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Maturity is achieved when a person
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postpones immediate pleasures for
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long-term values. A
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quote by Rabbi Joshua Liebman.
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Star Trek was an attempt to say
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humanity will reach maturity and wisdom
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on the day that it begins not just to
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tolerate but to take a special delight
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in differences in ideas and differences
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in life forms.
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A quote by Gene Roddenberry, the
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creator of Star Trek.
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What is maturity? Let's
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contemplate that, shall we? Let's
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contemplate it together.
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Have you noticed that some people are mature
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and others, in fact most, are
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immature? Surely you've
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noticed this in your short period
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on this planet. Have you ever wondered
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what makes that difference? And
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why would anyone want to be mature? And
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what is the process for how to become mature?
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What does that even mean? What does that look
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like? I'm
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going to give you an extensive list here of what
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constitutes maturity and immaturity. But
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I also want to help you, not just to give you the answers,
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but to help you to contemplate this stuff for yourself.
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Because it's not obvious what maturity is.
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It's difficult to define. I had to spend
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many hours contemplating it, explicating
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it to myself so that I could
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share it here with you.
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But let's start off our inquiry here
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by acknowledging that you don't know
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what maturity is. I
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mean, you know what that word means. You can look it
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up in the dictionary. But what does it really look
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like to be a mature human being? What
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is that process? And what kind of behaviors
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constitute that? That's
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not obvious. A
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lot of immature people don't know.
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So how do you solve this problem if you don't know? Where do
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you go to get the answers?
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Where am I getting the answers? Well, I'm contemplating.
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This is a process I've explained in the past. Go watch my
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videos that explain how to contemplate,
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how to contemplate using a journal and so
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forth, how to ask powerful questions.
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So what you do is you start just wondering
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and contemplating from scratch. It's
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always good just to begin from scratch because
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answers coming from other people can distort
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your thinking and already they will skew and bias
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your mind into thinking along some sort
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of predefined direction towards some
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kind of ideology, dogma, groupthink,
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that sort of thing. It's always good to just think independently
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from scratch about these things.
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Then you can, you have a chance
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to generate some original answers
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and then you can later compare notes with
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what other people have said online.
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So here's a question. What are some of the clearest examples
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of maturity that you can think of?
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Surely you've run across people who are mature
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in your life and you've run across many who are immature.
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But then if you look at their behaviors, what is it actually
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that made you say, oh, that's a very immature person
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or that's a very mature person
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or that's a book written by a very mature person that
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contains a lot of very mature
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wisdom about life?
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Or you see some celebrity on TV behaving
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immaturely. What
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does that look like? What are they doing?
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So
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the most powerful way that I know how to contemplate, and
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I'm teaching you here how to contemplate.
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This is a contemplation exercise. I want you to actually try
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some of this stuff.
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But the way that I start to contemplate a topic
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from completely from scratch is
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I ask myself, okay, what are some examples of
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the thing that I'm working on? Because if I'm working on some
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abstraction like maturity, that's a very
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abstract concept, maturity, what the hell does that even mean?
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So
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you have to make
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it concrete with examples. So
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I pull up in my mind at least one
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example of the most immature person I know and
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the most mature person I know then I just ask myself questions
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like well what's the difference between them?
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Who do you know or have met who is obviously
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immature? In what
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ways do they behave that make you think so? This
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is stuff I want you to actually contemplate.
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Pause and contemplate this.
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Write down some answers.
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Now maturity is not a matter
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of age.
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Many adults and old people can be immature. Although
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it's interesting because generally speaking the
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more
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people age the more mature they become. So
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there is some correlation between age
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and maturity but it's by no means a perfect correlation.
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Because
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of course one of the things we say is that we commonly
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say that children are immature. That's the
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difference supposedly between a child and adult. The
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child's immature and adult is mature. So
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that's another way to you know another angle from which to
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kind of look at this issue is what's
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the difference between adult and children? Adults
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and children. Fundamentally
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what's the difference there? What are they doing differently?
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How is the child behaving immaturely
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and how is the adult behaving
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maturely? Now of course a lot
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of adults these days are children. So
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you have to be careful with that. You can't just assume that every adult
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is mature. Some children are more mature than some adults.
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But generally speaking this is the case.
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And then that makes you wonder well but
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why?
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Why does age make one more
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mature? What does age have to do with
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it?
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Even though it's not a perfect correlation.
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And what does it look like and what does it mean
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to mature with it? age? What
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is doing the maturing there? And
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why are children generally immature? Why aren't
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children born mature? These
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are like very fundamental questions.
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maturity is not a binary. So
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it's not an on off switch. It's a spectrum. Of
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course,
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you can have more and more and more levels of
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maturity. And
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you can have a mixed bag, you can have a person who's mature
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in many ways, but then immature in certain other areas
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of life. A lot of times people have imbalanced
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lopsided development, for example, someone could be mature
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in many different
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ways, but then immature sexually,
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immature in their relationships,
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immature in their spiritual development,
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or in their
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understanding of spirituality, metaphysics,
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epistemology, or
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immature morally.
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So
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just because someone is generally mature
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doesn't mean they have all their bases covered. In fact,
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most likely, you're going to have at
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least one or two areas where you're
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really struggling, and you're strongly deficient.
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Then also, you have to wonder what are the costs
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of being mature or becoming
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mature?
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Is maturity something that you're just born
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with? There are some people who are genetically
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more mature than other people?
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Or is maturity something you have to develop over time?
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And if you're going to develop it over time, first of all,
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why would you want to? And second
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of all, what's
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the cost? Because supposedly, if
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it was just all upside and no downside, wouldn't
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everybody be developing maturity, then
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everybody would be mature. And if you look around in our
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society and our culture, actually, most
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people are very immature.
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How come? But
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then you to wonder so
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then if there are costs to being mature
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does that mean I should just
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stay immature but then what are the costs of staying
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immature
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and which costs are greater
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so these are all questions to get your mind jogging
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and thinking and I should I really want you to contemplate
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this on your own but you know since
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I want to provide you with some value here in this in
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this episode let me give you some extensive
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lists of my own conclusions
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from my own contemplations on these questions so
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list number one is what is maturity first
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and foremost at the top of my list is taking
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on responsibility
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versus blaming others
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this is like
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the quick litmus test
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for gauging someone's maturity
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an immature person is going to blame somebody
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else they're
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not going to take ownership over situations
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they need other people to go them into doing
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things and taking ownership whereas
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a mature person
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takes on the responsibility willingly
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consciously
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doesn't wait around for others to
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to do it for them
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doesn't need some sort of extrinsic prodding
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either by humans or by nature
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very irresponsible people immature people
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what they do is they just they wait for
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reality to get
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so dire and bad that then they're
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just forced to do a thing
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whereas the hallmark of maturity
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is that you can motivate yourself
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to do something you know you should be doing
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the right thing so to speak
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without having to
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be in pain
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and suffering from external circumstances
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like for example going
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down
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broken, running completely out of money.
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That would be an immature person's response
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to the financial situation, right? It's like, I'm
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just gonna spend all my money and then
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I'm only gonna worry about
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running out of money once I'm out of money, but then the problem
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is it's too late. It's very difficult to then
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do anything about that situation, right? A mature person
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will worry about their money situation
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long before they ever run out of money and therefore
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they never will. And
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they take responsibility for that.
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Maturity is knowing that you can act like a child,
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but consciously choosing not to. It's
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doing the right thing at the right time rather
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than putting it off,
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which requires discipline.
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Immature people are not able to discipline themselves
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and they put stuff off and they put stuff off and they
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put stuff off and they don't do the right thing
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at the right time and most of the time,
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most of us know the right thing to do
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and the right time to do it, but
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we're just so irresponsible and
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immature that we find
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ways to avoid it.
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So maturity is letting go of that
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sort of avoidance mechanism
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that is there in the ego mind.
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It's taking on emotionally difficult
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things in life,
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doing things that are challenging and
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life will present you with many challenges.
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To live the good life, you have to take on these
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emotionally difficult tasks or
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what you can do is you can play avoidance games, which
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is what the immature person does.
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So maturity is saying no to those
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kind of avoidance games. Maturity
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also means work ethic, not
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expecting shortcuts, being
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willing to work towards
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certain higher values that you have.
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So one of the hallmarks of an immature
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person is that they're lazy and they don't wanna work.
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towards the things that are good for them or
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that they want. You might want
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something, but then when you find out the work
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that it takes to get it, you're like,
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I would rather just sit it on the couch and
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play video games and smoke weed and jerk off.
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The mature person understands
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that working
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for the things that you really value, this builds
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character in you.
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This is not something that should be avoided. It
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is not the ideal situation where
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you get everything you want in life the easy way
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through shortcuts and it all works out and
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there's no challenge. The
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mature person doesn't even want that kind of life, you see. The
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immature person thinks that that's the ideal life. And
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then the immature person whines and complains about
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how, oh, well, why does life
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have to be so difficult?
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Whereas the mature person understands that what makes
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life meaningful
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at all is that you have to work for these things that
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you truly value, that they're not easy. And
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if they were easy and you can get them just by
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snapping your fingers and people just gave them to you, then
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they wouldn't be worth anything.
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And then you wouldn't really want them.
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The reason you want them is because they're
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rare and the reason they're rare is because you've got
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to work for it. So
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I like to judge people's character
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by looking at what is their work ethic.
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Are they the kind of people that like to avoid work at
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all costs and do the bare minimum amount of
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work?
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This tells you almost everything you know about a person's
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character
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right there.
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That's not a serious human being.
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There is no good lifestyle. I mean, like
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I don't mean lifestyle.
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I mean, living the good life.
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This is something
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a little bit more deeper than just lifestyle.
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But this this concept I've
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talked about before living the good life. There is no living
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the good life and having it easy Nobody
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who lives the good life has it easy Because
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you can't live the good life just by getting lucky and getting
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much of money. That's not going to produce the good life for
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you and
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a mature person understands this and
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That these challenges that life confronts you
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with that. This is actually a character
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building exercise and opportunity
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And that's really the point of life
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So
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what's the point in trying to run away from it or avoid
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it?
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To be mature is to face the
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challenges of life gracefully
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Sometimes life gets extremely challenging
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That's when you're really tested and that's
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when the immature person will crumble and
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the mature person will
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Demonstrate his
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or her true character facing
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that challenge rather than running away from it
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Now, of course, it doesn't mean that you're gonna succeed
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or do it perfectly
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but at least the
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willingness to take on that challenge
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and To give
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it your best Maturity
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is also a sense of duty Duty
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to others to your community to
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mankind and even
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beyond that to the entire universe
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Your life is about something more than just
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Selfishly trying to entertain
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yourself or amuse yourself
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Maturity is the ability to sacrifice
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for higher values Which
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of course requires having a good discernment
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of what are the higher values and That's not always
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easy because a lot of times people get confused and they Think
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of higher value things as money or sex
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or something like that, success, fame,
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that those become traps. So the
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ability to discern what is a higher value, what's
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not a higher value, those can be counterintuitive.
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And it's also the ability to commit because
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to live a life to the higher
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values that you have, you're going to have to make certain commitments
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and stick with those over long periods of time.
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This is not something you can achieve with short term thinking.
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As I was contemplating this question of what
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is maturity, this following
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anecdote came to mind
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and I was just thinking recently about
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how having
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a child is
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one of the greatest responsibilities you can
16:53
take on in life, having a child.
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It'll change your whole life. Even though I don't have
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children, it's obvious to me that this is
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how it works. You just think about
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it for a little bit. You don't really appreciate
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the responsibility your parents took on until
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you're much older. The
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kind of responsibility they had raising you, especially
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if you had decent parents who weren't
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completely immature and they were there for you,
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they weren't negligent parents, they
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didn't run away or anything like that. If they were
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there for you and they worked for you and they raised
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you reasonably well,
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you
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have to get into your late 30s and 40s
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to start to
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appreciate just
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the enormity of the task that your parents
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had to raise you well
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and how much they sacrificed and what kind
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of enormous responsibility took from them and
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the kind of enormous maturity it took from them, even
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if they weren't perfectly mature and they did immature
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stuff, of course.
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That's a given, but nevertheless,
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compare to who they
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used to be before they had you.
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You don't even know what your parents were like before they had
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you how irresponsible and immature
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they were
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Your birth made them a lot more mature
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They take you wild realize that At
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least you know in in in most
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cases of course there's Examples
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of very bad parenting and very immature parenting.
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So maybe maybe you got unlucky but
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I Submit to you the following consider that the
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day that your child is born if you ever
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have a child
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You will realize and
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in that day
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your whole life will change because you will realize
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Holy shit. My life is no longer
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primarily about serving myself
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Now I have to be a responsible adult
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for the sake of someone else And
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Then later when your child is crying
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You know when the when your child is 10 years old or something
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your child is crying But you're very
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tired You had a long day at work and you're just you
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just come home after 10 hours of working and now
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you turn on the TV You just want to relax for a little bit
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before you go to bed You're
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dead tired and then your child
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is there crying in the other room You
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have two options there you can keep watching your TV
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and just tune the child out or
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You can get up and attend to your child
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That would be the mature option
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And that's sacrifice you're sacrificing for
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something higher
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something beyond you
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You're living for something beyond you
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So consider how you would handle
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that kind of situation imagine
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you had a child tomorrow Would
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you be mature enough to handle?
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Taking care of that child because see taking
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care of that child means you have to set all your personal
19:50
issues aside You know your personal sexual
19:52
cravings your desire to have fun your
19:54
desire to do drugs and smoke weed and do psychedelics
19:57
Your desire to slack off and to go partying
19:59
clubbing all this kind of stuff this
20:02
would all
20:02
this would all have to take us you know a back
20:04
seat
20:05
to the needs of your Child if your child
20:07
is sick you got to get up in the middle of the night
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take them to a hospital If
20:13
your child's getting bad grades of school you got to deal with
20:16
that and it's just a never-ending stream
20:18
of this for 20 years And
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You never know how your
20:24
child is gonna turn out your child could
20:27
Maybe you do all that perfectly and your
20:29
child is a sort of a straight-a student
20:31
and all that kind of stuff and you're proud of your Child,
20:33
but you know what there's no guarantee You could
20:36
be the best parent and your
20:38
child just gets involved with the wrong crowd Starts
20:40
doing drugs starts doing vandalism
20:43
joins a gang
20:45
Starts robbing people starts
20:47
doing violence maybe even murder someone That
20:52
could happen too And
20:55
that's largely out of your control That's
21:03
some serious maturity right there that takes a lot
21:05
of maturity to deal with that kind of stuff
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Just even for example, let's say your child is
21:11
born with a birth defect
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Just even taking even dealing
21:18
with that Health, you know
21:20
serious health complications you like imagine
21:22
you're born with a crippled I mean your yeah, your
21:25
child is born crippled or something like that and then you
21:27
have to deal with that for the rest of your life imagine how
21:30
What kind of burden that puts on you?
21:32
That takes enormous maturity to
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to stick with that to not run away from that kind
21:37
of situation to embrace it to accept
21:39
it To still love your child despite
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all that
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So good parenting
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being a good parent is is
21:54
Is also another one of those litmus tests.
21:56
That's like
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That's like such a
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such an honest signal
22:03
kind of litmus test you can't fake being a good
22:05
parent
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that takes enormous maturity you
22:11
can't be a good parent and be
22:14
immature another
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important aspect of maturity
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is self-control
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immaturity is being constantly lost
22:25
in your own emotions unable
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to act consistently gently
22:29
peacefully deliberately
22:32
you're too chaotic you're all over the place your
22:34
mind is all over the place you're
22:40
lost in drama
22:42
so knowing how to handle your emotions emotional
22:45
maturity is a hallmark of
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I mean sorry emotional mastery
22:49
is a hallmark of maturity not
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getting triggered so easily by things people
22:55
say or do this
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is a notion
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known as non-reactivity immature
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people are very reactive they get easily offended
23:06
easily triggered because
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they're not in control of their emotions steadiness
23:16
and consistency versus drama and chaos this
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is the difference also
23:23
patience immature
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people are impatient always and
23:29
mature people have cultivated patients
23:35
another key sign
23:37
that I've identified of maturity is the following
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I love this one
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listen to this
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refusing to engage in emotional
23:45
manipulation techniques
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this is huge
23:52
what do I mean by emotional manipulation techniques
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things like blaming scapegoating
23:56
gaslighting denial getting
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triggered
24:00
getting offended,
24:02
losing your temper, projection and rationalization.
24:11
Immature people engage in
24:13
all of this stuff all the time, and
24:15
they don't know how to stop. They don't even understand
24:17
that they're doing it, and they have no shame
24:20
in doing these things. That's
24:22
how unconscious they are. It
24:27
is the hallmark of a mature
24:29
mind to relinquish all
24:31
of these. You
24:35
say no to emotional manipulation techniques. You
24:38
have higher standards for yourself, and you don't
24:40
allow yourself to use these to navigate
24:42
life.
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Now that means you have to forfeit and surrender certain
24:48
benefits that come with using these emotional manipulation
24:50
techniques.
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The mature person doesn't demonize
24:57
straw man and misrepresent. The
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mature person is nonjudgmental
25:05
and non-exploitative. See,
25:09
the immature person will exploit
25:11
any opportunity, because it's just
25:13
a survival mechanism. We've talked about survival.
25:16
Go see my two-part series called
25:18
Understanding Survival, Part 1, Part 2, where we go deep
25:20
on survival, but we're
25:22
bringing that topic in here and connecting it with this,
25:25
is that when you're just running on survival
25:27
all the time, then the easiest
25:30
way to do that is just to be very opportunistic,
25:32
and if you see an opportunity
25:33
to exploit someone, especially another
25:35
human, you do it.
25:40
The mature person says no to that. Even
25:43
when an opportunity presents
25:45
itself to exploit someone, you aren't
25:48
even tempted by it. And
25:52
a mature person undertakes a commitment
25:56
to not manipulate people. Whereas
26:01
immature people are always manipulating
26:03
other people to get their needs met.
26:05
Whereas the mature person finds
26:08
higher quality ways of getting
26:10
his needs met than through this kind
26:12
of manipulation and emotional manipulation
26:15
that we talked about earlier. Now
26:18
this usually means that this kind of mature
26:20
person has to work harder. Because
26:25
you can't just manipulate and exploit somebody real
26:27
quickly, you know, to steal some money or
26:29
scam them or whatever. Or
26:32
to get some sex out of them. You have to actually
26:34
like put in effort. See, an
26:36
immature person could just manipulate somebody to get
26:38
some quick sex.
26:40
But a mature person has higher standards, they
26:42
don't allow themselves to do that. That means they
26:44
sacrifice
26:46
the quantity of sex
26:47
because they have to actually work towards
26:50
building a high quality, relationship
26:53
before they will get the sex.
26:55
And it's not done through some kind of easy manipulation. Likewise
26:58
in business, the difference between an immature business
27:00
person and a mature business person is that the immature
27:02
person will
27:04
just find the fastest opportunity
27:06
to scam somebody out of some money. Whereas
27:08
the mature person isn't interested in doing business that
27:10
way. It's not that he can't.
27:13
He can, it's just that he has a higher standard
27:15
and he doesn't want to do business that way. So
27:17
now it's harder, it's harder to come up
27:20
with a genuine business where I'm
27:22
not exploiting people.
27:24
Because that means I have to generate real value.
27:26
Generating real value takes a lot of hard work. Whereas
27:29
just scamming people is a lot easier. See?
27:34
This
27:34
pretty much explains the whole crypto
27:37
industry right here. Um,
27:42
crypto is immature people looking for a quick profit.
27:45
They're not interested in working. This
27:49
idea of not wanting to do
27:51
genuine work. This is a huge point,
27:54
right? Try to understand it's not just about like, oh,
27:56
I don't want to have a job or, you know, I want to
27:59
optimize my work. It's like there's a whole
28:01
attitude that people have of living
28:03
in a way where they try to avoid doing work and
28:06
not just work But really it's emotional labor
28:09
that you're avoiding
28:11
That's a that's a more general thing I've
28:13
talked about that in
28:15
actually my life purpose course in my life purpose
28:17
course we focus on this issue of avoiding
28:20
emotional labor and how this is
28:22
Really
28:23
tripping up in life
28:26
You can't live a good life without
28:28
taking on emotional labor
28:30
That doesn't just apply to work per se
28:34
It also comes up in relationships and and
28:37
It comes up in this next point which
28:39
is this is also you could I
28:41
mean it's it's hard to say
28:43
Which one of these points is like the topmost
28:45
point? Definitely
28:47
that responsibility point is up there as number one
28:50
maybe and here's probably the
28:52
next one
28:53
is facing truth
28:56
The mature person faces truth And
29:01
the mature person sees the importance
29:03
of facing truth all throughout life
29:05
whereas the immature person is avoiding
29:08
difficult truths
29:10
Because they're inconvenient or they
29:12
impinge on one's fantasies
29:15
See the problem with truth is that it impinges on your
29:17
fantasies It destroys all your fantasies about
29:19
yourself about the world about others about religion
29:21
about politics everything see my episode
29:23
called
29:24
Why
29:28
you avoid the truth So
29:33
That ties in here But
29:36
I want you to contemplate this this
29:38
is this is so central and fundamental to maturity
29:41
is you know facing truth
29:43
and you know Most
29:46
people don't give a shit about truth
29:50
Which immediately tells you
29:52
why most people are immature they don't care about true they
29:54
don't take truth seriously They think they can just kind
29:56
of like skate their way through life without
29:58
taking truth seriously
30:00
how people can even, how
30:04
people can delude themselves into this kind
30:06
of mindset I don't even understand. To me
30:09
truth was important since I was a child but
30:12
then again I was a pretty mature kid. But
30:16
I want you to contemplate this question, why is it immature
30:18
to avoid truth? What is the
30:20
relationship between truth, facing truth
30:23
and maturity? Why are those connected?
30:26
It's not some arbitrary thing, there's
30:28
a deep relationship there. What is that relationship?
30:32
Contemplate that. To
30:36
be mature is to be deeply rooted in
30:39
the reality of things
30:41
rather than lost in wishful thinking and fantasy.
30:44
You see the human mind is so prone
30:46
to spinning its own
30:48
versions of reality and
30:50
avoiding truth and fantasizing
30:53
and justifying itself and then getting lost
30:55
in various kinds of ideological bubbles
30:57
and different worldviews and cults
30:59
and religions in this ideology
31:01
and that philosophy right? This is what the human mind
31:03
is always doing. This is what I've, this
31:06
is what much of my work, my epistemic work
31:08
is about is helping you to avoid these kind
31:10
of self-deceptions of the mind especially
31:13
when it comes to epistemology. But you
31:16
see
31:19
the more immature a person is the worse their worldview
31:22
is. Their worldview is not truthful, it's not accurate.
31:24
They're
31:24
living in a fantasy of some kind
31:27
and then the reason they're acting out so
31:29
immaturely is because they need to
31:31
somehow maintain that fantasy and
31:35
usually that's done through lying, cheating,
31:37
stealing, defrauding, scamming, exploiting,
31:39
manipulating, acting
31:41
out, emotional outbursts, drama,
31:43
all this shit. And
31:49
the more untruthful you are the more these
31:51
sorts of emotional manipulation
31:54
mechanisms you need to
31:57
survive through life. Maturity
32:04
is about deep understanding of situations.
32:08
Because the deeper you can penetrate a situation
32:10
with your understanding, that
32:17
cuts through illusion, you see? Cuts through
32:21
illusion. So
32:23
there is a relationship between illusion and
32:25
immaturity. Immature people are
32:27
under a lot of illusions. Because they don't value truth. And
32:34
because they avoid truth, and
32:37
they think they can get away with that. One
32:43
of the hallmarks of immaturity is thinking you can
32:45
get away with
32:48
untruth, with falsehood.
32:54
The mature person understands that
32:59
truth is such a serious issue,
33:01
that you're really a fool if you think
33:04
you can just skate by through life,
33:07
bobbing and weaving your way, deftly
33:10
avoiding the truth. And thinking
33:12
that you're just going to get by.
33:15
80 years you can do this and get by,
33:17
without consequence.
33:18
This is, to the mature mind,
33:21
this is preposterous. This is a preposterous
33:23
way to live.
33:25
The immature mind actually believes this is
33:27
a good way to live, and that actually it's winning
33:29
at this. Because you can
33:31
do it for a short period of time. For a short
33:33
period of time, maybe even for years or for
33:35
a decade, you can do this. And
33:37
then the immature mind gets convinced
33:40
or fooled, it fools itself, and falls
33:42
into this illusion that it has spun for itself, that actually
33:44
this is going to work.
33:47
You know, it's like, I've cheated a few people, and I've
33:49
made some money, and I'm going to keep doing it, and it's
33:51
going to keep working. This is how the immature
33:53
mind thinks. Or it's like, you know,
33:55
I've manipulated a few of these women to sleep with me, by
33:58
lying to them and cheating on them, all that and it's just going
34:00
to continue I'm just going to continue this and it's going to keep working.
34:09
The next point on maturity is epistemic
34:12
humility. Epistemic
34:16
humility
34:18
and not knowing understanding
34:20
the power and importance of not knowing go see my episode
34:22
the power of not knowing. You
34:26
know a lot less than you think you know the
34:29
mature person understands that the immature person does not
34:32
the immature person does not have epistemic
34:34
humility. So
34:36
I've talked about that a lot in my
34:39
past episodes on epistemology go check
34:41
those out.
34:44
Maturity is being honest versus lying
34:46
cheating.
34:52
Maturity is to be able to see outside
34:54
your own perspective and agenda to see
34:56
from others perspectives
34:58
and immature person is too selfish to
35:00
see outside his own perspective
35:03
and is lost in self bias. Go
35:05
see my episode
35:07
titled
35:08
self bias and another one called
35:11
understanding bias
35:13
very important episodes
35:14
also that relates to truth you know this issue
35:17
of bias why is it so important why do I talk about it a lot
35:19
because again it relates to truth.
35:22
Because the less truthful you are the more illusions
35:24
you're under the more bias you are bias
35:26
is illusion in a sense
35:30
and your own perspective and agenda
35:32
your own survival agenda that is your
35:35
primary source of bias. Another
35:44
point on maturity is to be respectful
35:47
of the sovereignty of others to
35:50
understand the importance that I've talked about that elsewhere the
35:53
sovereignty of others. What
35:56
does that even mean. I've
35:58
explained it elsewhere.
36:02
But basically it means
36:04
understanding that every
36:07
human is a sovereign individual, sovereign consciousness
36:11
and needs to be treated as such.
36:14
As soon as you stop treating people in
36:16
that way by manipulating them and trying to control
36:18
them and push them around and so forth, dominate
36:21
them,
36:23
all hell breaks loose. So
36:29
respecting other sovereignty means not
36:31
trying to control others, not trying to impose
36:33
your agenda on them and your perspective and
36:36
not trying to
36:39
get everyone else to live the way that you live.
36:45
Understanding that
36:48
you don't need to impose yourself on everybody else,
36:51
appreciating that people have unique needs,
36:53
values, strengths, weaknesses,
36:56
personality types
36:58
and everyone has to live their own unique lifestyle.
37:02
So what's an example of an
37:04
application of this? Like this, look, if you're
37:06
an immature parent, you're
37:10
going to try to get your child to
37:12
obey basically your agenda.
37:14
You're going to overlook the sovereignty of your child as an individual
37:17
consciousness and you're just going to say, you know,
37:20
your child might come to you and you might ask your
37:22
child, like, so what do you want to be when you grow up? And the child
37:24
says, I want to be an artist. And you
37:26
say an artist. No, that's nonsense. You're
37:29
going to be a doctor, a lawyer or an accountant, you
37:31
know, a
37:31
real professional or an engineer like
37:35
this.
37:36
And your child will say, no, but I, you
37:38
know, I really have some artistic abilities and I don't
37:40
like accounting and engineering. I'm not good at that. You'll
37:43
say, no, to hell with that. You're just going to become an accountant.
37:46
See this would be an example
37:50
of immature parenting, whereas mature parenting
37:53
would be actually listening to your
37:56
child, evaluating your child's unique
37:59
needs, strengths, and weaknesses, passions
38:01
and predictions and personality type
38:04
and understanding that if your child is not passionate about
38:06
accounting He's never going to become a good accountant in effect
38:10
He'll
38:10
probably quit
38:12
and he'll blame you for it Whereas
38:15
you know if he's got some
38:17
passion for for art. It's your
38:20
job. You see
38:23
The challenge of being a mature adult
38:25
parent is that like you have to set
38:27
aside your own agenda
38:30
And what you want for your child because your child might
38:32
want things that
38:36
Are antithetical to your personality type
38:39
You might think that the things your child is interested in are stupid
38:43
And you have to set that aside and say
38:45
you know what for the good of my child. I can't
38:47
just
38:48
It doesn't really matter what my personal judgment is about
38:50
what he's doing is stupid or not. It's like there's
38:53
a higher There's a higher aspect
38:56
to all this But
38:59
see that requires that's what a mature parent that's
39:01
how a mature parent would would behave
39:04
Usually as a parent the trap
39:06
is that you're going to want to like impose all of your
39:08
values on the child
39:10
Your values your personality type your
39:12
lifestyle and then that's going to create a lot of conflict
39:15
because of course your child has different
39:18
strengths weaknesses personality values and lifestyle
39:20
and That is ideal
39:23
for them than for you. You can't
39:25
just assume that your ideal lifestyle is their
39:27
ideal lifestyle That's
39:34
real difficult to do because you got to step outside of your
39:36
agenda A lot of people are so
39:38
selfish that they they literally cannot do that
39:42
And then that creates a lot of family
39:44
conflict relationship conflict, of course Maturity
39:49
is also the ability to compromise The
39:54
ability to be
39:56
flexible to change your mind see image
39:59
people think that compromise is a
40:02
bad thing, a dirty word, especially
40:04
like in politics. You'll notice this, that
40:07
the most mature politicians understand
40:10
the importance of compromise in a democracy.
40:13
The most immature politicians and
40:17
political actors and activists,
40:22
they view compromise as some kind of evil. They
40:25
want to get everything their way and they want
40:27
to defeat the other side. They actually
40:30
believe they can do that.
40:34
Some conservatives actually believe that they're going
40:36
to destroy liberalism
40:39
and some progressives and leftists believe
40:41
that they're going to destroy and put
40:43
an end to conservatism. See
40:47
some of my videos about conscious politics where
40:51
I discuss about the,
40:53
you know, there's a deep
40:56
immaturity in our political
40:57
climate right now, which is playing
41:00
itself out.
41:01
Very, very immature. Incredibly,
41:03
in fact, I'm shocked at how immature it is. It's
41:06
cartoonishly immature. I'll
41:11
be talking a little bit more about politics
41:14
here in a moment because there's some great examples
41:16
that I just can't resist. You probably
41:18
know which ones, but okay, we'll get
41:20
there in a minute. So yeah, so the ability
41:22
to compromise,
41:24
like you'll see that the
41:26
most senior senators and
41:29
politicians in Congress,
41:31
they're pretty good at compromising.
41:34
Whereas the new ones, there's like a lot
41:36
of sort of like radical, especially on the right wing in American
41:38
politics, there's a lot of radical new
41:41
senators and congresspeople who came
41:44
into power in the last five years, let's
41:46
say, in this MAGA era. And
41:49
you look at these people and they're just, they're
41:52
very passionate, they're unwilling to compromise and
41:54
they think that by doing this, that they're somehow being
41:56
like champions for,
41:58
for
41:59
consumer. conservative values or whatever they believe they're
42:01
defending God or country or whatever, but
42:05
you can tell that these are the most immature, the
42:09
most green, the most ignorant.
42:11
These people know nothing about government. They know nothing
42:14
about serious politics. They haven't, they
42:16
have no understanding of how
42:18
societies develop. They have no understanding
42:20
of history. They're
42:23
just utterly ignorant and
42:26
they're the most unyielding and inflexible. Coincidence?
42:31
I think not. Another
42:36
sign of maturity is taking
42:38
care of your health. Valuing
42:47
your health
42:49
requires a lot of maturity,
42:51
not just valuing it, but acting
42:54
out on that value. Because what does it mean
42:56
to value your health? Well, that means you have to make sacrifices
42:58
in terms of the junk food that you will no longer
43:00
eat. You have to make sacrifices going to the gym.
43:03
You have to make sacrifices going to the doctor when
43:05
maybe you would prefer not to. Getting
43:09
certain procedures done when you would rather put them off.
43:12
See health is one of those things that you take for
43:14
granted when you're young.
43:16
If you're
43:17
in your teens, twenties, thirties, for most
43:19
people, their health is pretty good. They
43:21
can eat junk. They can not exercise.
43:23
They can engage in
43:26
drugs and this kind of stuff recreationally.
43:29
It feels
43:32
like they can get away with it. Well,
43:34
they're being immature. They're
43:36
not thinking long term. They're acting impulsively.
43:43
The more someone takes care of their health, the
43:46
more mature they are.
43:47
That's not easy to do, especially in our modern
43:50
culture and society where on every street corner
43:53
you have junk food
43:54
and it can be difficult sometimes to get high
43:58
quality whole foods.
44:00
organic foods vegetables and fruits
44:02
and so forth raw for raw foods
44:05
and It's
44:07
more expensive to you have to work harder, right? Some
44:11
people say well Leo, but I can't afford healthy food Right
44:15
because see it's not it's not really that
44:17
you can't afford it It's that you have you don't understand
44:19
yet that you have to value it so much that you're gonna go
44:21
you're gonna work harder
44:23
To be able to afford it It's a sacrifice
44:28
Maybe
44:31
in order to afford it you
44:33
have to start a business which means you have to work a lot harder Than
44:35
you would work otherwise But
44:38
then once you get
44:39
that business going after a few years
44:41
now, you can afford all the health food you want
44:43
and not worry about it Whereas
44:46
the immature person will just say well,
44:49
I
44:49
can't afford it and I'm not gonna take responsibility for starting a
44:52
business Because that's too hard and I'm kind of lazy and
44:54
I want to avoid work and
44:56
so therefore I'm just gonna keep eating junk food I'm
44:58
gonna keep complaining and making this excuse that well
45:00
I would eat healthy if I could afford it, but I can't and then
45:02
for the rest of their life They're gonna live
45:05
that way See that's that's
45:07
very irresponsible immature
45:10
behavior You're
45:12
not taking ownership over the situation
45:15
If you can't afford something in life,
45:18
that means take ownership of it and figure out what you're gonna do That means
45:21
take ownership of it and figure out a way to work
45:23
harder and make more money
45:25
By starting a business or getting a promotion
45:27
learning some new skills that will make
45:29
you
45:30
You know Allow you to get hired
45:33
for a higher wage Or just
45:35
work more hours Maturity
45:42
is also experience and familiarity
45:44
with all of the common traps so
45:46
they no longer seduce you Immature
45:49
people are easily seduced by Traps
45:53
like fame sex
45:56
cheating lying scamming
45:58
exploiting manipulating
45:59
These are all traps to
46:02
the mature person
46:05
It's obvious that these kind of things are traps and
46:07
that therefore you should say no to them
46:10
But to the immature person it's not obvious
46:13
that heroin is a trap Believe
46:15
it or not. I mean like to a mature person
46:17
It's so obvious that heroin is a trap that there's
46:19
not even the desire to try heroin
46:21
But to the immature person they can't see that it
46:23
heroin is a trap Or
46:28
that crypto is a trap
46:33
Full disclosure I do own some crypto,
46:36
but the majority of crypto, let's just
46:38
be honest It's just
46:40
it's a it's a scam. It's a trap and
46:44
The reason people get trapped by it is because they
46:46
lack experience. It takes a lot of life experience
46:50
To be able to see the counterintuitive nature of all
46:52
these traps go see my episode The
46:54
counterintuitive nature of life where we talk about that pattern
46:57
that dynamic That
46:59
traps a lot of people Life
47:01
is very counterintuitive. You need a lot of experience falling
47:04
into these traps to to know How
47:08
to avoid them
47:10
And also I have another episode
47:12
called um exposing yourself
47:14
to massive experience I believe that's what it's called something like that
47:16
massive experience search for that term.
47:18
You'll find it
47:20
um And this actually
47:22
answers that earlier question we asked which is
47:25
what does age have to do with maturity? well,
47:28
this is I
47:31
think the core of the answer is that
47:36
When you're born young you're born so
47:38
ignorant so inexperienced that
47:40
you don't know You don't know that walking
47:42
off a cliff is going to kill you. You don't know that yet
47:46
And but for your fear of heights
47:48
you would jump off a cliff that's how stupid a child is So
47:54
just a lack of experience right a
47:56
child doesn't even know that sticking his
47:58
hand on a stove is going to hurt that
48:00
takes experience to know that and And
48:04
then just you know there's a lot of examples
48:06
that these are just very obvious examples But there's a lot of much
48:08
more subtle examples. You know a child
48:10
doesn't know that crypto is a scam Whereas
48:13
an adult should should know that for example
48:17
But you know there's a lot of adults who are children and
48:19
who don't know that or at least what we
48:21
could say is that More accurately is that they're financially
48:24
immature. There's a lot of financially immature people
48:29
Most are that way that's
48:31
why most people are broke a
48:34
lot of his financial immaturity
48:36
You know capitalism
48:38
has some issues to do with it as well, but um But
48:41
you know a lot of people if you gave them if you gave a million
48:43
dollars They would lose it within a couple of years
48:46
because they're so financially immature They
48:48
would invest it in crypto and other stupid
48:50
shit
48:51
and lose it So yeah
48:58
Generally speaking the more you age the more experience
49:01
the more life experience of course you have the more traps
49:03
you've fallen into the more mistakes You've made and you learn
49:05
not to make those mistakes again So that's
49:08
why the older you get the more mature you tend
49:10
to get although. It's not it's
49:12
not guaranteed Maturity
49:16
is the ability to anticipate problems and address them preemptively
49:19
before things get out of hand Maturity
49:22
is the ability to make long-term decisions based on
49:24
solid principles Immature
49:27
people don't have any principles
49:29
or even if they do have some principles. It's just purely
49:31
theoretical They can't actualize
49:34
or embody their principles or act out
49:36
their principles because that requires Consistent
49:39
action-taking
49:39
which they cannot do because they're
49:41
so emotionally out of control
49:45
That they can't even show up to work
49:47
on time For a month straight
49:51
So what principled life can they live? Even
49:54
if they wanted to they couldn't be honest for a month straight
49:57
because they would tell themselves what they'll
49:58
count to be honest the next day they would break their own
50:01
word. It's
50:03
not just that they betray others, they
50:07
first and foremost, they betray themselves. They can't control
50:09
themselves. They're
50:12
out of control. Maturity
50:20
is long-term thinking versus short-term thinking. The
50:23
reason the immature person engages in short-term
50:26
thinking is because what's the point
50:28
of them even doing long-term thinking? Because to do long-term
50:30
thinking means you have to then act in alignment
50:32
with long-term thinking. But if you're so emotionally
50:35
lost and out of control that
50:38
you can't even act consistently for one month
50:40
and do one thing consistently for one month that you have
50:43
set your mind to, like let's say you set
50:45
your mind to go to the gym for a month straight,
50:48
an immature person cannot do that. Therefore
50:52
for them, long-term thinking doesn't make
50:55
sense. Because what's the point of it?
50:58
They can't act on it. Because
51:00
they're run by their emotions and their impulses like an animal.
51:07
Maturity very importantly is taking
51:09
ownership of your mistakes,
51:12
the ability to apologize, to
51:14
admit mistakes and to take criticism.
51:20
And when somebody else points
51:22
the truth out to you, see
51:25
the key difference is that the immature person
51:27
gets annoyed, upset,
51:30
offended and threatened
51:34
and takes it out on the messenger, shoots the messenger.
51:36
Whereas the mature person is thankful
51:39
that somebody pointed out some
51:41
sort of difficult truth to them even
51:44
though
51:45
it's not pleasant to hear
51:47
somebody criticizing you for example. But
51:50
there could be truth in that criticism and the mature person
51:52
understands that it's more important to face that truth
51:55
and to incur the temporary
51:57
emotional labor and pain
51:59
of that. suffer a little bit, but
52:01
in the long term you win out. Whereas
52:04
the immature person can't handle that, can't
52:08
handle the truth.
52:10
That's why they can't handle criticism
52:12
very well.
52:14
And they will shoot the messenger that brings
52:16
truth to them.
52:19
Which means people will stop at some point bringing
52:21
truth to them. And then that's perfect
52:23
for these immature people because that just allows
52:25
them to get lost in their own bubble
52:27
of illusion. Because
52:29
when people bring truth to you, that's
52:32
them trying to help to bust you out of your... egotistical
52:41
solipsism, we might say.
52:47
We might say that everybody is lost
52:49
in a bubble of
52:50
ego solipsism.
52:53
And one of the most important functions that other human beings serve
52:55
is that they can help you to offer perspectives
52:58
and feedback, to help you to bust
53:00
you out of your ego solipsism.
53:08
But if you shoot everybody who tries to come
53:10
help you, at some point people will know not
53:12
to come help you anymore.
53:14
And then that allows you to just get very comfortable
53:16
in your egoic
53:17
solipsism, but...
53:21
There's a cost that comes with that. Maturity
53:23
is to act in alignment with
53:26
a clear sense of values. Maturity
53:30
is integrity being principled. See my episode, What is
53:32
Integrity? Maturity
53:37
is being self-directed, the ability
53:39
to lead yourself, rather than conforming and just
53:41
following the mob and
53:43
doing what everybody else is doing as part of some
53:45
herd. Maturity is being non-ideological, non-biased,
53:48
non-conformist, thinking things through your
53:50
mind thinking
53:53
things through from first principles for yourself.
53:59
is having your ducks in a row taking care of
54:02
yourself see
54:03
fundamentally the immature person is incapable
54:05
of taking care of himself
54:07
and then he or she becomes
54:09
a burden onto others because they need
54:12
others to take care of them so
54:14
the immature person needs the mature person to
54:16
take care of them especially
54:20
when all of their illusions fail
54:29
to work out
54:31
then the immature person comes crying for
54:33
help
54:33
to the mature person looking
54:35
for a bailout and
54:43
then the mature person having
54:45
compassion and so forth often
54:48
times
54:50
can fall into the trap of that sort of idiot
54:52
compassion and bailing them out
54:54
when really a lot of times what needs to happen is
54:56
that the immature person needs to learn
54:59
from the suffering of
55:01
their lies deceit manipulations
55:04
and truth
55:04
avoidance they need to feel the suffering of that
55:06
and then learn those lessons but
55:09
of course they don't want to learn those lessons so they're always looking
55:11
for some kind of bailout
55:13
and in this way the immature person could abuse
55:16
and exploit the mature person
55:18
if the mature person isn't careful
55:23
maturity is understanding that your words and
55:25
actions serve as a role model
55:27
to others
55:29
so how you behave influences how others behave
55:33
and you behave in an immature way that
55:35
leads to a
55:38
climate of
55:40
immaturity and
55:42
then that drags down the average the center of gravity
55:45
of the organization
55:47
the family the corporation
55:50
the country the whole world humanity
55:57
the mature person takes on the responsibility
55:59
of being a good role model to others. It's
56:04
part of what being a parent means,
56:07
being a good role model to your children. But
56:10
being a good role model is much more beyond, goes
56:12
way beyond just being a good parent. Maturity
56:16
is the ability to communicate consciously, to resolve
56:18
disputes and disagreements without using force.
56:21
Immature people are always in conflict.
56:25
The more immature someone is, the more violent they are.
56:28
Again, they're out of control and they don't know how
56:30
to handle or resolve differences
56:33
in perspective through conscious
56:36
communication. I'm
56:38
going to have an episode about that in the future
56:40
called Conscious Communication. So,
56:42
search for that if you're watching this
56:45
sometimes after I release. And
56:51
of course, an important
56:54
corollary to this point is the
56:56
ability to listen. Maturity is the ability
56:59
to really listen. Most
57:01
people don't know how to really listen. Therefore,
57:03
you know, they don't know how to communicate consciously
57:05
either. To
57:08
be able to really listen to someone, you have to step outside
57:10
of yourself, your agenda, your perspective.
57:14
You can't be as selfish and egotistical
57:16
as you are and be a good listener.
57:26
And this is a very deep point.
57:29
Maturity is the ability to let go
57:31
and to surrender.
57:34
The ability to accept things as they are.
57:38
See my episode called The Power of Letting Go.
57:42
The immature person is unable to surrender
57:44
or let go of things.
57:49
To the point of being driven OCD. Driving
57:57
themselves
57:57
crazy in their mind.
57:59
able to let go of a certain thought, a
58:02
certain destructive thought.
58:03
An immature person can't do that. And
58:08
lastly, maturity
58:10
is wisdom, of course. Go see my episode,
58:13
What is Wisdom? Where we discuss
58:15
that in great detail. Maturity
58:18
is at the highest level consciousness and intelligence,
58:20
of course. And of
58:22
course, ultimately, maturity just boils down to
58:24
being selfless. Of course. There's
58:27
nothing more to maturity, but
58:30
ever higher levels of selflessness. That's
58:33
all it is. Of
58:35
course. Why would it be anything
58:38
else?
58:42
And now let's cover immaturity. Now I've already
58:44
been covering, you know, because the immaturity is just
58:46
the inverse of maturity. So we've
58:48
already covered many of these points, but,
58:50
you know, just a little bit of a different angle here.
58:53
What is immaturity? It's first
58:55
and foremost, shirking responsibility,
58:57
avoiding responsibility through evasion,
59:00
manipulation, and trickery.
59:04
Immaturity is, in a nutshell,
59:06
all the ways that Donald Trump acts. What
59:11
is Donald Trump's chief problem? He's
59:13
just, he's immature. He's
59:16
a child. He's a man
59:19
child. And what makes Trump so immature?
59:21
He does things for such vain reasons. Just
59:28
look at the reasons and the motivations behind
59:30
his actions. I mean, it's preposterous how
59:32
childish he is. And the fact
59:34
that this is not
59:36
clearly spelled out and obvious
59:39
in the media and to half
59:42
the American population is just, it's preposterous.
59:45
It's absurd. It's a fucking
59:47
farce is what it is.
59:52
One of the things that annoys me the most about
59:54
commentary about Trump
59:56
is that especially
59:58
like people in mainstream media.
59:59
like on CNN and MSNBC, they
1:00:03
will speak about Trump and his actions
1:00:05
as though he's a mature person.
1:00:08
And then they will treat him as though
1:00:10
he's mature and they will just kind of like have a, try
1:00:13
to have a conversation with him
1:00:15
or just try to treat him like every other adult
1:00:18
politician, which to me
1:00:21
is completely preposterous because you're ignoring
1:00:23
the elephant in the room, right? Like, for
1:00:25
example, if Trump says something, they will give
1:00:27
him the benefit of the doubt that
1:00:29
what he's saying is true,
1:00:31
but that this is not how you deal with a character like
1:00:33
Trump.
1:00:34
A character like Trump, the way you deal with him is you
1:00:37
completely call him out on his immature, childish
1:00:39
horseshit. Immediately, you don't allow
1:00:41
any leeway
1:00:43
in terms of he's a child. This is
1:00:45
how you speak to him. You speak to him like a child,
1:00:47
you treat him like a child, that's what he is. And
1:00:50
anybody who supports him seriously
1:00:52
is a child. You called
1:00:54
him out for being a fucking immature child. That's
1:00:56
what they are. That's what every Trump supporter is,
1:00:58
they're children. Trump
1:01:01
is completely out of control. You
1:01:03
see, that's his whole problem. He doesn't know
1:01:05
how to control himself. He cannot even
1:01:08
control himself to not eat a cheeseburger.
1:01:11
That's his situation. That's how big of a child he
1:01:13
is.
1:01:15
This is not partisan. This is not political.
1:01:17
It has nothing to do with politics. His
1:01:21
policies and his politics are irrelevant. It's
1:01:25
all about the fact that he's a child.
1:01:28
He lacks total self-restraint.
1:01:31
He's completely spoiled and entitled. This
1:01:33
man is not equipped to lead anybody.
1:01:40
He cannot even lead himself. He's
1:01:44
an utter narcissist and egotist. And
1:01:46
this is the only conversation that mainstream
1:01:48
media should be having about Trump. The
1:01:51
only one, not about his policy or
1:01:53
about the wall or about this thing that
1:01:55
he did or that thing he wants to do or his political
1:01:57
ambitions. It's like, no, let's talk about the fact
1:01:59
your fucking child and that's where it ends.
1:02:02
Until you stop being a child, we're not gonna move on to talk
1:02:04
about anything else. You
1:02:12
might say, Leo, but you're so biased. No, it's not that
1:02:14
I'm biased, it's that, I mean, yes, I'm
1:02:17
biased. Well, my whole
1:02:19
bias is that my job is to teach
1:02:21
people how to become mature and selfless,
1:02:24
that's my job. So
1:02:26
of course I'm biased in this regard. I'm
1:02:30
biased.
1:02:38
Compare Trump's level of maturity
1:02:40
to Obama's level of maturity.
1:02:44
Obama was a good example of mature.
1:02:48
He was careful,
1:02:49
he was deliberate, he
1:02:51
was in control of himself. That's
1:02:55
the difference. He wasn't spoiled,
1:02:59
he wasn't entitled. All
1:03:03
it is is a difference in selfishness
1:03:05
and selflessness. That's
1:03:08
fundamentally what it is.
1:03:10
See, what is Trump's number one quality
1:03:13
is that, well first of all,
1:03:14
he has no respect for the truth whatsoever, and
1:03:20
he takes responsibility for absolutely nothing. There
1:03:28
you go. That's
1:03:31
the hallmark of a child. He throws
1:03:33
tantrums. He's
1:03:43
unable to say no to himself.
1:03:51
You can't have someone like that leading the country.
1:03:53
The country. If
1:03:56
that's not obvious to you. There's
1:04:00
nothing more to be said Maturity
1:04:08
is self-restraint
1:04:13
Which is the one thing that Trump completely lacks
1:04:17
he has no sense of self-restraint
1:04:22
He wouldn't even
1:04:24
appreciate why self-restraint would be something
1:04:26
one would want to cultivate
1:04:31
Immaturity is impulsiveness in
1:04:33
patience emotional
1:04:35
outbursts throwing tantrums Having
1:04:39
an inconsistent chaotic mind and behavior
1:04:42
that of course comes from that mind because
1:04:44
chaotic behavior comes from chaotic mind
1:04:47
obviously
1:04:48
Immaturity is being needy Desperately
1:04:51
clinging for approval validation attention
1:04:54
fame glory power love
1:04:56
money or sex and
1:04:58
an immature ego chases after these things
1:05:01
because it is deficient in them and
1:05:03
doesn't yet see them as traps and doesn't know how
1:05:06
to fulfill these needs of its
1:05:09
You know some of these needs are legitimate. I'm not saying
1:05:12
Sex is wrong or anything money is not bad
1:05:14
or anything, but like
1:05:16
it's how you go about it
1:05:18
how you relate to it that matters and
1:05:21
You can pursue these way these things in
1:05:23
a way where it becomes a trap and in ways which
1:05:25
are healthy so
1:05:26
the ego doesn't distinguish these things and
1:05:31
Falls into all these as traps
1:05:34
Immaturity is running around seeking
1:05:36
pleasure and fun to be driven
1:05:38
by sex and other kind of cravings to
1:05:41
make your life about that Immaturity
1:05:44
is to fight to argue to blame to name
1:05:46
call Rather
1:05:49
than doing these things the mature thing to do is to reflect
1:05:51
on your own behaviors
1:05:53
Immaturity is getting stuck in conflict the
1:05:56
inability to avoid argument and conflict
1:06:01
An immature person simply doesn't know
1:06:03
how to avoid argument and conflict. Because
1:06:10
they're so stuck in their own illusions. They
1:06:14
can't step outside themselves and their agenda. Immature
1:06:17
people resolve things
1:06:19
through brute force and domination, through
1:06:22
authoritarianism, which of course
1:06:24
is another feature
1:06:27
of Trumpism. Authoritarianism.
1:06:32
Why does Trump like authoritarian leaders around
1:06:34
the world like Putin and
1:06:35
Kim Jong-un and
1:06:39
Xi Jinping of China and so forth?
1:06:41
And Bolsonaro of Brazil and so forth?
1:06:47
Because an extremely selfish
1:06:50
person doesn't know how to resolve conflict
1:06:53
in any other way but through domination.
1:06:56
So they
1:07:02
see domination as the
1:07:04
prime strategy. What
1:07:07
I got to do is I just got to out-dominate others. I
1:07:10
don't need to learn to listen to them. I don't need to learn
1:07:12
to communicate. I don't need to learn how to restrain
1:07:14
myself. I don't need to
1:07:17
learn how to control my emotions or any of that. I
1:07:20
just need to know how to dominate others more. That
1:07:22
will solve my problem.
1:07:26
Have you noticed that the less developed a country
1:07:29
is, the less mature a society is,
1:07:31
the
1:07:32
more of an authoritarian government it has.
1:07:37
And then these governments tend to be very cruel and violent.
1:07:42
And they tend not to have free speech. They don't have good dialogue.
1:07:45
There's not a lot of dialoguing going on in
1:07:48
these kind of countries.
1:07:49
But then what happens is that as the
1:07:51
society evolves, eventually
1:07:53
the society reaches a certain level
1:07:55
where authoritarianism becomes impossible.
1:07:58
means after
1:08:01
a certain point it becomes impossible. Why
1:08:05
is that? Well because
1:08:07
the
1:08:08
center of gravity of that culture and society
1:08:10
has shifted and developed
1:08:12
to a more mature point where
1:08:15
people are not going to tolerate you know other mature
1:08:17
people are not going to tolerate that kind of immature
1:08:19
behavior.
1:08:23
Which is what Donald Trump is finding out. The
1:08:27
center of gravity of American culture is actually
1:08:29
above where Donald Trump is.
1:08:32
Which is why a lot of his antics and so forth
1:08:35
don't work very well anymore.
1:08:37
They worked in the short term before
1:08:40
people really caught on to his level of immaturity.
1:08:42
See a lot of people were caught by surprise
1:08:44
in 2016. They didn't really
1:08:46
know Donald Trump very well or they kind of assumed
1:08:49
that he was just kind of like a normal guy
1:08:51
and it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I
1:08:52
mean it was obvious it was going to be a big problem
1:08:55
and that it was obvious he was a child from the very beginning
1:08:57
if you have any sense of
1:08:59
what maturity and immaturity are. But
1:09:02
you know a lot of people are not very psychologically adept
1:09:04
and aware so they didn't know this stuff that I'm
1:09:07
talking about here. But
1:09:09
so Trump was able to kind of like sneak his
1:09:11
way in the door as it
1:09:13
was closing.
1:09:16
But now people are caught on to his tricks. You
1:09:18
know now it's very obvious how immature he is to
1:09:20
most people. Not to everybody. Not
1:09:23
to as many people as it should be obvious to. You know maybe 30%
1:09:26
of the population in America still doesn't understand
1:09:29
because they themselves are immature. But
1:09:32
you know to appreciate maturity you have to be
1:09:34
mature. Look
1:09:42
at the founding fathers of America. Why is America is a
1:09:44
great country. Look
1:09:46
at the founding fathers they were very mature politicians.
1:09:49
They weren't your typical politicians. Very
1:09:52
mature.
1:09:53
Thomas Jefferson Ben Franklin George
1:09:55
Washington. Who am
1:09:57
I forgetting. There were a few others in there Madison.
1:09:59
and so forth,
1:10:01
uh, John Adams, et cetera. So like,
1:10:04
very, very wise, very, very mature
1:10:07
politicians
1:10:10
that thought deeply long-term,
1:10:13
were not impulsive, were not power-hungry,
1:10:15
were not tyrannical, were not authoritarian,
1:10:18
basically the exact opposite of Trump.
1:10:22
If the founding fathers of America
1:10:26
had the maturity of Donald Trump,
1:10:29
today we would be living in a dictatorship.
1:10:37
If this is not obvious to you, I don't know what
1:10:40
else I can say, your politics are shit. Immaturity
1:10:46
is pretentiousness and posturing, bragging,
1:10:49
needing to take credit, acting entitled
1:10:51
and spoiled, arrogance,
1:10:54
fraud, criminality, exploitation,
1:10:56
and theft and cheating.
1:11:01
Consider the difference
1:11:03
between mature masculinity versus immature
1:11:06
masculinity.
1:11:09
We have a bit of a masculinity crisis, I would
1:11:11
say, right now in our
1:11:13
online culture.
1:11:14
A lot of young men are growing up
1:11:17
and they don't know how to be masculine.
1:11:20
They look for role models and what they find
1:11:22
online is a lot of very immature men
1:11:25
teaching men how to become men
1:11:28
and it's this Andrew Tate shit.
1:11:31
It's this pickup artist shit,
1:11:33
extremely immature.
1:11:40
A comically immature.
1:11:45
There's a lack of good role
1:11:48
models of mature masculinity. I
1:11:53
tried to address that point
1:11:55
in my series, How to Get Laid, part one,
1:11:57
part two, part three, where I try to teach.
1:12:00
Pick up in a more mature way
1:12:02
So compare that to some of the less
1:12:04
mature ways in which pickup is taught
1:12:07
Most of the time
1:12:09
by pickup coaches compare
1:12:12
judge for yourself the difference
1:12:19
Immaturity is not considering the
1:12:21
impact of your actions on others in the world
1:12:25
Willful ignorance of externalities
1:12:27
a Lot
1:12:29
of corporations are very immature see
1:12:33
This doesn't just apply to people and applies to organizations
1:12:36
collectives nations and
1:12:39
of course corporations
1:12:41
Business can be done in a mature way or an immature
1:12:43
way
1:12:44
Most business these days is immature
1:12:46
business In
1:12:49
a hundred years from now The way
1:12:51
business is done. It's going to be so much more mature
1:12:53
these kind of gross externalities
1:12:55
that are
1:12:56
Standard business practice on Wall Street these
1:12:58
days. It's not gonna
1:12:59
persist a hundred years from now We're gonna mature
1:13:02
and grow out of it
1:13:03
But for now a lot of companies what they do
1:13:05
is they just push the externalities of
1:13:07
their business onto
1:13:09
Onto the public sector or I mean onto society
1:13:11
at large
1:13:12
onto the commons tragedy of the common sort
1:13:14
of situation
1:13:15
you know some of these oil companies gas companies
1:13:18
chemical pollution companies and
1:13:20
big pharma companies and so forth with
1:13:22
the externalities and And
1:13:24
I want to underscore this this this key term
1:13:26
willful ignorance. This is a very good term when
1:13:29
we're discussing
1:13:31
Immaturity immaturity you could say in
1:13:33
a nutshell is willful ignorance
1:13:36
It's aggressive ignorance and A
1:13:40
lot of these Trump supporters are aggressively ignorant.
1:13:42
They're not just ignorant. They're aggressively ignorant. They're
1:13:44
willfully ignorant. They're proud of their
1:13:46
ignorance
1:13:51
Immaturity is a lack of understanding
1:13:53
of situations because you are too self-absorbed
1:13:56
bias on truthful avoidant and reactive
1:14:01
to understand them properly to understand
1:14:03
a situation accurately requires
1:14:06
truthfulness honesty lack
1:14:08
of bias ability to see
1:14:10
multiple perspectives and to
1:14:13
deal with difficult truths and to
1:14:15
be control in control of your emotions
1:14:19
if you're lost in a haze of chaotic
1:14:21
emotions you can't understand anything and
1:14:28
then you pay for that
1:14:31
and then your lack of understanding doubles down
1:14:33
on itself
1:14:35
the errors keep increasing
1:14:40
the reason you're in conflict with other people all the time is
1:14:42
because you can't understand them because
1:14:46
you're too self-absorbed to understand
1:14:53
immaturity is an inability to execute long-term
1:14:55
plans of course because you're
1:14:57
out of control an out of control person
1:14:59
cannot go to the gym consistently for a month
1:15:02
impossible cannot do his homework
1:15:04
consistently for a month impossible cannot show
1:15:07
up to work on time for a month impossible
1:15:14
which of course interferes with your success
1:15:17
one of the most important
1:15:20
qualities you
1:15:22
need to be successful is to be able to execute consistently
1:15:25
on long-term plans
1:15:27
so immature people tend to have a lot of money problems
1:15:29
a lot of relationship problems and so on
1:15:32
problems at school problems
1:15:34
with their boss
1:15:36
problems with their family
1:15:40
but especially financial problems
1:15:46
immaturity is a lack of understanding of
1:15:48
what will lead to your own well-being the
1:15:54
immature person is fooling himself
1:15:56
about what will actually serve him best
1:16:01
which is why immature people tend to destroy
1:16:03
their own health.
1:16:07
The immature person is at war with
1:16:10
himself. In
1:16:13
contradiction, full of contradiction, the
1:16:15
mind has more contradictions in it. The
1:16:18
mature mind understands that eliminating
1:16:20
contradictions from itself is
1:16:23
an important aspect of the health of the mind. Whereas
1:16:25
the immature mind is so full of illusions and bullshit
1:16:28
and contradictions
1:16:28
at conflict with itself,
1:16:30
at odds with itself, and ultimately at war
1:16:32
with itself.
1:16:36
And destroys itself
1:16:38
in the end. Which
1:16:40
is of course what Trump has done to himself. All
1:16:44
of Trump's antics will lead to his ultimate self-destruction.
1:16:48
As of course they should.
1:16:50
And it's completely obvious to a mature person that it would
1:16:52
work this way.
1:16:53
Only to someone as foolish and
1:16:55
stupid as Trump or a Trump supporter
1:16:58
can they think that you can just get away
1:17:00
with this. That the universe will allow you to just
1:17:02
get away with this kind of behavior. Over
1:17:06
and over and over again without any consequence. This is
1:17:09
preposterous. Absolutely
1:17:11
laughable. The
1:17:15
only way you can get away with this kind
1:17:17
of behavior is just through luck. It's
1:17:20
a matter of time and you know Trump has had a lot
1:17:22
of luck. He's already very old and he's gotten away with
1:17:24
a lot of stuff. So he's had a lot of luck.
1:17:27
I would say he's been more lucky than
1:17:29
you will be if you act as foolishly as
1:17:31
he has in his life.
1:17:33
So he's a very lucky guy. But
1:17:36
I think his luck is running short as
1:17:38
we're seeing. I
1:17:45
would not want to be him right now. Of
1:17:49
course as I said already, immaturity
1:17:51
is the inability to let go.
1:17:54
To let go of what? Thoughts?
1:17:57
People?
1:17:58
Arguments? I don't know.
1:17:59
ideology
1:18:01
Perspective agenda. You're
1:18:03
just so attached to it. It's it's
1:18:06
a clinging kind of energy You
1:18:08
can't let it go. There's a thought that just keeps going
1:18:11
through your head and you just can't let that thought go That's
1:18:15
what that's what emotional immaturity
1:18:17
looks like and It's
1:18:20
an inability to be at peace to be calm
1:18:22
to be gentle Peace is
1:18:27
the fruit of a mature
1:18:30
life a life
1:18:32
devoted to cultivating maturity
1:18:36
Immaturity is self-deception fantasy
1:18:38
illusion falsehood
1:18:41
Immaturity is materialistic living
1:18:45
maturity is spiritual living
1:18:48
of course immaturity is synonymous
1:18:50
with foolishness
1:18:52
Unconsciousness
1:18:54
a lack of intelligence
1:18:58
and ultimately
1:18:59
Immaturity is just selfishness of
1:19:03
course What else would it be?
1:19:09
So in the end when
1:19:11
we boil it all down it gets very
1:19:13
simple You're
1:19:15
either devoted to a life of selfishness
1:19:18
and immaturity or a life of
1:19:21
selflessness and maturity Here's
1:19:27
a list of examples of immature behavior Just
1:19:31
to get your mind jogging
1:19:32
abandoning your child
1:19:35
Lying cheating scamming and defrauding
1:19:38
Theft in all of its forms. Why
1:19:40
do immature people? gravitate
1:19:43
towards Theft in all of
1:19:45
its when there's there are a lot of very subtle forms
1:19:47
of theft which I will talk about in my episode called
1:19:50
Future one called the avoidance of
1:19:52
hard work
1:19:53
That's coming soon. We're gonna talk
1:19:55
about theft there. The theft is a much bigger
1:19:58
topic than people realize
1:19:59
There's so many different forms of theft
1:20:02
and
1:20:03
all of them are perpetrated by immature
1:20:05
people. Why is that?
1:20:07
Because like I said earlier, the immature
1:20:10
people don't want to work hard. Therefore,
1:20:12
you know, if you're not going to work hard in life, but you still want all
1:20:14
the goodies, which, of course, immature people all do,
1:20:18
the only way you can get that is through some form of theft.
1:20:23
A lot of these forms of theft
1:20:25
are not called theft. And
1:20:27
immature people actually think that no, that
1:20:29
they're not thieves. Just
1:20:33
because it's not called theft. But
1:20:35
there's a lot of stuff that's not called theft that should be called
1:20:37
theft.
1:20:38
We'll get into that in that other episode
1:20:41
in the future. So stay tuned for that.
1:20:43
It's going to be a good one.
1:20:45
Another example of immaturity is losing
1:20:48
your temper. Getting offended and
1:20:50
upset easily. Getting triggered in
1:20:52
a debate or a flame war. Trolling other people.
1:20:55
Taking glee in one's in
1:20:57
someone else's defeat or suffering. Getting
1:21:00
morally outraged. Bragging.
1:21:04
What color is your Bugatti?
1:21:08
Counting how many girls you've had sex with and bragging
1:21:10
about it.
1:21:11
Calling women sluts and whores.
1:21:13
Manipulating someone into.
1:21:16
Giving you sex and money.
1:21:19
Calling people pedophiles. Oh, this
1:21:21
is a this is a doozy. This is a favorite
1:21:23
one today. This is so popular. Accusing
1:21:26
people being pedophiles is like the most
1:21:28
immature thing. You know, it's
1:21:30
just the hallmark of an immature mind.
1:21:32
Defaming and smearing people's reputations.
1:21:36
Seeking validation for your success. Seeking
1:21:38
social media attention.
1:21:43
Avoiding emotional labor. Leaching
1:21:44
off of your friends and family. Wanting
1:21:47
to take all the credit for yourself. Manipulating
1:21:51
friends and spouses.
1:21:52
Exaggerating not being truthful or accurate.
1:21:56
Bad faith. Lack of intellectual
1:21:58
honesty.
1:21:59
Taking joy from inflicting suffering
1:22:02
on others
1:22:03
Only behaving well when others are watching
1:22:06
Taking advantage of naive people Throwing
1:22:11
objects and slamming doors
1:22:13
Whining and complaining without taking action
1:22:16
watch out for this one
1:22:19
Especially in the political realm a lot of people do whining
1:22:21
and complaining in the political realm, but then they take no action
1:22:28
Being involved in dirty political campaigns
1:22:31
breaking just laws
1:22:32
Expecting
1:22:35
people to buy you things or to do work for you Because
1:22:38
you don't want to do it
1:22:39
yourself and you're just looking for somebody else
1:22:42
to do it for you That's
1:22:45
the list Let
1:22:49
me make a few points here about society at large Let me make
1:22:52
a few points here about society at large If
1:22:55
you're spending a lot of time online
1:22:58
on YouTube on social media on
1:23:00
forums
1:23:04
Observing politics and so forth
1:23:06
and even entertainment This
1:23:09
whole online sort of YouTube
1:23:12
Facebook TikTok Twitter
1:23:14
ecosystem Reddit ecosystem
1:23:17
if you're anywhere near this
1:23:19
Which you probably are if you watch me then
1:23:21
you have a lot of Examples
1:23:24
of immaturity going around today Social
1:23:28
media influencers celebrities and so forth these
1:23:31
people are demonstrating some
1:23:33
of the most immature ways of behaving Which
1:23:36
is very unfortunate
1:23:38
and if you're a
1:23:39
youngster growing up this can really twist
1:23:42
you up
1:23:44
There are a few mature role models
1:23:46
out there for you
1:23:49
Our culture right now celebrates stupidity
1:23:51
and immaturity
1:23:53
Look at the rise of Donald Trump Andrew Tate
1:23:56
the stuff that's going on with Elon Musk This
1:23:59
is the celebration of immaturity
1:24:02
and online platforms
1:24:05
tend to reward this kind of immature behavior drama
1:24:08
arguing fighting name-calling
1:24:11
bullshitting
1:24:15
gossiping ego narcissism
1:24:19
fraud these
1:24:21
crypto scams
1:24:22
right all this is rewarded by by these online
1:24:25
platforms
1:24:28
and in our politics
1:24:32
so some of the most successful people are the people
1:24:34
who are the most immature
1:24:37
which is rather perverse and twisted don't
1:24:40
you think
1:24:43
well what I say is that shame on
1:24:45
all these people I'm
1:24:46
holding you
1:24:48
to a higher standard I hold myself to a higher
1:24:50
standard you're better than this and
1:24:53
I don't want you to get the some low standard of
1:24:56
what you're going to be as a human being from consuming
1:24:59
all this online horseshit content
1:25:00
that's just immature nonsense you're
1:25:04
after maturity here that's what
1:25:06
we're about that's self
1:25:08
actualization is about that's what spirituality is about
1:25:14
consider as an example how
1:25:17
this issue of maturity applies even just outside
1:25:20
of your
1:25:22
personal life consider
1:25:26
the difference between for example a mature industry
1:25:28
versus an immature industry
1:25:32
an immature industry might be something like social media
1:25:34
or the internet companies Silicon
1:25:36
Valley you know their motto has been move
1:25:39
fast break things this is the definition
1:25:41
of immature behavior
1:25:45
this crypto fraud stuff we're seeing the
1:25:47
sort of the Wild West
1:25:49
it's chaotic there's a lack of self-restraint
1:25:54
interesting here
1:25:59
some areas where you might want to take a specific
1:26:02
look
1:26:03
for maturity versus immaturity.
1:26:07
Politics. What
1:26:09
does immature politics look like and
1:26:12
what does mature politics look like?
1:26:15
Well if you want more on that I have a lot of material,
1:26:18
I think some top-notch material. Go check out my
1:26:20
series, four-part series called Conscious Politics,
1:26:22
where I explain to you
1:26:25
what I think mature politics look like
1:26:27
and how different it is from what we're currently
1:26:29
seeing online.
1:26:32
The next area is relationships, dating,
1:26:34
and sex. What is a
1:26:37
immature attitude towards relationships, dating,
1:26:39
and sex and what is a mature attitude?
1:26:42
That's night and day right there. Family
1:26:46
relations. What
1:26:49
do immature versus mature family relations
1:26:52
look like? Then
1:26:54
in the area of business, finances,
1:26:56
money, and investing,
1:26:58
what's immature, what's mature?
1:27:00
Really think about
1:27:02
what are some examples of mature ways of doing
1:27:04
business.
1:27:06
That's still something that mankind really struggles
1:27:09
with collectively because of the influence
1:27:11
of Wall Street and all this sort
1:27:13
of sprothemic stage orange stuff. It's
1:27:16
quite toxic and immature.
1:27:19
Then spirituality
1:27:22
and religion. In the area of spirituality and religion,
1:27:24
what is immature spirituality? What is mature
1:27:26
spirituality? That's night and
1:27:28
day, night
1:27:29
and day. Then in the domain
1:27:31
of morality, what is immature morality?
1:27:34
What is mature morality? Now
1:27:38
understand that
1:27:42
immature people are mostly immature because
1:27:44
they were raised by other immature people.
1:27:48
One of the hallmarks of maturity is to
1:27:51
be able to deal with immature people
1:27:53
in a graceful and skillful
1:27:57
manner. This is a little difficult because
1:27:59
there's a lot of you know, there's levels of maturity. And
1:28:02
what's gonna happen is that first year, you're very immature. Then
1:28:04
you become a little bit more mature and you look down, you can,
1:28:06
now you can recognize people like Trump as being very immature.
1:28:09
But you're still not that mature because you're
1:28:12
at a level where you're like in the middle where you don't
1:28:14
know how to deal with immature people. So what you do is
1:28:16
you just kind of vent and fume and
1:28:18
yell at them and stuff like that, call them names.
1:28:22
But you don't have that
1:28:25
sort of tier two, the dynamics tier
1:28:27
two level
1:28:28
of maturity and wisdom
1:28:31
and consciousness where you're able to even
1:28:33
sort of integrate immature people
1:28:36
into
1:28:38
your acceptance and embrace of all of reality.
1:28:40
Cause you know, immature people are a giant chunk
1:28:42
of reality that you have to, you can't just demonize them,
1:28:44
right? See that would be immature. To demonize
1:28:46
immature people would itself be an immature
1:28:49
approach to dealing with immature people. So what's
1:28:51
the mature way of dealing with immature people? Well, that's
1:28:53
something that's like requires a double dose
1:28:55
of maturity. That's like maturity
1:28:57
squared to be able to deal with immature people maturely and
1:29:00
gracefully
1:29:01
and skillfully. That's
1:29:05
like some spiral wizardry stuff right there. That's tier
1:29:07
two. Personally, I struggle with that. You
1:29:10
know, you might say, well, Leo, but aren't you like venting
1:29:13
and fuming at Trump and all this? Shouldn't
1:29:15
you have a more mature way of talking about Trump?
1:29:18
And look, it's not like I'm offended by Trump or anything.
1:29:20
It's just that like, to me, it's just so preposterous.
1:29:24
The whole situation is just so preposterous. And
1:29:26
I don't see anybody just like nailing Trump
1:29:28
on what he needs to be nailed on. Like I don't, I turn
1:29:30
on, I watch the news all the time, people criticizing
1:29:33
Trump, but they never criticize him properly. They
1:29:35
criticize him on all sorts of stupid shit.
1:29:37
They don't nail him on the core
1:29:40
thing. So that's my
1:29:42
pet peeve there. But
1:29:45
definitely I have more work to do on more
1:29:47
maturely dealing with immature people.
1:29:50
That's, I mean, man, that's real difficult. I'll
1:29:53
tell you, I mean, I deal with some immature idiots on
1:29:55
my forum in the comments sections. You know, I've
1:29:57
dealt with them for fucking years. Free,
1:29:59
Frank. frankly, it does trigger me.
1:30:01
It's difficult sometimes. It
1:30:04
gets to you. And
1:30:06
in the future, I anticipate maturing more
1:30:08
and dealing with them in a more graceful manner
1:30:11
than I have in the past. But
1:30:13
that's a real test. That's
1:30:15
a real test of your maturity right there. Some
1:30:19
spiritual gurus say that the real test of your enlightenment
1:30:21
is go spend a week with your family, living
1:30:23
with your family after enlightenment. That's
1:30:26
the real test. The real test of your maturity
1:30:28
is go deal with some completely immature
1:30:31
jackass who's trolling you online or something
1:30:33
and deal with that. Well, that's
1:30:36
tricky. If
1:30:39
you can handle that, maybe you're more mature than I am.
1:30:43
Here are some things to consider.
1:30:45
Consider a mature conversation
1:30:47
and a mature communication versus an immature
1:30:50
one. What does that look like?
1:30:52
Consider a mature relationship.
1:30:54
What does that look like? Consider
1:30:57
a mature attitude towards work,
1:30:59
a mature way of doing business.
1:31:02
Consider mature
1:31:04
spirituality. Consider
1:31:07
mature society.
1:31:09
What does that look like? Consider a mature
1:31:11
culture.
1:31:14
Consider a mature set of life goals
1:31:16
and direction
1:31:17
versus its opposite. All
1:31:22
things for you to consider on your own. Now
1:31:27
you might wonder, well, okay, Leo, what do I do about this? How
1:31:29
do I become more mature if I actually want to? Well,
1:31:32
I'm glad you asked because I've got a long list for you.
1:31:35
So ride it down. Number
1:31:37
one, of course, take ownership of things. Ask
1:31:41
yourself this key question, where am I not taking
1:31:44
responsibility? Or
1:31:46
this one, who do I blame?
1:31:50
Or this one, in what ways do I act
1:31:52
like a child? Those
1:31:55
are some powerful and scary questions to ask
1:31:57
yourself. But, you know, if you're trying to be mature,
1:32:00
Take on the challenge of asking that question see
1:32:02
an immature person wouldn't want to take
1:32:05
incur the emotional labor of asking such
1:32:07
questions because the answers would probably be too painful
1:32:09
and
1:32:12
Require you to make some changes
1:32:15
Next is stop blaming arguing,
1:32:18
judging, fighting, and name-calling
1:32:20
cut this out Stop
1:32:22
it
1:32:23
Also, stop creating drama. You're creating
1:32:26
a lot of drama. Stop it
1:32:27
Stop whining and complaining
1:32:30
Stop pursuing raw pleasure Has
1:32:32
your modus of sort
1:32:35
of modus operandi in life
1:32:37
if that's something you do
1:32:38
lead
1:32:40
Lead yourself lead others take
1:32:42
on
1:32:43
Leadership roles leadership roles
1:32:46
will force you to become a lot more responsible
1:32:50
as soon as you take on a leadership role
1:32:52
whether as head of a household or
1:32:55
Some department in your corporation or whatever on
1:32:57
leading a small even a small team of five people
1:33:00
at work You know taking that leadership role when
1:33:02
that opportunity arises This will force
1:33:04
you out of yourself out of your
1:33:06
egotism because other people will be dependent on
1:33:08
you and you will feel the weight of that
1:33:11
dependence and you won't want to let them down
1:33:13
and
1:33:14
so you will have less leeway to screw
1:33:16
around and to Be
1:33:19
immature because if you're in a leadership
1:33:21
position you act immaturely other people will very
1:33:24
quickly Put you in your place and point
1:33:26
that out to you. You will get kicked out You'll get fired and so
1:33:28
forth and it'll just not be a fun experience
1:33:30
So you will quickly learn to become mature
1:33:33
in those positions or you will lose those positions
1:33:35
very quickly
1:33:38
As you know as Trump did rightly
1:33:40
so
1:33:42
Next is learn to manage your emotions
1:33:44
emotional mastery emotional intelligence EQ is
1:33:46
called
1:33:49
I have some old videos on that front.
1:33:51
I have a video called how to master your emotions go check that out Next
1:33:57
is have an eye towards something higher
1:33:59
and lower larger in life
1:34:01
a Life purpose for
1:34:03
that see my life purpose course which can help you to
1:34:05
develop that
1:34:07
Links down below in the description
1:34:11
Next is do philosophy and contemplate a lot
1:34:13
of contemplation and self-reflection Introspection
1:34:15
is necessary see my episode called introspection
1:34:18
actually it's called developing introspection See
1:34:20
my episode how to contemplate how to contemplate
1:34:22
using a journal how to ask powerful questions
1:34:25
go see all those
1:34:26
An intro to serious philosophy go see
1:34:29
that one Next
1:34:32
is burning through your karma. I have a powerful
1:34:34
episode called burning through karma go watch that
1:34:37
if you don't know what that phrase means
1:34:40
Exhaust your egoic pettiness and observe
1:34:42
how ugly it is Observe
1:34:45
the ugliness of your own selfishness basically,
1:34:48
that's That's the formula
1:34:51
right there
1:34:52
Next is meet your
1:34:53
basic survival needs learn to take care of yourself
1:34:57
Become self-reliant and independent
1:34:59
stop relying on others to take care of you It
1:35:08
might seem like but Leo isn't taking care of
1:35:10
my basic survival needs isn't that selfish Should
1:35:13
I be more selfless and go helping
1:35:15
others, but see this is foolish
1:35:18
a Mature
1:35:21
way of helping others is to first help
1:35:23
yourself Ground yourself
1:35:25
solidify yourself so that you are in
1:35:27
control of your emotions.
1:35:29
You're in control of your finances
1:35:31
You're not desperate. You're not clinging
1:35:33
you've got your basic sex needs taken
1:35:35
care of all that basic stuff you take care of that then
1:35:38
with the
1:35:39
Foundation you build from there you now have
1:35:41
the capacity to help others to raise a family
1:35:44
to be a leader and
1:35:45
To maybe go into governance
1:35:47
and so forth But if you can't take
1:35:49
care of your basic survival needs you're not going
1:35:52
to be able to really help others effectively
1:35:57
And then to compensate for that in a inability
1:35:59
you're gonna
1:35:59
Come up with all sorts of fantasies, delusions, and manipulation
1:36:02
techniques to try to hold together this
1:36:04
house of cards.
1:36:06
Build your life on a solid foundation
1:36:08
is what I'm telling you. That's the mature way to go about
1:36:10
it.
1:36:11
Whereas immature people are always building houses of
1:36:13
cards and then they're always falling apart and then they
1:36:15
have to glue them back together with bullshit.
1:36:18
That's basically how that works. Next
1:36:22
way to become mature is follow this principle
1:36:24
of right action as it's called. The principle
1:36:26
of right action. Generally speaking, you know the
1:36:29
right thing
1:36:30
that needs to be done at the right time. You just don't do
1:36:32
it because
1:36:34
you're too irresponsible. So
1:36:36
start doing that.
1:36:43
Next way to become more mature is to pursue
1:36:46
the good life as I call it.
1:36:48
I have many episodes that talk about that
1:36:50
and how to pursue that.
1:36:52
And in general, I'll say this.
1:36:54
Strive to be good. This
1:36:56
notion of being good is underutilized
1:36:59
these days. People aren't talking about it.
1:37:02
Really, you want a good life? Strive to be good. It's
1:37:05
that simple. I
1:37:08
think I've talked about this elsewhere. I have a video
1:37:10
call. I have an episode called What
1:37:15
is goodness? I think something
1:37:17
like that something goodness search for goodness. You'll find
1:37:19
it. It's a good episode. Another
1:37:24
way is to be honest even when it's painful and difficult. Cultivate
1:37:29
that honesty habit. Also discipline
1:37:31
yourself. Work hard. Stop avoiding
1:37:33
hard work. That's half
1:37:35
your problem
1:37:36
right there in life. Just avoiding hard work.
1:37:40
Now, when I say
1:37:42
work hard, that doesn't mean work hard and be dumb
1:37:44
about the way you work. It's not just about the raw quantity
1:37:46
of hours. That's not what hard
1:37:48
work means. To me hard work
1:37:50
also means working smart to
1:37:53
you
1:37:54
put in a lot of hours. I'm not saying
1:37:56
be a workaholic per se. You know, you
1:37:59
can do this at 4.
1:37:59
hours a week you don't need to work much more
1:38:02
than 40 hours a week to work hard but
1:38:04
during those 40 hours really work
1:38:07
and then also make sure that those 40 hours
1:38:09
are going towards something it's
1:38:11
not going to some sort of you know trivial thing
1:38:14
it's going to something important and valuable that's
1:38:16
generating value for the world that's what I consider
1:38:19
serious work expose
1:38:22
yourself to massive life experience
1:38:24
I have a whole episode on that go watch that
1:38:27
take on ever larger challenges challenge
1:38:30
yourself in life rather than waiting for life to challenge
1:38:32
you be
1:38:33
self-directed confront
1:38:35
harsh truths and in general undertake
1:38:38
the journey to pursue truth
1:38:43
truth with the capital T
1:38:46
pursue truth what is truth well I have an episode
1:38:49
what is truth go watch that I'll get you started
1:38:52
I also have an episode how to discover what's true
1:38:54
that's a really good one
1:38:56
something it's a guided inquiry go check
1:38:58
that out
1:39:04
next is do serious spirituality that's
1:39:06
part of this process of pursuing truth
1:39:10
spirituality if you're doing it properly will
1:39:15
disabuse you of many
1:39:17
of your immature ways
1:39:21
practice conscious relationships
1:39:23
that's something I'll have an episode on soon
1:39:25
stay tuned for that have
1:39:28
children but here
1:39:31
in parentheses consciously have
1:39:34
children consciously deliberately
1:39:36
right that's different than just having some
1:39:38
sex at an accidental child
1:39:40
when you're not ready I mean like deliberately
1:39:43
have children
1:39:45
and then really work towards becoming
1:39:47
the best parent you can be I think
1:39:50
very practically that's that's probably an avenue
1:39:52
for most people's maturation in life
1:39:55
if you're not going to do the whole spiritual path do
1:39:57
the family path but do it consciously
1:40:00
Because
1:40:00
if you just do it,
1:40:02
you know flying by the seat your pants
1:40:05
It'll still probably mature you but
1:40:08
not as much as it could like you could really turn
1:40:11
the creation of a family into
1:40:13
a
1:40:14
Into its own whole developmental path
1:40:17
for yourself if you wanted to if that's something
1:40:19
you're interested Of course and
1:40:22
don't have children just for the sake of developing
1:40:24
yourself Actually
1:40:26
want them this is assuming that
1:40:28
you want them Next
1:40:32
is learn to communicate clearly and
1:40:34
to articulate your thoughts and emotions I'll
1:40:37
have a a Few episodes
1:40:40
unclear on clarity and I'll have an episode
1:40:42
on clarity coming soon I'll have an episode on conscious communication.
1:40:44
Stay tuned for that
1:40:46
the next point is study
1:40:49
developmental psychology models
1:40:51
Spital dynamics the nine stages of ego
1:40:53
development by Susan Cook Groyder that model I've shared
1:40:55
both these models you can find episodes and series
1:40:58
that I have on all these models I have multi-part series
1:41:00
on all this
1:41:01
Just reading these models understanding them. This
1:41:04
would this will give you a huge leg
1:41:08
up on Maturing yourself. It
1:41:10
basically shows you a roadmap the psychological
1:41:12
developmental model show you a roadmap of human maturity
1:41:15
This maturity generally takes place in stages
1:41:17
that
1:41:18
have been very well studied
1:41:21
scientifically and outlined for you, so
1:41:23
just go watch that material and
1:41:27
You'll know what your next step is you'll know where
1:41:29
you are and what the next step is what the step is above
1:41:31
that Practice
1:41:34
not knowing From that episode
1:41:37
the power of not knowing very powerful concept
1:41:39
Incredibly powerful concept most people have no idea
1:41:42
the power of this concept not knowing this
1:41:45
is a This
1:41:46
not knowing leads to you to
1:41:48
pure maturity
1:41:50
It's the path the path of
1:41:52
not knowing to maturity
1:41:56
Also, I recommend you stop tolerating immature
1:41:58
people
1:41:59
Call them out on their bullshit as I have done
1:42:02
with Donald Trump. It's one of the reasons I did it here to
1:42:04
demonstrate that to you. But also, if
1:42:07
you're surrounded by immature friends and family,
1:42:09
you got to drop them. If
1:42:13
they're not willing to mature, drop
1:42:16
them. Stop
1:42:21
making promises you can't keep. Think
1:42:25
before you speak. Especially
1:42:29
in this online culture where people are paid
1:42:31
just to speak and to just blabber on and on and on. This
1:42:36
sort of like Joe Rogan type of speech where you just
1:42:38
sit down, you don't think very much, and you
1:42:41
just kind of like gossip and throw, you know, you're just
1:42:43
kind of like spitball and spitball and shit. Let's just spitball
1:42:45
shit in public
1:42:46
in front of millions of people. This
1:42:48
has become normalized as if
1:42:50
this is a healthy way of
1:42:52
using your fucking mouth. Healthy way
1:42:55
of using your fucking mouth and mind. It's
1:42:57
not.
1:42:58
In the past, humans would think for
1:43:00
hours, for years, for decades before they spoke.
1:43:04
Today, some idiot turns on a microphone and
1:43:06
earns a hundred million dollars just spitball
1:43:08
and bullshit.
1:43:10
And conspiracy theories and shit like that and gossip
1:43:13
online.
1:43:13
And this, this gets rewarded as some sort of
1:43:16
height and pinnacle of success. I mean, it's preposterous.
1:43:21
Do you know how much time I think before I fucking
1:43:23
speak to you? I
1:43:26
exhaust myself. I
1:43:28
exhaust myself. I had to take a
1:43:30
nap today before speaking to
1:43:33
you because I exhausted myself for hours
1:43:35
thinking about what I'm going to speak to you about.
1:43:40
Because it's so important. Because
1:43:43
that's what a mature person would do. A mature
1:43:46
person would not sit and speak for
1:43:48
hours to you about some some horseshit
1:43:51
that his mind just spun up in
1:43:53
the spur of the moment.
1:44:01
I exhaust myself to
1:44:08
speak to you because
1:44:12
that's the only responsible way to speak.
1:44:16
When you have a big platform,
1:44:18
an influence,
1:44:21
what kind of influence do you have?
1:44:29
Think before you speak. If
1:44:37
our ancestors saw the way
1:44:39
that
1:44:43
people speak these days online,
1:44:46
they would be ashamed and disgusted. The
1:44:51
only reason
1:44:53
we're not aware of it very much these days
1:44:55
is because it's like we've been boiled
1:44:58
alive like a frog in water
1:45:01
as the internet
1:45:03
was coming online slowly over a few decades.
1:45:06
We slowly boil ourselves
1:45:07
alive.
1:45:13
To develop more maturity, stop acting
1:45:15
defensively. Stop defending and justifying
1:45:17
yourself.
1:45:20
Reflect on all the ways you've been immature
1:45:22
in the past.
1:45:25
The key question to ask yourself here is, what
1:45:27
are all the ways I've been immature in the past?
1:45:32
You should be able to come up with a very long list.
1:45:36
Just think about those. Here's
1:45:41
a few other questions to contemplate. Which
1:45:43
parts of me are mature and
1:45:45
which parts of me are immature? Because you've
1:45:48
got both. You're not, even if you're a very immature person,
1:45:50
you've got some mature aspects to you, of course.
1:45:56
And then of course, even if you're a very mature person,
1:45:58
you've got some immature aspects to you. Now
1:46:03
you might say, Leo, well, aren't you guilty
1:46:06
of immaturity yourself?
1:46:09
Of course, of course.
1:46:12
I've said immature things. I've done
1:46:14
immature things
1:46:15
both on camera and off camera.
1:46:18
Of course, that's been part of my maturation
1:46:20
process,
1:46:21
part of my evolution and development.
1:46:24
But overall,
1:46:28
I've always been exceptionally
1:46:30
mature ever since I
1:46:32
was a kid. I remember in school, it was kind of
1:46:34
like...
1:46:38
I was probably the most mature person in my school, honestly,
1:46:42
for my age. And I'm talking about, like, high
1:46:44
school.
1:46:46
And, like, it just boggled my mind,
1:46:49
like, how these kids could be, like, running around,
1:46:51
having sex, smoking weed, socializing,
1:46:54
going to parties, doing all this stupid shit, drinking.
1:46:56
To me, it was like, what the fuck are you doing?
1:47:04
But of course, yeah, there's still plenty of immaturity
1:47:06
in Maine. I mean, I've... frankly,
1:47:09
I've...
1:47:12
I've grown out of a lot of it over the last 10 years, but
1:47:15
there's still some left,
1:47:16
for sure. For sure. To be,
1:47:19
like, perfectly mature, that's so fucking
1:47:21
difficult. Honestly, when I think about it, like, it makes me
1:47:23
kind of, like, like, ugh. It's
1:47:27
like, that's not easy to do. I don't
1:47:29
look forward to doing that. It
1:47:33
requires so much sacrifice, so much surrendering,
1:47:36
like, man,
1:47:38
it's difficult. You
1:47:41
might say, well, Leo, but doesn't
1:47:44
this... Why did you shoot this episode? Because
1:47:46
it sounds like what you did here, you just gave another
1:47:48
list for what wisdom is. Isn't maturity
1:47:50
just wisdom? And you already have an episode called
1:47:52
What is Wisdom, where basically you outline the difference between wisdom,
1:47:54
you give a list of wisdom, and you give a list about
1:47:57
what foolishness is, so isn't... The
1:48:00
same there's a lot of overlap
1:48:02
isn't there and my answer to that is yes,
1:48:04
of course It's basically
1:48:06
the same list but look Which
1:48:10
you have to understand don't take this for granted
1:48:13
We began remember we began this episode
1:48:15
sort of like not knowing what maturity was
1:48:18
it wasn't clear wasn't defined and
1:48:20
We didn't know where it would lead exactly
1:48:23
when you're doing one of these philosophical Enquiries
1:48:26
you don't know where it's gonna lead you might sit there for
1:48:28
hours doing this inquiry on maturity Then at
1:48:30
some point after like
1:48:32
five hours you realize oh well maturity
1:48:34
is just the same thing as wisdom Of course that
1:48:36
I already knew what wisdom was
1:48:38
Yeah, but you didn't know that maturity was equivalent
1:48:40
to wisdom It took you five hours of contemplating
1:48:42
to get there
1:48:43
and now that you've equated those two things don't
1:48:46
take that for granted as something Insignificant
1:48:48
when you make an equation between two
1:48:51
important concepts like wisdom and
1:48:53
maturity
1:48:56
or maturity and
1:48:59
selflessness for example or
1:49:02
Maturity and consciousness when you connect
1:49:04
these things it might seem like well, you're just saying
1:49:06
the same things over and over
1:49:09
again, but it's like no you're making deeper connections
1:49:11
in your mind and
1:49:14
That
1:49:16
depth of understanding is important see understanding
1:49:18
is not just a binary thing where it's like oh you understand it
1:49:20
or you don't it's like no how deeply do you understand
1:49:23
it because the more deeply you understand the more it's gonna
1:49:25
transform life and Your
1:49:28
life can be transformed in many different degrees
1:49:30
So don't think that you're just wasting time by
1:49:32
you know Oh, well this episode
1:49:34
was
1:49:34
kind of similar and repeat of the old episode. It's
1:49:36
like no I don't try to repeat content I'm
1:49:39
very careful about that if I think that two episodes
1:49:41
are really the same thing. I don't record
1:49:43
them I Try
1:49:47
to hit it from different angles so you can equate things
1:49:49
and connect things this connection and equation
1:49:51
this is critical critical
1:49:54
to this work and To
1:49:57
helping you to become more mature Because
1:50:01
a lot of times you can understand a thing but you only understand
1:50:03
it from one angle and then you can't recognize
1:50:05
it from another angle. So to be able to recognize
1:50:07
the same thing from multiple angles, this
1:50:10
is not common. Not
1:50:16
common at all. And
1:50:19
this is part of our work here together. Now
1:50:24
you might say, well, but Leo, I mean, man,
1:50:26
it kind of sounds like you're making,
1:50:29
becoming mature, like this obligation,
1:50:31
this chore that I have to do. And
1:50:33
isn't this kind of like a not
1:50:36
a very fun way to live? What if I
1:50:38
want to live more adventurously and
1:50:41
spontaneously in a sort of maybe
1:50:43
even more feminine fashion, a more chaotic fashion? Isn't
1:50:46
like maturity for square people and, you
1:50:48
know, only certain kinds of people.
1:50:51
Why become mature after
1:50:53
all if it's so much hard work? Well,
1:51:00
maturity is not just for men or for women.
1:51:03
And it's not just for one personality type or another. Maturity
1:51:06
is something much more fundamental than that.
1:51:10
And I suggest that no
1:51:11
matter what kind of person you are, what kind of lifestyle
1:51:13
you want to have, and you can have more spontaneous,
1:51:15
more adventurous lifestyles versus not,
1:51:19
maturity is probably something you want to seriously
1:51:22
consider.
1:51:23
Why?
1:51:24
Because it's going to
1:51:26
help you substantially with your
1:51:28
relationships.
1:51:30
It's going to give you more stability and peace of mind.
1:51:33
It's going to reduce suffering significantly for
1:51:35
you.
1:51:38
It will lessen conflict
1:51:41
and you will have less instances
1:51:43
of getting into trouble. Immature people get
1:51:45
themselves into a lot of trouble. And a lot
1:51:47
of times they're not as lucky as a Donald Trump.
1:51:51
Trump is extremely lucky
1:51:53
that he didn't get himself into more trouble than he already did.
1:51:57
And his trouble
1:51:59
ain't over yet. Also,
1:52:03
more success. Sure,
1:52:06
these days, many celebrities
1:52:08
and very successful people, they can become successful
1:52:11
even though they're very
1:52:11
immature. That's possible, but generally
1:52:14
speaking, being immature is
1:52:16
not a good strategy for becoming successful.
1:52:22
It can work, but
1:52:26
in general, immature people are not
1:52:29
successful people for the most part because
1:52:32
they just can't maintain the consistency
1:52:35
that's required to achieve solid
1:52:38
success.
1:52:39
Or their success is very rocky. They get
1:52:41
it and then they lose it,
1:52:44
which is, why would you want that kind of success?
1:52:46
You want solid success. And
1:52:49
if you've been, especially if you've been struggling,
1:52:51
maybe you've tried to become successful. Maybe you
1:52:53
tried to launch a business
1:52:55
or you
1:52:57
tried to make some money, right? You
1:53:02
tried to become successful and it's
1:53:04
failing and failing and failing and failing. Well,
1:53:08
maybe now you're getting sick of the fact
1:53:10
that you're too immature to do that and
1:53:12
that what's necessary is not some sort
1:53:14
of
1:53:15
business in a box, get rich quick scheme or some crypto
1:53:18
thing. No, you need some, you need to go deeper
1:53:20
into the foundation of your psyche and personality
1:53:22
and look at your immaturity. How
1:53:25
do you fix your immaturity so that you could then
1:53:27
run a stable successful business over
1:53:29
years?
1:53:33
That's probably the kind of solution you're going to need.
1:53:39
More satisfaction. There's
1:53:41
a kind of deep, higher
1:53:46
quality satisfaction that comes with
1:53:48
living a mature life that the
1:53:50
immature person cannot
1:53:52
even fathom or appreciate. to
1:54:01
live a more profound life. If you want a
1:54:03
profound life, which is what I teach, if
1:54:06
you're interested in that notion, then
1:54:10
you can't get that through immaturity. The
1:54:13
path is the path of maturity,
1:54:16
the path of consciousness, the path of wisdom, the
1:54:18
path of goodness, the path
1:54:20
of
1:54:24
introspection, contemplation, the
1:54:28
path of selflessness.
1:54:32
Selflessness. And
1:54:36
ultimately the reason you want to pursue
1:54:40
maturity is consider
1:54:44
this.
1:54:46
This is where we wrap up.
1:54:48
I want you to consider mature love.
1:54:55
Consider that there's such a thing as immature love
1:54:57
and then there's
1:54:58
mature love. And
1:55:03
that this is the biggest thing that
1:55:05
you're missing. And
1:55:07
that this is ultimately the whole
1:55:10
point of life and human development
1:55:12
is
1:55:13
to go from immature love to
1:55:16
mature love. And
1:55:19
then the deepest satisfaction you get is mature
1:55:23
love.
1:55:23
But the question is, what
1:55:26
is mature love? And
1:55:29
that's something that is so
1:55:32
profound
1:55:33
that it goes beyond the scope of this episode
1:55:36
and I'm not going to elaborate upon it here. If
1:55:38
you want you can find other episodes.
1:55:41
What is love part one? What is love part
1:55:43
two? And
1:55:45
plenty of others. There's another one I have called
1:55:47
How to Practice Love. Those
1:55:52
will get you started towards understanding of
1:55:54
mature love. But
1:55:56
that's what
1:55:59
I'm going to talk about.
1:56:00
That's really the prize. That's why
1:56:02
you're doing all the sacrificing. That's
1:56:05
why you're putting in the work.
1:56:09
That's why you become an adult,
1:56:12
is to experience mature love. The
1:56:31
desire to develop yourself
1:56:34
and an interest in self-help,
1:56:37
I would suggest, is
1:56:38
a hallmark of maturity. Most
1:56:41
people
1:56:42
are not that interested in self-help.
1:56:44
In fact,
1:56:46
a lot of people like to shit on self-help,
1:56:49
to
1:56:51
be cynical about self-help,
1:56:56
to dissuade you from doing self-help, talking
1:56:58
about it as some kind of scam or something.
1:57:02
These are people who are not interested in developing themselves. This
1:57:06
is not the kind of people you want to surround yourself with. So
1:57:09
if you're the kind of person who's interested in self-help,
1:57:11
that alone is enough.
1:57:15
I
1:57:18
can work with that. I can work on you. I can
1:57:20
help you, if you're that kind of person. Because
1:57:23
that's the little, that's the diamond in
1:57:25
the rough. See, we can take that diamond and we can polish it
1:57:27
up. That's what
1:57:29
I teach is self-help. So
1:57:35
recognize that diamond in the rough within
1:57:37
you, and now just spend the next decade or two polishing
1:57:39
it up,
1:57:41
by pursuing your passion, following
1:57:43
up on your passion of self-help.
1:57:45
Reading the books,
1:57:48
watching the content, going to workshops, so forth, do that. If
1:57:51
you've got that itch,
1:57:53
that passion for self-help the way that I did when
1:57:55
I first discovered it, maybe 15 years
1:57:58
ago or so,
1:57:59
Do that.
1:58:01
That's crucial. And also
1:58:03
an interest in spirituality, serious
1:58:06
spirituality. That's also a hallmark of maturity.
1:58:09
That's also a little seed, a little
1:58:11
kernel, a little diamond in the rough that needs to be
1:58:13
polished up over decades.
1:58:17
That's key.
1:58:20
Don't overlook that. Prize that in yourself. You have
1:58:22
something in you, you have that diamond in the rough within
1:58:24
you. You are a diamond in the rough and we're gonna polish you
1:58:26
up
1:58:28
through this work. In
1:58:33
conclusion, immature people are devils
1:58:37
and mature people are gods.
1:58:40
And
1:58:42
of course as God, you gain access
1:58:44
to infinite love.
1:58:45
And
1:58:49
of course that's all there is.
1:58:52
And that's all that life is about.
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