0:00

This, this, this, this is

0:02

mythical. Josh,

0:05

I don't know if you know this, but

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a lot of people have this like strong

0:09

fear of carbs. It's crazy out there, Nicole. People are scared

0:11

of a lot of stuff. Yeah, it's weird, but the thing

0:13

is like carb heavy foods are the foods that

0:15

we, especially you and I, like love the most.

0:18

They make you feel good. They make me feel good.

0:20

But I feel that same thing, which is why we

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have great news, hero bread. Yeah,

0:24

hero bread. They're taking those typically very carb

0:26

rich foods and they're throwing a ton of fiber

0:29

in them. I'm telling you, I have never seen

0:31

macros. Nicole, you're a lot of macros, right? I'm

0:33

sorry? Macro

0:35

nutrients I have never seen. There are

0:38

only 16 carbs in their tortilla, 15

0:41

grams of fiber, not enough Americans to get in

0:43

fiber. Yeah, yeah. And it like zeros

0:45

out almost. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. I

0:48

was looking at the packaging and I'm like, how does this

0:50

work? And then they wrote it out and it made so

0:52

much sense. It's only one net carb, I guess. And I

0:54

made a breakfast burrito with it. And I'll tell you

0:56

what, that is a damn good tortilla. It's

0:59

like a lot of protein in it too. I

1:02

am not BSing anybody, I would not BS the

1:04

BSer out here. I'm fully switching all my

1:06

tortilla needs over to hero bread now. No way.

1:08

Yeah, I mean, I'm always looking for a way

1:10

to get fiber. I eat 200 grams of protein a

1:12

day. That's a hard thing to get in your diet.

1:14

And they were able to make a product that you

1:17

get all of that tortilla pliability, all of that comfort

1:19

that you want in a handheld food. And

1:21

you're actually getting a bunch of nutrition from it, which is

1:23

super rare. Yeah, and they're delicious and flavorful. Like I'm

1:25

sure that breakfast burrito was really bomb, right? Oh, it

1:27

was great, but that's because I'm a great cook. You

1:30

know what I did? I did, I took old

1:32

meatball mixture. Oh yeah. And I sort of seared

1:34

that like a breakfast sausage. Okay, yeah. Put a

1:36

little bit of marinara sauce on a breakfast burrito

1:38

super underrated. Damn, that sounds fricking

1:40

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I'm talking about the Rudy Tutti Fresh and Fruity. Oh,

1:58

I prefer to get Grand Slam. Ew! This

2:02

is a hot dog as a sandwich!

2:04

This is meaty! Yeah, but I can

2:06

material for the wet. That

2:08

makes no sense. A hot dog is

2:10

a sandwich. What? Welcome

2:14

to our podcast, A Hot Dog as a Sandwich, the show

2:16

we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host,

2:18

Josh Hehrer. And I'm your host, I guess,

2:20

Nicole and I.D. I guess. I guess. You

2:22

didn't like my joke? Um, well

2:24

no, I just feel like you should explain to

2:27

people what getting grand slammed is. It means

2:31

going to Denny's and eating

2:33

breakfast. Yeah, so it means when you go into

2:35

the Denny's bathroom, right? What you're gonna do is you're gonna

2:37

slide your foot underneath the bathroom stall, and then that way,

2:40

the rooty-tooty fresh and fresh. No, that's IHOP.

2:43

Today, Nicole. What's up? We're discussing

2:45

the two biggest pancake juggernauts in the

2:47

entire game. Not only are they pancake

2:49

juggernauts, though, but they are family-style,

2:54

diner-adjacent restaurant chains in America.

2:56

Uh-huh. And those words mean

2:58

something, I swear to you. Yeah, one

3:00

of them is an international house on pancakes, and one

3:02

of them is not. Ironically, both of

3:04

them are lowercase international houses of pancakes,

3:07

right? Yes, of course. Both of them

3:09

have several international locations, not a ton.

3:11

They're both in, like, maybe

3:13

the low hundreds or high two digits.

3:15

Sure. Um, both of them

3:18

have somewhat equivalent numbers in America.

3:20

Denny's is about 1,500, IHOP is about 1,900, and

3:22

their revenue is, yeah, they're

3:26

a lot closer than I thought. For some reason,

3:28

I thought Denny's was bigger

3:30

than IHOP. I consider Denny's to be

3:32

more ubiquitous than IHOP. Really?

3:34

Yeah, do you? I think, I

3:36

guess, I don't travel much, so I see a

3:38

lot more IHOPs. Or maybe my eye is just

3:41

geared towards looking at more IHOPs. Whoa.

3:44

I don't know why. I just think it's, I

3:46

think the iconicism of IHOP versus Denny's is, like,

3:48

obvious to me, at least. I always said the

3:50

opposite, where I thought Denny's was a lot more icon- What? You

3:53

know what I think it is? Why? Because

3:55

he's a American boomer dad. I didn't. I

3:57

grew up with an immigrant father. That's

3:59

funny. I think I came at this from

4:01

a whole different perspective because Denny's

4:03

Denny started a little bit earlier than I

4:05

hope Denny started in 1953

4:08

in Lakewood, California like what's like around

4:11

the corner like South LA okay,

4:13

so so you're going you so we are

4:15

going to Mar Vista,

4:17

but you make a left well

4:19

yeah, but it's south too right. I don't think all right

4:22

I don't think people care What

4:24

is I'm telling it's a late Denny started

4:26

in LA in 1953 it was originally

4:29

called Danny's donuts Was it

4:31

a donut shop? Yeah? It was a donut and coffee

4:33

shop. No way yeah, and you know

4:35

who Danny is Danny Palumbo

4:37

former Danny

4:40

DeVito no nobody knows who Danny is they

4:42

just named it Danny's because it was the

4:44

name right name There's a lot of Daniels and

4:46

Danny's in the world there sure are they probably

4:48

wanted an all-American name that is I

4:52

have a do you ever forget you have a middle name remember

4:54

me I am no mr. I'm you did not fall I am

4:56

Miriam till the day I also see my real

4:58

name Did you know that no

5:01

it was very key break my

5:03

parents wanted to name me Miriam or Mariam and

5:05

then my sisters like no We're giving

5:07

her an American name because there's a pretty girl in

5:09

school named Nicole And we're gonna name the

5:11

baby after her and what

5:14

are your siblings names, Sanna

5:16

man, Salar And I'm Salar

5:18

Nicole yeah, and I'm Nicole

5:20

the American baby So

5:23

anyways they eventually changed their name to Denny's

5:26

in 1961 because there

5:28

was another spot in LA just got like

5:30

Dan's coffee to sure so there's like nothing

5:32

behind the name five years later 1958

5:34

is when I hop opens so they're pretty

5:36

close contemporaries you see this big boom

5:39

in chain restaurants after World War two Right

5:41

so you get in and out that

5:44

starting at the same time Taco Bell is right at the

5:46

same time McDonald's But this is like the fast casual version

5:49

Yeah, I'm sure when it first came out It was

5:51

like a big deal like to get coffee and pancakes

5:53

at like a franchise place a hundred percent And

5:55

they started they started franchising super super quickly

5:57

in 1981 so like 23

6:00

years they reached their thousandth location.

6:02

Denny's? Which is crazy because right now

6:05

they're only at like 1500. So

6:07

Denny's had a super fast boom which makes sense why

6:09

I consider Denny's to be the juggernaut because my dad

6:12

grew up going to Denny's. And did you go to

6:14

Denny's with him? Oh my god all the time. Right? Because

6:17

kids ate super cheap, right? Oh yeah!

6:19

Denny's does that like, it's like seniors and

6:21

young people like under six or something you

6:23

eat free for if you're under five? Yeah, yeah and

6:25

I probably have like a veteran discount and my dad had

6:27

that too. You know so Denny's was

6:29

the ultimate like boomer dad comfort. And I even

6:32

remember when Denny's in the early 2000s was trying

6:34

to like rebrand some of its locations to be

6:36

like a 50s style diner. And

6:38

so to me I have a lot of fond memories with Denny's but IHOP

6:41

is really the juggernaut. I thought IHOP was

6:43

the underdog in this situation. They are not.

6:45

That's so interesting. They are not at all. They

6:48

have IHOP about geez and rice three billion dollars

6:50

in sales in 2021 is the data we're going

6:53

off of. Pretty damn impressive. Denny's about

6:55

2.5 billion though. Not far behind. Very

6:58

closely by Cracker Barrel. Cracker Barrel is the third.

7:00

Dude. But we didn't really grow up with Cracker

7:02

Barrel. I've never, okay let me tell you, I've never been to Cracker Barrel. I've

7:04

never been to, what is the Old Spaghetti Factory? I

7:06

don't think they're in the same echelon thing. No, yeah, they are. They're

7:09

all like these like, they're like cool, like not cool. They're

7:11

kind of themed. They're like iconic

7:14

Americana restaurants. It's like you're in a

7:16

small town like I don't know. It's

7:18

Akron a small town? Akron. Akron,

7:20

Ohio. It's a small town. Like it's probably pretty

7:23

big. Maggie, Google how many people are in Akron.

7:25

I'm going to say together. I don't know. I'm

7:28

going to say 220,000. Oh,

7:31

you're so close. I'm

7:33

pretty good at this. This is incredible. Okay,

7:36

what about, okay, Canton, Ohio. It looks like it's lower. What's

7:38

Canton? We're like 60? Okay,

7:40

yeah. Canton, Ohio probably has a- We're the

7:42

NFL Hall of Famers. No way. Jim Thorpe. Maybe

7:45

the greatest athlete of all time. I don't care at

7:47

all. He played for the Canton Bulldog. I don't care.

7:49

Oh, they have their- You don't care about

7:51

Jim Thorpe? I don't care about Thorpe. Dude, he was a Native

7:53

American hero. Wow, really? He was a Native

7:55

American hero. Okay, so maybe you could- But then he had

7:57

to give back the gold medals because he played professional, semi-professional

7:59

baseball. And when they found out but people think like yo

8:01

if he was white it would have slid That's

8:04

I wrote a book you sports. You can't get

8:06

into the Hall of Fame until like 1992 You

8:10

know Michael Jordan until 1992 you could not be

8:12

in the Olympics if you were a professional athlete

8:14

It was only amateurs no way yeah, and there's

8:16

still certain sports like that like I believe boxing

8:18

is that way in the Olympics Okay, so if

8:20

you're a really good boxer, and you want to

8:23

win Olympic gold medal You basically have to forego

8:25

your pro career. I had that is insane so

8:27

1992 I'm pretty sure because

8:29

of like unfair advantages. No. It's like to uphold the

8:31

sanctity of Stupid

8:34

1992 was the first time I believe

8:36

that so all of the Basketball

8:39

players to the American Olympic team used to be college kids because

8:41

they couldn't get paid at the time either 1992

8:43

first time they let the pros in and that

8:46

is Michael Jordan Charles Barkley the whole freaking dream

8:48

team I know about and they kept one college

8:50

kid on just to be like a he was

8:52

in Christian Leighton or useless everyone

8:54

hates Christian Leighton Okay, let's talk more about

8:56

like things that I know Sorry,

8:59

I got caught up so so

9:01

small town America America they have

9:03

these cool restaurants like Old Spaghetti Factory

9:05

and Macaroni Rapal what is it? There's

9:07

like a macaroni store is a macaroni

9:10

store That's what it's called yeah, they call

9:12

ye ye olde macaroni store and stores filled

9:14

with two R's and an E And

9:18

I feel like living in LA never got to go to

9:20

those like small town things Which sucks,

9:23

but I feel like I happen Denny's are

9:25

the closest things that I got to experience

9:27

Yeah, no, I agree with that and I've been to several

9:30

cracker barrels because I used to go to like Allentown,

9:32

Pennsylvania. I think I want to one. Don't they

9:34

have a cool game the peg game. Yeah, they

9:36

do They do they have a little board games. They've

9:39

a little country store Oh, well, awful house is in

9:41

a distant fourth place with 1.2 billion in sales. I

9:43

want to one in Aurora, Colorado it

9:46

was Very strange.

9:49

What time did you go? I probably

9:51

like 11 a.m. Pretty hungover and the server comes

9:53

my only waffle house experience We ordered the house

9:55

we got it Flipped, flopped, chopped,

9:58

dipped, whatever the chunks. Image

10:01

group that on the on the hash browns

10:03

we got every got a waffle they had

10:05

which was like two kinds of awful normal

10:07

and the gone on a real the server

10:09

came into through bunch of force and our

10:11

table through the say of through like unlike

10:13

unwrapped know napkins whatever are like out really

10:15

counts there and then she comes by holding

10:17

to burn waffles and ago they burnt your

10:19

waffles is that okay. Seismic.

10:22

Ah yes extenuate the worked muscles nicer, dead and

10:24

I had all the also the else I and

10:26

I love me some learn that runs within. a

10:28

cop came to the door. he goes hey. Has

10:30

anybody seen a mentally disturbed teens? And

10:33

we go. And the whole table reason

10:35

as nice assessments unless we are now

10:37

I have five Watch out the Roman

10:39

around a simple walked away very was

10:41

less experience anyway as. I.

10:44

Thought I have more than I go to

10:46

daddy's. Six Why do you think that as availability? Or

10:48

do you actively prefer it. Idles. So when

10:50

it comes to going out for whatever

10:52

kind of food, this is what's in

10:54

a food. Would you consider this. Is

10:56

this is it's not really scary

10:58

diner food. I guess you'd say

11:00

diner food buyer breakfast. Fair

11:02

Americana. We are here. It's

11:05

an it's unfortunate I don't find

11:07

myself. Attending either

11:09

of these places anymore? What

11:11

what hero for in that? Like a local diners. Yeah

11:13

as I go to a diner I go to

11:15

like a random crabby one x l a x

11:18

a pet pans pens may I have a well

11:20

wishers is not crappy at an alliance. Had copies

11:22

as very good and I loved it very much

11:24

and I can we to go back but like

11:26

I had to go to like more small. Like.

11:28

Places in L A that aren't merely corporations

11:30

but do. I guess I'm like driving around

11:32

and I see and hi hop I'm going

11:34

to Southern, I have more than I'm going

11:36

to stop at a Denny's. You. Know

11:38

same I have always very actively

11:41

preferred. I hop in. There's like

11:43

a very specific reason why I

11:45

syrups. As Zero Zero So

11:47

amazing to see. Ribs are symptomatic of

11:49

the larger. Reason and

11:51

that's his I hope to me when I

11:53

was a kid was always more epicurean. The.

11:56

Had Money is on the international Syrian

11:58

epicurean meaning like having an oven. old

12:00

tasting food and adventurous palette. Yeah,

12:02

Josh read books and he was

12:04

eight. Nicole, tell me what

12:06

dilettante meant today. I had a completely different definition of

12:08

my head for what a dilettante was. Nicole, tell me

12:10

what dilettante means. A

12:12

dilettante is someone who just very surface level

12:15

appreciates the art and like other things but

12:17

doesn't go in depth. Something

12:19

like a dabbler. A dilettante is a dabbler. Now

12:22

what is the rizzler? I

12:25

don't know, but you're so skibitty. Oh,

12:27

god, I hate that. Is

12:29

that a compliment? Saying skibitty? I don't

12:31

know. I don't want to live anywhere. I don't want

12:34

to live here anymore. What do you mean you don't want to live anymore? I don't

12:36

know. I said one word. The kids

12:38

are changing the language. Let them change it. So

12:40

fast and then it's going to change it and then

12:42

I'm just, there's no monoculture anymore. You know what I

12:44

mean? You can't reference. I could

12:47

like say a line from a sitcom

12:50

ten years ago, right? Yeah, say it. And

12:52

people know what it is. Say it. I would

12:54

just say like, day man. And then somebody would respond. Ah! Fighter

12:57

of the night man. Fighter of the night man.

12:59

Ah! You can't do that with any piece

13:01

of media anymore and it sucks and I hate

13:04

that. Especially in people who operate in pop culture.

13:06

What I'm saying is IHOP, they

13:08

had like an international menu of pancakes. You

13:10

had the normal menu of pancakes. They had

13:12

the international menu and they made like Swedish

13:14

lingonberry crepes. They made like, or no, Swedish

13:16

pancakes, they called them. And then they had

13:18

like um. Blinses. Do they have blinses?

13:20

They had blinses. That's pretty cool.

13:23

They had all the flavored syrups. So they

13:25

had boysenberry, they had strawberry, they had maple

13:27

and then the greatest syrups of all time

13:29

butter pecan. Butter pecan. Do you

13:32

say pecan or pecan? I say pecan. I say

13:34

butter pecan. You know pecan

13:36

is actually like a native, it's an indigenous

13:38

word. So is pecan proper or

13:40

is pecan proper? It's probably neither. It's like

13:42

the, you know the film festival, I'm gonna

13:45

pronounce it properly, can. Uh huh, the

13:47

can festival. Yeah, the can film festival. The

13:49

can. What about it? I had

13:51

an argument where people are like, it's can. And some

13:53

people are like, no it's can. And I'm like, no,

13:55

the French vowel sounds are just different. There's

13:57

no proper, the only way to pronounce it is in French, which is.

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16:17

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16:19

now I'll tell you this much. I'm sorry for fondling

16:21

the cakes, but I had to. The IHOP feels

16:24

like mattress foam. In a good way,

16:26

right? In a good way. It's like

16:28

springy. It's bouncy. It feels like they whipped

16:31

egg-wise, so obviously they did it. The

16:33

Denny's one, a little bit more flatter, a little bit

16:35

more sturdy, and more like a flapjack. More

16:37

like a flapjack. What's really interesting? Let's talk

16:39

pancake for pancake. I'm going to drop them,

16:41

okay? Go for it. Even if IHOP,

16:43

to me, they have the more decadent menu of

16:46

pancakes. You can get the New York cheesecake pancakes

16:48

right here. They look fancy. I love it. Right

16:51

here, we have the Mexican trace lay-chase pancake, not to

16:53

be confused with the Guatemalan taste. It

16:55

happens a lot. It happens a lot. I'm tired

16:57

of it. But, if

16:59

we're just talking pancake for pancake, this

17:02

is, let's say, 50% fluffier than this. Very

17:05

fluffy. You know what the crazy thing about that

17:07

is? What? This is allegedly 50% fluffier

17:10

than Denny's old pancakes. No

17:12

way. I believe it's 2015,

17:15

2016, Denny's spent millions upon millions of

17:17

dollars to completely redesign their pancakes. Okay,

17:19

I'm examining the pancakes. They promised 50%

17:22

more fluff because their stores were in

17:24

decline, the revenues were in decline, for

17:26

at least a decade. They were like, we need to

17:29

wage war against the IHOP. They redesigned

17:31

their pancakes and they offered a new menu of decadent

17:33

pancakes, which is why we have here, Nicole. It

17:36

just looks like this got grand slammed. I

17:39

was going to say the same thing. But

17:41

this is their salted caramel. Like looking into a

17:43

mirror. They had a pancake right here.

17:45

We should get into it. We should taste these. I'm

17:48

going to rip off a hunk. Yeah, do you want

17:50

some syrup from the IHOP? You want IHOP syrup? Well,

17:52

IHOP didn't give us butter, which I think is shady.

17:54

I don't need butter on my pancakes. I've never

17:56

been a buttered pancake guy. It's like fun, but

17:58

I'm really there for the bread. soaked in

18:00

syrup. That's fine. I shall follow.

18:02

I'm gonna smell the pancakes. I smell them.

18:04

Denny's so much artificial vanilla

18:07

extract. It smells suglier. Yeah, Denny's is

18:09

just, it smells like sugar and artificial

18:11

vanilla. Let's try the, wait I forgot

18:13

which one's which. Oh no!

18:16

Denny's pancake, let's try it. There's

18:18

a slight leathery chew to Denny's pancake, which

18:20

I do really like. Can you give me the Denny's

18:22

syrup? That's probably, thank you so much, excess

18:25

gluten development. Yeah. They probably agitated the batter a

18:27

whole lot. Some people don't like that, but I

18:29

love it because it reminds me of the pancakes

18:31

I ate growing up. Yeah, homestyle pancakes.

18:34

No, opposite. Divorced dad

18:36

pancakes. Opposite. Well, part of that. Married

18:38

dad pancakes. No, they weren't married for

18:40

very, I was only conscious for like one year when

18:42

my parents were married. What do you mean conscious? Like

18:44

the spark of consciousness hits you when you're like two

18:46

and a half, three. You

18:49

weren't conscious when you were like a six month old, right? What?

18:52

Am I being crazy? Like when, Maggie,

18:54

when did you reach consciousness? Three. No,

18:56

I don't know. I think, well, what's

18:58

your earliest memory? My third birthday. See?

19:01

Yeah, I was, my grandparents always used to have me a

19:04

good time. How old were you? Three

19:07

and four days. See? That's

19:09

when you become conscious. Oh, she's being silly.

19:11

She's BSing. Don't, Maggie, don't BS a BSer. Okay, okay. Next

19:14

time you want to BS a BSer, why don't you BS

19:16

each other and see how that feels? Do you know the

19:18

reference? No. Come on, please,

19:20

Jane Lynch. Oh, it's from the movie,

19:22

like role models. Yeah. Oh, the kids will never

19:24

know it. Go ahead. You were saying? So

19:26

I tasted the Denny's and I tasted the IHOP. I will

19:28

say the Denny's has a more, I can

19:31

taste the Leavening in Denny's more, which is

19:33

crazy because the IHOP is fluffier. IHOP

19:35

is so fluffy, but it

19:38

airs on biscuity to me. A little bit.

19:40

I can see that. If you look at the air

19:42

pockets in the IHOP one, it's

19:45

very synonymous with like a

19:47

biscuit. Look at

19:49

it. I don't know if that's just like, there's a

19:51

ton of hydrogenated oils in there probably. So

19:53

They keep the batter solid and thick. So

19:55

It mounds, but then when it heats, it

19:58

sort of melts and like evaporates crazy. Bogut.

20:01

I. Will say pancake for pancake. I

20:03

vastly prefer Denny's me too. Hot

20:05

they're not crazy Denny's what he did

20:07

see some more like leavening but also

20:09

tastes more like a pancake. The I

20:11

have one case a it's it's The

20:13

fluff factor is a little. Off

20:16

putting to me. This. The the

20:18

I hope pancakes taste like the best quick

20:20

pancakes and I divorced dad used to make

20:22

that is a divorce that pancakes but this

20:24

is the. Apogee,

20:27

Made. You look up apogee a p

20:30

a pillow or a P O G.

20:32

Ease of the apogee. To. Me:

20:35

Of divorce I think it's where's the Denny's on? These

20:37

are my me the frozen pancakes I grew up eating

20:40

but I do prefer the to I'd really like I

20:42

glued on days I. Get a like? Is that like.

20:44

It paid off the million dollars of

20:46

they spent. Our really paid off the

20:49

of work are indeed it works. Apogee

20:51

The highest point in the development of

20:53

something's the apogee of divorce that pancakes

20:55

with apathy, Isis or apotheosis, See is

20:58

not you're walking dictionary. I kind of

21:00

like the says he has a job.

21:03

Of thinking. Apotheosis. Yeah,

21:05

same thing as girls deciding between apogee

21:08

or apotheosis. To describe these different I

21:10

gave them with their. Got us

21:12

the suckers you doing. Saw

21:14

your are big slab as a d. S

21:17

blurred. I never. To class eighties. Know.

21:21

You think I would get away as a T? As I said that. Ah without a

21:23

twenty four hundred when we will take me Juri give

21:25

you twenty for hims were. It.

21:28

Was out of twenty four hundred a lot when we took

21:30

a we're in a weird period for the three years it

21:32

was that twenty four hundred and set of as sixteen hundred.

21:34

But I can. Lower. Joy to advertise

21:37

it as sixteen have. A. Gf thought I got

21:39

in the same. As they had a sixteen

21:41

hundred so I got likes if you average as

21:43

the I got like a fourteen hundred and of

21:45

years yeah you'd have a toilet. Seat

21:48

Twelve A real good test takers. I'm

21:50

Alexis. It's a secret. What does

21:53

that mean? That said, the know? that's the

21:55

answer to that know right? Urine we gave

21:57

us someone like did you test negative America

21:59

test. Well. How do you

22:01

mean? What a couple? Of hours and

22:04

okay to test taker as okay. Property.

22:07

As a good score. Yeah, as have made

22:10

of and I get in with that score brown.

22:12

Know. Like. Kelsey. Northridge each so much

22:14

I will I couldn't get of, I

22:16

couldn't even get in a brown was

22:19

an athletic scholarships or eating to do

22:21

so. Let's say Okay so. If

22:23

you're ordering plane pancakes will typically coming on

22:26

the side of your eggs with your hash

22:28

browns you begun cetera To me if I'm

22:30

going on spot like this on pick in

22:32

the dorm is pancake on the menu and

22:35

I'm ripping them stacks. I got to go

22:37

to eye on this passes for us. I'm

22:40

in my him aware and I'm my

22:42

humble pancakes. I want to just covered

22:44

in a swim of whatever the hell

22:46

videos sauce really doing they're actually button

22:48

translate in is your decision Ultras. as

22:50

mom mother's milk and tenses.

22:53

Business. Because. I don't wear

22:55

these are shredding kinda delicious job as

22:57

good as one of delicious of the

22:59

good thing as i hops pancakes are

23:01

very he said. To Fertility is mostly on

23:03

the site. Your let me let me adjust. Oh. Boy

23:06

I see the jewelry or I don't think it's

23:08

a very kinky so at lens well to being

23:10

stalked. Yes, it is. It is proper

23:12

silk edge. Would I appreciate images? They

23:14

were just a little bit warmer. All

23:16

thrive market share of on said it.

23:20

Is it's just. Ridiculous.

23:23

I literally maggie this twenty

23:25

minutes ago right before we

23:27

started the podcast. Why are

23:29

we so similar? The.

23:31

My own budget as cities. Are better than like Why do

23:33

you think not named is that him? Talking

23:35

like imaginary. Afford you those shop

23:37

but. I did. It's how many

23:39

cdc you make for your teacher

23:41

so they pass pass. Off as

23:43

certainly did know that are not just Sigma

23:46

stuff and run. By

23:48

it looks as a Denny's. What does is

23:51

salted caramel. It's. The. Salted Caramel Banana

23:53

Pancakes. Not just the way teachers like hey,

23:55

I'm not gonna go to class My life would be

23:57

better served if I learned a throw this ball farther

23:59

and. were like, but you need to learn chemistry. And I was

24:01

like, do I miss games? Like, do you

24:03

really think I do? And she was like, no,

24:05

salted caramel, banana pancakes from

24:08

the Denny's. What is this cream on

24:10

top? I think it's a salted caramel cream.

24:12

There's a heavy layer of cream. It just

24:14

tastes like a creme patissier to

24:17

Denny's. You get in that creme pat. Um,

24:20

this looks more appealing to me. The

24:22

IHOP pancakes dried out my mouth a

24:24

little bit in a strange way

24:26

because they do have that like very biscuity appeal

24:28

to it. With a sip of coffee though, it

24:30

was great. Yeah, I agree. Let me,

24:32

let me tell you, I do like, I do

24:35

like it, but I don't

24:37

love it. I like it, but I don't love

24:39

it. You know what the problem is? Tell me.

24:42

I believe Denny's has a better pancake recipe. I

24:45

agree with you. You know what IHOP has? Better

24:47

international pancakes. A freaking death wish. They

24:50

have no fear. Nicole, this is a fearless

24:53

stack of pancakes, right? Denny's is like, Oh,

24:55

take a normal pancakes and put some bananas

24:57

on there. That goes on pancakes. We'll put

24:59

like a little creamy cream on it that

25:02

almost tastes like salted caramel. And IHOP is

25:04

like, we're going to soak every single pancake

25:06

in the sugar milk and then we're going

25:08

to put caramel between all of them. Nicole,

25:10

this has turned into one mass. And

25:12

I'm into it. Same. This is now a

25:14

loaf. If you refrigerated this, you could compress it

25:17

like a muffalada and then just slice it. Right.

25:20

Really good. This is an utter

25:22

fearlessness that to me, IHOP

25:24

has had for their entire existence

25:26

that Denny's will always be trying

25:28

to bite at their heels. Yeah.

25:31

Right. Better pancakes be damned. IHOP

25:33

is out there just cooking.

25:35

They're more innovative. Yeah. Yeah.

25:37

It's this childlike wonderment of putting

25:40

whatever the heck you can on

25:42

a pancake and making

25:44

it good. I like that about

25:46

IHOP. I mean, again, Denny's really

25:48

good stack of buttermilk, really

25:51

impressive stack of buttermilk. I would love

25:53

to give the IHOP corporation

25:55

Denny's pancake recipe. That's what we should

25:57

do. You know what They should do? They should just

25:59

mer- It's a little go to invalid and hurts.

26:01

A little bit of attack was a acquisition.

26:04

We don't need any one Food companies demurred sign.

26:06

On him but I wanted emanate of

26:08

I Hop and Danny's call it. I

26:11

dubs. I'd pop pop pop.

26:15

Ah, Noise and eligible videos. Surface

26:19

worse site him what know I was

26:21

going to have essentially fight in items

26:23

creed or class but then I hurt

26:25

my back is actually real Barnsley I

26:27

do want to get in the boxing

26:29

it's really fun Doctor Michael Ourselves game

26:31

show He fought i dubs and he

26:33

beat the pulled out of i'm really

26:35

is actually really of i thought I

26:37

make is so what I said Mike

26:39

Mike now that he's not what a

26:41

handsome strong. Exercise actually one of

26:43

the best feebler talk to a not even

26:45

been not and jealous I feel nothing but

26:47

comparision to we're not jealous of know truly

26:49

I'm just like I'm glad beating global you

26:51

know jealousy not really I'm attend to be

26:53

jealous vigils for more which compares of Roka

26:56

thirds of me and Persians the opposite of

26:58

jealousy it's like you their eggs side My

27:00

early days are like admire the differences my

27:02

really do I become much more comfortable. With.

27:04

Myself I'm ago Paris Hilton so much

27:06

we need the Ocean's Eleven heists, the

27:08

Denny's pancake recipe to then give that

27:10

to the chefs over at I have

27:12

says we need to assemble a real

27:14

do it is it'll thought willing to

27:16

die about the yeah we got aqua

27:18

Sina. Yoshi, the street hustler

27:20

in Brooklyn. You. Know don't ask

27:22

your accent from and other town cards and the

27:25

uber to her. You. Know she's

27:27

landry is Rica Monte. They referred her to Seize

27:29

The you know, whatever that we gotta get out.

27:31

Who else is in Oceans? A. I don't

27:33

room I haven't seen and I only. General are certain

27:35

of it. And sell Ocean's Eleven. Or.

27:38

Your support of of women. May

27:41

not have. A Get Sarah

27:43

Paulson and App will have another prominent women in.

27:45

This isn't the point is this the women's at

27:47

The Builders. They're all all women's

27:49

redux of oceans alive or use

27:52

a real yeah you missed it

27:54

as he misses cultural moments. When

27:57

was this? Twenty. My

27:59

problem with this. Wasn't that incredible what

28:01

a star-studded cat. I had y'all know it

28:03

was a very star-studded cat And it was pride. I

28:05

saw this movie. I just want to redo it I

28:07

tell you I couldn't tell you about anything other than

28:09

oceans 11 I watch oceans all the oceans 13 don't

28:11

remember any of it This is where she goes and

28:13

returns the stuff and then she's like never mind, but she

28:16

steals it I Probably

28:18

beginning she takes all of it Sandra Bullock

28:20

also known as Debbie ocean takes all of the stuff and

28:22

she goes can I get A bag for it can I

28:24

get a return in this and she's like oh Do you

28:26

have a receipt and she's like no I don't have a

28:28

receipt and it's like oh, let me just call it She's

28:30

like never mind to put it back for me I'll take

28:32

it and she like stole like so

28:34

much makeup women do be shopping am I right

28:36

Nicole? That's the message of that movie my problem with

28:38

this is not and I know I'm a white guy

28:41

with a podcast mic right now So I need to

28:43

trade carefully, but my problem wasn't that what's your all

28:45

women my problem was Scott

28:47

Khan wasn't in it and Scott Khan who's

28:49

Scott who's Scott Khan? He

28:52

played he played tweeter in varsity

28:54

blues, and then he was one of

28:56

the oceans 11 no C double a

28:59

n Maggie Scott Khan like

29:01

it's got gone and all I needed was a little

29:03

Scott Khan. It's but I needed hon Needed

29:07

a skosh of Scott Khan and oceans eight and then

29:09

I would have been in It's he

29:11

and all of the other oceans. I

29:13

don't know most stuff was in the Italian job not

29:16

I've never seen the Italian Is that that

29:18

was Charlie's turn on Charlie's turn

29:20

as I was Charlize Karen. Yes

29:22

in Mack Wahlberg and anyway Edward

29:26

Norton or Giovanni would be confused. Can I

29:29

tell you my favorite actor of all time

29:31

is probably Edward Norton? Is it really

29:33

really? Oh my god, I love to direct

29:35

history egg The one with Richard Gere

29:37

where he pays place someone who's like

29:39

unstable. Oh my god, what a

29:41

film what a film? I

29:43

just love him who wins Oh, okay

29:46

who wins if we're talking

29:48

pancake for pancake. No, no, no, I know what

29:50

you're gonna say. Shut up. What I don't like your

29:52

answer Yes, ma'am I

29:55

don't like your answer. I know what you're brewing. I get

29:57

away. Okay. Let me tell you Denny's you

29:59

do a good job. You're beautiful. I'm into it.

30:01

I love it. I'm gonna come get Grand Slam

30:03

there. It's fine. But

30:07

when it comes to an experience,

30:11

I think IHOP takes it because of the A-frame.

30:13

I love the A-frame. Almost none of them

30:15

have the A-frame anymore. I love the vibe. I

30:18

think I love walking into an

30:20

IHOP and you know someone gets

30:22

country fried steak. I'm the someone.

30:24

And someone gets hash browns and

30:26

someone gets pancakes and someone gets

30:28

Rudy too. I just think it's

30:30

more of an American

30:34

icon than Denny's is. Although I love Denny's

30:36

and I appreciate Denny's and what they've done.

30:38

And then one time there was a punk

30:40

band that was like, what the blank

30:42

is up, Denny's? Those are iconic.

30:44

They're a hardcore. They're HXC's of

30:46

the freaking max, baby. Iconic. Denny's

30:49

has this iconicism too, but I think

30:51

IHOP is just America on a plate,

30:54

even though they're international. I actually listened

30:56

to that entire band, like a metalcore

30:58

band discography. The Denny's people? The Denny's,

31:00

yeah. What's up? What's up? What the?

31:02

Is up, Denny's? And then they have

31:04

a mosh pit in the. This is

31:06

how they mosh. I

31:09

agree with you. If you were

31:11

talking technical proficiency versus balls

31:14

to the wall innovation, I'm taking innovation every

31:16

time. Me too. If you look at the

31:18

rest of their food cannon, one Denny's just

31:20

debuted a new chicken fried steak recipe that

31:22

I have yet to try, but boy, am

31:24

I excited for it. I'm sorry. No, it's

31:26

okay. But if you

31:28

look at their other Canada food, right,

31:30

they're probably serving very similar things. You

31:32

get the chicken strips, you get zucchini

31:34

sticks, you get onion rings, and they're

31:36

all probably pretty equal. IHOP has made some

31:39

strides in the burgers game. They once they

31:41

call it IHOP. They don't know if it's the burgers.

31:43

IHOP was fun. It was fun. Their brunch burger was

31:45

really great. Yeah, I take

31:47

IHOP any single day, but I

31:50

do think that the money and time and

31:52

effort that Denny's put into the new pancakes

31:55

is very worth it. Just still

31:57

coming up short. You did your part. And

32:00

I'm excited for you, Denny's. And while Nicole's

32:02

gonna get grand slammed and Denny's, I'm gonna

32:04

get a little Rudy Fruity, Fresh and Tootie

32:06

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32:46

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32:48

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32:50

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32:52

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34:25

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34:30

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34:32

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I'm in. All

34:36

right, Nicole. We've

34:42

heard what you and I have to say about getting

34:44

gross in pancake restaurants bathrooms. Now it's time to find

34:46

out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in

34:48

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34:50

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34:52

like casseroles. Before

34:59

we get to your opinions, it's everybody's favorite part

35:01

of the show. That's right. It's another

35:03

edition of Review, Review, Review. I was going to say it.

35:05

I know. I'm so glad I cut you off. I was

35:07

going to say it all funny. Anyway, this

35:09

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35:12

F five stars to

35:14

review or to be reviewed.

35:19

I feel smarter when listening to this because both of

35:21

you is am now a chef and

35:23

apparently I can add critic to my list of

35:25

accomplishments. Five stars to me

35:27

as well. Um, ironically, no, three

35:30

stars. Oh, I give this five

35:32

stars. I love, I value

35:34

confidence so much.

35:36

I love it when someone comes in and they're like, I'm

35:39

a five star girl. I'm a five star guy. It's

35:41

like, yeah, you are. No, I actually agree with

35:43

that. I'm like very, very attractive. It's important. It's

35:45

not an attraction. It's not. I mean, like

35:47

play tonically attract like a people can't be

35:49

platonically attracted to people. Of

35:52

course you can. That's the reason why I say

35:54

that. I say, yeah, I'm like, well, I like I gravitate towards certain

35:56

people. Platonically attract

35:58

is a weird sentence. just say

36:00

friendly. I don't think so. I didn't say like

36:02

I said like the yeah attraction

36:05

implies romantic you can have

36:08

platonic attraction. I've never seen

36:10

it. People have like an animal magnetism to them now

36:12

it's getting creepy. I give

36:17

them five. So

36:20

I think one thing that used to be

36:22

a big old craze was the pickles on

36:24

a peanut butter sandwich right. I don't understand

36:26

why that ever went out of

36:29

fashion if you will. I love me

36:31

some pickles on a nice creamy smooth

36:33

peanut butter sandwich. Anyways

36:35

big fan of the show. Love y'all. Sir

36:38

your accent is the

36:40

creamy peanut butter to my ears and

36:43

your opinion is the little bite of

36:45

pickles on that. Oh my god. I

36:47

will say they do sound a fair

36:49

bit like Zach Galifianakis from my campaign.

36:52

I was gonna say sounds like Bruce from Family

36:54

Guy. I love I love your

36:57

voice. You have a Malefuis tone

36:59

of voice and I really appreciate

37:01

it. Stop with the SAT word.

37:03

Malefluis. I'm gonna get up and

37:06

leave. I was deciding between Malefluis

37:08

and dulcet. I would have loved

37:10

dulcet. You should have said dulcet.

37:13

Malefluis. Sweet or

37:15

musical. Pleasant here. Now look up dulcet. No it's down

37:17

there. It's a similar. It's similar. No no but look

37:19

up dulcet. So this is look

37:21

up dulcet cuz I want to see how similar they are cuz I'm getting

37:23

I'm pretty good at just picking sweet

37:25

and soothing yeah. Dulcet tones.

37:28

God I'm good. I'm like a

37:31

natural what's the thing called it's like a dictionary

37:33

but for Cinnabon. Antelope.

37:36

Peanut butter and pickles.

37:38

I'd eat it. It's

37:40

something I've almost never.

37:43

Man in

37:45

my old age I've been getting much more into

37:47

bread and butter pickles. I love I eat a

37:49

lot of pickles. I eat a lot of

37:51

I just love fermenty foods. I always have.

37:53

I love pickled stuff. A bread and

37:55

butter pickle is even fermented. I don't know. I mean if they're

37:57

vinegar. Yeah they probably.

38:00

I'm sure they are. I don't know. I feel

38:02

like that much lactobacillus on the outside of the cucumber. I

38:04

like pickled things. Let

38:06

me just redact what I said. I

38:08

like things that are vinegary. And

38:11

bread and butter pickles is the dessert version

38:14

of vinegary foods. Yeah, a lot of people say

38:16

they don't like bread and butter pickles, but I say reframe

38:18

them in your mind as candied cukes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

38:21

then you really enjoy them. My preferred peanut butter

38:23

sandwich that's on the fringe is peanut butter, bananas,

38:26

and mayonnaise. That's a great

38:28

sandwich. I don't think I've

38:30

ever had that and I don't ever will. But

38:33

peanut butter and pickles, that is a good sandwich. You've

38:35

inspired me. I want red onions and sriracha

38:37

on that. Yeah, I did a great way

38:39

to jazz it up. Yeah, fun. Soak

38:41

the red onions and ice water first. Hi,

38:44

Josh and Nicole. Love the podcast.

38:46

Why? I am calling to

38:49

defend honey on

38:51

pizza and especially honey on pizza crust

38:53

like they do in Colorado on those

38:55

Colorado mountain pies. I'm

38:57

fine if other people don't like this, but

38:59

I am sick of being hated on for

39:01

dipping my crust in honey. Thank

39:04

you. Can I have one? Thank you

39:06

for listening. I love you. Thank you.

39:09

Is this person doing that thing that people do on Twitter where

39:11

they sort of like make up a victimhood?

39:13

They're like, everybody hates me for this opinion and

39:15

I'm the only one I say. I don't know.

39:18

I have a challenge. How much hate are

39:20

you really getting? Is the hate inside your own head for dipping

39:22

your pizza crust in honey? You

39:25

made that pizza. The mountain hike. It

39:27

is from a spot called Bojo's

39:30

where Bojo's tried to effectively force

39:33

a pizza genre into America called Colorado mountain pizza.

39:35

It was good when you made it. They're very

39:37

thick. They had a whole wheat crust that is

39:39

braided. There's honey in the dough and then they

39:41

serve warm honey on the side

39:43

to dip your crust in. It's

39:46

a fantastic style of pizza. Very different. I

39:48

mean, it's similar, but also different enough to

39:50

where it's very cool. It

39:52

doesn't really catch on as like a,

39:55

you know, nobody in LA is opening up the

39:57

Colorado mountain style pizza restaurant. I mean, they can.

39:59

So we pause for like three months and then it'll just

40:02

plummet. Sure. But yeah,

40:04

I agree. The crust, to me, is

40:07

a completely separate food from the pizza. It

40:10

needs to be treated like it. Okay.

40:14

I think you need to eat pizza crust. People

40:16

that leave pizza crust on the side, I think

40:18

they need to go to jail. No, it's

40:21

a handle. It's a breadstick handle and it's perfectly

40:23

edible and good. It's just less good than the

40:25

pizza. I know, but it's a completion.

40:27

It's like doing things to completion. I

40:30

don't like it. I think it's like people that

40:32

put napkins on their pizza. I hate it. To

40:34

absorb the oil. Just pizza is

40:37

good. No, do you eat the corn husk too?

40:40

It's not edible. The corn husk isn't edible,

40:42

Josh. A lot of things are more edible than you think if you just

40:44

really put your mind to it. Get out of here. What

40:47

I'm trying to say is I like

40:49

honey. I like hot honey and honey on

40:51

pizza sometimes if there's a pork product to

40:53

go along with it. It's

40:56

a more formative mushroom situation and put honey

40:58

on it. That's not happening. But if it's

41:00

like pepperoni, those little pepperoni cups with some

41:02

hot honey, yum, of course.

41:04

I pretty actively dislike that. That was a trend for

41:07

a minute. She's talking about two different things. One is

41:09

dipping the crust in honey, which I fully agree with.

41:11

To me, that's a great dessert. I

41:14

tend to not love ultra sweet desserts. Do

41:16

you think restaurants should have a cup of

41:18

honey for every single pizza they sell? Yeah,

41:20

they do at Bojos in Colorado. Why not? Other

41:23

than Bojos. Why other than Bojos? Papa

41:26

John's served garlic sauce and now everyone's

41:28

got the garlic sauce. Can I tell you

41:30

what it is? What? It's because the

41:32

bread is so soft and braided that it lends

41:34

itself to being a dessert almost like a

41:37

donut or like another baked good. I

41:39

would dip a Neapolitan crust. But Neapolitan crust you need

41:41

to sort of incorporate into the eating of the pizza

41:44

or it's too wet. But I really

41:46

don't. I'm pretty actively against,

41:48

not in theory, just in terms of

41:50

going into my body, the

41:52

honey on the pizza. I get it with

41:54

the spicy pepperoni. Yeah, the

41:56

Roberta's from Brooklyn who opened up in LA and

41:58

they're very, very good. good what a good

42:01

pizza but I just the honey I'm it's

42:03

not my favorite I would never do it myself I'm telling

42:05

you the pork if there's like speck or prosciutto on

42:08

the pizza a little bit of honey it's like oh

42:10

my god it's like a charcuterie board it's fun it's

42:12

fun it's a new way to enjoy pizza I might

42:14

need the honey without the tomato

42:16

fine I think the tomato and sweet makes

42:18

me taste vomit okay tastes like

42:21

I ate a big bowl of spaghetti and

42:23

then a yogurt land and then vomit that's

42:25

what it reminds me and I've done that a lot I've done

42:27

that a lot the old spaghetti yogurt land vomit yeah yeah yeah

42:29

I've been there looks

42:32

like worms hey Nicole hey Josh smells like

42:34

pistachio this is Vince de Bona just wanted

42:36

to say more of a rant in an

42:38

opinion go ahead have you seen where the

42:41

chef boy already pizza kits have taken the

42:43

cheese out of the kit you

42:45

had now have to supply your own cheese the

42:49

best part of those kits

42:51

was the stinky cheese am

42:54

I right am I wrong I'm nothing

42:57

listen to your answer I

43:01

owe this person such a big apology

43:03

because I have never had the

43:06

chef boy or do this pizza

43:08

maker pizza kit neither and I feel

43:10

so ashamed because this is something that

43:13

I should have done oh my

43:15

god they are absolutely correct it now

43:17

it just comes with two this

43:20

what a bad product it comes with two crust

43:22

mixes that is just a bag of flour that

43:24

you presumably mix with water create

43:27

what is I'm sure not a very good pizza

43:29

crust and then you roll it

43:31

out and then they simply have

43:33

a can of pizza sauce it's for kids

43:36

it's like an easy bake oven it's fun have

43:39

some fun you sure yeah

43:42

but I'm looking at the cheese easy

43:44

family fun it literally says easy family

43:47

fun I know go to a zoo go to a

43:50

zoo for some easy family no John

43:52

get the bowl the pizza crust okay

43:54

but no it teaches it teaches kids

43:57

to mix and to be patient probably and

43:59

wait I

44:01

like it. What kind of cheese used to

44:03

be in this though? He said sticky cheese. He said sticky

44:05

cheese. Was this

44:07

in the refrigerated section? Okay, they say grated parmesan

44:09

and Romano cheese topping. Okay, my question is Do

44:11

you think this was in the refrigerated section? No. It's a

44:14

can of sauce. Why would it be? Yeah,

44:17

so it was a grated parmesan and Romano

44:19

cheese topping. God, if they if this is

44:21

shrinkflation It's like how Gatorade went from 32

44:23

ounces to 28 ounces, but the bottle

44:25

got cooler and so I didn't mind God,

44:28

your priorities are straight. But that's

44:30

you know, that's a reduction of

44:33

What 12 for 12 and a half percent? You

44:35

know 32 28 good math. Thanks, Josh Right,

44:40

but math portions my worst But if they

44:42

just took the grated parmesan Romano cheese topping

44:44

out and kept this the same price, which

44:46

I imagine they did That's

44:49

a big win for chef Boyardee. It's on

44:51

sale I'm up Buy

44:54

up the world supply. I don't want to I don't

44:56

have kids to do this with I might need

44:58

to nephew But they don't care about these days.

45:00

It's a big kid That's

45:02

super and fancy lies. Oh Look

45:05

at you with the big words. Sorry David.

45:07

I apologize, but I do you do have

45:10

a you Have

45:12

a youthful joie de vivre that I really do appreciate

45:14

and I think you really know Out your

45:16

blanks you are not a child. You're gonna be

45:18

a lawyer. I'm gonna need you to bail me

45:20

out of jail one day You

45:28

know what they call young young attorneys ambulance

45:33

chasers I Don't

45:35

think that's a young attorney thing. I think it's like someone

45:37

who's like trying to like get their name out I

45:40

think it's a strictly a personal

45:42

injury. Oh, yeah, they literally drive.

45:44

Yeah Yeah, yeah

45:48

Alright next video Hello

45:51

Josh and Nicole love the podcast I Personally

45:55

believe that macarons are

45:57

just overrated I

46:01

don't want to offend the français

46:03

but they're just the shells of

46:05

nothing. Saccharin just over-hyped

46:07

and overrated. They deserve to be

46:10

buried deep in a dungeon away

46:12

from humanity, never to be seen again.

46:15

That's it. Thank you for listening. Where

46:17

do you think they're from? Because they were

46:20

real fluid with... I think they're French-Canadian. Oh,

46:22

could've been. Or

46:25

they're just from America and

46:28

they just studied French. But I definitely caught an accent.

46:30

I was wondering if they were maybe a Spaniard who

46:32

happens to dabble in

46:34

a bit of Francophilia, if you will.

46:37

That's where you go into a Denny's bathroom after you're ordering. Anyways,

46:41

macarons, I think by definition they're overrated

46:44

because they went through such a big

46:47

moment. And anything that relies on

46:49

the color and the aesthetic and

46:51

being in a big pastry case.

46:53

Pretty. What's the spot downtown? L'etre.

46:56

Bottega Louis. Bottega Louis. They got the big

46:58

pastry case. I used to walk by there.

47:01

There's people pissing on the road, smoking cigarettes

47:03

outside. But there's Bottega Louis shining with their

47:05

multicolor. Do you remember it? It was so iconic.

47:07

Is it not there anymore? No. It's

47:10

just, when do you ever go? Oh, yeah. I

47:12

used to live closer downtown, so I used to

47:14

skateboard to my yoga studio. God, I'm too LA.

47:17

But they do taste very good.

47:19

I do love them. I love macaron. It's

47:22

the texture of macaron, which is not to be

47:24

confused with macaroon. Very Passover

47:26

friendly. One time, Maggie brought

47:29

macaroons to the office, and I laughed at her. Do

47:31

you remember that? That's for Passover.

47:33

It's nobody's act. Nobody literally

47:35

was walking and holding it like a

47:37

purse. And I'm like, did you bring those

47:39

for Passover? She's like, yeah. I'm like, OK,

47:41

give me a listen. If anybody

47:43

wants a quick etymology lesson, the

47:45

reason macaron in French became macaroon

47:47

in English is the same reason

47:50

that the word balon became balloon.

47:52

It was a way to differentiate

47:54

American English from French,

47:57

I suppose. So we sort of added o's.

48:00

The reason in France a macaroon is made with

48:02

whipped egg whites sugar and almond paste right

48:04

or almond flour Mm-hmm, and

48:06

that's how it gets that signature texture That's almost

48:08

kind of wet and crispy and crunchy and I

48:11

I'm a sucker for texture and big goods That's

48:13

great an American macaroon, which

48:15

is big in the Jewish American community

48:17

because they sell manashevits kosher macaroons So

48:19

they're just dense in sugary and instead

48:21

of almonds. It's using coconut meat. Yes

48:24

And I believe Martha Washington was

48:27

maybe the first person to publish

48:29

a recipe America with coconut

48:31

macaroons. Well, which is very interesting. I think

48:33

it was Martha Washington could have been somebody

48:36

else. Well, it makes sense Yeah,

48:38

like coconut. You know, we've just been to

48:40

Hawaii, you know America all that stuff I

48:42

think we didn't annex Hawaii till like 18

48:45

1518 40s. Yeah, but but the point

48:48

remains we're still there. So tropical fruits are coming into

48:50

America. I I prefer

48:52

American macaroons because I grew up on them

48:54

and I love the density and the coconut

48:56

enos and I love it I would love

48:59

to create a macaron macaron or a

49:01

macaron macaron Macaron

49:04

I would like to combine the two somehow. I don't

49:06

know if I can't coconut flavored macaron

49:11

Okay, well that's been pretty easy for you or like

49:13

put a bunch of almonds in a macaron that wouldn't be nearly

49:15

as good I get why you I get

49:17

why you would call them over it. I'm curious. I don't

49:19

think they're overrated I think they're fine. I think

49:21

they had their moment, but now it's kind of

49:23

like evened out Yeah, an Earl Grey macaron is

49:25

delicious macaron is delicious What

49:28

do you think why and I would be curious? Monsieur

49:30

if you were called back and Tell

49:33

us what your favorite French pastry is and what you think

49:35

not even French base your favorite page We let you think

49:37

be you like And

49:41

tell so you think it is what do you what's your favorite French pastry?

49:45

Um, I don't know I Actually

49:49

do love a Perry Perry breast. It's a laminated pastry.

49:51

It's filled with like a chestnut cream, right? Yeah,

49:54

let me let me look at me actually

49:56

look up French pastries. Oh my god. I know

49:58

my answer. What I know my it's a cat canelé.

50:00

Oh canelé are?

50:03

Canelé. I used to make, you

50:06

know what I used to do? I used

50:08

to make handmade canelés and right before they

50:10

would come out of the oven I would

50:12

shove a dulce de leche truffle inside and

50:14

then it was the most delicious thing in

50:17

the world. You would serve the canelé and

50:19

then you slice it in half and it

50:21

had this ooey gooey chocolatey dulce de leche

50:23

filling in it which it was

50:25

it was really good. Oh Eclair's

50:28

also a great choux pastry is fantastic. I can't

50:30

wait for people that don't know it's like a

50:32

it's a super wet eggy batter

50:34

that you cook very hot. Very high temp.

50:36

You have to cook it in what's

50:38

supposed to be cooked in like a special copper

50:40

mold. Yeah. And they say that it's not copper

50:42

but it's just like dense and eggy and caramelized

50:45

sugary and but also kind of wet. I absolutely

50:48

love it. But Eclair's I absolutely love

50:50

there's something called a religes that

50:53

is like two cream puffs stacked on top of

50:55

each other. But I love choux

50:57

dough filled with creme patissie. Yeah. But I

50:59

understand why macarons got you know their day

51:01

in the sun. I love I

51:03

love napoleons. No I hate I

51:06

hate a Napoleon. My dad. It was my

51:08

dad's birthday recently and you know what I got

51:10

him? I got him a

51:12

Napoleon is a mille-fouille. Mille-fouille. Mille-fouille.

51:14

Means uh 1000 leaves. Yeah it's just

51:19

like a puff pastry with uh creme

51:21

patisserie in the middle. And I hate that

51:23

little almond topping that they do the white

51:26

and black almond topping. Ugly. I like just

51:28

like pastry and cream pastry

51:30

and cream. Not like whipped cream but

51:33

creme pat. I think we

51:35

may have to do with an episode our French pastry

51:37

is overrated. Okay fine we can't. They're not even French.

51:39

They're Austrian. But also

51:41

it was all different. But it was my dad's

51:43

birthday and I got him two custard

51:45

ponchiques, two cream puffs and two napoleons,

51:48

one with cream, one with custard. God.

51:50

Ooh. I want to go. It's

51:52

so funny how much our parents influence our

51:55

taste. I was gonna say I need to get

51:57

a pastry right now but we got some leftover Denny's pancakes.

51:59

Whoo! Same diff. Ham

52:01

on him. Well that's about all our time. Thank

52:04

you so much for stopping by the podcast we

52:06

got more podcasts coming up if you like that

52:08

kind of thing. We're here on YouTube if you're

52:10

watching it on YouTube. Yeah.

52:13

That's okay. Yeah call

52:16

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52:18

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52:20

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52:23

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52:25

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52:27

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52:29

the guy outside a bar on Saturday. You

52:32

did? You did the jersey? We did the jersey

52:34

slot. It was completely organic. What kind of shirt were

52:36

you wearing? I was wearing so you know my like

52:38

it's like a orange and black striped polo. Yes. Then

52:40

I accidentally have two of because I was supposed to

52:43

wear that for the photo shoot for the book and

52:45

then I lost it and then I went back to

52:47

Express and rebought it and didn't tell anybody but

52:50

then I found it Julia put it behind the cat

52:52

carrier in my closet so I didn't see

52:54

it. So anyways I have two of these shirts and I'm outside

52:56

this bar you know we closed it out. It was a lot

52:58

of Skarga actually and it was great. I loved all of these.

53:00

So fun. And this guy goes hey man cool shirt. And

53:03

I go yeah thanks and he goes hey I'll trade you my

53:05

jacket for it and he was real drunk and

53:07

I was like dude like for real I have two of

53:09

these shirts I will gladly trade you for that cool jacket.

53:11

Did you take a picture with it? And then if somebody

53:13

took a picture and I don't know where it is so

53:15

if you were involved in the jersey swap outside a lot

53:17

of Skarga on Saturday whatever 119 or something

53:21

please try and find me and then his girlfriend was like

53:23

hey he's really drunk this is a nice jacket and then

53:25

I was like I don't even want anything in return I

53:27

just need a shirt that I can wear home and so

53:29

the guy took off his t-shirt and then another dude's like

53:31

hey do the jersey swap picture. What was the jacket? It

53:34

wasn't like nice nice I don't even think I would have worn it

53:36

like with no disrespect saying we just have different styles. What was

53:38

it like a jean jacket? Well

53:41

not jean but definitely some sort of fabric like kind

53:43

of cool like multi-colored a little bit jenzy look and

53:45

he turned he was younger than me. Did

53:47

it have like a cherry on the back? I don't

53:49

think so. Oh okay. Yeah. Are

53:52

you still here? Oh see you guys. See

53:54

ya. you