Mama, do you have big dreams and small children? Are you feeling like those two things can’t coexist? Sometimes we feel God calling us to do something—a ministry, a new job, a mission trip, whatever—but we think we need to wait for our kids to get bigger before we get started. If that sounds familiar, boy do I have a guest for you.

Tricia Goyer knows what it’s like to raise a family alongside a flourishing career and ministry. In this interview she gives us practical tips on how she makes it happen, but she also alleviates the mom guilt. One of my favorite points she makes is that we tell our kids to grow up and fulfill their dreams, but then we never do. Our kids need to see us following God now, not waiting until we’re empty nesters.