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What Is Maturity?

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0:11

Maturity is achieved when a person

0:14

postpones immediate pleasures for

0:16

long-term values. A

0:18

quote by Rabbi Joshua Liebman.

0:22

Star Trek was an attempt to say

0:25

humanity will reach maturity and wisdom

0:27

on the day that it begins not just to

0:30

tolerate but to take a special delight

0:32

in differences in ideas and differences

0:34

in life forms.

0:37

A quote by Gene Roddenberry, the

0:40

creator of Star Trek.

0:43

What is maturity? Let's

0:47

contemplate that, shall we? Let's

0:49

contemplate it together.

0:51

Have you noticed that some people are mature

0:54

and others, in fact most, are

0:56

immature? Surely you've

0:58

noticed this in your short period

1:00

on this planet. Have you ever wondered

1:03

what makes that difference? And

1:05

why would anyone want to be mature? And

1:08

what is the process for how to become mature?

1:11

What does that even mean? What does that look

1:13

like? I'm

1:15

going to give you an extensive list here of what

1:18

constitutes maturity and immaturity. But

1:22

I also want to help you, not just to give you the answers,

1:24

but to help you to contemplate this stuff for yourself.

1:27

Because it's not obvious what maturity is.

1:30

It's difficult to define. I had to spend

1:32

many hours contemplating it, explicating

1:35

it to myself so that I could

1:36

share it here with you.

1:39

But let's start off our inquiry here

1:42

by acknowledging that you don't know

1:44

what maturity is. I

1:46

mean, you know what that word means. You can look it

1:48

up in the dictionary. But what does it really look

1:51

like to be a mature human being? What

1:53

is that process? And what kind of behaviors

1:56

constitute that? That's

1:58

not obvious. A

2:03

lot of immature people don't know.

2:07

So how do you solve this problem if you don't know? Where do

2:09

you go to get the answers?

2:11

Where am I getting the answers? Well, I'm contemplating.

2:15

This is a process I've explained in the past. Go watch my

2:17

videos that explain how to contemplate,

2:20

how to contemplate using a journal and so

2:22

forth, how to ask powerful questions.

2:26

So what you do is you start just wondering

2:29

and contemplating from scratch. It's

2:32

always good just to begin from scratch because

2:35

answers coming from other people can distort

2:37

your thinking and already they will skew and bias

2:39

your mind into thinking along some sort

2:41

of predefined direction towards some

2:43

kind of ideology, dogma, groupthink,

2:46

that sort of thing. It's always good to just think independently

2:48

from scratch about these things.

2:50

Then you can, you have a chance

2:52

to generate some original answers

2:55

and then you can later compare notes with

2:58

what other people have said online.

3:02

So here's a question. What are some of the clearest examples

3:04

of maturity that you can think of?

3:08

Surely you've run across people who are mature

3:10

in your life and you've run across many who are immature.

3:14

But then if you look at their behaviors, what is it actually

3:16

that made you say, oh, that's a very immature person

3:18

or that's a very mature person

3:20

or that's a book written by a very mature person that

3:23

contains a lot of very mature

3:25

wisdom about life?

3:29

Or you see some celebrity on TV behaving

3:31

immaturely. What

3:34

does that look like? What are they doing?

3:37

So

3:39

the most powerful way that I know how to contemplate, and

3:41

I'm teaching you here how to contemplate.

3:44

This is a contemplation exercise. I want you to actually try

3:46

some of this stuff.

3:47

But the way that I start to contemplate a topic

3:49

from completely from scratch is

3:51

I ask myself, okay, what are some examples of

3:53

the thing that I'm working on? Because if I'm working on some

3:55

abstraction like maturity, that's a very

3:57

abstract concept, maturity, what the hell does that even mean?

3:59

So

4:02

you have to make

4:04

it concrete with examples. So

4:06

I pull up in my mind at least one

4:09

example of the most immature person I know and

4:11

the most mature person I know then I just ask myself questions

4:13

like well what's the difference between them?

4:20

Who do you know or have met who is obviously

4:22

immature? In what

4:27

ways do they behave that make you think so? This

4:34

is stuff I want you to actually contemplate.

4:37

Pause and contemplate this.

4:39

Write down some answers.

4:41

Now maturity is not a matter

4:43

of age.

4:45

Many adults and old people can be immature. Although

4:48

it's interesting because generally speaking the

4:51

more

4:53

people age the more mature they become. So

4:55

there is some correlation between age

4:57

and maturity but it's by no means a perfect correlation.

5:02

Because

5:02

of course one of the things we say is that we commonly

5:04

say that children are immature. That's the

5:06

difference supposedly between a child and adult. The

5:09

child's immature and adult is mature. So

5:12

that's another way to you know another angle from which to

5:14

kind of look at this issue is what's

5:17

the difference between adult and children? Adults

5:20

and children. Fundamentally

5:23

what's the difference there? What are they doing differently?

5:26

How is the child behaving immaturely

5:28

and how is the adult behaving

5:30

maturely? Now of course a lot

5:33

of adults these days are children. So

5:37

you have to be careful with that. You can't just assume that every adult

5:39

is mature. Some children are more mature than some adults.

5:42

But generally speaking this is the case.

5:44

And then that makes you wonder well but

5:47

why?

5:48

Why does age make one more

5:50

mature? What does age have to do with

5:52

it?

5:53

Even though it's not a perfect correlation.

5:56

And what does it look like and what does it mean

5:59

to mature with it? age? What

6:03

is doing the maturing there? And

6:07

why are children generally immature? Why aren't

6:10

children born mature? These

6:13

are like very fundamental questions.

6:18

maturity is not a binary. So

6:20

it's not an on off switch. It's a spectrum. Of

6:22

course,

6:23

you can have more and more and more levels of

6:25

maturity. And

6:28

you can have a mixed bag, you can have a person who's mature

6:30

in many ways, but then immature in certain other areas

6:33

of life. A lot of times people have imbalanced

6:36

lopsided development, for example, someone could be mature

6:39

in many different

6:42

ways, but then immature sexually,

6:45

immature in their relationships,

6:48

immature in their spiritual development,

6:50

or in their

6:51

understanding of spirituality, metaphysics,

6:54

epistemology, or

6:57

immature morally.

7:02

So

7:04

just because someone is generally mature

7:06

doesn't mean they have all their bases covered. In fact,

7:08

most likely, you're going to have at

7:10

least one or two areas where you're

7:12

really struggling, and you're strongly deficient.

7:18

Then also, you have to wonder what are the costs

7:21

of being mature or becoming

7:23

mature?

7:24

Is maturity something that you're just born

7:26

with? There are some people who are genetically

7:28

more mature than other people?

7:31

Or is maturity something you have to develop over time?

7:34

And if you're going to develop it over time, first of all,

7:36

why would you want to? And second

7:38

of all, what's

7:40

the cost? Because supposedly, if

7:42

it was just all upside and no downside, wouldn't

7:46

everybody be developing maturity, then

7:49

everybody would be mature. And if you look around in our

7:51

society and our culture, actually, most

7:53

people are very immature.

7:55

How come? But

7:59

then you to wonder so

8:02

then if there are costs to being mature

8:04

does that mean I should just

8:06

stay immature but then what are the costs of staying

8:08

immature

8:10

and which costs are greater

8:14

so these are all questions to get your mind jogging

8:16

and thinking and I should I really want you to contemplate

8:19

this on your own but you know since

8:21

I want to provide you with some value here in this in

8:23

this episode let me give you some extensive

8:25

lists of my own conclusions

8:28

from my own contemplations on these questions so

8:31

list number one is what is maturity first

8:35

and foremost at the top of my list is taking

8:37

on responsibility

8:39

versus blaming others

8:42

this is like

8:44

the quick litmus test

8:47

for gauging someone's maturity

8:52

an immature person is going to blame somebody

8:54

else they're

8:56

not going to take ownership over situations

9:00

they need other people to go them into doing

9:02

things and taking ownership whereas

9:06

a mature person

9:09

takes on the responsibility willingly

9:12

consciously

9:16

doesn't wait around for others to

9:18

to do it for them

9:21

doesn't need some sort of extrinsic prodding

9:25

either by humans or by nature

9:31

very irresponsible people immature people

9:33

what they do is they just they wait for

9:35

reality to get

9:37

so dire and bad that then they're

9:39

just forced to do a thing

9:41

whereas the hallmark of maturity

9:44

is that you can motivate yourself

9:46

to do something you know you should be doing

9:48

the right thing so to speak

9:50

without having to

9:52

be in pain

9:55

and suffering from external circumstances

9:58

like for example going

9:59

down

9:59

broken, running completely out of money.

10:02

That would be an immature person's response

10:04

to the financial situation, right? It's like, I'm

10:08

just gonna spend all my money and then

10:10

I'm only gonna worry about

10:12

running out of money once I'm out of money, but then the problem

10:14

is it's too late. It's very difficult to then

10:17

do anything about that situation, right? A mature person

10:19

will worry about their money situation

10:22

long before they ever run out of money and therefore

10:24

they never will. And

10:27

they take responsibility for that.

10:32

Maturity is knowing that you can act like a child,

10:36

but consciously choosing not to. It's

10:40

doing the right thing at the right time rather

10:42

than putting it off,

10:44

which requires discipline.

10:46

Immature people are not able to discipline themselves

10:50

and they put stuff off and they put stuff off and they

10:52

put stuff off and they don't do the right thing

10:55

at the right time and most of the time,

10:57

most of us know the right thing to do

11:00

and the right time to do it, but

11:03

we're just so irresponsible and

11:06

immature that we find

11:08

ways to avoid it.

11:10

So maturity is letting go of that

11:12

sort of avoidance mechanism

11:15

that is there in the ego mind.

11:18

It's taking on emotionally difficult

11:21

things in life,

11:23

doing things that are challenging and

11:25

life will present you with many challenges.

11:28

To live the good life, you have to take on these

11:30

emotionally difficult tasks or

11:32

what you can do is you can play avoidance games, which

11:34

is what the immature person does.

11:37

So maturity is saying no to those

11:40

kind of avoidance games. Maturity

11:44

also means work ethic, not

11:47

expecting shortcuts, being

11:49

willing to work towards

11:52

certain higher values that you have.

11:55

So one of the hallmarks of an immature

11:57

person is that they're lazy and they don't wanna work.

12:00

towards the things that are good for them or

12:03

that they want. You might want

12:05

something, but then when you find out the work

12:07

that it takes to get it, you're like,

12:11

I would rather just sit it on the couch and

12:13

play video games and smoke weed and jerk off.

12:16

The mature person understands

12:21

that working

12:24

for the things that you really value, this builds

12:29

character in you.

12:33

This is not something that should be avoided. It

12:36

is not the ideal situation where

12:38

you get everything you want in life the easy way

12:40

through shortcuts and it all works out and

12:43

there's no challenge. The

12:46

mature person doesn't even want that kind of life, you see. The

12:49

immature person thinks that that's the ideal life. And

12:52

then the immature person whines and complains about

12:54

how, oh, well, why does life

12:56

have to be so difficult?

12:58

Whereas the mature person understands that what makes

13:00

life meaningful

13:02

at all is that you have to work for these things that

13:04

you truly value, that they're not easy. And

13:07

if they were easy and you can get them just by

13:09

snapping your fingers and people just gave them to you, then

13:12

they wouldn't be worth anything.

13:14

And then you wouldn't really want them.

13:16

The reason you want them is because they're

13:21

rare and the reason they're rare is because you've got

13:23

to work for it. So

13:32

I like to judge people's character

13:34

by looking at what is their work ethic.

13:37

Are they the kind of people that like to avoid work at

13:39

all costs and do the bare minimum amount of

13:41

work?

13:43

This tells you almost everything you know about a person's

13:45

character

13:47

right there.

13:48

That's not a serious human being.

13:51

There is no good lifestyle. I mean, like

13:53

I don't mean lifestyle.

13:55

I mean, living the good life.

13:56

This is something

13:58

a little bit more deeper than just lifestyle.

13:59

But this this concept I've

14:02

talked about before living the good life. There is no living

14:04

the good life and having it easy Nobody

14:08

who lives the good life has it easy Because

14:12

you can't live the good life just by getting lucky and getting

14:14

much of money. That's not going to produce the good life for

14:16

you and

14:20

a mature person understands this and

14:23

That these challenges that life confronts you

14:25

with that. This is actually a character

14:27

building exercise and opportunity

14:30

And that's really the point of life

14:33

So

14:34

what's the point in trying to run away from it or avoid

14:36

it?

14:40

To be mature is to face the

14:42

challenges of life gracefully

14:46

Sometimes life gets extremely challenging

14:49

That's when you're really tested and that's

14:52

when the immature person will crumble and

14:54

the mature person will

14:57

Demonstrate his

14:58

or her true character facing

15:01

that challenge rather than running away from it

15:05

Now, of course, it doesn't mean that you're gonna succeed

15:08

or do it perfectly

15:10

but at least the

15:13

willingness to take on that challenge

15:15

and To give

15:17

it your best Maturity

15:20

is also a sense of duty Duty

15:23

to others to your community to

15:25

mankind and even

15:28

beyond that to the entire universe

15:33

Your life is about something more than just

15:37

Selfishly trying to entertain

15:40

yourself or amuse yourself

15:45

Maturity is the ability to sacrifice

15:48

for higher values Which

15:51

of course requires having a good discernment

15:53

of what are the higher values and That's not always

15:56

easy because a lot of times people get confused and they Think

16:00

of higher value things as money or sex

16:02

or something like that, success, fame,

16:06

that those become traps. So the

16:08

ability to discern what is a higher value, what's

16:10

not a higher value, those can be counterintuitive.

16:15

And it's also the ability to commit because

16:21

to live a life to the higher

16:24

values that you have, you're going to have to make certain commitments

16:27

and stick with those over long periods of time.

16:29

This is not something you can achieve with short term thinking.

16:37

As I was contemplating this question of what

16:39

is maturity, this following

16:41

anecdote came to mind

16:44

and I was just thinking recently about

16:46

how having

16:48

a child is

16:51

one of the greatest responsibilities you can

16:53

take on in life, having a child.

16:55

It'll change your whole life. Even though I don't have

16:57

children, it's obvious to me that this is

16:59

how it works. You just think about

17:01

it for a little bit. You don't really appreciate

17:04

the responsibility your parents took on until

17:06

you're much older. The

17:08

kind of responsibility they had raising you, especially

17:11

if you had decent parents who weren't

17:14

completely immature and they were there for you,

17:17

they weren't negligent parents, they

17:19

didn't run away or anything like that. If they were

17:21

there for you and they worked for you and they raised

17:24

you reasonably well,

17:26

you

17:28

have to get into your late 30s and 40s

17:32

to start to

17:34

appreciate just

17:36

the enormity of the task that your parents

17:38

had to raise you well

17:41

and how much they sacrificed and what kind

17:44

of enormous responsibility took from them and

17:46

the kind of enormous maturity it took from them, even

17:48

if they weren't perfectly mature and they did immature

17:51

stuff, of course.

17:53

That's a given, but nevertheless,

17:56

compare to who they

17:58

used to be before they had you.

18:00

You don't even know what your parents were like before they had

18:02

you how irresponsible and immature

18:05

they were

18:06

Your birth made them a lot more mature

18:10

They take you wild realize that At

18:14

least you know in in in most

18:16

cases of course there's Examples

18:19

of very bad parenting and very immature parenting.

18:21

So maybe maybe you got unlucky but

18:25

I Submit to you the following consider that the

18:27

day that your child is born if you ever

18:29

have a child

18:31

You will realize and

18:32

in that day

18:34

your whole life will change because you will realize

18:36

Holy shit. My life is no longer

18:38

primarily about serving myself

18:41

Now I have to be a responsible adult

18:44

for the sake of someone else And

18:49

Then later when your child is crying

18:52

You know when the when your child is 10 years old or something

18:54

your child is crying But you're very

18:56

tired You had a long day at work and you're just you

18:58

just come home after 10 hours of working and now

19:01

you turn on the TV You just want to relax for a little bit

19:03

before you go to bed You're

19:05

dead tired and then your child

19:07

is there crying in the other room You

19:12

have two options there you can keep watching your TV

19:14

and just tune the child out or

19:16

You can get up and attend to your child

19:20

That would be the mature option

19:25

And that's sacrifice you're sacrificing for

19:27

something higher

19:28

something beyond you

19:32

You're living for something beyond you

19:35

So consider how you would handle

19:37

that kind of situation imagine

19:40

you had a child tomorrow Would

19:42

you be mature enough to handle?

19:45

Taking care of that child because see taking

19:47

care of that child means you have to set all your personal

19:50

issues aside You know your personal sexual

19:52

cravings your desire to have fun your

19:54

desire to do drugs and smoke weed and do psychedelics

19:57

Your desire to slack off and to go partying

19:59

clubbing all this kind of stuff this

20:02

would all

20:02

this would all have to take us you know a back

20:04

seat

20:05

to the needs of your Child if your child

20:07

is sick you got to get up in the middle of the night

20:10

take them to a hospital If

20:13

your child's getting bad grades of school you got to deal with

20:16

that and it's just a never-ending stream

20:18

of this for 20 years And

20:22

You never know how your

20:24

child is gonna turn out your child could

20:27

Maybe you do all that perfectly and your

20:29

child is a sort of a straight-a student

20:31

and all that kind of stuff and you're proud of your Child,

20:33

but you know what there's no guarantee You could

20:36

be the best parent and your

20:38

child just gets involved with the wrong crowd Starts

20:40

doing drugs starts doing vandalism

20:43

joins a gang

20:45

Starts robbing people starts

20:47

doing violence maybe even murder someone That

20:52

could happen too And

20:55

that's largely out of your control That's

21:03

some serious maturity right there that takes a lot

21:05

of maturity to deal with that kind of stuff

21:08

Just even for example, let's say your child is

21:11

born with a birth defect

21:15

Just even taking even dealing

21:18

with that Health, you know

21:20

serious health complications you like imagine

21:22

you're born with a crippled I mean your yeah, your

21:25

child is born crippled or something like that and then you

21:27

have to deal with that for the rest of your life imagine how

21:30

What kind of burden that puts on you?

21:32

That takes enormous maturity to

21:35

to stick with that to not run away from that kind

21:37

of situation to embrace it to accept

21:39

it To still love your child despite

21:41

all that

21:48

So good parenting

21:51

being a good parent is is

21:54

Is also another one of those litmus tests.

21:56

That's like

21:58

That's like such a

22:00

such an honest signal

22:03

kind of litmus test you can't fake being a good

22:05

parent

22:09

that takes enormous maturity you

22:11

can't be a good parent and be

22:14

immature another

22:17

important aspect of maturity

22:20

is self-control

22:23

immaturity is being constantly lost

22:25

in your own emotions unable

22:26

to act consistently gently

22:29

peacefully deliberately

22:32

you're too chaotic you're all over the place your

22:34

mind is all over the place you're

22:40

lost in drama

22:42

so knowing how to handle your emotions emotional

22:45

maturity is a hallmark of

22:47

I mean sorry emotional mastery

22:49

is a hallmark of maturity not

22:53

getting triggered so easily by things people

22:55

say or do this

22:58

is a notion

23:00

known as non-reactivity immature

23:04

people are very reactive they get easily offended

23:06

easily triggered because

23:11

they're not in control of their emotions steadiness

23:16

and consistency versus drama and chaos this

23:19

is the difference also

23:23

patience immature

23:26

people are impatient always and

23:29

mature people have cultivated patients

23:35

another key sign

23:37

that I've identified of maturity is the following

23:39

I love this one

23:41

listen to this

23:43

refusing to engage in emotional

23:45

manipulation techniques

23:49

this is huge

23:52

what do I mean by emotional manipulation techniques

23:54

things like blaming scapegoating

23:56

gaslighting denial getting

23:59

triggered

24:00

getting offended,

24:02

losing your temper, projection and rationalization.

24:11

Immature people engage in

24:13

all of this stuff all the time, and

24:15

they don't know how to stop. They don't even understand

24:17

that they're doing it, and they have no shame

24:20

in doing these things. That's

24:22

how unconscious they are. It

24:27

is the hallmark of a mature

24:29

mind to relinquish all

24:31

of these. You

24:35

say no to emotional manipulation techniques. You

24:38

have higher standards for yourself, and you don't

24:40

allow yourself to use these to navigate

24:42

life.

24:46

Now that means you have to forfeit and surrender certain

24:48

benefits that come with using these emotional manipulation

24:50

techniques.

24:55

The mature person doesn't demonize

24:57

straw man and misrepresent. The

25:00

mature person is nonjudgmental

25:05

and non-exploitative. See,

25:09

the immature person will exploit

25:11

any opportunity, because it's just

25:13

a survival mechanism. We've talked about survival.

25:16

Go see my two-part series called

25:18

Understanding Survival, Part 1, Part 2, where we go deep

25:20

on survival, but we're

25:22

bringing that topic in here and connecting it with this,

25:25

is that when you're just running on survival

25:27

all the time, then the easiest

25:30

way to do that is just to be very opportunistic,

25:32

and if you see an opportunity

25:33

to exploit someone, especially another

25:35

human, you do it.

25:40

The mature person says no to that. Even

25:43

when an opportunity presents

25:45

itself to exploit someone, you aren't

25:48

even tempted by it. And

25:52

a mature person undertakes a commitment

25:56

to not manipulate people. Whereas

26:01

immature people are always manipulating

26:03

other people to get their needs met.

26:05

Whereas the mature person finds

26:08

higher quality ways of getting

26:10

his needs met than through this kind

26:12

of manipulation and emotional manipulation

26:15

that we talked about earlier. Now

26:18

this usually means that this kind of mature

26:20

person has to work harder. Because

26:25

you can't just manipulate and exploit somebody real

26:27

quickly, you know, to steal some money or

26:29

scam them or whatever. Or

26:32

to get some sex out of them. You have to actually

26:34

like put in effort. See, an

26:36

immature person could just manipulate somebody to get

26:38

some quick sex.

26:40

But a mature person has higher standards, they

26:42

don't allow themselves to do that. That means they

26:44

sacrifice

26:46

the quantity of sex

26:47

because they have to actually work towards

26:50

building a high quality, relationship

26:53

before they will get the sex.

26:55

And it's not done through some kind of easy manipulation. Likewise

26:58

in business, the difference between an immature business

27:00

person and a mature business person is that the immature

27:02

person will

27:04

just find the fastest opportunity

27:06

to scam somebody out of some money. Whereas

27:08

the mature person isn't interested in doing business that

27:10

way. It's not that he can't.

27:13

He can, it's just that he has a higher standard

27:15

and he doesn't want to do business that way. So

27:17

now it's harder, it's harder to come up

27:20

with a genuine business where I'm

27:22

not exploiting people.

27:24

Because that means I have to generate real value.

27:26

Generating real value takes a lot of hard work. Whereas

27:29

just scamming people is a lot easier. See?

27:34

This

27:34

pretty much explains the whole crypto

27:37

industry right here. Um,

27:42

crypto is immature people looking for a quick profit.

27:45

They're not interested in working. This

27:49

idea of not wanting to do

27:51

genuine work. This is a huge point,

27:54

right? Try to understand it's not just about like, oh,

27:56

I don't want to have a job or, you know, I want to

27:59

optimize my work. It's like there's a whole

28:01

attitude that people have of living

28:03

in a way where they try to avoid doing work and

28:06

not just work But really it's emotional labor

28:09

that you're avoiding

28:11

That's a that's a more general thing I've

28:13

talked about that in

28:15

actually my life purpose course in my life purpose

28:17

course we focus on this issue of avoiding

28:20

emotional labor and how this is

28:22

Really

28:23

tripping up in life

28:26

You can't live a good life without

28:28

taking on emotional labor

28:30

That doesn't just apply to work per se

28:34

It also comes up in relationships and and

28:37

It comes up in this next point which

28:39

is this is also you could I

28:41

mean it's it's hard to say

28:43

Which one of these points is like the topmost

28:45

point? Definitely

28:47

that responsibility point is up there as number one

28:50

maybe and here's probably the

28:52

next one

28:53

is facing truth

28:56

The mature person faces truth And

29:01

the mature person sees the importance

29:03

of facing truth all throughout life

29:05

whereas the immature person is avoiding

29:08

difficult truths

29:10

Because they're inconvenient or they

29:12

impinge on one's fantasies

29:15

See the problem with truth is that it impinges on your

29:17

fantasies It destroys all your fantasies about

29:19

yourself about the world about others about religion

29:21

about politics everything see my episode

29:23

called

29:24

Why

29:28

you avoid the truth So

29:33

That ties in here But

29:36

I want you to contemplate this this

29:38

is this is so central and fundamental to maturity

29:41

is you know facing truth

29:43

and you know Most

29:46

people don't give a shit about truth

29:50

Which immediately tells you

29:52

why most people are immature they don't care about true they

29:54

don't take truth seriously They think they can just kind

29:56

of like skate their way through life without

29:58

taking truth seriously

30:00

how people can even, how

30:04

people can delude themselves into this kind

30:06

of mindset I don't even understand. To me

30:09

truth was important since I was a child but

30:12

then again I was a pretty mature kid. But

30:16

I want you to contemplate this question, why is it immature

30:18

to avoid truth? What is the

30:20

relationship between truth, facing truth

30:23

and maturity? Why are those connected?

30:26

It's not some arbitrary thing, there's

30:28

a deep relationship there. What is that relationship?

30:32

Contemplate that. To

30:36

be mature is to be deeply rooted in

30:39

the reality of things

30:41

rather than lost in wishful thinking and fantasy.

30:44

You see the human mind is so prone

30:46

to spinning its own

30:48

versions of reality and

30:50

avoiding truth and fantasizing

30:53

and justifying itself and then getting lost

30:55

in various kinds of ideological bubbles

30:57

and different worldviews and cults

30:59

and religions in this ideology

31:01

and that philosophy right? This is what the human mind

31:03

is always doing. This is what I've, this

31:06

is what much of my work, my epistemic work

31:08

is about is helping you to avoid these kind

31:10

of self-deceptions of the mind especially

31:13

when it comes to epistemology. But you

31:16

see

31:19

the more immature a person is the worse their worldview

31:22

is. Their worldview is not truthful, it's not accurate.

31:24

They're

31:24

living in a fantasy of some kind

31:27

and then the reason they're acting out so

31:29

immaturely is because they need to

31:31

somehow maintain that fantasy and

31:35

usually that's done through lying, cheating,

31:37

stealing, defrauding, scamming, exploiting,

31:39

manipulating, acting

31:41

out, emotional outbursts, drama,

31:43

all this shit. And

31:49

the more untruthful you are the more these

31:51

sorts of emotional manipulation

31:54

mechanisms you need to

31:57

survive through life. Maturity

32:04

is about deep understanding of situations.

32:08

Because the deeper you can penetrate a situation

32:10

with your understanding, that

32:17

cuts through illusion, you see? Cuts through

32:21

illusion. So

32:23

there is a relationship between illusion and

32:25

immaturity. Immature people are

32:27

under a lot of illusions. Because they don't value truth. And

32:34

because they avoid truth, and

32:37

they think they can get away with that. One

32:43

of the hallmarks of immaturity is thinking you can

32:45

get away with

32:48

untruth, with falsehood.

32:54

The mature person understands that

32:59

truth is such a serious issue,

33:01

that you're really a fool if you think

33:04

you can just skate by through life,

33:07

bobbing and weaving your way, deftly

33:10

avoiding the truth. And thinking

33:12

that you're just going to get by.

33:15

80 years you can do this and get by,

33:17

without consequence.

33:18

This is, to the mature mind,

33:21

this is preposterous. This is a preposterous

33:23

way to live.

33:25

The immature mind actually believes this is

33:27

a good way to live, and that actually it's winning

33:29

at this. Because you can

33:31

do it for a short period of time. For a short

33:33

period of time, maybe even for years or for

33:35

a decade, you can do this. And

33:37

then the immature mind gets convinced

33:40

or fooled, it fools itself, and falls

33:42

into this illusion that it has spun for itself, that actually

33:44

this is going to work.

33:47

You know, it's like, I've cheated a few people, and I've

33:49

made some money, and I'm going to keep doing it, and it's

33:51

going to keep working. This is how the immature

33:53

mind thinks. Or it's like, you know,

33:55

I've manipulated a few of these women to sleep with me, by

33:58

lying to them and cheating on them, all that and it's just going

34:00

to continue I'm just going to continue this and it's going to keep working.

34:09

The next point on maturity is epistemic

34:12

humility. Epistemic

34:16

humility

34:18

and not knowing understanding

34:20

the power and importance of not knowing go see my episode

34:22

the power of not knowing. You

34:26

know a lot less than you think you know the

34:29

mature person understands that the immature person does not

34:32

the immature person does not have epistemic

34:34

humility. So

34:36

I've talked about that a lot in my

34:39

past episodes on epistemology go check

34:41

those out.

34:44

Maturity is being honest versus lying

34:46

cheating.

34:52

Maturity is to be able to see outside

34:54

your own perspective and agenda to see

34:56

from others perspectives

34:58

and immature person is too selfish to

35:00

see outside his own perspective

35:03

and is lost in self bias. Go

35:05

see my episode

35:07

titled

35:08

self bias and another one called

35:11

understanding bias

35:13

very important episodes

35:14

also that relates to truth you know this issue

35:17

of bias why is it so important why do I talk about it a lot

35:19

because again it relates to truth.

35:22

Because the less truthful you are the more illusions

35:24

you're under the more bias you are bias

35:26

is illusion in a sense

35:30

and your own perspective and agenda

35:32

your own survival agenda that is your

35:35

primary source of bias. Another

35:44

point on maturity is to be respectful

35:47

of the sovereignty of others to

35:50

understand the importance that I've talked about that elsewhere the

35:53

sovereignty of others. What

35:56

does that even mean. I've

35:58

explained it elsewhere.

36:02

But basically it means

36:04

understanding that every

36:07

human is a sovereign individual, sovereign consciousness

36:11

and needs to be treated as such.

36:14

As soon as you stop treating people in

36:16

that way by manipulating them and trying to control

36:18

them and push them around and so forth, dominate

36:21

them,

36:23

all hell breaks loose. So

36:29

respecting other sovereignty means not

36:31

trying to control others, not trying to impose

36:33

your agenda on them and your perspective and

36:36

not trying to

36:39

get everyone else to live the way that you live.

36:45

Understanding that

36:48

you don't need to impose yourself on everybody else,

36:51

appreciating that people have unique needs,

36:53

values, strengths, weaknesses,

36:56

personality types

36:58

and everyone has to live their own unique lifestyle.

37:02

So what's an example of an

37:04

application of this? Like this, look, if you're

37:06

an immature parent, you're

37:10

going to try to get your child to

37:12

obey basically your agenda.

37:14

You're going to overlook the sovereignty of your child as an individual

37:17

consciousness and you're just going to say, you know,

37:20

your child might come to you and you might ask your

37:22

child, like, so what do you want to be when you grow up? And the child

37:24

says, I want to be an artist. And you

37:26

say an artist. No, that's nonsense. You're

37:29

going to be a doctor, a lawyer or an accountant, you

37:31

know, a

37:31

real professional or an engineer like

37:35

this.

37:36

And your child will say, no, but I, you

37:38

know, I really have some artistic abilities and I don't

37:40

like accounting and engineering. I'm not good at that. You'll

37:43

say, no, to hell with that. You're just going to become an accountant.

37:46

See this would be an example

37:50

of immature parenting, whereas mature parenting

37:53

would be actually listening to your

37:56

child, evaluating your child's unique

37:59

needs, strengths, and weaknesses, passions

38:01

and predictions and personality type

38:04

and understanding that if your child is not passionate about

38:06

accounting He's never going to become a good accountant in effect

38:10

He'll

38:10

probably quit

38:12

and he'll blame you for it Whereas

38:15

you know if he's got some

38:17

passion for for art. It's your

38:20

job. You see

38:23

The challenge of being a mature adult

38:25

parent is that like you have to set

38:27

aside your own agenda

38:30

And what you want for your child because your child might

38:32

want things that

38:36

Are antithetical to your personality type

38:39

You might think that the things your child is interested in are stupid

38:43

And you have to set that aside and say

38:45

you know what for the good of my child. I can't

38:47

just

38:48

It doesn't really matter what my personal judgment is about

38:50

what he's doing is stupid or not. It's like there's

38:53

a higher There's a higher aspect

38:56

to all this But

38:59

see that requires that's what a mature parent that's

39:01

how a mature parent would would behave

39:04

Usually as a parent the trap

39:06

is that you're going to want to like impose all of your

39:08

values on the child

39:10

Your values your personality type your

39:12

lifestyle and then that's going to create a lot of conflict

39:15

because of course your child has different

39:18

strengths weaknesses personality values and lifestyle

39:20

and That is ideal

39:23

for them than for you. You can't

39:25

just assume that your ideal lifestyle is their

39:27

ideal lifestyle That's

39:34

real difficult to do because you got to step outside of your

39:36

agenda A lot of people are so

39:38

selfish that they they literally cannot do that

39:42

And then that creates a lot of family

39:44

conflict relationship conflict, of course Maturity

39:49

is also the ability to compromise The

39:54

ability to be

39:56

flexible to change your mind see image

39:59

people think that compromise is a

40:02

bad thing, a dirty word, especially

40:04

like in politics. You'll notice this, that

40:07

the most mature politicians understand

40:10

the importance of compromise in a democracy.

40:13

The most immature politicians and

40:17

political actors and activists,

40:22

they view compromise as some kind of evil. They

40:25

want to get everything their way and they want

40:27

to defeat the other side. They actually

40:30

believe they can do that.

40:34

Some conservatives actually believe that they're going

40:36

to destroy liberalism

40:39

and some progressives and leftists believe

40:41

that they're going to destroy and put

40:43

an end to conservatism. See

40:47

some of my videos about conscious politics where

40:51

I discuss about the,

40:53

you know, there's a deep

40:56

immaturity in our political

40:57

climate right now, which is playing

41:00

itself out.

41:01

Very, very immature. Incredibly,

41:03

in fact, I'm shocked at how immature it is. It's

41:06

cartoonishly immature. I'll

41:11

be talking a little bit more about politics

41:14

here in a moment because there's some great examples

41:16

that I just can't resist. You probably

41:18

know which ones, but okay, we'll get

41:20

there in a minute. So yeah, so the ability

41:22

to compromise,

41:24

like you'll see that the

41:26

most senior senators and

41:29

politicians in Congress,

41:31

they're pretty good at compromising.

41:34

Whereas the new ones, there's like a lot

41:36

of sort of like radical, especially on the right wing in American

41:38

politics, there's a lot of radical new

41:41

senators and congresspeople who came

41:44

into power in the last five years, let's

41:46

say, in this MAGA era. And

41:49

you look at these people and they're just, they're

41:52

very passionate, they're unwilling to compromise and

41:54

they think that by doing this, that they're somehow being

41:56

like champions for,

41:58

for

41:59

consumer. conservative values or whatever they believe they're

42:01

defending God or country or whatever, but

42:05

you can tell that these are the most immature, the

42:09

most green, the most ignorant.

42:11

These people know nothing about government. They know nothing

42:14

about serious politics. They haven't, they

42:16

have no understanding of how

42:18

societies develop. They have no understanding

42:20

of history. They're

42:23

just utterly ignorant and

42:26

they're the most unyielding and inflexible. Coincidence?

42:31

I think not. Another

42:36

sign of maturity is taking

42:38

care of your health. Valuing

42:47

your health

42:49

requires a lot of maturity,

42:51

not just valuing it, but acting

42:54

out on that value. Because what does it mean

42:56

to value your health? Well, that means you have to make sacrifices

42:58

in terms of the junk food that you will no longer

43:00

eat. You have to make sacrifices going to the gym.

43:03

You have to make sacrifices going to the doctor when

43:05

maybe you would prefer not to. Getting

43:09

certain procedures done when you would rather put them off.

43:12

See health is one of those things that you take for

43:14

granted when you're young.

43:16

If you're

43:17

in your teens, twenties, thirties, for most

43:19

people, their health is pretty good. They

43:21

can eat junk. They can not exercise.

43:23

They can engage in

43:26

drugs and this kind of stuff recreationally.

43:29

It feels

43:32

like they can get away with it. Well,

43:34

they're being immature. They're

43:36

not thinking long term. They're acting impulsively.

43:43

The more someone takes care of their health, the

43:46

more mature they are.

43:47

That's not easy to do, especially in our modern

43:50

culture and society where on every street corner

43:53

you have junk food

43:54

and it can be difficult sometimes to get high

43:58

quality whole foods.

44:00

organic foods vegetables and fruits

44:02

and so forth raw for raw foods

44:05

and It's

44:07

more expensive to you have to work harder, right? Some

44:11

people say well Leo, but I can't afford healthy food Right

44:15

because see it's not it's not really that

44:17

you can't afford it It's that you have you don't understand

44:19

yet that you have to value it so much that you're gonna go

44:21

you're gonna work harder

44:23

To be able to afford it It's a sacrifice

44:28

Maybe

44:31

in order to afford it you

44:33

have to start a business which means you have to work a lot harder Than

44:35

you would work otherwise But

44:38

then once you get

44:39

that business going after a few years

44:41

now, you can afford all the health food you want

44:43

and not worry about it Whereas

44:46

the immature person will just say well,

44:49

I

44:49

can't afford it and I'm not gonna take responsibility for starting a

44:52

business Because that's too hard and I'm kind of lazy and

44:54

I want to avoid work and

44:56

so therefore I'm just gonna keep eating junk food I'm

44:58

gonna keep complaining and making this excuse that well

45:00

I would eat healthy if I could afford it, but I can't and then

45:02

for the rest of their life They're gonna live

45:05

that way See that's that's

45:07

very irresponsible immature

45:10

behavior You're

45:12

not taking ownership over the situation

45:15

If you can't afford something in life,

45:18

that means take ownership of it and figure out what you're gonna do That means

45:21

take ownership of it and figure out a way to work

45:23

harder and make more money

45:25

By starting a business or getting a promotion

45:27

learning some new skills that will make

45:29

you

45:30

You know Allow you to get hired

45:33

for a higher wage Or just

45:35

work more hours Maturity

45:42

is also experience and familiarity

45:44

with all of the common traps so

45:46

they no longer seduce you Immature

45:49

people are easily seduced by Traps

45:53

like fame sex

45:56

cheating lying scamming

45:58

exploiting manipulating

45:59

These are all traps to

46:02

the mature person

46:05

It's obvious that these kind of things are traps and

46:07

that therefore you should say no to them

46:10

But to the immature person it's not obvious

46:13

that heroin is a trap Believe

46:15

it or not. I mean like to a mature person

46:17

It's so obvious that heroin is a trap that there's

46:19

not even the desire to try heroin

46:21

But to the immature person they can't see that it

46:23

heroin is a trap Or

46:28

that crypto is a trap

46:33

Full disclosure I do own some crypto,

46:36

but the majority of crypto, let's just

46:38

be honest It's just

46:40

it's a it's a scam. It's a trap and

46:44

The reason people get trapped by it is because they

46:46

lack experience. It takes a lot of life experience

46:50

To be able to see the counterintuitive nature of all

46:52

these traps go see my episode The

46:54

counterintuitive nature of life where we talk about that pattern

46:57

that dynamic That

46:59

traps a lot of people Life

47:01

is very counterintuitive. You need a lot of experience falling

47:04

into these traps to to know How

47:08

to avoid them

47:10

And also I have another episode

47:12

called um exposing yourself

47:14

to massive experience I believe that's what it's called something like that

47:16

massive experience search for that term.

47:18

You'll find it

47:20

um And this actually

47:22

answers that earlier question we asked which is

47:25

what does age have to do with maturity? well,

47:28

this is I

47:31

think the core of the answer is that

47:36

When you're born young you're born so

47:38

ignorant so inexperienced that

47:40

you don't know You don't know that walking

47:42

off a cliff is going to kill you. You don't know that yet

47:46

And but for your fear of heights

47:48

you would jump off a cliff that's how stupid a child is So

47:54

just a lack of experience right a

47:56

child doesn't even know that sticking his

47:58

hand on a stove is going to hurt that

48:00

takes experience to know that and And

48:04

then just you know there's a lot of examples

48:06

that these are just very obvious examples But there's a lot of much

48:08

more subtle examples. You know a child

48:10

doesn't know that crypto is a scam Whereas

48:13

an adult should should know that for example

48:17

But you know there's a lot of adults who are children and

48:19

who don't know that or at least what we

48:21

could say is that More accurately is that they're financially

48:24

immature. There's a lot of financially immature people

48:29

Most are that way that's

48:31

why most people are broke a

48:34

lot of his financial immaturity

48:36

You know capitalism

48:38

has some issues to do with it as well, but um But

48:41

you know a lot of people if you gave them if you gave a million

48:43

dollars They would lose it within a couple of years

48:46

because they're so financially immature They

48:48

would invest it in crypto and other stupid

48:50

shit

48:51

and lose it So yeah

48:58

Generally speaking the more you age the more experience

49:01

the more life experience of course you have the more traps

49:03

you've fallen into the more mistakes You've made and you learn

49:05

not to make those mistakes again So that's

49:08

why the older you get the more mature you tend

49:10

to get although. It's not it's

49:12

not guaranteed Maturity

49:16

is the ability to anticipate problems and address them preemptively

49:19

before things get out of hand Maturity

49:22

is the ability to make long-term decisions based on

49:24

solid principles Immature

49:27

people don't have any principles

49:29

or even if they do have some principles. It's just purely

49:31

theoretical They can't actualize

49:34

or embody their principles or act out

49:36

their principles because that requires Consistent

49:39

action-taking

49:39

which they cannot do because they're

49:41

so emotionally out of control

49:45

That they can't even show up to work

49:47

on time For a month straight

49:51

So what principled life can they live? Even

49:54

if they wanted to they couldn't be honest for a month straight

49:57

because they would tell themselves what they'll

49:58

count to be honest the next day they would break their own

50:01

word. It's

50:03

not just that they betray others, they

50:07

first and foremost, they betray themselves. They can't control

50:09

themselves. They're

50:12

out of control. Maturity

50:20

is long-term thinking versus short-term thinking. The

50:23

reason the immature person engages in short-term

50:26

thinking is because what's the point

50:28

of them even doing long-term thinking? Because to do long-term

50:30

thinking means you have to then act in alignment

50:32

with long-term thinking. But if you're so emotionally

50:35

lost and out of control that

50:38

you can't even act consistently for one month

50:40

and do one thing consistently for one month that you have

50:43

set your mind to, like let's say you set

50:45

your mind to go to the gym for a month straight,

50:48

an immature person cannot do that. Therefore

50:52

for them, long-term thinking doesn't make

50:55

sense. Because what's the point of it?

50:58

They can't act on it. Because

51:00

they're run by their emotions and their impulses like an animal.

51:07

Maturity very importantly is taking

51:09

ownership of your mistakes,

51:12

the ability to apologize, to

51:14

admit mistakes and to take criticism.

51:20

And when somebody else points

51:22

the truth out to you, see

51:25

the key difference is that the immature person

51:27

gets annoyed, upset,

51:30

offended and threatened

51:34

and takes it out on the messenger, shoots the messenger.

51:36

Whereas the mature person is thankful

51:39

that somebody pointed out some

51:41

sort of difficult truth to them even

51:44

though

51:45

it's not pleasant to hear

51:47

somebody criticizing you for example. But

51:50

there could be truth in that criticism and the mature person

51:52

understands that it's more important to face that truth

51:55

and to incur the temporary

51:57

emotional labor and pain

51:59

of that. suffer a little bit, but

52:01

in the long term you win out. Whereas

52:04

the immature person can't handle that, can't

52:08

handle the truth.

52:10

That's why they can't handle criticism

52:12

very well.

52:14

And they will shoot the messenger that brings

52:16

truth to them.

52:19

Which means people will stop at some point bringing

52:21

truth to them. And then that's perfect

52:23

for these immature people because that just allows

52:25

them to get lost in their own bubble

52:27

of illusion. Because

52:29

when people bring truth to you, that's

52:32

them trying to help to bust you out of your... egotistical

52:41

solipsism, we might say.

52:47

We might say that everybody is lost

52:49

in a bubble of

52:50

ego solipsism.

52:53

And one of the most important functions that other human beings serve

52:55

is that they can help you to offer perspectives

52:58

and feedback, to help you to bust

53:00

you out of your ego solipsism.

53:08

But if you shoot everybody who tries to come

53:10

help you, at some point people will know not

53:12

to come help you anymore.

53:14

And then that allows you to just get very comfortable

53:16

in your egoic

53:17

solipsism, but...

53:21

There's a cost that comes with that. Maturity

53:23

is to act in alignment with

53:26

a clear sense of values. Maturity

53:30

is integrity being principled. See my episode, What is

53:32

Integrity? Maturity

53:37

is being self-directed, the ability

53:39

to lead yourself, rather than conforming and just

53:41

following the mob and

53:43

doing what everybody else is doing as part of some

53:45

herd. Maturity is being non-ideological, non-biased,

53:48

non-conformist, thinking things through your

53:50

mind thinking

53:53

things through from first principles for yourself.

53:59

is having your ducks in a row taking care of

54:02

yourself see

54:03

fundamentally the immature person is incapable

54:05

of taking care of himself

54:07

and then he or she becomes

54:09

a burden onto others because they need

54:12

others to take care of them so

54:14

the immature person needs the mature person to

54:16

take care of them especially

54:20

when all of their illusions fail

54:29

to work out

54:31

then the immature person comes crying for

54:33

help

54:33

to the mature person looking

54:35

for a bailout and

54:43

then the mature person having

54:45

compassion and so forth often

54:48

times

54:50

can fall into the trap of that sort of idiot

54:52

compassion and bailing them out

54:54

when really a lot of times what needs to happen is

54:56

that the immature person needs to learn

54:59

from the suffering of

55:01

their lies deceit manipulations

55:04

and truth

55:04

avoidance they need to feel the suffering of that

55:06

and then learn those lessons but

55:09

of course they don't want to learn those lessons so they're always looking

55:11

for some kind of bailout

55:13

and in this way the immature person could abuse

55:16

and exploit the mature person

55:18

if the mature person isn't careful

55:23

maturity is understanding that your words and

55:25

actions serve as a role model

55:27

to others

55:29

so how you behave influences how others behave

55:33

and you behave in an immature way that

55:35

leads to a

55:38

climate of

55:40

immaturity and

55:42

then that drags down the average the center of gravity

55:45

of the organization

55:47

the family the corporation

55:50

the country the whole world humanity

55:57

the mature person takes on the responsibility

55:59

of being a good role model to others. It's

56:04

part of what being a parent means,

56:07

being a good role model to your children. But

56:10

being a good role model is much more beyond, goes

56:12

way beyond just being a good parent. Maturity

56:16

is the ability to communicate consciously, to resolve

56:18

disputes and disagreements without using force.

56:21

Immature people are always in conflict.

56:25

The more immature someone is, the more violent they are.

56:28

Again, they're out of control and they don't know how

56:30

to handle or resolve differences

56:33

in perspective through conscious

56:36

communication. I'm

56:38

going to have an episode about that in the future

56:40

called Conscious Communication. So,

56:42

search for that if you're watching this

56:45

sometimes after I release. And

56:51

of course, an important

56:54

corollary to this point is the

56:56

ability to listen. Maturity is the ability

56:59

to really listen. Most

57:01

people don't know how to really listen. Therefore,

57:03

you know, they don't know how to communicate consciously

57:05

either. To

57:08

be able to really listen to someone, you have to step outside

57:10

of yourself, your agenda, your perspective.

57:14

You can't be as selfish and egotistical

57:16

as you are and be a good listener.

57:26

And this is a very deep point.

57:29

Maturity is the ability to let go

57:31

and to surrender.

57:34

The ability to accept things as they are.

57:38

See my episode called The Power of Letting Go.

57:42

The immature person is unable to surrender

57:44

or let go of things.

57:49

To the point of being driven OCD. Driving

57:57

themselves

57:57

crazy in their mind.

57:59

able to let go of a certain thought, a

58:02

certain destructive thought.

58:03

An immature person can't do that. And

58:08

lastly, maturity

58:10

is wisdom, of course. Go see my episode,

58:13

What is Wisdom? Where we discuss

58:15

that in great detail. Maturity

58:18

is at the highest level consciousness and intelligence,

58:20

of course. And of

58:22

course, ultimately, maturity just boils down to

58:24

being selfless. Of course. There's

58:27

nothing more to maturity, but

58:30

ever higher levels of selflessness. That's

58:33

all it is. Of

58:35

course. Why would it be anything

58:38

else?

58:42

And now let's cover immaturity. Now I've already

58:44

been covering, you know, because the immaturity is just

58:46

the inverse of maturity. So we've

58:48

already covered many of these points, but,

58:50

you know, just a little bit of a different angle here.

58:53

What is immaturity? It's first

58:55

and foremost, shirking responsibility,

58:57

avoiding responsibility through evasion,

59:00

manipulation, and trickery.

59:04

Immaturity is, in a nutshell,

59:06

all the ways that Donald Trump acts. What

59:11

is Donald Trump's chief problem? He's

59:13

just, he's immature. He's

59:16

a child. He's a man

59:19

child. And what makes Trump so immature?

59:21

He does things for such vain reasons. Just

59:28

look at the reasons and the motivations behind

59:30

his actions. I mean, it's preposterous how

59:32

childish he is. And the fact

59:34

that this is not

59:36

clearly spelled out and obvious

59:39

in the media and to half

59:42

the American population is just, it's preposterous.

59:45

It's absurd. It's a fucking

59:47

farce is what it is.

59:52

One of the things that annoys me the most about

59:54

commentary about Trump

59:56

is that especially

59:58

like people in mainstream media.

59:59

like on CNN and MSNBC, they

1:00:03

will speak about Trump and his actions

1:00:05

as though he's a mature person.

1:00:08

And then they will treat him as though

1:00:10

he's mature and they will just kind of like have a, try

1:00:13

to have a conversation with him

1:00:15

or just try to treat him like every other adult

1:00:18

politician, which to me

1:00:21

is completely preposterous because you're ignoring

1:00:23

the elephant in the room, right? Like, for

1:00:25

example, if Trump says something, they will give

1:00:27

him the benefit of the doubt that

1:00:29

what he's saying is true,

1:00:31

but that this is not how you deal with a character like

1:00:33

Trump.

1:00:34

A character like Trump, the way you deal with him is you

1:00:37

completely call him out on his immature, childish

1:00:39

horseshit. Immediately, you don't allow

1:00:41

any leeway

1:00:43

in terms of he's a child. This is

1:00:45

how you speak to him. You speak to him like a child,

1:00:47

you treat him like a child, that's what he is. And

1:00:50

anybody who supports him seriously

1:00:52

is a child. You called

1:00:54

him out for being a fucking immature child. That's

1:00:56

what they are. That's what every Trump supporter is,

1:00:58

they're children. Trump

1:01:01

is completely out of control. You

1:01:03

see, that's his whole problem. He doesn't know

1:01:05

how to control himself. He cannot even

1:01:08

control himself to not eat a cheeseburger.

1:01:11

That's his situation. That's how big of a child he

1:01:13

is.

1:01:15

This is not partisan. This is not political.

1:01:17

It has nothing to do with politics. His

1:01:21

policies and his politics are irrelevant. It's

1:01:25

all about the fact that he's a child.

1:01:28

He lacks total self-restraint.

1:01:31

He's completely spoiled and entitled. This

1:01:33

man is not equipped to lead anybody.

1:01:40

He cannot even lead himself. He's

1:01:44

an utter narcissist and egotist. And

1:01:46

this is the only conversation that mainstream

1:01:48

media should be having about Trump. The

1:01:51

only one, not about his policy or

1:01:53

about the wall or about this thing that

1:01:55

he did or that thing he wants to do or his political

1:01:57

ambitions. It's like, no, let's talk about the fact

1:01:59

your fucking child and that's where it ends.

1:02:02

Until you stop being a child, we're not gonna move on to talk

1:02:04

about anything else. You

1:02:12

might say, Leo, but you're so biased. No, it's not that

1:02:14

I'm biased, it's that, I mean, yes, I'm

1:02:17

biased. Well, my whole

1:02:19

bias is that my job is to teach

1:02:21

people how to become mature and selfless,

1:02:24

that's my job. So

1:02:26

of course I'm biased in this regard. I'm

1:02:30

biased.

1:02:38

Compare Trump's level of maturity

1:02:40

to Obama's level of maturity.

1:02:44

Obama was a good example of mature.

1:02:48

He was careful,

1:02:49

he was deliberate, he

1:02:51

was in control of himself. That's

1:02:55

the difference. He wasn't spoiled,

1:02:59

he wasn't entitled. All

1:03:03

it is is a difference in selfishness

1:03:05

and selflessness. That's

1:03:08

fundamentally what it is.

1:03:10

See, what is Trump's number one quality

1:03:13

is that, well first of all,

1:03:14

he has no respect for the truth whatsoever, and

1:03:20

he takes responsibility for absolutely nothing. There

1:03:28

you go. That's

1:03:31

the hallmark of a child. He throws

1:03:33

tantrums. He's

1:03:43

unable to say no to himself.

1:03:51

You can't have someone like that leading the country.

1:03:53

The country. If

1:03:56

that's not obvious to you. There's

1:04:00

nothing more to be said Maturity

1:04:08

is self-restraint

1:04:13

Which is the one thing that Trump completely lacks

1:04:17

he has no sense of self-restraint

1:04:22

He wouldn't even

1:04:24

appreciate why self-restraint would be something

1:04:26

one would want to cultivate

1:04:31

Immaturity is impulsiveness in

1:04:33

patience emotional

1:04:35

outbursts throwing tantrums Having

1:04:39

an inconsistent chaotic mind and behavior

1:04:42

that of course comes from that mind because

1:04:44

chaotic behavior comes from chaotic mind

1:04:47

obviously

1:04:48

Immaturity is being needy Desperately

1:04:51

clinging for approval validation attention

1:04:54

fame glory power love

1:04:56

money or sex and

1:04:58

an immature ego chases after these things

1:05:01

because it is deficient in them and

1:05:03

doesn't yet see them as traps and doesn't know how

1:05:06

to fulfill these needs of its

1:05:09

You know some of these needs are legitimate. I'm not saying

1:05:12

Sex is wrong or anything money is not bad

1:05:14

or anything, but like

1:05:16

it's how you go about it

1:05:18

how you relate to it that matters and

1:05:21

You can pursue these way these things in

1:05:23

a way where it becomes a trap and in ways which

1:05:25

are healthy so

1:05:26

the ego doesn't distinguish these things and

1:05:31

Falls into all these as traps

1:05:34

Immaturity is running around seeking

1:05:36

pleasure and fun to be driven

1:05:38

by sex and other kind of cravings to

1:05:41

make your life about that Immaturity

1:05:44

is to fight to argue to blame to name

1:05:46

call Rather

1:05:49

than doing these things the mature thing to do is to reflect

1:05:51

on your own behaviors

1:05:53

Immaturity is getting stuck in conflict the

1:05:56

inability to avoid argument and conflict

1:06:01

An immature person simply doesn't know

1:06:03

how to avoid argument and conflict. Because

1:06:10

they're so stuck in their own illusions. They

1:06:14

can't step outside themselves and their agenda. Immature

1:06:17

people resolve things

1:06:19

through brute force and domination, through

1:06:22

authoritarianism, which of course

1:06:24

is another feature

1:06:27

of Trumpism. Authoritarianism.

1:06:32

Why does Trump like authoritarian leaders around

1:06:34

the world like Putin and

1:06:35

Kim Jong-un and

1:06:39

Xi Jinping of China and so forth?

1:06:41

And Bolsonaro of Brazil and so forth?

1:06:47

Because an extremely selfish

1:06:50

person doesn't know how to resolve conflict

1:06:53

in any other way but through domination.

1:06:56

So they

1:07:02

see domination as the

1:07:04

prime strategy. What

1:07:07

I got to do is I just got to out-dominate others. I

1:07:10

don't need to learn to listen to them. I don't need to learn

1:07:12

to communicate. I don't need to learn how to restrain

1:07:14

myself. I don't need to

1:07:17

learn how to control my emotions or any of that. I

1:07:20

just need to know how to dominate others more. That

1:07:22

will solve my problem.

1:07:26

Have you noticed that the less developed a country

1:07:29

is, the less mature a society is,

1:07:31

the

1:07:32

more of an authoritarian government it has.

1:07:37

And then these governments tend to be very cruel and violent.

1:07:42

And they tend not to have free speech. They don't have good dialogue.

1:07:45

There's not a lot of dialoguing going on in

1:07:48

these kind of countries.

1:07:49

But then what happens is that as the

1:07:51

society evolves, eventually

1:07:53

the society reaches a certain level

1:07:55

where authoritarianism becomes impossible.

1:07:58

means after

1:08:01

a certain point it becomes impossible. Why

1:08:05

is that? Well because

1:08:07

the

1:08:08

center of gravity of that culture and society

1:08:10

has shifted and developed

1:08:12

to a more mature point where

1:08:15

people are not going to tolerate you know other mature

1:08:17

people are not going to tolerate that kind of immature

1:08:19

behavior.

1:08:23

Which is what Donald Trump is finding out. The

1:08:27

center of gravity of American culture is actually

1:08:29

above where Donald Trump is.

1:08:32

Which is why a lot of his antics and so forth

1:08:35

don't work very well anymore.

1:08:37

They worked in the short term before

1:08:40

people really caught on to his level of immaturity.

1:08:42

See a lot of people were caught by surprise

1:08:44

in 2016. They didn't really

1:08:46

know Donald Trump very well or they kind of assumed

1:08:49

that he was just kind of like a normal guy

1:08:51

and it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I

1:08:52

mean it was obvious it was going to be a big problem

1:08:55

and that it was obvious he was a child from the very beginning

1:08:57

if you have any sense of

1:08:59

what maturity and immaturity are. But

1:09:02

you know a lot of people are not very psychologically adept

1:09:04

and aware so they didn't know this stuff that I'm

1:09:07

talking about here. But

1:09:09

so Trump was able to kind of like sneak his

1:09:11

way in the door as it

1:09:13

was closing.

1:09:16

But now people are caught on to his tricks. You

1:09:18

know now it's very obvious how immature he is to

1:09:20

most people. Not to everybody. Not

1:09:23

to as many people as it should be obvious to. You know maybe 30%

1:09:26

of the population in America still doesn't understand

1:09:29

because they themselves are immature. But

1:09:32

you know to appreciate maturity you have to be

1:09:34

mature. Look

1:09:42

at the founding fathers of America. Why is America is a

1:09:44

great country. Look

1:09:46

at the founding fathers they were very mature politicians.

1:09:49

They weren't your typical politicians. Very

1:09:52

mature.

1:09:53

Thomas Jefferson Ben Franklin George

1:09:55

Washington. Who am

1:09:57

I forgetting. There were a few others in there Madison.

1:09:59

and so forth,

1:10:01

uh, John Adams, et cetera. So like,

1:10:04

very, very wise, very, very mature

1:10:07

politicians

1:10:10

that thought deeply long-term,

1:10:13

were not impulsive, were not power-hungry,

1:10:15

were not tyrannical, were not authoritarian,

1:10:18

basically the exact opposite of Trump.

1:10:22

If the founding fathers of America

1:10:26

had the maturity of Donald Trump,

1:10:29

today we would be living in a dictatorship.

1:10:37

If this is not obvious to you, I don't know what

1:10:40

else I can say, your politics are shit. Immaturity

1:10:46

is pretentiousness and posturing, bragging,

1:10:49

needing to take credit, acting entitled

1:10:51

and spoiled, arrogance,

1:10:54

fraud, criminality, exploitation,

1:10:56

and theft and cheating.

1:11:01

Consider the difference

1:11:03

between mature masculinity versus immature

1:11:06

masculinity.

1:11:09

We have a bit of a masculinity crisis, I would

1:11:11

say, right now in our

1:11:13

online culture.

1:11:14

A lot of young men are growing up

1:11:17

and they don't know how to be masculine.

1:11:20

They look for role models and what they find

1:11:22

online is a lot of very immature men

1:11:25

teaching men how to become men

1:11:28

and it's this Andrew Tate shit.

1:11:31

It's this pickup artist shit,

1:11:33

extremely immature.

1:11:40

A comically immature.

1:11:45

There's a lack of good role

1:11:48

models of mature masculinity. I

1:11:53

tried to address that point

1:11:55

in my series, How to Get Laid, part one,

1:11:57

part two, part three, where I try to teach.

1:12:00

Pick up in a more mature way

1:12:02

So compare that to some of the less

1:12:04

mature ways in which pickup is taught

1:12:07

Most of the time

1:12:09

by pickup coaches compare

1:12:12

judge for yourself the difference

1:12:19

Immaturity is not considering the

1:12:21

impact of your actions on others in the world

1:12:25

Willful ignorance of externalities

1:12:27

a Lot

1:12:29

of corporations are very immature see

1:12:33

This doesn't just apply to people and applies to organizations

1:12:36

collectives nations and

1:12:39

of course corporations

1:12:41

Business can be done in a mature way or an immature

1:12:43

way

1:12:44

Most business these days is immature

1:12:46

business In

1:12:49

a hundred years from now The way

1:12:51

business is done. It's going to be so much more mature

1:12:53

these kind of gross externalities

1:12:55

that are

1:12:56

Standard business practice on Wall Street these

1:12:58

days. It's not gonna

1:12:59

persist a hundred years from now We're gonna mature

1:13:02

and grow out of it

1:13:03

But for now a lot of companies what they do

1:13:05

is they just push the externalities of

1:13:07

their business onto

1:13:09

Onto the public sector or I mean onto society

1:13:11

at large

1:13:12

onto the commons tragedy of the common sort

1:13:14

of situation

1:13:15

you know some of these oil companies gas companies

1:13:18

chemical pollution companies and

1:13:20

big pharma companies and so forth with

1:13:22

the externalities and And

1:13:24

I want to underscore this this this key term

1:13:26

willful ignorance. This is a very good term when

1:13:29

we're discussing

1:13:31

Immaturity immaturity you could say in

1:13:33

a nutshell is willful ignorance

1:13:36

It's aggressive ignorance and A

1:13:40

lot of these Trump supporters are aggressively ignorant.

1:13:42

They're not just ignorant. They're aggressively ignorant. They're

1:13:44

willfully ignorant. They're proud of their

1:13:46

ignorance

1:13:51

Immaturity is a lack of understanding

1:13:53

of situations because you are too self-absorbed

1:13:56

bias on truthful avoidant and reactive

1:14:01

to understand them properly to understand

1:14:03

a situation accurately requires

1:14:06

truthfulness honesty lack

1:14:08

of bias ability to see

1:14:10

multiple perspectives and to

1:14:13

deal with difficult truths and to

1:14:15

be control in control of your emotions

1:14:19

if you're lost in a haze of chaotic

1:14:21

emotions you can't understand anything and

1:14:28

then you pay for that

1:14:31

and then your lack of understanding doubles down

1:14:33

on itself

1:14:35

the errors keep increasing

1:14:40

the reason you're in conflict with other people all the time is

1:14:42

because you can't understand them because

1:14:46

you're too self-absorbed to understand

1:14:53

immaturity is an inability to execute long-term

1:14:55

plans of course because you're

1:14:57

out of control an out of control person

1:14:59

cannot go to the gym consistently for a month

1:15:02

impossible cannot do his homework

1:15:04

consistently for a month impossible cannot show

1:15:07

up to work on time for a month impossible

1:15:14

which of course interferes with your success

1:15:17

one of the most important

1:15:20

qualities you

1:15:22

need to be successful is to be able to execute consistently

1:15:25

on long-term plans

1:15:27

so immature people tend to have a lot of money problems

1:15:29

a lot of relationship problems and so on

1:15:32

problems at school problems

1:15:34

with their boss

1:15:36

problems with their family

1:15:40

but especially financial problems

1:15:46

immaturity is a lack of understanding of

1:15:48

what will lead to your own well-being the

1:15:54

immature person is fooling himself

1:15:56

about what will actually serve him best

1:16:01

which is why immature people tend to destroy

1:16:03

their own health.

1:16:07

The immature person is at war with

1:16:10

himself. In

1:16:13

contradiction, full of contradiction, the

1:16:15

mind has more contradictions in it. The

1:16:18

mature mind understands that eliminating

1:16:20

contradictions from itself is

1:16:23

an important aspect of the health of the mind. Whereas

1:16:25

the immature mind is so full of illusions and bullshit

1:16:28

and contradictions

1:16:28

at conflict with itself,

1:16:30

at odds with itself, and ultimately at war

1:16:32

with itself.

1:16:36

And destroys itself

1:16:38

in the end. Which

1:16:40

is of course what Trump has done to himself. All

1:16:44

of Trump's antics will lead to his ultimate self-destruction.

1:16:48

As of course they should.

1:16:50

And it's completely obvious to a mature person that it would

1:16:52

work this way.

1:16:53

Only to someone as foolish and

1:16:55

stupid as Trump or a Trump supporter

1:16:58

can they think that you can just get away

1:17:00

with this. That the universe will allow you to just

1:17:02

get away with this kind of behavior. Over

1:17:06

and over and over again without any consequence. This is

1:17:09

preposterous. Absolutely

1:17:11

laughable. The

1:17:15

only way you can get away with this kind

1:17:17

of behavior is just through luck. It's

1:17:20

a matter of time and you know Trump has had a lot

1:17:22

of luck. He's already very old and he's gotten away with

1:17:24

a lot of stuff. So he's had a lot of luck.

1:17:27

I would say he's been more lucky than

1:17:29

you will be if you act as foolishly as

1:17:31

he has in his life.

1:17:33

So he's a very lucky guy. But

1:17:36

I think his luck is running short as

1:17:38

we're seeing. I

1:17:45

would not want to be him right now. Of

1:17:49

course as I said already, immaturity

1:17:51

is the inability to let go.

1:17:54

To let go of what? Thoughts?

1:17:57

People?

1:17:58

Arguments? I don't know.

1:17:59

ideology

1:18:01

Perspective agenda. You're

1:18:03

just so attached to it. It's it's

1:18:06

a clinging kind of energy You

1:18:08

can't let it go. There's a thought that just keeps going

1:18:11

through your head and you just can't let that thought go That's

1:18:15

what that's what emotional immaturity

1:18:17

looks like and It's

1:18:20

an inability to be at peace to be calm

1:18:22

to be gentle Peace is

1:18:27

the fruit of a mature

1:18:30

life a life

1:18:32

devoted to cultivating maturity

1:18:36

Immaturity is self-deception fantasy

1:18:38

illusion falsehood

1:18:41

Immaturity is materialistic living

1:18:45

maturity is spiritual living

1:18:48

of course immaturity is synonymous

1:18:50

with foolishness

1:18:52

Unconsciousness

1:18:54

a lack of intelligence

1:18:58

and ultimately

1:18:59

Immaturity is just selfishness of

1:19:03

course What else would it be?

1:19:09

So in the end when

1:19:11

we boil it all down it gets very

1:19:13

simple You're

1:19:15

either devoted to a life of selfishness

1:19:18

and immaturity or a life of

1:19:21

selflessness and maturity Here's

1:19:27

a list of examples of immature behavior Just

1:19:31

to get your mind jogging

1:19:32

abandoning your child

1:19:35

Lying cheating scamming and defrauding

1:19:38

Theft in all of its forms. Why

1:19:40

do immature people? gravitate

1:19:43

towards Theft in all of

1:19:45

its when there's there are a lot of very subtle forms

1:19:47

of theft which I will talk about in my episode called

1:19:50

Future one called the avoidance of

1:19:52

hard work

1:19:53

That's coming soon. We're gonna talk

1:19:55

about theft there. The theft is a much bigger

1:19:58

topic than people realize

1:19:59

There's so many different forms of theft

1:20:02

and

1:20:03

all of them are perpetrated by immature

1:20:05

people. Why is that?

1:20:07

Because like I said earlier, the immature

1:20:10

people don't want to work hard. Therefore,

1:20:12

you know, if you're not going to work hard in life, but you still want all

1:20:14

the goodies, which, of course, immature people all do,

1:20:18

the only way you can get that is through some form of theft.

1:20:23

A lot of these forms of theft

1:20:25

are not called theft. And

1:20:27

immature people actually think that no, that

1:20:29

they're not thieves. Just

1:20:33

because it's not called theft. But

1:20:35

there's a lot of stuff that's not called theft that should be called

1:20:37

theft.

1:20:38

We'll get into that in that other episode

1:20:41

in the future. So stay tuned for that.

1:20:43

It's going to be a good one.

1:20:45

Another example of immaturity is losing

1:20:48

your temper. Getting offended and

1:20:50

upset easily. Getting triggered in

1:20:52

a debate or a flame war. Trolling other people.

1:20:55

Taking glee in one's in

1:20:57

someone else's defeat or suffering. Getting

1:21:00

morally outraged. Bragging.

1:21:04

What color is your Bugatti?

1:21:08

Counting how many girls you've had sex with and bragging

1:21:10

about it.

1:21:11

Calling women sluts and whores.

1:21:13

Manipulating someone into.

1:21:16

Giving you sex and money.

1:21:19

Calling people pedophiles. Oh, this

1:21:21

is a this is a doozy. This is a favorite

1:21:23

one today. This is so popular. Accusing

1:21:26

people being pedophiles is like the most

1:21:28

immature thing. You know, it's

1:21:30

just the hallmark of an immature mind.

1:21:32

Defaming and smearing people's reputations.

1:21:36

Seeking validation for your success. Seeking

1:21:38

social media attention.

1:21:43

Avoiding emotional labor. Leaching

1:21:44

off of your friends and family. Wanting

1:21:47

to take all the credit for yourself. Manipulating

1:21:51

friends and spouses.

1:21:52

Exaggerating not being truthful or accurate.

1:21:56

Bad faith. Lack of intellectual

1:21:58

honesty.

1:21:59

Taking joy from inflicting suffering

1:22:02

on others

1:22:03

Only behaving well when others are watching

1:22:06

Taking advantage of naive people Throwing

1:22:11

objects and slamming doors

1:22:13

Whining and complaining without taking action

1:22:16

watch out for this one

1:22:19

Especially in the political realm a lot of people do whining

1:22:21

and complaining in the political realm, but then they take no action

1:22:28

Being involved in dirty political campaigns

1:22:31

breaking just laws

1:22:32

Expecting

1:22:35

people to buy you things or to do work for you Because

1:22:38

you don't want to do it

1:22:39

yourself and you're just looking for somebody else

1:22:42

to do it for you That's

1:22:45

the list Let

1:22:49

me make a few points here about society at large Let me make

1:22:52

a few points here about society at large If

1:22:55

you're spending a lot of time online

1:22:58

on YouTube on social media on

1:23:00

forums

1:23:04

Observing politics and so forth

1:23:06

and even entertainment This

1:23:09

whole online sort of YouTube

1:23:12

Facebook TikTok Twitter

1:23:14

ecosystem Reddit ecosystem

1:23:17

if you're anywhere near this

1:23:19

Which you probably are if you watch me then

1:23:21

you have a lot of Examples

1:23:24

of immaturity going around today Social

1:23:28

media influencers celebrities and so forth these

1:23:31

people are demonstrating some

1:23:33

of the most immature ways of behaving Which

1:23:36

is very unfortunate

1:23:38

and if you're a

1:23:39

youngster growing up this can really twist

1:23:42

you up

1:23:44

There are a few mature role models

1:23:46

out there for you

1:23:49

Our culture right now celebrates stupidity

1:23:51

and immaturity

1:23:53

Look at the rise of Donald Trump Andrew Tate

1:23:56

the stuff that's going on with Elon Musk This

1:23:59

is the celebration of immaturity

1:24:02

and online platforms

1:24:05

tend to reward this kind of immature behavior drama

1:24:08

arguing fighting name-calling

1:24:11

bullshitting

1:24:15

gossiping ego narcissism

1:24:19

fraud these

1:24:21

crypto scams

1:24:22

right all this is rewarded by by these online

1:24:25

platforms

1:24:28

and in our politics

1:24:32

so some of the most successful people are the people

1:24:34

who are the most immature

1:24:37

which is rather perverse and twisted don't

1:24:40

you think

1:24:43

well what I say is that shame on

1:24:45

all these people I'm

1:24:46

holding you

1:24:48

to a higher standard I hold myself to a higher

1:24:50

standard you're better than this and

1:24:53

I don't want you to get the some low standard of

1:24:56

what you're going to be as a human being from consuming

1:24:59

all this online horseshit content

1:25:00

that's just immature nonsense you're

1:25:04

after maturity here that's what

1:25:06

we're about that's self

1:25:08

actualization is about that's what spirituality is about

1:25:14

consider as an example how

1:25:17

this issue of maturity applies even just outside

1:25:20

of your

1:25:22

personal life consider

1:25:26

the difference between for example a mature industry

1:25:28

versus an immature industry

1:25:32

an immature industry might be something like social media

1:25:34

or the internet companies Silicon

1:25:36

Valley you know their motto has been move

1:25:39

fast break things this is the definition

1:25:41

of immature behavior

1:25:45

this crypto fraud stuff we're seeing the

1:25:47

sort of the Wild West

1:25:49

it's chaotic there's a lack of self-restraint

1:25:54

interesting here

1:25:59

some areas where you might want to take a specific

1:26:02

look

1:26:03

for maturity versus immaturity.

1:26:07

Politics. What

1:26:09

does immature politics look like and

1:26:12

what does mature politics look like?

1:26:15

Well if you want more on that I have a lot of material,

1:26:18

I think some top-notch material. Go check out my

1:26:20

series, four-part series called Conscious Politics,

1:26:22

where I explain to you

1:26:25

what I think mature politics look like

1:26:27

and how different it is from what we're currently

1:26:29

seeing online.

1:26:32

The next area is relationships, dating,

1:26:34

and sex. What is a

1:26:37

immature attitude towards relationships, dating,

1:26:39

and sex and what is a mature attitude?

1:26:42

That's night and day right there. Family

1:26:46

relations. What

1:26:49

do immature versus mature family relations

1:26:52

look like? Then

1:26:54

in the area of business, finances,

1:26:56

money, and investing,

1:26:58

what's immature, what's mature?

1:27:00

Really think about

1:27:02

what are some examples of mature ways of doing

1:27:04

business.

1:27:06

That's still something that mankind really struggles

1:27:09

with collectively because of the influence

1:27:11

of Wall Street and all this sort

1:27:13

of sprothemic stage orange stuff. It's

1:27:16

quite toxic and immature.

1:27:19

Then spirituality

1:27:22

and religion. In the area of spirituality and religion,

1:27:24

what is immature spirituality? What is mature

1:27:26

spirituality? That's night and

1:27:28

day, night

1:27:29

and day. Then in the domain

1:27:31

of morality, what is immature morality?

1:27:34

What is mature morality? Now

1:27:38

understand that

1:27:42

immature people are mostly immature because

1:27:44

they were raised by other immature people.

1:27:48

One of the hallmarks of maturity is to

1:27:51

be able to deal with immature people

1:27:53

in a graceful and skillful

1:27:57

manner. This is a little difficult because

1:27:59

there's a lot of you know, there's levels of maturity. And

1:28:02

what's gonna happen is that first year, you're very immature. Then

1:28:04

you become a little bit more mature and you look down, you can,

1:28:06

now you can recognize people like Trump as being very immature.

1:28:09

But you're still not that mature because you're

1:28:12

at a level where you're like in the middle where you don't

1:28:14

know how to deal with immature people. So what you do is

1:28:16

you just kind of vent and fume and

1:28:18

yell at them and stuff like that, call them names.

1:28:22

But you don't have that

1:28:25

sort of tier two, the dynamics tier

1:28:27

two level

1:28:28

of maturity and wisdom

1:28:31

and consciousness where you're able to even

1:28:33

sort of integrate immature people

1:28:36

into

1:28:38

your acceptance and embrace of all of reality.

1:28:40

Cause you know, immature people are a giant chunk

1:28:42

of reality that you have to, you can't just demonize them,

1:28:44

right? See that would be immature. To demonize

1:28:46

immature people would itself be an immature

1:28:49

approach to dealing with immature people. So what's

1:28:51

the mature way of dealing with immature people? Well, that's

1:28:53

something that's like requires a double dose

1:28:55

of maturity. That's like maturity

1:28:57

squared to be able to deal with immature people maturely and

1:29:00

gracefully

1:29:01

and skillfully. That's

1:29:05

like some spiral wizardry stuff right there. That's tier

1:29:07

two. Personally, I struggle with that. You

1:29:10

know, you might say, well, Leo, but aren't you like venting

1:29:13

and fuming at Trump and all this? Shouldn't

1:29:15

you have a more mature way of talking about Trump?

1:29:18

And look, it's not like I'm offended by Trump or anything.

1:29:20

It's just that like, to me, it's just so preposterous.

1:29:24

The whole situation is just so preposterous. And

1:29:26

I don't see anybody just like nailing Trump

1:29:28

on what he needs to be nailed on. Like I don't, I turn

1:29:30

on, I watch the news all the time, people criticizing

1:29:33

Trump, but they never criticize him properly. They

1:29:35

criticize him on all sorts of stupid shit.

1:29:37

They don't nail him on the core

1:29:40

thing. So that's my

1:29:42

pet peeve there. But

1:29:45

definitely I have more work to do on more

1:29:47

maturely dealing with immature people.

1:29:50

That's, I mean, man, that's real difficult. I'll

1:29:53

tell you, I mean, I deal with some immature idiots on

1:29:55

my forum in the comments sections. You know, I've

1:29:57

dealt with them for fucking years. Free,

1:29:59

Frank. frankly, it does trigger me.

1:30:01

It's difficult sometimes. It

1:30:04

gets to you. And

1:30:06

in the future, I anticipate maturing more

1:30:08

and dealing with them in a more graceful manner

1:30:11

than I have in the past. But

1:30:13

that's a real test. That's

1:30:15

a real test of your maturity right there. Some

1:30:19

spiritual gurus say that the real test of your enlightenment

1:30:21

is go spend a week with your family, living

1:30:23

with your family after enlightenment. That's

1:30:26

the real test. The real test of your maturity

1:30:28

is go deal with some completely immature

1:30:31

jackass who's trolling you online or something

1:30:33

and deal with that. Well, that's

1:30:36

tricky. If

1:30:39

you can handle that, maybe you're more mature than I am.

1:30:43

Here are some things to consider.

1:30:45

Consider a mature conversation

1:30:47

and a mature communication versus an immature

1:30:50

one. What does that look like?

1:30:52

Consider a mature relationship.

1:30:54

What does that look like? Consider

1:30:57

a mature attitude towards work,

1:30:59

a mature way of doing business.

1:31:02

Consider mature

1:31:04

spirituality. Consider

1:31:07

mature society.

1:31:09

What does that look like? Consider a mature

1:31:11

culture.

1:31:14

Consider a mature set of life goals

1:31:16

and direction

1:31:17

versus its opposite. All

1:31:22

things for you to consider on your own. Now

1:31:27

you might wonder, well, okay, Leo, what do I do about this? How

1:31:29

do I become more mature if I actually want to? Well,

1:31:32

I'm glad you asked because I've got a long list for you.

1:31:35

So ride it down. Number

1:31:37

one, of course, take ownership of things. Ask

1:31:41

yourself this key question, where am I not taking

1:31:44

responsibility? Or

1:31:46

this one, who do I blame?

1:31:50

Or this one, in what ways do I act

1:31:52

like a child? Those

1:31:55

are some powerful and scary questions to ask

1:31:57

yourself. But, you know, if you're trying to be mature,

1:32:00

Take on the challenge of asking that question see

1:32:02

an immature person wouldn't want to take

1:32:05

incur the emotional labor of asking such

1:32:07

questions because the answers would probably be too painful

1:32:09

and

1:32:12

Require you to make some changes

1:32:15

Next is stop blaming arguing,

1:32:18

judging, fighting, and name-calling

1:32:20

cut this out Stop

1:32:22

it

1:32:23

Also, stop creating drama. You're creating

1:32:26

a lot of drama. Stop it

1:32:27

Stop whining and complaining

1:32:30

Stop pursuing raw pleasure Has

1:32:32

your modus of sort

1:32:35

of modus operandi in life

1:32:37

if that's something you do

1:32:38

lead

1:32:40

Lead yourself lead others take

1:32:42

on

1:32:43

Leadership roles leadership roles

1:32:46

will force you to become a lot more responsible

1:32:50

as soon as you take on a leadership role

1:32:52

whether as head of a household or

1:32:55

Some department in your corporation or whatever on

1:32:57

leading a small even a small team of five people

1:33:00

at work You know taking that leadership role when

1:33:02

that opportunity arises This will force

1:33:04

you out of yourself out of your

1:33:06

egotism because other people will be dependent on

1:33:08

you and you will feel the weight of that

1:33:11

dependence and you won't want to let them down

1:33:13

and

1:33:14

so you will have less leeway to screw

1:33:16

around and to Be

1:33:19

immature because if you're in a leadership

1:33:21

position you act immaturely other people will very

1:33:24

quickly Put you in your place and point

1:33:26

that out to you. You will get kicked out You'll get fired and so

1:33:28

forth and it'll just not be a fun experience

1:33:30

So you will quickly learn to become mature

1:33:33

in those positions or you will lose those positions

1:33:35

very quickly

1:33:38

As you know as Trump did rightly

1:33:40

so

1:33:42

Next is learn to manage your emotions

1:33:44

emotional mastery emotional intelligence EQ is

1:33:46

called

1:33:49

I have some old videos on that front.

1:33:51

I have a video called how to master your emotions go check that out Next

1:33:57

is have an eye towards something higher

1:33:59

and lower larger in life

1:34:01

a Life purpose for

1:34:03

that see my life purpose course which can help you to

1:34:05

develop that

1:34:07

Links down below in the description

1:34:11

Next is do philosophy and contemplate a lot

1:34:13

of contemplation and self-reflection Introspection

1:34:15

is necessary see my episode called introspection

1:34:18

actually it's called developing introspection See

1:34:20

my episode how to contemplate how to contemplate

1:34:22

using a journal how to ask powerful questions

1:34:25

go see all those

1:34:26

An intro to serious philosophy go see

1:34:29

that one Next

1:34:32

is burning through your karma. I have a powerful

1:34:34

episode called burning through karma go watch that

1:34:37

if you don't know what that phrase means

1:34:40

Exhaust your egoic pettiness and observe

1:34:42

how ugly it is Observe

1:34:45

the ugliness of your own selfishness basically,

1:34:48

that's That's the formula

1:34:51

right there

1:34:52

Next is meet your

1:34:53

basic survival needs learn to take care of yourself

1:34:57

Become self-reliant and independent

1:34:59

stop relying on others to take care of you It

1:35:08

might seem like but Leo isn't taking care of

1:35:10

my basic survival needs isn't that selfish Should

1:35:13

I be more selfless and go helping

1:35:15

others, but see this is foolish

1:35:18

a Mature

1:35:21

way of helping others is to first help

1:35:23

yourself Ground yourself

1:35:25

solidify yourself so that you are in

1:35:27

control of your emotions.

1:35:29

You're in control of your finances

1:35:31

You're not desperate. You're not clinging

1:35:33

you've got your basic sex needs taken

1:35:35

care of all that basic stuff you take care of that then

1:35:38

with the

1:35:39

Foundation you build from there you now have

1:35:41

the capacity to help others to raise a family

1:35:44

to be a leader and

1:35:45

To maybe go into governance

1:35:47

and so forth But if you can't take

1:35:49

care of your basic survival needs you're not going

1:35:52

to be able to really help others effectively

1:35:57

And then to compensate for that in a inability

1:35:59

you're gonna

1:35:59

Come up with all sorts of fantasies, delusions, and manipulation

1:36:02

techniques to try to hold together this

1:36:04

house of cards.

1:36:06

Build your life on a solid foundation

1:36:08

is what I'm telling you. That's the mature way to go about

1:36:10

it.

1:36:11

Whereas immature people are always building houses of

1:36:13

cards and then they're always falling apart and then they

1:36:15

have to glue them back together with bullshit.

1:36:18

That's basically how that works. Next

1:36:22

way to become mature is follow this principle

1:36:24

of right action as it's called. The principle

1:36:26

of right action. Generally speaking, you know the

1:36:29

right thing

1:36:30

that needs to be done at the right time. You just don't do

1:36:32

it because

1:36:34

you're too irresponsible. So

1:36:36

start doing that.

1:36:43

Next way to become more mature is to pursue

1:36:46

the good life as I call it.

1:36:48

I have many episodes that talk about that

1:36:50

and how to pursue that.

1:36:52

And in general, I'll say this.

1:36:54

Strive to be good. This

1:36:56

notion of being good is underutilized

1:36:59

these days. People aren't talking about it.

1:37:02

Really, you want a good life? Strive to be good. It's

1:37:05

that simple. I

1:37:08

think I've talked about this elsewhere. I have a video

1:37:10

call. I have an episode called What

1:37:15

is goodness? I think something

1:37:17

like that something goodness search for goodness. You'll find

1:37:19

it. It's a good episode. Another

1:37:24

way is to be honest even when it's painful and difficult. Cultivate

1:37:29

that honesty habit. Also discipline

1:37:31

yourself. Work hard. Stop avoiding

1:37:33

hard work. That's half

1:37:35

your problem

1:37:36

right there in life. Just avoiding hard work.

1:37:40

Now, when I say

1:37:42

work hard, that doesn't mean work hard and be dumb

1:37:44

about the way you work. It's not just about the raw quantity

1:37:46

of hours. That's not what hard

1:37:48

work means. To me hard work

1:37:50

also means working smart to

1:37:53

you

1:37:54

put in a lot of hours. I'm not saying

1:37:56

be a workaholic per se. You know, you

1:37:59

can do this at 4.

1:37:59

hours a week you don't need to work much more

1:38:02

than 40 hours a week to work hard but

1:38:04

during those 40 hours really work

1:38:07

and then also make sure that those 40 hours

1:38:09

are going towards something it's

1:38:11

not going to some sort of you know trivial thing

1:38:14

it's going to something important and valuable that's

1:38:16

generating value for the world that's what I consider

1:38:19

serious work expose

1:38:22

yourself to massive life experience

1:38:24

I have a whole episode on that go watch that

1:38:27

take on ever larger challenges challenge

1:38:30

yourself in life rather than waiting for life to challenge

1:38:32

you be

1:38:33

self-directed confront

1:38:35

harsh truths and in general undertake

1:38:38

the journey to pursue truth

1:38:43

truth with the capital T

1:38:46

pursue truth what is truth well I have an episode

1:38:49

what is truth go watch that I'll get you started

1:38:52

I also have an episode how to discover what's true

1:38:54

that's a really good one

1:38:56

something it's a guided inquiry go check

1:38:58

that out

1:39:04

next is do serious spirituality that's

1:39:06

part of this process of pursuing truth

1:39:10

spirituality if you're doing it properly will

1:39:15

disabuse you of many

1:39:17

of your immature ways

1:39:21

practice conscious relationships

1:39:23

that's something I'll have an episode on soon

1:39:25

stay tuned for that have

1:39:28

children but here

1:39:31

in parentheses consciously have

1:39:34

children consciously deliberately

1:39:36

right that's different than just having some

1:39:38

sex at an accidental child

1:39:40

when you're not ready I mean like deliberately

1:39:43

have children

1:39:45

and then really work towards becoming

1:39:47

the best parent you can be I think

1:39:50

very practically that's that's probably an avenue

1:39:52

for most people's maturation in life

1:39:55

if you're not going to do the whole spiritual path do

1:39:57

the family path but do it consciously

1:40:00

Because

1:40:00

if you just do it,

1:40:02

you know flying by the seat your pants

1:40:05

It'll still probably mature you but

1:40:08

not as much as it could like you could really turn

1:40:11

the creation of a family into

1:40:13

a

1:40:14

Into its own whole developmental path

1:40:17

for yourself if you wanted to if that's something

1:40:19

you're interested Of course and

1:40:22

don't have children just for the sake of developing

1:40:24

yourself Actually

1:40:26

want them this is assuming that

1:40:28

you want them Next

1:40:32

is learn to communicate clearly and

1:40:34

to articulate your thoughts and emotions I'll

1:40:37

have a a Few episodes

1:40:40

unclear on clarity and I'll have an episode

1:40:42

on clarity coming soon I'll have an episode on conscious communication.

1:40:44

Stay tuned for that

1:40:46

the next point is study

1:40:49

developmental psychology models

1:40:51

Spital dynamics the nine stages of ego

1:40:53

development by Susan Cook Groyder that model I've shared

1:40:55

both these models you can find episodes and series

1:40:58

that I have on all these models I have multi-part series

1:41:00

on all this

1:41:01

Just reading these models understanding them. This

1:41:04

would this will give you a huge leg

1:41:08

up on Maturing yourself. It

1:41:10

basically shows you a roadmap the psychological

1:41:12

developmental model show you a roadmap of human maturity

1:41:15

This maturity generally takes place in stages

1:41:17

that

1:41:18

have been very well studied

1:41:21

scientifically and outlined for you, so

1:41:23

just go watch that material and

1:41:27

You'll know what your next step is you'll know where

1:41:29

you are and what the next step is what the step is above

1:41:31

that Practice

1:41:34

not knowing From that episode

1:41:37

the power of not knowing very powerful concept

1:41:39

Incredibly powerful concept most people have no idea

1:41:42

the power of this concept not knowing this

1:41:45

is a This

1:41:46

not knowing leads to you to

1:41:48

pure maturity

1:41:50

It's the path the path of

1:41:52

not knowing to maturity

1:41:56

Also, I recommend you stop tolerating immature

1:41:58

people

1:41:59

Call them out on their bullshit as I have done

1:42:02

with Donald Trump. It's one of the reasons I did it here to

1:42:04

demonstrate that to you. But also, if

1:42:07

you're surrounded by immature friends and family,

1:42:09

you got to drop them. If

1:42:13

they're not willing to mature, drop

1:42:16

them. Stop

1:42:21

making promises you can't keep. Think

1:42:25

before you speak. Especially

1:42:29

in this online culture where people are paid

1:42:31

just to speak and to just blabber on and on and on. This

1:42:36

sort of like Joe Rogan type of speech where you just

1:42:38

sit down, you don't think very much, and you

1:42:41

just kind of like gossip and throw, you know, you're just

1:42:43

kind of like spitball and spitball and shit. Let's just spitball

1:42:45

shit in public

1:42:46

in front of millions of people. This

1:42:48

has become normalized as if

1:42:50

this is a healthy way of

1:42:52

using your fucking mouth. Healthy way

1:42:55

of using your fucking mouth and mind. It's

1:42:57

not.

1:42:58

In the past, humans would think for

1:43:00

hours, for years, for decades before they spoke.

1:43:04

Today, some idiot turns on a microphone and

1:43:06

earns a hundred million dollars just spitball

1:43:08

and bullshit.

1:43:10

And conspiracy theories and shit like that and gossip

1:43:13

online.

1:43:13

And this, this gets rewarded as some sort of

1:43:16

height and pinnacle of success. I mean, it's preposterous.

1:43:21

Do you know how much time I think before I fucking

1:43:23

speak to you? I

1:43:26

exhaust myself. I

1:43:28

exhaust myself. I had to take a

1:43:30

nap today before speaking to

1:43:33

you because I exhausted myself for hours

1:43:35

thinking about what I'm going to speak to you about.

1:43:40

Because it's so important. Because

1:43:43

that's what a mature person would do. A mature

1:43:46

person would not sit and speak for

1:43:48

hours to you about some some horseshit

1:43:51

that his mind just spun up in

1:43:53

the spur of the moment.

1:44:01

I exhaust myself to

1:44:08

speak to you because

1:44:12

that's the only responsible way to speak.

1:44:16

When you have a big platform,

1:44:18

an influence,

1:44:21

what kind of influence do you have?

1:44:29

Think before you speak. If

1:44:37

our ancestors saw the way

1:44:39

that

1:44:43

people speak these days online,

1:44:46

they would be ashamed and disgusted. The

1:44:51

only reason

1:44:53

we're not aware of it very much these days

1:44:55

is because it's like we've been boiled

1:44:58

alive like a frog in water

1:45:01

as the internet

1:45:03

was coming online slowly over a few decades.

1:45:06

We slowly boil ourselves

1:45:07

alive.

1:45:13

To develop more maturity, stop acting

1:45:15

defensively. Stop defending and justifying

1:45:17

yourself.

1:45:20

Reflect on all the ways you've been immature

1:45:22

in the past.

1:45:25

The key question to ask yourself here is, what

1:45:27

are all the ways I've been immature in the past?

1:45:32

You should be able to come up with a very long list.

1:45:36

Just think about those. Here's

1:45:41

a few other questions to contemplate. Which

1:45:43

parts of me are mature and

1:45:45

which parts of me are immature? Because you've

1:45:48

got both. You're not, even if you're a very immature person,

1:45:50

you've got some mature aspects to you, of course.

1:45:56

And then of course, even if you're a very mature person,

1:45:58

you've got some immature aspects to you. Now

1:46:03

you might say, Leo, well, aren't you guilty

1:46:06

of immaturity yourself?

1:46:09

Of course, of course.

1:46:12

I've said immature things. I've done

1:46:14

immature things

1:46:15

both on camera and off camera.

1:46:18

Of course, that's been part of my maturation

1:46:20

process,

1:46:21

part of my evolution and development.

1:46:24

But overall,

1:46:28

I've always been exceptionally

1:46:30

mature ever since I

1:46:32

was a kid. I remember in school, it was kind of

1:46:34

like...

1:46:38

I was probably the most mature person in my school, honestly,

1:46:42

for my age. And I'm talking about, like, high

1:46:44

school.

1:46:46

And, like, it just boggled my mind,

1:46:49

like, how these kids could be, like, running around,

1:46:51

having sex, smoking weed, socializing,

1:46:54

going to parties, doing all this stupid shit, drinking.

1:46:56

To me, it was like, what the fuck are you doing?

1:47:04

But of course, yeah, there's still plenty of immaturity

1:47:06

in Maine. I mean, I've... frankly,

1:47:09

I've...

1:47:12

I've grown out of a lot of it over the last 10 years, but

1:47:15

there's still some left,

1:47:16

for sure. For sure. To be,

1:47:19

like, perfectly mature, that's so fucking

1:47:21

difficult. Honestly, when I think about it, like, it makes me

1:47:23

kind of, like, like, ugh. It's

1:47:27

like, that's not easy to do. I don't

1:47:29

look forward to doing that. It

1:47:33

requires so much sacrifice, so much surrendering,

1:47:36

like, man,

1:47:38

it's difficult. You

1:47:41

might say, well, Leo, but doesn't

1:47:44

this... Why did you shoot this episode? Because

1:47:46

it sounds like what you did here, you just gave another

1:47:48

list for what wisdom is. Isn't maturity

1:47:50

just wisdom? And you already have an episode called

1:47:52

What is Wisdom, where basically you outline the difference between wisdom,

1:47:54

you give a list of wisdom, and you give a list about

1:47:57

what foolishness is, so isn't... The

1:48:00

same there's a lot of overlap

1:48:02

isn't there and my answer to that is yes,

1:48:04

of course It's basically

1:48:06

the same list but look Which

1:48:10

you have to understand don't take this for granted

1:48:13

We began remember we began this episode

1:48:15

sort of like not knowing what maturity was

1:48:18

it wasn't clear wasn't defined and

1:48:20

We didn't know where it would lead exactly

1:48:23

when you're doing one of these philosophical Enquiries

1:48:26

you don't know where it's gonna lead you might sit there for

1:48:28

hours doing this inquiry on maturity Then at

1:48:30

some point after like

1:48:32

five hours you realize oh well maturity

1:48:34

is just the same thing as wisdom Of course that

1:48:36

I already knew what wisdom was

1:48:38

Yeah, but you didn't know that maturity was equivalent

1:48:40

to wisdom It took you five hours of contemplating

1:48:42

to get there

1:48:43

and now that you've equated those two things don't

1:48:46

take that for granted as something Insignificant

1:48:48

when you make an equation between two

1:48:51

important concepts like wisdom and

1:48:53

maturity

1:48:56

or maturity and

1:48:59

selflessness for example or

1:49:02

Maturity and consciousness when you connect

1:49:04

these things it might seem like well, you're just saying

1:49:06

the same things over and over

1:49:09

again, but it's like no you're making deeper connections

1:49:11

in your mind and

1:49:14

That

1:49:16

depth of understanding is important see understanding

1:49:18

is not just a binary thing where it's like oh you understand it

1:49:20

or you don't it's like no how deeply do you understand

1:49:23

it because the more deeply you understand the more it's gonna

1:49:25

transform life and Your

1:49:28

life can be transformed in many different degrees

1:49:30

So don't think that you're just wasting time by

1:49:32

you know Oh, well this episode

1:49:34

was

1:49:34

kind of similar and repeat of the old episode. It's

1:49:36

like no I don't try to repeat content I'm

1:49:39

very careful about that if I think that two episodes

1:49:41

are really the same thing. I don't record

1:49:43

them I Try

1:49:47

to hit it from different angles so you can equate things

1:49:49

and connect things this connection and equation

1:49:51

this is critical critical

1:49:54

to this work and To

1:49:57

helping you to become more mature Because

1:50:01

a lot of times you can understand a thing but you only understand

1:50:03

it from one angle and then you can't recognize

1:50:05

it from another angle. So to be able to recognize

1:50:07

the same thing from multiple angles, this

1:50:10

is not common. Not

1:50:16

common at all. And

1:50:19

this is part of our work here together. Now

1:50:24

you might say, well, but Leo, I mean, man,

1:50:26

it kind of sounds like you're making,

1:50:29

becoming mature, like this obligation,

1:50:31

this chore that I have to do. And

1:50:33

isn't this kind of like a not

1:50:36

a very fun way to live? What if I

1:50:38

want to live more adventurously and

1:50:41

spontaneously in a sort of maybe

1:50:43

even more feminine fashion, a more chaotic fashion? Isn't

1:50:46

like maturity for square people and, you

1:50:48

know, only certain kinds of people.

1:50:51

Why become mature after

1:50:53

all if it's so much hard work? Well,

1:51:00

maturity is not just for men or for women.

1:51:03

And it's not just for one personality type or another. Maturity

1:51:06

is something much more fundamental than that.

1:51:10

And I suggest that no

1:51:11

matter what kind of person you are, what kind of lifestyle

1:51:13

you want to have, and you can have more spontaneous,

1:51:15

more adventurous lifestyles versus not,

1:51:19

maturity is probably something you want to seriously

1:51:22

consider.

1:51:23

Why?

1:51:24

Because it's going to

1:51:26

help you substantially with your

1:51:28

relationships.

1:51:30

It's going to give you more stability and peace of mind.

1:51:33

It's going to reduce suffering significantly for

1:51:35

you.

1:51:38

It will lessen conflict

1:51:41

and you will have less instances

1:51:43

of getting into trouble. Immature people get

1:51:45

themselves into a lot of trouble. And a lot

1:51:47

of times they're not as lucky as a Donald Trump.

1:51:51

Trump is extremely lucky

1:51:53

that he didn't get himself into more trouble than he already did.

1:51:57

And his trouble

1:51:59

ain't over yet. Also,

1:52:03

more success. Sure,

1:52:06

these days, many celebrities

1:52:08

and very successful people, they can become successful

1:52:11

even though they're very

1:52:11

immature. That's possible, but generally

1:52:14

speaking, being immature is

1:52:16

not a good strategy for becoming successful.

1:52:22

It can work, but

1:52:26

in general, immature people are not

1:52:29

successful people for the most part because

1:52:32

they just can't maintain the consistency

1:52:35

that's required to achieve solid

1:52:38

success.

1:52:39

Or their success is very rocky. They get

1:52:41

it and then they lose it,

1:52:44

which is, why would you want that kind of success?

1:52:46

You want solid success. And

1:52:49

if you've been, especially if you've been struggling,

1:52:51

maybe you've tried to become successful. Maybe you

1:52:53

tried to launch a business

1:52:55

or you

1:52:57

tried to make some money, right? You

1:53:02

tried to become successful and it's

1:53:04

failing and failing and failing and failing. Well,

1:53:08

maybe now you're getting sick of the fact

1:53:10

that you're too immature to do that and

1:53:12

that what's necessary is not some sort

1:53:14

of

1:53:15

business in a box, get rich quick scheme or some crypto

1:53:18

thing. No, you need some, you need to go deeper

1:53:20

into the foundation of your psyche and personality

1:53:22

and look at your immaturity. How

1:53:25

do you fix your immaturity so that you could then

1:53:27

run a stable successful business over

1:53:29

years?

1:53:33

That's probably the kind of solution you're going to need.

1:53:39

More satisfaction. There's

1:53:41

a kind of deep, higher

1:53:46

quality satisfaction that comes with

1:53:48

living a mature life that the

1:53:50

immature person cannot

1:53:52

even fathom or appreciate. to

1:54:01

live a more profound life. If you want a

1:54:03

profound life, which is what I teach, if

1:54:06

you're interested in that notion, then

1:54:10

you can't get that through immaturity. The

1:54:13

path is the path of maturity,

1:54:16

the path of consciousness, the path of wisdom, the

1:54:18

path of goodness, the path

1:54:20

of

1:54:24

introspection, contemplation, the

1:54:28

path of selflessness.

1:54:32

Selflessness. And

1:54:36

ultimately the reason you want to pursue

1:54:40

maturity is consider

1:54:44

this.

1:54:46

This is where we wrap up.

1:54:48

I want you to consider mature love.

1:54:55

Consider that there's such a thing as immature love

1:54:57

and then there's

1:54:58

mature love. And

1:55:03

that this is the biggest thing that

1:55:05

you're missing. And

1:55:07

that this is ultimately the whole

1:55:10

point of life and human development

1:55:12

is

1:55:13

to go from immature love to

1:55:16

mature love. And

1:55:19

then the deepest satisfaction you get is mature

1:55:23

love.

1:55:23

But the question is, what

1:55:26

is mature love? And

1:55:29

that's something that is so

1:55:32

profound

1:55:33

that it goes beyond the scope of this episode

1:55:36

and I'm not going to elaborate upon it here. If

1:55:38

you want you can find other episodes.

1:55:41

What is love part one? What is love part

1:55:43

two? And

1:55:45

plenty of others. There's another one I have called

1:55:47

How to Practice Love. Those

1:55:52

will get you started towards understanding of

1:55:54

mature love. But

1:55:56

that's what

1:55:59

I'm going to talk about.

1:56:00

That's really the prize. That's why

1:56:02

you're doing all the sacrificing. That's

1:56:05

why you're putting in the work.

1:56:09

That's why you become an adult,

1:56:12

is to experience mature love. The

1:56:31

desire to develop yourself

1:56:34

and an interest in self-help,

1:56:37

I would suggest, is

1:56:38

a hallmark of maturity. Most

1:56:41

people

1:56:42

are not that interested in self-help.

1:56:44

In fact,

1:56:46

a lot of people like to shit on self-help,

1:56:49

to

1:56:51

be cynical about self-help,

1:56:56

to dissuade you from doing self-help, talking

1:56:58

about it as some kind of scam or something.

1:57:02

These are people who are not interested in developing themselves. This

1:57:06

is not the kind of people you want to surround yourself with. So

1:57:09

if you're the kind of person who's interested in self-help,

1:57:11

that alone is enough.

1:57:15

I

1:57:18

can work with that. I can work on you. I can

1:57:20

help you, if you're that kind of person. Because

1:57:23

that's the little, that's the diamond in

1:57:25

the rough. See, we can take that diamond and we can polish it

1:57:27

up. That's what

1:57:29

I teach is self-help. So

1:57:35

recognize that diamond in the rough within

1:57:37

you, and now just spend the next decade or two polishing

1:57:39

it up,

1:57:41

by pursuing your passion, following

1:57:43

up on your passion of self-help.

1:57:45

Reading the books,

1:57:48

watching the content, going to workshops, so forth, do that. If

1:57:51

you've got that itch,

1:57:53

that passion for self-help the way that I did when

1:57:55

I first discovered it, maybe 15 years

1:57:58

ago or so,

1:57:59

Do that.

1:58:01

That's crucial. And also

1:58:03

an interest in spirituality, serious

1:58:06

spirituality. That's also a hallmark of maturity.

1:58:09

That's also a little seed, a little

1:58:11

kernel, a little diamond in the rough that needs to be

1:58:13

polished up over decades.

1:58:17

That's key.

1:58:20

Don't overlook that. Prize that in yourself. You have

1:58:22

something in you, you have that diamond in the rough within

1:58:24

you. You are a diamond in the rough and we're gonna polish you

1:58:26

up

1:58:28

through this work. In

1:58:33

conclusion, immature people are devils

1:58:37

and mature people are gods.

1:58:40

And

1:58:42

of course as God, you gain access

1:58:44

to infinite love.

1:58:45

And

1:58:49

of course that's all there is.

1:58:52

And that's all that life is about.

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