On this episode, join Bruce and Josie for an interview with Dr. Rosemary O'Leary from the University of Kansas. Dr. O'Leary talks about her experience as a public manager and how she decided to pursue a career in public administration. She also talks about the need to appreciate other areas and methodologies of research and the importance of asking questions before committing to a project.

References from the Show:

• Rosemary O'Leary. (2019). The Ethics of Dissent: Managing Guerilla Government

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