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Let us return once more to a more civilized
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the rest of the Trove. This
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week, we've got a trio of episodes. Wait. First
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week, yes. We've got a trio
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of episodes and a trailer
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to watch. Go in live with a
0:34
screen share. We can do our summary
0:36
afterwards, but we are going to
0:38
watch the Tales of
0:40
the Empire trailer. You'll note
0:42
that I screen shared it. Why is that? It's
0:44
because the thumbnail has a spoiler in it. Yes,
0:47
spoiler for the two-minute, eight-second-long trailer for this new
0:49
animated show that seems to be a follow-up from
0:51
their last thing, which was Tales of the Jedi,
0:53
which we haven't watched yet because one of those
0:55
has like post-Clone War spoilers in it. This seems
0:57
like it doesn't have anything that spoils anything that
0:59
we haven't seen yet. So it's
1:01
okay for us to watch this trailer and maybe even watch the
1:03
show. We'll find out when it comes out. And it's so important
1:06
that we watch this trailer. None of you all have seen this
1:08
yet, right? No. I don't know
1:10
anything. No scares. I'm scared. I
1:12
will say the characters on screen right now, it's like Tales of
1:14
the Jedi. Remember Tales of the Jedi had like a
1:17
Dooku three-episode arc and then a Soka three-episode arc.
1:19
We've watched neither of those yet. Is that one
1:21
like Thrawn? It's
1:24
certainly a chis-male guy, right? A
1:27
chis-male, the worst account on Twitter
1:29
probably. That's
1:31
probably rude. There's probably someone who has that account
1:33
who's probably just like boring. Anyway, one
1:36
of those stories is about a character we've
1:39
met before, but the character on the left
1:41
here on the thumbnail with like the spear
1:43
is from the Ahsoka first Ahsoka episode of
1:45
Mandalorian. You might remember her. She
1:47
has like a spear. It's the lady, it's like the shitty lady
1:49
Ahsoka. The one she has to beat the shit out of to
1:52
ask the question where's Thrawn? Yeah, I think that
1:54
that's exactly right. I think she's in Ahsoka
1:56
also, but that's not why we're watching this trailer. Don't worry
1:58
about her. So there's going to be some stuff. The really
2:00
will fuck is that sniper using the Soca We
2:02
beg. Oh yes, he's important. Splendor says she's
2:04
not that important Watching this. as far as my
2:07
understanding of a situation, I'm
2:09
Nick Collison. Zip line. Or may.
2:12
Three two one go.
2:17
To use. Any
2:19
this has enough mana. Moving
2:22
ahead of and it's if I
2:24
miss our and darling of the
2:26
hurting. our read outs and three
2:28
two one go Sorry to. Be
2:32
safe. To.
2:35
The Some Ltd. Ago.
2:39
The way we don't know anything about
2:41
another with. Don't
2:44
freak out about this when. I
2:50
have. However,
2:53
it was really
2:55
pretty bystanders. Made
2:57
of snow. And. Ice.
3:03
Hockey and rice. Hockey
3:07
right? as. Fair
3:09
as fuck on the and clone. There
3:11
are no ports. A search for the
3:13
first thought is the same as we
3:16
know we don't have. Truly
3:20
cruisers madness. To
3:23
screening see. How
3:28
she was so sad. As
3:38
a Csv to do that said incremental or. So.
3:47
Rude. now
4:10
What is there it doesn't fall what if you
4:13
meet your new love No
4:16
fucking way yeah, yeah Oh
4:26
we've met I
4:34
He washed me 20 years ago I
4:41
Huh, I we
4:43
have to end the podcast. I don't know I
4:46
I don't feel good my My tummy
4:48
hurts I'm
4:55
It's wild how much I care about Barris Offee.
4:57
I hadn't you know what I mean. I give
4:59
so many shits about her I Care
5:02
about her so much We
5:04
got to read the Barris Offee books that don't
5:06
have anything to do with her being you
5:09
read them You read at least one of them. This
5:11
is the medical shit. Oh,
5:13
yeah Yeah, no, but we have to
5:16
read them with the knowledge of who she is in our heart
5:21
Anyway, I'm hyped for this this
5:23
is out in a month That
5:27
looked awesome one small thing. Yeah,
5:30
it's an uphill battle to make me care about Morgan
5:32
Elspeth. I Yeah,
5:34
I know I know I'm sorry about your
5:36
planet lady Doing
5:40
like a shitty reverse seven samurai was not
5:42
it I
5:45
can't remember. I can't remember was that
5:48
like the town That
5:51
was like all the there's so many up
5:53
buildings on the side That's every bill though.
5:55
It was the one that was color graded
5:57
to be yellow the whole time and head
6:00
big like wall wall city
6:03
yeah okay cutting to some
6:05
actor who was like a CEO I
6:12
mean I will say that I think her
6:14
background is relevant to us and
6:17
potentially can I
6:19
spoil small thing about about
6:22
the Ahsoka show yeah we'll care
6:24
about eventually I'll read the first
6:26
line of of her early life
6:33
section of the biography on the Wikipedia
6:35
for Morgan and Elspeth Morgan
6:37
Elspeth was a human member of
6:39
the Night Sisters a coven of
6:41
witches need okay okay okay
6:44
because I saw that I saw that
6:46
in the beginning of the trailer I
6:48
saw I knew I knew they were
6:50
my sisters so definitely different they
6:53
had like this is like a
6:55
post no I was going to say something because nobody
6:57
else said anything about it and I thought you're
6:59
right that is the beginning of this trailer is
7:02
let's get caught on the notice please revisit
7:05
can you get me a I'm
7:07
gonna bring it back up for you right now
7:09
I'm gonna make sure we're all seeing it live
7:11
here yeah you were right I'm gonna give it
7:13
a second to catch up because screen share sucks
7:15
sometimes you took seven minutes there it
7:17
is all right yeah there there they are there's the
7:20
droids you know and and we see her fight Grievous
7:22
eventually right in the trailer so maybe this is a
7:24
revenge arc for killing all the Night
7:26
Sisters you know what that's her yeah
7:29
there she is you
7:31
spotted it I spotted it and I and
7:34
and I need
7:36
to speak I need to speak when
7:38
I when I see because I felt
7:40
that I was like no way are
7:43
the night sisters finally who being
7:46
revisited getting their due but
7:48
she's going evil mode she's
7:51
going evil mode which is a
7:53
real change for a night sister yeah uh-huh
7:56
anyway where
7:58
is she being held Barris Yeah,
8:00
I don't know. Well, probably
8:03
that prison, right? Probably the
8:06
Tarkin prison that Ahsoka was held in. Is he
8:08
training these people up on Mustafar? I don't know.
8:10
That final duel had like Wobbapit and the Center
8:12
vibes. Yeah,
8:15
we did have those vibes. Yeah,
8:19
could be. I don't know. It's a
8:21
ring of fire, but I don't know.
8:23
This kind of feels... It's kind
8:25
of giving Mustafar. You
8:28
know, that's just Sith, right? Would he do it
8:30
at his house, though? I don't think he'd like that. Well,
8:32
yeah, I mean, the way
8:34
they drop to their knees. I know. I
8:37
dream of having a studio and like a garage.
8:39
So I guess if I'm Vader, maybe training
8:41
in Quizitor, it's like down the hallway. Down the
8:44
hallway, yeah. Because he's not leaving home for
8:46
that. That's a You Gotta Come To Me. That's
8:48
the one useful thing we learned from Obi-Wan. He doesn't leave
8:50
home for much. He loves home. God,
8:55
I forgot about that whole part of Obi-Wan where they go
8:58
to the prison thing.
9:00
I forgot about that. Wow.
9:04
Wild. Alright, we started with these
9:06
episodes. And hey, the words Mustafar
9:08
said... They are. And then
9:10
we get Seven Sisters stuff, which I don't
9:12
know if this Inquisitor here is that
9:15
character. I bet she might be. Maybe
9:17
she's a fourth sister. I know, but maybe she had a promotion
9:19
at some point. We don't know. Maybe she becomes
9:21
the fourth sister. Some of them have
9:23
the spinny thing, so it's hard to tell. It's hard to
9:25
tell. But no, this is... She's a different species. She
9:27
is like hair tendrils. That's different, I
9:29
think. Still. Are
9:32
we sure this isn't the seventh sister? I'm
9:34
pretty sure. That was our first impulse. That
9:36
was our first impulse. If it turned out
9:38
that she's the seventh sister and they did
9:40
no work with that in these episodes, I'll
9:43
be pissed in retrospect. That would be quite
9:45
annoying retcon. But
9:48
I do love the seven... Maybe she gets mind
9:50
wiped. I don't know. I love the sixth sister.
9:54
Anyway, Ron. Tell me
9:56
about these episodes. Yeah, so we'll take them
9:58
really quick. We
10:00
did do three episodes in
10:02
the end. We made a game time decision
10:04
to push our recording back today Yeah, but
10:06
because I was like there's no way they're
10:08
not gonna pick up this thread and this
10:10
time they did Yeah, sort of
10:13
it's still mostly a standalone It's not the episode
10:15
I thought the next episode would be but it
10:17
does follow on from the second the end of
10:19
the second one In a really clear way. Yeah,
10:22
I'm glad for that I don't
10:24
know we can revisit where we just want to move to a
10:26
straight three every time Cadence or or
10:29
not. I'm good with either Yeah,
10:32
we could do three three three two Cuz
10:35
the finite the finale of the season is a
10:37
two-parter. They have the same it's Twilight of the
10:39
apprentice one and two So, you
10:41
know, maybe we do three three three two and then
10:44
that's the end That way we have the room at
10:46
the end to talk about the whole season. So yeah,
10:48
cool All right But
10:50
let's say we'll see the episodes one at a time
10:52
Let's do it, especially this one because this is kind
10:54
of a standalone in the most standalone
10:57
of this group So
10:59
we continue exploring the tensions and mutual respect
11:02
animating Rex and Canaan's relationship in
11:04
stealth strike Let
11:07
me tell you if you're a fan of
11:09
spaceships and the old legends universe You're
11:11
dining well tonight because the
11:14
catalyzing events of this episode is
11:16
commander Sato and Ezra being captured
11:18
by a hyperspace blocking Interdictor
11:21
cruiser, uh-huh Embarrassingly
11:23
the second they like were yanked
11:25
out of hyperspace Like
11:28
I shot forward on the couch waved
11:31
MK to shut up as if she might
11:33
be about to speak and then
11:35
I was like it's an interjector Rob where's
11:37
that? Originally, do
11:39
you recall the original place? Remember
11:42
its first appearance being there to the Empire. Okay,
11:45
so then it's in TIE fighter It
11:47
is not it is in those
11:50
obviously but it's from the tabletop
11:52
game originally Apparently
11:54
it was a response to GMs
11:57
being like I need
11:59
to stop my Players from fucking hyper
12:01
jumping away every time that's certainly
12:03
the empire has some tool to
12:05
stop this from happening, right? And
12:09
in the West End games RPG that is
12:11
that is I believe where this first showed
12:13
up And there's a previous I
12:15
skipped over this but one of the previous episodes of
12:17
the season I want to say I want
12:20
to say it was the Ship
12:23
that stops them in blood sisters. Maybe oh,
12:25
no, it's not it's wings of the master
12:28
wings of the master Also
12:30
explicitly has the B
12:32
wing episode It
12:34
specifically has references to the West
12:36
End games RPG also Specifically
12:39
the idea that like there was an
12:41
important Mon Calamari Designer of
12:43
the B-wig and that it took place on
12:45
the planet Chantal it
12:47
literally the name of the expansion was
12:50
or the name of the the supplement
12:52
was strike force Santopole and that is
12:54
like the most deep-cut nerdy shit in
12:56
the world Dave your real one
12:59
I'm sorry. I ever down. Wow. So wow.
13:01
So here we are again We
13:04
should buy the old source books for
13:06
this and then like play a campaign
13:08
of West End games Star Wars We
13:11
should do this at some point. I would love to have the time
13:14
to do this with you, Rob Someday
13:18
we will Anyway,
13:22
so they are hauled aboard the interdictor cruiser
13:24
which how it works It's got like four
13:26
gravity wall projectors We'll get to
13:28
that actually will kind of learn as they disable
13:31
it So we'll talk about the sort of doctrine
13:33
around the interdictor and how it works But
13:35
anyway, they're all the board for interrogation by
13:38
its cover But not quite clever enough captain
13:40
and Rex and Canaan have to sneak aboard
13:42
the ship's amount of rescue Relying their respective
13:44
expertise to bluff their way in the heart
13:47
of the cruiser The rescue goes
13:49
well with some hijinks is a lot of
13:51
hijinks as always in rebels Ezra
13:53
and chopper succeed in sabotaging the cruiser, but
13:55
Rex is captured in the attempt, making a
13:57
heroic last stand. I Don't think he had.
14:00
But he does and Qaeda has a full
14:02
a one man hurry to get him back.
14:04
As gay fly away from a dying and
14:06
victor we know the to have formed a
14:08
strong bond. As the same to salute.
14:12
Yes, I'm sorry. I should
14:14
know. I should. Truly
14:20
truly truly when I'm alone. Remember
14:22
the oil he got? Am boys?
14:24
Yeah, this is the most like
14:26
Clone Plus July shit that we've
14:28
gotten so far. Since. Records
14:30
came back from out of a team, you know? yeah.
14:33
Yeah. I'm glad we're here to says I was
14:35
I was not with same. And another, it
14:37
was getting to the other side
14:39
that you can't stand the boys,
14:42
you know I. See the boy
14:44
though, he loses. He boys are
14:46
you out? yeah Plus have Silver
14:48
Lake every time you like like
14:50
Ziegler you threatened violence towards. that's
14:52
a Rexford no fucking reason is
14:55
like said I'd And also you're
14:57
a crew like yeah would. Have
14:59
killed as best as in front of
15:01
a or whenever. I
15:04
listened. Closer a
15:06
whole other than I ever knew that
15:08
ever get a thrill but it's hard
15:10
to separate that out like that. Looks like
15:13
the person who killed your master sword
15:15
like the eight guys have killed your
15:17
ass. I don't know how it went down
15:19
but I see how the other july
15:21
not gotten as they all ten people they
15:23
lost a leg is not good. You
15:25
know somewhere. I have
15:27
a lot to process. he gets. Their I knew
15:29
he'd give her. right? And glad
15:32
I found it out. Naval officer
15:34
you know, having a rough attentively
15:36
and is the kind of. The.
15:39
Highlight the fact that the tensions the
15:41
results here doesn't feel like they've really
15:43
compelling. We develop them because it is
15:46
kinda like. The. Tension is
15:48
Seasons is kinda weird did
15:50
at Ford Racks rather than
15:52
really getting to a place
15:54
of. Eat the feelings
15:57
if you heard right beyond just the
15:59
like, Theoretical. Are.
16:02
After how's the clones killed
16:04
his master versus I think
16:06
we're probably be a. More
16:09
authentic they would. they have him really get
16:11
into the fact that I'm not really sure
16:14
you have free will man I'm not sure.
16:16
I've never really have your it like you
16:18
have your back the of mine. We don't
16:20
get that we look at the real conversation
16:22
with the real stuff underpinning. more like that
16:24
holsters New York with was the one who
16:26
have trade them at in the last instance
16:28
and like he's not here to him to
16:31
take that Ceo and I mean I importantly
16:33
I would assume previous rebels recon. Was
16:36
and Gregor just stayed on that
16:38
planet. Followed
16:42
you buds Pablo. That suggests that they may
16:44
have repaired and taken over one of the
16:46
eighty eighty walkers as their new host. They
16:48
were bigger is super duper for your own
16:51
and slivers of that a farm in New
16:53
Hampshire. That's what he said he was like
16:55
they they feel they have these other a
16:58
tv but you know they may review the
17:00
bigger quarters because they are really going to
17:02
see them again. I've november the of buried
17:04
in the i mean they're not part of
17:07
the resistance I me what he says that
17:09
rebels retarded resin like wow think. About their
17:11
set their state of mine's they might not
17:13
have been cut out to work for the
17:15
Rebel isn't which. Is that such
17:17
a shame Imo? Because I would have liked
17:20
to have seen them more by do like
17:22
I said of them to join. Yeah. I
17:24
do think though, Rob that ah. That.
17:29
That can and does gestures kind
17:31
of towards some of those I'd
17:34
like. More interesting. Points.
17:37
Of conflict when he said at some
17:39
point he like. Ah
17:41
says to racks. Ah, Once
17:44
you get in there and forget which
17:46
side you're on which I feel like
17:48
is is a joke but is also.
17:51
Kind. of real and is is kind
17:54
of gesturing more towards the like a
17:56
how much of what you did it
17:58
and do now is free will?
18:01
And how much are you like
18:03
following some scripted
18:06
behavioral or like, I
18:09
don't know. Um, I wish
18:11
we would have had more I wish the conflict
18:13
between them would have been more centered on
18:16
that idea. It's
18:19
not because it's like, but I feel like
18:21
Rex already covered that because he said he took the
18:23
chip. And that's the problem. The problem is
18:25
it's a chip. And like, we I think we're
18:27
always on the right side of history. And we
18:29
said the chip kind of undercuts the
18:31
fun, one of the fun dimensions
18:33
of the clones doing this when they were ordered to
18:36
do it. Because if they did it because they were
18:38
ordered to do it, and almost all of them did
18:40
it, just because they were ordered to,
18:43
that is really compelling in
18:45
Canaan's case, right? Yeah. How
18:48
you know, and truly,
18:50
how do I know you didn't kill your master, and
18:52
you're just lying about it now, all the rest of
18:54
your boys did, right? But the fact
18:56
that you say, Oh, I was a it was a
18:58
chip to kill all the Jedi. So I didn't do
19:00
it. It's so
19:02
pat that it's kind of undercut some
19:04
of that tension. And especially the
19:07
thing that talks about it is he's not wrong
19:09
in a certain one certain way, which is
19:11
there's that conversation early in this episode, where
19:14
Harrah's like, well, he can import import, he
19:16
can impersonate a stormtrooper. And Canaan's like, that's
19:18
because he's a stormtrooper. And she's
19:20
like, he's a clone trooper. And he says same
19:22
thing. And, you know, for
19:24
Harrah, the clone troopers showed up and
19:27
saved her people on right
19:29
on. What's why I'm looking on the
19:31
name of the right on Ryloth. Thank
19:33
you. But
19:35
for but for Canaan, and not
19:37
just for Canaan for the
19:40
admiral who eventually interrogates Rex, hey,
19:43
you built this, all
19:45
this shit. That was you the the
19:47
admiral later tells Rex not
19:49
to jump ahead too much. But he says, like, we
19:52
know, I
19:54
serve the order that you put into place.
19:57
And Canaan sees that Canaan sees
19:59
them. As the sword by which
20:01
the empire was forged rights and there's a
20:03
direct connection. There wasn't all the color we've
20:06
talked with us or for all the phones
20:08
were not like one day. No more clones.
20:10
Many of the police trained the current generation
20:12
stormtroopers. Risk it's an offer to do that
20:14
in this episode. There is a continuity between
20:17
those two things and Fourteen and that's really
20:19
sorely phelps I was given a little more
20:21
time to breed since rest came on board
20:23
or just kind of which was like a
20:25
later episode in the season and that we
20:28
had one or two. I wish they. Had
20:30
gotten to a scrape. I wish they had gotten into a
20:32
fistfight that had been. Calm. Down or
20:34
like I wish I you know I would
20:36
love to have seen Rex hurl something at
20:38
Seen in about like not be on protect
20:41
his master about you know something like I
20:43
would have loved to have seen rec starting
20:45
to under team in Skyn more directly at
20:47
some points of their be on a little
20:49
bit more even footing with this but instead
20:52
and Forty Sandwiches does kind of weird about
20:54
it for eight episodes and now we're here.
20:57
And are hard mom to make them.
20:59
Makeup was yeah it's another like robot
21:01
era has to be the. Ah
21:04
yes the base hulu C O/mom
21:06
of the group because rec teams
21:09
plan is like well yeah to
21:11
go get Saddam and Ezra. Me
21:15
example: Do it. And to the human rights
21:17
are going to do it. As
21:19
partly the gear, their skills are complementary and
21:21
matter, but it's also clearly a. Us.
21:25
New York on road trip? Yeah,
21:27
Jago. Work it out. You need
21:29
a buddy comedy adventure? Yeah, except
21:31
I'm not. I'm happy
21:33
that it's just like we end this
21:35
episode is it's resolved in their friends.
21:38
That had a does feel like. Okay,
21:41
so we're just not gonna get that. Kind
21:44
of that Henson has gone like
21:46
that. I feel like they're yeah,
21:48
I just feel like that clone
21:50
vs. On. Jet.
21:52
I. was kind
21:54
of under utilized i would hurt if
21:56
to the of the vader supple bring
21:58
it back if we ever get if
22:00
they ever learned who Vader is, you know,
22:04
especially because you will to
22:06
the other part of this. Rex
22:08
just still hero worships the Jedi. He
22:10
doesn't have any like weird feelings about
22:13
how they were. They
22:15
were the meat shields for the Jedi. Like,
22:17
yes, he was a very privileged position of clones. And he is
22:19
a little a team of like top clone
22:21
buddies. They were doing like
22:23
the elite warriorship. But there is
22:25
no sense of we were cannon fodder. Like we
22:27
were literally like turned out. There's
22:30
none of that either, which is I think the other part of this,
22:32
which is we don't have a wreck
22:34
sort of chewing over a lot of the things that
22:36
the Clone Wars brought up where give clones a minute
22:38
to think about their lot in life, a lot
22:41
of shit comes out. And
22:44
with Rex. Do
22:46
you get shit? They pull that ship out,
22:48
too, because it's just they pulled out the
22:51
bar. You forgot all about him,
22:53
Bara. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
22:55
the interesting thing is also how willing he
22:57
is to flip into that role. Like
23:00
he does it again in this episode. And he did
23:02
it the last time where it's like, you
23:04
know, I'll stay behind and be the one who shoots while you
23:06
guys get out of here. And it's like, oh,
23:08
Rex, be part of the team.
23:11
And the great see the thing, you know,
23:13
going off our discussion of Hannibal last week
23:15
and sort of the and also like the
23:17
Michael Mann version of this character. You started that
23:19
show. Did you watch him? Oh, can
23:23
I tell you, I forgot to also
23:25
mention that fucking Jillian
23:27
Anderson is in that show. What? Yeah. I
23:29
saw that tweet. She can't be in that,
23:32
too. Austin. Yeah, she's great, too. She's great
23:34
in it. Well, it's like the rocketeer of to
23:38
the. But like an interesting
23:40
version of this would be.
23:44
Rex just loved doing this shit. He
23:46
loved being the wingman of like watching
23:48
a Jedi just like car through a
23:50
thousand people and like he's
23:52
just in it for that. And this is a
23:54
way for him to get back into his happy
23:56
place, which is being the
23:59
gunman along. a magic
24:01
space wizard, that would also be an interesting space.
24:05
That is the
24:07
Hannibal-verse, Red Dragon-verse version
24:09
of where Rex would be,
24:12
which is that the monster is
24:14
being awakened by the fact that now
24:16
he gets to serve a Jedi again.
24:18
And ultimately, that's what he's there for, not really
24:21
a cause. They're not going to do that either. Instead,
24:24
he's going to be like, I
24:26
reject all of this. You know
24:28
nothing of my work, Empire. Speaking
24:33
of, something I low-key love. So
24:35
we meet Admiral Bromtitis, the
24:37
guy who's commanding this sort
24:40
of Imperial speed trap, as it were.
24:43
Who looks like an extra right from A
24:45
New Hope. I hate him. It's a long
24:48
hair. I actually love
24:50
that they're having Imperial haircuts shifting
24:52
into the 70s fashion mode that
24:56
we associated with the 90s or
24:58
ending from the Clone Wars into
25:00
Rebels, and the Imperials
25:02
are all adopting 70s long quaffed
25:04
hair. It's
25:08
very funny to me. I mean, the hair is great,
25:10
but he always looks like he's pounding a
25:12
little bit. There's just something a little bit off
25:14
about his model that I was like, this
25:16
is uncomfortable for me. He's sad. He's always
25:19
a little sad. He looks
25:22
like Callus is a weird cousin. He
25:24
does look like Callus is a weird cousin. He's
25:27
like, Callus got him this job. You know
25:29
what I mean? They're like, Callus pulled some
25:31
strings. Callus' mom is
25:33
just off screen, just like Cyril Carnes is.
25:36
But she's like, can't you do anything
25:38
for your cousin, Brom? You can't do
25:41
nothing for your cousin, Brom? You don't
25:43
have a little Admiral spot you could get him? There
25:47
is a vibe, especially when Brom calls in
25:49
that he caught Sato and Ezra. Brom's
25:53
not a fool. He immediately knows who Ezra is, especially when Ezra
25:55
pulls his eye. I'm Jabba the Hutt, bitch. I love that coming
25:57
up. He tries to say he's Jabba the Hutt. again
26:00
for like the eighth time and finally it blows
26:02
up in his face because like the Imperials
26:04
just keep a dossier on on on
26:07
aliases presumably oh yeah you know the
26:09
kids search through files but they keep
26:11
a file out they remember it yeah
26:13
exactly but yeah so he's like read
26:15
the file he knows he knows who
26:17
the kid is but the
26:19
minute he calls it in to agent
26:21
callus there
26:24
is a vibe of now
26:26
cousin brahm I know you've
26:28
done a good job and I'm just I'm just
26:30
telling you don't do anything else you know like
26:33
you know you really had you really caught it you caught
26:35
one on the line here and I'm just telling you you
26:38
don't need to dress that thing you don't need to clean it
26:40
you don't need to go to I'll come do all that you
26:43
know this is where it all goes wrong for
26:45
you when you try to do too much I'll
26:47
be there hey just hang just hang don't fuck
26:49
with that kid yeah which
26:52
is the key the key message like don't
26:55
fuck with that kid and don't trust he will
26:57
stay where you put him triple guard which
27:00
I kind of a bear sell
27:05
as we got out first yeah
27:09
they should have kept him on the ground where he
27:11
was when people with guns
27:13
and here they stay I kind
27:16
of like that he's on that ray program where
27:19
it's like his superpower is basically
27:21
being slippery as hell that's right
27:24
and yeah callus has this like
27:26
instinctive fear of like oh
27:28
no Dennis the menace is gonna do something
27:31
again like this is he's aboard the interdict
27:33
cruiser that's the worst place yeah well I
27:35
guess we don't have an interdict a cruiser
27:37
anymore fuck right no
27:40
captain your men are already dead you
27:42
probably a 14 year yeah it's
27:45
a real you're trapped in there with
27:47
him moment yeah but Ezra is kind
27:49
of a beast in these episodes it's
27:51
very funny to have gone from blood
27:53
sisters last week where he was like
27:55
literally kicking rocks and what
27:57
was mean to hear where
27:59
he is Like on
28:02
his shit wall. He's doing wall running.
28:04
This is respawns Ezra Bridger is here
28:07
He's doing I mean double jump he can he
28:09
can double jump. He yeah double jump he can
28:21
He literally gets made because he's still using
28:23
the job of the hunt I mean
28:25
yeah like 100% But then he like turns on her to
28:27
like my work. That's right. He wants them to know he was he's playing Java
28:34
was here Sabor
28:38
while they have it that's
28:40
cool. I admit that it's cool I'm just
28:42
saying everything that he says yeah the way
28:44
that he is written. He's so a little
28:46
boy He is a little boy. Yes, but
28:49
he's being written like little boy. He's the
28:51
thing is like last episode. He was like
28:53
little boy In
28:55
a different person's show and now he's like a little
28:58
boy in his own show He's like Peter Parker at
29:00
spider-man as a 15 year old. You know what I
29:02
mean like really good point I hadn't
29:04
really clocked that shift, but he
29:06
does feel a lot more Centralized
29:10
in in like grounded
29:12
in this season then
29:15
in Compared to
29:17
last season where he was just kind of finding.
29:19
I mean we were all kind of finding our
29:21
footing with all the characters But
29:24
he does feel so much more like
29:26
the anchor between Everyone
29:28
I mean this episode specifically is him be like you
29:31
all have to get over the shit because I have
29:33
to go be the Main character, and you're my two
29:35
dads Get the fuck
29:37
over it Something small that
29:39
I want to point out. That's interesting about the choreography
29:43
here the action choreography not
29:45
only is he doing a wall running and Just
29:48
like beating the shit out of stormtroopers left and
29:50
right and like impressing people every episode I
29:53
Think that we moved The first two here have moments where
29:55
someone like don't go out there by yourself And Then he
29:57
does go out there by himself and wins right? And he's
29:59
like. There's a bit were like him
30:01
and and rationally damn okay like I'll I'll
30:03
you know you guys I wasn't really what
30:06
your dame hugs Extremely impressed by the way
30:08
he handles and to do is i see
30:10
suits both of them when they come to
30:13
rescue him because he's already free and he
30:15
that has been repaired that the mehmet receive
30:17
chopper and then we have a long delayed
30:19
point drop as he realizes choppers where the
30:22
crisis of them is hop diversion home alone
30:24
the Us the most guys are my guys
30:26
on and suffer stitches on him. Our.
30:29
Guy plays plays. Plays
30:32
the tape of ever suiting the
30:34
to undercover Breton rec or direction
30:36
others. Gotta keep a real time
30:38
setting he they keep it totally.
30:41
Cool his own A we remain. Without.
30:43
Ends and suffered us ally. Charles
30:46
never lie alley have absolutely no
30:49
integrity years for me around here
30:51
to that whatever whatever charges and
30:53
mixed it on as yours is
30:55
your own next year now. Or
30:59
later. Oh man, I'm I'm
31:02
sure I'm living with him.
31:04
off the crops. Yeah, Look
31:08
real as a copy of the Zebra. You're right, I'll
31:10
add. Oh boy.
31:12
Selling. As I get his side
31:15
I may say what I said this
31:17
is the say I was built a
31:19
series of one thing in that choreography
31:22
besides just he's strong. Ah and
31:24
besides what he's doing risk shifts, bomb
31:26
or or a small details I know
31:28
says he doesn't reflect blaster both back
31:31
he backed them back. He's like punchy
31:33
like hitting them with force at all
31:35
this crags we have a lot of
31:38
wind. Power. behind it in
31:40
a way that it did not the
31:42
first season certainly and in that he
31:44
not even really for the first half
31:46
of this season but now he has
31:48
like swinging that saber am in big
31:50
strong motions and that plus the way
31:52
he runs off by himself had meat
31:54
and precipitately with rex looking at him
31:56
made me realize that one of the
31:58
steaks of the show going
32:00
to be? Is he going
32:02
to Anakin himself? Right? His
32:05
parents are dead. Does he have
32:07
the support necessary to prevent himself from
32:09
taking angry, violent action? Right? To get
32:12
revenge for them, for instance. Or
32:15
simply, he has a strong heart and a strong
32:17
sense of justice. When the rebellion leadership says, you
32:19
can't do X, we don't have the position, we're
32:21
not in the position to do X, will he
32:23
accept that? Or will he go off on his
32:25
own and go try to solve something for himself?
32:28
And on one of the later episodes today, there's a moment
32:30
where he's just like, I can't figure this out.
32:33
The force led me here, why didn't it lead
32:35
me further? And he gets angry for a moment,
32:37
or he gets frustrated for a moment. And Kanan
32:39
is there to be like, all right, like calm
32:41
down. And like, if not for that, where does
32:44
his where does that line of emotion take him?
32:46
Right? And I hadn't really thought about
32:48
Ezra as being one of the
32:50
stakes of the show in this particular way
32:52
of like, could Ezra walk
32:55
the same bad path as Anakin, that
32:57
Anakin eventually does, is not one of
32:59
the things I expect to care about.
33:01
But seeing him like grow powerful is
33:03
like, oh, right, jolly, are
33:05
actually kind of dangerous. And one of the big
33:07
things that makes them dangerous is they want to
33:09
change the world, but sometimes can't do that. And
33:12
that leads them into dark places, right? Or the
33:14
other side of they wanted to say you want
33:16
to change the world, but not that bad. Which
33:18
of those sides could he fall bad on, you
33:20
know? Especially I think
33:23
over the course of these three episodes
33:25
that that leaning
33:28
more into kind of offensive,
33:31
aggressive fighting
33:33
style becomes more and more
33:35
evident. And as we will
33:37
kind of come to see that sort of
33:39
aligns with him in tapping
33:42
into his emotions and feelings more
33:44
and more. So I think you're
33:46
probably on to that. I feel
33:48
like that trajectory makes a lot
33:50
of sense. I would love it
33:52
if like gifted
33:54
Jedi could have any other
33:57
type of story then. The
34:00
parents are dead and I might
34:02
get a little evil about it,
34:04
but ah, you know, It's
34:07
fine, Sent. The
34:09
spice. Both. Live up the
34:11
X Factor judges you They thrive
34:13
as gives your first round draft
34:15
pick a jet i the ice
34:17
that socialism issue to be a
34:19
pretty good. And his parents
34:22
are dead. Oh, put him on the board.
34:24
Know about the board As we get to
34:26
travel a draft. we are trapped in the
34:28
draft we need. We need him to them
34:31
on the team that's rookie the year right
34:33
there. Somehow you
34:35
like a speeder without. Us
34:39
as I'm not supposed to take. guess this
34:41
is as a gift this is reserved. this
34:44
is just alone. it's different. Will we be
34:46
given a to your mom move? I know
34:48
she's not around server as you know as
34:50
while you think receivership of his car these
34:53
are going to play and like three years
34:55
we can we so deep into the world
34:57
works holocene make money now so we did
34:59
all of all those jokes out as we
35:02
can right now. And
35:04
wealth, people listening and like years to
35:06
come. Just.
35:08
Read about the old and see double size
35:10
as though the world of of off the
35:13
book com of compensation to them. To my
35:15
world there's one thing on to. Just
35:17
Quit. We ask your above the i'm
35:19
seem between brahmin and rocks were from
35:22
does serve highlight the fact the serves
35:24
the empire that rec rex built. to
35:28
degree likes. It. So he
35:30
may reckon offer a half years read to
35:32
throw his himself away. As you noted may
35:35
be non necessarily when they're like down the
35:37
hallway from where the ship is and he
35:39
like pushes them to the else forests given
35:41
I'll hold them back to my other you
35:43
could gotten away but but he of tattered.
35:46
Yeah. Ah, So.
35:50
I. Was of two minds I think. smells like
35:52
both things are true in the same answers
35:54
your your temperature I'm at a lower than
35:56
is trying to. Trick Rak This
35:58
is this is. Bhatia right by
36:01
you. You know if you sign a
36:03
confession will make sure yet leniency you
36:05
know they'll be no annoy him at
36:07
that I think is what is going
36:09
on. On the
36:11
other hand, I'm not entirely sure he
36:13
is fronting about like. Disguise
36:15
of us got war hero writers, a
36:18
degree of honest reference of like holy
36:20
shit. This. Is Captain Racks
36:22
yeah damn what are you doing
36:24
here? What he says are people
36:26
who didn't listen or like your
36:28
clone. You used to be out
36:30
a war hero. I scanned your
36:32
number I looked up at your
36:34
file you are a your you
36:36
genuinely were a hero once I'm ah
36:38
you again he really believes you
36:40
brought peace and order. The Galaxy
36:42
Wire is loyal to us. That
36:45
offers him. Hey turning your people come to
36:48
eat with us up at the academy. I'll
36:50
get you a cushy spot, you know? I.
36:54
I kind of believe the offer but maybe that's
36:57
just of the state. has a weird face and
36:59
sad eyes. And he seems
37:01
the type to make this offer genuinely. But.
37:05
Maybe I'm wrong. Uncanny
37:08
Valley Patrick Jane. Oh My.
37:10
God He Is. He is.
37:13
Patrick. Jane and the Mentalists For those. Ah
37:17
he really is seen the men
37:19
to Live Now I feel like
37:21
that has been kinda weird. scraggly
37:23
bambee of the character. Outcome comes
37:26
the like he's like a pattern
37:28
thing. okay Ali and right was
37:30
that right? See that see the
37:32
act or Simon Baker is is
37:35
Australia see the like This is
37:37
he like A by Uk. He's.
37:39
Like British Simon Baker? Patrick
37:41
Jane? Yeah. Yeah.
37:44
The Under I. Miss.
37:46
It. What's it like? Bolts.
37:48
Yeah, I thought it was a bit of. A
37:51
mental says really good picture smallest
37:53
amount of from eye on it
37:56
Herbs I've done that before but.
37:59
People. said Also from the
38:01
devil wears Prada fame. Oh Sure,
38:06
he plays the evil guy spoilers
38:09
for devil of his product. Oh no She's
38:20
one of them they actually like this
38:22
probably a bunch of many devil's many devils wear
38:24
Prada We can't all be family to
38:26
G Damn, they can't they
38:28
absolutely can't ain't that the problem with the
38:30
world So
38:34
Yeah, but yeah to me it does it does kind of
38:36
feel like and I think this gets at some of what?
38:42
You're I can't what is in reference to
38:44
last last episode Austin but talking about Sometimes
38:47
the frustration of it
38:49
feels like too many Imperials are in on the
38:51
gag that it's all like Sith pure It
38:54
was it was callus saying the rebels
38:57
always like yeah to help people and it's
38:59
like shut the fuck up Whereas
39:02
this guy I think is much more of like
39:04
what you'd like to see which is this this
39:06
guy who like He thinks
39:08
he's the inheritor of a great victory that
39:10
established this this new order and he's defending
39:12
the fruits of that victory by
39:15
twin this interdictor
39:18
and you know turning turning
39:20
rebel agents And
39:22
this like so there feels like
39:25
there's less just evil for evil
39:27
sake pure Nihilism to
39:29
this guy. Yeah, when he's making this pitch, which
39:31
I did which why I think the Maybe
39:35
the offer is bogus, but
39:37
I don't think the spirit behind it is which I would have had
39:39
to dig in the scene Yeah,
39:41
I'm with you on that read makes sense to me
39:45
of course, it doesn't matter Rex would never take this
39:47
offer and Caine and decides of course
39:49
to go back and save him anyway, you know
39:52
and I'm watching this now and really
39:54
calls to attention thing I was saying before of the
39:58
difference in reflecting Bolt's
40:00
back. Canen is just like almost
40:02
absent mindedly like block, block. I'm blocking
40:04
these incoming blaster bolts. Not a big
40:06
deal. I'm turning, I'm talking to Ezra
40:08
and when Ezra's doing it, it's like,
40:11
ah, like batter fucking up different
40:14
vibes. But you
40:16
know, we're going to get the heartwarming Canen
40:18
decides that's his boy. He's going to go
40:20
get them. He busts in.
40:22
They shoot the interrogation
40:26
drone, droid before it starts doing its work.
40:29
They fight their way out. Totally
40:31
passable episode, right? Yeah. I
40:34
will say the only last
40:38
thing I wanted to say about this episode
40:40
is that I had the exact like I
40:42
I think I was the
40:46
ideal watcher for like the first
40:48
five minutes of this episode because
40:52
as as Ezra got pulled out of hyperspace, I
40:54
was like, how could you pull
40:56
a ship out of
40:58
hyperspace? How could that be possible? And
41:02
and here and here is the
41:04
exact same thing. Like you can't pull a ship out
41:06
of hyperspace because you never know where it is. And
41:09
I was like, that's what I was. They
41:12
have my thoughts. Exactly.
41:15
And then the and then Sabine, which
41:17
we didn't mention this. You find out
41:19
that the reason why
41:21
this crew like Sabine
41:24
tells the crew that while
41:27
she was at the Imperial Academy, she
41:29
saw them developing these gravity wells.
41:31
And this must be and then we come
41:33
to find out the area specifically that the
41:35
Imperial this Imperial fleet
41:37
are in is like testing
41:40
grounds for this gravity well.
41:44
Which is because it's like this is another recurring
41:46
thing with the maybe not
41:48
interesting, but it is another recurring thing that
41:50
we get with the Empire in this era
41:52
is the Empire is an empire of super
41:54
weapons. You know, we
41:56
talked about this a lot during maybe maybe
41:58
during Andor and the. like the focus
42:00
on the Death Star creation, but also
42:03
in Clone Wars era, that like, oh
42:05
look, you can see the first shades
42:07
of the Empire to come. The Empire
42:10
is about technology. It's about one
42:12
big weapon. And also it's really playing on a
42:14
lot of the kind of like the
42:17
secret super weapons of the Nazis, of
42:19
the Luftwaffe, like that era of, or
42:21
that part of war fandom that's like
42:24
really interested in all of the weirdo
42:26
things that didn't get off the ground,
42:28
all the secret experiments that didn't quite
42:30
work. That is
42:33
one of the touchstones of the way the
42:35
Empire has always been depicted in Star Wars,
42:37
especially in expanded universe stuff. It's
42:40
fun. It's fun to have a villain that
42:44
has a big super weapon of the week sometimes.
42:48
OG Gundam, you know, first Gundam did this
42:50
big time, the same thing where it's like,
42:52
okay, there's a bunch of regular robots, but
42:54
then they also have these big mobile armors
42:56
that are like goofy, sell a big toy
42:58
play set ass, you know, super
43:01
weapon of the week that's gonna get got.
43:04
But it does, you know, as far as the kind
43:06
of episode of the week, story of the week thing
43:08
goes, how do we deal
43:10
with this big interdictor ship is fun, you
43:12
know, and then you deal
43:14
with it in a funny way. And now we deal with
43:16
it in a fun, high jinx filled battle with Chopper and
43:18
Ezra, wrecking out, sabotaging
43:20
the gravity well generators.
43:23
And then we get pretty
43:26
awesome death throes of the interdictor as
43:28
it, you know, we get Chopper going
43:30
wait for it as they are being
43:32
pulled back toward the interdictor. But so
43:34
is the entire Imperial fleet and
43:36
its projectors go berserk
43:39
and it implodes. It implodes,
43:42
it sucks all the ships into itself. And
43:44
that collapses into a little black hole. Braum makes
43:46
it off the ship. And we do get
43:48
a comical sort of coda on
43:51
his story as Callus arrives just
43:53
a bit too late and
43:57
tartly notes that things do not appear to have gone
43:59
away. Yeah, I
44:01
love the ships crashing into the interdictor the interdictor
44:04
is like a big Star Destroyer ish Design,
44:06
but it has these kind of big outside
44:09
dome bulbs on it Which are the
44:11
gravity well generators and seeing
44:13
these other smaller cruisers kind of slam
44:15
and scrape into it It's some of
44:17
the best destruction work we've seen in
44:19
the show so far. It looks
44:22
they got Oh Bliterated they
44:24
got literally when the whole ship explodes.
44:26
It looks sick as hell wild. It's
44:28
so cool Yeah This
44:30
is it's fun to see people. It's fun to see
44:32
them playing with these toys. It just works when
44:35
they go big like this. I original
44:38
Star Wars era ship design just rules Sato's
44:41
ship which is the same sort of blockade
44:44
runner that Leia has is just a cool
44:46
design Like yeah, it's good.
44:49
I have one piece of I Want
44:52
them to bug me in this episode which is they
44:54
have this imperial shuttle Which they joke
44:56
about early on being like it's not the same
44:58
shuttle and we just steal another one, but
45:01
in it Sabine has
45:03
graffitied Rex
45:07
and Canaan But
45:10
we're going undercover. It's a great
45:12
image It's Rex like like
45:15
dual wielding pistols and came at the
45:17
light saber out It's very cute, but
45:19
it's right behind them in the cockpit
45:22
You couldn't put that in like one of
45:24
the like the private quarters You couldn't put
45:26
that in some up. No, it's like in
45:28
the cockpit if they come on the
45:30
kid for boys love Old
45:33
man y'all is here Finally
45:36
it's made it to rebels Very
45:39
funny Yeah,
45:41
all right episodes totally totally good
45:44
Yeah, good times. Just a just a fun adventure
45:47
Next next up we are back to
45:49
some old-school and I do mean old-school
45:52
vintage Jedi order business
45:55
as the future of the force opens on
45:57
a force sensitive, baby being taken
45:59
by brother and seventh sister as they
46:01
massacre a starliner full of people to get to
46:03
their target I was horrified all I could think
46:05
about was like that could have
46:08
been us yeah wow
46:11
wow so true true
46:13
you should have gone to the sub light
46:15
lounge never would have gotten there it seems
46:18
like the only kill people in that one
46:20
hallway I've been somewhere else I would have
46:22
been a great dragon react I just think
46:24
the servers at the sub light lounge would
46:26
have just dealt with it you know what
46:29
I mean yeah yeah do that in here
46:31
yeah you're not allowed I'm sorry done also
46:36
just shows how far the universe has fallen
46:38
like the baby's being cared for by a
46:40
sentient being they don't have uber boobah droids
46:42
well we do get an updated uber boobah
46:44
droid in this episode we do do we
46:47
we get some big you shaped uber do
46:49
but it's like it's like no I know
46:51
how I think that the uber
46:55
droid has gone from insect to bug it's
46:57
gone from boobah to kiki it's just a
46:59
big stretch out what you know
47:01
what I mean it's just a bit it has the
47:03
back I think that was I think that was I
47:05
think that was a contagion mob that was that's
47:10
how far we've fallen I said
47:12
get rid of the round half the uber boobah droid
47:14
right this is all we got here you just gotta
47:16
make your room but do it this is what I'm
47:18
saying when your room but has to be a big
47:20
stick with like the uber droid
47:22
that we get here the whatever
47:24
household chores droid that we have here I
47:27
killed you in armor core six fires at
47:29
the Rubicon I'm sorry you were just some
47:31
tank treads and a tall pole I
47:34
whooped your ass I got a little arena
47:36
emblem for you so
47:38
apologies for that I didn't know that you were a
47:41
caretaker of children I wouldn't have done
47:43
it so apologies to the the new
47:45
stick droid well this is just like
47:47
that's that moment in all quiet when
47:49
when Paul reads the the read the
47:52
like wallet of the French So
47:56
Cain and Ezra and Zab and chop are sent
47:58
by So get to look into rumors. The the
48:00
inquisitorial baby ceiling with the scene they
48:02
go to the plan to Kobo Aussie
48:05
checks out the star liner and finds
48:07
the baby's granny still live. Meanwhile.
48:09
For Ghosts and a baby. hi Jason
48:12
Sue as the gang rescues and Authority
48:14
and July baby and then plays cat
48:16
and mouse with inquisitors. first tournaments and
48:18
next aboard speeders racing through traffic. the
48:21
finally quartered and before they get to
48:23
the ship ah yeah they they They
48:25
lose their fight with the with the
48:27
to inquisitors but the blast doors open
48:29
and from a long of pure white
48:32
light comes the So Gitano who quickly
48:34
best the Imperial see spare some sister
48:36
rallies or the Legion reinforcements arrive at
48:38
course. Aka who. Merely forced jumps off
48:41
the planet basically eye catching the Phantom
48:43
in mid air is worthless. Ah, unfortunately
48:45
at the episode and we see Seven
48:47
Sister playing back a recording one of
48:49
her adorable probes took of as or
48:52
a comfort in the baby by inviting
48:54
have to come live with them and
48:56
growl accidently the train the location of
48:58
their hideout. P.my know and
49:00
learned that that's how they found
49:02
out he so lucky. That
49:05
for now. The I guess softly. As
49:07
for now I've one in four weeks area before
49:09
we start with aims are the planet as takes
49:12
place on mostly grub to cover. Your
49:14
Why do you think it's a map. Has
49:17
we're getting some classic Clone
49:19
Wars. Writers' Room shit here.
49:22
Oh, I've gone. To
49:25
do tacos you got it in online.
49:27
I will read to you from this
49:29
ah this entry. it's or the world
49:31
to Cabo may or may not have
49:33
had his name derives from the fact
49:36
that the dining option. On.
49:38
That day of the Writers' Room. Was
49:40
a nearby taco bar. You
49:45
know, you know, So you could
49:47
have been a higher than should have been
49:49
built on how to write what we that's
49:51
shameful for those. So se an.
49:57
Awesome to go! From
50:00
the My.out you tuxedo. Fucking
50:04
clue what you know as he. Did
50:07
you don't remember to see no
50:09
further Way I know you know
50:11
your Averted Snyder Leveraged Tito. It's
50:13
a smattering of about this episode
50:15
on the Depot Hood episode dubbed
50:17
The Way that We Learn must
50:19
have could smell of the. This
50:23
is supposed to remember the other
50:25
half of back whole episode is
50:27
new of indecent have the either
50:30
the other. Every episodes were like.
50:33
I feel like ours somehow is
50:35
Pad May slowly dying from the
50:37
nouveau been be poison lot of
50:39
her secret a husband has blown
50:41
away to secure the planet of
50:44
a thousand moons to direct. I
50:46
guess that whole episode was a
50:48
one hour special for that. Okay
50:50
but ah yeah the guy who
50:52
gets killed trying to escape the
50:55
planet is to Tito, a friend
50:57
of J Bows who gives electrocuted
50:59
before his super explodes. He's
51:02
like a rhodium. Named Akita Riders Rooms,
51:04
they've been known to be sneaky.
51:06
Assume. They get hungry. That. Is
51:09
simply doesn't own a lame ass
51:11
right? Totally hims used to come
51:13
up with. I mean bursar. So
51:15
other say this me opening here.
51:19
So. Services Bit of a fixer upper. I'll
51:22
concede that. I'm. Not sure
51:25
why not. You know that arguably
51:27
her Friday was a pyramid. our
51:29
best. The Seven Sisters. Are
51:31
you receive the like know it's a
51:34
name words are you said it would.
51:36
Last episode side Iran was a red
51:38
flags that may than a red flags
51:40
that she was like Ezra Bridger. The
51:43
arrival of all that good know maybe
51:45
not a good sign. All that energy
51:47
is dawn This episode by the way.
51:51
Yeah. I can I can see it also
51:53
go to my to be evil. you
51:56
know how valuable yeah was a killing all the people
51:58
who try to steer I
52:01
guess it was fifth brother mostly doing that right?
52:03
No Trash
52:08
at doing that cuz he does at the end of
52:10
this episode and doesn't pull it back to him. It
52:13
just clatters across the ground He's
52:15
not good like suddenly this is so
52:17
interesting fifth brothers introduces like Vader's sending.
52:20
Yeah You
52:22
know an elite inquisitor and it's just brother Who
52:25
seems to just be bad at this and
52:27
seven sisters seems like the brains and the
52:30
bra into the operation So I might be back
52:32
in yeah, yeah She
52:35
is the rebel. She is rebels Marjane No,
52:42
what if and I think that this comes from
52:44
a conversation from a friend of mine I remember who
52:46
suggested this what if Barris off
52:48
he becomes a soak as marriage aid That's
52:52
what I would like to see. I don't support
52:54
this. Yes Mary
52:57
Jane start. No Personal
53:05
assassin, yes That
53:07
make her okay. Yeah, we should
53:10
just get married shade people have
53:12
job That's right
53:19
Marriage aid revealing to all
53:21
of why a Twitter that her actual
53:24
job is being the secret assassin of
53:26
the Emperor Healthcare
53:28
is good anyway
53:33
Shots sometimes you just fire some shots off
53:36
the Other thing
53:38
about this episode that is a goofy
53:40
trivia piece before we get into it
53:42
too deep Is the name of the
53:44
face first baby is a Laura? Which
53:47
is the name of the baby in Willow that
53:49
the movie will I was about? Then
53:52
who is looks like this baby
53:54
big head old baby getting carried around
53:57
and in Willow All or is
53:59
like some sort of emperi Some
54:01
baby empress. I don't know. I'm not a willow head.
54:04
Yeah, you know Willow Willow The other the other
54:06
big Lucas swing of the 80s in 1988 Lucas
54:11
arts Lucas arts Lucas film made up a
54:14
fantasy movie called Willow with like
54:18
Oh my god, what is his name? What is the oh,
54:21
yeah, Val Kilmer, Warwick Davis, Warwick Davis who
54:23
had previously been wicked The
54:25
Ewok is a major character in it. Yeah, we
54:27
should watch that at some point. It'll be a fun
54:30
we should so
54:33
American graffiti I
54:37
Was thinking to say that there's like a film list that I
54:39
want to put together of things that I want to watch
54:41
before and or season two. Mm-hmm.
54:44
Yeah The
54:46
battle for Algiers Michael
54:50
Clayton Michael Clayton, we
54:52
should watch Michael Clayton I'll
54:55
see Michael Clayton Michael Clayton That's
54:59
a good movie anyway For
55:01
about this stolen babies. Did y'all have a
55:03
good feeling what the babies are being stolen
55:06
for immediately? Yes immediately I guess the name
55:08
of the episode is future of the force
55:10
which kind of suggests it even without that
55:13
but you think How many
55:15
quizzers like? They're not creating
55:18
an alternate Jedi order where it's just like bizarro
55:20
Jedi order with the quiz But that's
55:22
not what they were doing last time either So
55:25
remember we did this plot before yeah, it
55:28
wasn't about creating alternative
55:32
Jedi order thing it was that
55:35
is that Palpatine was gonna like put we're gonna put them
55:37
into like a Brain
55:40
juicer that gave him psychic
55:42
powers I read
55:44
the name of that episode was it was like children of
55:46
the force Right. I'm
55:48
remembering this that the end the whole
55:51
thing was that he had a device
55:53
I don't remember the device Yeah,
55:58
there's definitely device Yeah,
56:00
I think his whole thing was like, I'm going to get
56:03
to see the future by brain
56:05
draining these guys. Maybe I'm
56:07
wrong. But my point
56:09
being, I don't think it was as simple as,
56:14
I need more inquisitors. I'm raising the
56:16
inquisitors. He might also just want to kill them to
56:18
prevent them from being dead. Why did you understand why
56:20
they're just killing the babies right away? Right. Well, that's
56:22
the thing I don't get. Because Seven Sisters is too
56:24
good and she wouldn't allow that and knew it. But
56:27
you could make Dark Jedi. You could make a bunch of...
56:32
But they don't want a lot of Dark Jedi.
56:35
I mean, they want some
56:37
to quash out what's left of the
56:39
Jedi Order and the potential to rise
56:41
again. But they do not want lots
56:43
of Force users running around who might
56:45
potentially become a threat to... This is
56:48
the whole thing. Palpatine seems to
56:50
have engineered this really carefully to make sure
56:52
no... We're not going... This is
56:54
not going to go bad the way it always
56:56
goes bad for the Sith. I
56:59
see what you mean. Yeah, that's
57:01
a good point. But
57:04
the one part of this episode I don't fully
57:06
get is like, I don't understand. It's
57:08
like, if the reveal is like,
57:10
this is how they're creating quizzers. Yeah, we kind of
57:12
knew that. They're clearly sourcing Force-sensitives
57:14
for this purpose from somewhere.
57:17
But I also don't understand why they would
57:19
just take the baby off the ship and
57:21
not just like, you know, kill it. Yeah,
57:23
okay. Here is... I found
57:25
the script. I found a transcript of
57:28
Children of the Force, which is
57:30
the episode in Clone Wars. I
57:33
will say it's very funny because it has
57:36
been censored. It was a censored
57:39
script. The
57:42
opening is, a thief hunted in
57:44
a daring assault. Anakin Skywalker and
57:46
his padawan Ahsoka. But
57:49
assault has an asterisk in it to prevent it
57:51
from saying ass or
57:53
assault, I guess. Oh my god.
57:55
The word slave has been asterisked
57:57
out here. Very funny. to
58:00
me. Anyway, here is what... The
58:02
TikTok sensors are coming. They saw
58:04
them. That's right. The Oobaduba
58:06
Droid says, they're
58:08
their child. Soon you will cry no more.
58:11
Master, subjects of this age rarely
58:13
survive the slave conditioning procedure. And
58:16
Palpatine says, I'm afraid the risk is
58:18
necessary. And then he
58:20
continues to say, the natural
58:23
talent these children possess is too great
58:25
to be wasted by the Jedi. I
58:27
foresee an army of force-talented spies in
58:30
my service, trained
58:32
in the dark side to peer into
58:34
every corner of the galaxy from afar
58:36
and my enemies would be helpless against
58:39
such a vision. If the surgery fails,
58:41
I will have lost nothing. So he's
58:43
like, he's going to chip him. He's
58:45
chipping him. He's chipping him up.
58:47
And then they're going to be his little, his like,
58:50
his minority report spies basically.
58:52
Right? And if they don't survive, then he still
58:54
wins. Then he still wins. Right. Exactly. So I
58:57
think that's probably what he's doing again. That's my
58:59
guess. Maybe you're right. Maybe it's more inquisitors. But
59:03
we know at least one of
59:05
these inquisitors is Ex-Jedi, right? Didn't somebody mention,
59:07
didn't one of the inquisitors at this point
59:09
mention falling? Not
59:13
falling, but. They mentioned, so we
59:15
know this from the Calcastas games.
59:18
Right. Explicitly the inquisitor you made in the
59:20
first game is like, I
59:22
was a Padawan. Dunno. Oubawana also same
59:25
story. Ex-Padawan. I
59:28
don't know if they're all Ex-Padawans. I don't think they are. Yeah.
59:31
I don't know. The timing on it's weird,
59:33
right? Because it's like, did
59:35
he have enough time to get an inquisitor
59:37
training program up and running for
59:40
children in, I don't know. It's been 20
59:42
years, right? Almost 20 years. So. Could've.
59:47
Anyway. Not really. Investigating
59:50
the children or investigating. That's right. They don't
59:52
even know it's children at first. They just
59:54
know the inquisitors are moving.
59:57
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Ahsoka shows up and
59:59
she's. She's like, I've been trying
1:00:01
to listen to Anakin's phone calls. I
1:00:04
can't choose that. She does not say Anakin. She doesn't
1:00:06
even say Vegas. Right. She's the
1:00:08
stick boy. Yeah. She just says, I've
1:00:10
been listening to the comms on
1:00:13
Mustafar. And I can't
1:00:15
unencrypt them except that I know that the Inquisitors are going
1:00:17
to these two locations basically.
1:00:20
Do you think that's true? Do you think she's heard more and
1:00:22
she's not telling them anything? Yeah.
1:00:24
She's known to life. Damn true. There's
1:00:27
that great moment early on in this episode where she
1:00:29
shows up and she's like, I'm here on Jedi business.
1:00:33
And Kanan is like, I guess I
1:00:35
qualify. And she's like, you qualify more
1:00:37
than I do. I
1:00:40
found that really good. Yeah. Yeah.
1:00:43
I'm happy to have a bunch of Jedi who aren't Jedi in
1:00:45
this show. Which should be.
1:00:49
Them comparing like a cert versus
1:00:51
a bachelor's of Jedi. I don't know.
1:00:54
Do either of these count? I don't know. I
1:00:56
think it's a cert versus an associates really.
1:00:59
Yeah. You know? I
1:01:03
will say like the
1:01:06
little Thorin baby, it's cute
1:01:08
them finding like them finding
1:01:10
the joins department and discovering the story
1:01:12
and then Chopper turning out to be
1:01:14
really good with the
1:01:17
baby is a funny bit. It's
1:01:20
very cute. I also really love. I
1:01:24
really love the I forgot
1:01:27
what I really love. I really love something
1:01:29
else about this baby. That's all. It's just fun.
1:01:32
Fun to have babies as a as a as
1:01:34
a gag in a show. That's it. I
1:01:36
thought there was I thought we
1:01:39
were waiting for them to find
1:01:41
the blueberries that the baby had
1:01:43
been eating because I had like
1:01:46
purple like
1:01:48
stains on their
1:01:50
hands. And
1:01:53
I thought the reason why they kept
1:01:55
crying was because they wanted their like
1:01:57
juba fruit or whatever. I
1:02:00
had been fucking snacking on. Yeah, OK.
1:02:02
And I just kept waiting for the shoe to
1:02:04
drop for like them to be like, wait, look
1:02:07
at it's hands. It
1:02:09
has purple hands. We just had
1:02:11
to get the two berries or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I
1:02:13
remember the thing I was just saying that I like,
1:02:16
which is more sensitive. Yeah.
1:02:19
The the baby,
1:02:21
I think specifically, what is the thorium
1:02:23
baby? I see. Is that pipey? Yeah.
1:02:26
Pipey is voiced by the badly de
1:02:28
broadly Baker, who is D
1:02:30
is wrong with all the clothes. So
1:02:33
they got D to do with the baby voice in this episode,
1:02:35
which is fun. That is very bad to
1:02:37
me is great. I felt
1:02:39
bad for the for the droid that was running
1:02:41
around hiding the baby. Was
1:02:45
it was it was it trembling with
1:02:47
fear when that cornered it? Yeah, I
1:02:49
think so. And then
1:02:51
you wouldn't let it come with and like, you got
1:02:53
to be a decoy. It died immediately. It died immediately.
1:02:55
That was me in armored course six fires of the
1:02:58
Rubicon with a laser blade. If you
1:03:00
turn the corner, you would have seen very similar maneuvers.
1:03:03
The very brother. That's right.
1:03:06
That's right. 100 percent. We
1:03:09
love to smash robots in the little pieces. And
1:03:14
then, you know, we get a whole chase in
1:03:16
that tenant building. Lots of like, you know, back
1:03:18
and forth through the the
1:03:21
catacomb, the sort of
1:03:23
war in of rooms that there they're
1:03:25
running through. Yeah,
1:03:28
it's it's a fun
1:03:30
chase. I do love. It's a
1:03:32
good car chase. I started and made all the
1:03:34
funnier by the fact that the driver
1:03:36
of their car is completely like press
1:03:39
gang into it. He's just a guy
1:03:41
who's convertible. They fell into the land
1:03:43
in. Yeah, it's good. I
1:03:46
was that not the mom, a Thorian. I
1:03:49
don't think so. That would be wild luck, wasn't
1:03:51
it? I
1:03:53
couldn't I was trying to remember what
1:03:55
color the shirt was. But
1:03:58
maybe it is. No, she looked. She
1:04:00
whoever that authority is is like shaking when they
1:04:02
run away. I think it's a different
1:04:04
authority than the one at the end Oh, maybe
1:04:07
probably maybe that's the same shirt color. It's like
1:04:09
right here. I thought it
1:04:11
was yeah I think it's her damn.
1:04:14
I think it's mom kid with
1:04:16
her right? Well, they're
1:04:18
protecting me. I mean yeah, she's
1:04:20
going to she's in the ship with them at
1:04:23
the end Mmm. Oh, right cuz
1:04:25
he's like go to document wherever.
1:04:27
Yeah, we're going to hell. Yeah, okay, so that
1:04:29
is her Okay, shut
1:04:31
up damn damn. She got
1:04:34
the forest how she show up and exactly the right
1:04:36
time That's
1:04:40
that mom's train Mom
1:04:44
for People be
1:04:46
forwarding the snaps of this episode on
1:04:48
Facebook. Like this is this is what
1:04:51
it is to be a mother Yeah
1:04:57
I you know, I think I want to say about some of
1:04:59
this like I like this chase just fine I think the chase
1:05:01
in the building is fine. It's good. It's good They
1:05:04
are hitting their beats, right? There's some gags They
1:05:07
do cut a perfect circle in the roof at one point We
1:05:10
get Ezra crawl do some crawling through
1:05:12
some vents and the fifth brother almost
1:05:14
stabbing him We get you
1:05:16
know some thermal detonator grenade type type action
1:05:18
like, you know, all that stuff it all
1:05:20
hits fine But there's something about this Location
1:05:23
both the interior of this kind
1:05:25
of tenement building and then which
1:05:28
by the way the name of this neighborhood is hammer town
1:05:31
Because it's like an a thorian slum
1:05:33
and the people of the planet are racist.
1:05:35
I guess so they call it hammer
1:05:37
town That's foul. It's foul But
1:05:41
that ends the car chase and
1:05:43
then especially the big final duel
1:05:45
area This feels so converse
1:05:48
to me and that it's fucking empty.
1:05:50
There is no one moving around these
1:05:52
places We are in a
1:05:54
fucking PS2 level like, you know what I
1:05:57
mean? Like it is hallways with doors that
1:05:59
do not open. Do not try that
1:06:01
door. That door is painted on. That door
1:06:03
does not open. Maybe it opens to let
1:06:05
three stormtroopers out at a time until you
1:06:07
kill them and then three more come out.
1:06:09
But that's not a place you can go.
1:06:11
And this whole back end of this episode
1:06:13
has that feel. And it's interesting because it's
1:06:15
not like Loathall is, has been
1:06:18
more dynamic necessarily, but I haven't felt
1:06:20
it the way I felt here,
1:06:23
felt it here, you know? It's
1:06:25
funny because when I was going
1:06:27
to point out that the landing sequence
1:06:29
on this planet looked really good. Like
1:06:31
I thought the planet looked really interesting.
1:06:34
The way that the buildings, the domes, yeah,
1:06:36
the buildings and like the dust kind of
1:06:39
parts of the ground peeking through like piles
1:06:41
of dust or dirt or sand or whatever
1:06:43
it is. And then yeah, then we enter
1:06:45
it and it's not
1:06:47
as dynamic as could
1:06:51
have been. And spend your budget where you have
1:06:53
your budget. But yeah. We
1:06:55
did get a perfect circle. Perfect
1:06:57
circle or? Oh, we did. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
1:06:59
That means Kane is training them right. They
1:07:02
did a collaborative circle drawing. It was
1:07:04
perfect. Not since Barris and
1:07:06
Ahsoka have we seen a team up
1:07:08
circle quite like this. That might have
1:07:10
been a square. I don't remember. Anyway,
1:07:13
points the same. And
1:07:15
then we get the duel. This is also
1:07:17
the first time I've really felt the filter
1:07:19
that they put on to stop
1:07:22
the like, if you're
1:07:24
watching this on Disney Plus, whenever the inquisitors
1:07:26
are on screen with the red twin bladed
1:07:29
lightsabers that do the rapid spin around thing,
1:07:31
for people who are not watching again, they
1:07:33
can hold their it's like a circle that
1:07:35
they have the saber
1:07:38
like hilt inside of and the blades
1:07:40
are on the outside of the circle
1:07:42
so they can like rapidly spin around
1:07:44
like automatically. And whenever they're
1:07:46
doing that and the camera is close up on
1:07:48
them, they put a filter
1:07:50
on the screen to like prevent
1:07:52
it from it's really Apple for people
1:07:55
for epileptic seizures, right, which I think is a
1:07:57
really good thing to have on this. But
1:08:00
it makes everything really dim, right? As far as
1:08:02
I know, there's no way to turn that off.
1:08:05
And there are some extended sequences where it's on
1:08:07
here that make the shots. Oh, I was wondering
1:08:09
why it looked like shit. They make the shots
1:08:12
really dark and like illegible. And
1:08:14
it's a bummer that there's not a way to be like, okay,
1:08:17
I am not epileptic or I don't have a risk
1:08:19
of seizure, you know, warning or no one is with
1:08:21
me watching. I mean, this is something I take seriously.
1:08:23
My mom had brain
1:08:26
surgery when I was a kid, had seizures
1:08:28
before the brain surgery, had seizures afterwards, had
1:08:30
to be careful around certain types of lights. Like I
1:08:33
take it seriously. I'd rather it default to be on,
1:08:35
but I would love to have an option to be
1:08:37
like, show me the version without this, because I would
1:08:39
love to see these fights without the
1:08:42
dimming built in, you know? So this
1:08:44
is the first time I've really felt
1:08:46
it because it's such an extended series
1:08:48
of shots that look washed out and
1:08:51
dim, you know? It's hard to read
1:08:53
them, so. Yeah,
1:08:56
it's, they just slap it like a, everything
1:08:58
looks a little bit gray when
1:09:00
they slap the filter on. It's
1:09:02
been happening with all the lightsaber fights. I just figured it
1:09:04
was like a weird like,
1:09:09
HDR thing that was happening or something,
1:09:11
but yeah. Kind of a,
1:09:13
this is not, they probably should have an option toggled
1:09:16
off because this is kind of a big issue for
1:09:18
a Star Wars. It's good
1:09:20
that you figure out that filter should be there, but
1:09:23
also if the solution is like, well,
1:09:25
I guess this stuff just can't look right
1:09:28
for a Star Wars thing, that's probably
1:09:30
not a great solution. Yeah. But
1:09:33
yeah. It
1:09:36
doesn't help that Ahsoka's got the brightest
1:09:38
life-favors in the mall. Right, she reveals
1:09:41
her new sabers here. They
1:09:43
look so cool. She
1:09:45
is so epic and cool when she
1:09:47
fights. I love to see her do
1:09:50
a like super jump
1:09:55
into a dive like Mario,
1:09:57
Cat Mario. Yeah, sure. It's
1:10:01
a really cool is the last time we've
1:10:03
seen her cheatsaber fight this she hasn't yet
1:10:05
This is the first time we've seen her
1:10:08
Pull the labors out right so that means I just want
1:10:11
to get in the right head here the
1:10:13
wrong Jedi Where I don't remember she
1:10:15
doesn't he lightsaber shit does she? the
1:10:18
final episode of that arc I Don't
1:10:21
remember she does but let's say she does some in
1:10:23
there Maybe maybe she escapes and uses the lightsabers a
1:10:25
little bit that mean at the end of Clone Wars
1:10:27
the end of season five of cloners We see a
1:10:29
whole season of photos in the
1:10:31
escape from prison. She doesn't yeah that which
1:10:33
is to catch a Jedi Which is which
1:10:35
is regardless? That's either February 23rd
1:10:37
or March 2nd 2013 No,
1:10:40
I stuck waiting trial in the final one. That's what
1:10:42
I'm thinking. Yeah, that's what I'm saying I don't remember
1:10:44
her doing any lightsaber stuff there. This is December 2nd
1:10:47
2015 So almost
1:10:49
three years between getting to
1:10:51
see Ahsoka at the end of season five of
1:10:53
Clone Wars and now Do
1:10:55
any lightsaber shit, so I really like
1:10:57
which honestly with our personal schedule that
1:10:59
might lie in up close You
1:11:02
might think So it's been a
1:11:04
minute since we've seen her show out and
1:11:07
she does she has the backwards style She's a
1:11:09
tool the two sabers. They're all white It's
1:11:12
fun all white is a fun way
1:11:14
to do sabers where you're like, I'm not a
1:11:16
Jedi, but I'm not a Sith You know so
1:11:18
cool Yeah,
1:11:20
I do have a white side the kyber crystal
1:11:22
for my life. You do I
1:11:26
just wish fifth brother and seven sister had a little
1:11:29
more juice. It's like this
1:11:32
this is a this is a little bit like an
1:11:35
ace pitcher from like You
1:11:38
know the Dodgers or
1:11:40
like this is this ring like this honey
1:11:43
like after the sir, you know, like yeah
1:11:45
Uh-huh, this is like, you know prime Otani
1:11:47
or something This is
1:11:49
Nolan Ryan coming out and these are These
1:11:52
are mine. These are my league over simile
1:11:54
years. Yeah, they get the fact that she
1:11:56
like there's a point at which she She
1:11:58
set her sabers down to, to,
1:12:00
she does, she turns her own sabers off
1:12:03
and like bows to let the seven sisters
1:12:05
jump in and then she puts her sabers
1:12:07
out and then reaches up and catches
1:12:09
her lightsaber, the seven sisters lightsaber in
1:12:11
her hands and tosses it to the
1:12:13
ground. And force powers it off. Bro!
1:12:16
Yeah! She's so strong, she's so
1:12:18
epic and strong. She's so epic and strong. Well
1:12:20
and she gives, she gives seventh of that moment
1:12:22
to like, you know you're dead. Well
1:12:25
we're here again folks, it's a Star
1:12:28
Wars reference. You are
1:12:30
beaten is what Darth Vader says to
1:12:32
Luke at, in
1:12:34
The Empire Strikes Back when he has
1:12:36
him in this exact shot but reversed.
1:12:38
Like, but like he's facing screen right
1:12:40
instead of facing screen left with
1:12:43
the, with the thing down. So she
1:12:45
is echoing Anakin without knowing it. Here
1:12:47
we are. Of course the thing that
1:12:49
then happens does not happen for Luke. Luke isn't like,
1:12:52
you're the one who's beaten and then 30,000 rebels roll out on him. Instead,
1:12:57
that is what happens here, a bunch of stormtroopers
1:12:59
show up. She could have won this fight. She should
1:13:02
have just stabbed, there are many moments in here.
1:13:04
Just kill him! There's a moment early on in this
1:13:06
fight where the fifth brother lands at Kanan's feet and
1:13:08
Kanan's like, alright time to go. Just
1:13:10
be like, boop, you're dead. That's it.
1:13:13
Come on. Has anyone been killed yet? Outside,
1:13:16
like outside of the Grand Inquisitor. Just the
1:13:18
Inquisitor and some, yeah I think, uh,
1:13:20
Tua. No! But
1:13:23
we don't see her die. Well she
1:13:25
explodes, right? But we don't,
1:13:27
we, in the way
1:13:29
that Anakin stabbed that
1:13:32
guy through the back. Right, that's who you're
1:13:34
saying. I feel like we don't see people
1:13:37
get, like it
1:13:39
feels like in some ways rebels
1:13:41
skews a little younger than Clone
1:13:45
Wars in the type of content
1:13:47
that it is portraying.
1:13:50
The stormtroopers get shot and maybe
1:13:52
get stabbed. But usually they're like,
1:13:56
we don't really see them get stabbed because I, I,
1:13:58
this And
1:14:00
distinctly, in the last episode, Ezra doesn't...
1:14:02
Yeah, he says that thing. He breaks
1:14:04
their lights. He doesn't even
1:14:06
attack them. He cuts their guns... The
1:14:10
blasters. Yeah, their blasters. And
1:14:12
then just kind of throws them against the
1:14:14
walls. But in the
1:14:17
next episode, he'll be a little bit more forthcoming.
1:14:20
But it seems like there's a lot of non-lethal
1:14:24
offense. Eesh. There's
1:14:26
a lot of... Tons
1:14:29
of people will die in ships
1:14:31
exploding, crashes, obviously. Yeah. Right.
1:14:35
We're going to see some of that
1:14:37
in the next episode. Also, there's moments
1:14:39
that are weirdly horrifying, like when Kanan
1:14:41
was using the Force to yank stormtroopers
1:14:43
out of cover for Wreck and just
1:14:46
like... That moment was wild. That was
1:14:48
wild. That was really... Just being
1:14:50
hauled out in the middle of the hallway through
1:14:52
the growing pile of your buddies to
1:14:55
just get killed by this old man, this wizard friend.
1:14:57
That's fucked up. So it's called
1:14:59
out in the stormtroopers. And then you get
1:15:01
things where the show will... If we
1:15:03
just don't show it, it's like it didn't happen.
1:15:05
Like, Grand Quiz are killing those two guys with
1:15:08
those two officers. Yeah. Yeah.
1:15:11
The thing that I'm reminded of here is
1:15:14
Ryan Paquin,
1:15:16
who used to
1:15:18
do a webcomic called Three Word Phrase, but
1:15:21
was also on regular... Regular
1:15:23
show is the thing that I'm remembering, but I
1:15:25
think Infinity Train also. So
1:15:28
these are like children's cartoon shows. Noted
1:15:32
once on Twitter that they could kill
1:15:34
anyone they wanted to as long as
1:15:36
they exploded. If the way
1:15:38
that they died was explosion, it would
1:15:40
always get through the internal review, basically.
1:15:44
It wasn't like an official thing. It wasn't like,
1:15:46
hey, we've said that you're allowed
1:15:49
to do this as long as they explode,
1:15:51
but you could do whatever the fuck it
1:15:53
was as long as you didn't
1:15:55
zoom in on the body, and what happened
1:15:57
was, boom, explosion's dead. The
1:16:00
up into different type of show. these
1:16:02
are you know more comedic shows but.
1:16:05
You. Know. That seems
1:16:07
like the rule here. largely in so
1:16:09
hundreds of people in a spaceship explosion
1:16:11
yeah know you can yeah see people
1:16:13
get shot if they're wearing armor and
1:16:15
like it's not sure if they're dead
1:16:18
or not. ah but we have not
1:16:20
seen. well we certainly are seeing like
1:16:22
people getting caught up by lights at
1:16:24
yeah we might have some like slashes
1:16:26
across the chest type I was everly
1:16:28
gets blaster bolts knocked back in to
1:16:30
you you know yeah but but yeah.
1:16:33
We are blue eyes, samurai. Is
1:16:37
is rebels are going to. This is what we're
1:16:39
We're We're going on. That's. What
1:16:41
I want? All that's what they call us
1:16:44
for. The blue. A similar Us. Our
1:16:47
way. New tell
1:16:49
you that I think people go so
1:16:51
fast. Yeah, Be
1:16:53
a when I. Don't think it'll
1:16:56
pass. I don't think. I
1:16:58
don't think that for the go the with the series
1:17:00
these this. Doesn't. Made a warning this for.
1:17:03
Me I have ever seen
1:17:05
us customs. ages later the
1:17:07
show as enough to these
1:17:09
ambling. And
1:17:11
that's so that the the Maybe
1:17:13
escape. And then
1:17:15
you know the final the the
1:17:17
be and is the realization that
1:17:19
seven sisters getting met recording that
1:17:21
the droid tacoma as recovery my
1:17:23
kid. And. The train location of
1:17:26
their I them. This. Is why you
1:17:28
can't ever speak regular language to a little
1:17:30
baby. Mama. When
1:17:32
you're Meyer Rebel you added to be in that we
1:17:34
would do by mode you can we say I am
1:17:36
I can't wait to you back of the secret base.
1:17:40
It's each other's names and out loud
1:17:42
on miss and you to talk about
1:17:44
weirdness. Secret Base is uses his never
1:17:47
say that word out loud. Yeah.
1:17:50
That should be the rule that I
1:17:52
could make a code word call it.
1:17:56
Does. com base to caught a few to
1:17:58
blow it is this back home the
1:18:01
main one or don't call it I mean
1:18:03
just say the spot
1:18:05
yeah anywhere anything
1:18:07
yeah but the bar name
1:18:10
of the planet that anyone
1:18:12
could type into
1:18:14
or you can't wait
1:18:16
to get you know you're gonna be everything's gonna be okay so you
1:18:18
get back to Coruscant and then we
1:18:20
go on Coruscant whoa they're on Coruscant? that
1:18:22
could have spun the ISB in a circle
1:18:24
for like five years that's right a
1:18:27
hundred percent that's way too much like
1:18:29
spy master type stuff that they would never
1:18:38
be able to so
1:18:40
yeah Dedra
1:18:42
being like I really don't think there's a cell
1:18:44
of Jedi on Coruscant and Kalis being like I
1:18:46
swear to god there is we just need to
1:18:48
keep looking god I want Dedra and
1:18:51
Kalis to meet so bad I just
1:18:54
need to know what the vibe is never
1:18:56
compare he could never compare
1:18:59
I mean the actual problem is
1:19:01
I think that Cyril would think
1:19:03
that Kalis is the coolest person
1:19:05
who's ever lived I
1:19:07
but like in a way that
1:19:10
makes him hate himself oh like
1:19:12
yeah he he he would
1:19:14
hate him this
1:19:16
is true well in real life he definitely
1:19:18
can yeah character the character
1:19:21
in the character can't know and
1:19:24
he hasn't made any sort of peace with that or found something that
1:19:26
works for him yeah
1:19:29
God he's gonna show up with facial hair it's the first
1:19:31
shot of season two honey must well that's cuz he finished
1:19:36
that's cuz he finished that season all
1:19:39
the swag a fortunate lecture look we're
1:19:41
not prepared for season two Cyril cool
1:19:44
he's gonna be locked in he
1:19:47
did lock in he did lock
1:19:49
in he might be the
1:19:51
lock person lock in he absolutely did
1:19:57
do that he he walked through that
1:19:59
crowd and locked in and he
1:20:01
grabbed her and he took her into that
1:20:03
room. I
1:20:07
recall. They had words. They
1:20:09
haven't had an exchanging of certain words.
1:20:11
Certain words were said and exchanged. They
1:20:14
were exchanged. Next year, right? We saw
1:20:16
like a year before that. We
1:20:18
still have like 40 billion hours that exist before we
1:20:20
can- No, let's find out if you might finish Rebels
1:20:22
by then. You know? That's
1:20:24
true. That's true. It'd be great to be able
1:20:26
to do that. It's great to be able to go right from Rebels into
1:20:28
Rogue One and then Andor
1:20:31
season two. Ah, that would be amazing.
1:20:33
True. So. I take back what
1:20:35
I said. Alright, so in Legacy, Ezra
1:20:38
Bridger wakes from troubled dreams to
1:20:41
find out that he's out of vision of his parents
1:20:43
that guides him back to Lothal. This
1:20:45
forces Kane and Ahara to- I expect this to
1:20:48
be much more of a gun going off, really.
1:20:50
It forces them to level with him
1:20:52
about what they learned last season about the fate of
1:20:54
his parents, which is, yep, they weren't prison. They
1:20:58
just didn't know which prison because
1:21:00
there's hundreds of prisons they could have
1:21:03
been kept in, but there's just been
1:21:05
a mass breakout that
1:21:08
has caused a massive like list of
1:21:10
escaped prisoners to leak. And Ezra
1:21:12
uses the force to find an
1:21:14
entry that calls out to him.
1:21:18
It helps that this entry has
1:21:20
a humanoid icon on it rather than the
1:21:22
many other like aliens and
1:21:24
robots that we see as other
1:21:27
Imperial prisoners. Ah. Before
1:21:31
they can go, though, to Lothal to figure
1:21:33
out what is going on with his parents,
1:21:35
Cowlas and several Star Destroyers
1:21:37
arrive to hit the Rebel base. They
1:21:41
get in a fight once again with the
1:21:43
Inquisitors barring their path.
1:21:46
Ezra gets a little heated, a little
1:21:49
dark-sided maybe, before
1:21:52
he's hauled out of the fight by
1:21:54
Kanan. And
1:21:56
then as they make their escape,
1:21:59
here in the And Taryn, the ghost, have
1:22:01
to stay back to help the rest
1:22:03
of Phoenix Squadron evade an Imperial tractor
1:22:05
beam. And Kanan
1:22:07
and Ezra head on to
1:22:09
Lothal, where it does look
1:22:12
like Minister Two is back. Bro, that's just
1:22:14
her. That's just her. That's just her. She
1:22:16
was in her bad life. She was just hanging
1:22:18
out down there. I
1:22:21
think it's her. It's her with slightly darker
1:22:23
skin and a slightly different pal's fluff. She's
1:22:26
just a recolor. She's a jazz lady, though.
1:22:29
She's
1:22:31
down there. Let her rock. Look
1:22:34
at her. Look at her. Look
1:22:36
at her. She has realized her
1:22:39
destiny to be a kooky arch lady.
1:22:41
That's the vibe. Like shows off. Like
1:22:44
local galleries. So
1:22:49
they get on the trail. They're sort
1:22:51
of guided. Did you finish your thing?
1:22:54
Did you not want to explain what happens at the end?
1:22:57
You don't wait until we get there. You didn't finish. Like
1:23:00
did you? No. Yeah. Okay.
1:23:03
Okay. But yeah, they're guided by a
1:23:05
mystic loft cat to... Oh God.
1:23:09
What's his name? Ryder Azadi. What's
1:23:12
his other name? X-10. What's
1:23:15
his other other name? Who is it?
1:23:17
Clancy Brown. Clancy fucking Brown is there. I
1:23:20
was sitting there. I was like, is that voice? That's
1:23:22
Clancy Brown. I thought it was Clancy Brown, but
1:23:24
I was like, they don't generally use voice actors.
1:23:26
They don't. But Clancy Brown is on
1:23:28
the track. It was Clancy Brown. Savage O'Praj is dead.
1:23:31
And so they can use him again here. Clancy
1:23:34
Brown, the incredible
1:23:37
character actor. Maybe
1:23:40
that's reductive. He rules, has
1:23:42
been in stuff for a long, long time. I
1:23:45
think everybody has a different fave for him, both
1:23:47
as an actor and as a voice actor. My
1:23:50
fave is that he plays Brother Justin Crow
1:23:52
in Carnival. I know a lot of people were
1:23:54
introduced to him via Highlander.
1:23:57
I know a lot of people who know him from Shawshank Redemption,
1:23:59
obviously. He was like Spongebob. He
1:24:02
was Mr. Krabs. I
1:24:04
didn't know that. He was Lex Luthor in
1:24:06
all the DC animated universe shit forever. Like
1:24:12
through the 90s and 2000s. He's just an
1:24:14
all-timer. And
1:24:18
so it's fun to have him here as a character
1:24:20
who I believe will recur. This is a new guy. So.
1:24:25
Yeah, he's freshly escaped from the Imperials. He
1:24:27
explains to Ezra that he's a new guy. He
1:24:29
explains to Ezra that Ezra's
1:24:31
broadcast, his freedom broadcast from the end
1:24:33
of last season sparked this huge riot.
1:24:37
But in the process of the escape, his
1:24:39
parents didn't make it out. And
1:24:43
that evening, Ezra returns to his
1:24:46
old tower
1:24:48
spire that he hangs
1:24:50
out at. He doesn't. Oh, it's a different
1:24:52
place? No, he's on the rock. He's on the rock. He's
1:24:55
on the rock. But the
1:24:57
force brings him to the old tower spire.
1:24:59
Yeah. And we get
1:25:01
a glimpse of the city before the
1:25:04
Empire came and transformed him. We see
1:25:06
that before all the squat dome structures
1:25:08
that the Empire built, it
1:25:10
was a city of spires, narrow
1:25:12
spires, very Wizard of Oz on
1:25:14
his way. That's
1:25:16
such a cool shot. That's such a cool reveal. So
1:25:19
cool. Yeah, I love it so
1:25:21
much. And he has a final conversation with his
1:25:23
parents that sort of mixes timelines where it is
1:25:25
what they were saying at
1:25:27
the time the Empire arrived and also as
1:25:29
a parting message from them. Yeah. He's
1:25:32
sad. Such a good episode. Even
1:25:35
during this, did you hate him, Ally? Did
1:25:38
you reject him even now in his moment of weakness? Loser,
1:25:40
loser, Ezra. Loser, El, El,
1:25:42
El, El. Hey, Ezra, it's your fault they're dead.
1:25:44
Yeah. Your shady little broadcast
1:25:47
got your parents killed. This is a good episode.
1:25:49
There was, there was, okay, I will say that there's a...
1:25:51
She didn't say no. Me?
1:25:55
There's the chase scene where it
1:25:57
looks like somebody, somebody
1:25:59
watched that... scene and was like, Oh,
1:26:01
you have to put some words in there.
1:26:03
This can't just be a silent because like
1:26:05
they just say a bunch of shit that makes
1:26:07
like it's a quips for I understand
1:26:10
this is tense. It could just be tense. I don't
1:26:12
need these quips. But besides
1:26:14
that fine episode, which is
1:26:17
the. Which is the case in the
1:26:19
cat chasing what? It's when
1:26:21
they're chasing the Loath cat through the
1:26:24
like town. Yeah. Um.
1:26:28
Ali, I'm not here for your fun cartoon time.
1:26:31
Folks, grow up, kids. I mean,
1:26:33
I really I do. I'm
1:26:35
I'm quick to call out when the show has good cartooning.
1:26:38
So you can't say that. But
1:26:40
here it was like there's I
1:26:43
can see the ad hoc
1:26:45
post production here. Um,
1:26:48
but it was great. I really love the vision. I like
1:26:51
that you can tell that they
1:26:53
invested more in the like camera
1:26:55
work in this. Oh, yeah. Like
1:26:59
just staging work in this, the like
1:27:01
scene where Hera
1:27:04
and Canaan are like showing him
1:27:06
all of the potential prisons that
1:27:08
his parents can be in. And
1:27:10
he's like in this little like closet on the
1:27:13
ghost, like surrounded by these bubbles. I was
1:27:15
like, this is the
1:27:17
show has not looked this good in a while.
1:27:19
That looks great. It was a particular shot where
1:27:21
the some phantom,
1:27:23
right? The little fighter ship
1:27:26
that like undocks from the
1:27:28
the ghost and like the camera kind of
1:27:31
follows it. That is
1:27:33
really, really cool. We've seen that sort of shot
1:27:35
in Colenor's once or twice before, where they were
1:27:37
really paying attention to ship choreography
1:27:40
and camera work. But like it really,
1:27:42
really plays well here. And all that
1:27:44
ship stuff is actually cool throughout the,
1:27:47
you know, basically they go on ahead
1:27:49
while the rest of the fleet is
1:27:51
trying to escape. Goral and
1:27:53
so there's like, you know, the kind of B
1:27:55
plot is can they get off this planet safely?
1:27:57
And that stuff looks great. throughout
1:28:00
it. Really great color work with
1:28:02
the the Garelle
1:28:04
that other planet has like these purple skies
1:28:07
that make everything kind of like bathed in
1:28:09
this light. It's great. The
1:28:13
Dream sequence was also like kind of good and just the
1:28:17
hard-to-grab logic of it. Yeah. The
1:28:19
fact that they've better than the
1:28:21
last sequence which was obviously like
1:28:23
just cuts from the
1:28:25
episode that like are gonna be out of context.
1:28:27
That's the sort of the trick that's being played
1:28:29
on Ezra. Here it is a much more like
1:28:34
this is a force vision the kind that Yoda
1:28:36
knows. Right? Where it's like it's
1:28:39
really hard to get at exactly what the hell
1:28:41
the force is telling you or what
1:28:43
it's saying. Because you know Ezra
1:28:45
has a vision of like coming into the
1:28:48
cell where his parents are being kept but
1:28:50
then he is a prisoner in the cell
1:28:52
and the lock-at releases him and then it
1:28:54
releases him that he
1:28:56
falls infinitely into
1:28:58
a pit. So
1:29:03
like that was kind of neat. That
1:29:05
was well executed. I also
1:29:08
liked that he
1:29:10
didn't become
1:29:14
a patch on child about the fact that Cain
1:29:16
and Hera kept something from him. Yeah. Which wasn't
1:29:18
much. They admit like they looked into it.
1:29:20
They had some piece of information but really not
1:29:22
much. Nothing they could tell him
1:29:24
that he didn't already suspect which was his parents
1:29:27
were in the system somewhere. Right. Well
1:29:29
specifically at the time as a reminder for people
1:29:31
who have not watched these episodes
1:29:33
and also maybe didn't watch the previous ones or
1:29:35
like the last season or who don't remember it
1:29:37
because it's been over a year or it's
1:29:40
been close to a year. In
1:29:43
the first season we get the Rodian.
1:29:45
I forget what the Rodian's name is
1:29:47
who tells him that
1:29:50
he knew his parents and offers
1:29:52
to tell him. Cebo. Cebo.
1:29:55
Right. Cebo with TS.
1:29:57
TSDEBO. And
1:30:00
Cebo offers to tell him what happened to his parents.
1:30:02
And he's like, no, I don't want to know. I
1:30:05
already know. You don't have to tell me. And it
1:30:07
assumes that they're dead. I
1:30:09
think I really love about this. And I think maybe part
1:30:11
of why he doesn't get petulant about it is
1:30:14
that Kanan and Harrow are quick to
1:30:16
be like, we tried. Cebo
1:30:18
told us this, and we didn't just sit on
1:30:21
the information. We called him favors. We've been asking
1:30:23
around. We did everything we could to try to
1:30:25
locate, confirm what he
1:30:27
said, and then to go from that to narrow it
1:30:29
down. We just
1:30:31
couldn't, which
1:30:34
is interesting. I think that
1:30:36
that kind of brings him a little
1:30:39
bit of, I
1:30:41
think it probably buys them some
1:30:44
sympathy from him and prevents him from being
1:30:46
his mightiest self, which is good. Because
1:30:48
I would not have been able to stay in this episode
1:30:50
if it was him for 15 minutes, being like, why do
1:30:52
they hide this from me? Yeah.
1:30:55
It shows a level
1:30:57
of emotional maturity that
1:30:59
I'm glad Ezra
1:31:02
is developing. And it takes seriously. Yeah,
1:31:05
you hear that, Ellie? Yeah. The
1:31:08
thing is, it takes seriously the premise
1:31:11
of a lot of the episode's conclusions this
1:31:13
season, which is like, we're a
1:31:15
family. We all love each other. We do all
1:31:17
support each other. And if that's all
1:31:19
true, then he needs to be cool about this.
1:31:21
Because if he isn't, then it suggests that he
1:31:24
doesn't have that trust with them yet. And you're
1:31:26
also just repeating. Yeah, you repeat the same
1:31:28
lesson over and over again. And
1:31:30
I think that we
1:31:34
know that Hera and
1:31:36
Canaan have Ezra's
1:31:39
best interests in mind. And they
1:31:43
weren't really holding any information
1:31:48
from Ezra that was meaningful.
1:31:51
Not necessarily it was meaningful, but
1:31:53
was actionable. There was nothing
1:31:55
with the information that they were holding
1:31:57
that could be done about. Up
1:32:01
until this like prison break Update
1:32:05
they got but um speaking
1:32:08
of hair. Uh, why is
1:32:10
his hair so shiny in this
1:32:12
episode? There's
1:32:17
14 minutes of this episode there's the shot
1:32:24
Play the tape 14 10
1:32:26
it's like straight on at him his hair looks like
1:32:28
it's made of it It
1:32:30
is the worst it's been which
1:32:33
is saying something because I already don't
1:32:35
like his big glob of hair
1:32:38
The way that they do it 90. It's so shiny They
1:32:42
put the metallic filter on they got him in
1:32:45
the dragon's arm Character creator put
1:32:47
the tattoo on his hair and put metallic at
1:32:49
100. Maybe he's trying to make work You
1:32:51
think he's trying to that you think it's a new hair product that he's been putting
1:32:53
in his hair I think he was like,
1:32:56
I'm gonna go find my parents. I gotta get it. I'm gonna
1:32:58
be a pomade guy It's
1:33:00
the low-cell water You're
1:33:08
right, you're right that makes sense actually
1:33:10
yeah Anyway,
1:33:13
thank you for hearing me Yeah,
1:33:17
we get early stuff in
1:33:19
this episode he does look like something's
1:33:21
living on his head it's weird man
1:33:23
It's giving time. He has all this
1:33:26
like animal force connectivity stuff. Maybe he's
1:33:28
got some sort of animal like living
1:33:30
in there No, no
1:33:32
ratatouille situation Maybe
1:33:37
this is true for all the low-cell people. We just haven't
1:33:39
put it together yet. There's a human They
1:33:42
they're hiding there with their hair Parasites
1:33:45
only people see the tentacle things. That's
1:33:47
right, and he's like I'm out here and
1:33:49
I'm proud of my hair tentacles We're
1:33:52
just cool, but he should tell us about it. I want
1:33:54
to know Why is it
1:33:56
all metallic? Is it because you need in high
1:33:58
iron content like what's called? What's going on?
1:34:01
Anyway, there
1:34:04
is one moment where he gets kind of patchy and like
1:34:06
you said, Rob, there are moments where he's angry. He's
1:34:09
looking for his helmet. He does come across like a
1:34:11
little boy then when he's like, where's my helmet? I
1:34:13
need my helmet to go do this. And they say,
1:34:15
good. Well, we're going to go with
1:34:17
you here. And
1:34:19
he's like, oh, right. OK, yeah, sure. But he
1:34:21
does. You know, it's one correction to me. I
1:34:23
don't you just found out that your parents are
1:34:26
alive and are in prison. You're allowed to be
1:34:28
a little bit of a baby about it. But
1:34:30
he give him the one correction. He corrects himself.
1:34:32
It's not so bad. So
1:34:35
I'm so willing to extend it. But then,
1:34:37
yes, during the fight off of Garelle, this
1:34:40
is one of the moments that he
1:34:42
goes absolutely ham and just like carves
1:34:44
through the bad real fast. Right. Like
1:34:46
he's like they get cornered.
1:34:49
By callous and much stormtroopers. Yep.
1:34:52
And they're a crossfire. Yep. They don't
1:34:54
really plan to get out. And
1:34:57
he just bum rushes everyone,
1:34:59
kicks all their asses, flings callous
1:35:01
like ragdoll. It's like and and came
1:35:04
as that moment of like, hey, hey,
1:35:06
at work. Yeah, the visitors come
1:35:10
and he's like heat check. Yeah,
1:35:12
he's going to like reserve her rage mode. And
1:35:14
it's clear they're just like they're happy to let
1:35:17
him come because they will be able to handle
1:35:19
this. Like this is he's just about to. But
1:35:22
he's like the the red mist
1:35:24
has descended. Yeah. And Canaan bails
1:35:26
him out by shooting the
1:35:29
door. And it does the Star Wars thing of
1:35:31
you shoot a door lock and it slams shut.
1:35:33
And, you know, he's cut off. But
1:35:35
the other thing is this. The only way he
1:35:37
wins that fight is if he goes his full
1:35:39
dark side. Right. That's the thing hanging in the
1:35:41
back in this fight is like he's
1:35:44
barely in control of himself. Right. Which remember, there
1:35:46
was a little bit of that in the first
1:35:48
season where it was he
1:35:50
had to control the animals to beat
1:35:52
the Inquisitor to escape the Inquisitor that
1:35:54
one time. Remember that? It was
1:35:57
kind of goofy. But like the idea was that he was
1:35:59
like. Mind controlling the big
1:36:01
creature but the creature was kind of dark-sided
1:36:03
and kind of gotten to him a little
1:36:05
bit Which I think is a much less
1:36:07
interesting version of some of this stuff It's
1:36:09
like the opposite in many ways of them
1:36:11
the more subtle version of like oh his
1:36:13
fight Choreography has gotten angrier and more passionate,
1:36:16
you know So
1:36:18
I'm glad they're going this way instead of that way
1:36:20
for now at least. I'm sure
1:36:22
we're not done with the Ezra can connect
1:36:24
to animals Not
1:36:26
least of all because in the previous
1:36:28
episode Keenan calls out the Everest powers
1:36:30
connecting to people and things. Yeah Connecting
1:36:34
to things, you know kid just connect to the
1:36:36
baby and make it stop crying. It's it's something
1:36:38
that you're calm Anyway
1:36:45
Also, I did appreciate before the
1:36:47
ambush started this this this episode
1:36:49
this week's Sabine
1:36:52
is given something due for a second moment
1:36:55
is Her realizing
1:36:57
like wait, there's no Imperials around
1:37:00
that's weird That's because the
1:37:02
Empire always pulls back for a major
1:37:04
operation Thanks Sabine Sabine
1:37:09
has huge like player who isn't at every
1:37:11
session but shows up and the GM is
1:37:14
like Actually, you know, let's
1:37:16
mean you could roll Roll Imperial knowledge
1:37:18
just to see if you know anything about this
1:37:20
that way I can keep you involved at the
1:37:22
table Because you never hear and sometimes you're on
1:37:24
your phone when you're here, but I want to
1:37:26
keep you involved. Oh Hey,
1:37:29
yeah, so, you know that like a standard
1:37:31
Imperial procedure to like pull back the forces
1:37:33
before a major operation. Yeah, okay,
1:37:36
so guys Party
1:37:39
or do I you just tell the party
1:37:41
no, go ahead tell the party Fuck
1:37:45
it. I'll drink Now
1:37:47
there is the other version of this story,
1:37:49
which is it could be the player who
1:37:52
is constantly ignored by the GM who is
1:37:54
like What can I please roll Imperial intelligence
1:37:57
to know this? Fine
1:37:59
go ahead and roll it you
1:38:01
know that you should have created a
1:38:03
character whose whole deal was art bombs
1:38:11
I had to create
1:38:13
a fucking feet that doesn't exist in
1:38:15
the fucking game I'm
1:38:21
an art bombs master okay great yeah so what
1:38:23
bonuses do you want for that yeah I
1:38:29
know funny they're doing her dirty
1:38:31
this season it's bad I
1:38:37
know you're off on a
1:38:40
you star on a you star on
1:38:42
this episode this is it's the Sabine
1:38:44
show well we're not doing
1:38:46
that again let us learn like at least here
1:38:48
it like they're not doing great by Hera this
1:38:50
season yet so far either but you
1:38:54
at least get her in these key moments
1:38:56
here right and I can say something that's
1:38:58
like unique about her in any one of
1:39:00
these episodes there's a moment here in fact
1:39:02
in this episode where Ezra says thanks Hera
1:39:04
and not thanks you to about about
1:39:07
Hera and Canaan because which
1:39:10
I thought was really fascinating is like it's
1:39:12
him reading the situation deciding you know Hera
1:39:15
is the one who put in the work
1:39:17
here here is the one who brought this
1:39:19
to me finally you know not it's not
1:39:21
a disappear it's not like well thanks Hera
1:39:23
you know or like thanks Hera but not
1:39:25
you Canaan it's not that at all it's
1:39:27
just him like cutting through the moment and
1:39:29
being okay I owe Hera extra thanks in
1:39:31
this moment right yeah and she has you
1:39:33
know she's she's she's Phoenix leader that keeps
1:39:35
showing up she has an ongoing plot line
1:39:37
with that stuff now yeah
1:39:39
he's doing a lot it is when I was
1:39:44
Imperial school they showed us
1:39:46
their awesome weapons platforms well
1:39:49
I one of the I don't think we're
1:39:51
gonna go to the Loni's on today we
1:39:53
have some time illness and they weren't that
1:39:56
exciting anyway I you know I guess I'll
1:39:58
say one cute thing one
1:40:00
Dave thing, there was a whole section on
1:40:02
Ahsoka coming back in the previous episode and
1:40:05
Dave hit his classic Dave-ism where he was
1:40:07
like, as far as I'm concerned, the whole
1:40:09
episode could have been 21 minutes of lightsaber
1:40:11
duel. That's what I wanted, which is classic
1:40:14
Dave. And he also point was like, there's
1:40:16
going to be so much of other sword
1:40:18
fights later this season, which made me go,
1:40:20
you're getting it. You're getting the George Lucas
1:40:22
and you didn't say lightsaber duels. You said
1:40:24
sword fights. That's right. That's what they are.
1:40:26
Don't forget it. But
1:40:29
in one of the, one of the people who asked Pablo
1:40:31
a question during this run in Rebels Recon, it
1:40:33
was like, wait a second. Sabine
1:40:36
is 15 now or whatever,
1:40:40
16 now. You, you have to
1:40:42
be, no, it is. She's 16 now. You would
1:40:44
be 15 to go into the Imperial Academy. So
1:40:47
when was she a bounty hunter?
1:40:50
Doesn't add up. And Pablo was
1:40:52
like, well, look at, look at
1:40:54
how cool Sabine is. Sabine is so cool. They probably
1:40:56
made an exception for her at the Imperial Academy and
1:40:58
got her in the 13. You can't even say she
1:41:00
lied. You can't be like, we're going to learn about her
1:41:02
manal in backstory. Maybe she lied
1:41:05
on her floor. She straight up says that
1:41:07
she was such a prodigy
1:41:10
that she got in younger. Boo.
1:41:13
She's an afterthought. So
1:41:16
bad. Well, I keep hearing that it
1:41:18
ends up becoming the Sabine Ren show
1:41:20
or that she ends up being like
1:41:22
the secondary protagonist. I'm not feeling it.
1:41:25
I'm not stoked for that. It's
1:41:27
not happening. It
1:41:30
hasn't started yet. Finally, Star Wars
1:41:32
with some ill thought out Mandalorian
1:41:35
character. Lord.
1:41:38
If, if I
1:41:41
could allow myself another bad opinion while I'm
1:41:43
already hanging on Ezra, there was when
1:41:45
he was approaching, uh, Callus, I
1:41:47
was like, Callus, please don't take this
1:41:49
L. Please. Funny.
1:41:55
I mean, you know, it makes sense that
1:41:57
he did. It was a great moment that
1:41:59
he did. But I'm still pretty freak out
1:42:01
to be cool in the end At
1:42:04
least the it wasn't like us Within
1:42:07
too goofy like he pushed him in a
1:42:10
way that like was a little bit more
1:42:12
tough Like
1:42:18
anchor or anvil on the head
1:42:20
you're right. Yeah, he's a wily coyote,
1:42:22
you know, yeah, exactly It was like
1:42:25
a little bit more physical than that.
1:42:27
Well, I do think there's a bit of The
1:42:30
distance between cows and Cyril carne is maybe
1:42:32
not as great as I initially Callous
1:42:38
seems like he's a dangerous opponent
1:42:41
and now it kind of just seems like He's
1:42:45
a mid-level Are
1:42:52
giving him shit for Respecting the rebels too
1:42:54
much or if we talked about last time
1:42:56
we talked about him referring to like the
1:42:58
rebel admiral or whatever Instead
1:43:02
of just calling them pirates or bandits or
1:43:04
whatever, right? And
1:43:06
and here there's a bit where where he
1:43:09
describes them as being like Clever
1:43:12
right because what they're doing on ghrel is
1:43:14
they're hiding their ships across space center space
1:43:16
ports basically They're not all in one place
1:43:19
which would make them easy to see they're
1:43:21
spread out across the planet space ports Or
1:43:24
across the city space ports or whatever and
1:43:26
the seven sisters like you respect
1:43:28
them Even though they
1:43:30
represent your constant failure and his
1:43:32
comeback is perhaps inquisitor We can
1:43:34
achieve together what we have not
1:43:36
apart because you are also stacking
1:43:38
elves over there You are not
1:43:40
free from sin the way Admiral
1:43:42
Constantine speaks to fifth brother Yeah,
1:43:45
it's just like naked contempt. Yeah, and like no
1:43:47
fear. This is not like ooh, then Quizner might
1:43:49
lose a shit on me this is like You
1:43:53
are trash. It is. It's great like constantly
1:43:55
constantly basically just like sort of dryly observes
1:43:57
He just he looks forward to the day
1:44:00
inquisitors find the previous results. I kind
1:44:02
of wish that Constantine was Wolf Yalaran
1:44:04
because I know he's out there and
1:44:06
I want Wolf Yalaran who you all
1:44:08
might remember as the Admiral from Kohn
1:44:10
Wars who is like
1:44:12
Obi-Wan and Anakin. He pops up
1:44:14
in the in the ISB. Right,
1:44:17
he pops up in the ISB and
1:44:19
he eventually is on the Death
1:44:22
Star on those ships. You're right I guess that's the
1:44:24
thing he ends up being an ISB guy not an
1:44:26
Admiral during this era so maybe that's why he hasn't
1:44:28
shown up but I would love for him to show
1:44:30
up in a role like this because the
1:44:32
idea of like our old clone wars Admiral
1:44:34
turns out to be one of these
1:44:37
guys is true and I want to see
1:44:40
it more you know and I
1:44:42
don't want to just see what Tarkin you
1:44:44
know Tarkin sucks Tarkin always sucks but we
1:44:46
like Yalaran and I want it like that's
1:44:49
part of the thing that we don't get
1:44:51
from clones because they're chipped
1:44:53
but we could get from officers the officers
1:44:56
were not chipped Wolf Yalaran did not go
1:44:58
through the clone surgery to get the the
1:45:00
chip in his head to make him order
1:45:02
56 the Emperor said
1:45:05
I'll order 66 and he was like damn
1:45:07
true right like he can't
1:45:09
have anybody's back as far as I know maybe maybe that
1:45:11
maybe we'll learn some of this in bad batch you know
1:45:13
what I mean but which I'm hyped on I'm hyped to
1:45:16
get to bad batch people are talking to talk about bad
1:45:18
batch so also
1:45:20
that's a good way to text test
1:45:22
like the the Rex reaction
1:45:24
to that without going straight to Anakin
1:45:27
you're right like I would
1:45:29
love to see how he would respond to
1:45:31
yeah finding out about that yeah
1:45:34
he must know right he must know
1:45:37
that all a lot of these admirals
1:45:39
and ISB guys are ex Republic
1:45:42
Army right I want
1:45:44
to hear him talk about it come on show me
1:45:47
yeah I don't know he doesn't have like the shame
1:45:49
about it though right like when he's like me
1:45:52
and Cody invented these codes you're right like
1:45:54
I don't think that he understands the yeah
1:45:57
where's Cody by the way what happened
1:45:59
Where the fuck is Cody? Huh? Alright.
1:46:03
I would love to know. Last we saw
1:46:05
Cody was Revenge of the Sith shooting at
1:46:08
at at or at
1:46:10
Obi-Wan. His big animal friend. And
1:46:12
his big animal friend. Yeah.
1:46:15
So, I don't know. Well.
1:46:20
This game sequence is great. You know, the
1:46:23
space battle. The one thing, I
1:46:25
didn't remember, did the Phantom always have
1:46:27
a dorsal gun that Chopper sat in?
1:46:30
It's always had, it's all, I think so. I don't
1:46:32
know if Chopper always sits in it. Chopper may have
1:46:35
earned that right after going Scarface
1:46:37
with the dual wheel a
1:46:39
few episodes ago. I don't know. Um. But
1:46:41
I think it, oh no, you're right. You mean the
1:46:43
Phantom, the little ship. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.
1:46:49
It definitely looks like a little turret though, right? Yeah.
1:46:51
It does look like that. Yeah. I've
1:46:53
never noticed that before. Maybe it has.
1:46:55
I know. It's a good sequence. And again, space
1:46:58
ships just look so fucking good in this. The
1:47:00
three star destroyers coming in low over the city
1:47:02
with the searchlights. Yeah, with the searchlights down. God,
1:47:04
it's awesome. Yeah. So good. Yeah. Again, this is
1:47:06
the stuff that's just going to get me as
1:47:08
like a kid who grew up with this stuff.
1:47:10
This era of Star Wars, it being my
1:47:13
favorite thing as a kid. You
1:47:15
know, I've talked a lot about, about that
1:47:18
specific disappointment hitting at Return
1:47:21
or Rise of Skywalker being like, oh,
1:47:23
I guess I'm closing the door on my Star Wars love
1:47:25
now because they, they scuffed the landing
1:47:27
so bad that I, there
1:47:31
are shots here that give me the feeling
1:47:33
of like a type of fandom that is
1:47:35
fairly rare for me that
1:47:37
like gets me excited in this way.
1:47:39
And those story destroyers showing up like
1:47:42
hit that note for me in a
1:47:44
way that's like so rare that, that
1:47:46
just reflects it like they're playing with
1:47:49
the toolbox and the toy box in
1:47:51
a really successful way. You
1:47:53
know, it's, it doesn't need to
1:47:55
mean anything for it to be well-made. And in this
1:47:57
case, it, you know, not that it doesn't mean anything,
1:47:59
right? It's a great show of this imperial
1:48:01
power and it's like it's communicating something about who
1:48:03
the villains are blah blah blah blah But
1:48:06
mostly like it's just a well composed You
1:48:09
know cinematography with Star Wars
1:48:11
stuff and and I'm happy to see
1:48:13
it every time so well and we
1:48:15
get like a little taste of like
1:48:18
The violence of this type of combat like when
1:48:20
they shoot up that transport We see it like
1:48:22
go burning down and we cut to the view
1:48:24
from the Star Destroyer Bridge Where
1:48:27
it's just this tiny little like comet streaking
1:48:29
toward the city. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just
1:48:31
it's a great sense of scale The
1:48:34
abstraction of all this the
1:48:37
level like an Admiral Constantine operates out. Yeah
1:48:40
And we do get another moment
1:48:42
sort of reconfirming what the show's been driving towards
1:48:44
a lot this season, which is that To
1:48:48
agree it's almost like it is as we point out Sabine
1:48:50
it is maybe a structural issue that's cropping
1:48:52
up with the show But like Sabine
1:48:54
and Hera are kind of on
1:48:56
a different path than
1:48:58
Ezra and Canaan like Their
1:49:01
responsibilities lie with Phoenix squadron their responsibilities lie
1:49:03
with the with the rebels They
1:49:06
go off to assist the rebel escape and then
1:49:08
they rejoin the fleet once it means like where
1:49:10
are we going? It's not even a question. They're
1:49:12
gonna go be with the rebels Canaan
1:49:14
and Ezra are out on their own on
1:49:17
Jedi business Yeah, and the show
1:49:19
right now has cared more about
1:49:21
Jedi business probably since the series
1:49:23
Right. Well, that's the franchise cares about
1:49:26
Jedi business, right? I think
1:49:28
at its best does a good job of balancing that it's
1:49:30
why Empire Strikes Back is so good right is like half
1:49:33
of that movie is Jedi business the other half is
1:49:36
Asteroids stuff is close is is
1:49:38
Cloud City and all that stuff
1:49:41
rocks. So, you know The
1:49:43
balance can be really off sometimes You
1:49:46
know I will say I don't think
1:49:48
that Sabine and Hera are getting the
1:49:50
love that Han Solo and Leia
1:49:53
get in the original trilogy, you know We'll
1:49:56
see no I mean changes as the show continues, but
1:49:59
so much of their deal is
1:50:01
about their role as it
1:50:03
relates to the rebellion and
1:50:05
like, oh, it kind of always
1:50:08
being in service of the
1:50:12
rebel movement of like Phoenix
1:50:14
Squadron, whereas Canaan
1:50:17
and Ezra
1:50:19
seem to be on a journey
1:50:21
as it like their journeys about
1:50:23
themselves and their relationship
1:50:26
to their
1:50:29
kind of own makings and the
1:50:31
force and the cetera. It's
1:50:35
just such a more individual, like they're
1:50:37
a part of the rebellion, of course,
1:50:39
but it's so much more, it's so
1:50:44
much more like individualized with
1:50:46
them, whereas with Hera and
1:50:48
Sabine and even like Zeb
1:50:50
and Chopper, like it's about
1:50:52
kind of them and the
1:50:55
group and the
1:50:57
rebels that they serve. Yeah. So
1:51:00
it's interesting because like Canaan is
1:51:02
resistant to it. And
1:51:05
in a way, he takes Ezra out
1:51:08
because, you know, Ezra is
1:51:11
following in his footsteps. So
1:51:13
I wonder if there will ever be any tension there where
1:51:15
it's like, not Hera and
1:51:17
Sabine making that decision, it's Ezra
1:51:19
and Canaan needing to make
1:51:21
that decision and like, which way they
1:51:23
will go. Right. Like Yoda telling
1:51:25
Luke to stay on Dagobah and him being like, no, I
1:51:27
need to go help my friend. Right.
1:51:30
Right. So when Canaan and Ezra
1:51:33
get to Dagobah and meet up with Yoda, Yoda can
1:51:35
do the same thing. Which is definitely going to happen.
1:51:37
Which is definitely going to happen. Don't tell anyone who
1:51:39
we're here. We have to see, I promise you. We're
1:51:42
going to see Yoda. We're going to see Yoda. And
1:51:45
when it happens, I'm going to punch a hole in
1:51:47
my TV. We
1:51:50
are going to see Yoda this season. I
1:51:52
feel it in my heart. Wow, this season.
1:51:54
They are not going to go one season
1:51:56
without Yoda. The force is speaking to you.
1:51:58
That's right. And I
1:52:00
believe you one hundred percent the
1:52:02
visionary. Easier or yoda as a
1:52:04
big you as in a row
1:52:06
yeah I don't want I can
1:52:09
go a seat or.yada yada yada
1:52:11
yada had with unhealthy am I
1:52:13
do Those guys. And
1:52:15
I am. I prefer shut up at the
1:52:17
lightsaber work. A know and we were
1:52:19
in the allowing They were there are like
1:52:22
karma and. Be more, not
1:52:24
even gentle Yoga lightsaber works out.
1:52:26
There was some archaeologists motherfucker who
1:52:29
was like a form. Loaded.
1:52:32
On cameo. Noticed
1:52:34
about one hundred percent imperial credits
1:52:36
or drop you a thirty second
1:52:38
messes. I
1:52:41
hate to sizer states.
1:52:43
A fucking size or their
1:52:45
voice it liar. And the hot. And
1:52:50
of the valid same themselves
1:52:52
you know on blueberry only
1:52:55
I am who massage or
1:52:57
with this. I hope they
1:52:59
are. When. I
1:53:02
am the only ones since he was a
1:53:04
Quincy's nameless, faceless, All and league. April
1:53:06
second or whatever and I saw one. Posts
1:53:08
are one of the. Galaxy, that's the that
1:53:10
was like. I really appreciate that
1:53:12
zoo from yesterday because it's so sick of
1:53:15
people. Supposed slew to do. Of
1:53:18
with I assume that in the
1:53:20
neighborhood are fools yoga Somebody be
1:53:22
like the other bringing a bag
1:53:24
sam. Would. Suck you.
1:53:28
Know said that's a bad joke. Is
1:53:31
it was real? we would the booking
1:53:33
our flights. Right now we
1:53:35
would be I might another forth from
1:53:37
a fire. Be outlawed
1:53:39
Smoking dirt. It's of the service have a
1:53:42
mostly I would oppose be like Darwin's can be
1:53:44
in the someone was this entire trip with has
1:53:46
if if if if if if if they should
1:53:48
bring a bath for just. To. Someone
1:53:50
to assist. I'm familiar with a business
1:53:53
for the Amc. A crew. Us
1:53:55
was sooo can. Zoom
1:53:57
In com. Smooth. didn't
1:54:00
Um, yeah. Neil Patrick Harris is banned.
1:54:05
Uh, yeah, anybody we were cool with can come.
1:54:08
We are some other friends. Should we
1:54:10
be looking out to see if, like,
1:54:12
the other Star Cruiser people are,
1:54:14
like, planning their own meetup events?
1:54:17
They are and do and have, right?
1:54:20
Look, here from, from, uh, Hunting Me,
1:54:22
West Virginia, some people met
1:54:25
up and stacked the Saja Rocks. No.
1:54:28
No. You'll miss me with that.
1:54:30
I'm not going to West Virginia to stack Saja
1:54:32
Rocks. No, you don't like this? You don't like
1:54:34
the Saja Rocks? I'm not doing that. Oh, no.
1:54:37
Oh, no. This, this. Anyway.
1:54:40
This is very funny. You know? Anyhow.
1:54:43
This is very funny. This is a very funny
1:54:45
poster. People, it meant a lot
1:54:47
to people. I
1:54:50
wouldn't know what that's like, but, you know. I
1:54:53
would go back and drink some drinks. Wait a
1:54:55
second. March 25th. Guests
1:54:57
looking to get a sip of the
1:54:59
Star Cruiser will soon find drinks from
1:55:01
the shuttered experience at Disneyland
1:55:03
for a limited time. As announced today by
1:55:06
Disneyland, a number of drinks from the Star
1:55:08
Wars Galactic Star Cruiser will make their Disney
1:55:10
Parks debut at August Cantina during the Season
1:55:12
of the Forest event from April 5th through
1:55:14
June 2nd. I have to tell you
1:55:17
guys something. Are you going in today?
1:55:19
Is that where you're going? What are you doing? I'm
1:55:22
not going today, but I'm going on April.
1:55:26
Don't send a day. You're going in April.
1:55:28
I am going in April. I just
1:55:30
thought that thought. I'm going
1:55:32
in April to the Disney
1:55:36
After Dark Star Wars night. Yes.
1:55:40
Why didn't you tell us about this? How
1:55:43
did you tell us about this thing? You guys
1:55:46
want to come? Last
1:55:49
year I was on Disneyland on the day
1:55:51
of because I wanted to... I
1:55:53
like made the board. Right. I didn't
1:55:55
have tickets to the Star Wars night. So like
1:55:57
I was there at like five when those people...
1:56:00
people started showing up, but I was like, ooh. Oh,
1:56:02
Disney had only two. Yeah,
1:56:04
it's only at Disneyland. What? Oh,
1:56:07
I bet it looks so sick. That's literally the thing I said
1:56:09
was, I bet it would be so sick at night. There's
1:56:12
a special like
1:56:14
Spire fireworks show.
1:56:18
Oh, yeah, they announced that they're doing that this
1:56:20
year. Yeah. I don't think I can
1:56:22
make it. The timing sucks so bad. The new
1:56:24
Star Tours, the new Star Tours. Oh,
1:56:26
that's right. The adventures are going
1:56:29
to be in rotation. Sure.
1:56:31
You can go see the Andor Ahsoka stuff,
1:56:34
right? Yeah, Andor Ahsoka and Mandalorian. I
1:56:37
do have tons of flight credits from
1:56:39
very canceled trips from the
1:56:41
end of last year. It's so much cheaper
1:56:43
to fly to Los Angeles and stay somewhere
1:56:45
and go for a day to Disney
1:56:48
than to like do a big Disney vacation, which
1:56:50
we all learned last year. This
1:56:53
is, you know, the ticket prices of this are
1:56:55
expensive. It's $159, which sucks. That's
1:56:58
way better than what we've gotten. Not $5,000.
1:57:03
It was so nightmarish last year.
1:57:05
It was ridiculous. This is totally reasonable. It
1:57:07
was not reasonable, but it's a thing you could save
1:57:09
up for and make that a thing that you want
1:57:11
to do. I totally get it. However.
1:57:14
I think I've
1:57:17
never done one of the After Dark nights.
1:57:21
My understanding is that it's a lot
1:57:23
of photo opportunities. That makes sense. I'm
1:57:25
not like, I'm not going to wait
1:57:28
in line for hours to
1:57:30
like take a photo. I'm just
1:57:32
not, I will just walk by and take
1:57:34
a photo of the thing
1:57:37
and keep walking. So,
1:57:39
but it should be- But
1:57:41
you should get one of these drinks. Yeah,
1:57:44
they do like- Oh, I will- You flip the
1:57:46
snacks and merch and stuff. My plan is to
1:57:48
stay overnight at
1:57:50
Disney so that, and then probably go back to
1:57:52
Disney the next day, just for fun. You
1:57:55
and your hangover. It doesn't come with a full day. Yeah.
1:57:58
It doesn't come with a full day ticket. Only- Like an
1:58:00
after 3 p.m. Ticket. Yeah, I see I
1:58:02
see Yeah,
1:58:05
make them So yeah, I'm
1:58:08
doing that. I'm going I'm Reliving
1:58:10
the dream Do
1:58:15
you get the one nice Dylan it's not on
1:58:17
the list I looked for it. Oh, yeah, what's
1:58:19
what is the Daggo
1:58:21
bus Swamp water session
1:58:27
The fiery Mustafarian which I think someone
1:58:29
got oh You
1:58:32
got that the lava syrup one. Yeah,
1:58:34
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Silver Sea Martini
1:58:37
Which I just don't not like a martini to me at
1:58:39
all This is I'm gonna read this out
1:58:41
loud and this is like the most this is what it was
1:58:44
like to get drinks at Disney Hendrix
1:58:46
Jen minute made lemonade Ginger
1:58:49
syrup honey and mint syrup topped
1:58:51
with a shimmery butterfly pea flower tea,
1:58:53
which I bet tastes like
1:58:55
sugar It's very funny
1:58:57
to do Using and just
1:59:00
putting minute made Lemonade
1:59:04
right after is so funny is wild
1:59:07
Chandrillion chalice Hendrix Jen minute made lemonade.
1:59:09
This is the same drink. Oh But
1:59:12
it's you know wine. It's in a souvenir wine
1:59:15
glass. That's right And
1:59:17
then and then the Mustafarian but in
1:59:19
a chandelion orb glass where you keep
1:59:21
that's what you got So
1:59:26
these are there's not that many session
1:59:34
Oga the session is minute made wild
1:59:37
strawberry flavor Yogurt filled boba
1:59:40
and strawberry grape candy pebbles
1:59:42
with a bursting dried fruit mixture I feel
1:59:45
like we're learning a lot of None
1:59:48
of my obsession
1:59:53
One minute made lemonade
1:59:55
strawberry flavor yogurt filled
1:59:57
boba I
2:00:00
love that. I love the yogurt filled boba so
2:00:02
whimsical That's weird
2:00:05
every time I thought of an but I don't
2:00:07
know. Yeah, I don't it's just it's just the
2:00:09
thing I it's all too Too
2:00:12
much for me generally speaking. Yeah,
2:00:14
I'll say the the the
2:00:16
one that smacks is the fuzzy Tom
2:00:18
Tom Which has like that? It
2:00:22
has like that peppercorn foam on it. So
2:00:24
make your lips numb while you drink it
2:00:26
that sure that that was good And
2:00:29
the Jedi mind trick is all right. Yeah So
2:00:33
everything I like in this episode I find kind of funny As
2:00:37
Kane and Ezra flying off to low
2:00:40
fall and Cairns like
2:00:42
no, I don't understand what you're going through Ezra You
2:00:45
know my master, you know, I didn't
2:00:48
have I didn't know my parents I just had
2:00:50
my master but as he's doing that line reading
2:00:52
I swear to God he's doing Vin Diesel in
2:00:56
fast and the furious I
2:00:58
swear to God it's like the same. Well, I
2:01:01
was like He doesn't
2:01:03
usually drop into this lower register. I know
2:01:05
it's like a lumber talk, but also it's
2:01:07
so much Dums
2:01:12
Like telling of the story of his father's
2:01:14
death in the first
2:01:16
movie like it's getting kind of rumbly and
2:01:18
choked up Mmm, it's
2:01:20
very funny. I did not pick that up, but I can
2:01:22
I can imagine it And
2:01:25
that's like, you know Neither
2:01:28
did any of the other Jedi my man. That's
2:01:30
the Jedi Jedi didn't get to know
2:01:32
their parents. Yeah, that's true Perhaps
2:01:36
there's something wrong with that That's part of the thing that I'd love to
2:01:38
see the show get to too is like I
2:01:40
want to hear Canaan and Ahsoka talk about
2:01:42
The Jedi at some point, you know, yeah
2:01:46
I think that there is something, you know, you
2:01:48
have sort of the weak Structure we've
2:01:51
talked about it. I don't want to just
2:01:53
hit those notes again but I think we didn't say
2:01:55
explicitly was like part of Part
2:01:57
of what the arc structure of Clone Wars
2:01:59
got us was the ability
2:02:01
for an arc
2:02:04
to have up and down beats in
2:02:06
terms of action content versus
2:02:09
tension content and arguments and
2:02:11
drama. Every
2:02:13
Clone Wars episode probably had a lightsaber drawn at
2:02:16
some point or a droid get into some hijinks
2:02:18
or something. But the fact that
2:02:20
you could do three episodes on a single
2:02:22
topic, even
2:02:24
though they were often self-contained, meant that you
2:02:27
could have the one that was like the
2:02:29
war episode and then a different one that
2:02:31
was like two characters lost
2:02:34
behind enemy lines or trapped in
2:02:36
a small space and like arguing
2:02:38
for 21 minutes or for 18 of
2:02:41
21 minutes and then they get saved in the final three minutes,
2:02:43
right? And
2:02:45
I think we it feels like we lose
2:02:47
that here a little bit because every episode
2:02:49
so far has felt like it needs a
2:02:52
six minute action beat somewhere in
2:02:55
the start or the end, if not multiple times
2:02:57
throughout. And it's not like
2:02:59
it's funny because like they're both cartoons for children. But
2:03:03
you can kind of feel a shift in. That's
2:03:06
why I'm kind of putting it up to the structure of
2:03:08
arcs versus one offs
2:03:11
is that like the arcs would open that
2:03:13
up. But I don't know.
2:03:15
I just love to see a few more quieter episodes. Certain
2:03:17
beats have to happen in the 23
2:03:19
minute run time that like Clone Wars, sometimes for ill
2:03:22
would just be like, what if we don't have a
2:03:24
beat where you think a beat should be and that
2:03:26
didn't always pan out. And it didn't always pan out,
2:03:28
but you at least have that feeling of like, I
2:03:31
think we talked about this with Clone Wars before that,
2:03:33
you know, if you watch, I would talk about OG
2:03:35
Gundam again here, like every Gundam episode had
2:03:37
a fight in it because they were trying to move
2:03:39
product. They're trying to sell
2:03:41
toys of the Gundam. And this was
2:03:44
before Gunpla, this was before models blew up
2:03:46
and it became even more central. This was
2:03:48
just like regular ass toys. But you needed
2:03:50
that right. That was part of the scheme
2:03:52
was we're going to put fights in every
2:03:54
episode because we are trying to move merchandise
2:03:56
and children's action shows generally have that as
2:03:58
as like. Thing that you can count on
2:04:00
every episode of it is gonna have someone
2:04:02
pull out the sword or the gun or
2:04:04
whatever it is I don't you
2:04:06
know, I know what we're here for we're
2:04:08
here for this kind of sci-fi genre action-adventure
2:04:10
show I'm not complaining about it
2:04:12
in general But I do think that
2:04:15
the structure of arcs the lack thereof
2:04:17
now means we get it every fucking
2:04:19
time And it can
2:04:21
be a little tiring Yeah,
2:04:24
I kind of a nerd beats like the chase through
2:04:26
right Lothal again, which like having
2:04:29
them revisit the city and seeing like the devastation that's
2:04:31
been inflicted since they went there and the fact that
2:04:33
like Kind of a fit
2:04:35
of peak the Imperial level his family home
2:04:39
Like all that's cool and then it's
2:04:42
oh that that little fuzzy friend
2:04:44
just scampered away with our with our lead
2:04:48
It is funny that you know, no Cain
2:04:50
and I can't track the lock cat using the
2:04:52
force. I put a tracker on him That's a
2:04:54
good bit that is that is funny especially the
2:04:56
way the way it came is like damn we
2:04:58
have a time master here But
2:05:06
Yeah, the chase the chase is kind of
2:05:08
dull but it does get us to where
2:05:10
we want to go Which is as rotating
2:05:12
that leap of faith as
2:05:14
they're being held at bay by the sniper and
2:05:16
just saying I'm His
2:05:20
parents names the Bridgers as a
2:05:22
frame and Mirror
2:05:24
mirror mirror I
2:05:27
forget Sorry Yeah
2:05:33
Yeah, and then you're that it's Clancy Brown
2:05:36
Explaining that that he did know them
2:05:39
Funny detail here. This guy's the ex-governor.
2:05:42
Yeah, he was the reporter of
2:05:44
the Bridgers. Yeah maybe
2:05:46
not enough I Mean
2:05:49
he got put in jail too. Yeah, he was the
2:05:52
last governor of the
2:05:54
place before the Empire brought the
2:05:56
hammer down I guess yeah Okay
2:06:00
But yeah, they talk
2:06:02
about how we didn't see a
2:06:04
body though is what I'm saying. I mean that is
2:06:06
true That is true. I
2:06:08
had the same thought of like oh Boy,
2:06:11
are they gonna really secretly be alive out there? We
2:06:13
never saw the body. This guy just told us this
2:06:15
can we trust this guy? Is
2:06:17
this gonna be what the rest of the show is etc. I Like
2:06:21
that they're dead 10
2:06:23
I would like this to just be over. Do you
2:06:26
know what I mean? Yeah, uh-huh I do know I
2:06:28
would like the rest of the series to be just
2:06:30
like oh his parents are dead and he's That's
2:06:33
fine. Like that's part of who that's part of who he is,
2:06:35
but it's not like we need We
2:06:39
don't that miss that doesn't need
2:06:41
to be a motivating. We've like
2:06:43
it's just there. No, I'm glad
2:06:46
Sorry to those people. I'm glad they're dead They
2:06:51
were alive I'd been happy with that if they met if it
2:06:53
was like oh they're alive and there and He's
2:06:56
gotten them somewhere safe or with their
2:06:58
characters. I'm a guffin out there like
2:07:00
the Mulder's sister. That's like Some
2:07:03
damn to get the story of what happened like
2:07:05
no one cares anymore. No one cares anymore, right?
2:07:08
Unless it's done in like how
2:07:10
and or sister Like
2:07:14
in that way is interesting except that
2:07:16
like it's not like You
2:07:19
know, but there's that's gonna be
2:07:21
only been 12 episodes of and
2:07:23
or so far Right, right. We have
2:07:25
another like 30 something of this
2:07:28
show. Yeah, you know, yeah but
2:07:30
we don't need another bait and switch after
2:07:33
there was already like a Season
2:07:36
cliffhanger, right? What's
2:07:38
the fate of the Bridgers? Situation
2:07:40
and yeah, that is already
2:07:45
Who is Luke's father is already
2:07:47
that's you know what I mean we don't need another
2:07:52
Another one of these mysteries about where the
2:07:54
parents are who the parents are, you know,
2:07:56
yeah, I guess that's kind of yeah. Yeah How
2:08:00
do you think this? No
2:08:03
Austin's had a horrible thought Acolyte
2:08:07
is going to confirm some shit
2:08:09
about Anakin that Anakin is
2:08:11
some like Sith Magic
2:08:15
better. Just her bullshit better. Just right
2:08:17
bullshit Magic thing and again
2:08:19
doesn't have a father right we all know this
2:08:21
anything doesn't have a father Yeah
2:08:30
I'll give you though. Mary was born
2:08:32
without sin. That's the immaculate conception. Oh It's
2:08:36
fine. Don't worry about it science. No, you're
2:08:38
good. I get how you get the Frankenstein
2:08:40
monsters Jesus You
2:08:49
know, I'm not there either anymore but I
2:08:53
am but I am a world-class pedant. So I
2:08:55
am gonna cool you on it Cuz
2:08:58
I'm an asshole The
2:09:01
point is What if they do
2:09:03
what if that's what acolytes big turn ends up being?
2:09:06
Where it's like a long game to put
2:09:08
Anakin into the world via
2:09:11
some distant past Sith. No
2:09:15
No, I don't want evil evil Casting
2:09:20
it out It
2:09:23
out loud because it hit me like you're like
2:09:25
the dream that Ezra has at the beginning of
2:09:28
this episode Cuz
2:09:30
I was thinking like if we're talking about like we talked about oh
2:09:32
could play G's be there or could so-and-so be there you
2:09:34
know if someone says the words like those
2:09:38
who say the words their ways to conception
2:09:40
but like You know, I
2:09:43
don't think whoever owns I don't think Disney
2:09:45
but also whoever in the future own Star
2:09:47
Wars for all time will
2:09:49
be able to resist the idea of
2:09:52
Filling in the blank of who was Anakin
2:09:54
Skywalker's father and or was
2:09:56
it a Sith? maneuver manipulator
2:10:00
No more family no more family no
2:10:03
more no more No,
2:10:07
just no more adding to the Skywalker
2:10:09
family no one else can be in
2:10:11
that family it's closed it's no
2:10:13
more No application
2:10:16
done. No Anything that
2:10:18
you try to imply about Anakin you then
2:10:20
have to imply about Luke
2:10:23
and Leia yeah, and I understand
2:10:25
that they were very much disrespected
2:10:27
the Obi-Wan show So, you know, everything's fair game,
2:10:29
I suppose but Come
2:10:33
on, you can't do that. You just can't
2:10:35
do that. Don't do that. No, they
2:10:37
won't do it But
2:10:40
the point is Yeah,
2:10:43
so like they died under mysterious circumstances They
2:10:45
were just like they went back
2:10:47
to save more people and they didn't they didn't make it
2:10:49
son And so
2:10:51
that's that's what we know about the the
2:10:53
Bridgers I'm Something did hit
2:10:56
me off since that's where you're talking about like the
2:10:58
possibly the Ezra could go bad that
2:11:00
shot of him looking out at the twin moons
2:11:02
of Lothal
2:11:05
yeah, like the
2:11:07
inversion. I know Luke. He's
2:11:09
born on the same day. Uh-huh These
2:11:13
were in again, this is only for a
2:11:15
rebels recon. He's born like two days later,
2:11:17
but it's not they're they're very similar He's
2:11:19
just a little younger than the twins But
2:11:22
he's born on the day the Empire is declared
2:11:24
correct, yes and You
2:11:27
know, we've got the yeah just
2:11:30
the fact that you know, he's born on a planet with
2:11:32
the you know, the Imperial
2:11:34
occupation outer rim to a
2:11:37
twin. Yeah binary moons
2:11:39
Yeah, yeah, and and suddenly it
2:11:42
is like is this gonna is he gonna be
2:11:44
the version who goes bad at some point? This
2:11:46
is gonna go horribly wrong. This is like a
2:11:49
Could all the all the pieces are lined up this could
2:11:51
have been a Luke Skywalker, but no I
2:11:55
think my gut is no because I think we
2:11:57
would know it because we would see a bunch
2:11:59
of dark I think we would have
2:12:01
by osmosis got in a lot
2:12:03
of like frankly, we would have gotten a lot
2:12:05
of like 20 year
2:12:08
old hot evil Ezra fan art in
2:12:10
our lives by now we would have
2:12:12
seen that by Like
2:12:16
there's a lot of fan art of like
2:12:18
hot Anakin Evil
2:12:20
hot Anakin out there. This is the truth.
2:12:22
I'm aware. I'm aware But
2:12:26
we don't think we get that with Ezra
2:12:28
I Which which
2:12:31
is not Textual, right?
2:12:33
It could be that he becomes evil
2:12:35
and it's boring and no one cares
2:12:37
And so there's not that sort of
2:12:39
like second someone always cares about Someone's
2:12:43
always like you're so he's
2:12:45
so damaged right exactly a hundred percent. I
2:12:47
don't know who would say that personally I
2:12:49
don't know anybody who would that
2:12:51
would be an attractive thing for I don't know
2:12:54
anybody my name certainly But I do think it
2:12:56
would What
2:12:59
are you? That
2:13:01
your evil Damn
2:13:05
it, that's really good. I can put it
2:13:07
in the in the Crying
2:13:11
oh my god, I need
2:13:13
that for the show notes, please. Thank you.
2:13:15
Yeah, I'm sure it's for the show notes
2:13:20
Damn Finding
2:13:23
it That can take your
2:13:25
time. You don't do you know? It's
2:13:27
yeah, it's it's it's quick to quick to grab
2:13:30
I have it in the safe Link
2:13:32
better safe place. Yeah, like a folder with
2:13:34
other image. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's good to
2:13:37
have Throw away
2:13:39
things anybody looking horrified in the
2:13:41
background of Natalie shot Did
2:13:49
y'all notice rider as odd he's gun is
2:13:51
a modified version of what we've seen before
2:13:54
Well, do you remember somebody else had a class here in
2:13:56
the collection of golfs? I
2:14:00
believe in you fuck hold on
2:14:02
uh-huh. Yo Rob is going into the
2:14:05
mind palace. I Believe
2:14:10
you can get here who is the
2:14:12
most likely person in Star Wars to
2:14:15
just have an AK Oh,
2:14:19
we've noted this before no no
2:14:21
more more likely than hondo who's
2:14:24
the realist? I Are
2:14:30
two would know I'm not gonna get
2:14:32
it it had been no cadmains
2:14:34
good good, but cadmains to cowboy coded,
2:14:36
you know saw
2:14:39
in stela I
2:14:43
couldn't remember if the under on had them
2:14:45
running around with a case with a case.
2:14:47
Yeah It's specifically the gun that that she
2:14:49
has that stela has with the with like
2:14:51
the sniper scope and all that So
2:14:54
that's a good sign. You know But
2:14:57
I still don't know what I want to trust this guy's face is
2:14:59
weird a little it's like
2:15:01
tall and like big So I don't
2:15:04
grow on me. I'm sure but
2:15:07
we I Was
2:15:10
not getting a returning character from this guy. I believe
2:15:12
this is a returning character Yeah,
2:15:16
when I joined the rebellion right he's
2:15:19
already seems like you know, yeah I
2:15:21
mean low thought is no longer on their blockade,
2:15:23
right? Which is the other thing we kind of move
2:15:25
past is the fleet that comes for them on their
2:15:27
second base is the fleet that Was not low thaw
2:15:29
which hits one other big note here, right? Which is
2:15:32
they do not have a real base What
2:15:34
they have is will be on a planet with a
2:15:36
civilian population for a little while and then the the
2:15:38
Imperials will show up make life hell
2:15:40
for the locals and we'll have to leave and That
2:15:43
is not a good way to do this A
2:15:46
thing that someone noted in one of the
2:15:48
rebels rehounds this week was hey You
2:15:51
might note that by the time we get to
2:15:53
the original trilogy The rebels are
2:15:55
on places like Gavin for and ha which
2:15:57
do not have civilian populations. This is part
2:16:00
Why is that they learn
2:16:03
that their presence is a curse,
2:16:05
right? That they cannot
2:16:07
safely fight for
2:16:09
people from where people live. And
2:16:11
so there's a purposeful decision to
2:16:13
change that, right? So
2:16:16
we'll continue. And that's what this whole, this whole season has been them
2:16:18
being like, we need a base, we need a base. And
2:16:20
so I suspect that will be the back half
2:16:22
of it. And that base's name will be Yavin.
2:16:25
Maybe, right? Yeah. I'm
2:16:27
not sure because I don't know if they'll be there this
2:16:30
early yet. Maybe they will. I'll
2:16:32
find out. Um,
2:16:35
I'd like to find the same with his parents. It's
2:16:37
sweet. The sort of send off, you know, the, the,
2:16:39
the vision of his parents and the, the, the letting
2:16:41
go. Yeah. Um, cool. Yeah. Cool
2:16:43
to see the city before the Imperials
2:16:45
came and transformed it. And
2:16:48
we do get another, we get a shot
2:16:50
earlier this episode of what the city looks
2:16:52
like now when they first kind of arrive
2:16:54
to Lothal, which is like, like you said
2:16:56
earlier, kind of low domes, lots of stubby
2:16:58
buildings, you know, there's maybe one
2:17:00
tall tower left, but before it was this
2:17:02
kind of gleaming city on the hill, like
2:17:04
not literally on a hill, it's actually near a
2:17:06
bay, but big, like you said,
2:17:08
Wizard of Oz style towers, you know, so
2:17:10
tall that some of them reach off the
2:17:12
screen, you know, they reach past the top
2:17:14
of the shot composition. It's
2:17:17
really beautiful. Um, uh,
2:17:19
and that ain't it anymore. And it was really fun
2:17:21
to see that. And,
2:17:24
uh, yeah, we, we
2:17:26
end the episode with, with him sort of along with
2:17:28
Canaan. Oh, important moment. He gets
2:17:30
to hug Canaan Canaan. When, when he
2:17:32
learns about the death for sure, um,
2:17:35
we get them hugging and I think let
2:17:37
Jedi hug it's important. Let them
2:17:39
hug. You know, good for them. Yeah. Mm
2:17:42
hmm. Star
2:17:45
Wars Rebels. Are
2:17:47
we going to three episodes next time? Sure.
2:17:50
All right. I think three, three, three, two makes
2:17:52
sense. Yeah. I think that's what we can do.
2:17:54
So that is a princess
2:17:58
on Lothal. The
2:18:01
protector of Concord Dawn and
2:18:04
Legends of the Lassat. The
2:18:07
protector of Concord Dawn, you
2:18:09
say? We know that phrase, right?
2:18:12
We know Concord Dawn. What,
2:18:14
Concord? Yeah, it's the moon of Mandalore, right?
2:18:17
That's right. That's just something
2:18:19
I know. I don't know
2:18:21
what knowledge, but... Damn. Well, we
2:18:23
know the one previous thing, which
2:18:26
is, it came
2:18:28
up in the box. I think
2:18:30
it's tied to the fake
2:18:32
identity that Obi-Wan
2:18:35
takes when he's undercover in the
2:18:37
Q-Bot episode. His
2:18:40
thing is he says he's like
2:18:43
a bounty hunter, Rako Hardeen specifically.
2:18:45
You remember Rako Hardeen? Yes, it
2:18:48
was the marksman of Concord Dawn,
2:18:50
the Mandalorian moon or planet or
2:18:52
whatever. So, yeah. Was
2:18:54
that also the planet that all of the
2:18:56
evil, violent Mandalores got
2:18:59
pushed to? We thought that, but I think that that
2:19:01
is not the case. Death Watch,
2:19:03
I don't believe that that was... We saw that at the
2:19:05
time, but I think we were wrong about that. So,
2:19:09
yeah. Those are
2:19:11
the three. Princess on Lothal. I wonder
2:19:13
who that princess could be. Protector
2:19:15
of Concord Dawn and then
2:19:17
Legends of the Lassat. So finally,
2:19:19
you know, we've been talking a
2:19:21
lot of shit about not getting
2:19:23
good Sabine episodes, not getting good
2:19:25
Hera episodes. No
2:19:27
one said we're not getting an observe, but I
2:19:29
guess we're finally going to get a Zeb episode.
2:19:31
Legends of the Lassat. Oh, yeah, that's true. I
2:19:33
included him when I said that he doesn't get
2:19:36
enough stuff. His
2:19:38
stuff is more about, you know, serving
2:19:41
the Republic. Did
2:19:43
you turn into a trade day? I
2:19:48
thought she turned into a Loafcat, honestly.
2:19:52
I want one. I want a Loafcat.
2:19:54
They're so cute. So cute. I
2:19:57
missed the figure that lady had when we were the Halcyon.
2:20:00
Remember that? She had like a little
2:20:02
cat toy. Oh yeah. Well,
2:20:09
we're going to three and with that we've
2:20:11
reached the end of another episode. I'll just say
2:20:13
this, Zev has a lane. It's dirt
2:20:15
bag uncle. And I think he's been operating really well in
2:20:17
that lane. And I think that's why maybe we haven't been,
2:20:20
I don't feel like he's been neglected because he's just
2:20:22
like, he's not such an integral part of the energy
2:20:24
of the show every week. But it's not like, it
2:20:27
doesn't feel like they're trying to figure
2:20:29
out what to do with Zev. They know exactly what to do with Zev.
2:20:32
Now what they've done with Zev maybe
2:20:34
doesn't entirely feel like I can
2:20:36
easily imagine him in a story where it's like,
2:20:39
let's dig into that genocide, huh? That
2:20:41
feels like, we had that, that
2:20:44
laugh line in the episodes last
2:20:46
time. I can't
2:20:49
die this way on the last of my kind
2:20:51
as he's Winnie the Pooh'd in an air duct.
2:20:54
You know, good stuff,
2:20:56
bit odd. But
2:20:58
anyway, we'll see how Zev's big day out
2:21:00
goes next
2:21:03
time on A More Civilized Age. Our
2:21:06
show is produced by Riccardo Contreras
2:21:08
and supported by listeners at patreon.com/civilized.
2:21:11
Next time out, we're going to watch the
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three episodes. Until then, please rate and review
2:21:15
us on your podcast platform choice. And remember,
2:21:17
I don't remember what she says. Allie just
2:21:20
hates Ezra's guts. He's
2:21:22
on site. He sucks.
2:21:26
Get him a vice cream.
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