46:19

what he told other

46:20

stonemasons exactly what to carve

46:22

and then he just like place them so he's more of like

46:25

a history nerd who has

46:27

the ability to make someone else

46:29

make a little model for him that

46:31

he can then play with so

46:33

if you're out there is no real work yourself

46:36

for yeah this reminds me

46:38

of like when people say like say like

46:40

this house you know legacy

46:43

either way people who are like oh yeah we we moved

46:45

or is spokane and wee

46:47

bit we built this house and it's like okay

46:50

i believe you put in a lot of work into like

46:52

designing and planning the house for the you really

46:54

build the hat like did you really get out

46:56

get saw in a hammer and bill you know

46:58

like maybe probably not the

47:01

most the time when people say that another they really

47:03

literally built the another it always bothers me

47:05

now

47:07

libraries and there and pressure

47:10

yeah i think that i

47:12

think that athena so helpful specifically

47:14

because lot line that you called out of

47:18

you know there again there's like a weird vibe

47:20

going on because alison didn't though

47:23

to his room of her own accord she was sent

47:25

there by her father she there now

47:27

she's very good at playing a part of like

47:29

a polite interested young lady who

47:31

is like kind and supportive and encouraging

47:34

ah the fact that he

47:36

feels the need to make sure that she hasn't told

47:39

her best friend and his daughter

47:42

that they've been spending time alone together is

47:44

like a it's a huge red flag it's like that

47:46

means of the series understands that she's

47:48

doing something that would upset the

47:50

neera if she knew

47:53

and instead of dealing with the fact

47:56

he's hiding it until

47:59

the final reveal the and which is why it's so

48:01

devastating for everybody so i

48:03

just i think that the writers are doing a really good job

48:06

like scene to scene to scene it's like we just get

48:08

back to back to back examples of

48:10

the way that

48:12

most of the are like that the men

48:14

of this courts

48:16

or

48:17

being manipulative and a

48:19

little bit disregarding

48:21

the

48:22

wasn't and runners feelings and

48:24

instead they're just sort of focusing on trying

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there is another scene after

49:36

this were renier and l since

49:38

meat and they

49:41

have a conversation the

49:45

in this episode but it's not deceptive

49:47

below right

49:48

right from the set the veil or is

49:50

called such because it was named after

49:53

they or food

49:54

you know designed it and had it built and everything

49:57

and he doesn't he's not king yet at this point in

49:59

history for this that's a different sapped

50:01

i kind of either side by side they

50:03

look a little bit similar in design but they're not

50:05

exactly the same so that big sept that gets

50:07

blown up and game of thrones by

50:09

thirty in the wildfire that's

50:11

not this exact same building this predates

50:14

that building they don't seem to be

50:16

some sort of a worship place i'm

50:18

we see late all of you know like the seven

50:21

pointed star said joles i'm guessing

50:23

they don't i don't really get a close enough look

50:26

in the episode of the statue that there in front of

50:28

but i would guess that it's the mother who

50:30

is like one of the seven the

50:33

odds that are worships by people who believe in the faith

50:35

of the seven and because they're talking about motherhood

50:37

their own mother's and praying and stuff i'm assuming

50:40

that that sort of like the altar that they're setting

50:44

and then when you're a share a lovely

50:47

moment together where the

50:49

empathize with each other about the challenges

50:51

of being a girl in the situation

50:54

in euro wants people to see her

50:56

as more than just a daughter

50:59

at the his little girl she says ah

51:01

and it's it's nice a kind of given

51:04

that they've covered an enormous

51:06

amount of ground and the first two episodes like in a room

51:08

is my my period and and and the lot of relationships

51:11

i , that the chemistry that these two

51:13

actors have with each other really sells they're

51:16

close relationship and

51:19

, damaging the events that

51:21

occur later on must be so

51:23

yeah and that the actors

51:25

millie alcorcon like harry

51:27

have they talked with me about this

51:30

am as another article that i can link in

51:32

the show notes maybe i'm but

51:34

they said that it is a conscious piece of their performance

51:37

that like there is a romantic

51:39

undertone to their bond with each other

51:42

wow flag yes they are obviously

51:44

like best friends but there's like a certain amount

51:46

of complexity

51:48

to like teen girl friendships

51:50

especially if it's like your first friend it's sort of

51:53

like the first bond that you have

51:55

outside of your family and

51:57

and you can see in the seem very clearly that

51:59

they are able to like speak very openly

52:02

with each other support each other has

52:04

like a tactile closeness to one another

52:06

that you don't really see them

52:08

have with any of the men

52:10

they interact with even

52:12

when everything seems like you know

52:14

fine and dandy i'll building it's notable that

52:17

allison tried to reassure a nearby saying

52:19

like he chose you for air and she says

52:21

he didn't choose me he spurned

52:23

damon and i think that that's also

52:26

an important point that like on

52:28

the one hand you can kind of seating the ferriss

52:31

naming of rainier as air as like

52:33

oh way to go feminism

52:35

was throw a slag he gets it

52:38

and then as this episode again i i feel

52:40

like i keep saying this but like they really hammer and

52:42

in this episode that he is not in practice

52:44

really supporting her as air

52:46

which makes it does it does make it seem

52:48

like he only did that to kind

52:50

of

52:51

each dame and a lesson

52:53

which is not

52:54

some that

52:56

is something else i'm tyrell that's not

52:58

the definition of feminist

53:00

the

53:01

this is there

53:03

, there's a scene

53:05

between the viscera scoreless

53:07

and rainy swear the mean

53:10

conflict of the episode is presented

53:12

corliss as hey

53:14

the

53:15

things are your your your seen as vulnerable

53:17

right now right your wife has died your

53:19

male heir has died people

53:22

, lot of people including yourself king don't

53:24

respect read your as the air air

53:27

and so you gotta you gotta make a big move

53:29

you gotta have this unite

53:31

our houses merrier daughter the

53:34

and corliss also known as a sea snake

53:37

we'll have a lot of resources

53:40

financial and military military

53:43

resources to offer to the king

53:46

and obviously that will make corliss

53:48

and the king even closer in a way that he was

53:52

though it's a compelling offer

53:55

yep a fact that literally everyone

53:57

in the episode says

54:00

going to be able to reaffirm that this is a good deal so

54:03

i don't have even in thought an ipad of

54:06

the basically like set up i do want to say that this

54:08

the scenes beautiful lake

54:11

is shaun i'm what appears be outdoors

54:13

there's like this island and water in the background of the groups

54:15

amazing loving the new kind of he

54:17

was ranting landing like the production value

54:20

seems very high mates

54:22

yeah no i thought that this is i

54:24

i really like corliss throughout this

54:26

episode i really liked him in the last episode two

54:28

i think the he's

54:29

he's clearly one of the more just sort of like

54:32

pragmatic

54:33

not all leaders

54:35

like he seems to kind of like have pretty solid

54:37

political strategy most of the time and

54:40

yes it is really ski that what he's proposing

54:42

is him

54:43

marrying has told year old to a grown man

54:46

right

54:47

that effect when it was decided to sign and

54:49

with the style of the time to him so you

54:51

know

54:52

i did i think that the scene does a good job

54:54

of showing that like this areas

54:56

i mean you totally nailed it when we talk last

54:58

week about how like he just cannot have difficult

55:00

conversations right so like in

55:03

this private audience that he has with his cousin

55:05

he's very warm and friendly in his ago rainy

55:07

says my favorite cousin and oh it's totally fine

55:09

that there was some tension before ball while like she

55:11

needs of she needs people to think that

55:14

he's like kind and magnanimous but

55:16

then we see that like mostly

55:18

it's just ruling by emotion like he's

55:20

great he is grieving his wife i guess

55:23

to else you for still being

55:24

than six months later after you effectively murdered

55:26

your wife things for there's but

55:29

like

55:30

not a lot of compassion

55:33

their can tell

55:35

, i don't like

55:37

these men like that learned coral is

55:39

is like the only one so far where

55:41

i'm like i understand his his

55:43

perspective here where is the fairest the seems kind

55:45

of cowardly to me and that he cannot

55:48

you can't make the difficult decision and and corliss

55:50

call them out on that about like to elude a storm

55:52

you can either sale into it

55:55

aura around it but you must never a way to is coming

55:57

and it seems like that's all of a serious does is

55:59

waiting mobile last possible moment when things

56:01

are blowing up in his face to then take out

56:03

then so

56:05

the the ferris

56:07

that's my since , take

56:11

take seeing boo areas

56:13

anyway okay so

56:16

renew your adversaries have dinner together

56:18

and you put in the shown it's like an open

56:20

question of this any does anyone outside

56:23

of the room knows the choice of osiris made about him as

56:25

death the murder of my guess would be no because if

56:28

people specifically very near a new that

56:30

the sarah's had hoped to bring

56:33

a by his wife and i

56:35

like we'll be talking you know like know like

56:37

so it's there's probably like a well kept secret

56:40

yeah

56:42

right yeah

56:45

and they're better see

56:46

then again it's like the thera has

56:48

thera chance to be supportive

56:51

of rainier again have media

56:53

like a hard to hard conversation with her and

56:55

when she kind of like tries to raise like oh

56:58

about earlier today you know when i suggested

57:00

the dragon riders and he just cut their off

57:02

and says

57:02

you're young you'll learn which like

57:05

you grow

57:06

like your even like in private

57:08

you can't have a direct conversation

57:10

with your daughter about like okay well

57:12

i love the input ah

57:14

but maybe next time wait until the

57:16

rest of the small council have gone before we talk

57:19

perk like we talk about advice or whatever

57:21

but instead he just like immediately shut her down

57:23

and again it's just like nonstop reinforcement

57:27

she is really kind of

57:29

hung out to dry here

57:30

hi everyone except allison

57:34

there is a scene where the

57:37

serious get maggot

57:39

therapy for his fingers and of course the show shows

57:41

this in the most graphic way possible i

57:43

his fingers places rotting

57:46

the maggots are really alive and

57:48

their squirm in around everywhere and

57:52

now i'd say look this up

57:55

and

57:56

mega therapy is in fact

57:58

a legitimate therapy still in use

58:00

today them one

58:02

thing that is great about maggots is that they

58:05

seem to be really effective

58:07

at doing , called deep

58:09

riding where they

58:11

essentially it and destroy

58:13

the neck chronic issue of

58:16

a wound without affecting the life

58:18

tissue the human

58:21

, over there there microphone

58:24

like a good fellow little bit uk

58:27

the

58:28

the

58:30

you know don't you don't get outlines of

58:35

, exactly exactly

58:37

you're talking you're maggot eating is

58:39

a summer maggots that's summer yes up

58:42

zero bumping me off the topic i then simply

58:45

ah you can watch all of our

58:48

bloopers the antics of read the antics

58:50

cast kings you to pay by the way castings accomplish

58:52

you do anyway

58:54

so you're maggots can remove

58:56

the chronic issue fairly effectively and the

58:59

and apparently it's like relatively safe

59:01

to put your finger in one gives a don't

59:03

eat living tissue

59:04

so i'm not

59:07

saying go

59:08

lemme think go do this without the

59:10

aid of a doctor i'm just saying

59:12

based on my reading it wasn't just like

59:15

some stupid thing that people have olden days did

59:17

that was a bad idea so sad about

59:19

they they didn't include as a game

59:21

of thrones but george love those kinds of like

59:25

old am i

59:27

i don't know blood related

59:29

insect related maggot related killing

59:32

things and the books oh

59:35

goodness of bruce bolton

59:41

yeah haven't i don't know where you're going to say next

59:43

so i can confirm or deny

59:44

i haven't heard that name and years

59:47

nervous as the i was like i have that is

59:49

that guy's name he's like he's very

59:51

famous for being leached all the time

59:54

like he's

59:54

the me how they're like leeches put on him and taken

59:56

off and so that we should remain in my reading

59:58

about maggots i've under then he still like a

1:00:00

fairly is sometimes used

1:00:02

treatment as well sauce that argued

1:00:05

that hot that has clearly like

1:00:07

turned into this like the summer and i'm pretty sure

1:00:09

as the same cut that he got six months

1:00:11

ago on iron throne after

1:00:14

he sent dame and away which as we talked about the

1:00:16

iron throne if , if you're

1:00:18

caught while seated upon the iron throne it's

1:00:20

it's this very symbolic kind of like saying

1:00:23

about the the seat of power rejecting

1:00:25

yeah so the fact that not only did he get caught but

1:00:27

then it's now turned into this like gnarly

1:00:30

rotting flesh

1:00:31

where and yeah a and he wears

1:00:33

gloves

1:00:33

that you can see that he has like gloves kind of like trying

1:00:36

to cover it

1:00:36

in other scenes none growth

1:00:41

the the same is basically more affirmation

1:00:44

that he

1:00:46

should marry lady

1:00:49

lena ah that

1:00:51

said it seems pretty clear the autos

1:00:53

probably doing probably little bit of the old reverse psychology

1:00:55

here you know he's like oh like mean

1:00:58

when my wife died he was the absolute worst

1:01:00

thing that could have ever have to me and i would never have

1:01:02

never dreamed about remarrying for

1:01:05

use it do it totally uses do it for yourself

1:01:07

yeah no problem you know yeah

1:01:10

i love the the old reverse

1:01:12

psychology you know yet

1:01:14

and also at one point like this area's

1:01:16

does i guess little bit to his credit be like

1:01:18

what word rainier they if i married

1:01:20

again and grandmaster

1:01:22

said like what does it matter which

1:01:24

yeah that's like the truth thing a man who said

1:01:27

in the whole episode whole episode

1:01:29

what rainier ethics and field

1:01:30

does not matter

1:01:32

that sucks

1:01:34

okay here's the thing

1:01:36

that kind of bothers me about the episode kim until you

1:01:38

to think of as i just feel like paddy considine

1:01:40

the serious character

1:01:43

it feels a little bit anachronistic to me because

1:01:45

i moved away he's interpreting lady

1:01:48

lena and like the offer to merely the linux

1:01:50

like oh my i would never see

1:01:52

someone this young it's sets it is

1:01:55

beyond the pit us i would never

1:01:57

do something like and you know

1:01:59

it's like okay

1:01:59

yes that is a very reasonable

1:02:02

thing to think especially

1:02:04

that are

1:02:05

present day knowledge but like it

1:02:07

, like back in the day

1:02:09

in this fictional universe at the that you

1:02:11

know on in certainly to based off of kind

1:02:13

of like medieval era stuff

1:02:15

like this would be a very reasonable

1:02:18

a normal thing to do do

1:02:20

it feels like the surface kind of an audience or he's

1:02:22

like what the audience with feel about this

1:02:25

as opposed to what someone in his situation feel

1:02:27

that this that's kind of my read on

1:02:29

what did you thing

1:02:30

yeah i think that's fair i

1:02:32

guess i

1:02:34

right handed read it as like he clearly

1:02:36

one

1:02:37

i listen

1:02:39

though like he's finding every

1:02:41

reason he's he'll he'll it keeps

1:02:43

trying to find a reason to say no

1:02:46

to lane i and the fact that she's only

1:02:48

twelve the parent like she's

1:02:51

a shit back ah it's of so

1:02:53

creepy when she's like oh

1:02:56

when you like what did your mother's own she like

1:02:58

that i don't have to bed you and time for a team

1:03:00

is like

1:03:02

dear god i mean just the just

1:03:04

the shot of him walking with lady

1:03:07

lena and like she says how to smile

1:03:09

like oh my god sees h

1:03:11

i old that you know she's a baby you

1:03:14

know ah it's

1:03:16

it's really it's done for maximum

1:03:18

emotional impact the another way shot i think

1:03:21

yeah and know they haven't

1:03:23

they haven't disclosed to us at what stage

1:03:25

alice and and rainy or or in and their puberty

1:03:28

and young womanhood but lake i'm

1:03:30

pretty sure that fourteen fifteen

1:03:33

it's like like everyone

1:03:35

kind of tiptoeing around up at the point is

1:03:37

that if necessary married lena today

1:03:40

she would not be able to a media the start having children

1:03:42

with him whereas allison

1:03:45

seems more of the child

1:03:46

during teenage age

1:03:50

yeah

1:03:51

right right so

1:03:53

i agree with you that it shouldn't be it

1:03:56

does maybe seem maybe little bit anachronistic three that

1:03:58

he's responding to that but i

1:03:59

the

1:04:00

i think it plays well enough and that like a

1:04:03

yes it is gross and i'm glad that the

1:04:05

writers are letting us like actually

1:04:07

sit with that as like as like like a game of thrones

1:04:10

some of this with presence it

1:04:12

it felt more like it was shown to us

1:04:15

as like well and universe

1:04:17

this is of how things are done so like don't

1:04:20

be too steep thou by it but in how the the dragon

1:04:22

they really seem to like the

1:04:24

fully supportive of us the audience being

1:04:27

scooped out by the fact that all

1:04:29

of these

1:04:29

like younger

1:04:31

the ball the appeal of a show like

1:04:34

this to me though is to

1:04:36

see things depicted in there

1:04:38

the holiday and and

1:04:41

kind of have opportunities

1:04:43

the viewer to bring my own lands to it as but

1:04:45

like i don't need the show bringing

1:04:47

an anachronistic lens through it's characters

1:04:50

on a certain thing this topic

1:04:52

yeah i mean i let let me

1:04:54

be skipped out late liquid me brig the scheming

1:04:57

or my own like i can i started this

1:04:59

guy i don't need the sarah's to be skipped out by i

1:05:01

can be skewed up by the i'm saying like the skin of my

1:05:04

my position on a show like this but anyway yes

1:05:08

want to bring my own scathing really is what it

1:05:10

is kim you know totally fair okay

1:05:14

they is it so they talk in

1:05:17

the , he he

1:05:19

as like yeah i will produce

1:05:21

many errors and she says all the ratings and is a

1:05:23

he's he's like okay so does your dad tell you to say to

1:05:26

and is easy kind of gives it away

1:05:28

and i'm like and you're blowing

1:05:31

this your message assessing

1:05:33

asked if asked

1:05:35

very your rehearsal sit have been have little the

1:05:37

pastoral

1:05:39

oh yeah i mean yeah it's

1:05:41

pretty plain

1:05:43

no i just wanted to know too that i

1:05:45

love that they brought up the dragons again

1:05:47

in the seem to have like lane i'll be like

1:05:49

really interested in the fact that

1:05:52

the , the last person to ride

1:05:54

bulgarian the black dread like

1:05:56

the giant ruggedness the skull that they were standing

1:05:58

in front of and up

1:05:59

one

1:06:00

epic prophecy seen that

1:06:03

dragon the books viscera

1:06:05

to like sixteen years old when

1:06:07

i'm it says that he entered the dragon pet

1:06:09

or the yeah the dragon pet which is where

1:06:12

larry and was being kept at the time and did

1:06:14

manage to like get

1:06:16

onto his back which is a seat like

1:06:19

you know like not every target area has the ability

1:06:21

to be able to write a dragon like that what

1:06:24

it says that like basically like he only

1:06:27

flew for like a short amount of time and that

1:06:29

the sarah's felt like

1:06:31

the dragon was basically like too old and kind

1:06:33

of like dragging a little bit

1:06:35

and

1:06:37

that was the last time that anybody ever wrote him

1:06:39

and then valerian died like a year

1:06:41

later so i kind of get they

1:06:43

don't really say this explicitly in the books are in the

1:06:45

show yeah but you trying to get the impression that the saracens

1:06:48

like

1:06:48

a little bit afraid

1:06:51

rak live like riding a dragon against

1:06:53

him like he's making it probably wouldn't

1:06:55

be hard for him to like find another dragon took

1:06:57

around to but he now that and

1:07:00

like lane is kind of like all excited

1:07:02

about the idea that he was the last winter i bleriot and

1:07:04

mothers' is just kind of like oh yeah

1:07:06

now that group

1:07:08

and i'm like reagan suit their the ponies

1:07:10

of western us you know and he

1:07:12

was ah there's a scene

1:07:14

between

1:07:16

the

1:07:17

the euro and

1:07:21

rainy rain is my so

1:07:24

, to reestablish

1:07:26

rainier is obviously the daughter of osiris the

1:07:28

king rain is is ah

1:07:31

the king has the king yes who

1:07:33

knew that we ran water yeah he

1:07:35

the granddaughter of looking

1:07:39

to harris the harris who we saw

1:07:41

in the very first scene of a series of yeah

1:07:43

i and she was passover to be and

1:07:46

they have a the have a neat the the

1:07:48

it's a great topic is issues like a all

1:07:50

is not well in the family this tension and

1:07:53

see basically says that they

1:07:56

wouldn't have these men would rather burn asking them to

1:07:58

the ground than see a woman there's

1:08:00

a ruler yeah which

1:08:03

the strikes me as pretty

1:08:07

not a reasonable position but certainly a very

1:08:09

accurate

1:08:10

based on yeah seen the show my

1:08:11

yeah and she really lays out

1:08:14

basically like the order of operations

1:08:16

from the point

1:08:18

i'm assuming that that the ferris is going

1:08:20

to remarry which we learned the end of the end of the

1:08:22

episode he has every intention to which is that

1:08:25

as soon as he has another

1:08:27

direct

1:08:28

male air

1:08:30

that will be rainier as step

1:08:33

no half brother

1:08:35

the

1:08:36

rainy says just like as soon as he does

1:08:38

actually per

1:08:39

the use a true board male heir

1:08:41

your claim to the iron throne will not be taken

1:08:44

seriously anymore by a vast majority

1:08:46

of the people who have

1:08:47

who should support you know we

1:08:50

just a backup your kind of a backup

1:08:52

you're the you're the understudy to

1:08:54

be somewhere basically

1:08:56

yeah and rainier a kind of tries to say like

1:08:58

well when i'm queen or make a new order and it's

1:09:00

big a danny

1:09:01

they could daily by l a

1:09:04

daily lives

1:09:05

how bout all know how well that went

1:09:08

on blu

1:09:10

yeah by rubbery conversations yeah

1:09:12

yeah i love love love the attention

1:09:15

you know and it obviously has some very unfortunate

1:09:17

residences with our society today that you

1:09:19

are living in so minimum

1:09:24

people wanting to burn the whole thing

1:09:26

to the ground rather than elect a woman i've never

1:09:28

heard of such a thing anyway

1:09:30

the

1:09:31

and rainy sir i think

1:09:33

you're good

1:09:35

i did keep going on candid

1:09:37

that i would get a thanks i mentioned our

1:09:39

twitter spaces tell us they by i talked

1:09:41

with that's you plays rainiest i'm

1:09:44

before the season started at a around

1:09:47

table interview and she said that

1:09:49

she thinks the rainiest as kind of being

1:09:51

like hillary clinton of like

1:09:53

the

1:09:55

a up a potential candidate for

1:09:57

power who was passed over and then hostile

1:09:59

remain in the

1:10:01

medical spotlight and just kind of like

1:10:04

grin and bear it through understanding

1:10:06

that she was not chosen so month

1:10:08

fact from the actress who plays

1:10:11

rainy there we get

1:10:13

a little bit more a more a more

1:10:15

seasons the serious now since

1:10:19

he's telling he literally telling

1:10:21

everyone about his plan to

1:10:23

potentially remarry and she's like i'm

1:10:25

sure that's going to be great you know is

1:10:28

he's gonna love spending time with you just like me

1:10:31

it's like i'm hoping that shoot

1:10:33

right like was he hoping that has you know like

1:10:35

honestly no please don't hurt

1:10:38

the mirror how close you

1:10:41

yeah now

1:10:42

instead she had literally like making

1:10:44

her fingers bleed

1:10:46

the under the table because she has clearly

1:10:48

so uncomfortable in

1:10:50

this continued position that you've been put in

1:10:52

unlike the know the right things to say she's

1:10:55

very supportive like

1:10:57

i love that she doesn't says all the

1:10:59

right things that

1:11:00

korea and who's having

1:11:02

having a hard time making a decision what i hear she's very

1:11:04

encouraging she's very reassuring and

1:11:06

yet we know that she is like literally

1:11:09

harming hurts the hope like behavior

1:11:12

hi and outside of the thirds

1:11:14

as view

1:11:15

because it isn't her preferred

1:11:17

lunch time partner

1:11:19

i would guess when we did a twitter speechless

1:11:21

i i was like i was thinking to myself that

1:11:24

i think else and israeli

1:11:26

inscrutable with we don't really get a sense of how

1:11:28

see experiences i've cut as

1:11:31

revise their position i think that the seen that really

1:11:33

a market for me is when he

1:11:35

talks to auto rate and yeah

1:11:38

he is he says he says going to go see

1:11:40

viscera since he says if you wish she

1:11:43

says it in a way that makes me feel like

1:11:45

he is

1:11:47

he would only do it if he if he was like

1:11:49

see she's not going there over own volition

1:11:52

right right and even though

1:11:54

you don't really see her struggle with other than

1:11:56

picking her fingernails that was

1:11:58

the scene that i'm like okay if if i go back everything

1:12:00

about seems he's clearly not

1:12:02

super happy with any of his but she's playing the

1:12:04

part the a very fine line to walk

1:12:06

rate it she's doing all the right thing is

1:12:09

being encouraging his being nice everything but

1:12:11

she's also not happy with it and kind of that yeah that

1:12:14

that ultimately where i think that character lands for the

1:12:16

so anyway yeah

1:12:18

totally

1:12:19

it it comes out that

1:12:22

dame and has snuck in stolen

1:12:24

the little dragon egg out of

1:12:26

the

1:12:27

from the dragon keepers

1:12:30

linda like how how did you steal

1:12:32

an egg how did the you know david ocean's

1:12:34

eleven a dragon egg from under six

1:12:36

dragons and

1:12:39

but it is emitted into

1:12:41

somebody said only not a good

1:12:44

he's like is the him and he left the know as though like

1:12:46

that explains oh it's dame and

1:12:48

that's how do they will be you know and

1:12:51

maybe like demon pulled rank you know or maybe

1:12:53

he had his gold cloaks with him so he knows that isn't

1:12:55

the worst sure explanation but said

1:12:57

he anyone a dragon rider so like he

1:12:59

wouldn't see or

1:13:01

ensuring that space and the way the like a normal

1:13:03

person

1:13:04

yeah right

1:13:06

it comes out that

1:13:09

the egg that was taken

1:13:11

was for a dragon called dream fire

1:13:13

which was the one that was chosen for prince

1:13:16

bail on who is now deceased this

1:13:18

is the thing that

1:13:21

rainy or a cure is the most part she's very upset by

1:13:24

the fact that it's the

1:13:26

umpires egg so

1:13:28

they're like we gotta go on and away mission and

1:13:30

canvassers like i'm going to go myself and auto

1:13:33

actually the only literally the smartest

1:13:35

freaking thing he does this episode is a don't

1:13:38

go it's too dangerous which is like the

1:13:41

only piece of good advice he has this episode yeah

1:13:44

and so auto goes unsaid they

1:13:46

go and meet a dragon so because

1:13:50

the demon has now now and only

1:13:52

occupying greg and sewn illegally

1:13:55

but he has stolen an egg

1:13:57

which is obviously going to grow to be very powerful

1:13:59

and it is an egg that has a lot of emotional meaning

1:14:02

to the other tiger into the show

1:14:04

and so it's like okay this he

1:14:06

has gone too far now he's gone to for

1:14:09

yeah it's like you've been growing

1:14:11

a little tantrum over on dragon stone

1:14:13

and like really wanted to

1:14:15

get the theres of the touch and and i think

1:14:17

i knew that going and stealing bail

1:14:19

on

1:14:20

eg

1:14:21

would finally get some sort of like in

1:14:24

first response from his brother

1:14:27

they have a big confrontation a dragon stone or

1:14:29

we see again the up they drag it's a we already talked

1:14:31

about how meeting looks but i just loved like everything

1:14:33

about the seen a production wise

1:14:36

spectacular looking

1:14:38

the runway note about lakes however

1:14:40

had

1:14:41

there you go please

1:14:42

either they i love obviously with game

1:14:44

of thrones that the idea of like characters

1:14:46

teleporting was brought up a lot like

1:14:49

the fact that they would be like very far

1:14:51

away from their next location and unlike if we appear

1:14:53

their which the television people applied

1:14:55

for i do love that they show auto like

1:14:58

preparing to leave the castle at what seems

1:15:00

to be like dark of night to me

1:15:02

and then it's like sunrise at

1:15:04

dragon so when the ship is there and i just love

1:15:07

this the choice of that because it makes the lighting

1:15:09

so beautiful i loved like the ocean fog

1:15:11

that kind of like hanging over the castle and likes

1:15:14

the idea that auto you know sailed

1:15:16

through the night to get to dragons earnest soon as possible

1:15:19

and and it's now dawn when they're all meeting

1:15:23

they have a very tense confrontation and

1:15:25

i'm going to say i don't think auto acquit themselves particularly

1:15:28

well themselves is really inflate

1:15:30

he he auto needs the

1:15:32

lesson in the escalation tactics

1:15:35

that is lily inflame yeah things

1:15:37

right he's got saying like you're

1:15:39

here with your whore and you

1:15:41

this is an insult to the king and

1:15:43

if he's not the escalating

1:15:45

right he now the only are used

1:15:48

in literally trying to get everyone kills you know like

1:15:50

is that what is that goal was exceedingly

1:15:52

go there with a dragon that's the thing is like the

1:15:57

whole time as one of you that why didn't they bring a dragon

1:15:59

and i don't my aunt because

1:16:01

because auto the like they we

1:16:03

damon would not dare kill

1:16:05

me because if he killed me he basically

1:16:08

giving himself yes he was but he would

1:16:10

be doing is of that day unless

1:16:12

you had a dragon with you if in

1:16:15

so maybe that is no the he's

1:16:17

going he's going is kind of

1:16:19

the

1:16:21

insulting dame in and his yeah

1:16:25

remove that like care i

1:16:27

love i love that you picked that audio clip

1:16:30

of it's over there to be like even start a war and david

1:16:32

got a wonderful amateur athlete

1:16:34

and mother's s exactly what you

1:16:36

want for example you're

1:16:38

not winning any arguments here auto of

1:16:41

i love

1:16:41

in calling

1:16:43

kristen call sir crispin

1:16:48

i'm , woman isn't isn't

1:16:50

christie cool can kinda you

1:16:52

know through hands as well right he's like

1:16:55

oh yeah i remember me knocking you off your

1:16:57

horse and it's like dude kristen your

1:16:59

inflaming thing sooth none of you know

1:17:01

what you're doing here now anyway and

1:17:04

now so then rainier of the

1:17:06

only person the smartest person shows up with

1:17:08

a dragon the entrance is amazing you

1:17:10

see the clouds like memorial page is

1:17:13

totally bad ass

1:17:14

and i love her like

1:17:17

the whole dragon get up to it

1:17:19

uses it reminds you of like danny's

1:17:21

target area in in a geiger

1:17:23

on geiger get a lot in gray yeah very black

1:17:25

race scale he looks really bad ass so

1:17:28

yeah mobile that yeah yeah

1:17:30

and had intervened saves autos

1:17:32

ass

1:17:33

hey want to just kill

1:17:35

me now it's get it over with and it

1:17:38

doesn't because why is

1:17:40

that why don't why don't you think you get will all be

1:17:42

sued mean certain death for him at that time right

1:17:44

but true and i

1:17:46

think the think the likes

1:17:48

the near a lake i know that this seemed as

1:17:50

a good job of showing that like the target audience

1:17:52

kind of have their own

1:17:54

the inner circle of dynamics

1:17:57

cultural practices and important like again

1:17:59

of next they're speaking high valerian to each

1:18:01

other auto can't understand the converse

1:18:03

the shin bet they're having with one

1:18:06

another

1:18:06

lily and you see how that the you see

1:18:08

how that bothers him that he cannot control

1:18:11

ray neera in this situation and because she

1:18:13

actually has the upper hand because

1:18:15

she has an existing positive

1:18:18

relationship with her uncle seen

1:18:21

also a dragon and

1:18:23

, a huge dragon ah

1:18:26

it's incredible and i think i think that

1:18:28

the scene does a lot of good work in proving

1:18:30

that her

1:18:31

previous suggestion of using dragon

1:18:33

riders when needed is correct that

1:18:35

like she has good and

1:18:36

the inks mutually assured destruction

1:18:39

is a very logical

1:18:41

geopolitical strategy i think is moving

1:18:44

what does shows position is so yeah

1:18:47

it gives back the eggs does not surrender

1:18:50

drip a dragon so know but gives back the egg

1:18:52

and then as then as seem with miss area

1:18:54

where

1:18:56

he's pissed because it what it what dame

1:18:58

has done his claim

1:19:00

that

1:19:01

they're getting married and she's pregnant with his

1:19:03

child she has yeah that and

1:19:05

then when years like her pregnant

1:19:07

the

1:19:08

it clear that she's not pregnant

1:19:10

if we to this point

1:19:12

then she gets really upset because she doesn't

1:19:15

even know about this machination yeah

1:19:17

, says he gives his whole speech

1:19:20

whereas , that sees

1:19:23

the really she wanted to be with damon with safety which

1:19:25

first of all really , questions judgment

1:19:28

arab this area like like the strike

1:19:30

you as the most balanced com individual

1:19:34

but office her but also reasonable

1:19:37

point do not want to be lied about the

1:19:39

state of your womb she

1:19:41

kind of implies that she

1:19:43

is sterile oh or has been sterilized

1:19:45

ray at an interview caught that or

1:19:48

if i had a little bit about

1:19:50

she said i see the

1:19:52

made sure i would never be threatened by

1:19:54

childbirth is what he says now i don't

1:19:56

know if you speaking biologically or

1:19:59

if she speaking in some their capacity but

1:20:01

i interpreted that as her thing like i literally

1:20:03

can't have children i don't know

1:20:06

if that's true enough but

1:20:07

and i kind of understand like her point

1:20:09

of like you're putting me at risk because like

1:20:12

i would basically be

1:20:13

hunted for

1:20:15

like you know i could have an assassin sent

1:20:17

after me by like the king's men or something

1:20:21

oh yeah weird weird

1:20:24

dynamic that they're setting up there for sure

1:20:27

speaking of weird things missouri

1:20:29

as accent

1:20:30

that are

1:20:32

principal i think and the

1:20:34

i don't know we'd go too much into it but we

1:20:36

had lot of people guessing as to what the exit my be

1:20:38

some people hard to make in some people heard friend

1:20:40

some people heard spanish

1:20:42

and french i think someone

1:20:45

the just that or something i don't know they

1:20:47

also had her in the books she's from lease

1:20:50

which is a city and eso the

1:20:52

and enough little in part of her monologues

1:20:54

she says that like she's been sold and

1:20:57

moved them a times that she can't even remember her homeland

1:20:59

anymore so like

1:21:01

i guess it makes sense of it's a little bit of like

1:21:03

of a melting

1:21:04

combo of accents but yeah i'm

1:21:07

i found myself

1:21:10

confused by the choice because

1:21:11

stand out in a way that

1:21:13

i don't think it should do like i think

1:21:15

that there there was probably in my

1:21:17

opinion a way to give her some accent that like still

1:21:20

places her within

1:21:21

solid contacts and instead

1:21:24

it right the understand and

1:21:26

i'm at this point would rat i think rather

1:21:28

that snow mizuno was a speaking in her own

1:21:31

british accent she may maybe we'll to

1:21:33

you know it's it's not unheard

1:21:35

of for characters to change accents when

1:21:38

they realize that it doesn't work you

1:21:40

know and so hopefully they

1:21:42

do that i felt very bad

1:21:44

for senior mizuno is like i

1:21:47

feel like the show people show runners

1:21:49

kind of hung out to dry because it's because

1:21:51

terrible accident it's nearly incomprehensible

1:21:54

she's the one has that kind of bear

1:21:56

the brunt of criticism for criticism even though it's

1:21:58

not her decision so

1:21:59

she's a great actor

1:22:02

and

1:22:03

deserves better than than the accent

1:22:05

but she's been given so yeah

1:22:07

a okay when

1:22:09

it rained your adversaries have a big confrontation

1:22:12

over the fact that he violated

1:22:15

his orders and in danger herself and he

1:22:17

says you're my only air even though have been

1:22:19

treating you that way at all

1:22:20

the and

1:22:22

they have a a kind

1:22:24

of hard to hardware he's like hey if i did get

1:22:26

married like would you be cool a third she's like of

1:22:28

course i completely understand

1:22:31

any decision you would ever make unless

1:22:33

you're doing something so ridiculous and i'm just throwing

1:22:35

this other as of example as such as marrying my

1:22:37

friend smell like if

1:22:39

you did anything other than other than totally

1:22:42

understandable

1:22:43

the

1:22:46

now anyway

1:22:48

yeah if only if only she had

1:22:50

thought to added that

1:22:52

we ought to her desire

1:22:54

to marry then marry then have been like oh

1:22:57

so that would bother you oh

1:23:00

that man knew what he was still egg

1:23:04

i'd keep as i do not wish to make us a strange

1:23:07

ah

1:23:08

well brzeski your actions kind of television

1:23:10

sorry there because what the heck

1:23:12

did you think with going to happen

1:23:14

he i'm very nothing

1:23:16

will call

1:23:17

he calls rainier or he's

1:23:19

like oh i forget sometimes that you're a woman

1:23:21

grown and i'm like very convenient of you to think

1:23:23

of your fourteen or fifteen year old daughter as

1:23:25

a grown

1:23:26

then because you about to marry her pier

1:23:29

than wedding

1:23:31

then at the same time like earlier in the scene

1:23:33

early on the episode he says like oh don't worry

1:23:35

you're young you'll learn it's like

1:23:37

these men pick and choose when

1:23:39

they want to treat teenage girls

1:23:42

as women depending on how politically

1:23:44

advantage adventure

1:23:45

that would be

1:23:47

and i hit man so

1:23:49

more be a service hours

1:23:52

the series has a small council meeting aka

1:23:54

the awarding of the rose

1:23:58

at the bachelor those

1:24:00

edition and on it they

1:24:03

have this big conversation

1:24:06

where he is like i've decided to take it you wife and like

1:24:08

the way it's edited is just three

1:24:10

out of a reality tv shows like i

1:24:12

choose and then you cut to like every single

1:24:15

person's face in the room ah

1:24:17

sue

1:24:19

alison hightower edits like

1:24:22

and they be shocked i'm not here to

1:24:24

make friends but dot thought that you know what it

1:24:28

yeah alyson

1:24:31

wins the is the rose

1:24:33

and auto has amazing

1:24:35

moment where he said that he flashes a smile

1:24:37

i corliss it's like the my smile imaginable

1:24:40

ah the air

1:24:43

or this is piss

1:24:45

the am not happy with his offer has

1:24:47

been spurned and

1:24:51

when euro is upset

1:24:54

what they really are a man

1:24:56

alice and are upset

1:24:59

well it's it's true and

1:25:01

i think i'll send is very good at controlling her emotions

1:25:03

right in pohlad yeah but

1:25:06

yes alice's yes alice's also not feeling

1:25:08

great about it

1:25:11

and

1:25:14

the nearest storms out of the room in this

1:25:16

earth like what you are bother that your

1:25:18

best friends now about to become your step mom

1:25:21

you cannot fathom such a thing

1:25:23

madam and other so

1:25:25

and you also like not only because

1:25:27

again like rainiest made this point very

1:25:29

clear to a nearby before it's like it's not just

1:25:32

okay you've now chicken my best friend and made her my

1:25:34

step mom but like you take my best friend and made

1:25:36

her my stepmom with the intention of getting

1:25:39

her pregnant as soon as possible

1:25:41

the right and use and usurping my place

1:25:43

as the rifle air base

1:25:45

rubbing her point but putting her in danger

1:25:47

like rainier is still grieving the death of her

1:25:49

mother who just died in childbirth flag

1:25:52

now her best friends

1:25:53

the be up for the

1:25:55

the little spin the wheel and see of this pregnancy

1:25:58

killed

1:25:58

you game like

1:26:00

terrible terrible on all accounts

1:26:02

this is

1:26:02

i i truly felt rainier heartbreak

1:26:05

in that moment i think that they did a really good job of

1:26:08

making understand how devastating

1:26:10

that's gonna feel to her

1:26:13

agreed

1:26:14

final scene

1:26:15

corliss is talking with someone

1:26:17

i'm serious person there's a really lovely

1:26:20

shot of this skull

1:26:22

with

1:26:24

barnacles on it greatly go statue

1:26:26

of articles on

1:26:27

yeah i kind of reminded me of like a said

1:26:29

should have been dug up after

1:26:32

like the fall of rome or something

1:26:34

that like had been on the sea floor and

1:26:36

it's like suffered and barnacles now and is now like a

1:26:38

decorative

1:26:39

the peace in the room

1:26:41

that and like a little skull with like a bunch of

1:26:43

teeth that i don't know if i was was be a dragon scholar

1:26:45

some other creature skull

1:26:48

i do love that

1:26:50

of this show seems be taking

1:26:53

a lot of time to reflect on the contributions

1:26:55

of the class people who are making all the all

1:26:57

the set design stuff right last

1:27:01

that that stuff's too early today like

1:27:03

close of shod close up shot of this statue

1:27:05

of cup barnacle in it's like it's really

1:27:07

dwelling on these things in a way that most

1:27:10

is not much as it is be like hey it's in the background

1:27:12

it's part of the atmosphere but like someone freakin

1:27:15

spent hours like applying

1:27:18

plastic barnacles to this statue

1:27:20

him it's like the show an honoring that and

1:27:22

so i like the yeah it's a great it's

1:27:24

a great sun setting choice i

1:27:26

think for all the various locations it

1:27:28

makes the world feel very live then so

1:27:32

corliss talks about how he worked himself

1:27:34

up from nothing any kind of

1:27:36

explains that he and dame and we've always

1:27:38

been underestimated we had a weird

1:27:41

that we're self made man you and me let's

1:27:43

let's ally ourselves is

1:27:45

a great line where damon

1:27:48

said something along the lines of it was never my brother

1:27:50

strongest trace and corliss is

1:27:52

what being king

1:27:54

oh very slim from

1:27:57

or and

1:28:00

for the like a week we had are we

1:28:02

gonna join forces because he

1:28:04

damon you know i think you have a really

1:28:06

good clean to the throne and also i need

1:28:08

this crabeater dealt with yeah

1:28:11

and and that's primarily

1:28:13

why corliss why corliss to dame and like maybe damon

1:28:15

can help deal with the crabeater situation

1:28:17

yeah and just ah

1:28:20

continue to strengthen his position

1:28:22

i think by having allies i think corliss

1:28:24

knows that his houses strength

1:28:27

depends on being respected

1:28:29

and allied with other people and

1:28:31

there is clearly just like gave him the big

1:28:33

middle finger

1:28:35

he goes to find the next best thing

1:28:37

which is

1:28:40

i will love them i love how like quotes

1:28:42

kind of starts shit talking and

1:28:44

then dame and like i will speak

1:28:46

that my brother how i want you

1:28:48

well not and sort of like sets of a boundary

1:28:51

of like yeah and

1:28:52

then that were about to both be working together against

1:28:55

my brother however

1:28:56

i get to do it for petty reasons and

1:28:58

you don't flag i may end up

1:29:00

in fact murdering my brother ice i

1:29:02

david chang don't know whether that's like

1:29:04

i may end up killing him but you

1:29:07

will not speak ill of him in my presence

1:29:11

of so for which fair enough furnace

1:29:13

is furnace is something you talk about earlier

1:29:15

with like the character speaking valerian is there

1:29:17

is an in group and in out group ray

1:29:20

and yeah you're in the tiger

1:29:22

in family you know you are in this in group

1:29:25

the

1:29:27

everyone else

1:29:29

the off you know don't don't come near us

1:29:31

some yeah everyone else was at the mercy

1:29:33

of how the target area and are feeling at any point

1:29:38

any other thoughts on season one episode two

1:29:40

of has a dragon camera

1:29:42

the last thing i guess the

1:29:44

last like little detail what we see like a shot

1:29:46

of of the crab theater at the very and

1:29:48

there and it looks like he has grayscale the

1:29:52

which is recognizable from and game of

1:29:54

thrones when search or i hadn't like that

1:29:56

sort of like patchy

1:29:58

wound looking thing all over his

1:29:59

like face a mask gnarly

1:30:03

the yeah

1:30:04

they're ready for more

1:30:05

more crabs theater in your life

1:30:08

really buy into this episode

1:30:10

i'm psyched yeah i think they

1:30:13

they probably shuttle that crabeater stuff at

1:30:15

the same time my and then it's

1:30:17

interesting you know they take all the footage with

1:30:20

lot of different angles me sprinkler throughout the episode

1:30:22

and a kind of gives it this nice

1:30:24

feel so the cool editing decision

1:30:26

so overall saw an episode

1:30:29

some ups some down

1:30:31

remember loved it i liked a lot

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