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well this is even on the on the agenda. Now he

2:00

has operated radio. I was the same

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for the away com sermon old game

2:05

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2:07

alive as a fighting game. same a

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Subway lily every they're. Out

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looking up stuff dare you know that my

2:13

name of the damned in I think of

2:15

get his combine my name with this game

2:18

to narrow that certain our here actually I

2:20

think I've I think I played that either

2:22

way I think I think that are like

2:24

paradise summer camp as yeah paradise we a

2:27

military guys that I go go go to

2:29

over. Alexander live our

2:31

this I wasn't and simply the

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slaughterhouse. Three. Days. Ago that monthly

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the Psu on Icebox. Now

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broth after let the whole ah the

2:40

whole mean old a did arm which

2:43

obviously having to pretty quickly but like

2:45

I mean it was like silver thing

2:47

I do when I find an artist

2:49

and I like either one song I

2:52

hear a clip of a song Averse

2:54

Whatever it is like I immediately go

2:56

to their arms like on spotify collector

2:59

of her eyes. He. Other the name

3:01

whenever hours and just do a massive the by

3:03

than other spends like you know two hours and

3:05

let us know how much of a bunch of

3:07

songs I have had. These three songs I've had

3:10

Kicked Stand, Fantasize and Sweeties. Only

3:12

place I've been lit like listen to those

3:14

on her for like literally last couple months

3:16

and authors the few so. Obviously.

3:19

Into the blown up for the whole okay

3:21

per se moment. but like ear and I

3:23

got me of over million monthly listeners on

3:25

Spotify obsolete Zona did sell. Just wanna say

3:27

that, keep it up gradually since and I'll

3:30

go. To be said on Monday gone out

3:32

still right? Oh and let's let's let's get

3:34

out of the waited so we can we

3:36

can talk about other things is hurt that

3:38

throughout this the spot desolate sources that I

3:40

enjoy of so happy we get to talk

3:42

about is a direct ah to see a

3:45

new did I say that I've been I've

3:47

been waiting for this moment. I. Toll on

3:49

title The I am Isis and when we're scheduling

3:51

see that you want to eric immediately Other pro

3:53

wrestling let's wait for this to like like a

3:55

ride this out right? for long as he can.

3:57

I just I dunno you're doing your thing when

3:59

you do not. There are like teething any was

4:01

hilarious. I loved watching that just like two

4:03

minutes of the frequency I'm not saying is

4:05

is other was incredible and now the same

4:07

thing with me like august again air guy

4:09

just magnitude get sick about the means rak

4:11

their names as great as a new one

4:13

like yeah brother goes away a little bit

4:16

and then looked at him on and like

4:18

it when says all calm down successfully calm

4:20

down now was as though but you'd walk

4:22

me through broth I think like from my

4:24

perspective I know was that like of super

4:26

most know and then and unlike you know

4:28

it's ago and on that day ruff. That.

4:30

Are the I thought of That is you are

4:32

I assess. Er, yes

4:35

I borrowed. Gonna make you mad but I'm

4:37

so happy that you like flayed alive. I

4:39

budgeted like who's a kid at like time

4:41

on my fucking haircuts a. Then

4:44

I mean like are were lies

4:46

randomly that day because I figured

4:48

out how the like pads the

4:50

software that I used to make

4:52

music into my it's ah audio

4:54

preferences on of yes. Size.

4:56

Like. Are you know the man funny as

4:58

as as we live in is like freestyle from any thirty

5:00

minutes and then. At first it was

5:02

is like a joke around supposedly to st

5:04

Joseph like whatever like how than that was

5:07

and stupid said everybody was so confused. And.

5:09

Then it's not like to the point where are they

5:11

wait This is lucky kind of fun and in a

5:13

got a kind of better if you take in the

5:15

nose like some ice in and he know got to

5:18

that you know viral part of me talk about my

5:20

grandfather and whenever and than i actually was getting emotional

5:22

about like another in my brain of it. and

5:24

is like three hundred people in here know

5:26

what kind of being like it's kind of

5:28

being that i go of get over sitting

5:30

on the end and ever i know the

5:32

guise of stops and outside of protest quick

5:34

biggest have a good damages of lab mix

5:36

of us and then it was the the

5:39

viral moment right there mans out of nowhere

5:41

and would have been guess i see the.

5:44

First off it deserves power. Prostitutes Rbc

5:46

Just like entering that Ramos I'll stay

5:48

when you're talking about everything with your

5:50

grandfather and to see like your whole

5:53

your family. I think that's. Adding a

5:55

lot of people can learn from that as

5:57

well to kind of like stay anonymous Yemen

5:59

people in auto. A couple times on seem

6:01

to like those moments to be vulnerable in this moment.

6:03

So I people in your for a side arm and

6:05

his moments nazi of but like I think it's super

6:07

important to delight now to colonel your eye and said

6:09

it like you're human soon You're not This I. Am.

6:12

At yeah is in part this this

6:14

perfect on Allegra raw not rod exact

6:16

opposite like a this machine right doesn't

6:18

have celia and as it's and is

6:20

it affected my like you know that

6:22

the woes at that everyone else is

6:24

on my cell. I mean I was

6:26

super super. Mega proxy for do

6:29

and that's yeah play. A lot of other people

6:31

can realize that everyone's and like nobody's perfect brow

6:33

and if somebody seems perfect online is because the

6:35

that they're just doing a better job than others.

6:37

like hiding it. you know, High enough. Awesome. Yeah

6:39

I mean but only. As due

6:42

to the moment it's like this is a

6:44

nexus of the next cycle-description Sued says the

6:46

internet went wild are that moment he anticipated

6:48

the blob. like that sprout. I mean I

6:50

know the I know you didn't. And

6:53

i never thought cannot do nurse

6:55

so we were so out them

6:57

to organizers. Your you can

7:00

sort of the hockey on about the

7:02

either assess of yeah no bro we

7:04

were freezing out that day because I

7:06

remember like my my manager and my

7:08

data the manager called me in their

7:10

eyes. Hey man, I'm. So.

7:13

I've. Posted the Tic Tac Hundred

7:15

to Eclipse and known. As

7:17

I ten K lives and our know like

7:19

as it's that's been going pretty since I'm

7:21

doing pretty well in the past like thirty

7:23

min they are in the process that I

7:25

sue hours later and as said has two

7:27

hundred fifty thousand like they were like I

7:29

have now but environmental damage it only two

7:31

million views alleys through no nos First day

7:34

we did a mill hours i oh god

7:36

is not going no no no no is

7:38

it was really hilarious is as I I

7:40

love this is kind of awesome I went

7:42

viral for that. the reason that I wanted

7:44

to go viral is being funny and second.

7:46

Verse S and you can never predict

7:48

that. I guess he didn't never ever

7:50

for to me like there's not seasonally

7:52

you could do something that will like.

7:54

You could go out of your way

7:57

and do something on the internet that

7:59

you know will. That you like you know

8:01

will pop off because it's like controversial or

8:03

something like directors there's easy way to make

8:05

it. Intimated: Mainstream and

8:07

in there's easy way said. You know,

8:09

go viral for the wrong reasons. Spotlight

8:11

to create. Generally a me of

8:13

a meme right like to create a meme

8:16

is is it is. Honestly most of those

8:18

random ah images raises get completely happens in

8:20

internet is what they picked it up to

8:22

get by storm and it was hilarious to

8:25

like honor of you know for me bro

8:27

it was so I mean I made

8:29

I made my mistake by the way of

8:31

like back the day when t pilots can

8:34

say I died of like months or I

8:36

had led months like I didn't lean into

8:38

the memos like some reason it like he

8:40

was pissing me off of your comment. About

8:43

an hour job word months now my

8:45

I was pissed me off to where

8:47

I. Live my eyebrow

8:49

like sentences and I'll and and people who just

8:51

like ten fucking roasting Even more because I like

8:53

was in except the and I remember along with

8:55

it. Saw. The second I see

8:58

below my sat on my glob six am

9:00

am for me it's the night after of

9:02

the club and south. Armagh. The

9:04

morning after other and like a broad I

9:06

like looking to buy. this is mainly tix.

9:08

I've sat first the kicks off like book

9:11

and movie prefer smart motive to pay for

9:13

smart as I'm I'm Mike Brown I'm listening

9:15

to see more than one person like commenting

9:17

and leaving like a message about like of

9:20

a similarity right? especially on through it all

9:22

it on my than what's happening about slice

9:24

immediately oh my god we're like that's where

9:26

the something going on that I missed it

9:28

You are have league my damn fool literally

9:31

browser biblical to point out like it's please

9:33

note. And then. I give

9:35

me the i'm just like a what the hell is

9:37

in and then was it with Sat and it was

9:39

my youtube channel. My guy some it's like I'm happening

9:41

Brazile eggs, Google or Yahoo Google and segment or whatever

9:44

said seated clip. And immediately it

9:46

was. It was without hesitation. I was like.

9:48

I'm fucking leaning in a separate. So.

9:52

Fucking hilarious to the year of and your

9:54

wife of the first person. The comment on

9:56

the on the video. And that

9:58

the video of her walking in the. Yeah,

10:00

had all of a spot. so

10:02

my entire row. We

10:04

know Cassidy and it's my games So said

10:06

Africa that whole that whole refers to as

10:08

he right like bird bird the power now

10:10

and and is the whole lives our yeah

10:13

I plan on a probably to the middle

10:15

of the most beautiful thing I've ever found

10:17

Him I lived there was a free to

10:19

have to pay for it was like some

10:21

reason i'm apple is a sample of a

10:23

spice that I saw an article he it's

10:25

a beautiful views and years eyeglasses rocketed so

10:27

as it had I cute it up and

10:29

is repeated it for two hours. The every

10:31

one of it's household said you'd see everywhere

10:33

like. Prob say so they minutes do.

10:36

Ah ah man so how long did

10:38

you end up going for and I

10:40

am not session when you are aiming

10:43

for thirty and I I went for

10:45

two hours on for to I'm just

10:47

I'm sorry for two hours to our

10:50

savior. Dwp

10:52

that we're supply as they say go in

10:55

there are ones that are that stream for

10:57

that. I peeked at I think like million

10:59

four hundred people It wasn't It wasn't anything

11:01

crazy. Those with those wasn't even more insane.

11:04

Maddow. I do understand that of. Them

11:06

is it like do it when you're smart. Humor

11:09

is is more difficult. It took a while for

11:11

certain things because you only have like the odds

11:13

of someone clippings and thing is last because you

11:15

have less years the odds of like you know

11:17

so desperately them knowing like. Hitting a

11:19

viral moment to and and making a bath that's

11:21

was crazy and so that they make says mom

11:23

and even more like even more if I can

11:26

help. So idea I have. You had

11:28

any elderly spontaneous omen so you're swimming like a our

11:30

house and you do this when you when you go

11:32

lives. For. Such as

11:34

much as I get was that are some who does

11:36

the first thing I ever did as into the

11:38

last some I'm gonna do it until I know a

11:40

couple use a couple years go by and then

11:42

I was randomly do it in out of nowhere and

11:45

everybody's like. You know I

11:47

think of him as like something you don't really

11:49

force. I feel like it was that as she

11:51

was great because I had like years as stuff

11:53

bottled up that I've never talked about my entire

11:55

life. Come. Out. Through.

11:57

Through music and through like three mean talking.

12:00

That like. Pop. Culture stuff and

12:02

thing that bothered me and. Funny.

12:04

You say? and all kinds of stuff. like I feel

12:06

like I need to experience life. Out. Of

12:08

that more. And. Man may be like

12:10

three years and the teacher for years five

12:12

years and when they'll see a random or

12:14

or in have seen pop up in ah

12:17

the stay there at the My Canal. Overall

12:19

it's gonna be iconic that is concerned. I

12:21

guess I didn't do see just thinking about

12:23

a Man I officer so I got i'm

12:26

Alice an Anti Science is as nice bison

12:28

soda as the city. Do you find that

12:30

him improvising during his frames does it help?

12:32

So I guess during that stream stare how

12:34

smart they create art creativity for on any

12:37

teacher songs like a music making process like

12:39

definitely. Definitely I feel like is a

12:41

deathly spawn dislike learning my vocal ability.

12:43

I think like I lived in there

12:45

I'd I was expecting a fuck up.

12:48

A bunch of times are ahead and

12:50

I'd say this but I I saw

12:52

some. Quits: Alabama, Alabama. Was

12:56

it was so touching? You sounded so gray. And

12:58

now his life. When. I was listening

13:00

to it like obviously but the meme a

13:02

part of it was gray and but like

13:05

I was a T v such and such

13:07

you focus on amazing race as long as

13:09

I immediately saw an officer and unassuming for

13:11

i call and exude did you see like

13:13

a massive spike in in in a how

13:16

how is how often is it off on

13:18

his eyebrows slay hitting a viral clip and

13:20

it's like or something so viral and in

13:22

seeing effect on your toes Me I'm like

13:24

all you like new music the how and

13:26

all the how much of a rush was

13:29

that moments like undergoing. Some a later you're just

13:31

like. Oh the.

13:33

Oh so I both desi my mirror every morning.

13:35

This is. That

13:37

like I see like. I.

13:39

Don't know x I'm. So.

13:42

In within the stream I was talking about how

13:44

I hate that everything has to be content known

13:46

as an artist like when you make music you

13:48

have to worry by the real than sick talking

13:50

you to stores and it's so funny this on

13:52

talking all as said about In and in the

13:54

Middle of it won't be know it was the

13:56

gums virus but. Yeah

13:58

man, I was so high. The Syrian Korea has like

14:01

I gained some so many new father isn't something to

14:03

be will listen to the music and. I.

14:05

Was I was a wild week for my engagement.

14:07

But you know, like. I. Think I'm.

14:10

I. Think it's I think it's really cool and I honestly

14:12

I don't have like a weird. Thing.

14:15

As like a lot of people get upset when

14:17

they have our moments like that in the know

14:19

it when I got and will be known as

14:21

the lot cheaper fade guy for the reds my

14:23

life I like a people will know he for

14:25

that back think that's kind of awesome I gonna

14:27

i owed they get like of the you know

14:29

me for a moment that was made you laugh

14:31

at one point but now you hate is kind

14:33

of cool from I can I can I as

14:36

someone who doesn't do I lived through all that

14:38

sense I saw fight our own Ivens I started

14:40

swimming is a for as as a halo that

14:42

I would be the best person to talk to

14:44

about you is. Literally every every every part of

14:46

my career people like put me in a

14:48

box. I don't I honestly don't know how

14:50

them eg. many other people that wanted are

14:52

a couple sermons like and but a their

14:54

versus like that like a dude I had

14:56

a halo section for like three four years

14:59

of my sharing her than a frenzy one

15:01

for like three four years than pubs eve,

15:03

her email couple years and then fortnight rights

15:05

and like he's time I was in a

15:07

sad eyed and it just in general when

15:09

I when our medieval t like the guy

15:11

was the halo can't right now was it

15:13

a mob a twenty one kid. I would

15:15

sorts of said pudgy browse Dictating the one

15:17

Malik, this is your games. Then I entered

15:19

a building. a huge airship in poverty than

15:21

I was budgeted. Source of ornate bro your

15:23

budget? go back to police, lights them for

15:26

naked and now obviously like that on a

15:28

real go up. So. I run

15:30

on. The majority of you will know me

15:32

for foreigner spiky Adam Carolla people sound like

15:34

a foreigner am I for I made me

15:36

all the is like a bit right like

15:38

cool I knew that I was a great

15:40

swimmer and I was already doing well in

15:42

my own rights before all the stars like

15:44

before for night so like for people to

15:46

enough I don't give a shit if people

15:48

think I'm a foreign. I did enough for

15:50

naming names like of it's existence you know

15:52

in a way it did but anyway and

15:54

also didn't sell as that you're you're looking

15:56

at it perfectly. Eric like. It.

15:59

Does I'm doing. They make it into the

16:01

final form. Yeah! Little he killed it

16:03

like I like out what else are watching with I'm

16:05

sorry but I think he just like it did Rothesay

16:07

us are more you doing I like your life forms

16:10

as when you pop off and like you're playing into

16:12

a just the north and like this he just finished

16:14

or two or so now I see you all like

16:16

your your music is it is that that one more

16:18

minute one put this into finance and obviously like I

16:21

said he thought it sparked me to go missing Tiger

16:23

other music which which I found out that I love

16:25

so than like the now there's a guy a out

16:27

the you're really real fans and others are going to

16:29

do the same and not latest you know But you

16:32

know little. Box sell your just the Bride

16:34

with as and and obviously you're young you

16:36

next album or or similar whenever it's gonna

16:38

be I magnus also going to be freaking

16:40

equally dopants. Yeah, you just keep moving on

16:42

from there bro. Or. Some reason I

16:44

feel like that's a good reasons guess like now

16:46

you like. I. Mean if I could

16:48

ask you person's the i can know yeah

16:51

yeah effect as a great chris ask you

16:53

because I feel like you're you've of all

16:55

blacks and whites over from like you know

16:57

your years as being, you know a streamer

16:59

and like being in a in an industry

17:02

like gaming like I mean. What? Do

17:04

you feel is like gonna be your next as

17:06

is is something they when above into like podcast

17:08

like I love the fact that you're like of

17:11

displaying the the ninja personality now more than just

17:13

like been on stream of playing video games like

17:15

actually talking with of your passion about like sport

17:17

reactors or have had a snare so we're doing

17:20

I mean I like branching out the so for

17:22

me I found out for me and I would

17:24

skip as fast as to is a branch out

17:26

a little bit and then says piper focus on

17:29

that because when i get spread too thin a

17:31

sign that I lose interest in you know and.

17:35

I do truly truly like I just as

17:37

interesting one of the things like right now

17:39

I got involved in like three weeks and

17:41

I love golf to like spotlight and I

17:43

was focusing on like my podcast dolls I'm

17:45

obviously like I'm gonna be honest like startup

17:47

company and like just i don't want to

17:49

sit going on right now how he does

17:51

you Comedy's sake you do they go but

17:53

most I've had to go through a tunnel.

17:57

so a i did it it's it's like

18:00

Yeah, so hyper focus on one or two

18:02

things branch out and you know you more

18:05

often than not you'll find success. So I

18:07

appreciate that you know you're you support this

18:09

man. I love having it like having a

18:11

good guest like you is it's super

18:14

helpful and we have you know I think

18:16

honestly I've been super lucky to have an

18:18

incredible team on the podcast side and on

18:20

my end reaching out to just talented and

18:22

interesting people. So dude having an

18:24

hour taking an hour out of my day to record something

18:26

like this with you know awesome

18:28

people is like it's really amazing. I

18:31

was definitely fine bro. It's just like looking back

18:33

at everything and seeing how you evolved so lit

18:35

because I remember when I was like literally in

18:37

the eighth grade and I was

18:39

like I was on YouTube and

18:42

I saw this clip of you fucking dunking on

18:44

this kid in H1Z1 and screaming back

18:46

at him because they used to have the

18:48

proximity chat. I was. Hell

18:50

yeah bro. You talk about that the fuck you say to

18:53

me little shit moment? Yes yes. Fuck you say to me

18:55

little shit. Oh my

18:57

god dude. Dude

19:01

do people to this day still don't

19:03

know what sparked that because the viral

19:05

part of that clip people cut out.

19:08

It's just that audio. It's just that audio. But

19:10

the kid called me a maggot but with the

19:12

F word. Yeah dude. And I was

19:15

like and that's what and then I was like dude

19:17

I'm gonna make an example of this little kid by

19:19

like by swearing at him. Oh

19:21

hell yeah bro. You know and

19:23

then dude but then like he fucking got me and I was like

19:25

wow it was like it's cold why aren't you in school. And

19:28

he's like it's president's day and I was

19:30

just like fuck. Had

19:33

a fucking day off dude little rat just got me

19:35

like that. I don't know bro

19:38

yeah you you you've interacted with some creatures

19:40

man. They're on there bro. And you know

19:42

what's crazy too they're only getting worse dude.

19:44

Yeah. All the iPad

19:46

all the iPad kids are growing up dude. You

19:48

could have been one of them. Thank you so

19:50

much for saying this. This is a great podcast.

19:54

Come I'm still dude let's talk about iPad kids bro. I

19:56

really could have. I was I was looking at you. It

19:58

was on the touch. You're not

20:00

where they could have been thrown to iPhones and

20:02

phones in your face like you know Mm-hmm, and

20:05

maybe they gave you but look at you brother

20:07

still down. That's what I'm saying, bro That's what I

20:09

did when I was a kid me and my brother

20:11

is hanging rocks together, dude Yes, sir. Do you kick a

20:13

rock? I literally bro. I literally kicked rocks. I did

20:15

people tell you to go kick rocks I've done it. You

20:18

know I mean I remember literally being so bored so bored

20:21

with my buddies You know we just finished

20:23

playing cops and robbers capture the flag for like five

20:25

hours We have no idea no idea what else to

20:27

do and we're just like walking around talking about shit

20:29

Just like literally kicking a rock down the street So

20:32

you you gotta miss the time of just child

20:34

like wonder and being able to play for six

20:36

hours and just not even Not even

20:38

thinking about time going by do time

20:41

first off time So

20:43

I like you like how old are you

20:45

18 17 16 20? I knew it bro. I was just talking to you I

20:53

Wasn't I didn't know your age now I do so as

20:56

you get older and you're that you're there you're it's

20:58

already happening, right? Do time just it

21:00

does it moves it moves quicker, right? And I think what

21:02

the reason that is scary, bro It's

21:04

actually scary bro It's

21:07

dude you have to just first off you have to just

21:09

like live in the moment number one try to do possibly

21:11

again But dude just like accepting that it's just gonna keep

21:13

going by quicker and quicker It just is like

21:16

as you get older you just you understand

21:19

Time more if that makes sense

21:21

and like so do you like I don't remember bro, but like you remember

21:24

when you were a kid and you

21:26

literally Were bored first

21:28

off bored and time just felt like

21:30

it was crawling Crawling like it's

21:32

three o'clock. You feel like you just you know, two

21:35

hours went by you look at the clock. It's like

21:37

315 Like

21:39

that doesn't happen anymore, bro That

21:42

doesn't have any more time flies the minutes are

21:44

like seconds it's not no, it's

21:46

actually This scary thing

21:48

of all time, but you're 21. I'm 32. It is only gonna get

21:50

worse I hate to break

21:52

hate to break it to you. So Strap

21:55

a strap in a strap on bro. Oh Time

21:59

to pick up both It

22:01

is, it is bro, golf is lit and you want to

22:03

get started as soon as possible. It is so much fun.

22:06

Yeah, it is. It is. Oof, oof. Oof,

22:09

oof. You

22:33

just finished touring. You obviously

22:35

had viral hit, low taper fade

22:38

moment, bro, what's next for you?

22:42

What's next for artists in general, do

22:44

you think, after they tour? Do

22:47

you follow what other artists do

22:49

in terms of a creative process?

22:55

Talk to me, bro. Yeah, great question, man. Thank

22:57

you for asking. It's, honestly, I

22:59

feel like a lot of people think way

23:01

too much. I feel like it's

23:03

a situation where a lot of people like to play

23:06

by a formula or by a rule or by a

23:08

set schedule. It's like, okay, I'm going on tour, I

23:10

made my projects, as soon as I get back home,

23:12

I'm going to give myself a week and then we

23:14

go back into doing sessions and making music and planning

23:17

out an entire album and getting an aesthetic and

23:19

a roll out and whatever. But mine

23:21

is just like, I just got

23:23

home, I'm about to order this empanada,

23:26

I'm about to play some no-build for

23:28

six hours and then whatever happens in

23:30

the next couple of weeks, and

23:33

shit, man. That's what it is. I

23:35

feel like they even can't be bothered, bro.

23:37

Dude, exactly, bro. I'm so upset because while

23:39

I was on tour, I couldn't get fucking

23:41

Peter Griffin and all those goddamn holidays and

23:44

Wi-Fi's. I was so sad, bro. I

23:46

couldn't get them. I couldn't do the...

23:48

I still don't understand how Wi-Fi

23:51

hasn't stepped up its game in these random

23:53

hotels, bro. They

23:55

need to get it, right? Or add little PC cafes. Oh,

23:57

that's actually genius. Oh, that's actually genius.

24:00

You're absolutely right like legitimate PC can't phase on

24:02

that bullshit. You know I'm saying like none of

24:04

that like $10

24:06

keyboard, you know oh hell no I

24:08

need that fiber Internet Yeah

24:17

Hey, the good news is that this new

24:19

season and this new battle pass is freaking

24:21

Liddy so Let

24:24

me do you I just enjoy your time off and enjoy that After

24:27

this round just in general man. Come on, bro.

24:29

So do worry you about by the way, are

24:31

you in LA or yeah? Yeah,

24:33

I live in LA actually it's expensive man.

24:35

Are you like little people? I

24:41

live with two other roommates. Yeah, it is it

24:43

is really expensive. Are you living you have a Florida

24:45

right? Yeah, so my wife and I

24:47

with two homes one in Illinois one in Florida and we've been Our

24:50

main home you're originally from Illinois Yeah, dude born

24:52

in Michigan and then like move to Illinois when

24:54

I was a Cold

24:57

cold, then you're used to it, dude

25:00

Bro, dude, we we fucked up and did

25:02

the opposite of snowboarding last year which snowboard

25:04

So it's warm. We went back We went

25:07

back to Illinois last year for winter and

25:09

it was like minus 15 minus 20 for

25:11

like you know a month straight It

25:13

was a bismol. It was awful. I don't know what

25:16

we're doing. No, dude Detroit on the tour

25:18

for a stop. I Yeah,

25:20

I couldn't handle that that was bad. No,

25:23

it's really no And

25:25

I you know, what's funny do I guarantee we were probably in Detroit

25:27

roughly around the same time I think like like

25:29

possibly I went there for a couple of the playoff

25:31

games and then oh, yeah It was it was freezing

25:33

when I went there. So I can only imagine that

25:35

was probably when you were there, too So bad how

25:37

was it for when you went to see that that

25:40

line of that line game when you were lying? He

25:42

was lit. Yeah, it was awesome,

25:44

bro We

25:46

had our NFL moment together. How was the sound

25:48

you did the video? That

25:54

would yeah, bro that you know, what else is

25:56

crazy to me dude is that that shit bro

26:00

I don't actually think we fully fucking talked

26:02

about how viral this shit went

26:04

Dude, they're like the Cleveland Cavaliers the Orlando

26:06

Magic there were the Brooklyn Nets there were

26:08

teams not the Mets who actually Is now

26:10

that's my favorite basketball team like of all

26:12

time, bro. I was like, oh my god

26:15

Come on, bro Like can we

26:17

let's talk about it how like why the hell

26:19

were these teams like getting on board with his

26:21

tread? Rose is so strange to me. I really

26:23

didn't understand even after the fact. I was like,

26:25

I don't know what the fuck's happening I would

26:27

wake up swipe my phone and there'd be another

26:29

like another just another video people like I couldn't

26:31

escape it the first Week that it was going

26:34

crazy because I've ever on my phone text

26:36

calls Tiktok's I'd be everything

26:38

you too sure it's that's new But

26:41

I think it's like you can't get now because

26:44

it's like now it's being considered It's

26:46

now been thrown in like the the

26:48

TikTok rizz like category like now it's

26:50

brain rot which is so Happy

26:53

row, it's what I know. It's so awesome I

26:55

think it's hilarious that he just got turned into

26:57

like this thing where I love

27:00

like the confirmation bias thing on the internet we're

27:02

like People people will think

27:04

something is funny and then you have this whole

27:06

like 50% cut of the anti of

27:08

people who are just like This was

27:10

never funny in the first place like that Turns

27:14

into this whole thing. It's just like damn

27:16

man. You can't let people enjoy shit For

27:19

some reason and you know, it's hard to dude

27:21

Like I kind of find it sometimes to you

27:24

like I don't respond to shit anymore on Twitter

27:26

Like like almost ever because all I think about

27:28

is after I reply to somebody's thing Like

27:30

if it's like, you know an opinion or whatever I'm

27:33

just ready like immediately in my head because I've been

27:35

doing this shit for so fucking long in my head

27:37

All I think of is what everyone's gonna say like

27:39

about the opposite of what I just said and

27:41

then I just delete my post like yeah Like

27:46

someone's Like Bro, I really think that peanut butter on

27:48

peanut butter on peanut butter jelly sandwiches Like People are

27:50

a little overrated if I responded I was like, yeah,

27:52

bro I could kind of feel that too But like

27:54

you gotta, you gotta rock with the peanut butter and

27:56

then I if I replied to that I'm ready for

27:59

like 30 billion. The reply to believe should

28:01

I go to grow American. Officer

28:03

of course not licensed by the see. I

28:05

knew I knew I knew a to the

28:07

Way brothers that so soft. And

28:10

I believe that my sit may be good

28:12

versus versus with the internet. His eyes and

28:14

his son are down your way. Too many

28:16

people sharing their opinions. Dude I don't want

28:18

a buggy. That's why I don't want that

28:21

has a better than awful blaze. I've been

28:23

so much I will not now.earth interact or

28:25

even with anything on there it is all

28:27

around the as a means to an appealing

28:29

for most people nowadays. Light is is.

28:31

You know it. It's. A point

28:34

across. A few where a

28:36

person in a that if you woke up

28:38

and you like looked at your phone and

28:40

you are like you know I I wanted

28:42

to When I wake up I want to

28:44

ruin my day immediately. I've been the only

28:46

thing uses as. I

28:49

mentioned for all eternity a male dodgers into states

28:51

as. Images read em

28:53

is your their media is visit as

28:55

a Roth Ira good idea to talk

28:58

to with filters on brow or them

29:00

are no longer node and of my

29:02

turn off my mother's eyes sunk an

29:04

awesome Things. It's just like really get your

29:06

like. Opinion on insulates hear how

29:08

you've dealt with like having this millions of

29:10

people being able to perceive you all the

29:13

time. Twenty Four Seven Like as it has

29:15

it been as a dinner, a bad or

29:17

mentally has it been like crazy in the

29:19

time being that you've been a streamer and

29:22

been in the entertainment industry like. Is

29:24

it time He makes him so hard to flit

29:26

for? You even decide. Talk about it's. exactly like

29:28

everybody much all of them look a ninja. been

29:30

on. grateful for that of. Has

29:33

his eyes. Are

29:35

now my superior. Your your your

29:37

take on that. yeah brought

29:39

so first off i present to man

29:42

and also like yeah quick question like

29:44

i hear ya see right there's no

29:46

fucking weighing on this like additional winning

29:48

anymore and like no matter who you

29:51

are like almost everyone somehow get cancelled

29:53

and someone or tries to first things

29:55

that are like completely irrelevant and that

29:57

odyssey sometimes aside by like for me

29:59

know that it's tough. Like

30:02

so many people say, like I've been in so

30:04

much drama, dude, like over my entire career, especially

30:06

obviously since when I blew up, like that I

30:08

wasn't even like, I didn't even do anything. Like

30:11

I got dragged into it, like completely dragged into

30:13

something that had nothing to do with me in

30:15

the first place. And then my

30:17

character is like attacked and questioned by people that

30:19

don't know me. And including like

30:21

the person that's like starting the

30:24

drama too. And it's just like, and

30:26

like you can't do anything. Like you can't,

30:28

if I interact and I try to like

30:30

prove myself, right, everyone's like, you know, it's

30:32

the same thing. You get 50% of people like

30:35

who are gonna sit there and

30:37

be like, you know, yeah, okay, I see a

30:40

side. And then you're gonna get the other 50% of people who

30:42

are gonna be like, fuck you, I don't care. And

30:45

then there's the other 50%, so we're talking about

30:47

150% of people that will never even see

30:49

your side of the story. Like dude, the

30:51

biggest, I think the worst thing that pisses me

30:53

off the most is like when

30:55

somebody like BMs you and

30:58

fucking like drags your name through the dirt,

31:00

like that comment or those

31:02

clips or like those things get,

31:05

like will be seen by like 100% more of the

31:07

people, like

31:10

200% more of the people that will

31:13

see your name be cleared, right?

31:15

So like literally, so like if

31:17

somebody starts a rumor about me that I

31:19

like kick babies, right? Like, and it goes viral,

31:22

that like, you know, two million, three million,

31:24

four million, five million, a hundred million people

31:27

will see that clip. And then if

31:30

people like, oh no, it was

31:32

a joke, like dude, a million too, like half of the

31:34

people who will like, will see you be like justified, right?

31:37

Or like not justified, but you know what I mean? I

31:39

don't know what the word I'm looking for is. I

31:42

feel like your algorithm is gonna push

31:45

drama harder than redemption,

31:47

I guess. 100%,

31:49

because people love that shit. So like that's, to

31:51

me, like getting people to like me, especially

31:54

in my space is something that I've had to

31:56

like really rely and lean on like my wife

31:58

for, like because. It's one it is

32:00

one of my biggest type peeves. It's not that I'm just a people pleaser,

32:02

which I am But like it's

32:05

not that I care what people think about me I but I

32:07

but I do where I think everyone does and I think it's

32:09

one of the most difficult things on the planet is To

32:12

get people especially with what you do man. Like

32:14

you have to that's like what you're like my

32:16

job Welcome revolves

32:18

around Like

32:21

me like enjoy my shit so

32:24

like a lot easier said than done when

32:26

people try to Therapize like People

32:29

who work and you know entertainment should be like

32:31

oh man, like you can't worry about You

32:34

know people perceiving you or the or the

32:36

you know their perception that they have on

32:38

you and your characters It's like that's what

32:41

the fucking job is the whole job is especially if

32:43

you're in that space So if you're a singer you're

32:45

an influencer whatsoever like your job is ample

32:47

and people You're putting people

32:49

on display your reputation needs to be protected at some

32:51

point So like I do that so I tell you

32:53

and I still struggle to this day I'm like defending

32:56

myself and responding to certain things because it's like one

32:58

it might cause more drama and to you It's like

33:00

is even worth it and like Yeah,

33:03

that's the other thing about that shit that

33:05

I that that boggles my mind Is that you

33:07

know, these will be such like, you know

33:09

topics of conversation and so heavily regarded by

33:11

by I guess the general population And the masses

33:13

and then a week later no one's

33:16

no one cares and like no one's talking about

33:18

it Which is just like so it's so internet-esque

33:20

to me, bro. I've always it's always the worst

33:22

using to me Yeah, it's the word it's even

33:24

worse now that it's turned like dude the drama

33:26

and shit unless it's really really crazy It just

33:28

turns over faster, bro All right, like the good

33:30

and the bad right so if you do something

33:32

great Like dude, you're in the news for like

33:34

a day or two. Everyone loves you and then

33:36

like you could be you know the public

33:39

enemy number one like a week later And

33:41

same thing with same thing with bad shit, right? Like like

33:43

you want sometimes you want chances to redeem yourself and a

33:45

lot of people and to like get the actual truth out But

33:47

like if you know, like some people

33:49

just might not even fucking care week later Right,

33:52

like well and that's what that's the kind of shit I'm talking

33:54

about Right, like you get your name dragged through mud a week

33:56

later. You're trying to prove you're trying to be like, oh, no

33:58

guys This is the real story But like no one

34:01

even cares anymore at that point so like damage

34:03

has been done doesn't matter and now no one

34:05

cares about Like you know the truth. It's too.

34:07

It's it's a double-edged sword. It sucks ass And

34:10

I guess at the end of the day dude like you just

34:13

have to love and and you know Worry

34:15

about the people who are there with you throw that

34:17

shit, right? Which is what so

34:19

awesome that you have just as a rock dude.

34:21

That's like so weird I would be six feet

34:23

under probably in a ditch like heroin needle in

34:25

my arm Who knows right like

34:27

loot you to believe it like it any possibility You

34:33

do not know you do not know I know for

34:35

a fact. I don't know what uh What

34:38

where I where I be if I didn't have? Jesured

34:40

through all this from start to

34:42

finish out shout out the guy to the girl

34:44

do you already know fucking lover to death? All

34:49

right, dude, let's kind of wrap let not wrap this up

34:51

Let's let's wrap this around or gonna touch around a little

34:53

bit more about you man come on now um When

34:57

you're not making music or streaming dude, what do you do?

34:59

What do you know free? What are you doing your free

35:01

time bro? See that is a great question again I've

35:04

been like trying to like expand my thing more because I

35:06

don't know about you and you were like like getting

35:08

older and you Were like going more into like your your

35:10

adult years and realizing that you don't have that

35:12

many hobbies besides playing I realized

35:14

that I don't have any obvious as I'm playing video

35:17

game. That's the only hobby you need first off So

35:21

I was like damn bro like I

35:23

need to be a fucking adult Like I

35:25

mean it's outside and go experience things though That's been

35:27

like my my thing right now like I think I

35:29

want to like you know start like traveling and going

35:31

to do You know more things. I think it's more

35:33

like pulling the trigger on stuff so right now I've just been like I've

35:35

been reading a lot I've been you know like

35:37

drawing and shit and there's like going for walks

35:40

man It's like just enjoying like being

35:42

alive and like experiencing life Fuck

35:45

yeah, bro And I

35:47

want to double down real quick on the whole you

35:49

don't you only need Gaming is

35:51

a hobby Because it might this

35:53

it might be that's true, but dude. I

35:55

love that. I love that I think it took me a while to

35:57

kind of break out of my shell instead of doing things other than

36:00

And again, I mean that's goes

36:03

out to the Jess for you know, dude like before I

36:05

like when we were dating do you like I was Dude

36:09

I literally would only eat like like pizza

36:11

rolls in like 2% milk. Oh my god.

36:13

Yes, bro So my friends just me on

36:15

dude my friend Now

36:19

I have a bra now I have like

36:21

pickles lettuce mustard, you know tomatoes all that

36:23

shit like a burger I eat yes, bro.

36:25

Yeah, right. You're so I'll be where you

36:27

a little yachty like only people that's

36:30

kind of not I brought you like

36:32

you feel like skittles my candy That

36:35

is can't be good for his GI. Hope

36:37

no, dude. No, I don't ever I'll be

36:39

shitting like once every three days I don't

36:41

even know But

36:44

like yeah, I hope he don't don't

36:46

don't don't do that. Yeah,

36:48

definitely not All

36:51

right, dude, I think I think I've

36:53

definitely just been trying to like Find

36:56

more hobbies I think and just like be able to like

36:58

I think life experience is the best thing when you're making

37:00

art So just like, you know go out and

37:02

just experience especially with just being like so I

37:04

was very like chronically online I guess I get

37:06

it I know it's a buzzword but like I

37:08

was so on the internet as a child and

37:10

didn't really uh, you know Go out and

37:13

get to experience like the cool like I guess like stereotypical

37:16

like teenage life of like, you know playing

37:19

pickleball with the homies or like Like

37:21

going to parties or doing anything like that are

37:23

literally going to college like I had none of those

37:26

like I guess You know

37:28

age-defining experiences I saw as I have them, you know

37:31

all in the span of like a couple years when

37:33

I was 18 19 just like out in You're

37:39

still perfect age by the way to do all

37:41

those things man Like you can definitely I feel

37:43

like touring is very much college-esque life or like,

37:45

you know after the show you have some drinks

37:47

You're hanging around about like the value. Oh shit.

37:49

You're 21. I can go to the club like

37:52

Yeah, but those you're gonna get those

37:54

to just trust because you're not in college doesn't mean you're

37:57

not gonna get those experiences So just obviously You

37:59

Know. Don't worry about that. I got lucky you

38:01

were when I turn twenty one. Twenty two I

38:03

wanted. I went like started in. Susan Susan a

38:06

party college. So. I actually to

38:08

get my party and out Wells's rags you out

38:10

as our they did I ever are. I was

38:12

not that I did like snow is a major

38:14

hyper party would have been made are all you're

38:17

still fucking crazy when I get laid eyes and

38:19

say what is it but I would not I

38:21

was nuts man I was nuts the I'll never

38:23

forget brawl never get did we were So we

38:25

just are dating and like a matter of this

38:28

girl and were at a bar and or I

38:30

want to club second base make about like a

38:32

basin club and I'm like Warhammer to his home.

38:34

Sick to talk through, caught in the morning and

38:36

she's acting. Against himself as a clock yeah so

38:39

I when he wants a bar on I

38:41

two shots and as I promise one girl

38:43

come at me like a who and like

38:45

appendages a bit suggests and Cnc like and

38:47

see like is one of those shots for

38:49

me and I literally like after I pay

38:51

like Toronto South man a like know and

38:53

I just like ago. Existence.

38:56

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38:59

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39:01

and Miriam Hammer Brow All my

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God Ra those colleges are those

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39:07

awesome. And some of them

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39:13

ever tell the stories of God

39:16

of her when they got a

39:18

diplomatic over to I mean browse

39:20

in the out. My

39:23

my earliest like crazy for answers like and a you. It's

39:25

funny, I'm thirty years old. I almost don't even remember this

39:27

like I was given me like it's like a major part

39:29

of my life that A do. night

39:32

i'll be one without anyone is like the back

39:34

of a man like last eighteen or am i

39:36

once you are a pc and appeal and easy

39:38

l tournament is ill hill tournaments or we'll you're

39:41

going on in league yeah bro as a like

39:43

this when the suicides it was like the first

39:45

place like a grand i lost my going through

39:47

a because that a flyer europe and services and

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will like it was a super cool experience i

39:52

got to like live with these to allocate the

39:54

live with these guys like a week span like

39:56

that are never we we won the tournament of

39:58

accessories on a tournament Turn them out on

40:00

Sunday. I stayed until Friday Right

40:02

so that so so like it's the next

40:04

week. So like for five days. We were

40:06

standing this like rich kids house Just

40:10

like getting lit literally every day like we

40:12

were talking like we go out It's

40:15

my first time drinking tea by the way 18 legal in London

40:21

right and we would just get hammered

40:23

bro like 99 pence Jager

40:25

bombs Which is like a dollar a little dollar Jager

40:27

bombs in the club Until

40:29

like five six in the morning bra. I know did

40:32

We did it like five days straight and we pass out we would

40:35

get a shitload of food We pass out we wake up at like

40:37

two three o'clock in the afternoon and just do it all over again

40:39

And like start pregame and just going out. It was nuts so

40:42

like that was like a you know, I You

40:46

can't even I feel so bad because you can't like

40:48

Especially you could you like you have like a situation

40:51

where like some of your stuff is like like you

40:53

have like a different audience of people especially that younger

40:55

people talk about like the cool times that you've had

40:59

I know that five-year-olds are listening to this right? So like but

41:01

I'm not I'm not too worried There's a time in a place

41:03

through it to you know talk about these I got up the

41:05

one five-year-old this Three-year-old

41:09

roads gonna remember this story ten years from now when he's

41:11

13 and Like

41:15

fucking excuse me, all right,

41:17

dude, I do I'm just actually flying by we're talking

41:19

about so much stuff other than what I have in front

41:22

of me row let's kind of Love

41:27

it. I know dude. I love this at the end of the day,

41:29

bro This is what it's all about right if we talk about nothing

41:31

that that's on the sheet It doesn't matter but I do want to

41:33

get a little bit more of your music Just

41:36

real quick come on question the music stuff before

41:38

we hop into the end of the shit Dude,

41:40

so you talk to your own your long-term aspirations

41:42

in the music industry and like how

41:45

do you see your music evolving over time? Like

41:48

because I love the style of music you

41:50

have right now And I already almost feel like

41:52

it's one of these things where it's it's a

41:54

lot It's a lot of styles kind of like,

41:57

you know mix and match it So I almost just feel like you don't have

41:59

to change too much too quickly. So I don't know,

42:01

just talk and grow. Yeah, I feel like it's

42:03

not even something to like, I think

42:06

just the evolving thing about being an artist is

42:08

literally just getting older. I think that

42:10

is like the beauty of

42:12

just making music as a person and not as just

42:14

like a character and being attached to one thing is

42:17

that this music is me.

42:19

It's like you are listening to

42:21

periods of my life from four

42:23

or five years ago or a

42:25

couple of months ago. I

42:28

feel like every single time I drop something,

42:30

you could just tell in the writing and

42:33

in the production and everything that there

42:35

are things changing in my life and there

42:37

are things that I like now that I

42:39

didn't, excuse me, use it like previously, but

42:41

also things that

42:44

I still enjoy or things

42:46

that I'm being inspired by from a new side

42:49

of things. I think it's just like that's like

42:51

the beauty of it and I feel like with

42:53

the question about like where I would stand in

42:55

the music industry in the next like decade or

42:57

however far that I see my history, I think

42:59

it's just like everyone

43:01

really has trajectory and I think we don't really

43:03

know like the plan of the trajectory or how

43:06

far it will go or how far what

43:09

we do right now is going to last, but I

43:11

think all I think I want is to just stay

43:13

intentional and true to what

43:17

I do now and just like continue

43:19

to just provide people with what I love and

43:23

what I feel is like important to me

43:26

and hopefully it's always still going to be art. You're

43:28

so well spoken, it's crazy, bro. Thank you. I

43:31

love that. I love that, bro. And

43:33

like for an example, so do you know

43:36

who JKill is? JKill. Yeah, I

43:38

do. I'm JKill. Bro, so like

43:40

so to what you basically just said like saying to yourself

43:42

like what you know, whatever you're going through is what you're

43:44

going to be, you know, the type of music you're going

43:47

to be making. This guy just came out

43:49

with an album like a month ago, a month or two ago, maybe

43:51

even longer, actually. And the

43:53

entire album is basically like about this breakup

43:56

like the entire thing, bro. And it's one of

43:58

the most petty, amazing albums I've ever seen. Like

44:01

you gotta, you gotta give it, you gotta give it, just, okay,

44:03

just about like your life, right? Like this dude just went through a

44:05

breakup, he did a whole album on it. Like

44:08

the T-Swift, like T-Swift, bro. Like a very T-Swift moment. I don't

44:10

know, I like it, I think you like it too. But,

44:12

but I mean, I guess, I guess, that's what

44:15

you're saying, I love that. Like, you know,

44:17

your music is gonna be about what you're

44:19

experiencing as you get older, and as you

44:21

just evolve, like, I love that, bro. Fucking, and

44:23

I'm pumped. I'm pumped, bro, I want you to know you

44:26

gotta, do you have any single, I mean, dude,

44:28

I don't know if you have shit in the pipeline, right? I know

44:30

that there's people that have stuff that they're just like sitting on, they

44:32

release it, like, if you had to

44:34

tell us, like, what's, what's coming out next? Is it,

44:36

is it, do you have a single that's cooking already,

44:38

bro, that you're like sitting on, or? I think I

44:40

just want to sit down and like just make the

44:42

best shit that I possibly can for everybody. That I

44:44

feel the most confident about. Like I just want to

44:46

just like lock the fuck in, and just

44:48

like make something that I'm

44:51

unbelievably proud of. And then just

44:54

bestow it, go on tour, and then do it

44:56

all again. I

44:58

can't wait, bro. I'm also doing the things that I love, like streaming,

45:00

and like, you thin it out, whatever, you know? I fucking

45:03

love it, dude. Hell, I am. All

45:31

right, bro.

45:35

Let's hop in. Unfortunately, we're running out of time. I

45:37

had so much fucking fun talking to you, bro. We're

45:40

going to get into the final segment of

45:43

the podcast, bro, of this or that, followed

45:45

by some other questions. And then

45:47

we're done, Skis, bro. Are you ready?

45:50

I am ready. Then I'll ever be. All

45:52

right, so first off, I just want to say I

45:54

know that I didn't get a proper low taper fade

45:56

when I did get my haircut, but to be fair,

45:59

the lady that cuts my hair, the friend that cuts

46:01

my hair. Has never done a fade in her entire

46:03

life. He's so close and I you could tell her

46:05

I said this I'm very proud of her and she

46:07

was so close Dude, literally like

46:09

she did a great dude first time ever

46:11

doing a haircut We really touch women's hair

46:13

right and like, you know, she knows how

46:15

to obviously do like, you know simple men's

46:17

haircuts I think she raised up dude mid

46:19

paper fade or low caper fade, bro I

46:30

think by the way, I think it sounded

46:32

better. So good job on that All

46:35

right studio sessions or live performance. Oh Live

46:39

performance studio session sometimes feel like forced

46:42

play dates, dude. I hate them so much Sometimes that is

46:44

hands down the best analogy. I've ever heard for a studio

46:46

session in my life I'll

46:50

just play day, bro. You don't want to be there All

46:54

depends about who you're working with if you're working with your

46:56

home Is and you're just sitting there you guys you can

46:58

jump making music and it's fun. That's lit But

47:02

if it's like some mandated thing from a company

47:04

and it's like two corporate people were like, yeah

47:07

They'd be good together and just like have to meet somebody

47:09

that like you don't really know if you're gonna vibe with

47:11

You know, you're sitting there for five hours and you're like,

47:13

oh damn. I don't want to be here But

47:16

you know, I'll good sometimes you meet some cool people that

47:18

way too. I think live performances that did I

47:20

love it so much I

47:24

love it so much. I love performance for people. I love

47:26

putting together a show. I love putting on a show for

47:28

people. It's great Great

47:32

great great answer dude. I love that brother. Firstly they are fucking

47:34

I'm gonna use that one man I'm doing a collab with somebody

47:36

that I don't want to do Which I usually

47:39

will always try to do something with people that I do want to

47:41

do but but we've been lied to so many times man like Back

47:45

in the back of my heyday when people fucking like

47:47

me and they wanted I'm kidding But

47:49

when people want to like, you know, like yo, bro, like

47:51

this person really wants to play with you like dipple I

47:53

gotta give a huge shout out to dipple. I

47:55

fucking love that dude like great music, you know, good job I

48:00

freaking funny tell was on the show as

48:02

well. He's hilarious Did like his

48:04

team recess our team was like he loves for now

48:06

He plays every day and like I remember

48:09

we got him in the we got him the party on shame We

48:11

did a collab and like the first thing he says is Brian never

48:13

play this game We have to carry me and it's like I

48:19

hate playing with people that are just anchors

48:21

like Like no, I'm

48:23

not you know, they're like looking back Oh literally

48:26

like even like Drake actually like knew what he

48:28

was doing, bro Like he was dropping math to

48:30

drop an ammo he knew call-outs and stuff like

48:32

he was like a gamer gamer Right, obviously you

48:34

can tell you key games any kind

48:36

of new fornite, right? But like yeah,

48:39

so that's I could vibe to

48:41

that like force play date in certain situations

48:43

You not you think does the cat thing

48:46

that Drake you probably crank 90s.

48:48

I do believe it He probably could like

48:50

he probably still good I have no clue if you still play

48:52

the game or if you switch on to like Todd or apex

48:54

or another game cuz I know That he's a gamer straight up.

48:56

He had like, you know, I think you

48:58

got a ps4 of the Xbox like in his in

49:00

a studio When he was cooking at

49:03

the time. Oh, yeah, bro. He brought me I he

49:05

brought that shell Tom He was gaming dude was just gaming. So

49:07

anyways, I did small intimate

49:10

venue or like a larger

49:12

a larger venue Like a festival stage like

49:14

smaller or like performing a large audiences smaller

49:16

in the venue is always so

49:18

amazing Just the energy

49:21

you came you could feel energy in both

49:23

places that I feel like a smaller internet

49:25

room is always so much better I did

49:28

to her life or home life So

49:36

I'm gonna say to her life and I'm

49:38

gonna tell you why cuz any other time

49:40

if you ask me this I would have

49:42

said home life But I'm gonna say to

49:44

her life because I'm trying to stop being

49:46

sedentary and like get up and go do

49:48

shit Tour was awesome for me. It was

49:50

hell because you know, you're working for 45

49:52

days straight sleeping in a van doing all

49:54

kinds of crazy shit But you are up

49:56

and Adam and walking around and doing something

49:58

every day in your production And that's

50:01

what I love feeling like. I love feeling like I'm getting something done.

50:04

And having a reason to sleep is

50:06

awesome. Dude, I think that you,

50:08

God, bro, you're so, I don't

50:11

think you understand how like, you might not

50:13

have put the pieces fully together. Like the

50:15

stuff that you're saying is like shit that

50:18

I learned like much later in life.

50:20

And like there's something special

50:22

about accomplishing something like, and

50:25

rewarding yourself, right? Like

50:27

by accomplishing something when you're out, it can be

50:29

something so simple too, dude. Like

50:31

Matthew Conahay talks about like just making a list in

50:33

the morning and like, like I like to do lists and

50:35

then like checking that shit off. And it can be the

50:38

simplest things, dude. Like brush teeth,

50:40

go to the bathroom, stretch,

50:42

right? And then you just scratch them up like check,

50:44

check, check, take out trash, right, check. And then do

50:46

some, maybe throw some chores in there. And the end

50:48

of the day you look down, you have like 15

50:50

things checked off your list and you're just like, bro,

50:52

I just felt like, look at this, I had an

50:54

incredible day, I've done so much. And now you feel

50:56

accomplished. And like that's super important, especially

50:58

for men I feel to like

51:01

feel accomplished, feel like you've done something throughout the day. But

51:04

you know, it goes for everyone. Yeah,

51:06

dude, because it's so easy to rock,

51:08

especially just how in like this time

51:10

period, it's actually so easy to rock.

51:12

Everything around us is telling us to,

51:15

like the way that we have social media

51:18

and how easy it is to scroll for hours, look down

51:20

at your phone and then look back up in five hours

51:22

of the past, you know,

51:24

just being able to just lock in on things and

51:26

distract ourselves from how you know, shit's going on. But

51:29

we've got to lock in man, it's locking.

51:31

You got to lock in bro,

51:34

just like. Dude, I love

51:36

that too, it's so easy to rock. So

51:38

either way, your fucking just fiction

51:40

is fucking. Oh, thank you

51:42

sir. Oh, you're welcome sir. Are

51:45

you analog or digital? Ooh,

51:48

fuck, you're so good. Come on bro,

51:50

there's a right answer, I'm kidding. Oh

51:52

my God, I like, ah

51:54

man, I love, I love analog patching,

51:56

I love analog, I love analog shit,

51:59

I love. I love patching

52:01

old analog shit into your new shit. That's

52:03

that's that's the that's the way but

52:06

yeah, that's the analog We got it, right? Digital

52:08

is awesome. Makes it easier, but analog

52:11

works. Okay, breakfast for breakfast or breakfast

52:13

for dinner, dude Breakfast

52:17

for breakfast, dude. Nothing like, there's nothing like early

52:19

morning wake up, you know, a cup of tea,

52:21

some coffee, and some toast, some bacon Agreed,

52:24

agreed, dude. I love that. Breakfast is different, man

52:26

Especially if you like had like

52:28

a really good fast, like if you skip dinner, right? Yeah

52:34

Alright, we're moving on to our other questions away from this

52:36

to that, man. What is your most memorable Fan

52:39

encounter so far in your career? Oh

52:41

my goodness My

52:43

most memorable fan encounter I think

52:46

happened This tour was awesome

52:48

and meeting so many kids and hearing their stories and

52:50

just hearing about how Something

52:53

that you think is so minuscule which is just

52:55

waking up or Doing a

52:57

stream or when I stream or when

52:59

I make music about how it's so

53:01

minuscule in my mind But how it's

53:03

so massive and it can be someone's

53:06

entire world When

53:08

you meet them and I think

53:10

that's what definitely happened on this tour in Albuquerque I

53:12

met a family who was the

53:14

first in line three or four hours early

53:16

to the show and they gave me a

53:19

gift they gave me a blanket and a Like

53:23

a letter and all these other kind of gifts that they made

53:25

me and the mother pulled me aside and just told me about

53:27

how The her son

53:30

was struggling with a lot of mental health issues and

53:32

did something kind of scary After

53:34

that happened. He was in like a large

53:36

depression didn't speak or didn't really, you know

53:38

Interact with life a lot and then found

53:41

my music and she said that you know

53:43

She saw her her child smile again for

53:45

the first time and like a really long

53:47

time and it really My

53:49

god, dude rock my son. Do you making

53:51

me you're making me emotional man, and that's

53:53

that's what it's all about to you,

53:56

man Like you know, that's the

53:58

only thing that we could that's what we could all You can

54:00

hope for, bro. All you can hope for as

54:02

an artist is somebody who puts out content, is literally

54:04

interactions like that. You don't know how many... And dude,

54:06

right? Like, so think about this too, man. Like, I'm

54:08

like tearing up. Think about this too. Think about how

54:10

many people that you've affected in

54:12

that exact way, but like, don't even have like the

54:15

money or like, they live in a certain part of

54:17

the world and like, they don't get to tell you

54:19

that. You know what I mean? And that's why I

54:21

love the Twitch games, bro. That's why I love streaming on Twitch so

54:23

I could be able to like, for every

54:25

kid that doesn't have, you know, the money to

54:27

pay fucking $45 to go to a concert or

54:29

anything. Like, I could provide entertainment for them for

54:31

free out of my own free time. Just be

54:34

able to just like, you know, cater to

54:36

everybody, bro, because not everybody has that, you

54:38

know. Uh-huh. Disposable income to do stuff like that.

54:42

Whew. That's deep, bro. Um,

54:44

a little bit lighter. Uh,

54:46

dream collaboration, living

54:48

or deceased? Ooh,

54:51

okay. Dream collaboration,

54:53

living or deceased? Wow. Fuck.

54:57

That's actually such a treat. Cheers, bro. Oh,

54:59

let their alive. Holy shit. That dude. Dream

55:02

collaboration. You wanna know what's so nuts? I

55:04

actually never idolized or had a dream collaborator

55:06

in my life because- I was the same!

55:08

I was the same! It's like this- Never.

55:11

Because I watched a documentary when I was

55:13

a kid. I think it was called, uh,

55:15

Don't Meet Your Heroes or some shit like

55:17

that. And basically talking about like, uh, how

55:20

we like pedestal, uh, famous people, and every

55:22

single time you're just gonna learn that they suck.

55:24

That they're just not good people. Dude, it's nine

55:26

times out of ten, bro. It's like nine times-

55:28

Nine times out of fucking ten? It

55:31

is. Always. So I- as a kid, I was

55:33

like, yo, fuck that. I'm never gonna idolize a

55:35

single person in my entire life. I'm not gonna-

55:38

But like, it kind of fucked up the whole

55:40

like showing love kind of aspect to other people

55:42

and artists and stuff like that. So now I'm

55:44

slowly getting into like appreciating a lot of other

55:46

people's work and stuff like that. And like looking

55:48

deeper into stuff and like finding out, um,

55:51

you know, how this person started creating their

55:53

art and whatever. But honestly, um, to

55:56

be honest with you, like dream collaboration from when

55:58

I was like fucking- I hate listening

56:00

to all the pop music

56:02

on the radio. I think Kesha, dude, I love

56:04

Kesha so much. That shit would be awesome. Hell

56:06

yeah, bro. Nice, dude. Yeah,

56:08

all right, all right. I can talk about this shit. I can talk

56:11

with you forever, by the way. All

56:13

right, dude, most challenging aspect about being a musician?

56:16

Ooh, most challenging aspect. I think what we were

56:18

talking about previously is that like, so

56:21

you create, I

56:23

create stuff audibly for music for people to

56:25

listen to, and that's what people know me

56:27

for, but it's also like the personality-wise thing.

56:30

So then once you start releasing music and

56:32

you're also like, you know, displaying your personality

56:34

to people and posting TikToks and IG Reels

56:36

and stuff like that to make people listen

56:39

to your music, like now you're

56:41

putting your life on display and

56:43

now a bunch of strangers on the internet are perceiving

56:45

your life or perceiving you as a human and

56:48

drawing their own conclusions to like the

56:51

personality that you reanimated on the internet, right?

56:53

Because I was talking about this on my

56:55

stream, and I was like, I feel like

56:57

people who are, you know, content

56:59

creators or entertainers or whatever have two streams

57:01

of consciousness, the one that they've been their

57:03

whole life, like you're Tyler Blevins, but you're

57:05

also a ninja. So like, you've

57:08

been Tyler Blevins for fucking, you know,

57:10

32 years of your life, but

57:14

you've also been ninja for like, not even, you

57:16

know, you've been like ninja

57:18

for a long time, but it's also you've reanimated

57:20

this version of yourself on the internet, and

57:23

when you go, like Tyler goes,

57:25

but ninja's gonna live

57:27

on like forever. And that's the thing,

57:29

it's just like, you could, when you

57:32

die in real life, you die in real life, but it's like, when

57:35

you reanimate yourself on the internet, you

57:37

know, you're able to be discussed and

57:39

talked about even, you know, past that.

57:41

So it's a situation of like, there's

57:43

so many important things I feel like

57:45

when you're being an artist and no one gives

57:47

you a fucking playbook or no one tells you

57:49

rules or how to carry yourself, you're literally just

57:52

embarrassing yourself for the rest of your life on

57:55

a national television every single

57:57

day. And it's just like, I

57:59

Think that's just... Harrys thing about being an artist,

58:01

this is like their perception of people. I

58:03

think that my scary thing I think a

58:05

lot of other people are just may be

58:07

scared of. you know losing their touch are

58:09

losing their sense of like oh what a

58:12

five when fum Never have I ever do

58:14

the same stuff at I did before. What

58:16

if my peak already happens all over I

58:18

think my thing is perceived. Elevated.

58:21

Damn lead the way Bieber them out of it are

58:23

going to be man in here joy as a way

58:25

to also six months alone a good or with I

58:28

like not deserve this is a lot of you want

58:30

to if you want to hear all his them and

58:32

then when he like adding the highs and i mean

58:34

is is in is like the same like you know

58:36

they don't hear fuckin. Cloud. Going

58:39

abroad a I can Saturday like

58:41

good day off me. Say it

58:44

off me idea of what's your

58:46

favorite genre of music or announce

58:48

our favorite genre or things. The.

58:51

Ability to deliver Indian the in the

58:53

stuff. Recently bought over. My.

58:55

Old letter or music on his listeners

58:58

dubbed the Justin Timberlake and Symbol in

59:00

album but them have the right now

59:02

is really funny. Funny Vision is like

59:05

my favorite album almost on all time.

59:07

Growth of his hands down due to

59:09

original songs. Man like I can't tell

59:11

you that. Every song

59:14

is a bang on. That fucking

59:16

song is on an highly to

59:18

burrow. Susan's i saw No Vision

59:21

and that zero zero zero stop.

59:23

Oh. I knew the elite although how I

59:25

hit one I i can't the another as

59:28

absorption for is not without sharing I was

59:30

a hour on repeat dude for like days

59:32

and decides to hear sometimes you just need

59:34

to like sometimes you just need the like

59:36

be there sometimes you just need to let

59:39

yourself gonna like be at that low and

59:41

I get in like for in moderation spotlight

59:43

for seven years Emotion the sound really mean

59:45

air at your fucking ceiling do the amount

59:47

of has i did that as a as

59:50

a as a teenager nice good headphones and

59:52

for hims is loses aside. Their world Leg

59:54

A Another Yale see you've gone through maybe

59:56

like one trashy I exaggerate have been I've

59:59

been spoken out. You and your

1:00:01

entire life oil either. All fine

1:00:03

and it's. Main

1:00:05

lightspeed to see as long

1:00:07

as the Consulate in. A

1:00:10

highly ah I'd us all of our artists this

1:00:12

question brawl on the podcast and we have two

1:00:14

more follow questions we ask. Everyone has lobbied so

1:00:17

this one is against people but maybe other perfect

1:00:19

answer for these are you know as an artist

1:00:21

and as a musician when your work is finished.

1:00:24

Who. Yeah, wait, that's that's a great

1:00:26

thing. I think of cynicism about what

1:00:28

that word, that whole entire concept of

1:00:30

something be done is. So I said

1:00:32

perspective thing. Ah, You have artificial

1:00:34

me than a year And a song for

1:00:36

four, five, six months. But. I think

1:00:38

it all matters. It's about how you feel

1:00:40

in that moment. Week when I finished a

1:00:42

song up there were recording and were on

1:00:44

a writings had somewhere random in the country

1:00:46

are out of country when we finish it

1:00:49

and I have that idea it's done. I'm

1:00:51

I'm not going to revisit the I want

1:00:53

to but I think that I'm songs are

1:00:55

like songs are like thoughts and they like

1:00:57

moments and. On. Once.

1:00:59

They're finished, he can't really change him or all to

1:01:01

them and I think you know you say I'm and

1:01:03

then they're out there and the Easter. And. They

1:01:05

live and it's all about what you

1:01:08

decide is is gonna be. Finished.

1:01:10

Or done or an idea that you revisit

1:01:12

or whatever. But I think that I'm very

1:01:15

a very i guess like reminded with with

1:01:17

music and I guess I like it to

1:01:19

be like something like. If I

1:01:21

if it's it comes out of my brain. And.

1:01:23

I and I finish the song and I love it Than

1:01:25

that it is, it's done. But if I finish and it's

1:01:27

like s than it was good to get it out of

1:01:29

it. But. I it'll it's somewhere else for

1:01:32

now. Live.

1:01:35

ah minutes great the that's a good i am

1:01:37

amazing at zero yards are you are you are

1:01:40

is has a great answer for everything upon i

1:01:42

always like in august the san marco nasa i'm

1:01:44

not by media trade be there has not had

1:01:46

the five rocket brought a diet like at him

1:01:48

as a it's so easy allegra the success of

1:01:51

a raw at end and media time person like

1:01:53

a hundred off on here brought out on which

1:01:55

aired off i love him i'll have a move

1:01:57

his quarterback of as a person spread to go

1:02:00

45 minutes to get him out of his media training

1:02:02

answering like Jared

1:02:06

man, would you like a new season coming out man? How pumped

1:02:08

are you? Yeah, man We're pumped man. We put in the work

1:02:10

putting the time and it's like come on You

1:02:15

know 100% 100% give 100% out there 100% like some raw here man talk to you like

1:02:24

It's so true I bro final two questions man if

1:02:26

you had to do it all but three Applications

1:02:29

from your phone which ones would you keep and

1:02:32

why and like the you have to download it from the

1:02:34

app store So none of that Gmail bullshit. Well,

1:02:36

you worry you're a genius. First of all,

1:02:38

these are great questions I came up with

1:02:41

all them by myself. I promise Okay,

1:02:45

just so I wouldn't get fucked I think I

1:02:47

would not delete Google Calendar that

1:02:49

is that is staying on my phone I'm definitely

1:02:51

downloading that do I do I still have

1:02:54

the Apple mandated apps like the phone app and the

1:02:56

text app or I mean Yeah, I mean I think

1:02:58

you use like use like use like other apps, right?

1:03:00

You know, like you know, I

1:03:02

mean like like shit that like all that's

1:03:04

there Right, like you're you're fucking your messages

1:03:06

your phone calls all that's there. Awesome.

1:03:08

Yeah, so I think I'm saving my calendar

1:03:12

I'm saving I'm saving uber

1:03:14

eats because I am I cannot hell yes,

1:03:16

brother. I cannot cook at all and

1:03:20

I think What

1:03:23

am I gonna say for my last one I Think

1:03:26

you Got

1:03:29

some form at some form entertainment, bro And

1:03:31

I heard you I just heard you put

1:03:33

your phone down and everyone everyone grabs their

1:03:35

phone It starts going through they're like, what

1:03:37

do I use every day? Yeah, I should

1:03:39

have went to my screen time Yeah,

1:03:43

there you go, bro. Dude, that's that's

1:03:45

a surefire way of knowing what you can't get

1:03:47

what you need it for the rest of your life All

1:03:49

right, dude, you're a gamer. We all understand

1:03:51

this 99% of people in the

1:03:53

world understands what if K means, bro Sans for away

1:03:56

from keyboard we here at a FK

1:03:58

with ninja. We love this shit define AFK

1:04:00

in your own words dude what do you

1:04:02

do when you're AFK? What do

1:04:04

I do when I'm AFK? Well well usually

1:04:06

what I used to do when I was AFK

1:04:08

was probably pissed but I think uh

1:04:12

man being AFK is just I think just

1:04:14

like what we were talking about again previously

1:04:17

it's just life experience man going out and

1:04:19

actually experiencing what life is beyond the keyboard

1:04:21

and the mouse man beyond

1:04:23

beyond whatever we're doing in front of us on a screen

1:04:26

I think like thank

1:04:28

God it's getting cooler to be AFK now and

1:04:30

a lot more people who are playing video games

1:04:32

are more excited to go experience stuff with their

1:04:34

friends and go to these events and that's and

1:04:37

that's awesome I think it's I think being

1:04:39

AFK is just experiencing life as a as

1:04:41

a human and just enjoying what

1:04:43

we have in front of us outside. Dude,

1:04:46

great dude Eric, Eric, Eric DOA not though

1:04:49

uh am I flam dunking the AFK with

1:04:51

Ninja podcast right now? flam you dunk it

1:04:53

bro like I'm gonna I'm gonna say it

1:04:55

like why not hear a guest so far

1:04:58

this is awesome. Thank you so much man.

1:05:00

And dude yeah thank you for taking the

1:05:02

time to be here bro appreciate it. And

1:05:09

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1:05:11

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