In this fourth episode of Access Control, a podcast providing practical security advice for startups, Developer Relations Engineer at Teleport Ben Arent chats with [Adam Baldwin](https://www.linkedin.com/in/evilpacket/), aka [evilpacket](https://twitter.com/adam_baldwin), Offensive Security at Auth0. Adam was previously the VP of security at npm and founder of ^Lift Security, an application and penetration testing company focused on the JavaScript Ecosystem. Adam is a two-time DEFCON Black Badge holder.