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afternoon whenever you're listening to this episode and
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welcome to the AFK with Ninja podcast. Today's
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episode is going to
2:29
be about multicasting. Multicasting
2:33
is when you are streaming to multiple platforms
2:35
at once. It's pretty simple. You
2:38
can use a little, there's a website Restream. I
2:40
think Streamlabs OBS allows you to do it as
2:42
well. Yeah, you just plug
2:44
in all of your stream keys on all of your different
2:46
platforms. You click the go live button on your
2:50
OBS and you're live
2:52
everywhere. So that is
2:55
multicasting. So you're streaming to
2:57
Twitch, TikTok, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram,
2:59
whatever you want to add
3:01
to your multicast list. Yeah,
3:04
very simple. Well, simply put,
3:06
I guess it can be a little bit difficult if
3:09
you're not familiar with some
3:11
of the software. Multicasting
3:13
hasn't really been a thing until recently,
3:16
at least for me. It started about
3:18
a year ago, a year ago today,
3:21
the anniversary of my multicasting. It
3:24
was a crazy journey.
3:27
I mean, streaming and reading
3:30
OneChat, especially when you got tens
3:32
of thousands of viewers, is hard enough. But
3:35
then to add different platforms that you've never even
3:37
streamed them before ever, because I was just on
3:39
Justin TV and Twitch and then obviously Mixer. But
3:43
it's pretty easy to handle OneChat. You can
3:45
handle OneChat. But to make sure
3:47
that you have your Twitter stand up,
3:49
TikTok's a different beast, especially if you
3:51
want to use a different OBS to make sure that
3:54
resolution is different on TikTok. People are watching on their
3:56
phones and on a monitor. So
3:58
I have a different OBS for that. It
4:01
was tough, it was very stressful at first because
4:03
I'm just sitting here trying to make sure that one
4:06
platform isn't lagging over the other, that I'm
4:08
trying to be interactive and making sure I'm reading all the
4:10
chats so that no one feels left out. When
4:13
I started, I was doing Facebook, Twitter,
4:16
TikTok, Instagram, Twitch,
4:20
and Twitch and YouTube.
4:22
And now I'm doing kick every once in a while as well. And
4:25
dude, it's fun. It's fun. I felt like I
4:27
was shivering for the first time again when
4:29
it started. I was so nervous the first couple of days.
4:33
But dude, it was great. It was great. I
4:35
think it was a perfect spot for
4:37
me to do such a thing, especially
4:39
after switching platforms so many times. I was just like,
4:41
I think it would be best if I just did
4:44
it everywhere. And this initial
4:46
idea came from Jess and I.
4:48
Jess and I were having this conversation, I think, when
4:50
I was about to sign up for my Twitch contract
4:52
years ago. This is when we actually switched
4:54
to Mixer. Jess and I
4:56
always wanted to make sure we had different options and
4:58
made sure that we were taken care of and that
5:00
we were never in a terrible situation. And one of
5:02
the things that we thought of and talked about was
5:04
we want to sign with Twitch. We want to sign
5:06
with Twitch. We want the money to be right. We
5:10
just want a great deal. So Twitch is our number one,
5:12
of course. Our second offer was
5:15
still in the works, but we're like, I love the Mixer
5:17
platform. It would be crazy. It would
5:19
be crazy in the space to
5:21
make a switch, switch to another platform that
5:23
isn't Twitch, an exclusivity deal.
5:27
It's unheard of. It'd be insane to do it
5:29
at this level. So that
5:31
was our second option. A little bit more
5:33
risky, obviously, because Twitch was king and still
5:36
kind of is for live streaming. And then our
5:38
third option, and this is, I think, I
5:40
honestly couldn't tell you if this was Jess or me that came
5:42
up with this idea. I think we both did. I think we
5:44
both kind of were like, what if we just kind of, what
5:47
if we just stream everywhere? We
5:49
don't sign with anybody and we
5:51
stream everywhere all at once, all
5:53
the time, and just get as
5:56
many, and like just to be able to get as many of yours
5:58
as possible. Brian, I mean, like what's better than that? And
6:00
then our business plan was app. So obviously
6:02
we would hopefully, because you can still be printed on
6:04
YouTube, you can still make subscriptions and money and donations
6:07
and stuff like that off of YouTube even without an
6:09
exclusivity deal, which is incredible, even
6:11
if you're multicasting. But we're like, where are we going
6:14
to make the money? Where's it going to be
6:16
the main source of income there? And we
6:18
were like, okay, well, if we're going to be doing streaming
6:21
everywhere, eventually what we could do is once we've
6:23
proven that the concept works and that we get
6:25
viewers everywhere, we can then start to sell exclusivity.
6:27
And it's something that we still could do, by
6:29
the way. And I've
6:33
had the option yet really because we haven't
6:35
hosted anything worth selling exclusivity for. But
6:38
then it's like, okay, well, who wants this amazing
6:40
Ninja Vegas 2.0? We
6:44
can do an exclusivity deal where this event is
6:46
going to be streamed only on YouTube or only
6:48
on Kik or only on TikTok or only on
6:51
Twitch. They have
6:53
to pay for it. They have to pay for the exclusivity. It
6:55
would be crazy. We're not trying to delete any of
6:57
these companies dry, but it's just the same thing with
6:59
NFL Sunday ticket, right? Things
7:01
like that. It's like, okay, well, what's going to be on the platform? What
7:05
are we streaming these games on? Is it going to
7:07
be Amazon? Is Amazon going to buy? Is it going
7:09
to be YouTube TV this year? Is
7:12
it going to be DirecTV, NFL Sunday ticket, blah,
7:14
blah, blah, whatever? So
7:16
that was our master plan
7:19
five years ago, four years ago, we thought about
7:21
that. And this
7:24
year, or last year,
7:26
I should say, we were at that at
7:28
that road again. There
7:30
wasn't a real offer. And a
7:33
lot of exclusivity deals were kind of just
7:35
starting to disappear anyways. So we were prepared
7:37
to pivot, right? And I
7:39
hated the thought of being just
7:41
like, hey, you need to stream six hours
7:44
a day, eight hours a day, every day,
7:46
like to hit this minimum to get paid.
7:49
It was a terrible feeling. I barely
7:51
even hit them on Twitch. I
7:53
mean, it's just, it's, you know, these minimum required,
7:55
these minimum deals in general, these
7:57
deals, it, You know, the company.
8:00
To be taken care of right and protected rights of
8:02
these minimum requirements It makes sense said but a you
8:04
know but it's just it really does it be starts
8:06
to feel like a job sources like a job which
8:08
is. You know it is
8:10
a job but. It. Really does. This
8:12
is like you wake up. It's like okay, I need.
8:15
To. Stream and hours a day. Or I need to catch up
8:17
on hours and I need to three more. In.
8:19
If you're not enjoying yourself, I can. reliably the fun out
8:21
of streaming was by the way. Spoiler Alert is the reason
8:23
that people want to watch streams to begin with. Who they
8:25
want to see the humor, having fun they want and when
8:27
the sure miss having fun ninety nine percent the time. But
8:30
sad as having fun. And. It's a great experience.
8:33
You know I was a cyclists and you know will make
8:35
money on you tube. Twist The viewers will
8:37
be there so that a be great. Like
8:39
to see I that still I'm going to given
8:41
the majority of my viewers and then I'm like
8:44
will assign Alec to Talk Amie I silly tic
8:46
tac as incredible as the stream, a meaningless go
8:48
viral randomly at any point. And.
8:51
Get. Incredible numbers and any to push those years
8:53
to remain platforms. It's is is it was just
8:55
great. So. Yeah, I decided I was like
8:57
listen, let's do this. Let's do this. Like. The
9:00
money will come in the future. Like. Correct
9:02
as is. no deals, right? So we're not being
9:04
paid millions, Rocking paid anything by anyone. Else
9:07
I was do this will what you know
9:09
will have will read more viewers which means
9:11
that we can ask for for more revenue
9:13
and offer more things to sponsors. And.
9:16
A I did in a bid works. I'm.
9:18
Pretty. Quickly you know our numbers are necessary to
9:20
climb. I wasn't just serving on Twitch anymore. I was
9:23
adding another. You know, anywhere from six thousand to ten
9:25
thousand years on you tube. I was adding anywhere from
9:27
two to ten thousand years. I'm sick talk. You
9:30
know, a prime time, you know,
9:32
new for night season. We're pulling
9:34
in like thirty to thirty to
9:36
fifty thousand years across all platforms.
9:38
It was amazing. It works, was
9:40
great because I've worked star on
9:42
our sponsors are happy we're starting
9:44
to see sponsorship offers. That.
9:46
In the contract. Warlike,
9:48
Requesting multi casting right when we were
9:51
doing some of the seems so. It
9:53
worked. It was awesome is dope. I. Live.
9:56
Learn from it. i think it
9:58
has the power back in the creators I love that,
10:01
you know, if you have the option to
10:03
do it, I think go for
10:05
it Right. I think even
10:07
right now you're allowed to stream on tiktok and
10:09
twitch at the same time because tiktok isn't necessarily
10:11
a gaming platform Or
10:14
it's not yeah It's not looked at as
10:16
a as a streaming platform per se like via
10:18
desktop or whatever So you're able to do that?
10:21
And I mean I try to try to try to figure it out
10:23
Try to talk to your twitch rep or whoever you are and see
10:25
if you can stream Everywhere because again, I think
10:27
that it'll it's the best way to grow your brand. It's best
10:29
way to grow You know
10:31
to be recognized The
10:34
more people that can find you you can funnel them
10:36
into you know Whichever platform you enjoy streaming the most
10:38
on or you enjoy, you know
10:40
the chat the interface whatever. I
10:43
think it's a great idea Lot
10:45
of benefits a lot of upside discoverability goes up
10:48
So that would be my advice to some creators that would be
10:50
my to a lot of creators Especially if you're
10:53
starting out. This is really more so if you're starting
10:55
out Hey, if I
10:57
was ninja we are gonna
10:59
do what we are gonna do Here's another
11:01
thing I've learned from all the casting from
11:04
my experience I have
11:06
not seen like viewers Heavily
11:09
dip on one count on one platform and
11:12
go to another right if anything
11:14
I've pulled thousands
11:16
of people over from tiktok to
11:19
my youtube and to my twitch like I've
11:21
pulled people off of other platforms and And
11:23
and they've found that they've enjoyed, you know
11:25
a viewing experience better on on twitch So
11:28
it's like if anything it's just
11:30
beneficial for the platform Right people aren't going
11:32
to leave if I'm live on twitch and
11:34
someone's already on twitch and I'm also live
11:36
on YouTube People aren't
11:39
leaving twitch to pull up my youtube
11:41
right and watch me on youtube unless I'm
11:43
funneling them there and I'm not I
11:46
would love to have a conversation and really Have
11:49
a nice little deep dive with some of the higher ups at
11:51
twitch and just be like listen, what are you guys doing? I
11:54
think it's outdated right unless you're signing
11:56
unless you're literally just signing an exclusivity
11:58
deal Right, which is fair.
12:01
It's fine and all gonna fund get
12:03
paid get your contract if you you know
12:05
If you can sign something like that, right? I don't even know if
12:07
they're doing those anymore really at a high level But
12:10
I feel like at the end of the day Twitch is just missing
12:12
out on or any platform is missing out on just for
12:15
you know, it's it's kind of putting a little cap
12:17
on the streamer and It
12:19
also putting a cap on their own platform because again,
12:22
they could be pulling viewers elsewhere and and maybe even
12:24
you know Funnelling them back
12:26
to a different platform like you to switch for money.
12:28
Who knows? It's like Hey, you said I deal
12:30
with twitch that all you know, and maybe you
12:32
get like a better cut of it You're allowed
12:34
to multicast but one of the deals is is
12:36
that every once in a while you have to
12:38
say hey guys I'm also live on Twitch as
12:41
well Like my you know, maybe you need to
12:43
say my preferred streaming platform. So like go ahead
12:45
and check me out. I'll follow me there I
12:48
think there's there's still so much Landscape
12:51
like streaming landscape that really hasn't
12:53
even come out yet at
12:56
a high level personally, so that's
12:59
my two cents and everything that I've really learned
13:01
and talked about loved
13:04
about thought about did about with With
13:07
multicasting. I love doing it every day, you
13:10
know, especially as somebody who loves
13:13
streaming to be able to put it out everywhere It's really
13:15
cool. It's really cool. Tick-tock chat can
13:17
be a little ridiculous 9 never sent at the time But
13:19
other than that, it's a lot of fun We're
13:29
in a period of rapid change and sometimes it
13:31
can feel like things are spinning out of control
13:34
With political tensions anxiety and loneliness rising
13:36
and questions about how to live a
13:38
good life on everyone's mind Finding
13:41
answers can seem harder than ever For
13:43
millennia spiritual thinkers have offered wisdom and
13:45
tools to help people find their way
13:47
in trying times Advice that
13:49
even a scientist like me dave disteno is
13:51
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13:54
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so my team prepared a little document here. So
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I'm just going to read through these questions off
15:18
and we're just going to pop them off in
15:20
answers. When
15:23
was your first multicast thought? So
15:26
again, retouching on
15:28
this, first thought was 2018, 2019 when we
15:30
made the mixer switch. Jess
15:35
and I had thought about it, planned about
15:37
it, and it was on our mind. And
15:40
then when our Twitch contracts was coming up again
15:42
after we left mixer, after mixer unexpectedly
15:45
concaved within itself or
15:47
imploded, I guess is a better word. We re-signed
15:50
with Twitch. It was beautiful, fun. I
15:53
obviously still love Twitch. Born
15:55
and raised there basically, right? Even before it was
15:57
Twitch, I streamed on Justin TV. That
16:00
was why we were like, okay, listen, let's
16:04
do something different. Let's set the tone again, right?
16:07
Let's break the mold. Let's break the
16:09
streaming mold. And we multicast
16:12
it. I mean, first large streamer to not sign
16:14
an exclusive contract in the next couple of years
16:17
and to just say, screw it, I'm going to
16:19
go live everywhere. I love that. I mean, again,
16:21
just trying to pioneer the way for future generations,
16:23
man, and future streamers out there. We're
16:25
in it right now. We're
16:27
weighing the groundwork
16:31
for the future of streaming with
16:33
all of our decisions. I'm basically talking to all the big
16:36
streamers out there. Another question. Take
16:40
us back to September 2nd, 2022
16:43
when you quit streaming. Was it orchestrated?
16:45
Yes, it was. And I didn't like
16:47
it. I didn't like it. I
16:51
read the pitch and what we were
16:53
going to do, and it came across
16:55
as a mental crisis, and I didn't
16:57
like that. And I
17:00
did it anyways. I regret the
17:02
way we took the break. Would
17:06
have done it differently, for sure. Obviously, no
17:08
one was hurt in
17:10
the filming process. Didn't like it.
17:13
Didn't want to do it. Did it anyways.
17:16
I still believe in what we were doing at the end
17:18
goal, right? Coming back and saying I'm going to be live
17:20
everywhere. But yeah,
17:23
I didn't like the orchestrated plan. Wouldn't
17:26
do it again.
17:29
Tell us about the development of the multicast
17:31
announcement. I mean, it was pretty simple. Just
17:34
me and the team. We were just figuring
17:37
out the best way to tell everybody. I
17:40
was sick with COVID, I think, when
17:42
I filmed that, and I didn't
17:45
want to do it because I was
17:47
like 100 degree fever. I was hot, sweaty, I lost
17:50
my voice. But we did it anyways for the crew,
17:52
for the team. I
17:54
thought the announcement was fun. And I
17:56
absolutely loved working with Andre, who's my
17:58
assistant. right now
18:01
and Victoria who there
18:04
are like social media people and I just
18:06
love to working with them. So I would you
18:09
know it's like working with friends it's the greatest
18:11
if you can because
18:13
everything's just fun even if you don't want to do certain things.
18:18
Where were you in the multicast process at
18:20
that time comfortable or total noob? I was
18:23
a total noob I had no
18:25
idea ReStream even existed I don't even know how
18:27
to multicast at the time I was terrified of
18:29
reading multiple chats at once because it's like my
18:31
chat was already kind of toxic. People
18:34
just constantly saying you know you washed
18:36
up you fell off etc. You know
18:38
the typical 2023 twitch chat
18:41
for a ninja streamer I
18:44
do I'm telling I'm not trying to like boo-hoo
18:47
but dude I have one of the most I
18:49
have one of the most depressing chats like
18:52
across the board I mean every so I'm basically
18:54
being told I've fallen off on four different platforms
18:56
now every day still
18:58
pushing through and trying to put out great content but
19:02
I would say that's definitely one of the
19:04
setbacks if your chat is toxic is that
19:06
you have to read four chat toxic chats
19:09
so that's definitely been a struggle for me just
19:12
trying to stay positive and then
19:14
I look at what I'm doing right obviously I'm
19:16
making a lot of people happy across different platforms
19:19
as well right hopefully the positive outweighs the negative
19:21
but you know all it takes is one bad
19:23
comment and it messes you up more than you
19:25
know a hundred good ones and that sucks but
19:29
it's just uh it's how it is now I've been
19:31
streaming for a very long time and it's still tough
19:33
sometimes to just not let people get to you especially
19:35
if you're having a bad day if you're having a
19:37
bad day and you're streaming it's easier to get
19:39
to the streamer and you could tell they just don't
19:42
look they you can just tell you could see right
19:45
your streaming it's not a youtube video you can't just like
19:47
start the camera on get super
19:50
energetic for an uh you know for a
19:52
30 second take and then turn
19:54
off the camera right you're live for hours you
19:56
see a lot of the vulnerabilities of the streamer
19:58
um And if they're having
20:00
a bad day, it's just so much easier to get another skin.
20:05
Big announcement September 8, 2022, you announced
20:07
that you'll be streaming everywhere.
20:09
Were you nervous? Were you excited?
20:11
Yeah, I got the nits the
20:14
day of. The nits, I
20:16
call those the nervous shits. Got
20:19
them a lot in my competitive career as
20:22
a professional Halo player and Adrian Zun
20:24
player and PUBG player and 4.0
20:26
player. But I
20:28
was nervous. I was excited. And the
20:30
nits were at all time high. Again,
20:33
never multi-streamed once in my life. I
20:36
was felt like a fish out of water for
20:38
a little bit. Felt like I was just trying to read
20:40
everything all at once. It was crazy. Never
20:44
tested multicasting out before making the
20:46
announcement either. So we
20:48
were kind of just playing with fire.
20:50
Like, hey, let's hope it works. My assistant
20:52
Andre did everything that he could to make
20:54
sure that we would be prepared. He tested
20:57
multicasting out on his account. So
20:59
we were confident. But it
21:02
was, it was
21:04
risky. So
21:07
straight up, how are you liking multicasting? I'm absolutely loving
21:09
it. I'm absolutely loving it.
21:12
It's probably one of the reasons I'm still
21:14
streaming because it's so fun. And
21:17
it's so cool to just read, you know, just to
21:19
see the different ebbs and flows of different chats and
21:22
being able to stream for everyone all the time everywhere. It's
21:24
great. What are the benefits and
21:27
drawbacks? What are the key benefits and drawbacks
21:29
you've encountered in streaming simultaneously across multiple platforms?
21:32
The benefits, I mean, more viewers. More
21:35
viewers are going to have access to more people. I think
21:39
that, and that's going
21:41
to give you more power over what you're
21:44
demanding or what you can request from sponsors, right?
21:46
Your asks can go up because your reaches
21:49
is growing and there you go, you're allowed
21:51
to charge more or, you
21:53
know, make more. So it really does put the power back
21:55
in the streamers hands in a lot of ways.
21:57
A Drawback again.
22:00
You're reading a lot of shots
22:02
can be toxic. Can. Be very
22:04
bad for your mental health if you're in alphabet. Yeah,
22:06
what a bad day in your eating five different. Chattel.
22:08
Talking smack or something. Can. Be
22:11
bad. Doesn't totals respect them?
22:14
Drawbacks. I see like a off the top of
22:16
my head. Crazy. Are
22:21
you never getting your streams amidst the ever
22:23
changing nature? social media streaming? I mean, I'm
22:25
not. About his anything. Other
22:29
than. Just. When. People.
22:31
Try to. I think I could better all the time
22:34
outside it's not as much anymore you know since the
22:36
I will call today falling off inning. I've
22:38
had some risk is baffling. To
22:42
comedic. And we're not getting click
22:44
bait and by and having like thousand articles written about us
22:46
like we were in the past. Which. Is
22:48
phenomenal and actually eat very stress
22:50
relieving like. Did.
22:53
I love it alike in our yeah I would
22:55
not want to be and like a hassan position
22:57
right where it like he farts at the wrong
22:59
in the wind and there's like a thousand articles
23:01
attacking him. Same. With. Who
23:05
else is on a same with that guy? As you see all those
23:07
guys are another you. Know
23:09
Thank you. I. Like the
23:11
spot. kind of like right here did. Zero
23:14
that my entire career. The throw that minds higher
23:16
Like the last Eight Eight year. Okay, so mean
23:18
the last eight years. The first eight years of
23:21
my swimming career. I was anywhere
23:23
from. The thousand viewers to
23:25
halo. To. Anymore for maybe
23:27
ten to sixteen thousand on like poverty rates
23:29
in the one. And that
23:31
was seat those peak bag. Weren't.
23:34
Getting touch some by mainstream media. No
23:37
one gave a shit about you unless you
23:39
you know you did some crazy shit. And
23:41
that's it. The perfect place to be and I feel like were there again. Which.
23:44
Is great. Accepted this now because
23:47
I feel like badass art. podcasts
23:49
are kind of listen to by
23:51
everyone, whereas streams necessarily are are
23:53
in a way. This. Is
23:55
making sense of my head? But. I
23:58
do like topics that I touch on. here are
24:01
kind of back in that same like it's up for
24:03
grabs. Anyone can kind of poke and prod at it
24:05
and we might get taken out of context. Hopefully we don't get taken
24:07
out of context in any of the things that we talk about here,
24:09
but we'll find out. Diverse
24:13
audiences. Have you noticed different audience behaviors on
24:16
various streaming platforms? I
24:18
will say that when you super chat
24:20
and donate on YouTube, it auto-corrects to
24:22
or it, you know, it auto-donates in
24:24
the currency that people are donating to. I've
24:27
found that there's just a lot of people all
24:29
over the world that are watching me on YouTube
24:32
and probably watching me on Twitch as well, but there's really
24:34
no way of telling where they're from on Twitch. So
24:37
that's what I've noticed about different audiences
24:39
really, but nothing crazy. How
24:43
do you engage with these diverse viewer
24:45
groups? I mean, I just game. My
24:47
entire content has always been be entertaining,
24:50
be funny, and be talented at the game that you're
24:52
playing. And like, that's just fun to
24:54
watch. And I think it is. I
24:56
think it is. I've
24:58
swore by that my entire life as
25:01
a streamer, like the best way
25:03
to be entertaining is to be really good at a
25:05
video game. It's the same thing with like the
25:07
NFL, the NBA. There are billions
25:10
of people watching other
25:13
people play sports because
25:15
they can't be that good and it's fun
25:17
to watch. And I take that concept
25:20
and I've applied it to streaming. And
25:23
that's in every aspect of streaming. I mean,
25:25
if you're the best pianist, violinist, rapper,
25:29
editor, musician, artist, gamer,
25:32
pub G player, H1Z1 player, Halo
25:35
player, Call of Duty player, Hello,
25:37
Katie Island player. You
25:39
have something to offer and people want to watch and learn
25:41
from you or will. And
25:44
like, you don't even have to be entertaining. You can
25:46
be as dull as a brick wall. But
25:48
if you're that talented, like that is a
25:50
form of entertainment. So people ask
25:53
me, how do I blow my stream up? And
25:55
I Jokingly say, but also very seriously say,
25:57
be better than everyone else at the game
25:59
you're playing. And I mean it. Which
26:03
audience is my favorite? in which had is
26:05
my favorite Me I feel I guess one
26:07
the same question I have to say to
26:10
it's sat still the community there. Is.
26:13
Just. Ah, they
26:15
understand means they understand jokes. They
26:17
understand. Streaming. So.
26:20
It would still re it rains predicting their.
26:25
If we scroll down almost done, almost don't
26:27
our second ever episode of this is weird
26:29
by the way. For those, I appreciate every
26:31
one of the as are tuning in. Wherever.
26:34
You're tuning and is my second of a solo
26:36
podcast. so up the recording on actually alone the
26:38
time nobody seeing at the questions for me. So.
26:41
Hopefully these get better, more fluid and
26:43
have the Yazidis the enjoying so far.
26:47
Multitasking for up and comers. Deeply multitasking
26:49
could be beneficial for up and coming
26:51
content creators or is it more suited
26:53
for established streamers? What said people prepare
26:56
for if they decide to do it.
26:59
I think it's absolutely for for all.
27:02
Again, If your
27:04
body shaming the have a higher chance of being discovered.
27:06
If. You're also. Creating. Content.
27:09
As a good benefits. On
27:11
established streamer more because they can already
27:14
take one of their audiences and kind
27:16
of brush them a be a brush
27:18
them everywhere. Kind of get
27:20
them off the one viewer list across all the
27:22
other platforms and then maybe also start to get
27:25
more viewers that way, so I think it's easier
27:27
to multitask if you're already established. I
27:29
still recommend doing it if you're new. Especially
27:32
Six Oct. Six Rock is the silent.
27:34
Like that, the silent killer. But like.
27:37
That's. A place for you to just go viral for
27:39
the the things. And if you're producing
27:41
really funny and interesting tanzanite, you all.
27:44
He. A one big viral strain. Ten thousand
27:46
viewers are followers, you know, send a mere
27:48
mainstream and. And all his you
27:50
may be averaging fifty to honor viewers on twitter, kicker,
27:52
you, tube or whatever and now you're like. You.
27:55
Know I really picking up some momentum so.
27:58
Definitely. What I recommend: What
28:00
did you prepare for? Ah,
28:02
just dass das hard. It's
28:05
tough. it's stressful. Ah
28:07
when you start reading other chats being
28:09
I'm. Be my the mother the
28:11
once it it just it just feels different use of
28:13
the try it and you'll figure it out. In
28:15
the exactly what I'm talking about. It's. Very
28:17
different feeling. And
28:21
other future of multitasking. What
28:23
does ninjas future of multi
28:25
casting look like? Rumbles Kick?
28:27
perhaps? So. In
28:30
a perfect world. Not. Joking.
28:32
This. Is my this is my my endgame business idea
28:34
I did they are going to share but i myself
28:37
cause i. Don't. Care Binding. When.
28:39
It comes as us. Anymore? Really? My.
28:42
Ultimate goal was. Getting paid
28:44
to stream elsewhere. Little
28:46
many contracts. Okay,
28:50
For Geico, many contracts.
28:52
To multitask for example, right now. I'm.
28:55
Streaming everywhere, Right for free. No one
28:57
thing. I get paid on you to because
28:59
I have a they allow me to be sub there
29:01
and to get ad revenue and subs but I'm
29:03
not getting paid by choice to three months which obviously.
29:06
You can subscribe to me on so it's you can't
29:08
donate to me on Twitter. You can't. I
29:10
have no ad revenue from Twitch. I don't get
29:12
paid to three months or talk. I don't get
29:14
paid to stream on kick right? So
29:17
the goal was. To.
29:21
Eventually be like hey I will stream
29:23
on your platform. Like
29:26
you could get me. It's. Not an
29:28
exclusivity deal. It's a non exclusive deal
29:30
to multicast the Oh I will add
29:32
you to my list. Of streaming
29:34
platforms for money. On
29:37
of thousand dollars. A year
29:39
Two hundred thousand dollars a year A
29:41
million dollars a year to what your
29:43
whatever as you you're worth is whatever
29:46
your value as. You bring
29:48
value to the platform bi re like.
29:50
They like look at x you see Scapa
29:52
the. Know he's an example of somebody
29:55
who's doing that not exclusive deal with kick. The.
29:57
idea though is is exactly what trying
30:00
to do and I recommend others try to do in the
30:02
future and streamers everywhere because I think it's very possible. You
30:04
go to Facebook and you're like, hey, listen, like I have
30:06
10,000 viewers on Twitch. I have 20,000 viewers on Twitch, 30,
30:08
40, 50, whatever. I
30:11
have a thousand. I will add your platform
30:13
to my list for a
30:16
fee. It's genius.
30:19
And it's like, again, it doesn't have to be a crazy amount
30:21
of money. It doesn't have to be, you know,
30:24
egregious, but you add two
30:26
to three small contracts to
30:29
your multicast list. All of a
30:31
sudden you're streaming everywhere.
30:33
You're getting donated to and paid for everywhere,
30:35
right? You're getting subs everywhere. You're getting ad
30:37
revenue on five different platforms. You're
30:41
getting all the viewership from all the platforms
30:44
and you're getting paid to do it everywhere. Like
30:47
talk about the dream, talk
30:50
about full control. And that's
30:52
where my mind. We're
31:07
in a period of rapid change and sometimes it
31:09
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31:12
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31:14
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31:16
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31:19
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32:17
Closing thoughts, ladies and gentlemen, advice for
32:19
creators, based on your multicasting experience, what
32:21
advice would you offer to content
32:24
creators looking to embark on a similar journey? I
32:26
feel like we already touched on this. Go
32:29
for it, go
32:31
for it, give it your all. Believe
32:35
in yourself and
32:39
don't quit your job to stream. That just kind
32:41
of popped into my head. I've seen people do it before. This
32:45
is like a little random piece of advice, guys. There
32:48
are 24 hours in a day. If you're sleeping six
32:50
to eight hours, working another eight hours, you have another
32:52
eight hours, right, to
32:54
do something. You can stream
32:56
three to four hours and
32:59
build a community that way if you're consistent with your
33:01
schedule. You do not need to quit your job. You
33:03
do not need to quit school to
33:05
start your streaming career for a year,
33:07
which is what so many people, I feel like, try to
33:09
do. You can
33:12
gauge and get a really good read
33:14
on your streaming career while you are
33:16
living your life without having
33:18
to make any crazy changes. So
33:21
that's just my piece of advice.
33:23
There's my advice for creators. It's
33:26
hot. And
33:35
that was the first off with my favorite segment.
33:38
We do this on our guests. We'll be doing this
33:40
in the solos. We had some people send in some
33:42
this or that rapid fire questions. So
33:44
we're gonna rip it. This
33:47
or that, single cast or multicast? We're gonna
33:49
go multicast. It's way more fun. If
33:52
you're somebody who has got severe, crippling
33:54
ADHD, ADD, you already know what
33:56
it is. All my millennials out there.
34:00
I love being able to read several chats at a
34:02
time. It keeps me going, keeps me occupied. Two
34:05
PC or one PC setup? Double
34:07
PC setup, you gotta take all the load, if you can afford
34:09
it. You got, I don't care
34:11
how strong your PC is streaming, especially
34:14
at a high level 10,000 bit rate, 1080p, while
34:17
you're playing a game, and
34:20
you have chats running and memory leakage from
34:22
all these other apps, blah, blah, blah, blah,
34:24
blah. You gotta have a double PC setup
34:26
at a high level if you
34:28
can afford it and you're making really good money because
34:31
you got a game on one stream on the other, two PC setup,
34:33
100%. Ketchup or
34:36
ranch? That's a ranch. Boxes
34:38
or briefs? Briefs, one
34:41
million percent, always and forever, dude. You
34:43
gotta keep that thing locked and comforted.
34:48
Boxers, this just dangling. Don't
34:50
like it. Guacamole or salsa?
34:55
Ooh, Jess, okay, I'm gonna go with my wife's
34:57
salsa. Jess makes some incredible salsa. So
35:00
I'm gonna have to go with salsa. Wedding,
35:02
oh my God, Jesus Christ. Weddings
35:04
or funerals? Just kidding, birthdays. Neither,
35:07
dude. I
35:10
think weddings are beautiful. But I
35:12
mean, as I
35:14
get older, I like birthdays
35:16
less and less, so. Jesus.
35:21
Hot coffee or iced coffee? Iced coffee, 100%. I'll
35:23
drink an iced coffee, negative
35:26
10 degrees out in Illinois, middle of winter. Don't
35:28
care. I love my cold brews. You can't, you
35:30
hear this, guys? All
35:32
right, I don't know if you know if you can't. You can't,
35:34
I just spilled coffee on me. Trying to
35:36
get this coffee to proc the mic. Iced
35:38
coffee, always, cold coffee,
35:40
always. Kids tables or adult
35:42
tables? I feel like every
35:45
table I'm at is the kids table, no matter what,
35:47
because I'm a child at heart and I have a
35:49
goof off all the time when it comes to weddings,
35:51
kids tables or dinner, whatever the case may be. So
35:54
I guess I'll say adult tables, but
35:57
you know, kid at heart. Babies
36:00
dressed as animals or animals dressed as
36:02
humans. Babies dressed as animals,
36:04
there's nothing more adorable than a cute little baby
36:06
in a tiny little giraffe
36:08
outfit. Right? Like a
36:10
little lion for Halloween, it's adorable. Liquor
36:15
or beer? Beer?
36:18
I love a good cold beer.
36:22
I've been getting super into sours.
36:26
I'm kind of fading away from the IPAs.
36:28
I've been like, I love a good half-half-ice
36:30
and half-half-ice and love a good
36:32
half-half-ice. So I'm going to go with beer
36:35
for sure. Sort
36:37
by price or sort by rating? I
36:39
feel like I'm being targeted. I
36:41
sort by price. And
36:44
then I sort by rating. But I
36:46
sort by price and you're done. And then we're done
36:48
here. Favorite
37:01
childhood cartoon, SpongeBob SquarePants.
37:07
OG SpongeBob. You can't even, you can't.
37:09
Get away from me. OG
37:11
SpongeBob, nothing pops it. Your
37:14
favorite streaming service right now. Netflix, Hulu,
37:16
etc. I
37:18
still got to go with Netflix. I just got some bangers on there. I
37:21
love, dude, Uncanny Counter and Sweet
37:23
Home. Woo. Give
37:26
them a watch. Favorite
37:28
reality TV show? Reality
37:31
TV. What?
37:38
I don't really watch a lot of reality TV. But I
37:40
mean, would you say like, why
37:44
am I forgetting this? RuPaul's Drag Race, but that's
37:46
not really reality TV. But
37:48
it kind of is. So I love
37:50
watching that with Jess and her
37:52
friend Amanda. Favorite
37:54
impression right now? Patrick.
38:00
I love Patrick Star. I feel like I've been rocking people
38:03
like my chat goes crazy. You know, I'm gonna do the
38:05
Patrick scream And
38:11
what is your next tattoo so
38:13
I got this first ever sleeve tattoo Vaughn
38:16
from Legend of La Gaia one of the
38:18
greatest PlayStation one our JRPGs of all time
38:20
one of the most unique fighting fighting Games
38:23
like fighting combat systems of
38:25
all time. I Highly
38:27
recommend if you can torrent it. I don't care how
38:29
you get it It's very expensive right now if you
38:31
buy the game online like from
38:33
like Amazon or you know, somebody reselling
38:36
it Because obviously the game
38:38
is just so old and it's not in the PlayStation Network
38:41
Legend of the guy I got
38:43
Vaughn who's the main character tattooed on my right
38:45
arm all the way up to my elbow right
38:47
now And then I'm going to get the
38:50
other two protagonists Gala
38:53
and Noah are gonna be my next
38:55
two tattoos to complete the sleeve. So
38:58
there you have it There you have
39:00
it AFK
39:03
with ninja. Thank you guys for tuning in I
39:05
hope you have a wonderful rest of your day
39:08
and night evening whenever you're listening to this try
39:10
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39:12
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39:14
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39:24
get you soon I
40:00
We're in a period of
40:04
rapid change,
40:06
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40:09
feel like things
40:13
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40:16
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40:25
With political tensions, anxiety, and loneliness rising,
40:27
and questions about how to live the
40:29
good life on everyone's mind, finding
40:32
answers can seem harder than ever. For
40:34
millennia, spiritual thinkers have offered wisdom and tools
40:37
to help people find their way in trying
40:39
times. Advice that even a scientist
40:41
like me, Dave DeSteno, is finding have a
40:43
lot to offer. To join
40:45
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