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It's Monday, September twenty six.

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I'm Nat Edwards, and this is AFL

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Daily.

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Knock down the cell, we're good to be great. But

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I'm gonna keep it right way. The skipper.

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The hero. The superstar. What

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a moment. Joel

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Sellwood has nailed goal.

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the emotions bubble over here

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at the MCT

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Angelong wins its tenth premiership

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in history with one of the most dominant

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performance you'll see. How did they do

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it? Well, I'm packed at all and joining me this

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morning to do that is Damien Barrett,

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and Demo an eighty one

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point drubbing of the Sydney swans.

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It was the cat's sixteenth win

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in a row, and they were

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incredible.

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Yeah. They were invincible in the end what

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they're not. to get to the

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game with already winning fifteen matches

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in a row just to get there is pretty

0:58

special, but it takes something

1:00

shortnearly special to then produce

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your best performance of the season

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in the grandfauna, which the the cats did and

1:06

and did from But at the moment, the

1:08

first five to ten minutes of arm wrestle

1:10

got broken open by them. And

1:12

they've been importantly scored because

1:15

you can sometimes whether those moments but you've

1:17

then got a score and go clear and they did

1:19

do that. And they got to court a time

1:21

nicely positioned as

1:23

as to where they wanted to be and then they just

1:25

held their line, held their ground for the next

1:28

thirty minutes and then absolutely just

1:30

blew this competition and in in

1:32

this whole season and particularly the Sydney

1:35

swans apart in the final hour

1:37

of a match play after that. There

1:38

are storylines everywhere when you think

1:40

about a grand final. And

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one of the

1:44

best storylines I think is it

1:46

was a premiership for the Aldi's and

1:48

we spoke about that after the game on

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our forty feet analysis piece

1:53

as well. But the fact that the cats have

1:55

ten players over the age of thirty.

1:57

Tom Stewart's also Twenty nine,

1:59

you had Isaac

1:59

Smith win, the Norman Smith medal,

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the oldest player in history, to

2:04

do that. It's just

2:06

quite remarkable because twelve months ago

2:08

when they lost that prelim, we were saying

2:10

they were too old and too

2:12

slow and was it for them. They were

2:14

gonna drop off a cliff where they proved all of

2:16

us wrong. And that they all performed. They

2:19

they performed on the day. They performed

2:21

throughout the course of the the finals

2:23

series, it must be said as well. And

2:25

obviously, they they all perform from that

2:28

halfway point of the Home and Away season two

2:30

where their where their sixteen win streak

2:32

started. And and it just I mean,

2:34

if this season kept going, no one was

2:36

gonna get near them. And that how well they

2:38

time this whole run. And you're

2:40

right now. I mean, to to go back to that preliminary

2:43

final performance of last year where

2:45

they got absolutely blown

2:47

away by by Melbourne. There were reasons for

2:49

it. I mean, we we we learned as the weeks

2:51

unfolded that there was a an illness attached

2:53

to that performance, but Ultimately, they

2:56

weren't gonna be winning the game in football anyway. And

2:58

those older players, you mentioned, that they didn't

3:00

have good nights on that night. They had to regroup,

3:02

they decided to to go again with them, and there

3:04

was a lot of ridicule about doing that one

3:06

more time than the whole dad's army component

3:08

tool. I mean, as you know, and

3:10

we spoke about this on I felt daily

3:12

as the year unfolded that they were putting out

3:14

on the path a a team and it was its

3:16

own record being broken every week, being the oldest

3:19

ever assembled. The grand final team was the oldest

3:21

ever assembled and they just kept

3:24

utilizing the the strength out of that as opposed

3:26

to the the vulnerability out of that. And

3:28

and and that that is is a special before

3:30

us now because those those players that the ten of them

3:32

over the thirty, they they were crucial in the

3:34

end. There were no weak links amongst the

3:36

thirty Gary Rowan is one of them

3:38

and Ultimately, he he stood up and

3:40

helped them get through that tough qualifying fine

3:42

without his performance in that. They don't

3:44

then become the, you know, the dominant

3:46

team. They were in the prelim and grand finals.

3:49

So I loved all that now. And and and

3:51

just we we might just now for the moment, and

3:53

then go go back to February. When when this

3:55

club was still being reviewed by all

3:57

of us outside of it and and the other

3:59

people in the competition is to where was

4:01

it at? for twenty twenty two. I mean, a lot

4:03

of people thought it was it. They're gonna go around with these

4:05

older players one more time and and then

4:07

have to do the the rebuild that they'll they'll be encouraged

4:09

to do. But They were having none of it now.

4:12

Steve Hocking came back in his chief executive

4:14

officer, Chris Scott spoke to him with us at

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afl dot com dot au, and and

4:18

boldly went where very few people

4:20

prepared to go given where this club had

4:22

been in in the recent seasons. Can you win the

4:24

flag in twenty twenty two? Yep. I'm

4:27

very confident of that. Going into this season

4:29

reminds me a little bit of going into my

4:31

first year. I I can sort of

4:33

draw the power cells there to enthusiasm

4:35

I felt then. It's

4:37

it's not necessarily gonna be easy for

4:39

us, but there really seems a sense

4:42

around the place that there's a bit to be

4:44

optimistic about as well. It was a bold

4:46

call, Demo, and he looks

4:48

like an absolute genius now. I mean,

4:50

Chris Scott's second flag.

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This only enhances his

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legacy at this club. Unbelievable that

4:56

it's eleven years apart, those two flags

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too. It is. And III

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just love people who give themselves

5:03

the the best chance every year. And I say

5:05

that, Nat, because I let you know my

5:07

views on on the clubs that deliberately

5:09

bottom out. And there's been a lot of them

5:11

even in that eleven seasons,

5:13

eleven years that Chris Scott has been

5:15

in the system, twelve seasons.

5:17

And they just never ever

5:19

get to where they wanna get to because of this

5:21

cop out sort of mentality that by

5:23

by by bottoming out, we're naturally gonna

5:25

progress. They they don't do that, the cats.

5:27

And again, they've been criticized for what they've

5:29

given up to to get some players in, but

5:31

but they do so knowing that that's

5:33

a better that's better alternative to

5:35

them than than to to want

5:37

to spend in advance a season

5:39

knowing you're not gonna be a chance. I mean,

5:41

taking that attitude they've gotten at

5:43

has has created did this aura about them.

5:45

And and in the end, there was an aura, which which

5:47

got them to this this

5:49

final series. And and once they got

5:51

through that first final, which could have gone on other and

5:53

we know that. But they start to their game plan

5:56

in that qualifying final three

5:59

weeks ago, it got them through, it

6:01

got them that extra break, they then had

6:03

done the hard yards. And sometimes we look

6:05

back on a season and and it's the premium formula

6:07

that has to be the the hardest one

6:09

for for a club to win more. This particular

6:11

year from from a cat's perspective, it was the qualifying

6:13

final, that that ultimately was their grand

6:15

final, their big calling would in that match.

6:18

And from there on, they were plain sailing.

6:20

We talked about the oldies, but what

6:22

about some of the younger kids in

6:24

this group? Sam deConnie is the

6:26

one that Springs to mine, and you spoke to

6:28

him after the game that video on

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afl dot com. jolly, when the afl live

6:32

app now, if anyone wants to check it out, but

6:34

twenty fourth career game becomes

6:36

a premiership player. I

6:39

loved there's this vision,

6:41

this incredible vision of him running

6:43

across the MC CJ. I'm leaping

6:45

into the stands. It like hugging

6:47

all of his

6:47

siblings, his parents. It was

6:50

just incredible. But what a

6:52

story -- Yeah. -- SDKs. it's

6:54

a lot of hugs too. When you try and take in

6:56

everyone in that family and and he he did

6:58

it, he did it beautifully, he did it

7:00

without any fuss. And

7:02

when you go back to to

7:05

his season itself.

7:07

He had one game of football to his name

7:09

entering twenty twenty two.

7:11

And and that one game was a was a was

7:13

a game way back in around five of twenty

7:15

twenty one. And it and it was against the the team

7:17

that won that year's wouldn't spoon. And then

7:19

I rise at North Melbourne in in that There was no

7:21

great grounding for for him going

7:23

into twenty twenty two. Yeah. Here he is.

7:25

Getting official vote in in

7:27

a North Smith middle pan and I I thought

7:29

that was a very worthy vote for what it's

7:31

worth. I I thought he was outstanding

7:33

all season, obviously, but he

7:35

stood up he stood up early in acting. I

7:37

mean, he was exposed at times in that

7:40

back line where you thought, well, okay. Let's see here

7:42

you go. In the English big moment, and it was just

7:44

not an issue for him. He just did what he

7:46

had been doing all season to

7:48

to just look completely at

7:50

home on the MCG on

7:52

Grand Final Day, as you say, in game number twenty

7:54

four. And probably Rob's Patrick Dangerfield

7:57

potentially of Norman Smith because he

7:59

stole

7:59

that goal

7:59

from him on the goal line. It was amazing though

8:02

to kick his first goal, but I reckon

8:04

maybe of danger had that

8:06

goal maybe. He might have

8:09

stolen the Norm Smith or Pfizer's

8:11

Smith, although they were both

8:13

just terrific. The two of them is

8:15

excellent, of course. As

8:17

we mentioned before, I wanna ask you about

8:19

Joel Sellwood because Let's

8:21

just take a minute to to

8:23

take stock of what an

8:26

incredible player

8:28

he is. This is his record

8:31

at the moment. So three hundred and fifty

8:33

five games, two hundred and forty five games

8:35

is skipper, which is a record, forty

8:37

finals, a record four

8:39

flags, one is a Permian Shipskipper, six

8:41

all this time, all Australian, three

8:43

time best in Ferrist class

8:45

act, so humble and incredible

8:48

human, is this the last

8:50

time that we have seen in

8:52

play? And it's

8:52

a brown light metal runner-up in in all that

8:54

see the two numbers. It also, you

8:56

know, needs to be recognized, the

8:58

three best in fairness. I I

9:00

still feel it is Nat and and

9:02

that's just that's what

9:04

if we know to be the case going

9:06

into twenty twenty two that while

9:08

there were no massive statements I think

9:10

even made internally, there was justice overall

9:14

feeling and and even acceptance that that

9:16

whatever happened this year was was

9:18

going to be it for him. You then get

9:20

to the you know, the day itself and

9:22

and you see the emotion attached to the

9:24

performance, you see the emotion of

9:26

Joel himself net after that the great

9:28

golly kick a banana from about

9:30

forty five out and the reaction of teammates

9:32

around it. You saw the the

9:34

prolonged hug and the prolonged tears

9:36

from Tom Hawkins when they got

9:38

together post siren in those immediate

9:40

frenzied moments when it all sinks in and

9:43

I mean, you saw it. You've interviewed him yourself in

9:45

the in the rooms and and he he sat

9:47

at class act that he didn't want

9:49

anything attached to his own future

9:51

to get in the way of the celebrations

9:53

around that club achievement. So It

9:55

doesn't surprise me him sitting

9:57

on the fence in all the answers that he's

9:59

gives about it. It it doesn't surprise me that Chris got

10:01

even yesterday and that the day after the the

10:03

the the win. saying that, well, I'd like him to

10:05

go on in that. I didn't see anything from the

10:08

game itself that made me think he's still not going to

10:10

be a good player. I I just feel they're

10:12

conditioners now for this this iconic

10:15

person to still make this decision that

10:17

doesn't have him going into twenty twenty three. That that's

10:19

just my take on it now. I mean, did you glean

10:21

anything at all out of what what you saw because you

10:23

were closer to him in the rooms than I was.

10:25

Yeah.

10:25

I mean, even when I asked him post

10:27

match about that goal and the emotion

10:29

that filled out of him. He he

10:31

sort of said to me that the

10:33

day had got to him a little bit,

10:35

that the the emotion of the day, and I

10:37

wondered if it was more the emotion of the

10:39

occasion of it potentially been his

10:41

last game of football that actually had got to

10:43

him. I mean, you look at

10:45

his parents, his family, his

10:48

wife, Brit as well. They were all

10:50

so emotional.

10:52

Probably just that little bit

10:54

not

10:54

too much, but that little bit extra

10:56

emotional that I felt like this could

10:58

be certainly his swan

11:00

song, so to speak, and And

11:02

also that, I guess, you know, he went up

11:04

on stage to get his permission at mettle, and he

11:06

gave his boots to the NAV AFL

11:09

OZKeeper of the year for that was symbolic of

11:11

him potentially hanging up the boots,

11:13

passing on the boots to the next one.

11:15

I mean, whatever he does, he

11:17

he did say that he'll take the

11:19

next sort of weak or so to to talk

11:21

to people around

11:21

him and and people that he trusts to to

11:24

weigh up what he's gonna do next.

11:26

But look either way,

11:27

we should celebrate the career of

11:30

Joel Sellwood and what he's been able

11:32

to achieve just a magnificent

11:34

leader and an incredible

11:36

human being. So whatever

11:38

is next for him, it'd be great to see him

11:40

go on, but I think this is a

11:43

very beautiful way for him to

11:45

go out on top

11:47

with a flag, and and his

11:49

first is a Permian Shipskipper, which would

11:51

be incredible. Yes, I

11:53

agree with all of that, Nat. And then it would be

11:55

no better way to go out should

11:57

that come off

11:59

those deliberations. And as he's

12:01

going about that. And then there are good problems for

12:03

him to have to to wade through that

12:05

after mouthful. The swans have got

12:07

bigger problems as they go through there. debriefings, which

12:09

would have already been started from

12:11

some perspective, and then will happen with

12:13

with player exit meetings throughout the course of of

12:15

as early as today and and this week.

12:17

So yeah, it's a long way back. I'm

12:19

I'm not as dubious about

12:22

the impact of the eighty one point loss on them

12:24

as to what it means for the future. I

12:26

mean, you could make the and I think you could make it

12:28

with some confidence that they got to this

12:30

year's grand final possibly before

12:33

acceptances when it comes to the the

12:35

rebuild of this forty carbon. That

12:37

that is an achievement in itself. I mean, you don't

12:39

know what the, you know, the the trauma

12:41

of of such a loss will do, and

12:43

it's not gonna be easy to wade through. So you've got to

12:45

somehow remove the eighty one point

12:47

demoralizing embarrassment. And it was,

12:49

and people will be embarrassed by performances. They

12:51

they will be embarrassed by some decisions they made

12:53

inclusive of of John Wang one of the coach who

12:55

who did take Blaine for the decision

12:57

to play Sam Reed. Not the first time

12:59

he's taken an injured player in your grand final. He

13:01

took Keller Mills into the the two

13:03

thousand and sixteen grand final. He's third

13:05

grand final loss in a row as a

13:07

coach, two thousand and fourteen, two

13:09

thousand and sixteen, two thousand and twenty two. I

13:11

mean, these these are issues that do

13:13

way up. Now he's such a

13:15

strong person, John, and he will not be thinking about that

13:17

from a personal perspective in North Schutti. But

13:20

it's on my back just to get back to that

13:22

big big day again next year is an It is

13:23

and you know what, Dana, I've never

13:26

seen John Mollinger like I

13:28

did

13:28

in his post match press conference.

13:30

That was hard viewing. I mean, the

13:32

way that he spoken. He just said,

13:34

I made a mistake. And and he talked about

13:36

all of the mistakes, not just the Sam Reed

13:38

one, but match ups the style of game

13:40

they played. And then right at the end,

13:43

a journalist asked him how he was feeling

13:45

and and if he was okay, and

13:47

he was

13:48

about to break down. He needed a moment,

13:50

and and he just said, I feel like

13:52

I've let down my players,

13:54

my coaches, the staff,

13:56

the board, and he

13:58

listed all of that. I've

13:59

never seen John Mommyer like

14:02

that, and I wonder what

14:05

this one will

14:06

do to him because he

14:08

looked

14:09

just absolutely shattered and

14:11

devastated, which, you know, in the aftermath of a game,

14:13

I can understand. But I

14:15

imagine this one in particular is gonna be

14:17

hard for him to to come back from

14:19

and for a lot of those players. I mean, Chad

14:21

Warner and Robbie Fox were

14:23

probably the two best

14:25

swans out there on the

14:27

day that can sort of hold their head

14:29

high, but this one's this one's gonna haunt

14:31

them for a while. Yeah. Well, that's I mean,

14:33

that is interesting that you think there was gonna be a

14:35

long last haunting effect of it. And and

14:37

looking at if that is the case, it it won't surprise

14:39

me because so many big names. And then we

14:41

need to mention them, Keller Mills didn't have a good

14:43

game. I mean, he's captain. He he needs

14:45

to weigh that up. Dane Ramsey

14:47

didn't have a good game. You know, the the other

14:49

iconic leadership person

14:51

at that footy club and for some

14:53

time spoke beautifully

14:55

post game on the on the

14:57

podium at the MCG. In fact, he could I don't think

14:59

it's ever been a better losing

15:01

captain's speech than than than Dane

15:03

Ramsay. So I mean, that's all

15:05

part of it. Heidi,

15:07

that didn't get a kick until nearly half

15:09

time or certainly halfway or

15:11

well progressing in the second quarter before

15:13

he had any form of meaningful

15:15

status attached to his name. So

15:18

the McCartons celebrated

15:20

stories all year had disastrous

15:22

performances. So again, a lot

15:24

of I'm gonna be living with this, but I'm I'm

15:26

not as down about

15:28

what the eighty one point loss in the

15:30

twenty twenty two grand final will do now. I

15:32

mean, again, how do we know? We're not gonna be

15:34

getting to know until midway through next year if

15:36

it really rot them, but that's my take

15:38

on that.

15:38

Yeah. Either way, they're gonna need some time to

15:40

heal this was Callamills after the game. You

15:42

know, we weren't at the standard of what we needed to be

15:44

at Grand Final Day and it's yeah.

15:48

It's it's shattering,

15:50

to be honest. A lot went wrong.

15:52

Today, I am Yeah.

15:56

This there's not much to do other than say

15:58

that we got a lot wrong and we didn't play the way

15:59

we wanted to. So as you can imagine,

16:02

disappointed and absolutely shattered

16:04

was Callam Mills Let's move

16:06

on demo and talk

16:07

about, I guess, the festivities

16:10

around the grand final

16:12

and well, Let's be

16:14

honest. I only went to the MCG for one

16:16

reason on Saturday and that

16:18

was to

16:18

see Robbie Williams perform at

16:20

the g and he absolutely rocked

16:23

it. The grand final entertainment was

16:26

amazing. I have to say

16:28

that was the best grand final

16:30

entertainment. I've

16:32

seen, and I know Lionel Ritchie

16:34

was very, very good. He was right up there. The

16:36

killers were excellent too, but Robbie

16:38

Williams for mine. was next

16:40

level. I texted

16:41

Cal Tumi, who we know is Robbie

16:44

Williams, number one fan during it saying this is

16:45

better than I imagined. And he

16:48

agreed very, very quickly

16:50

with that. So it was incredible. I

16:52

know you missed it. That would've that was a shame,

16:54

David. Yeah.

16:54

It's it's stuck in an outside

16:57

broadcast. They had side the study in that. So I'll take

16:59

your your word there and and believe what you

17:01

just said being the best. Hey, you're pretty

17:03

worked up though, a Friday afternoon when you and I

17:05

spoken again Saturday morning. You you didn't like

17:07

what you saw with the parade

17:09

down the the Yara River on on boat.

17:11

Yeah.

17:11

Well, there were quite a few fans that actually

17:13

missed it. I think there were some miscommunications.

17:16

I'm not entirely sure what

17:18

happened, but the boats sort of

17:20

turned back about three hundred

17:22

meters before they

17:24

were supposed to or there were fans in the wrong spot.

17:26

So a whole bunch of fans who had been waiting

17:28

all morning, missed out on seeing

17:30

the players look, I wasn't a

17:32

fan of the boat, so I absolutely loved

17:35

the the highlights part of it

17:37

and what we sort of had pre

17:39

COVID. But boat

17:41

certainly didn't capture the imagination

17:44

of the prime minister, Anthony

17:46

Albanesi. Take a listen. Tigila,

17:48

I would say having watched

17:50

the parade on the ferry yesterday

17:52

to quote a former

17:54

prime minister, we do need to

17:56

stop the boats.

17:57

That's good by him. I

17:59

quite

17:59

liked it. And that was at the Grand Final

18:02

breakfast. That

18:02

that is very good line from Elba

18:04

there. And that but one other

18:07

talking point out of the game from an off field perspective

18:09

was the the TV audience being

18:11

down. We we've known historically when the

18:13

swans are in a grand final, that that is

18:15

normally guaranteed record

18:17

result from a national perspective, the whole state of

18:19

New South Wales getting behind them. But given

18:21

the game was over early in

18:24

the third quarter, We know those fickle theater

18:27

going New South Wales, people who

18:29

follow sport can just turn off and

18:31

they seem to know. It was a it was a very

18:33

low number. That the first of the, you

18:35

know, of the past three seasons where it hasn't been where

18:37

the country hasn't, in some form, been locked down

18:39

with with COVID as well. had

18:41

a lot of people telling me that they weren't able

18:43

to watch the game because it wasn't being streamed

18:45

on seven plus. Now, I believe a lot of

18:47

people don't have antennas these days, which

18:49

I find --

18:50

Yeah. -- crazy to think. So a lot of people

18:53

wanted to stream it and were unable to

18:55

watch it because there wasn't stream

18:57

available. So maybe that contributed. But on the

18:59

on the plus side demo, one hundred

19:01

thousand and

19:02

thirty four people packed into the

19:05

MC g. I mean,

19:05

after not having a grand final at the

19:08

venue since twenty nineteen,

19:10

that was

19:10

just unbelievable. Yeah. And and and the mood and

19:12

the feel in in that stadium was

19:15

was a really good one wasn't an addendum. It

19:17

was great to see it back full

19:20

fully fully packed one hundred percent capacity, not

19:22

once best seat that

19:24

went unseated and yet to have

19:26

it there after the past two years

19:29

of that famous stadium not being

19:31

able to even be used for for

19:33

large chunks of the past two season because of

19:35

COVID. So, yeah, it it was in that perspective

19:37

that the theater attached to all that was

19:39

was supreme.

19:39

Stay with us here on NFL daily up

19:41

next Brisbane chairperson Andrew Wellington

19:44

backs in Chris Fagan. Plus, the

19:46

silly season is here. Trade Radio

19:48

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19:56

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subscribe so you never miss an

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episode. So, Damon,

20:31

just a couple of other stories to

20:33

touch on quickly before we wrap up on

20:36

NFL daily today. And the first

20:38

one is that Brisbane Lines

20:40

chairperson Andrew Wellington has

20:42

released a statement and basically

20:45

backing in coach

20:48

Chris fagan amongst these serious

20:50

and and pretty disturbing allegations. What

20:52

did you make of the statement?

20:54

They sook, yeah, the weekend to to do that

20:56

now. And and again, that day, as a forty club, we're

20:58

we're trying to get as much information as they can

21:00

too. So it's all on standable. And and what

21:02

we've now seen is that both Brisbane

21:05

lines and and North Melbourne through the words

21:07

of Sonya Hood, the the

21:09

president on the weekend for

21:11

channel seven backing Alice their client as

21:13

well. So the two clubs now are supportive

21:16

publicly of of the people at the

21:18

focus of this this NFL investigation,

21:20

which will take the best part, I

21:22

think, between now and Christmas. Once they

21:24

establish officially the the panel that's

21:26

going to look into the the allegations made by

21:28

indigenous and and torres strait

21:30

islanders, peoples against

21:32

the Hawthorne forty car at at

21:34

LSD classes time as coach. So

21:36

also play out, but now we've got

21:38

the legal situations in play.

21:40

That was a heavily legal word

21:43

statement from Andrew Wellington. And

21:45

backs now, part of the the overall,

21:47

I suppose, backdrop to this

21:49

to this extraordinary investigation that that

21:51

now takes place. Sonya Houdnett, if you

21:53

hadn't seen it. on channel seven that that so

21:56

that us, the class is pretty fragile. As you can

21:58

imagine, we've been really horrified and

22:00

disturbed by the allegations, I think everybody

22:02

has. And we'll be looking to provide

22:04

assistance to all of our people through this in

22:06

Dallas that is one of our people. I'm really

22:08

confident in his side of the story,

22:10

and I'm sure we'll get a chance to hear that through

22:12

the NFL process. So,

22:14

yeah, the backdrop there is both organizations

22:17

fully supporting the the two people in in

22:19

question before it

22:21

starts. Yeah. And I think just to be really mindful that this

22:23

is also and our thoughts are with

22:25

those complainants and

22:26

their families as well because this will be a

22:28

really difficult and challenging time

22:31

for them with these statements

22:33

coming out and and the support that is being

22:36

given to

22:36

Chris Fagan and Alastair Clarkson, who

22:38

of course, as we mentioned, deserve natural

22:41

justice as well in this whole

22:43

process. But our thoughts and just

22:45

wanna be really of of

22:47

how those

22:47

others involved are are feeling

22:49

at this moment. Trade

22:51

radio demo, it all off today. It's gonna be

22:53

a very, very big and busy trade

22:56

period. I mean, we say that every year.

22:57

But the focus, I guess, around

22:59

some of the names. One of the bigger names

23:02

is Josh Duncler who we thought wanted to go to Port

23:04

Adelaide, but now it is the

23:05

Brisbane lion. So that's gonna be

23:07

pretty massive indeed. It

23:09

will be. And bring it all

23:12

to Alista's net

23:14

from basically seven o'clock

23:16

every morning for the next two and a half

23:18

weeks all the way through to seven

23:20

PM. Now, on on trade radio, I'll be

23:22

doing the the three PM shift with

23:24

SOSS, Steven Silvani, and and David Noble

23:26

this year is a new addition to the Trade

23:28

Radio team. And insight that he's going

23:30

to be able to provide initially

23:33

as a high end football administrator at the

23:35

the crows and the the lines and then

23:38

a coach the North Melbourne forty club

23:40

up until midway through

23:42

this particular year, Nat. So

23:44

again, first time he's going to have a public profile

23:46

job. And I'm really keen though just because there's no one

23:48

better in that list management and

23:51

how a trade period is negotiated by

23:53

club. And You're right. This is going to

23:55

be a big trade period. Of all the trade

23:57

period in that was probably last year that none of us thought

23:59

it was gonna be a big

23:59

one going into it. And and it wasn't, but

24:02

this one this one twenty twenty two will

24:04

be. Let's stay tuned to trade

24:06

Radio Sarah Ollie and Josh Gabbletch on

24:08

from eleven till

24:08

twelve and then Caltumi

24:10

and Riley Beverage from twelve

24:12

o'clock. Thank you so much for joining

24:14

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24:21

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