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84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

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84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

84: Stealth Strike, The Future of the Force, & Legacy (Rebels 24 - 26)

Wednesday, 17th April 2024
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0:09

Let us return once more to a more civilized

0:11

age, a Star Wars podcast. I'm Rob Zachary, joined

0:13

by Ali Akhenpura, Austin Walker, and Natalie Watson. We

0:15

are as always supported by you, our listeners via patreon.com/civilized.

0:18

So head over there if you'd like to support the

0:20

show and get access to all our Q&A episodes and

0:22

the rest of the Trove. This

0:24

week, we've got a trio of episodes. Wait. First

0:27

week, yes. We've got a trio

0:29

of episodes and a trailer

0:32

to watch. Go in live with a

0:34

screen share. We can do our summary

0:36

afterwards, but we are going to

0:38

watch the Tales of

0:40

the Empire trailer. You'll note

0:42

that I screen shared it. Why is that? It's

0:44

because the thumbnail has a spoiler in it. Yes,

0:47

spoiler for the two-minute, eight-second-long trailer for this new

0:49

animated show that seems to be a follow-up from

0:51

their last thing, which was Tales of the Jedi,

0:53

which we haven't watched yet because one of those

0:55

has like post-Clone War spoilers in it. This seems

0:57

like it doesn't have anything that spoils anything that

0:59

we haven't seen yet. So it's

1:01

okay for us to watch this trailer and maybe even watch the

1:03

show. We'll find out when it comes out. And it's so important

1:06

that we watch this trailer. None of you all have seen this

1:08

yet, right? No. I don't know

1:10

anything. No scares. I'm scared. I

1:12

will say the characters on screen right now, it's like Tales of

1:14

the Jedi. Remember Tales of the Jedi had like a

1:17

Dooku three-episode arc and then a Soka three-episode arc.

1:19

We've watched neither of those yet. Is that one

1:21

like Thrawn? It's

1:24

certainly a chis-male guy, right? A

1:27

chis-male, the worst account on Twitter

1:29

probably. That's

1:31

probably rude. There's probably someone who has that account

1:33

who's probably just like boring. Anyway, one

1:36

of those stories is about a character we've

1:39

met before, but the character on the left

1:41

here on the thumbnail with like the spear

1:43

is from the Ahsoka first Ahsoka episode of

1:45

Mandalorian. You might remember her. She

1:47

has like a spear. It's the lady, it's like the shitty lady

1:49

Ahsoka. The one she has to beat the shit out of to

1:52

ask the question where's Thrawn? Yeah, I think that

1:54

that's exactly right. I think she's in Ahsoka

1:56

also, but that's not why we're watching this trailer. Don't worry

1:58

about her. So there's going to be some stuff. The really

2:00

will fuck is that sniper using the Soca We

2:02

beg. Oh yes, he's important. Splendor says she's

2:04

not that important Watching this. as far as my

2:07

understanding of a situation, I'm

2:09

Nick Collison. Zip line. Or may.

2:12

Three two one go.

2:17

To use. Any

2:19

this has enough mana. Moving

2:22

ahead of and it's if I

2:24

miss our and darling of the

2:26

hurting. our read outs and three

2:28

two one go Sorry to. Be

2:32

safe. To.

2:35

The Some Ltd. Ago.

2:39

The way we don't know anything about

2:41

another with. Don't

2:44

freak out about this when. I

2:50

have. However,

2:53

it was really

2:55

pretty bystanders. Made

2:57

of snow. And. Ice.

3:03

Hockey and rice. Hockey

3:07

right? as. Fair

3:09

as fuck on the and clone. There

3:11

are no ports. A search for the

3:13

first thought is the same as we

3:16

know we don't have. Truly

3:20

cruisers madness. To

3:23

screening see. How

3:28

she was so sad. As

3:38

a Csv to do that said incremental or. So.

3:47

Rude. now

4:10

What is there it doesn't fall what if you

4:13

meet your new love No

4:16

fucking way yeah, yeah Oh

4:26

we've met I

4:34

He washed me 20 years ago I

4:41

Huh, I we

4:43

have to end the podcast. I don't know I

4:46

I don't feel good my My tummy

4:48

hurts I'm

4:55

It's wild how much I care about Barris Offee.

4:57

I hadn't you know what I mean. I give

4:59

so many shits about her I Care

5:02

about her so much We

5:04

got to read the Barris Offee books that don't

5:06

have anything to do with her being you

5:09

read them You read at least one of them. This

5:11

is the medical shit. Oh,

5:13

yeah Yeah, no, but we have to

5:16

read them with the knowledge of who she is in our heart

5:21

Anyway, I'm hyped for this this

5:23

is out in a month That

5:27

looked awesome one small thing. Yeah,

5:30

it's an uphill battle to make me care about Morgan

5:32

Elspeth. I Yeah,

5:34

I know I know I'm sorry about your

5:36

planet lady Doing

5:40

like a shitty reverse seven samurai was not

5:42

it I

5:45

can't remember. I can't remember was that

5:48

like the town That

5:51

was like all the there's so many up

5:53

buildings on the side That's every bill though.

5:55

It was the one that was color graded

5:57

to be yellow the whole time and head

6:00

big like wall wall city

6:03

yeah okay cutting to some

6:05

actor who was like a CEO I

6:12

mean I will say that I think her

6:14

background is relevant to us and

6:17

potentially can I

6:19

spoil small thing about about

6:22

the Ahsoka show yeah we'll care

6:24

about eventually I'll read the first

6:26

line of of her early life

6:33

section of the biography on the Wikipedia

6:35

for Morgan and Elspeth Morgan

6:37

Elspeth was a human member of

6:39

the Night Sisters a coven of

6:41

witches need okay okay okay

6:44

because I saw that I saw that

6:46

in the beginning of the trailer I

6:48

saw I knew I knew they were

6:50

my sisters so definitely different they

6:53

had like this is like a

6:55

post no I was going to say something because nobody

6:57

else said anything about it and I thought you're

6:59

right that is the beginning of this trailer is

7:02

let's get caught on the notice please revisit

7:05

can you get me a I'm

7:07

gonna bring it back up for you right now

7:09

I'm gonna make sure we're all seeing it live

7:11

here yeah you were right I'm gonna give it

7:13

a second to catch up because screen share sucks

7:15

sometimes you took seven minutes there it

7:17

is all right yeah there there they are there's the

7:20

droids you know and and we see her fight Grievous

7:22

eventually right in the trailer so maybe this is a

7:24

revenge arc for killing all the Night

7:26

Sisters you know what that's her yeah

7:29

there she is you

7:31

spotted it I spotted it and I and

7:34

and I need

7:36

to speak I need to speak when

7:38

I when I see because I felt

7:40

that I was like no way are

7:43

the night sisters finally who being

7:46

revisited getting their due but

7:48

she's going evil mode she's

7:51

going evil mode which is a

7:53

real change for a night sister yeah uh-huh

7:56

anyway where

7:58

is she being held Barris Yeah,

8:00

I don't know. Well, probably

8:03

that prison, right? Probably the

8:06

Tarkin prison that Ahsoka was held in. Is he

8:08

training these people up on Mustafar? I don't know.

8:10

That final duel had like Wobbapit and the Center

8:12

vibes. Yeah,

8:15

we did have those vibes. Yeah,

8:19

could be. I don't know. It's a

8:21

ring of fire, but I don't know.

8:23

This kind of feels... It's kind

8:25

of giving Mustafar. You

8:28

know, that's just Sith, right? Would he do it

8:30

at his house, though? I don't think he'd like that. Well,

8:32

yeah, I mean, the way

8:34

they drop to their knees. I know. I

8:37

dream of having a studio and like a garage.

8:39

So I guess if I'm Vader, maybe training

8:41

in Quizitor, it's like down the hallway. Down the

8:44

hallway, yeah. Because he's not leaving home for

8:46

that. That's a You Gotta Come To Me. That's

8:48

the one useful thing we learned from Obi-Wan. He doesn't leave

8:50

home for much. He loves home. God,

8:55

I forgot about that whole part of Obi-Wan where they go

8:58

to the prison thing.

9:00

I forgot about that. Wow.

9:04

Wild. Alright, we started with these

9:06

episodes. And hey, the words Mustafar

9:08

said... They are. And then

9:10

we get Seven Sisters stuff, which I don't

9:12

know if this Inquisitor here is that

9:15

character. I bet she might be. Maybe

9:17

she's a fourth sister. I know, but maybe she had a promotion

9:19

at some point. We don't know. Maybe she becomes

9:21

the fourth sister. Some of them have

9:23

the spinny thing, so it's hard to tell. It's hard to

9:25

tell. But no, this is... She's a different species. She

9:27

is like hair tendrils. That's different, I

9:29

think. Still. Are

9:32

we sure this isn't the seventh sister? I'm

9:34

pretty sure. That was our first impulse. That

9:36

was our first impulse. If it turned out

9:38

that she's the seventh sister and they did

9:40

no work with that in these episodes, I'll

9:43

be pissed in retrospect. That would be quite

9:45

annoying retcon. But

9:48

I do love the seven... Maybe she gets mind

9:50

wiped. I don't know. I love the sixth sister.

9:54

Anyway, Ron. Tell me

9:56

about these episodes. Yeah, so we'll take them

9:58

really quick. We

10:00

did do three episodes in

10:02

the end. We made a game time decision

10:04

to push our recording back today Yeah, but

10:06

because I was like there's no way they're

10:08

not gonna pick up this thread and this

10:10

time they did Yeah, sort of

10:13

it's still mostly a standalone It's not the episode

10:15

I thought the next episode would be but it

10:17

does follow on from the second the end of

10:19

the second one In a really clear way. Yeah,

10:22

I'm glad for that I don't

10:24

know we can revisit where we just want to move to a

10:26

straight three every time Cadence or or

10:29

not. I'm good with either Yeah,

10:32

we could do three three three two Cuz

10:35

the finite the finale of the season is a

10:37

two-parter. They have the same it's Twilight of the

10:39

apprentice one and two So, you

10:41

know, maybe we do three three three two and then

10:44

that's the end That way we have the room at

10:46

the end to talk about the whole season. So yeah,

10:48

cool All right But

10:50

let's say we'll see the episodes one at a time

10:52

Let's do it, especially this one because this is kind

10:54

of a standalone in the most standalone

10:57

of this group So

10:59

we continue exploring the tensions and mutual respect

11:02

animating Rex and Canaan's relationship in

11:04

stealth strike Let

11:07

me tell you if you're a fan of

11:09

spaceships and the old legends universe You're

11:11

dining well tonight because the

11:14

catalyzing events of this episode is

11:16

commander Sato and Ezra being captured

11:18

by a hyperspace blocking Interdictor

11:21

cruiser, uh-huh Embarrassingly

11:23

the second they like were yanked

11:25

out of hyperspace Like

11:28

I shot forward on the couch waved

11:31

MK to shut up as if she might

11:33

be about to speak and then

11:35

I was like it's an interjector Rob where's

11:37

that? Originally, do

11:39

you recall the original place? Remember

11:42

its first appearance being there to the Empire. Okay,

11:45

so then it's in TIE fighter It

11:47

is not it is in those

11:50

obviously but it's from the tabletop

11:52

game originally Apparently

11:54

it was a response to GMs

11:57

being like I need

11:59

to stop my Players from fucking hyper

12:01

jumping away every time that's certainly

12:03

the empire has some tool to

12:05

stop this from happening, right? And

12:09

in the West End games RPG that is

12:11

that is I believe where this first showed

12:13

up And there's a previous I

12:15

skipped over this but one of the previous episodes of

12:17

the season I want to say I want

12:20

to say it was the Ship

12:23

that stops them in blood sisters. Maybe oh,

12:25

no, it's not it's wings of the master

12:28

wings of the master Also

12:30

explicitly has the B

12:32

wing episode It

12:34

specifically has references to the West

12:36

End games RPG also Specifically

12:39

the idea that like there was an

12:41

important Mon Calamari Designer of

12:43

the B-wig and that it took place on

12:45

the planet Chantal it

12:47

literally the name of the expansion was

12:50

or the name of the the supplement

12:52

was strike force Santopole and that is

12:54

like the most deep-cut nerdy shit in

12:56

the world Dave your real one

12:59

I'm sorry. I ever down. Wow. So wow.

13:01

So here we are again We

13:04

should buy the old source books for

13:06

this and then like play a campaign

13:08

of West End games Star Wars We

13:11

should do this at some point. I would love to have the time

13:14

to do this with you, Rob Someday

13:18

we will Anyway,

13:22

so they are hauled aboard the interdictor cruiser

13:24

which how it works It's got like four

13:26

gravity wall projectors We'll get to

13:28

that actually will kind of learn as they disable

13:31

it So we'll talk about the sort of doctrine

13:33

around the interdictor and how it works But

13:35

anyway, they're all the board for interrogation by

13:38

its cover But not quite clever enough captain

13:40

and Rex and Canaan have to sneak aboard

13:42

the ship's amount of rescue Relying their respective

13:44

expertise to bluff their way in the heart

13:47

of the cruiser The rescue goes

13:49

well with some hijinks is a lot of

13:51

hijinks as always in rebels Ezra

13:53

and chopper succeed in sabotaging the cruiser, but

13:55

Rex is captured in the attempt, making a

13:57

heroic last stand. I Don't think he had.

14:00

But he does and Qaeda has a full

14:02

a one man hurry to get him back.

14:04

As gay fly away from a dying and

14:06

victor we know the to have formed a

14:08

strong bond. As the same to salute.

14:12

Yes, I'm sorry. I should

14:14

know. I should. Truly

14:20

truly truly when I'm alone. Remember

14:22

the oil he got? Am boys?

14:24

Yeah, this is the most like

14:26

Clone Plus July shit that we've

14:28

gotten so far. Since. Records

14:30

came back from out of a team, you know? yeah.

14:33

Yeah. I'm glad we're here to says I was

14:35

I was not with same. And another, it

14:37

was getting to the other side

14:39

that you can't stand the boys,

14:42

you know I. See the boy

14:44

though, he loses. He boys are

14:46

you out? yeah Plus have Silver

14:48

Lake every time you like like

14:50

Ziegler you threatened violence towards. that's

14:52

a Rexford no fucking reason is

14:55

like said I'd And also you're

14:57

a crew like yeah would. Have

14:59

killed as best as in front of

15:01

a or whenever. I

15:04

listened. Closer a

15:06

whole other than I ever knew that

15:08

ever get a thrill but it's hard

15:10

to separate that out like that. Looks like

15:13

the person who killed your master sword

15:15

like the eight guys have killed your

15:17

ass. I don't know how it went down

15:19

but I see how the other july

15:21

not gotten as they all ten people they

15:23

lost a leg is not good. You

15:25

know somewhere. I have

15:27

a lot to process. he gets. Their I knew

15:29

he'd give her. right? And glad

15:32

I found it out. Naval officer

15:34

you know, having a rough attentively

15:36

and is the kind of. The.

15:39

Highlight the fact that the tensions the

15:41

results here doesn't feel like they've really

15:43

compelling. We develop them because it is

15:46

kinda like. The. Tension is

15:48

Seasons is kinda weird did

15:50

at Ford Racks rather than

15:52

really getting to a place

15:54

of. Eat the feelings

15:57

if you heard right beyond just the

15:59

like, Theoretical. Are.

16:02

After how's the clones killed

16:04

his master versus I think

16:06

we're probably be a. More

16:09

authentic they would. they have him really get

16:11

into the fact that I'm not really sure

16:14

you have free will man I'm not sure.

16:16

I've never really have your it like you

16:18

have your back the of mine. We don't

16:20

get that we look at the real conversation

16:22

with the real stuff underpinning. more like that

16:24

holsters New York with was the one who

16:26

have trade them at in the last instance

16:28

and like he's not here to him to

16:31

take that Ceo and I mean I importantly

16:33

I would assume previous rebels recon. Was

16:36

and Gregor just stayed on that

16:38

planet. Followed

16:42

you buds Pablo. That suggests that they may

16:44

have repaired and taken over one of the

16:46

eighty eighty walkers as their new host. They

16:48

were bigger is super duper for your own

16:51

and slivers of that a farm in New

16:53

Hampshire. That's what he said he was like

16:55

they they feel they have these other a

16:58

tv but you know they may review the

17:00

bigger quarters because they are really going to

17:02

see them again. I've november the of buried

17:04

in the i mean they're not part of

17:07

the resistance I me what he says that

17:09

rebels retarded resin like wow think. About their

17:11

set their state of mine's they might not

17:13

have been cut out to work for the

17:15

Rebel isn't which. Is that such

17:17

a shame Imo? Because I would have liked

17:20

to have seen them more by do like

17:22

I said of them to join. Yeah. I

17:24

do think though, Rob that ah. That.

17:29

That can and does gestures kind

17:31

of towards some of those I'd

17:34

like. More interesting. Points.

17:37

Of conflict when he said at some

17:39

point he like. Ah

17:41

says to racks. Ah, Once

17:44

you get in there and forget which

17:46

side you're on which I feel like

17:48

is is a joke but is also.

17:51

Kind. of real and is is kind

17:54

of gesturing more towards the like a

17:56

how much of what you did it

17:58

and do now is free will?

18:01

And how much are you like

18:03

following some scripted

18:06

behavioral or like, I

18:09

don't know. Um, I wish

18:11

we would have had more I wish the conflict

18:13

between them would have been more centered on

18:16

that idea. It's

18:19

not because it's like, but I feel like

18:21

Rex already covered that because he said he took the

18:23

chip. And that's the problem. The problem is

18:25

it's a chip. And like, we I think we're

18:27

always on the right side of history. And we

18:29

said the chip kind of undercuts the

18:31

fun, one of the fun dimensions

18:33

of the clones doing this when they were ordered to

18:36

do it. Because if they did it because they were

18:38

ordered to do it, and almost all of them did

18:40

it, just because they were ordered to,

18:43

that is really compelling in

18:45

Canaan's case, right? Yeah. How

18:48

you know, and truly,

18:50

how do I know you didn't kill your master, and

18:52

you're just lying about it now, all the rest of

18:54

your boys did, right? But the fact

18:56

that you say, Oh, I was a it was a

18:58

chip to kill all the Jedi. So I didn't do

19:00

it. It's so

19:02

pat that it's kind of undercut some

19:04

of that tension. And especially the

19:07

thing that talks about it is he's not wrong

19:09

in a certain one certain way, which is

19:11

there's that conversation early in this episode, where

19:14

Harrah's like, well, he can import import, he

19:16

can impersonate a stormtrooper. And Canaan's like, that's

19:18

because he's a stormtrooper. And she's

19:20

like, he's a clone trooper. And he says same

19:22

thing. And, you know, for

19:24

Harrah, the clone troopers showed up and

19:27

saved her people on right

19:29

on. What's why I'm looking on the

19:31

name of the right on Ryloth. Thank

19:33

you. But

19:35

for but for Canaan, and not

19:37

just for Canaan for the

19:40

admiral who eventually interrogates Rex, hey,

19:43

you built this, all

19:45

this shit. That was you the the

19:47

admiral later tells Rex not

19:49

to jump ahead too much. But he says, like, we

19:52

know, I

19:54

serve the order that you put into place.

19:57

And Canaan sees that Canaan sees

19:59

them. As the sword by which

20:01

the empire was forged rights and there's a

20:03

direct connection. There wasn't all the color we've

20:06

talked with us or for all the phones

20:08

were not like one day. No more clones.

20:10

Many of the police trained the current generation

20:12

stormtroopers. Risk it's an offer to do that

20:14

in this episode. There is a continuity between

20:17

those two things and Fourteen and that's really

20:19

sorely phelps I was given a little more

20:21

time to breed since rest came on board

20:23

or just kind of which was like a

20:25

later episode in the season and that we

20:28

had one or two. I wish they. Had

20:30

gotten to a scrape. I wish they had gotten into a

20:32

fistfight that had been. Calm. Down or

20:34

like I wish I you know I would

20:36

love to have seen Rex hurl something at

20:38

Seen in about like not be on protect

20:41

his master about you know something like I

20:43

would have loved to have seen rec starting

20:45

to under team in Skyn more directly at

20:47

some points of their be on a little

20:49

bit more even footing with this but instead

20:52

and Forty Sandwiches does kind of weird about

20:54

it for eight episodes and now we're here.

20:57

And are hard mom to make them.

20:59

Makeup was yeah it's another like robot

21:01

era has to be the. Ah

21:04

yes the base hulu C O/mom

21:06

of the group because rec teams

21:09

plan is like well yeah to

21:11

go get Saddam and Ezra. Me

21:15

example: Do it. And to the human rights

21:17

are going to do it. As

21:19

partly the gear, their skills are complementary and

21:21

matter, but it's also clearly a. Us.

21:25

New York on road trip? Yeah,

21:27

Jago. Work it out. You need

21:29

a buddy comedy adventure? Yeah, except

21:31

I'm not. I'm happy

21:33

that it's just like we end this

21:35

episode is it's resolved in their friends.

21:38

That had a does feel like. Okay,

21:41

so we're just not gonna get that. Kind

21:44

of that Henson has gone like

21:46

that. I feel like they're yeah,

21:48

I just feel like that clone

21:50

vs. On. Jet.

21:52

I. was kind

21:54

of under utilized i would hurt if

21:56

to the of the vader supple bring

21:58

it back if we ever get if

22:00

they ever learned who Vader is, you know,

22:04

especially because you will to

22:06

the other part of this. Rex

22:08

just still hero worships the Jedi. He

22:10

doesn't have any like weird feelings about

22:13

how they were. They

22:15

were the meat shields for the Jedi. Like,

22:17

yes, he was a very privileged position of clones. And he is

22:19

a little a team of like top clone

22:21

buddies. They were doing like

22:23

the elite warriorship. But there is

22:25

no sense of we were cannon fodder. Like we

22:27

were literally like turned out. There's

22:30

none of that either, which is I think the other part of this,

22:32

which is we don't have a wreck

22:34

sort of chewing over a lot of the things that

22:36

the Clone Wars brought up where give clones a minute

22:38

to think about their lot in life, a lot

22:41

of shit comes out. And

22:44

with Rex. Do

22:46

you get shit? They pull that ship out,

22:48

too, because it's just they pulled out the

22:51

bar. You forgot all about him,

22:53

Bara. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

22:55

the interesting thing is also how willing he

22:57

is to flip into that role. Like

23:00

he does it again in this episode. And he did

23:02

it the last time where it's like, you

23:04

know, I'll stay behind and be the one who shoots while you

23:06

guys get out of here. And it's like, oh,

23:08

Rex, be part of the team.

23:11

And the great see the thing, you know,

23:13

going off our discussion of Hannibal last week

23:15

and sort of the and also like the

23:17

Michael Mann version of this character. You started that

23:19

show. Did you watch him? Oh, can

23:23

I tell you, I forgot to also

23:25

mention that fucking Jillian

23:27

Anderson is in that show. What? Yeah. I

23:29

saw that tweet. She can't be in that,

23:32

too. Austin. Yeah, she's great, too. She's great

23:34

in it. Well, it's like the rocketeer of to

23:38

the. But like an interesting

23:40

version of this would be.

23:44

Rex just loved doing this shit. He

23:46

loved being the wingman of like watching

23:48

a Jedi just like car through a

23:50

thousand people and like he's

23:52

just in it for that. And this is a

23:54

way for him to get back into his happy

23:56

place, which is being the

23:59

gunman along. a magic

24:01

space wizard, that would also be an interesting space.

24:05

That is the

24:07

Hannibal-verse, Red Dragon-verse version

24:09

of where Rex would be,

24:12

which is that the monster is

24:14

being awakened by the fact that now

24:16

he gets to serve a Jedi again.

24:18

And ultimately, that's what he's there for, not really

24:21

a cause. They're not going to do that either. Instead,

24:24

he's going to be like, I

24:26

reject all of this. You know

24:28

nothing of my work, Empire. Speaking

24:33

of, something I low-key love. So

24:35

we meet Admiral Bromtitis, the

24:37

guy who's commanding this sort

24:40

of Imperial speed trap, as it were.

24:43

Who looks like an extra right from A

24:45

New Hope. I hate him. It's a long

24:48

hair. I actually love

24:50

that they're having Imperial haircuts shifting

24:52

into the 70s fashion mode that

24:56

we associated with the 90s or

24:58

ending from the Clone Wars into

25:00

Rebels, and the Imperials

25:02

are all adopting 70s long quaffed

25:04

hair. It's

25:08

very funny to me. I mean, the hair is great,

25:10

but he always looks like he's pounding a

25:12

little bit. There's just something a little bit off

25:14

about his model that I was like, this

25:16

is uncomfortable for me. He's sad. He's always

25:19

a little sad. He looks

25:22

like Callus is a weird cousin. He

25:24

does look like Callus is a weird cousin. He's

25:27

like, Callus got him this job. You know

25:29

what I mean? They're like, Callus pulled some

25:31

strings. Callus' mom is

25:33

just off screen, just like Cyril Carnes is.

25:36

But she's like, can't you do anything

25:38

for your cousin, Brom? You can't do

25:41

nothing for your cousin, Brom? You don't

25:43

have a little Admiral spot you could get him? There

25:47

is a vibe, especially when Brom calls in

25:49

that he caught Sato and Ezra. Brom's

25:53

not a fool. He immediately knows who Ezra is, especially when Ezra

25:55

pulls his eye. I'm Jabba the Hutt, bitch. I love that coming

25:57

up. He tries to say he's Jabba the Hutt. again

26:00

for like the eighth time and finally it blows

26:02

up in his face because like the Imperials

26:04

just keep a dossier on on on

26:07

aliases presumably oh yeah you know the

26:09

kids search through files but they keep

26:11

a file out they remember it yeah

26:13

exactly but yeah so he's like read

26:15

the file he knows he knows who

26:17

the kid is but the

26:19

minute he calls it in to agent

26:21

callus there

26:24

is a vibe of now

26:26

cousin brahm I know you've

26:28

done a good job and I'm just I'm just

26:30

telling you don't do anything else you know like

26:33

you know you really had you really caught it you caught

26:35

one on the line here and I'm just telling you you

26:38

don't need to dress that thing you don't need to clean it

26:40

you don't need to go to I'll come do all that you

26:43

know this is where it all goes wrong for

26:45

you when you try to do too much I'll

26:47

be there hey just hang just hang don't fuck

26:49

with that kid yeah which

26:52

is the key the key message like don't

26:55

fuck with that kid and don't trust he will

26:57

stay where you put him triple guard which

27:00

I kind of a bear sell

27:05

as we got out first yeah

27:09

they should have kept him on the ground where he

27:11

was when people with guns

27:13

and here they stay I kind

27:16

of like that he's on that ray program where

27:19

it's like his superpower is basically

27:21

being slippery as hell that's right

27:24

and yeah callus has this like

27:26

instinctive fear of like oh

27:28

no Dennis the menace is gonna do something

27:31

again like this is he's aboard the interdict

27:33

cruiser that's the worst place yeah well I

27:35

guess we don't have an interdict a cruiser

27:37

anymore fuck right no

27:40

captain your men are already dead you

27:42

probably a 14 year yeah it's

27:45

a real you're trapped in there with

27:47

him moment yeah but Ezra is kind

27:49

of a beast in these episodes it's

27:51

very funny to have gone from blood

27:53

sisters last week where he was like

27:55

literally kicking rocks and what

27:57

was mean to hear where

27:59

he is Like on

28:02

his shit wall. He's doing wall running.

28:04

This is respawns Ezra Bridger is here

28:07

He's doing I mean double jump he can he

28:09

can double jump. He yeah double jump he can

28:21

He literally gets made because he's still using

28:23

the job of the hunt I mean

28:25

yeah like 100% But then he like turns on her to

28:27

like my work. That's right. He wants them to know he was he's playing Java

28:34

was here Sabor

28:38

while they have it that's

28:40

cool. I admit that it's cool I'm just

28:42

saying everything that he says yeah the way

28:44

that he is written. He's so a little

28:46

boy He is a little boy. Yes, but

28:49

he's being written like little boy. He's the

28:51

thing is like last episode. He was like

28:53

little boy In

28:55

a different person's show and now he's like a little

28:58

boy in his own show He's like Peter Parker at

29:00

spider-man as a 15 year old. You know what I

29:02

mean like really good point I hadn't

29:04

really clocked that shift, but he

29:06

does feel a lot more Centralized

29:10

in in like grounded

29:12

in this season then

29:15

in Compared to

29:17

last season where he was just kind of finding.

29:19

I mean we were all kind of finding our

29:21

footing with all the characters But

29:24

he does feel so much more like

29:26

the anchor between Everyone

29:28

I mean this episode specifically is him be like you

29:31

all have to get over the shit because I have

29:33

to go be the Main character, and you're my two

29:35

dads Get the fuck

29:37

over it Something small that

29:39

I want to point out. That's interesting about the choreography

29:43

here the action choreography not

29:45

only is he doing a wall running and Just

29:48

like beating the shit out of stormtroopers left and

29:50

right and like impressing people every episode I

29:53

Think that we moved The first two here have moments where

29:55

someone like don't go out there by yourself And Then he

29:57

does go out there by himself and wins right? And he's

29:59

like. There's a bit were like him

30:01

and and rationally damn okay like I'll I'll

30:03

you know you guys I wasn't really what

30:06

your dame hugs Extremely impressed by the way

30:08

he handles and to do is i see

30:10

suits both of them when they come to

30:13

rescue him because he's already free and he

30:15

that has been repaired that the mehmet receive

30:17

chopper and then we have a long delayed

30:19

point drop as he realizes choppers where the

30:22

crisis of them is hop diversion home alone

30:24

the Us the most guys are my guys

30:26

on and suffer stitches on him. Our.

30:29

Guy plays plays. Plays

30:32

the tape of ever suiting the

30:34

to undercover Breton rec or direction

30:36

others. Gotta keep a real time

30:38

setting he they keep it totally.

30:41

Cool his own A we remain. Without.

30:43

Ends and suffered us ally. Charles

30:46

never lie alley have absolutely no

30:49

integrity years for me around here

30:51

to that whatever whatever charges and

30:53

mixed it on as yours is

30:55

your own next year now. Or

30:59

later. Oh man, I'm I'm

31:02

sure I'm living with him.

31:04

off the crops. Yeah, Look

31:08

real as a copy of the Zebra. You're right, I'll

31:10

add. Oh boy.

31:12

Selling. As I get his side

31:15

I may say what I said this

31:17

is the say I was built a

31:19

series of one thing in that choreography

31:22

besides just he's strong. Ah and

31:24

besides what he's doing risk shifts, bomb

31:26

or or a small details I know

31:28

says he doesn't reflect blaster both back

31:31

he backed them back. He's like punchy

31:33

like hitting them with force at all

31:35

this crags we have a lot of

31:38

wind. Power. behind it in

31:40

a way that it did not the

31:42

first season certainly and in that he

31:44

not even really for the first half

31:46

of this season but now he has

31:48

like swinging that saber am in big

31:50

strong motions and that plus the way

31:52

he runs off by himself had meat

31:54

and precipitately with rex looking at him

31:56

made me realize that one of the

31:58

steaks of the show going

32:00

to be? Is he going

32:02

to Anakin himself? Right? His

32:05

parents are dead. Does he have

32:07

the support necessary to prevent himself from

32:09

taking angry, violent action? Right? To get

32:12

revenge for them, for instance. Or

32:15

simply, he has a strong heart and a strong

32:17

sense of justice. When the rebellion leadership says, you

32:19

can't do X, we don't have the position, we're

32:21

not in the position to do X, will he

32:23

accept that? Or will he go off on his

32:25

own and go try to solve something for himself?

32:28

And on one of the later episodes today, there's a moment

32:30

where he's just like, I can't figure this out.

32:33

The force led me here, why didn't it lead

32:35

me further? And he gets angry for a moment,

32:37

or he gets frustrated for a moment. And Kanan

32:39

is there to be like, all right, like calm

32:41

down. And like, if not for that, where does

32:44

his where does that line of emotion take him?

32:46

Right? And I hadn't really thought about

32:48

Ezra as being one of the

32:50

stakes of the show in this particular way

32:52

of like, could Ezra walk

32:55

the same bad path as Anakin, that

32:57

Anakin eventually does, is not one of

32:59

the things I expect to care about.

33:01

But seeing him like grow powerful is

33:03

like, oh, right, jolly, are

33:05

actually kind of dangerous. And one of the big

33:07

things that makes them dangerous is they want to

33:09

change the world, but sometimes can't do that. And

33:12

that leads them into dark places, right? Or the

33:14

other side of they wanted to say you want

33:16

to change the world, but not that bad. Which

33:18

of those sides could he fall bad on, you

33:20

know? Especially I think

33:23

over the course of these three episodes

33:25

that that leaning

33:28

more into kind of offensive,

33:31

aggressive fighting

33:33

style becomes more and more

33:35

evident. And as we will

33:37

kind of come to see that sort of

33:39

aligns with him in tapping

33:42

into his emotions and feelings more

33:44

and more. So I think you're

33:46

probably on to that. I feel

33:48

like that trajectory makes a lot

33:50

of sense. I would love it

33:52

if like gifted

33:54

Jedi could have any other

33:57

type of story then. The

34:00

parents are dead and I might

34:02

get a little evil about it,

34:04

but ah, you know, It's

34:07

fine, Sent. The

34:09

spice. Both. Live up the

34:11

X Factor judges you They thrive

34:13

as gives your first round draft

34:15

pick a jet i the ice

34:17

that socialism issue to be a

34:19

pretty good. And his parents

34:22

are dead. Oh, put him on the board.

34:24

Know about the board As we get to

34:26

travel a draft. we are trapped in the

34:28

draft we need. We need him to them

34:31

on the team that's rookie the year right

34:33

there. Somehow you

34:35

like a speeder without. Us

34:39

as I'm not supposed to take. guess this

34:41

is as a gift this is reserved. this

34:44

is just alone. it's different. Will we be

34:46

given a to your mom move? I know

34:48

she's not around server as you know as

34:50

while you think receivership of his car these

34:53

are going to play and like three years

34:55

we can we so deep into the world

34:57

works holocene make money now so we did

34:59

all of all those jokes out as we

35:02

can right now. And

35:04

wealth, people listening and like years to

35:06

come. Just.

35:08

Read about the old and see double size

35:10

as though the world of of off the

35:13

book com of compensation to them. To my

35:15

world there's one thing on to. Just

35:17

Quit. We ask your above the i'm

35:19

seem between brahmin and rocks were from

35:22

does serve highlight the fact the serves

35:24

the empire that rec rex built. to

35:28

degree likes. It. So he

35:30

may reckon offer a half years read to

35:32

throw his himself away. As you noted may

35:35

be non necessarily when they're like down the

35:37

hallway from where the ship is and he

35:39

like pushes them to the else forests given

35:41

I'll hold them back to my other you

35:43

could gotten away but but he of tattered.

35:46

Yeah. Ah, So.

35:50

I. Was of two minds I think. smells like

35:52

both things are true in the same answers

35:54

your your temperature I'm at a lower than

35:56

is trying to. Trick Rak This

35:58

is this is. Bhatia right by

36:01

you. You know if you sign a

36:03

confession will make sure yet leniency you

36:05

know they'll be no annoy him at

36:07

that I think is what is going

36:09

on. On the

36:11

other hand, I'm not entirely sure he

36:13

is fronting about like. Disguise

36:15

of us got war hero writers, a

36:18

degree of honest reference of like holy

36:20

shit. This. Is Captain Racks

36:22

yeah damn what are you doing

36:24

here? What he says are people

36:26

who didn't listen or like your

36:28

clone. You used to be out

36:30

a war hero. I scanned your

36:32

number I looked up at your

36:34

file you are a your you

36:36

genuinely were a hero once I'm ah

36:38

you again he really believes you

36:40

brought peace and order. The Galaxy

36:42

Wire is loyal to us. That

36:45

offers him. Hey turning your people come to

36:48

eat with us up at the academy. I'll

36:50

get you a cushy spot, you know? I.

36:54

I kind of believe the offer but maybe that's

36:57

just of the state. has a weird face and

36:59

sad eyes. And he seems

37:01

the type to make this offer genuinely. But.

37:05

Maybe I'm wrong. Uncanny

37:08

Valley Patrick Jane. Oh My.

37:10

God He Is. He is.

37:13

Patrick. Jane and the Mentalists For those. Ah

37:17

he really is seen the men

37:19

to Live Now I feel like

37:21

that has been kinda weird. scraggly

37:23

bambee of the character. Outcome comes

37:26

the like he's like a pattern

37:28

thing. okay Ali and right was

37:30

that right? See that see the

37:32

act or Simon Baker is is

37:35

Australia see the like This is

37:37

he like A by Uk. He's.

37:39

Like British Simon Baker? Patrick

37:41

Jane? Yeah. Yeah.

37:44

The Under I. Miss.

37:46

It. What's it like? Bolts.

37:48

Yeah, I thought it was a bit of. A

37:51

mental says really good picture smallest

37:53

amount of from eye on it

37:56

Herbs I've done that before but.

37:59

People. said Also from the

38:01

devil wears Prada fame. Oh Sure,

38:06

he plays the evil guy spoilers

38:09

for devil of his product. Oh no She's

38:20

one of them they actually like this

38:22

probably a bunch of many devil's many devils wear

38:24

Prada We can't all be family to

38:26

G Damn, they can't they

38:28

absolutely can't ain't that the problem with the

38:30

world So

38:34

Yeah, but yeah to me it does it does kind of

38:36

feel like and I think this gets at some of what?

38:42

You're I can't what is in reference to

38:44

last last episode Austin but talking about Sometimes

38:47

the frustration of it

38:49

feels like too many Imperials are in on the

38:51

gag that it's all like Sith pure It

38:54

was it was callus saying the rebels

38:57

always like yeah to help people and it's

38:59

like shut the fuck up Whereas

39:02

this guy I think is much more of like

39:04

what you'd like to see which is this this

39:06

guy who like He thinks

39:08

he's the inheritor of a great victory that

39:10

established this this new order and he's defending

39:12

the fruits of that victory by

39:15

twin this interdictor

39:18

and you know turning turning

39:20

rebel agents And

39:22

this like so there feels like

39:25

there's less just evil for evil

39:27

sake pure Nihilism to

39:29

this guy. Yeah, when he's making this pitch, which

39:31

I did which why I think the Maybe

39:35

the offer is bogus, but

39:37

I don't think the spirit behind it is which I would have had

39:39

to dig in the scene Yeah,

39:41

I'm with you on that read makes sense to me

39:45

of course, it doesn't matter Rex would never take this

39:47

offer and Caine and decides of course

39:49

to go back and save him anyway, you know

39:52

and I'm watching this now and really

39:54

calls to attention thing I was saying before of the

39:58

difference in reflecting Bolt's

40:00

back. Canen is just like almost

40:02

absent mindedly like block, block. I'm blocking

40:04

these incoming blaster bolts. Not a big

40:06

deal. I'm turning, I'm talking to Ezra

40:08

and when Ezra's doing it, it's like,

40:11

ah, like batter fucking up different

40:14

vibes. But you

40:16

know, we're going to get the heartwarming Canen

40:18

decides that's his boy. He's going to go

40:20

get them. He busts in.

40:22

They shoot the interrogation

40:26

drone, droid before it starts doing its work.

40:29

They fight their way out. Totally

40:31

passable episode, right? Yeah. I

40:34

will say the only last

40:38

thing I wanted to say about this episode

40:40

is that I had the exact like I

40:42

I think I was the

40:46

ideal watcher for like the first

40:48

five minutes of this episode because

40:52

as as Ezra got pulled out of hyperspace, I

40:54

was like, how could you pull

40:56

a ship out of

40:58

hyperspace? How could that be possible? And

41:02

and here and here is the

41:04

exact same thing. Like you can't pull a ship out

41:06

of hyperspace because you never know where it is. And

41:09

I was like, that's what I was. They

41:12

have my thoughts. Exactly.

41:15

And then the and then Sabine, which

41:17

we didn't mention this. You find out

41:19

that the reason why

41:21

this crew like Sabine

41:24

tells the crew that while

41:27

she was at the Imperial Academy, she

41:29

saw them developing these gravity wells.

41:31

And this must be and then we come

41:33

to find out the area specifically that the

41:35

Imperial this Imperial fleet

41:37

are in is like testing

41:40

grounds for this gravity well.

41:44

Which is because it's like this is another recurring

41:46

thing with the maybe not

41:48

interesting, but it is another recurring thing that

41:50

we get with the Empire in this era

41:52

is the Empire is an empire of super

41:54

weapons. You know, we

41:56

talked about this a lot during maybe maybe

41:58

during Andor and the. like the focus

42:00

on the Death Star creation, but also

42:03

in Clone Wars era, that like, oh

42:05

look, you can see the first shades

42:07

of the Empire to come. The Empire

42:10

is about technology. It's about one

42:12

big weapon. And also it's really playing on a

42:14

lot of the kind of like the

42:17

secret super weapons of the Nazis, of

42:19

the Luftwaffe, like that era of, or

42:21

that part of war fandom that's like

42:24

really interested in all of the weirdo

42:26

things that didn't get off the ground,

42:28

all the secret experiments that didn't quite

42:30

work. That is

42:33

one of the touchstones of the way the

42:35

Empire has always been depicted in Star Wars,

42:37

especially in expanded universe stuff. It's

42:40

fun. It's fun to have a villain that

42:44

has a big super weapon of the week sometimes.

42:48

OG Gundam, you know, first Gundam did this

42:50

big time, the same thing where it's like,

42:52

okay, there's a bunch of regular robots, but

42:54

then they also have these big mobile armors

42:56

that are like goofy, sell a big toy

42:58

play set ass, you know, super

43:01

weapon of the week that's gonna get got.

43:04

But it does, you know, as far as the kind

43:06

of episode of the week, story of the week thing

43:08

goes, how do we deal

43:10

with this big interdictor ship is fun, you

43:12

know, and then you deal

43:14

with it in a funny way. And now we deal with

43:16

it in a fun, high jinx filled battle with Chopper and

43:18

Ezra, wrecking out, sabotaging

43:20

the gravity well generators.

43:23

And then we get pretty

43:26

awesome death throes of the interdictor as

43:28

it, you know, we get Chopper going

43:30

wait for it as they are being

43:32

pulled back toward the interdictor. But so

43:34

is the entire Imperial fleet and

43:36

its projectors go berserk

43:39

and it implodes. It implodes,

43:42

it sucks all the ships into itself. And

43:44

that collapses into a little black hole. Braum makes

43:46

it off the ship. And we do get

43:48

a comical sort of coda on

43:51

his story as Callus arrives just

43:53

a bit too late and

43:57

tartly notes that things do not appear to have gone

43:59

away. Yeah, I

44:01

love the ships crashing into the interdictor the interdictor

44:04

is like a big Star Destroyer ish Design,

44:06

but it has these kind of big outside

44:09

dome bulbs on it Which are the

44:11

gravity well generators and seeing

44:13

these other smaller cruisers kind of slam

44:15

and scrape into it It's some of

44:17

the best destruction work we've seen in

44:19

the show so far. It looks

44:22

they got Oh Bliterated they

44:24

got literally when the whole ship explodes.

44:26

It looks sick as hell wild. It's

44:28

so cool Yeah This

44:30

is it's fun to see people. It's fun to see

44:32

them playing with these toys. It just works when

44:35

they go big like this. I original

44:38

Star Wars era ship design just rules Sato's

44:41

ship which is the same sort of blockade

44:44

runner that Leia has is just a cool

44:46

design Like yeah, it's good.

44:49

I have one piece of I Want

44:52

them to bug me in this episode which is they

44:54

have this imperial shuttle Which they joke

44:56

about early on being like it's not the same

44:58

shuttle and we just steal another one, but

45:01

in it Sabine has

45:03

graffitied Rex

45:07

and Canaan But

45:10

we're going undercover. It's a great

45:12

image It's Rex like like

45:15

dual wielding pistols and came at the

45:17

light saber out It's very cute, but

45:19

it's right behind them in the cockpit

45:22

You couldn't put that in like one of

45:24

the like the private quarters You couldn't put

45:26

that in some up. No, it's like in

45:28

the cockpit if they come on the

45:30

kid for boys love Old

45:33

man y'all is here Finally

45:36

it's made it to rebels Very

45:39

funny Yeah,

45:41

all right episodes totally totally good

45:44

Yeah, good times. Just a just a fun adventure

45:47

Next next up we are back to

45:49

some old-school and I do mean old-school

45:52

vintage Jedi order business

45:55

as the future of the force opens on

45:57

a force sensitive, baby being taken

45:59

by brother and seventh sister as they

46:01

massacre a starliner full of people to get to

46:03

their target I was horrified all I could think

46:05

about was like that could have

46:08

been us yeah wow

46:11

wow so true true

46:13

you should have gone to the sub light

46:15

lounge never would have gotten there it seems

46:18

like the only kill people in that one

46:20

hallway I've been somewhere else I would have

46:22

been a great dragon react I just think

46:24

the servers at the sub light lounge would

46:26

have just dealt with it you know what

46:29

I mean yeah yeah do that in here

46:31

yeah you're not allowed I'm sorry done also

46:36

just shows how far the universe has fallen

46:38

like the baby's being cared for by a

46:40

sentient being they don't have uber boobah droids

46:42

well we do get an updated uber boobah

46:44

droid in this episode we do do we

46:47

we get some big you shaped uber do

46:49

but it's like it's like no I know

46:51

how I think that the uber

46:55

droid has gone from insect to bug it's

46:57

gone from boobah to kiki it's just a

46:59

big stretch out what you know

47:01

what I mean it's just a bit it has the

47:03

back I think that was I think that was I

47:05

think that was a contagion mob that was that's

47:10

how far we've fallen I said

47:12

get rid of the round half the uber boobah droid

47:14

right this is all we got here you just gotta

47:16

make your room but do it this is what I'm

47:18

saying when your room but has to be a big

47:20

stick with like the uber droid

47:22

that we get here the whatever

47:24

household chores droid that we have here I

47:27

killed you in armor core six fires at

47:29

the Rubicon I'm sorry you were just some

47:31

tank treads and a tall pole I

47:34

whooped your ass I got a little arena

47:36

emblem for you so

47:38

apologies for that I didn't know that you were a

47:41

caretaker of children I wouldn't have done

47:43

it so apologies to the the new

47:45

stick droid well this is just like

47:47

that's that moment in all quiet when

47:49

when Paul reads the the read the

47:52

like wallet of the French So

47:56

Cain and Ezra and Zab and chop are sent

47:58

by So get to look into rumors. The the

48:00

inquisitorial baby ceiling with the scene they

48:02

go to the plan to Kobo Aussie

48:05

checks out the star liner and finds

48:07

the baby's granny still live. Meanwhile.

48:09

For Ghosts and a baby. hi Jason

48:12

Sue as the gang rescues and Authority

48:14

and July baby and then plays cat

48:16

and mouse with inquisitors. first tournaments and

48:18

next aboard speeders racing through traffic. the

48:21

finally quartered and before they get to

48:23

the ship ah yeah they they They

48:25

lose their fight with the with the

48:27

to inquisitors but the blast doors open

48:29

and from a long of pure white

48:32

light comes the So Gitano who quickly

48:34

best the Imperial see spare some sister

48:36

rallies or the Legion reinforcements arrive at

48:38

course. Aka who. Merely forced jumps off

48:41

the planet basically eye catching the Phantom

48:43

in mid air is worthless. Ah, unfortunately

48:45

at the episode and we see Seven

48:47

Sister playing back a recording one of

48:49

her adorable probes took of as or

48:52

a comfort in the baby by inviting

48:54

have to come live with them and

48:56

growl accidently the train the location of

48:58

their hideout. P.my know and

49:00

learned that that's how they found

49:02

out he so lucky. That

49:05

for now. The I guess softly. As

49:07

for now I've one in four weeks area before

49:09

we start with aims are the planet as takes

49:12

place on mostly grub to cover. Your

49:14

Why do you think it's a map. Has

49:17

we're getting some classic Clone

49:19

Wars. Writers' Room shit here.

49:22

Oh, I've gone. To

49:25

do tacos you got it in online.

49:27

I will read to you from this

49:29

ah this entry. it's or the world

49:31

to Cabo may or may not have

49:33

had his name derives from the fact

49:36

that the dining option. On.

49:38

That day of the Writers' Room. Was

49:40

a nearby taco bar. You

49:45

know, you know, So you could

49:47

have been a higher than should have been

49:49

built on how to write what we that's

49:51

shameful for those. So se an.

49:57

Awesome to go! From

50:00

the My.out you tuxedo. Fucking

50:04

clue what you know as he. Did

50:07

you don't remember to see no

50:09

further Way I know you know

50:11

your Averted Snyder Leveraged Tito. It's

50:13

a smattering of about this episode

50:15

on the Depot Hood episode dubbed

50:17

The Way that We Learn must

50:19

have could smell of the. This

50:23

is supposed to remember the other

50:25

half of back whole episode is

50:27

new of indecent have the either

50:30

the other. Every episodes were like.

50:33

I feel like ours somehow is

50:35

Pad May slowly dying from the

50:37

nouveau been be poison lot of

50:39

her secret a husband has blown

50:41

away to secure the planet of

50:44

a thousand moons to direct. I

50:46

guess that whole episode was a

50:48

one hour special for that. Okay

50:50

but ah yeah the guy who

50:52

gets killed trying to escape the

50:55

planet is to Tito, a friend

50:57

of J Bows who gives electrocuted

50:59

before his super explodes. He's

51:02

like a rhodium. Named Akita Riders Rooms,

51:04

they've been known to be sneaky.

51:06

Assume. They get hungry. That. Is

51:09

simply doesn't own a lame ass

51:11

right? Totally hims used to come

51:13

up with. I mean bursar. So

51:15

other say this me opening here.

51:19

So. Services Bit of a fixer upper. I'll

51:22

concede that. I'm. Not sure

51:25

why not. You know that arguably

51:27

her Friday was a pyramid. our

51:29

best. The Seven Sisters. Are

51:31

you receive the like know it's a

51:34

name words are you said it would.

51:36

Last episode side Iran was a red

51:38

flags that may than a red flags

51:40

that she was like Ezra Bridger. The

51:43

arrival of all that good know maybe

51:45

not a good sign. All that energy

51:47

is dawn This episode by the way.

51:51

Yeah. I can I can see it also

51:53

go to my to be evil. you

51:56

know how valuable yeah was a killing all the people

51:58

who try to steer I

52:01

guess it was fifth brother mostly doing that right?

52:03

No Trash

52:08

at doing that cuz he does at the end of

52:10

this episode and doesn't pull it back to him. It

52:13

just clatters across the ground He's

52:15

not good like suddenly this is so

52:17

interesting fifth brothers introduces like Vader's sending.

52:20

Yeah You

52:22

know an elite inquisitor and it's just brother Who

52:25

seems to just be bad at this and

52:27

seven sisters seems like the brains and the

52:30

bra into the operation So I might be back

52:32

in yeah, yeah She

52:35

is the rebel. She is rebels Marjane No,

52:42

what if and I think that this comes from

52:44

a conversation from a friend of mine I remember who

52:46

suggested this what if Barris off

52:48

he becomes a soak as marriage aid That's

52:52

what I would like to see. I don't support

52:54

this. Yes Mary

52:57

Jane start. No Personal

53:05

assassin, yes That

53:07

make her okay. Yeah, we should

53:10

just get married shade people have

53:12

job That's right

53:19

Marriage aid revealing to all

53:21

of why a Twitter that her actual

53:24

job is being the secret assassin of

53:26

the Emperor Healthcare

53:28

is good anyway

53:33

Shots sometimes you just fire some shots off

53:36

the Other thing

53:38

about this episode that is a goofy

53:40

trivia piece before we get into it

53:42

too deep Is the name of the

53:44

face first baby is a Laura? Which

53:47

is the name of the baby in Willow that

53:49

the movie will I was about? Then

53:52

who is looks like this baby

53:54

big head old baby getting carried around

53:57

and in Willow All or is

53:59

like some sort of emperi Some

54:01

baby empress. I don't know. I'm not a willow head.

54:04

Yeah, you know Willow Willow The other the other

54:06

big Lucas swing of the 80s in 1988 Lucas

54:11

arts Lucas arts Lucas film made up a

54:14

fantasy movie called Willow with like

54:18

Oh my god, what is his name? What is the oh,

54:21

yeah, Val Kilmer, Warwick Davis, Warwick Davis who

54:23

had previously been wicked The

54:25

Ewok is a major character in it. Yeah, we

54:27

should watch that at some point. It'll be a fun

54:30

we should so

54:33

American graffiti I

54:37

Was thinking to say that there's like a film list that I

54:39

want to put together of things that I want to watch

54:41

before and or season two. Mm-hmm.

54:44

Yeah The

54:46

battle for Algiers Michael

54:50

Clayton Michael Clayton, we

54:52

should watch Michael Clayton I'll

54:55

see Michael Clayton Michael Clayton That's

54:59

a good movie anyway For

55:01

about this stolen babies. Did y'all have a

55:03

good feeling what the babies are being stolen

55:06

for immediately? Yes immediately I guess the name

55:08

of the episode is future of the force

55:10

which kind of suggests it even without that

55:13

but you think How many

55:15

quizzers like? They're not creating

55:18

an alternate Jedi order where it's just like bizarro

55:20

Jedi order with the quiz But that's

55:22

not what they were doing last time either So

55:25

remember we did this plot before yeah, it

55:28

wasn't about creating alternative

55:32

Jedi order thing it was that

55:35

is that Palpatine was gonna like put we're gonna put them

55:37

into like a Brain

55:40

juicer that gave him psychic

55:42

powers I read

55:44

the name of that episode was it was like children of

55:46

the force Right. I'm

55:48

remembering this that the end the whole

55:51

thing was that he had a device

55:53

I don't remember the device Yeah,

55:58

there's definitely device Yeah,

56:00

I think his whole thing was like, I'm going to get

56:03

to see the future by brain

56:05

draining these guys. Maybe I'm

56:07

wrong. But my point

56:09

being, I don't think it was as simple as,

56:14

I need more inquisitors. I'm raising the

56:16

inquisitors. He might also just want to kill them to

56:18

prevent them from being dead. Why did you understand why

56:20

they're just killing the babies right away? Right. Well, that's

56:22

the thing I don't get. Because Seven Sisters is too

56:24

good and she wouldn't allow that and knew it. But

56:27

you could make Dark Jedi. You could make a bunch of...

56:32

But they don't want a lot of Dark Jedi.

56:35

I mean, they want some

56:37

to quash out what's left of the

56:39

Jedi Order and the potential to rise

56:41

again. But they do not want lots

56:43

of Force users running around who might

56:45

potentially become a threat to... This is

56:48

the whole thing. Palpatine seems to

56:50

have engineered this really carefully to make sure

56:52

no... We're not going... This is

56:54

not going to go bad the way it always

56:56

goes bad for the Sith. I

56:59

see what you mean. Yeah, that's

57:01

a good point. But

57:04

the one part of this episode I don't fully

57:06

get is like, I don't understand. It's

57:08

like, if the reveal is like,

57:10

this is how they're creating quizzers. Yeah, we kind of

57:12

knew that. They're clearly sourcing Force-sensitives

57:14

for this purpose from somewhere.

57:17

But I also don't understand why they would

57:19

just take the baby off the ship and

57:21

not just like, you know, kill it. Yeah,

57:23

okay. Here is... I found

57:25

the script. I found a transcript of

57:28

Children of the Force, which is

57:30

the episode in Clone Wars. I

57:33

will say it's very funny because it has

57:36

been censored. It was a censored

57:39

script. The

57:42

opening is, a thief hunted in

57:44

a daring assault. Anakin Skywalker and

57:46

his padawan Ahsoka. But

57:49

assault has an asterisk in it to prevent it

57:51

from saying ass or

57:53

assault, I guess. Oh my god.

57:55

The word slave has been asterisked

57:57

out here. Very funny. to

58:00

me. Anyway, here is what... The

58:02

TikTok sensors are coming. They saw

58:04

them. That's right. The Oobaduba

58:06

Droid says, they're

58:08

their child. Soon you will cry no more.

58:11

Master, subjects of this age rarely

58:13

survive the slave conditioning procedure. And

58:16

Palpatine says, I'm afraid the risk is

58:18

necessary. And then he

58:20

continues to say, the natural

58:23

talent these children possess is too great

58:25

to be wasted by the Jedi. I

58:27

foresee an army of force-talented spies in

58:30

my service, trained

58:32

in the dark side to peer into

58:34

every corner of the galaxy from afar

58:36

and my enemies would be helpless against

58:39

such a vision. If the surgery fails,

58:41

I will have lost nothing. So he's

58:43

like, he's going to chip him. He's

58:45

chipping him. He's chipping him up.

58:47

And then they're going to be his little, his like,

58:50

his minority report spies basically.

58:52

Right? And if they don't survive, then he still

58:54

wins. Then he still wins. Right. Exactly. So I

58:57

think that's probably what he's doing again. That's my

58:59

guess. Maybe you're right. Maybe it's more inquisitors. But

59:03

we know at least one of

59:05

these inquisitors is Ex-Jedi, right? Didn't somebody mention,

59:07

didn't one of the inquisitors at this point

59:09

mention falling? Not

59:13

falling, but. They mentioned, so we

59:15

know this from the Calcastas games.

59:18

Right. Explicitly the inquisitor you made in the

59:20

first game is like, I

59:22

was a Padawan. Dunno. Oubawana also same

59:25

story. Ex-Padawan. I

59:28

don't know if they're all Ex-Padawans. I don't think they are. Yeah.

59:31

I don't know. The timing on it's weird,

59:33

right? Because it's like, did

59:35

he have enough time to get an inquisitor

59:37

training program up and running for

59:40

children in, I don't know. It's been 20

59:42

years, right? Almost 20 years. So. Could've.

59:47

Anyway. Not really. Investigating

59:50

the children or investigating. That's right. They don't

59:52

even know it's children at first. They just

59:54

know the inquisitors are moving.

59:57

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Ahsoka shows up and

59:59

she's. She's like, I've been trying

1:00:01

to listen to Anakin's phone calls. I

1:00:04

can't choose that. She does not say Anakin. She doesn't

1:00:06

even say Vegas. Right. She's the

1:00:08

stick boy. Yeah. She just says, I've

1:00:10

been listening to the comms on

1:00:13

Mustafar. And I can't

1:00:15

unencrypt them except that I know that the Inquisitors are going

1:00:17

to these two locations basically.

1:00:20

Do you think that's true? Do you think she's heard more and

1:00:22

she's not telling them anything? Yeah.

1:00:24

She's known to life. Damn true. There's

1:00:27

that great moment early on in this episode where she

1:00:29

shows up and she's like, I'm here on Jedi business.

1:00:33

And Kanan is like, I guess I

1:00:35

qualify. And she's like, you qualify more

1:00:37

than I do. I

1:00:40

found that really good. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:43

I'm happy to have a bunch of Jedi who aren't Jedi in

1:00:45

this show. Which should be.

1:00:49

Them comparing like a cert versus

1:00:51

a bachelor's of Jedi. I don't know.

1:00:54

Do either of these count? I don't know. I

1:00:56

think it's a cert versus an associates really.

1:00:59

Yeah. You know? I

1:01:03

will say like the

1:01:06

little Thorin baby, it's cute

1:01:08

them finding like them finding

1:01:10

the joins department and discovering the story

1:01:12

and then Chopper turning out to be

1:01:14

really good with the

1:01:17

baby is a funny bit. It's

1:01:20

very cute. I also really love. I

1:01:24

really love the I forgot

1:01:27

what I really love. I really love something

1:01:29

else about this baby. That's all. It's just fun.

1:01:32

Fun to have babies as a as a as

1:01:34

a gag in a show. That's it. I

1:01:36

thought there was I thought we

1:01:39

were waiting for them to find

1:01:41

the blueberries that the baby had

1:01:43

been eating because I had like

1:01:46

purple like

1:01:48

stains on their

1:01:50

hands. And

1:01:53

I thought the reason why they kept

1:01:55

crying was because they wanted their like

1:01:57

juba fruit or whatever. I

1:02:00

had been fucking snacking on. Yeah, OK.

1:02:02

And I just kept waiting for the shoe to

1:02:04

drop for like them to be like, wait, look

1:02:07

at it's hands. It

1:02:09

has purple hands. We just had

1:02:11

to get the two berries or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:02:13

remember the thing I was just saying that I like,

1:02:16

which is more sensitive. Yeah.

1:02:19

The the baby,

1:02:21

I think specifically, what is the thorium

1:02:23

baby? I see. Is that pipey? Yeah.

1:02:26

Pipey is voiced by the badly de

1:02:28

broadly Baker, who is D

1:02:30

is wrong with all the clothes. So

1:02:33

they got D to do with the baby voice in this episode,

1:02:35

which is fun. That is very bad to

1:02:37

me is great. I felt

1:02:39

bad for the for the droid that was running

1:02:41

around hiding the baby. Was

1:02:45

it was it was it trembling with

1:02:47

fear when that cornered it? Yeah, I

1:02:49

think so. And then

1:02:51

you wouldn't let it come with and like, you got

1:02:53

to be a decoy. It died immediately. It died immediately.

1:02:55

That was me in armored course six fires of the

1:02:58

Rubicon with a laser blade. If you

1:03:00

turn the corner, you would have seen very similar maneuvers.

1:03:03

The very brother. That's right.

1:03:06

That's right. 100 percent. We

1:03:09

love to smash robots in the little pieces. And

1:03:14

then, you know, we get a whole chase in

1:03:16

that tenant building. Lots of like, you know, back

1:03:18

and forth through the the

1:03:21

catacomb, the sort of

1:03:23

war in of rooms that there they're

1:03:25

running through. Yeah,

1:03:28

it's it's a fun

1:03:30

chase. I do love. It's a

1:03:32

good car chase. I started and made all the

1:03:34

funnier by the fact that the driver

1:03:36

of their car is completely like press

1:03:39

gang into it. He's just a guy

1:03:41

who's convertible. They fell into the land

1:03:43

in. Yeah, it's good. I

1:03:46

was that not the mom, a Thorian. I

1:03:49

don't think so. That would be wild luck, wasn't

1:03:51

it? I

1:03:53

couldn't I was trying to remember what

1:03:55

color the shirt was. But

1:03:58

maybe it is. No, she looked. She

1:04:00

whoever that authority is is like shaking when they

1:04:02

run away. I think it's a different

1:04:04

authority than the one at the end Oh, maybe

1:04:07

probably maybe that's the same shirt color. It's like

1:04:09

right here. I thought it

1:04:11

was yeah I think it's her damn.

1:04:14

I think it's mom kid with

1:04:16

her right? Well, they're

1:04:18

protecting me. I mean yeah, she's

1:04:20

going to she's in the ship with them at

1:04:23

the end Mmm. Oh, right cuz

1:04:25

he's like go to document wherever.

1:04:27

Yeah, we're going to hell. Yeah, okay, so that

1:04:29

is her Okay, shut

1:04:31

up damn damn. She got

1:04:34

the forest how she show up and exactly the right

1:04:36

time That's

1:04:40

that mom's train Mom

1:04:44

for People be

1:04:46

forwarding the snaps of this episode on

1:04:48

Facebook. Like this is this is what

1:04:51

it is to be a mother Yeah

1:04:57

I you know, I think I want to say about some of

1:04:59

this like I like this chase just fine I think the chase

1:05:01

in the building is fine. It's good. It's good They

1:05:04

are hitting their beats, right? There's some gags They

1:05:07

do cut a perfect circle in the roof at one point We

1:05:10

get Ezra crawl do some crawling through

1:05:12

some vents and the fifth brother almost

1:05:14

stabbing him We get you

1:05:16

know some thermal detonator grenade type type action

1:05:18

like, you know, all that stuff it all

1:05:20

hits fine But there's something about this Location

1:05:23

both the interior of this kind

1:05:25

of tenement building and then which

1:05:28

by the way the name of this neighborhood is hammer town

1:05:31

Because it's like an a thorian slum

1:05:33

and the people of the planet are racist.

1:05:35

I guess so they call it hammer

1:05:37

town That's foul. It's foul But

1:05:41

that ends the car chase and

1:05:43

then especially the big final duel

1:05:45

area This feels so converse

1:05:48

to me and that it's fucking empty.

1:05:50

There is no one moving around these

1:05:52

places We are in a

1:05:54

fucking PS2 level like, you know what I

1:05:57

mean? Like it is hallways with doors that

1:05:59

do not open. Do not try that

1:06:01

door. That door is painted on. That door

1:06:03

does not open. Maybe it opens to let

1:06:05

three stormtroopers out at a time until you

1:06:07

kill them and then three more come out.

1:06:09

But that's not a place you can go.

1:06:11

And this whole back end of this episode

1:06:13

has that feel. And it's interesting because it's

1:06:15

not like Loathall is, has been

1:06:18

more dynamic necessarily, but I haven't felt

1:06:20

it the way I felt here,

1:06:23

felt it here, you know? It's

1:06:25

funny because when I was going

1:06:27

to point out that the landing sequence

1:06:29

on this planet looked really good. Like

1:06:31

I thought the planet looked really interesting.

1:06:34

The way that the buildings, the domes, yeah,

1:06:36

the buildings and like the dust kind of

1:06:39

parts of the ground peeking through like piles

1:06:41

of dust or dirt or sand or whatever

1:06:43

it is. And then yeah, then we enter

1:06:45

it and it's not

1:06:47

as dynamic as could

1:06:51

have been. And spend your budget where you have

1:06:53

your budget. But yeah. We

1:06:55

did get a perfect circle. Perfect

1:06:57

circle or? Oh, we did. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

1:06:59

That means Kane is training them right. They

1:07:02

did a collaborative circle drawing. It was

1:07:04

perfect. Not since Barris and

1:07:06

Ahsoka have we seen a team up

1:07:08

circle quite like this. That might have

1:07:10

been a square. I don't remember. Anyway,

1:07:13

points the same. And

1:07:15

then we get the duel. This is also

1:07:17

the first time I've really felt the filter

1:07:19

that they put on to stop

1:07:22

the like, if you're

1:07:24

watching this on Disney Plus, whenever the inquisitors

1:07:26

are on screen with the red twin bladed

1:07:29

lightsabers that do the rapid spin around thing,

1:07:31

for people who are not watching again, they

1:07:33

can hold their it's like a circle that

1:07:35

they have the saber

1:07:38

like hilt inside of and the blades

1:07:40

are on the outside of the circle

1:07:42

so they can like rapidly spin around

1:07:44

like automatically. And whenever they're

1:07:46

doing that and the camera is close up on

1:07:48

them, they put a filter

1:07:50

on the screen to like prevent

1:07:52

it from it's really Apple for people

1:07:55

for epileptic seizures, right, which I think is a

1:07:57

really good thing to have on this. But

1:08:00

it makes everything really dim, right? As far as

1:08:02

I know, there's no way to turn that off.

1:08:05

And there are some extended sequences where it's on

1:08:07

here that make the shots. Oh, I was wondering

1:08:09

why it looked like shit. They make the shots

1:08:12

really dark and like illegible. And

1:08:14

it's a bummer that there's not a way to be like, okay,

1:08:17

I am not epileptic or I don't have a risk

1:08:19

of seizure, you know, warning or no one is with

1:08:21

me watching. I mean, this is something I take seriously.

1:08:23

My mom had brain

1:08:26

surgery when I was a kid, had seizures

1:08:28

before the brain surgery, had seizures afterwards, had

1:08:30

to be careful around certain types of lights. Like I

1:08:33

take it seriously. I'd rather it default to be on,

1:08:35

but I would love to have an option to be

1:08:37

like, show me the version without this, because I would

1:08:39

love to see these fights without the

1:08:42

dimming built in, you know? So this

1:08:44

is the first time I've really felt

1:08:46

it because it's such an extended series

1:08:48

of shots that look washed out and

1:08:51

dim, you know? It's hard to read

1:08:53

them, so. Yeah,

1:08:56

it's, they just slap it like a, everything

1:08:58

looks a little bit gray when

1:09:00

they slap the filter on. It's

1:09:02

been happening with all the lightsaber fights. I just figured it

1:09:04

was like a weird like,

1:09:09

HDR thing that was happening or something,

1:09:11

but yeah. Kind of a,

1:09:13

this is not, they probably should have an option toggled

1:09:16

off because this is kind of a big issue for

1:09:18

a Star Wars. It's good

1:09:20

that you figure out that filter should be there, but

1:09:23

also if the solution is like, well,

1:09:25

I guess this stuff just can't look right

1:09:28

for a Star Wars thing, that's probably

1:09:30

not a great solution. Yeah. But

1:09:33

yeah. It

1:09:36

doesn't help that Ahsoka's got the brightest

1:09:38

life-favors in the mall. Right, she reveals

1:09:41

her new sabers here. They

1:09:43

look so cool. She

1:09:45

is so epic and cool when she

1:09:47

fights. I love to see her do

1:09:50

a like super jump

1:09:55

into a dive like Mario,

1:09:57

Cat Mario. Yeah, sure. It's

1:10:01

a really cool is the last time we've

1:10:03

seen her cheatsaber fight this she hasn't yet

1:10:05

This is the first time we've seen her

1:10:08

Pull the labors out right so that means I just want

1:10:11

to get in the right head here the

1:10:13

wrong Jedi Where I don't remember she

1:10:15

doesn't he lightsaber shit does she? the

1:10:18

final episode of that arc I Don't

1:10:21

remember she does but let's say she does some in

1:10:23

there Maybe maybe she escapes and uses the lightsabers a

1:10:25

little bit that mean at the end of Clone Wars

1:10:27

the end of season five of cloners We see a

1:10:29

whole season of photos in the

1:10:31

escape from prison. She doesn't yeah that which

1:10:33

is to catch a Jedi Which is which

1:10:35

is regardless? That's either February 23rd

1:10:37

or March 2nd 2013 No,

1:10:40

I stuck waiting trial in the final one. That's what

1:10:42

I'm thinking. Yeah, that's what I'm saying I don't remember

1:10:44

her doing any lightsaber stuff there. This is December 2nd

1:10:47

2015 So almost

1:10:49

three years between getting to

1:10:51

see Ahsoka at the end of season five of

1:10:53

Clone Wars and now Do

1:10:55

any lightsaber shit, so I really like

1:10:57

which honestly with our personal schedule that

1:10:59

might lie in up close You

1:11:02

might think So it's been a

1:11:04

minute since we've seen her show out and

1:11:07

she does she has the backwards style She's a

1:11:09

tool the two sabers. They're all white It's

1:11:12

fun all white is a fun way

1:11:14

to do sabers where you're like, I'm not a

1:11:16

Jedi, but I'm not a Sith You know so

1:11:18

cool Yeah,

1:11:20

I do have a white side the kyber crystal

1:11:22

for my life. You do I

1:11:26

just wish fifth brother and seven sister had a little

1:11:29

more juice. It's like this

1:11:32

this is a this is a little bit like an

1:11:35

ace pitcher from like You

1:11:38

know the Dodgers or

1:11:40

like this is this ring like this honey

1:11:43

like after the sir, you know, like yeah

1:11:45

Uh-huh, this is like, you know prime Otani

1:11:47

or something This is

1:11:49

Nolan Ryan coming out and these are These

1:11:52

are mine. These are my league over simile

1:11:54

years. Yeah, they get the fact that she

1:11:56

like there's a point at which she She

1:11:58

set her sabers down to, to,

1:12:00

she does, she turns her own sabers off

1:12:03

and like bows to let the seven sisters

1:12:05

jump in and then she puts her sabers

1:12:07

out and then reaches up and catches

1:12:09

her lightsaber, the seven sisters lightsaber in

1:12:11

her hands and tosses it to the

1:12:13

ground. And force powers it off. Bro!

1:12:16

Yeah! She's so strong, she's so

1:12:18

epic and strong. She's so epic and strong. Well

1:12:20

and she gives, she gives seventh of that moment

1:12:22

to like, you know you're dead. Well

1:12:25

we're here again folks, it's a Star

1:12:28

Wars reference. You are

1:12:30

beaten is what Darth Vader says to

1:12:32

Luke at, in

1:12:34

The Empire Strikes Back when he has

1:12:36

him in this exact shot but reversed.

1:12:38

Like, but like he's facing screen right

1:12:40

instead of facing screen left with

1:12:43

the, with the thing down. So she

1:12:45

is echoing Anakin without knowing it. Here

1:12:47

we are. Of course the thing that

1:12:49

then happens does not happen for Luke. Luke isn't like,

1:12:52

you're the one who's beaten and then 30,000 rebels roll out on him. Instead,

1:12:57

that is what happens here, a bunch of stormtroopers

1:12:59

show up. She could have won this fight. She should

1:13:02

have just stabbed, there are many moments in here.

1:13:04

Just kill him! There's a moment early on in this

1:13:06

fight where the fifth brother lands at Kanan's feet and

1:13:08

Kanan's like, alright time to go. Just

1:13:10

be like, boop, you're dead. That's it.

1:13:13

Come on. Has anyone been killed yet? Outside,

1:13:16

like outside of the Grand Inquisitor. Just the

1:13:18

Inquisitor and some, yeah I think, uh,

1:13:20

Tua. No! But

1:13:23

we don't see her die. Well she

1:13:25

explodes, right? But we don't,

1:13:27

we, in the way

1:13:29

that Anakin stabbed that

1:13:32

guy through the back. Right, that's who you're

1:13:34

saying. I feel like we don't see people

1:13:37

get, like it

1:13:39

feels like in some ways rebels

1:13:41

skews a little younger than Clone

1:13:45

Wars in the type of content

1:13:47

that it is portraying.

1:13:50

The stormtroopers get shot and maybe

1:13:52

get stabbed. But usually they're like,

1:13:56

we don't really see them get stabbed because I, I,

1:13:58

this And

1:14:00

distinctly, in the last episode, Ezra doesn't...

1:14:02

Yeah, he says that thing. He breaks

1:14:04

their lights. He doesn't even

1:14:06

attack them. He cuts their guns... The

1:14:10

blasters. Yeah, their blasters. And

1:14:12

then just kind of throws them against the

1:14:14

walls. But in the

1:14:17

next episode, he'll be a little bit more forthcoming.

1:14:20

But it seems like there's a lot of non-lethal

1:14:24

offense. Eesh. There's

1:14:26

a lot of... Tons

1:14:29

of people will die in ships

1:14:31

exploding, crashes, obviously. Yeah. Right.

1:14:35

We're going to see some of that

1:14:37

in the next episode. Also, there's moments

1:14:39

that are weirdly horrifying, like when Kanan

1:14:41

was using the Force to yank stormtroopers

1:14:43

out of cover for Wreck and just

1:14:46

like... That moment was wild. That was

1:14:48

wild. That was really... Just being

1:14:50

hauled out in the middle of the hallway through

1:14:52

the growing pile of your buddies to

1:14:55

just get killed by this old man, this wizard friend.

1:14:57

That's fucked up. So it's called

1:14:59

out in the stormtroopers. And then you get

1:15:01

things where the show will... If we

1:15:03

just don't show it, it's like it didn't happen.

1:15:05

Like, Grand Quiz are killing those two guys with

1:15:08

those two officers. Yeah. Yeah.

1:15:11

The thing that I'm reminded of here is

1:15:14

Ryan Paquin,

1:15:16

who used to

1:15:18

do a webcomic called Three Word Phrase, but

1:15:21

was also on regular... Regular

1:15:23

show is the thing that I'm remembering, but I

1:15:25

think Infinity Train also. So

1:15:28

these are like children's cartoon shows. Noted

1:15:32

once on Twitter that they could kill

1:15:34

anyone they wanted to as long as

1:15:36

they exploded. If the way

1:15:38

that they died was explosion, it would

1:15:40

always get through the internal review, basically.

1:15:44

It wasn't like an official thing. It wasn't like,

1:15:46

hey, we've said that you're allowed

1:15:49

to do this as long as they explode,

1:15:51

but you could do whatever the fuck it

1:15:53

was as long as you didn't

1:15:55

zoom in on the body, and what happened

1:15:57

was, boom, explosion's dead. The

1:16:00

up into different type of show. these

1:16:02

are you know more comedic shows but.

1:16:05

You. Know. That seems

1:16:07

like the rule here. largely in so

1:16:09

hundreds of people in a spaceship explosion

1:16:11

yeah know you can yeah see people

1:16:13

get shot if they're wearing armor and

1:16:15

like it's not sure if they're dead

1:16:18

or not. ah but we have not

1:16:20

seen. well we certainly are seeing like

1:16:22

people getting caught up by lights at

1:16:24

yeah we might have some like slashes

1:16:26

across the chest type I was everly

1:16:28

gets blaster bolts knocked back in to

1:16:30

you you know yeah but but yeah.

1:16:33

We are blue eyes, samurai. Is

1:16:37

is rebels are going to. This is what we're

1:16:39

We're We're going on. That's. What

1:16:41

I want? All that's what they call us

1:16:44

for. The blue. A similar Us. Our

1:16:47

way. New tell

1:16:49

you that I think people go so

1:16:51

fast. Yeah, Be

1:16:53

a when I. Don't think it'll

1:16:56

pass. I don't think. I

1:16:58

don't think that for the go the with the series

1:17:00

these this. Doesn't. Made a warning this for.

1:17:03

Me I have ever seen

1:17:05

us customs. ages later the

1:17:07

show as enough to these

1:17:09

ambling. And

1:17:11

that's so that the the Maybe

1:17:13

escape. And then

1:17:15

you know the final the the

1:17:17

be and is the realization that

1:17:19

seven sisters getting met recording that

1:17:21

the droid tacoma as recovery my

1:17:23

kid. And. The train location of

1:17:26

their I them. This. Is why you

1:17:28

can't ever speak regular language to a little

1:17:30

baby. Mama. When

1:17:32

you're Meyer Rebel you added to be in that we

1:17:34

would do by mode you can we say I am

1:17:36

I can't wait to you back of the secret base.

1:17:40

It's each other's names and out loud

1:17:42

on miss and you to talk about

1:17:44

weirdness. Secret Base is uses his never

1:17:47

say that word out loud. Yeah.

1:17:50

That should be the rule that I

1:17:52

could make a code word call it.

1:17:56

Does. com base to caught a few to

1:17:58

blow it is this back home the

1:18:01

main one or don't call it I mean

1:18:03

just say the spot

1:18:05

yeah anywhere anything

1:18:07

yeah but the bar name

1:18:10

of the planet that anyone

1:18:12

could type into

1:18:14

or you can't wait

1:18:16

to get you know you're gonna be everything's gonna be okay so you

1:18:18

get back to Coruscant and then we

1:18:20

go on Coruscant whoa they're on Coruscant? that

1:18:22

could have spun the ISB in a circle

1:18:24

for like five years that's right a

1:18:27

hundred percent that's way too much like

1:18:29

spy master type stuff that they would never

1:18:38

be able to so

1:18:40

yeah Dedra

1:18:42

being like I really don't think there's a cell

1:18:44

of Jedi on Coruscant and Kalis being like I

1:18:46

swear to god there is we just need to

1:18:48

keep looking god I want Dedra and

1:18:51

Kalis to meet so bad I just

1:18:54

need to know what the vibe is never

1:18:56

compare he could never compare

1:18:59

I mean the actual problem is

1:19:01

I think that Cyril would think

1:19:03

that Kalis is the coolest person

1:19:05

who's ever lived I

1:19:07

but like in a way that

1:19:10

makes him hate himself oh like

1:19:12

yeah he he he would

1:19:14

hate him this

1:19:16

is true well in real life he definitely

1:19:18

can yeah character the character

1:19:21

in the character can't know and

1:19:24

he hasn't made any sort of peace with that or found something that

1:19:26

works for him yeah

1:19:29

God he's gonna show up with facial hair it's the first

1:19:31

shot of season two honey must well that's cuz he finished

1:19:36

that's cuz he finished that season all

1:19:39

the swag a fortunate lecture look we're

1:19:41

not prepared for season two Cyril cool

1:19:44

he's gonna be locked in he

1:19:47

did lock in he did lock

1:19:49

in he might be the

1:19:51

lock person lock in he absolutely did

1:19:57

do that he he walked through that

1:19:59

crowd and locked in and he

1:20:01

grabbed her and he took her into that

1:20:03

room. I

1:20:07

recall. They had words. They

1:20:09

haven't had an exchanging of certain words.

1:20:11

Certain words were said and exchanged. They

1:20:14

were exchanged. Next year, right? We saw

1:20:16

like a year before that. We

1:20:18

still have like 40 billion hours that exist before we

1:20:20

can- No, let's find out if you might finish Rebels

1:20:22

by then. You know? That's

1:20:24

true. That's true. It'd be great to be able

1:20:26

to do that. It's great to be able to go right from Rebels into

1:20:28

Rogue One and then Andor

1:20:31

season two. Ah, that would be amazing.

1:20:33

True. So. I take back what

1:20:35

I said. Alright, so in Legacy, Ezra

1:20:38

Bridger wakes from troubled dreams to

1:20:41

find out that he's out of vision of his parents

1:20:43

that guides him back to Lothal. This

1:20:45

forces Kane and Ahara to- I expect this to

1:20:48

be much more of a gun going off, really.

1:20:50

It forces them to level with him

1:20:52

about what they learned last season about the fate of

1:20:54

his parents, which is, yep, they weren't prison. They

1:20:58

just didn't know which prison because

1:21:00

there's hundreds of prisons they could have

1:21:03

been kept in, but there's just been

1:21:05

a mass breakout that

1:21:08

has caused a massive like list of

1:21:10

escaped prisoners to leak. And Ezra

1:21:12

uses the force to find an

1:21:14

entry that calls out to him.

1:21:18

It helps that this entry has

1:21:20

a humanoid icon on it rather than the

1:21:22

many other like aliens and

1:21:24

robots that we see as other

1:21:27

Imperial prisoners. Ah. Before

1:21:31

they can go, though, to Lothal to figure

1:21:33

out what is going on with his parents,

1:21:35

Cowlas and several Star Destroyers

1:21:37

arrive to hit the Rebel base. They

1:21:41

get in a fight once again with the

1:21:43

Inquisitors barring their path.

1:21:46

Ezra gets a little heated, a little

1:21:49

dark-sided maybe, before

1:21:52

he's hauled out of the fight by

1:21:54

Kanan. And

1:21:56

then as they make their escape,

1:21:59

here in the And Taryn, the ghost, have

1:22:01

to stay back to help the rest

1:22:03

of Phoenix Squadron evade an Imperial tractor

1:22:05

beam. And Kanan

1:22:07

and Ezra head on to

1:22:09

Lothal, where it does look

1:22:12

like Minister Two is back. Bro, that's just

1:22:14

her. That's just her. That's just her. She

1:22:16

was in her bad life. She was just hanging

1:22:18

out down there. I

1:22:21

think it's her. It's her with slightly darker

1:22:23

skin and a slightly different pal's fluff. She's

1:22:26

just a recolor. She's a jazz lady, though.

1:22:29

She's

1:22:31

down there. Let her rock. Look

1:22:34

at her. Look at her. Look

1:22:36

at her. She has realized her

1:22:39

destiny to be a kooky arch lady.

1:22:41

That's the vibe. Like shows off. Like

1:22:44

local galleries. So

1:22:49

they get on the trail. They're sort

1:22:51

of guided. Did you finish your thing?

1:22:54

Did you not want to explain what happens at the end?

1:22:57

You don't wait until we get there. You didn't finish. Like

1:23:00

did you? No. Yeah. Okay.

1:23:03

Okay. But yeah, they're guided by a

1:23:05

mystic loft cat to... Oh God.

1:23:09

What's his name? Ryder Azadi. What's

1:23:12

his other name? X-10. What's

1:23:15

his other other name? Who is it?

1:23:17

Clancy Brown. Clancy fucking Brown is there. I

1:23:20

was sitting there. I was like, is that voice? That's

1:23:22

Clancy Brown. I thought it was Clancy Brown, but

1:23:24

I was like, they don't generally use voice actors.

1:23:26

They don't. But Clancy Brown is on

1:23:28

the track. It was Clancy Brown. Savage O'Praj is dead.

1:23:31

And so they can use him again here. Clancy

1:23:34

Brown, the incredible

1:23:37

character actor. Maybe

1:23:40

that's reductive. He rules, has

1:23:42

been in stuff for a long, long time. I

1:23:45

think everybody has a different fave for him, both

1:23:47

as an actor and as a voice actor. My

1:23:50

fave is that he plays Brother Justin Crow

1:23:52

in Carnival. I know a lot of people were

1:23:54

introduced to him via Highlander.

1:23:57

I know a lot of people who know him from Shawshank Redemption,

1:23:59

obviously. He was like Spongebob. He

1:24:02

was Mr. Krabs. I

1:24:04

didn't know that. He was Lex Luthor in

1:24:06

all the DC animated universe shit forever. Like

1:24:12

through the 90s and 2000s. He's just an

1:24:14

all-timer. And

1:24:18

so it's fun to have him here as a character

1:24:20

who I believe will recur. This is a new guy. So.

1:24:25

Yeah, he's freshly escaped from the Imperials. He

1:24:27

explains to Ezra that he's a new guy. He

1:24:29

explains to Ezra that Ezra's

1:24:31

broadcast, his freedom broadcast from the end

1:24:33

of last season sparked this huge riot.

1:24:37

But in the process of the escape, his

1:24:39

parents didn't make it out. And

1:24:43

that evening, Ezra returns to his

1:24:46

old tower

1:24:48

spire that he hangs

1:24:50

out at. He doesn't. Oh, it's a different

1:24:52

place? No, he's on the rock. He's on the rock. He's

1:24:55

on the rock. But the

1:24:57

force brings him to the old tower spire.

1:24:59

Yeah. And we get

1:25:01

a glimpse of the city before the

1:25:04

Empire came and transformed him. We see

1:25:06

that before all the squat dome structures

1:25:08

that the Empire built, it

1:25:10

was a city of spires, narrow

1:25:12

spires, very Wizard of Oz on

1:25:14

his way. That's

1:25:16

such a cool shot. That's such a cool reveal. So

1:25:19

cool. Yeah, I love it so

1:25:21

much. And he has a final conversation with his

1:25:23

parents that sort of mixes timelines where it is

1:25:25

what they were saying at

1:25:27

the time the Empire arrived and also as

1:25:29

a parting message from them. Yeah. He's

1:25:32

sad. Such a good episode. Even

1:25:35

during this, did you hate him, Ally? Did

1:25:38

you reject him even now in his moment of weakness? Loser,

1:25:40

loser, Ezra. Loser, El, El,

1:25:42

El, El. Hey, Ezra, it's your fault they're dead.

1:25:44

Yeah. Your shady little broadcast

1:25:47

got your parents killed. This is a good episode.

1:25:49

There was, there was, okay, I will say that there's a...

1:25:51

She didn't say no. Me?

1:25:55

There's the chase scene where it

1:25:57

looks like somebody, somebody

1:25:59

watched that... scene and was like, Oh,

1:26:01

you have to put some words in there.

1:26:03

This can't just be a silent because like

1:26:05

they just say a bunch of shit that makes

1:26:07

like it's a quips for I understand

1:26:10

this is tense. It could just be tense. I don't

1:26:12

need these quips. But besides

1:26:14

that fine episode, which is

1:26:17

the. Which is the case in the

1:26:19

cat chasing what? It's when

1:26:21

they're chasing the Loath cat through the

1:26:24

like town. Yeah. Um.

1:26:28

Ali, I'm not here for your fun cartoon time.

1:26:31

Folks, grow up, kids. I mean,

1:26:33

I really I do. I'm

1:26:35

I'm quick to call out when the show has good cartooning.

1:26:38

So you can't say that. But

1:26:40

here it was like there's I

1:26:43

can see the ad hoc

1:26:45

post production here. Um,

1:26:48

but it was great. I really love the vision. I like

1:26:51

that you can tell that they

1:26:53

invested more in the like camera

1:26:55

work in this. Oh, yeah. Like

1:26:59

just staging work in this, the like

1:27:01

scene where Hera

1:27:04

and Canaan are like showing him

1:27:06

all of the potential prisons that

1:27:08

his parents can be in. And

1:27:10

he's like in this little like closet on the

1:27:13

ghost, like surrounded by these bubbles. I was

1:27:15

like, this is the

1:27:17

show has not looked this good in a while.

1:27:19

That looks great. It was a particular shot where

1:27:21

the some phantom,

1:27:23

right? The little fighter ship

1:27:26

that like undocks from the

1:27:28

the ghost and like the camera kind of

1:27:31

follows it. That is

1:27:33

really, really cool. We've seen that sort of shot

1:27:35

in Colenor's once or twice before, where they were

1:27:37

really paying attention to ship choreography

1:27:40

and camera work. But like it really,

1:27:42

really plays well here. And all that

1:27:44

ship stuff is actually cool throughout the,

1:27:47

you know, basically they go on ahead

1:27:49

while the rest of the fleet is

1:27:51

trying to escape. Goral and

1:27:53

so there's like, you know, the kind of B

1:27:55

plot is can they get off this planet safely?

1:27:57

And that stuff looks great. throughout

1:28:00

it. Really great color work with

1:28:02

the the Garelle

1:28:04

that other planet has like these purple skies

1:28:07

that make everything kind of like bathed in

1:28:09

this light. It's great. The

1:28:13

Dream sequence was also like kind of good and just the

1:28:17

hard-to-grab logic of it. Yeah. The

1:28:19

fact that they've better than the

1:28:21

last sequence which was obviously like

1:28:23

just cuts from the

1:28:25

episode that like are gonna be out of context.

1:28:27

That's the sort of the trick that's being played

1:28:29

on Ezra. Here it is a much more like

1:28:34

this is a force vision the kind that Yoda

1:28:36

knows. Right? Where it's like it's

1:28:39

really hard to get at exactly what the hell

1:28:41

the force is telling you or what

1:28:43

it's saying. Because you know Ezra

1:28:45

has a vision of like coming into the

1:28:48

cell where his parents are being kept but

1:28:50

then he is a prisoner in the cell

1:28:52

and the lock-at releases him and then it

1:28:54

releases him that he

1:28:56

falls infinitely into

1:28:58

a pit. So

1:29:03

like that was kind of neat. That

1:29:05

was well executed. I also

1:29:08

liked that he

1:29:10

didn't become

1:29:14

a patch on child about the fact that Cain

1:29:16

and Hera kept something from him. Yeah. Which wasn't

1:29:18

much. They admit like they looked into it.

1:29:20

They had some piece of information but really not

1:29:22

much. Nothing they could tell him

1:29:24

that he didn't already suspect which was his parents

1:29:27

were in the system somewhere. Right. Well

1:29:29

specifically at the time as a reminder for people

1:29:31

who have not watched these episodes

1:29:33

and also maybe didn't watch the previous ones or

1:29:35

like the last season or who don't remember it

1:29:37

because it's been over a year or it's

1:29:40

been close to a year. In

1:29:43

the first season we get the Rodian.

1:29:45

I forget what the Rodian's name is

1:29:47

who tells him that

1:29:50

he knew his parents and offers

1:29:52

to tell him. Cebo. Cebo.

1:29:55

Right. Cebo with TS.

1:29:57

TSDEBO. And

1:30:00

Cebo offers to tell him what happened to his parents.

1:30:02

And he's like, no, I don't want to know. I

1:30:05

already know. You don't have to tell me. And it

1:30:07

assumes that they're dead. I

1:30:09

think I really love about this. And I think maybe part

1:30:11

of why he doesn't get petulant about it is

1:30:14

that Kanan and Harrow are quick to

1:30:16

be like, we tried. Cebo

1:30:18

told us this, and we didn't just sit on

1:30:21

the information. We called him favors. We've been asking

1:30:23

around. We did everything we could to try to

1:30:25

locate, confirm what he

1:30:27

said, and then to go from that to narrow it

1:30:29

down. We just

1:30:31

couldn't, which

1:30:34

is interesting. I think that

1:30:36

that kind of brings him a little

1:30:39

bit of, I

1:30:41

think it probably buys them some

1:30:44

sympathy from him and prevents him from being

1:30:46

his mightiest self, which is good. Because

1:30:48

I would not have been able to stay in this episode

1:30:50

if it was him for 15 minutes, being like, why do

1:30:52

they hide this from me? Yeah.

1:30:55

It shows a level

1:30:57

of emotional maturity that

1:30:59

I'm glad Ezra

1:31:02

is developing. And it takes seriously. Yeah,

1:31:05

you hear that, Ellie? Yeah. The

1:31:08

thing is, it takes seriously the premise

1:31:11

of a lot of the episode's conclusions this

1:31:13

season, which is like, we're a

1:31:15

family. We all love each other. We do all

1:31:17

support each other. And if that's all

1:31:19

true, then he needs to be cool about this.

1:31:21

Because if he isn't, then it suggests that he

1:31:24

doesn't have that trust with them yet. And you're

1:31:26

also just repeating. Yeah, you repeat the same

1:31:28

lesson over and over again. And

1:31:30

I think that we

1:31:34

know that Hera and

1:31:36

Canaan have Ezra's

1:31:39

best interests in mind. And they

1:31:43

weren't really holding any information

1:31:48

from Ezra that was meaningful.

1:31:51

Not necessarily it was meaningful, but

1:31:53

was actionable. There was nothing

1:31:55

with the information that they were holding

1:31:57

that could be done about. Up

1:32:01

until this like prison break Update

1:32:05

they got but um speaking

1:32:08

of hair. Uh, why is

1:32:10

his hair so shiny in this

1:32:12

episode? There's

1:32:17

14 minutes of this episode there's the shot

1:32:24

Play the tape 14 10

1:32:26

it's like straight on at him his hair looks like

1:32:28

it's made of it It

1:32:30

is the worst it's been which

1:32:33

is saying something because I already don't

1:32:35

like his big glob of hair

1:32:38

The way that they do it 90. It's so shiny They

1:32:42

put the metallic filter on they got him in

1:32:45

the dragon's arm Character creator put

1:32:47

the tattoo on his hair and put metallic at

1:32:49

100. Maybe he's trying to make work You

1:32:51

think he's trying to that you think it's a new hair product that he's been putting

1:32:53

in his hair I think he was like,

1:32:56

I'm gonna go find my parents. I gotta get it. I'm gonna

1:32:58

be a pomade guy It's

1:33:00

the low-cell water You're

1:33:08

right, you're right that makes sense actually

1:33:10

yeah Anyway,

1:33:13

thank you for hearing me Yeah,

1:33:17

we get early stuff in

1:33:19

this episode he does look like something's

1:33:21

living on his head it's weird man

1:33:23

It's giving time. He has all this

1:33:26

like animal force connectivity stuff. Maybe he's

1:33:28

got some sort of animal like living

1:33:30

in there No, no

1:33:32

ratatouille situation Maybe

1:33:37

this is true for all the low-cell people. We just haven't

1:33:39

put it together yet. There's a human They

1:33:42

they're hiding there with their hair Parasites

1:33:45

only people see the tentacle things. That's

1:33:47

right, and he's like I'm out here and

1:33:49

I'm proud of my hair tentacles We're

1:33:52

just cool, but he should tell us about it. I want

1:33:54

to know Why is it

1:33:56

all metallic? Is it because you need in high

1:33:58

iron content like what's called? What's going on?

1:34:01

Anyway, there

1:34:04

is one moment where he gets kind of patchy and like

1:34:06

you said, Rob, there are moments where he's angry. He's

1:34:09

looking for his helmet. He does come across like a

1:34:11

little boy then when he's like, where's my helmet? I

1:34:13

need my helmet to go do this. And they say,

1:34:15

good. Well, we're going to go with

1:34:17

you here. And

1:34:19

he's like, oh, right. OK, yeah, sure. But he

1:34:21

does. You know, it's one correction to me. I

1:34:23

don't you just found out that your parents are

1:34:26

alive and are in prison. You're allowed to be

1:34:28

a little bit of a baby about it. But

1:34:30

he give him the one correction. He corrects himself.

1:34:32

It's not so bad. So

1:34:35

I'm so willing to extend it. But then,

1:34:37

yes, during the fight off of Garelle, this

1:34:40

is one of the moments that he

1:34:42

goes absolutely ham and just like carves

1:34:44

through the bad real fast. Right. Like

1:34:46

he's like they get cornered.

1:34:49

By callous and much stormtroopers. Yep.

1:34:52

And they're a crossfire. Yep. They don't

1:34:54

really plan to get out. And

1:34:57

he just bum rushes everyone,

1:34:59

kicks all their asses, flings callous

1:35:01

like ragdoll. It's like and and came

1:35:04

as that moment of like, hey, hey,

1:35:06

at work. Yeah, the visitors come

1:35:10

and he's like heat check. Yeah,

1:35:12

he's going to like reserve her rage mode. And

1:35:14

it's clear they're just like they're happy to let

1:35:17

him come because they will be able to handle

1:35:19

this. Like this is he's just about to. But

1:35:22

he's like the the red mist

1:35:24

has descended. Yeah. And Canaan bails

1:35:26

him out by shooting the

1:35:29

door. And it does the Star Wars thing of

1:35:31

you shoot a door lock and it slams shut.

1:35:33

And, you know, he's cut off. But

1:35:35

the other thing is this. The only way he

1:35:37

wins that fight is if he goes his full

1:35:39

dark side. Right. That's the thing hanging in the

1:35:41

back in this fight is like he's

1:35:44

barely in control of himself. Right. Which remember, there

1:35:46

was a little bit of that in the first

1:35:48

season where it was he

1:35:50

had to control the animals to beat

1:35:52

the Inquisitor to escape the Inquisitor that

1:35:54

one time. Remember that? It was

1:35:57

kind of goofy. But like the idea was that he was

1:35:59

like. Mind controlling the big

1:36:01

creature but the creature was kind of dark-sided

1:36:03

and kind of gotten to him a little

1:36:05

bit Which I think is a much less

1:36:07

interesting version of some of this stuff It's

1:36:09

like the opposite in many ways of them

1:36:11

the more subtle version of like oh his

1:36:13

fight Choreography has gotten angrier and more passionate,

1:36:16

you know So

1:36:18

I'm glad they're going this way instead of that way

1:36:20

for now at least. I'm sure

1:36:22

we're not done with the Ezra can connect

1:36:24

to animals Not

1:36:26

least of all because in the previous

1:36:28

episode Keenan calls out the Everest powers

1:36:30

connecting to people and things. Yeah Connecting

1:36:34

to things, you know kid just connect to the

1:36:36

baby and make it stop crying. It's it's something

1:36:38

that you're calm Anyway

1:36:45

Also, I did appreciate before the

1:36:47

ambush started this this this episode

1:36:49

this week's Sabine

1:36:52

is given something due for a second moment

1:36:55

is Her realizing

1:36:57

like wait, there's no Imperials around

1:37:00

that's weird That's because the

1:37:02

Empire always pulls back for a major

1:37:04

operation Thanks Sabine Sabine

1:37:09

has huge like player who isn't at every

1:37:11

session but shows up and the GM is

1:37:14

like Actually, you know, let's

1:37:16

mean you could roll Roll Imperial knowledge

1:37:18

just to see if you know anything about this

1:37:20

that way I can keep you involved at the

1:37:22

table Because you never hear and sometimes you're on

1:37:24

your phone when you're here, but I want to

1:37:26

keep you involved. Oh Hey,

1:37:29

yeah, so, you know that like a standard

1:37:31

Imperial procedure to like pull back the forces

1:37:33

before a major operation. Yeah, okay,

1:37:36

so guys Party

1:37:39

or do I you just tell the party

1:37:41

no, go ahead tell the party Fuck

1:37:45

it. I'll drink Now

1:37:47

there is the other version of this story,

1:37:49

which is it could be the player who

1:37:52

is constantly ignored by the GM who is

1:37:54

like What can I please roll Imperial intelligence

1:37:57

to know this? Fine

1:37:59

go ahead and roll it you

1:38:01

know that you should have created a

1:38:03

character whose whole deal was art bombs

1:38:11

I had to create

1:38:13

a fucking feet that doesn't exist in

1:38:15

the fucking game I'm

1:38:21

an art bombs master okay great yeah so what

1:38:23

bonuses do you want for that yeah I

1:38:29

know funny they're doing her dirty

1:38:31

this season it's bad I

1:38:37

know you're off on a

1:38:40

you star on a you star on

1:38:42

this episode this is it's the Sabine

1:38:44

show well we're not doing

1:38:46

that again let us learn like at least here

1:38:48

it like they're not doing great by Hera this

1:38:50

season yet so far either but you

1:38:54

at least get her in these key moments

1:38:56

here right and I can say something that's

1:38:58

like unique about her in any one of

1:39:00

these episodes there's a moment here in fact

1:39:02

in this episode where Ezra says thanks Hera

1:39:04

and not thanks you to about about

1:39:07

Hera and Canaan because which

1:39:10

I thought was really fascinating is like it's

1:39:12

him reading the situation deciding you know Hera

1:39:15

is the one who put in the work

1:39:17

here here is the one who brought this

1:39:19

to me finally you know not it's not

1:39:21

a disappear it's not like well thanks Hera

1:39:23

you know or like thanks Hera but not

1:39:25

you Canaan it's not that at all it's

1:39:27

just him like cutting through the moment and

1:39:29

being okay I owe Hera extra thanks in

1:39:31

this moment right yeah and she has you

1:39:33

know she's she's she's Phoenix leader that keeps

1:39:35

showing up she has an ongoing plot line

1:39:37

with that stuff now yeah

1:39:39

he's doing a lot it is when I was

1:39:44

Imperial school they showed us

1:39:46

their awesome weapons platforms well

1:39:49

I one of the I don't think we're

1:39:51

gonna go to the Loni's on today we

1:39:53

have some time illness and they weren't that

1:39:56

exciting anyway I you know I guess I'll

1:39:58

say one cute thing one

1:40:00

Dave thing, there was a whole section on

1:40:02

Ahsoka coming back in the previous episode and

1:40:05

Dave hit his classic Dave-ism where he was

1:40:07

like, as far as I'm concerned, the whole

1:40:09

episode could have been 21 minutes of lightsaber

1:40:11

duel. That's what I wanted, which is classic

1:40:14

Dave. And he also point was like, there's

1:40:16

going to be so much of other sword

1:40:18

fights later this season, which made me go,

1:40:20

you're getting it. You're getting the George Lucas

1:40:22

and you didn't say lightsaber duels. You said

1:40:24

sword fights. That's right. That's what they are.

1:40:26

Don't forget it. But

1:40:29

in one of the, one of the people who asked Pablo

1:40:31

a question during this run in Rebels Recon, it

1:40:33

was like, wait a second. Sabine

1:40:36

is 15 now or whatever,

1:40:40

16 now. You, you have to

1:40:42

be, no, it is. She's 16 now. You would

1:40:44

be 15 to go into the Imperial Academy. So

1:40:47

when was she a bounty hunter?

1:40:50

Doesn't add up. And Pablo was

1:40:52

like, well, look at, look at

1:40:54

how cool Sabine is. Sabine is so cool. They probably

1:40:56

made an exception for her at the Imperial Academy and

1:40:58

got her in the 13. You can't even say she

1:41:00

lied. You can't be like, we're going to learn about her

1:41:02

manal in backstory. Maybe she lied

1:41:05

on her floor. She straight up says that

1:41:07

she was such a prodigy

1:41:10

that she got in younger. Boo.

1:41:13

She's an afterthought. So

1:41:16

bad. Well, I keep hearing that it

1:41:18

ends up becoming the Sabine Ren show

1:41:20

or that she ends up being like

1:41:22

the secondary protagonist. I'm not feeling it.

1:41:25

I'm not stoked for that. It's

1:41:27

not happening. It

1:41:30

hasn't started yet. Finally, Star Wars

1:41:32

with some ill thought out Mandalorian

1:41:35

character. Lord.

1:41:38

If, if I

1:41:41

could allow myself another bad opinion while I'm

1:41:43

already hanging on Ezra, there was when

1:41:45

he was approaching, uh, Callus, I

1:41:47

was like, Callus, please don't take this

1:41:49

L. Please. Funny.

1:41:55

I mean, you know, it makes sense that

1:41:57

he did. It was a great moment that

1:41:59

he did. But I'm still pretty freak out

1:42:01

to be cool in the end At

1:42:04

least the it wasn't like us Within

1:42:07

too goofy like he pushed him in a

1:42:10

way that like was a little bit more

1:42:12

tough Like

1:42:18

anchor or anvil on the head

1:42:20

you're right. Yeah, he's a wily coyote,

1:42:22

you know, yeah, exactly It was like

1:42:25

a little bit more physical than that.

1:42:27

Well, I do think there's a bit of The

1:42:30

distance between cows and Cyril carne is maybe

1:42:32

not as great as I initially Callous

1:42:38

seems like he's a dangerous opponent

1:42:41

and now it kind of just seems like He's

1:42:45

a mid-level Are

1:42:52

giving him shit for Respecting the rebels too

1:42:54

much or if we talked about last time

1:42:56

we talked about him referring to like the

1:42:58

rebel admiral or whatever Instead

1:43:02

of just calling them pirates or bandits or

1:43:04

whatever, right? And

1:43:06

and here there's a bit where where he

1:43:09

describes them as being like Clever

1:43:12

right because what they're doing on ghrel is

1:43:14

they're hiding their ships across space center space

1:43:16

ports basically They're not all in one place

1:43:19

which would make them easy to see they're

1:43:21

spread out across the planet space ports Or

1:43:24

across the city space ports or whatever and

1:43:26

the seven sisters like you respect

1:43:28

them Even though they

1:43:30

represent your constant failure and his

1:43:32

comeback is perhaps inquisitor We can

1:43:34

achieve together what we have not

1:43:36

apart because you are also stacking

1:43:38

elves over there You are not

1:43:40

free from sin the way Admiral

1:43:42

Constantine speaks to fifth brother Yeah,

1:43:45

it's just like naked contempt. Yeah, and like no

1:43:47

fear. This is not like ooh, then Quizner might

1:43:49

lose a shit on me this is like You

1:43:53

are trash. It is. It's great like constantly

1:43:55

constantly basically just like sort of dryly observes

1:43:57

He just he looks forward to the day

1:44:00

inquisitors find the previous results. I kind

1:44:02

of wish that Constantine was Wolf Yalaran

1:44:04

because I know he's out there and

1:44:06

I want Wolf Yalaran who you all

1:44:08

might remember as the Admiral from Kohn

1:44:10

Wars who is like

1:44:12

Obi-Wan and Anakin. He pops up

1:44:14

in the in the ISB. Right,

1:44:17

he pops up in the ISB and

1:44:19

he eventually is on the Death

1:44:22

Star on those ships. You're right I guess that's the

1:44:24

thing he ends up being an ISB guy not an

1:44:26

Admiral during this era so maybe that's why he hasn't

1:44:28

shown up but I would love for him to show

1:44:30

up in a role like this because the

1:44:32

idea of like our old clone wars Admiral

1:44:34

turns out to be one of these

1:44:37

guys is true and I want to see

1:44:40

it more you know and I

1:44:42

don't want to just see what Tarkin you

1:44:44

know Tarkin sucks Tarkin always sucks but we

1:44:46

like Yalaran and I want it like that's

1:44:49

part of the thing that we don't get

1:44:51

from clones because they're chipped

1:44:53

but we could get from officers the officers

1:44:56

were not chipped Wolf Yalaran did not go

1:44:58

through the clone surgery to get the the

1:45:00

chip in his head to make him order

1:45:02

56 the Emperor said

1:45:05

I'll order 66 and he was like damn

1:45:07

true right like he can't

1:45:09

have anybody's back as far as I know maybe maybe that

1:45:11

maybe we'll learn some of this in bad batch you know

1:45:13

what I mean but which I'm hyped on I'm hyped to

1:45:16

get to bad batch people are talking to talk about bad

1:45:18

batch so also

1:45:20

that's a good way to text test

1:45:22

like the the Rex reaction

1:45:24

to that without going straight to Anakin

1:45:27

you're right like I would

1:45:29

love to see how he would respond to

1:45:31

yeah finding out about that yeah

1:45:34

he must know right he must know

1:45:37

that all a lot of these admirals

1:45:39

and ISB guys are ex Republic

1:45:42

Army right I want

1:45:44

to hear him talk about it come on show me

1:45:47

yeah I don't know he doesn't have like the shame

1:45:49

about it though right like when he's like me

1:45:52

and Cody invented these codes you're right like

1:45:54

I don't think that he understands the yeah

1:45:57

where's Cody by the way what happened

1:45:59

Where the fuck is Cody? Huh? Alright.

1:46:03

I would love to know. Last we saw

1:46:05

Cody was Revenge of the Sith shooting at

1:46:08

at at or at

1:46:10

Obi-Wan. His big animal friend. And

1:46:12

his big animal friend. Yeah.

1:46:15

So, I don't know. Well.

1:46:20

This game sequence is great. You know, the

1:46:23

space battle. The one thing, I

1:46:25

didn't remember, did the Phantom always have

1:46:27

a dorsal gun that Chopper sat in?

1:46:30

It's always had, it's all, I think so. I don't

1:46:32

know if Chopper always sits in it. Chopper may have

1:46:35

earned that right after going Scarface

1:46:37

with the dual wheel a

1:46:39

few episodes ago. I don't know. Um. But

1:46:41

I think it, oh no, you're right. You mean the

1:46:43

Phantom, the little ship. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

1:46:49

It definitely looks like a little turret though, right? Yeah.

1:46:51

It does look like that. Yeah. I've

1:46:53

never noticed that before. Maybe it has.

1:46:55

I know. It's a good sequence. And again, space

1:46:58

ships just look so fucking good in this. The

1:47:00

three star destroyers coming in low over the city

1:47:02

with the searchlights. Yeah, with the searchlights down. God,

1:47:04

it's awesome. Yeah. So good. Yeah. Again, this is

1:47:06

the stuff that's just going to get me as

1:47:08

like a kid who grew up with this stuff.

1:47:10

This era of Star Wars, it being my

1:47:13

favorite thing as a kid. You

1:47:15

know, I've talked a lot about, about that

1:47:18

specific disappointment hitting at Return

1:47:21

or Rise of Skywalker being like, oh,

1:47:23

I guess I'm closing the door on my Star Wars love

1:47:25

now because they, they scuffed the landing

1:47:27

so bad that I, there

1:47:31

are shots here that give me the feeling

1:47:33

of like a type of fandom that is

1:47:35

fairly rare for me that

1:47:37

like gets me excited in this way.

1:47:39

And those story destroyers showing up like

1:47:42

hit that note for me in a

1:47:44

way that's like so rare that, that

1:47:46

just reflects it like they're playing with

1:47:49

the toolbox and the toy box in

1:47:51

a really successful way. You

1:47:53

know, it's, it doesn't need to

1:47:55

mean anything for it to be well-made. And in this

1:47:57

case, it, you know, not that it doesn't mean anything,

1:47:59

right? It's a great show of this imperial

1:48:01

power and it's like it's communicating something about who

1:48:03

the villains are blah blah blah blah But

1:48:06

mostly like it's just a well composed You

1:48:09

know cinematography with Star Wars

1:48:11

stuff and and I'm happy to see

1:48:13

it every time so well and we

1:48:15

get like a little taste of like

1:48:18

The violence of this type of combat like when

1:48:20

they shoot up that transport We see it like

1:48:22

go burning down and we cut to the view

1:48:24

from the Star Destroyer Bridge Where

1:48:27

it's just this tiny little like comet streaking

1:48:29

toward the city. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just

1:48:31

it's a great sense of scale The

1:48:34

abstraction of all this the

1:48:37

level like an Admiral Constantine operates out. Yeah

1:48:40

And we do get another moment

1:48:42

sort of reconfirming what the show's been driving towards

1:48:44

a lot this season, which is that To

1:48:48

agree it's almost like it is as we point out Sabine

1:48:50

it is maybe a structural issue that's cropping

1:48:52

up with the show But like Sabine

1:48:54

and Hera are kind of on

1:48:56

a different path than

1:48:58

Ezra and Canaan like Their

1:49:01

responsibilities lie with Phoenix squadron their responsibilities lie

1:49:03

with the with the rebels They

1:49:06

go off to assist the rebel escape and then

1:49:08

they rejoin the fleet once it means like where

1:49:10

are we going? It's not even a question. They're

1:49:12

gonna go be with the rebels Canaan

1:49:14

and Ezra are out on their own on

1:49:17

Jedi business Yeah, and the show

1:49:19

right now has cared more about

1:49:21

Jedi business probably since the series

1:49:23

Right. Well, that's the franchise cares about

1:49:26

Jedi business, right? I think

1:49:28

at its best does a good job of balancing that it's

1:49:30

why Empire Strikes Back is so good right is like half

1:49:33

of that movie is Jedi business the other half is

1:49:36

Asteroids stuff is close is is

1:49:38

Cloud City and all that stuff

1:49:41

rocks. So, you know The

1:49:43

balance can be really off sometimes You

1:49:46

know I will say I don't think

1:49:48

that Sabine and Hera are getting the

1:49:50

love that Han Solo and Leia

1:49:53

get in the original trilogy, you know We'll

1:49:56

see no I mean changes as the show continues, but

1:49:59

so much of their deal is

1:50:01

about their role as it

1:50:03

relates to the rebellion and

1:50:05

like, oh, it kind of always

1:50:08

being in service of the

1:50:12

rebel movement of like Phoenix

1:50:14

Squadron, whereas Canaan

1:50:17

and Ezra

1:50:19

seem to be on a journey

1:50:21

as it like their journeys about

1:50:23

themselves and their relationship

1:50:26

to their

1:50:29

kind of own makings and the

1:50:31

force and the cetera. It's

1:50:35

just such a more individual, like they're

1:50:37

a part of the rebellion, of course,

1:50:39

but it's so much more, it's so

1:50:44

much more like individualized with

1:50:46

them, whereas with Hera and

1:50:48

Sabine and even like Zeb

1:50:50

and Chopper, like it's about

1:50:52

kind of them and the

1:50:55

group and the

1:50:57

rebels that they serve. Yeah. So

1:51:00

it's interesting because like Canaan is

1:51:02

resistant to it. And

1:51:05

in a way, he takes Ezra out

1:51:08

because, you know, Ezra is

1:51:11

following in his footsteps. So

1:51:13

I wonder if there will ever be any tension there where

1:51:15

it's like, not Hera and

1:51:17

Sabine making that decision, it's Ezra

1:51:19

and Canaan needing to make

1:51:21

that decision and like, which way they

1:51:23

will go. Right. Like Yoda telling

1:51:25

Luke to stay on Dagobah and him being like, no, I

1:51:27

need to go help my friend. Right.

1:51:30

Right. So when Canaan and Ezra

1:51:33

get to Dagobah and meet up with Yoda, Yoda can

1:51:35

do the same thing. Which is definitely going to happen.

1:51:37

Which is definitely going to happen. Don't tell anyone who

1:51:39

we're here. We have to see, I promise you. We're

1:51:42

going to see Yoda. We're going to see Yoda. And

1:51:45

when it happens, I'm going to punch a hole in

1:51:47

my TV. We

1:51:50

are going to see Yoda this season. I

1:51:52

feel it in my heart. Wow, this season.

1:51:54

They are not going to go one season

1:51:56

without Yoda. The force is speaking to you.

1:51:58

That's right. And I

1:52:00

believe you one hundred percent the

1:52:02

visionary. Easier or yoda as a

1:52:04

big you as in a row

1:52:06

yeah I don't want I can

1:52:09

go a seat or.yada yada yada

1:52:11

yada had with unhealthy am I

1:52:13

do Those guys. And

1:52:15

I am. I prefer shut up at the

1:52:17

lightsaber work. A know and we were

1:52:19

in the allowing They were there are like

1:52:22

karma and. Be more, not

1:52:24

even gentle Yoga lightsaber works out.

1:52:26

There was some archaeologists motherfucker who

1:52:29

was like a form. Loaded.

1:52:32

On cameo. Noticed

1:52:34

about one hundred percent imperial credits

1:52:36

or drop you a thirty second

1:52:38

messes. I

1:52:41

hate to sizer states.

1:52:43

A fucking size or their

1:52:45

voice it liar. And the hot. And

1:52:50

of the valid same themselves

1:52:52

you know on blueberry only

1:52:55

I am who massage or

1:52:57

with this. I hope they

1:52:59

are. When. I

1:53:02

am the only ones since he was a

1:53:04

Quincy's nameless, faceless, All and league. April

1:53:06

second or whatever and I saw one. Posts

1:53:08

are one of the. Galaxy, that's the that

1:53:10

was like. I really appreciate that

1:53:12

zoo from yesterday because it's so sick of

1:53:15

people. Supposed slew to do. Of

1:53:18

with I assume that in the

1:53:20

neighborhood are fools yoga Somebody be

1:53:22

like the other bringing a bag

1:53:24

sam. Would. Suck you.

1:53:28

Know said that's a bad joke. Is

1:53:31

it was real? we would the booking

1:53:33

our flights. Right now we

1:53:35

would be I might another forth from

1:53:37

a fire. Be outlawed

1:53:39

Smoking dirt. It's of the service have a

1:53:42

mostly I would oppose be like Darwin's can be

1:53:44

in the someone was this entire trip with has

1:53:46

if if if if if if if they should

1:53:48

bring a bath for just. To. Someone

1:53:50

to assist. I'm familiar with a business

1:53:53

for the Amc. A crew. Us

1:53:55

was sooo can. Zoom

1:53:57

In com. Smooth. didn't

1:54:00

Um, yeah. Neil Patrick Harris is banned.

1:54:05

Uh, yeah, anybody we were cool with can come.

1:54:08

We are some other friends. Should we

1:54:10

be looking out to see if, like,

1:54:12

the other Star Cruiser people are,

1:54:14

like, planning their own meetup events?

1:54:17

They are and do and have, right?

1:54:20

Look, here from, from, uh, Hunting Me,

1:54:22

West Virginia, some people met

1:54:25

up and stacked the Saja Rocks. No.

1:54:28

No. You'll miss me with that.

1:54:30

I'm not going to West Virginia to stack Saja

1:54:32

Rocks. No, you don't like this? You don't like

1:54:34

the Saja Rocks? I'm not doing that. Oh, no.

1:54:37

Oh, no. This, this. Anyway.

1:54:40

This is very funny. You know? Anyhow.

1:54:43

This is very funny. This is a very funny

1:54:45

poster. People, it meant a lot

1:54:47

to people. I

1:54:50

wouldn't know what that's like, but, you know. I

1:54:53

would go back and drink some drinks. Wait a

1:54:55

second. March 25th. Guests

1:54:57

looking to get a sip of the

1:54:59

Star Cruiser will soon find drinks from

1:55:01

the shuttered experience at Disneyland

1:55:03

for a limited time. As announced today by

1:55:06

Disneyland, a number of drinks from the Star

1:55:08

Wars Galactic Star Cruiser will make their Disney

1:55:10

Parks debut at August Cantina during the Season

1:55:12

of the Forest event from April 5th through

1:55:14

June 2nd. I have to tell you

1:55:17

guys something. Are you going in today?

1:55:19

Is that where you're going? What are you doing? I'm

1:55:22

not going today, but I'm going on April.

1:55:26

Don't send a day. You're going in April.

1:55:28

I am going in April. I just

1:55:30

thought that thought. I'm going

1:55:32

in April to the Disney

1:55:36

After Dark Star Wars night. Yes.

1:55:40

Why didn't you tell us about this? How

1:55:43

did you tell us about this thing? You guys

1:55:46

want to come? Last

1:55:49

year I was on Disneyland on the day

1:55:51

of because I wanted to... I

1:55:53

like made the board. Right. I didn't

1:55:55

have tickets to the Star Wars night. So like

1:55:57

I was there at like five when those people...

1:56:00

people started showing up, but I was like, ooh. Oh,

1:56:02

Disney had only two. Yeah,

1:56:04

it's only at Disneyland. What? Oh,

1:56:07

I bet it looks so sick. That's literally the thing I said

1:56:09

was, I bet it would be so sick at night. There's

1:56:12

a special like

1:56:14

Spire fireworks show.

1:56:18

Oh, yeah, they announced that they're doing that this

1:56:20

year. Yeah. I don't think I can

1:56:22

make it. The timing sucks so bad. The new

1:56:24

Star Tours, the new Star Tours. Oh,

1:56:26

that's right. The adventures are going

1:56:29

to be in rotation. Sure.

1:56:31

You can go see the Andor Ahsoka stuff,

1:56:34

right? Yeah, Andor Ahsoka and Mandalorian. I

1:56:37

do have tons of flight credits from

1:56:39

very canceled trips from the

1:56:41

end of last year. It's so much cheaper

1:56:43

to fly to Los Angeles and stay somewhere

1:56:45

and go for a day to Disney

1:56:48

than to like do a big Disney vacation, which

1:56:50

we all learned last year. This

1:56:53

is, you know, the ticket prices of this are

1:56:55

expensive. It's $159, which sucks. That's

1:56:58

way better than what we've gotten. Not $5,000.

1:57:03

It was so nightmarish last year.

1:57:05

It was ridiculous. This is totally reasonable. It

1:57:07

was not reasonable, but it's a thing you could save

1:57:09

up for and make that a thing that you want

1:57:11

to do. I totally get it. However.

1:57:14

I think I've

1:57:17

never done one of the After Dark nights.

1:57:21

My understanding is that it's a lot

1:57:23

of photo opportunities. That makes sense. I'm

1:57:25

not like, I'm not going to wait

1:57:28

in line for hours to

1:57:30

like take a photo. I'm just

1:57:32

not, I will just walk by and take

1:57:34

a photo of the thing

1:57:37

and keep walking. So,

1:57:39

but it should be- But

1:57:41

you should get one of these drinks. Yeah,

1:57:44

they do like- Oh, I will- You flip the

1:57:46

snacks and merch and stuff. My plan is to

1:57:48

stay overnight at

1:57:50

Disney so that, and then probably go back to

1:57:52

Disney the next day, just for fun. You

1:57:55

and your hangover. It doesn't come with a full day. Yeah.

1:57:58

It doesn't come with a full day ticket. Only- Like an

1:58:00

after 3 p.m. Ticket. Yeah, I see I

1:58:02

see Yeah,

1:58:05

make them So yeah, I'm

1:58:08

doing that. I'm going I'm Reliving

1:58:10

the dream Do

1:58:15

you get the one nice Dylan it's not on

1:58:17

the list I looked for it. Oh, yeah, what's

1:58:19

what is the Daggo

1:58:21

bus Swamp water session

1:58:27

The fiery Mustafarian which I think someone

1:58:29

got oh You

1:58:32

got that the lava syrup one. Yeah,

1:58:34

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Silver Sea Martini

1:58:37

Which I just don't not like a martini to me at

1:58:39

all This is I'm gonna read this out

1:58:41

loud and this is like the most this is what it was

1:58:44

like to get drinks at Disney Hendrix

1:58:46

Jen minute made lemonade Ginger

1:58:49

syrup honey and mint syrup topped

1:58:51

with a shimmery butterfly pea flower tea,

1:58:53

which I bet tastes like

1:58:55

sugar It's very funny

1:58:57

to do Using and just

1:59:00

putting minute made Lemonade

1:59:04

right after is so funny is wild

1:59:07

Chandrillion chalice Hendrix Jen minute made lemonade.

1:59:09

This is the same drink. Oh But

1:59:12

it's you know wine. It's in a souvenir wine

1:59:15

glass. That's right And

1:59:17

then and then the Mustafarian but in

1:59:19

a chandelion orb glass where you keep

1:59:21

that's what you got So

1:59:26

these are there's not that many session

1:59:34

Oga the session is minute made wild

1:59:37

strawberry flavor Yogurt filled boba

1:59:40

and strawberry grape candy pebbles

1:59:42

with a bursting dried fruit mixture I feel

1:59:45

like we're learning a lot of None

1:59:48

of my obsession

1:59:53

One minute made lemonade

1:59:55

strawberry flavor yogurt filled

1:59:57

boba I

2:00:00

love that. I love the yogurt filled boba so

2:00:02

whimsical That's weird

2:00:05

every time I thought of an but I don't

2:00:07

know. Yeah, I don't it's just it's just the

2:00:09

thing I it's all too Too

2:00:12

much for me generally speaking. Yeah,

2:00:14

I'll say the the the

2:00:16

one that smacks is the fuzzy Tom

2:00:18

Tom Which has like that? It

2:00:22

has like that peppercorn foam on it. So

2:00:24

make your lips numb while you drink it

2:00:26

that sure that that was good And

2:00:29

the Jedi mind trick is all right. Yeah So

2:00:33

everything I like in this episode I find kind of funny As

2:00:37

Kane and Ezra flying off to low

2:00:40

fall and Cairns like

2:00:42

no, I don't understand what you're going through Ezra You

2:00:45

know my master, you know, I didn't

2:00:48

have I didn't know my parents I just had

2:00:50

my master but as he's doing that line reading

2:00:52

I swear to God he's doing Vin Diesel in

2:00:56

fast and the furious I

2:00:58

swear to God it's like the same. Well, I

2:01:01

was like He doesn't

2:01:03

usually drop into this lower register. I know

2:01:05

it's like a lumber talk, but also it's

2:01:07

so much Dums

2:01:12

Like telling of the story of his father's

2:01:14

death in the first

2:01:16

movie like it's getting kind of rumbly and

2:01:18

choked up Mmm, it's

2:01:20

very funny. I did not pick that up, but I can

2:01:22

I can imagine it And

2:01:25

that's like, you know Neither

2:01:28

did any of the other Jedi my man. That's

2:01:30

the Jedi Jedi didn't get to know

2:01:32

their parents. Yeah, that's true Perhaps

2:01:36

there's something wrong with that That's part of the thing that I'd love to

2:01:38

see the show get to too is like I

2:01:40

want to hear Canaan and Ahsoka talk about

2:01:42

The Jedi at some point, you know, yeah

2:01:46

I think that there is something, you know, you

2:01:48

have sort of the weak Structure we've

2:01:51

talked about it. I don't want to just

2:01:53

hit those notes again but I think we didn't say

2:01:55

explicitly was like part of Part

2:01:57

of what the arc structure of Clone Wars

2:01:59

got us was the ability

2:02:01

for an arc

2:02:04

to have up and down beats in

2:02:06

terms of action content versus

2:02:09

tension content and arguments and

2:02:11

drama. Every

2:02:13

Clone Wars episode probably had a lightsaber drawn at

2:02:16

some point or a droid get into some hijinks

2:02:18

or something. But the fact that

2:02:20

you could do three episodes on a single

2:02:22

topic, even

2:02:24

though they were often self-contained, meant that you

2:02:27

could have the one that was like the

2:02:29

war episode and then a different one that

2:02:31

was like two characters lost

2:02:34

behind enemy lines or trapped in

2:02:36

a small space and like arguing

2:02:38

for 21 minutes or for 18 of

2:02:41

21 minutes and then they get saved in the final three minutes,

2:02:43

right? And

2:02:45

I think we it feels like we lose

2:02:47

that here a little bit because every episode

2:02:49

so far has felt like it needs a

2:02:52

six minute action beat somewhere in

2:02:55

the start or the end, if not multiple times

2:02:57

throughout. And it's not like

2:02:59

it's funny because like they're both cartoons for children. But

2:03:03

you can kind of feel a shift in. That's

2:03:06

why I'm kind of putting it up to the structure of

2:03:08

arcs versus one offs

2:03:11

is that like the arcs would open that

2:03:13

up. But I don't know.

2:03:15

I just love to see a few more quieter episodes. Certain

2:03:17

beats have to happen in the 23

2:03:19

minute run time that like Clone Wars, sometimes for ill

2:03:22

would just be like, what if we don't have a

2:03:24

beat where you think a beat should be and that

2:03:26

didn't always pan out. And it didn't always pan out,

2:03:28

but you at least have that feeling of like, I

2:03:31

think we talked about this with Clone Wars before that,

2:03:33

you know, if you watch, I would talk about OG

2:03:35

Gundam again here, like every Gundam episode had

2:03:37

a fight in it because they were trying to move

2:03:39

product. They're trying to sell

2:03:41

toys of the Gundam. And this was

2:03:44

before Gunpla, this was before models blew up

2:03:46

and it became even more central. This was

2:03:48

just like regular ass toys. But you needed

2:03:50

that right. That was part of the scheme

2:03:52

was we're going to put fights in every

2:03:54

episode because we are trying to move merchandise

2:03:56

and children's action shows generally have that as

2:03:58

as like. Thing that you can count on

2:04:00

every episode of it is gonna have someone

2:04:02

pull out the sword or the gun or

2:04:04

whatever it is I don't you

2:04:06

know, I know what we're here for we're

2:04:08

here for this kind of sci-fi genre action-adventure

2:04:10

show I'm not complaining about it

2:04:12

in general But I do think that

2:04:15

the structure of arcs the lack thereof

2:04:17

now means we get it every fucking

2:04:19

time And it can

2:04:21

be a little tiring Yeah,

2:04:24

I kind of a nerd beats like the chase through

2:04:26

right Lothal again, which like having

2:04:29

them revisit the city and seeing like the devastation that's

2:04:31

been inflicted since they went there and the fact that

2:04:33

like Kind of a fit

2:04:35

of peak the Imperial level his family home

2:04:39

Like all that's cool and then it's

2:04:42

oh that that little fuzzy friend

2:04:44

just scampered away with our with our lead

2:04:48

It is funny that you know, no Cain

2:04:50

and I can't track the lock cat using the

2:04:52

force. I put a tracker on him That's a

2:04:54

good bit that is that is funny especially the

2:04:56

way the way it came is like damn we

2:04:58

have a time master here But

2:05:06

Yeah, the chase the chase is kind of

2:05:08

dull but it does get us to where

2:05:10

we want to go Which is as rotating

2:05:12

that leap of faith as

2:05:14

they're being held at bay by the sniper and

2:05:16

just saying I'm His

2:05:20

parents names the Bridgers as a

2:05:22

frame and Mirror

2:05:24

mirror mirror I

2:05:27

forget Sorry Yeah

2:05:33

Yeah, and then you're that it's Clancy Brown

2:05:36

Explaining that that he did know them

2:05:39

Funny detail here. This guy's the ex-governor.

2:05:42

Yeah, he was the reporter of

2:05:44

the Bridgers. Yeah maybe

2:05:46

not enough I Mean

2:05:49

he got put in jail too. Yeah, he was the

2:05:52

last governor of the

2:05:54

place before the Empire brought the

2:05:56

hammer down I guess yeah Okay

2:06:00

But yeah, they talk

2:06:02

about how we didn't see a

2:06:04

body though is what I'm saying. I mean that is

2:06:06

true That is true. I

2:06:08

had the same thought of like oh Boy,

2:06:11

are they gonna really secretly be alive out there? We

2:06:13

never saw the body. This guy just told us this

2:06:15

can we trust this guy? Is

2:06:17

this gonna be what the rest of the show is etc. I Like

2:06:21

that they're dead 10

2:06:23

I would like this to just be over. Do you

2:06:26

know what I mean? Yeah, uh-huh I do know I

2:06:28

would like the rest of the series to be just

2:06:30

like oh his parents are dead and he's That's

2:06:33

fine. Like that's part of who that's part of who he is,

2:06:35

but it's not like we need We

2:06:39

don't that miss that doesn't need

2:06:41

to be a motivating. We've like

2:06:43

it's just there. No, I'm glad

2:06:46

Sorry to those people. I'm glad they're dead They

2:06:51

were alive I'd been happy with that if they met if it

2:06:53

was like oh they're alive and there and He's

2:06:56

gotten them somewhere safe or with their

2:06:58

characters. I'm a guffin out there like

2:07:00

the Mulder's sister. That's like Some

2:07:03

damn to get the story of what happened like

2:07:05

no one cares anymore. No one cares anymore, right?

2:07:08

Unless it's done in like how

2:07:10

and or sister Like

2:07:14

in that way is interesting except that

2:07:16

like it's not like You

2:07:19

know, but there's that's gonna be

2:07:21

only been 12 episodes of and

2:07:23

or so far Right, right. We have

2:07:25

another like 30 something of this

2:07:28

show. Yeah, you know, yeah but

2:07:30

we don't need another bait and switch after

2:07:33

there was already like a Season

2:07:36

cliffhanger, right? What's

2:07:38

the fate of the Bridgers? Situation

2:07:40

and yeah, that is already

2:07:45

Who is Luke's father is already

2:07:47

that's you know what I mean we don't need another

2:07:52

Another one of these mysteries about where the

2:07:54

parents are who the parents are, you know,

2:07:56

yeah, I guess that's kind of yeah. Yeah How

2:08:00

do you think this? No

2:08:03

Austin's had a horrible thought Acolyte

2:08:07

is going to confirm some shit

2:08:09

about Anakin that Anakin is

2:08:11

some like Sith Magic

2:08:15

better. Just her bullshit better. Just right

2:08:17

bullshit Magic thing and again

2:08:19

doesn't have a father right we all know this

2:08:21

anything doesn't have a father Yeah

2:08:30

I'll give you though. Mary was born

2:08:32

without sin. That's the immaculate conception. Oh It's

2:08:36

fine. Don't worry about it science. No, you're

2:08:38

good. I get how you get the Frankenstein

2:08:40

monsters Jesus You

2:08:49

know, I'm not there either anymore but I

2:08:53

am but I am a world-class pedant. So I

2:08:55

am gonna cool you on it Cuz

2:08:58

I'm an asshole The

2:09:01

point is What if they do

2:09:03

what if that's what acolytes big turn ends up being?

2:09:06

Where it's like a long game to put

2:09:08

Anakin into the world via

2:09:11

some distant past Sith. No

2:09:15

No, I don't want evil evil Casting

2:09:20

it out It

2:09:23

out loud because it hit me like you're like

2:09:25

the dream that Ezra has at the beginning of

2:09:28

this episode Cuz

2:09:30

I was thinking like if we're talking about like we talked about oh

2:09:32

could play G's be there or could so-and-so be there you

2:09:34

know if someone says the words like those

2:09:38

who say the words their ways to conception

2:09:40

but like You know, I

2:09:43

don't think whoever owns I don't think Disney

2:09:45

but also whoever in the future own Star

2:09:47

Wars for all time will

2:09:49

be able to resist the idea of

2:09:52

Filling in the blank of who was Anakin

2:09:54

Skywalker's father and or was

2:09:56

it a Sith? maneuver manipulator

2:10:00

No more family no more family no

2:10:03

more no more No,

2:10:07

just no more adding to the Skywalker

2:10:09

family no one else can be in

2:10:11

that family it's closed it's no

2:10:13

more No application

2:10:16

done. No Anything that

2:10:18

you try to imply about Anakin you then

2:10:20

have to imply about Luke

2:10:23

and Leia yeah, and I understand

2:10:25

that they were very much disrespected

2:10:27

the Obi-Wan show So, you know, everything's fair game,

2:10:29

I suppose but Come

2:10:33

on, you can't do that. You just can't

2:10:35

do that. Don't do that. No, they

2:10:37

won't do it But

2:10:40

the point is Yeah,

2:10:43

so like they died under mysterious circumstances They

2:10:45

were just like they went back

2:10:47

to save more people and they didn't they didn't make it

2:10:49

son And so

2:10:51

that's that's what we know about the the

2:10:53

Bridgers I'm Something did hit

2:10:56

me off since that's where you're talking about like the

2:10:58

possibly the Ezra could go bad that

2:11:00

shot of him looking out at the twin moons

2:11:02

of Lothal

2:11:05

yeah, like the

2:11:07

inversion. I know Luke. He's

2:11:09

born on the same day. Uh-huh These

2:11:13

were in again, this is only for a

2:11:15

rebels recon. He's born like two days later,

2:11:17

but it's not they're they're very similar He's

2:11:19

just a little younger than the twins But

2:11:22

he's born on the day the Empire is declared

2:11:24

correct, yes and You

2:11:27

know, we've got the yeah just

2:11:30

the fact that you know, he's born on a planet with

2:11:32

the you know, the Imperial

2:11:34

occupation outer rim to a

2:11:37

twin. Yeah binary moons

2:11:39

Yeah, yeah, and and suddenly it

2:11:42

is like is this gonna is he gonna be

2:11:44

the version who goes bad at some point? This

2:11:46

is gonna go horribly wrong. This is like a

2:11:49

Could all the all the pieces are lined up this could

2:11:51

have been a Luke Skywalker, but no I

2:11:55

think my gut is no because I think we

2:11:57

would know it because we would see a bunch

2:11:59

of dark I think we would have

2:12:01

by osmosis got in a lot

2:12:03

of like frankly, we would have gotten a lot

2:12:05

of like 20 year

2:12:08

old hot evil Ezra fan art in

2:12:10

our lives by now we would have

2:12:12

seen that by Like

2:12:16

there's a lot of fan art of like

2:12:18

hot Anakin Evil

2:12:20

hot Anakin out there. This is the truth.

2:12:22

I'm aware. I'm aware But

2:12:26

we don't think we get that with Ezra

2:12:28

I Which which

2:12:31

is not Textual, right?

2:12:33

It could be that he becomes evil

2:12:35

and it's boring and no one cares

2:12:37

And so there's not that sort of

2:12:39

like second someone always cares about Someone's

2:12:43

always like you're so he's

2:12:45

so damaged right exactly a hundred percent. I

2:12:47

don't know who would say that personally I

2:12:49

don't know anybody who would that

2:12:51

would be an attractive thing for I don't know

2:12:54

anybody my name certainly But I do think it

2:12:56

would What

2:12:59

are you? That

2:13:01

your evil Damn

2:13:05

it, that's really good. I can put it

2:13:07

in the in the Crying

2:13:11

oh my god, I need

2:13:13

that for the show notes, please. Thank you.

2:13:15

Yeah, I'm sure it's for the show notes

2:13:20

Damn Finding

2:13:23

it That can take your

2:13:25

time. You don't do you know? It's

2:13:27

yeah, it's it's it's quick to quick to grab

2:13:30

I have it in the safe Link

2:13:32

better safe place. Yeah, like a folder with

2:13:34

other image. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's good to

2:13:37

have Throw away

2:13:39

things anybody looking horrified in the

2:13:41

background of Natalie shot Did

2:13:49

y'all notice rider as odd he's gun is

2:13:51

a modified version of what we've seen before

2:13:54

Well, do you remember somebody else had a class here in

2:13:56

the collection of golfs? I

2:14:00

believe in you fuck hold on

2:14:02

uh-huh. Yo Rob is going into the

2:14:05

mind palace. I Believe

2:14:10

you can get here who is the

2:14:12

most likely person in Star Wars to

2:14:15

just have an AK Oh,

2:14:19

we've noted this before no no

2:14:21

more more likely than hondo who's

2:14:24

the realist? I Are

2:14:30

two would know I'm not gonna get

2:14:32

it it had been no cadmains

2:14:34

good good, but cadmains to cowboy coded,

2:14:36

you know saw

2:14:39

in stela I

2:14:43

couldn't remember if the under on had them

2:14:45

running around with a case with a case.

2:14:47

Yeah It's specifically the gun that that she

2:14:49

has that stela has with the with like

2:14:51

the sniper scope and all that So

2:14:54

that's a good sign. You know But

2:14:57

I still don't know what I want to trust this guy's face is

2:14:59

weird a little it's like

2:15:01

tall and like big So I don't

2:15:04

grow on me. I'm sure but

2:15:07

we I Was

2:15:10

not getting a returning character from this guy. I believe

2:15:12

this is a returning character Yeah,

2:15:16

when I joined the rebellion right he's

2:15:19

already seems like you know, yeah I

2:15:21

mean low thought is no longer on their blockade,

2:15:23

right? Which is the other thing we kind of move

2:15:25

past is the fleet that comes for them on their

2:15:27

second base is the fleet that Was not low thaw

2:15:29

which hits one other big note here, right? Which is

2:15:32

they do not have a real base What

2:15:34

they have is will be on a planet with a

2:15:36

civilian population for a little while and then the the

2:15:38

Imperials will show up make life hell

2:15:40

for the locals and we'll have to leave and That

2:15:43

is not a good way to do this A

2:15:46

thing that someone noted in one of the

2:15:48

rebels rehounds this week was hey You

2:15:51

might note that by the time we get to

2:15:53

the original trilogy The rebels are

2:15:55

on places like Gavin for and ha which

2:15:57

do not have civilian populations. This is part

2:16:00

Why is that they learn

2:16:03

that their presence is a curse,

2:16:05

right? That they cannot

2:16:07

safely fight for

2:16:09

people from where people live. And

2:16:11

so there's a purposeful decision to

2:16:13

change that, right? So

2:16:16

we'll continue. And that's what this whole, this whole season has been them

2:16:18

being like, we need a base, we need a base. And

2:16:20

so I suspect that will be the back half

2:16:22

of it. And that base's name will be Yavin.

2:16:25

Maybe, right? Yeah. I'm

2:16:27

not sure because I don't know if they'll be there this

2:16:30

early yet. Maybe they will. I'll

2:16:32

find out. Um,

2:16:35

I'd like to find the same with his parents. It's

2:16:37

sweet. The sort of send off, you know, the, the,

2:16:39

the vision of his parents and the, the, the letting

2:16:41

go. Yeah. Um, cool. Yeah. Cool

2:16:43

to see the city before the Imperials

2:16:45

came and transformed it. And

2:16:48

we do get another, we get a shot

2:16:50

earlier this episode of what the city looks

2:16:52

like now when they first kind of arrive

2:16:54

to Lothal, which is like, like you said

2:16:56

earlier, kind of low domes, lots of stubby

2:16:58

buildings, you know, there's maybe one

2:17:00

tall tower left, but before it was this

2:17:02

kind of gleaming city on the hill, like

2:17:04

not literally on a hill, it's actually near a

2:17:06

bay, but big, like you said,

2:17:08

Wizard of Oz style towers, you know, so

2:17:10

tall that some of them reach off the

2:17:12

screen, you know, they reach past the top

2:17:14

of the shot composition. It's

2:17:17

really beautiful. Um, uh,

2:17:19

and that ain't it anymore. And it was really fun

2:17:21

to see that. And,

2:17:24

uh, yeah, we, we

2:17:26

end the episode with, with him sort of along with

2:17:28

Canaan. Oh, important moment. He gets

2:17:30

to hug Canaan Canaan. When, when he

2:17:32

learns about the death for sure, um,

2:17:35

we get them hugging and I think let

2:17:37

Jedi hug it's important. Let them

2:17:39

hug. You know, good for them. Yeah. Mm

2:17:42

hmm. Star

2:17:45

Wars Rebels. Are

2:17:47

we going to three episodes next time? Sure.

2:17:50

All right. I think three, three, three, two makes

2:17:52

sense. Yeah. I think that's what we can do.

2:17:54

So that is a princess

2:17:58

on Lothal. The

2:18:01

protector of Concord Dawn and

2:18:04

Legends of the Lassat. The

2:18:07

protector of Concord Dawn, you

2:18:09

say? We know that phrase, right?

2:18:12

We know Concord Dawn. What,

2:18:14

Concord? Yeah, it's the moon of Mandalore, right?

2:18:17

That's right. That's just something

2:18:19

I know. I don't know

2:18:21

what knowledge, but... Damn. Well, we

2:18:23

know the one previous thing, which

2:18:26

is, it came

2:18:28

up in the box. I think

2:18:30

it's tied to the fake

2:18:32

identity that Obi-Wan

2:18:35

takes when he's undercover in the

2:18:37

Q-Bot episode. His

2:18:40

thing is he says he's like

2:18:43

a bounty hunter, Rako Hardeen specifically.

2:18:45

You remember Rako Hardeen? Yes, it

2:18:48

was the marksman of Concord Dawn,

2:18:50

the Mandalorian moon or planet or

2:18:52

whatever. So, yeah. Was

2:18:54

that also the planet that all of the

2:18:56

evil, violent Mandalores got

2:18:59

pushed to? We thought that, but I think that that

2:19:01

is not the case. Death Watch,

2:19:03

I don't believe that that was... We saw that at the

2:19:05

time, but I think we were wrong about that. So,

2:19:09

yeah. Those are

2:19:11

the three. Princess on Lothal. I wonder

2:19:13

who that princess could be. Protector

2:19:15

of Concord Dawn and then

2:19:17

Legends of the Lassat. So finally,

2:19:19

you know, we've been talking a

2:19:21

lot of shit about not getting

2:19:23

good Sabine episodes, not getting good

2:19:25

Hera episodes. No

2:19:27

one said we're not getting an observe, but I

2:19:29

guess we're finally going to get a Zeb episode.

2:19:31

Legends of the Lassat. Oh, yeah, that's true. I

2:19:33

included him when I said that he doesn't get

2:19:36

enough stuff. His

2:19:38

stuff is more about, you know, serving

2:19:41

the Republic. Did

2:19:43

you turn into a trade day? I

2:19:48

thought she turned into a Loafcat, honestly.

2:19:52

I want one. I want a Loafcat.

2:19:54

They're so cute. So cute. I

2:19:57

missed the figure that lady had when we were the Halcyon.

2:20:00

Remember that? She had like a little

2:20:02

cat toy. Oh yeah. Well,

2:20:09

we're going to three and with that we've

2:20:11

reached the end of another episode. I'll just say

2:20:13

this, Zev has a lane. It's dirt

2:20:15

bag uncle. And I think he's been operating really well in

2:20:17

that lane. And I think that's why maybe we haven't been,

2:20:20

I don't feel like he's been neglected because he's just

2:20:22

like, he's not such an integral part of the energy

2:20:24

of the show every week. But it's not like, it

2:20:27

doesn't feel like they're trying to figure

2:20:29

out what to do with Zev. They know exactly what to do with Zev.

2:20:32

Now what they've done with Zev maybe

2:20:34

doesn't entirely feel like I can

2:20:36

easily imagine him in a story where it's like,

2:20:39

let's dig into that genocide, huh? That

2:20:41

feels like, we had that, that

2:20:44

laugh line in the episodes last

2:20:46

time. I can't

2:20:49

die this way on the last of my kind

2:20:51

as he's Winnie the Pooh'd in an air duct.

2:20:54

You know, good stuff,

2:20:56

bit odd. But

2:20:58

anyway, we'll see how Zev's big day out

2:21:00

goes next

2:21:03

time on A More Civilized Age. Our

2:21:06

show is produced by Riccardo Contreras

2:21:08

and supported by listeners at patreon.com/civilized.

2:21:11

Next time out, we're going to watch the

2:21:13

three episodes. Until then, please rate and review

2:21:15

us on your podcast platform choice. And remember,

2:21:17

I don't remember what she says. Allie just

2:21:20

hates Ezra's guts. He's

2:21:22

on site. He sucks.

2:21:26

Get him a vice cream.

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