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0:39

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0:41

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The cats, not surprising, uncheck

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changed at the moment, but the swans, that's

0:59

where the big story lies.

1:01

It is not. Good morning to you, as

1:03

you say, on this grand final, either mission

1:05

of NFL daily. There's still some intrigue

1:07

around these two teams. Isn't there? We we

1:10

get to the the day before the game, and the

1:12

Gilong forty club is is yet to clearly

1:14

get its own head around whether Max Holmes

1:16

stays in the twenty two, Chris Scott last

1:18

night, Nat. And for those who are waking

1:20

up this morning and listening to this some

1:22

stage of the Friday, Chris Scott was on

1:24

the Sunday, footage show version of the

1:27

the weeks festivities on channel

1:29

nine last night. And and left the

1:31

the door open as as to how this

1:33

looks with Max Holmes being in the twenty two,

1:35

but with the decision still to be made about him. Yeah.

1:37

It's pretty simple. He just needs to prove that he's

1:39

a hundred percent fit or you won't claim.

1:41

So it's a quirk of the

1:44

system that

1:45

you need to be contained forty eight hours

1:47

out. So what we really felt

1:49

we had no choice, but to pick the

1:51

human and our team, he'll be tested tomorrow

1:54

morning, and he will either be absolutely

1:56

ready to go. or he might play.

1:58

What's your take on that

2:00

demo in terms of whether he plays

2:03

or not?

2:04

I think it's just a risk, isn't it at

2:06

any time to take a player in who

2:08

is not one hundred percent, which is what Chris

2:10

Scott is saying. Do you have a gut feel? Yeah.

2:12

My gut feel is that he unfortunately for

2:14

Maxi, he doesn't playing it again. That's just

2:16

purely gut feeling. Absolutely. That's all it

2:18

is. So so for people along who

2:20

have connected and and and worry about that, that's

2:23

all that is. But III base it

2:25

Nat on on those words of of Chris Scott last

2:27

night. There's clearly a a lot of wiggle room in that

2:29

twenty two when they're referencing to the the need to

2:31

make a a team announcement on the Thursday night

2:33

as tradition. It doesn't line

2:35

up with how clubs operate these days, particularly

2:37

when you're going into a grand final.

2:39

The the the problems are around

2:41

a player that as as as we now

2:44

know -- Mhmm. -- going into a grand final

2:46

who needs a fitness test either

2:48

sometime today or even on

2:50

the morning of the game. There are problems

2:53

everywhere with how this town is is wide. I mean,

2:55

access to to grounds is is

2:57

not something that is is easy to to

2:59

to arrange. Even even for a team that's based

3:01

in Victoria on the day of Grand Final, we

3:03

go back to to the two thousand and

3:05

nineteen Grand Final. When when all the folk had

3:08

been on does feel Davis play. And

3:10

in the end, he had to have his fitness

3:12

test on the MCG with

3:15

the performers getting ready to to

3:17

do their tax around him and that's

3:19

how public that one was and and again post

3:21

the event the club was talking about. We

3:23

we didn't know what to do. We we couldn't

3:25

take into a urban venue because that would have been

3:27

a a circus in itself at moment that was seen

3:29

getting out of a car and having a a fitness

3:31

run through, and the cameras would have, you know, with the phones

3:33

and and whatnot would have become. the the

3:35

story itself. So that's an issue. I'm

3:37

I'm sure Gilen will have a plan around

3:40

that aspect of it, but yeah. Look,

3:42

III just you do feel for Maxheim

3:44

Stoneridgey because it's not yet locked in. I mean, what have been

3:46

the greatest moment if he's short career?

3:48

He's not yet locked away as being a

3:50

part of this this twenty two in the in a cat's

3:52

perspective. Yeah.

3:53

And being such a young player as well, it

3:55

would be playing on his mind all week.

3:57

And I I imagine

3:59

it's quite

3:59

an an and stressful situation,

4:02

which doesn't help in

4:02

ground final week, which is a very abnormal

4:05

week in itself. And and you're right, the

4:07

media's around a fitness test

4:09

when it comes to Ground final is

4:11

next level I remember. Steve Johnson

4:14

and the media is standing up shoppers,

4:16

and we love a shopper shop, by the way.

4:18

I haven't seen it works. But, you

4:20

know, the the links that they will go

4:22

to just to get ten seconds of

4:24

vision of this fitness test, it's huge and

4:26

fans absolutely lap it up.

4:28

So that is one side of things and

4:30

then you look at the other side

4:32

and that is the Sydney swans and there is

4:34

a heartbreaking story when

4:37

it comes to Logan McDonald,

4:40

a player with so much potential

4:42

and talent. And I think he is going to be

4:44

a star. He just needs a little bit

4:46

more time to to develop, but he's played

4:48

seventeen games this season, Damon. And

4:50

unfortunately, he becomes the

4:52

first player in eight years, I think,

4:54

to be omitted for a grand

4:56

final. Yeah. Well, well, I I suppose there

4:58

was an element of that last last year

5:00

wasn't there with with gardener of the the bulldogs

5:02

that coming out in that particular week.

5:05

But the it it is sad. I

5:07

mean, I mean, people

5:09

at this stage of of these of these tree light

5:11

like McDonald's too easy. I mean, there's a

5:13

lot of fully left, and and it's not going to

5:15

define him. But he's not thinking of that right

5:17

now, having been told yesterday that he that

5:19

he's out. And there's he's intrigued

5:21

around that one too now. And I mean, to to bring

5:23

Hayden McLean in. And and we

5:25

thought he was only coming in in

5:27

the event of Sam Reed coming out. Yeah.

5:29

Sam Reed's been left in, and

5:31

Again, I'll I'll get you to to listen. I don't think you've

5:34

heard this. John Long White was also on the

5:36

the Thursday edition of the Sunday forty

5:38

show last night, and and this is what he to

5:40

say around about the decision he made around Liggett

5:42

McDonald. Yeah. It's never easy. I've

5:44

been on the other end of that conversation before

5:46

and It's really tough,

5:48

you know. It's not easy for him. He's a young

5:50

player with a great future for us, and

5:53

we just start with this game. we

5:54

needed a bit more – a bit of

5:57

flexibility that Hayden gave us,

5:59

but it's certainly a

5:59

tough thing to do with

6:01

that Logan's a terrific guy, and

6:03

he'll bounce back be fine.

6:04

So I know John Longmire says there,

6:07

he'll

6:07

be right. But but Willie,

6:09

because this is such a huge thing in

6:11

in particular

6:11

if they go on to win a flag, I

6:13

don't know. I think that'll stick

6:15

with you for a while. It's it's a massive ruse,

6:17

isn't it to to attempt to

6:19

to have if if that's your plan around it,

6:22

to to to put Logan McDonald as the

6:24

focus of it publicly as being the person

6:26

who's taken out of the team. If that's the

6:28

only reason it's being done for Nat. So I

6:30

I take John Long Meyer at at absolute

6:32

face value with that type of decision. I I

6:34

don't think grand final selection with a young player

6:36

is something you you put out in the

6:38

media landscape purely to get an edge on

6:40

selection. I I mean, that's not to

6:42

say reads a lock. I mean, it might wake up this

6:44

morning or tomorrow morning, you know, saw

6:46

an edge. You're nervous about taking that grind

6:48

into this game, but I I don't think

6:50

they've done that decision yesterday based upon

6:52

that. So it is still a watch this place

6:54

clearly. Just the resilience attached

6:57

to to John Longridge himself now. When he

6:59

when he referred to, you know, he will be

7:01

okay. He he's a kid. He'll get through

7:03

mean John Longmoor himself experienced that. As we know,

7:05

he burst onto the scene as a as a seventeen

7:07

year old kicked a hundred goals as a in a

7:09

season as as a twenty oh, sorry, ninety eight

7:11

goals in a season as twenty year old

7:13

had an extraordinary career, and then the adversity

7:15

kicked in. And and he missed North Melbourne's nineteen

7:17

ninety six premiership. He wasn't part

7:19

of the ninety eight losing grand final and

7:21

then only really got an obvious

7:24

spike in the in the nineteen ninety

7:26

nine premiership team. which was

7:28

ultimately his last game of football

7:30

because of unavailability for for

7:32

Jason McCarthy in that particular team.

7:34

Now, Oregon would have got in anyway, but The reason I'm

7:36

raising all of that now now, when you look at

7:38

Logan Mcdonald and you think that is hard,

7:40

that that is really hard. And then it might be

7:42

shaping him for a little bit, least mentally, but

7:44

there's a long career ahead of Logan Mcdonald. And

7:46

and John himself is proof that, you know,

7:48

these missed issues do not define you if

7:50

you were if you were hanging there and then just continue

7:53

to to play your craft and

7:55

and and do your stuff. So, yeah, it's

7:57

hard. I I really feel free. Seventeen games in this

7:59

season. And I thought at times deliberately was

8:01

asked to play the d co role and just the

8:03

the take the opposition defender out of play

8:05

role, which, you you know, he has done

8:07

pretty well in in that context, but ultimately,

8:09

there there's the worry around Sam Reed

8:12

not being able to maybe help in the rock,

8:14

Tom Hickey. Yeah. If that's a decision that

8:16

they've ultimately made, to bring the

8:18

cleaning to do that role, to help Hickey,

8:20

and and therefore, Reid can stay forward where they

8:22

do need him as much as around the ground.

8:24

Yeah. I think that's probably the thinking

8:26

behind it. I I do wonder if Logan

8:28

McDonald

8:28

might be the sub because if Sam Reed

8:31

is unable at some point to

8:33

play on with that adapter concern

8:35

then it would make sense for someone like a

8:37

Logan McDonald to come straight in. So I wonder

8:39

if there is something there

8:41

and perhaps if they do salute on

8:45

Saturday that he might still get a

8:47

premiership medal of

8:47

sorts. Yeah. You're top heavy then, aren't you? If

8:49

if someone else goes down in the first -- True. -- a couple

8:51

of minutes or first quarter. And and I I

8:54

I'm with you on that possibility, absolutely.

8:56

But you've also got the luxury

8:58

of a of a Braden Campbell who has played that role

9:00

pretty regularly this year sort of big up really a

9:02

lot of holes. And and they've got enough

9:04

I suppose diversity within

9:07

their playing ranks to to move

9:09

the the magnets and and and allow

9:11

someone who's a bit smaller than than maybe

9:13

Logan McDonald. But Yeah. III would

9:15

think that is clearly a consideration

9:17

that they're they're they're they're

9:19

weighing up very very strongly. I love

9:21

the in preg around all of the

9:23

selection and and the injury mystery

9:25

as

9:25

well throughout the week. It's it's

9:27

certainly kept us very busy in

9:29

the media. Indeed, and you talk about Logan

9:32

McDonald. And it's a first ground final for

9:34

him, a first ground final for so many

9:36

players when we look ahead

9:38

to tomorrow Patty McCarton and

9:40

Tyson Stingle. And then The other end of the

9:42

spectrum demo, it is ridiculous

9:44

to think that Isaac Smith and Buddy

9:46

Franklin are going to be playing in their

9:48

sixth grand finals. tomorrow.

9:50

Like,

9:50

that just boggles the mind, doesn't it? You

9:52

wanted

9:52

to talk about then that you you wanna get a

9:55

Hawthorne fiverr into this conversation? Yeah. Is

9:57

that the purpose of rising that end nowhere?

9:59

No. I

9:59

just think it's an

10:00

incredible feat for for any

10:03

player, isn't it? I mean, let alone plays six

10:05

games at NFL, but six ground finals.

10:06

No. It is not. And and just I

10:09

mean, the if you wanted to then separate those two players in

10:11

their in their storylines with with their

10:13

roles in their second clubs in the

10:15

in the I fell. I mean, to think that

10:17

Smith is still a crucial

10:19

player going into a grand

10:21

final. You know, given how, you know, when he went

10:23

to Jollong well, you get a year, you get a year, we get

10:25

two years here. He's going into next year as well. So,

10:27

I mean, I think he's been really, really good pick

10:29

up. And the the power running that he

10:31

does both ways, it it allows

10:33

them to become it has allowed them to come at

10:35

the team that they they have been this year, the

10:37

dominant team of the of the

10:39

of the season obviously, with the the fifteen

10:41

games in a in a row that they've won going into

10:43

the into the game, and he has just

10:45

got better in in that team dynamic

10:48

each each and every week. There's six grandfather

10:51

you referred to there in that moment that that's the number of

10:53

both these clubs too from

10:55

respectively two thousand and five as

10:57

Sydney swans is sixth in that time

10:59

frame. and it's the sixth for also,

11:01

Jelong, since two thousand and

11:03

seven. And for for supporters

11:05

of of football clubs who who don't

11:07

get to experienced that. And and there's there's a lot

11:09

of supporters of a lot of clubs who haven't

11:11

got near a grand filing in that time frame

11:13

that alone seeks. So yeah, I mean,

11:15

these two clubs, they they just they just do

11:17

things differently, and they do it on the back of the

11:19

people they bring in, and and the people they

11:21

choose to bring in, and and then what they do to the

11:23

people once they're in, That's

11:25

amazing. The standout messaging of this. I

11:27

mean, you can have your rebuilds and you can

11:29

deliberately go down to the bottom of the ladder and try and get

11:31

your, you know, three or four seasons of of high

11:33

end draft pixel. It doesn't

11:35

work if you don't have the right people there

11:37

in the first place and the right people

11:39

don't want to be down the bottom of letter for that mid

11:41

length of time. i. e. what North

11:43

Melbourne tried to do disastrously. So

11:45

look, you get to this stage now and

11:47

you realize that so much has to go

11:49

right. But but the starting point of all of this is

11:51

just get the right people in on

11:53

and off field and I don't think any clubs

11:56

have have done better than than these

11:58

two clubs. And just speaking of that, Nat, I

12:00

mean, there's a nice link in there with this one too

12:02

with Tom Hadley being the the cap of

12:04

the of the Gilong team in two thousand and seven

12:06

and nine, breaking the the forty four

12:08

year apprenticeship charter as it was in two thousand and

12:11

seven. And now he's so crucial to

12:13

to the continuing legacy of the

12:15

the city swans as chief executive officer.

12:17

Yeah. And you spoke to him

12:18

and there's an article on afl dot com. Are

12:20

you in the afl live app now if you want have

12:22

a further read. It is gonna

12:24

be a little strange for him to be

12:26

there on the days and obviously wanting his

12:29

Sydney swans now to win because that's

12:31

where he works. but of course, there is still

12:33

such an emotional attachment for

12:35

him to the Jalong football

12:37

club, just two clubs, incredible

12:39

clubs who have had such success.

12:41

But an incredible culture

12:43

that has been brand at both

12:45

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13:37

Well, Damon, I think we probably have

13:39

to talk about the situation that

13:42

facing the Hawthorne football club and the wider

13:44

NFL community at this point in

13:47

time. And Chris Fagan, the Brisbane Lions

13:49

coach who has stood down

13:51

for the meantime, provided

13:53

you with a statement yesterday.

13:56

I'll just read a little

13:58

bit from it.

13:59

I was shocked and deeply distressed by the

14:02

allegations reported at the media yesterday

14:04

concerning my time at the

14:06

Hawthorne football club. He goes on

14:08

to refute the allegations

14:10

and says I intend to defend

14:12

myself. It is my hope that people would

14:14

judge me based upon the way

14:16

I act actually conduct myself and not by

14:18

what is written in the media eye support and

14:20

welcome the investigation announced by

14:22

the NFL yesterday I intend

14:24

to participate fully in the investigation and

14:26

look forward to being heard and being

14:28

accorded due process and

14:31

fairness, but it is clear that

14:34

he's very distressed by the

14:36

allegations and following a

14:38

similar trend, I guess,

14:40

to Alistair Larkson as

14:42

well strongly

14:42

refuting these claims demo.

14:45

That that that's where this obviously now

14:47

goes and and the I felt as we speak

14:50

is still formulating that

14:52

the identities of the four people who

14:54

will form its its investigation panel to

14:56

to look into it. We know that there's going

14:58

to be representatives

15:00

of of varying parts

15:02

of this story and and obviously the first

15:04

nations players who who

15:06

have had the experiences that were raised in the

15:08

Hawthorne forty Club report and in

15:10

the reporting independently of that

15:13

report to to Russell Jackson on the ABC

15:15

all of this will be factored in and and Gillum McLaughlin

15:17

is indicating that that there's going to be

15:19

an announcement of of that nature as

15:21

to who the people are at some

15:23

stage of the next I mean, maybe

15:25

twenty four, maybe maybe in the next three or

15:27

four days anyway. So we'll get it moving.

15:29

But the the the due process now and the

15:31

the natural justice, it's it's it's obviously

15:33

now what needs to happen and and will

15:35

happen. And and Chris Fagan and Alastair

15:37

Clarkson and Jason Burton and

15:39

Andrew Newbould and others who who who

15:41

will be required to defend actions. They

15:43

they all deserve that as

15:45

as do as do the people

15:48

making the complaints and

15:50

and the the revealing of their experience

15:52

of this time. So the four person panel

15:54

will will wade through all this now, but but

15:56

this is not going to be

15:58

wrapped up quickly and and

16:00

and put back into the

16:02

club's domain in a time frame that

16:04

allows both respectively

16:06

Brisbane lines with Chris Fagan and

16:08

North Melbourne with LSD Clarkson to to

16:10

think that those two men are going to

16:12

be able to plan properly as

16:15

senior coach for their seasons

16:17

of twenty twenty 3II

16:19

just cannot see that that that this gets

16:21

wrapped up before Christmas. And and that's

16:23

just my take on what I feel I

16:25

know of the of the legal system. Once you

16:27

get King's counsel involved

16:29

in anything, you you cannot

16:31

with the magnitude of these claims,

16:33

And with the need for due process and

16:36

natural justice to to play out

16:38

fairly, it takes time. And and

16:40

and there's going to be claims and count claims

16:43

and versions of events that are going to be

16:45

contradicted. And that's why you get the

16:47

king's council and other legal people involved.

16:49

And none of it suggests to

16:51

me that that we're going to be able to have

16:53

anything meaningful before Christmas. If we and

16:55

if we do, I think that would be

16:57

half a half a miracle and and

16:59

and also to the the commitment

17:01

that to to not compromise the

17:03

actual integrity of the investigation by trying

17:05

to rush it. So -- Yeah. -- look, the the these

17:08

clubs faced with with decisions. They they now need

17:10

to go down different parts with those

17:12

coaches at least as in a holding

17:14

pattern. And And where it goes from from

17:16

here, Nat, well, I don't think anyone would

17:18

claim to know. No. I think you're one

17:20

hundred percent correct there. This is a

17:22

process that cannot be rushed in

17:24

any form. I'm

17:26

curious, Stamo, because Chris

17:27

Fagan and Alastair Clarkson have

17:29

the same manager in James

17:32

Henderson. have they also got the

17:34

same legal

17:35

representation? I don't believe it's

17:37

yet fully resolved. No. I mean, clearly clearly

17:40

that the moment this story broke, that that's

17:42

your first point of of call.

17:44

You you work it out. From from what I

17:46

could gather even up to late last

17:48

night, no, I I don't believe they do. And and I

17:50

and I and see that as being sort of

17:52

too startling in in terms

17:54

of what people might read in or out of

17:56

that or or not read into

17:58

I mean, they've they've got individual issues to

18:00

to deal with, and obviously, they need their

18:02

own people representing them exclusively

18:05

to to everyone else. And I

18:07

mean, just as you've said there, the level

18:09

of complexity in that alone. I

18:11

mean, they've been they've been implicated

18:13

clearly with the the report itself and the

18:15

and the ABC reporting There's

18:18

going to be versions of events that that they

18:20

have. I would imagine that that that are different

18:22

to to other peoples as well and and

18:24

and context all around it. So, yeah, they need

18:26

their own legal teams and there's

18:29

going to be a lot of that in

18:31

the lead up to the sexual investigation and

18:33

and and how it all plays out. And I mean

18:35

Gil McLaughlin is is is committed

18:37

now now. And even we talk about

18:39

time frames and and and storylines,

18:41

I I don't see how he leaves his post as

18:43

CEO now until this is wrapped up. And he has

18:45

indicated that even in the past twenty four hours, if

18:47

that is a possibility as well. So

18:50

Yeah. As to how it looks now, I'm just not I

18:52

mean, no no one would know. No one knows what

18:54

time frame this takes on. All I know is that

18:56

when you get King's counsel involved in

18:59

anything it's never ever wrapped

19:01

up quickly. And and when it comes to the the

19:03

need for due process and the need for

19:05

natural justice, Nord should be wrapped up

19:07

quickly. you're one hundred percent correct there. And

19:09

of course, when all of

19:10

those details come to light

19:12

about the four person panel led by the

19:14

King's Council, you can read all about it on

19:16

afl dot com dot a u in the NFL

19:19

live app. Demo, just to

19:21

round out our grand final

19:23

leave edition today of

19:25

NFL daily. James heard

19:27

has spoken publicly

19:30

about his want and his

19:32

desire he has declared that

19:34

he wants to coach, the Essenin football club

19:36

bigennies basically said at

19:38

a a luncheon yesterday

19:40

that part of that motivation is he wanting

19:42

to seek closure for what

19:45

happened during his time and and

19:47

during the drugs at

19:49

the bombers. So I'll just write a quote

19:51

for you. I would love to get the job. I know there's been

19:53

a lot of speculation around whether I've done the

19:56

time or done the work, but I'm

19:58

passionate about the club, I have spent a lot of

19:59

the last twelve months working in football and

20:02

basically dedicating myself

20:04

back to the game. We know that he

20:06

has presented Essenin along with Adam

20:09

Uze who is obviously a

20:11

front runner as well for the job.

20:13

I still can't get my head around

20:15

this story, Demo, that James

20:17

Heard could be an actual

20:20

possibility to be announced in the next week or

20:22

two

20:22

as Essen and Coach again. Yeah. I'm

20:24

the same that. And and and if people

20:27

need to to remind us of of both our views we've

20:29

discussed this in the past week and a

20:31

half, two weeks on on iFL dailies and other

20:33

iFL dot com dot a platforms. I mean, I I

20:35

just still can't believe we're

20:37

talking about this man potentially coming back

20:39

as coach of Essen and the club

20:41

that he ultimately was

20:43

coach of when subsequent

20:45

to his time there, thirty four players who

20:47

were under his watch at the time missed a season

20:49

of football for a program

20:52

that was inflicted upon those

20:54

players and and and ultimately had the

20:56

long and last reaching effects. And that

20:58

referencing then about the speculation

21:00

about whether I've done this time done

21:02

the time. Well, no. There's no speculation

21:04

wise he's done the time. Absolutely, he's done the

21:06

time. He was banned from the game for a year. He was allowed

21:08

back to Essen than football club. People

21:10

forget that. People forget that after the

21:12

twelve months he had out of the game, he was coach

21:15

obvious in the in the season after that. And and it was

21:17

also the club then removed him himself. So

21:19

there's no speculation around doing the time. And

21:21

on a massive believer and you'd get a second chance,

21:23

but but my my my my issue with this

21:25

is is not about having done time. It's

21:27

about how could how could this

21:29

club think that he's the right person to take it

21:31

out of its slightest problems? And given what

21:33

he's done now, that's just my opinion that I know

21:35

you've got similar views. others

21:37

others are angry that that, you know, we

21:39

have this feeling. I don't get all of that. That's what Fuddy

21:41

does. It it does stir emotions and

21:43

it gets passion and and people's allegiances

21:45

come in, and and that's all what this game is

21:47

about. But I'm I'm with you totally on this.

21:49

So I I can't believe this is is being

21:52

even considered and and not just considered that clearly

21:54

on a on a form of a shortlist

21:56

and and and could well be, and and still

21:58

is being pushed by key people at

22:01

that forty club at Amusa in that as as we've

22:03

learned is is certainly

22:05

well placed as as well in the options

22:07

here. And I and I still have a strong belief

22:09

that bread Scott will will make a decision

22:11

one way or another after he

22:13

completes his commitments for the twenty twenty two

22:15

grand final as NFL football

22:17

operations boss then, I think, once that games out of

22:19

the way, can he properly make the

22:21

decision? Do I want to go through the last

22:23

stages of this s in the forty club process?

22:25

If he does, I would think he would would

22:27

loom as as large as any of

22:29

these candidates and would almost be perfect for

22:31

them. But that's a big if because Brad

22:33

to this point now is yet to get

22:35

his head around that possibility as far

22:37

as I can tell? It's a

22:39

intriguing and interesting

22:40

situation that we will continue to monitor

22:42

very, very closely Alright. It is time

22:44

now, Demo, to get your grand

22:47

final tips. I want your

22:49

winner with the margin. I want your

22:51

Norm Smith and

22:51

your first goal. go. Okay. Well, we're

22:53

going with you along that. We're going with you along about the the

22:55

two and a half three goal range. So we'll go with

22:57

fifteen point smack bang on the two and a

23:00

half. That's the margin. I

23:02

need to even say who I think is gonna win the North Smith middle

23:05

given Chad Warner's running out onto that

23:07

ground in question. And while he plays for the team

23:09

that I've just tipped to lose the

23:11

ground for I think he would be both the Smith Middle East and the

23:13

first goal kick in that Oh. And that probably

23:15

won't surprise you. A

23:16

Chad double. I like it. Yeah. My grand

23:19

final tip is along by ten points. I've got Tom

23:21

Stewart winning the Norm Smith

23:23

Medal and Tom Papley for

23:26

first goal. And my

23:28

other tip for Graham Final Day is for

23:30

you to do another showy. What

23:32

was that last night on the footage

23:33

show? From a

23:36

personal perspective, was better of the two

23:38

problems I had, either Singh,

23:40

which I was refusing to do or or

23:42

do a showy as part of

23:44

the the the May major

23:46

fundraising component of this show last night, more than

23:48

three point three million dollars raised for the

23:51

Lightroom Cancer Charity, which is

23:53

an amazing organization, which

23:55

does so much good. So it was just my little part

23:57

of being roped into the shenanigans around

23:59

the raising of the money net. It was Cancorns'

24:01

shoe. He's wetting, and it was

24:03

the same shoe. a Chewy Toby Law

24:06

for about two hundred

24:08

kilometers of of the seven hundred and

24:10

fifty dead. So anyway, don't

24:12

feel sick yet, but I am fearful that

24:14

I made at some stage of the of the day.

24:16

That'll be

24:16

the headline you missed the grand final

24:19

you did a showy and caught some kind of

24:21

bacterial infection. Good luck with that

24:23

demo, and of course, good luck

24:26

tomorrow. at the Grand Final. Thank you everyone

24:28

for joining us again on afl daily. Don't

24:30

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24:32

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24:34

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24:36

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24:38

special grand final edition of

24:41

NFL Daily. We'll catch you

24:43

then.