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This is Coach's Corner on the official
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Allfeld Fantasy Podcast. Good
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night. This is wanna hear from the traders and
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we're back from a very
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special coaches corner
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podcast. So this is the first one for our twenty
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twenty three season, what we thought we might do
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is get together some great
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lines. Great lines. Fantasy
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footy together to have a chat about
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the game, about this year, and about this stories in
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the past as well because we've
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called this episode, the runners up, because
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we've got ourselves. A a
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few of the runners up from the last
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handful of years. So I will
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work with each coach individually
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Gillian. We'll start from last year's
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runner-up, and this is James Coaches'
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of Shuckers. James, welcome to the show
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mate. Thanks very much for me.
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Obviously, good to bet here.
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Would have been preferred to be on the the
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winners
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one, but nevertheless, I'll I'll take it.
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Obviously, you had a great season last season.
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Finishing second, And it was
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super close at the
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end. What was your story? Yeah.
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Obviously, last year's second place
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lost to Maddy Matroem know,
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I started off really well, up in
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the top ten quite early on, held my
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ryan, held my ryan, and then made
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a bit of a run for it, late,
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but just couldn't
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catch couldn't catch Maddie. So
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second place we'll have to do. But, yeah,
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on to bigger and better
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things, I guess? We've spoken about it couple
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times, and the common theme for him
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was Zach Merritt. How do how do you feel about
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Zach
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Merritt? Yeah. Very still a bit salty
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if I'm totally honest. You
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know, I remember watching that game. I
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think it was on thirty five points at half time
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or thirty seven. And
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I was thinking, oh, jeez. I'm actually on here.
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This I could I might be in the league.
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And yeah.
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Then five minutes into the third
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quarter goes by. I'm like, oh, okay. You
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know, he's fair enough. He's gonna come back
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ten minutes into the third quarter go by.
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I'm like, this is getting ridiculous. Fifteen
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minutes in, and then I'll turn it off, I think,
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and I went outside. And then I
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looked looked again at the scores. I
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reckon it's about five minutes left to go.
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In in the game, and he had a hundred and
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twenty point five, and this is a
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joke. So and
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then just to top it all off, he had a
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muscle, plus
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six into a plus eight in the last minute
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or something. And, you know,
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that was that was just about it. But Yeah.
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Not he's not he's not my favorite
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player, man. We'll just say that. Awesome.
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Alright. Well, hopefully this year, we you'll be able
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to go that one better. As May
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Cole Holmes, who is the coach
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of Holmes, he's heroes. And
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well, Holmes, you were the runner-up in twenty
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eleven in you had a super
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season as
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well. Yeah. Thanks, Morny. Unfortunately,
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still the fries made haven't been the bread yet.
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So hoping to go one better. At some stage
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then. But yes, twenty twenty one finished
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runner-up to two points behind Ashley's bonus,
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so didn't quite get it done. A
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decline tick mark down the
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wing in the last thirty seconds of the
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game, I think, steal it from me. So yeah.
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Looking forward to having another crack your
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beauty. And we'll go back two
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years prior to that. That was twenty nineteen.
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And John
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Harvey, AFL lonnie
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boy, so we love Harvey lot but
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Army was sitting on top for
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how many weeks mate. I
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think in two thousand nineteen, it was about fourteen
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weeks I just came out of the barn in front and
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held on until the last day of the competition.
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So in that two thousand
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seventeen to two thousand nine appeared, I think
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I spent about twenty five weeks in
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the top one So
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listening to James there, just
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brought back sort of bad memories of how nervous
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you got when you're in France and you're competing
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in your you're sort of trying to hold on.
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But yeah. So that
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was my story in twenty nineteen. I
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had a really good year, and he just
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unfortunately for me. Unfortunately, for
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Craig, I suppose that Jeremy Cameron
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pulled on air the bag a hundred and fifty four
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points I think it was. And Mexico,
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and apparently, on one leg, with a
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hamstring injury, did the same, got a hundred
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and fifty, and that that sort of buried me. I had a
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lead. And all of our products and quit down by
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about thirty points. It was
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huge. And it was an awesome season for you, mate.
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But up there for so long, it was a
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huge effort and we were very proud of
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you as as long as custodians seeing
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one of our own up there. And you've had some
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success as well because like you said there a couple years
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before that, you finished six as well. So
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a couple of hats for you
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in your on your trophy cabinet, your
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fantasy trophy cabinet. As does
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our next man, and this is statesman
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who was the RunnersUp in
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twenty eighteen, which was an interesting
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year then, and that was
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where we saw a we
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saw a tie between Selby
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and also Sherry
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That's right. James. Yeah. Sorry, James. I
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I just tweeted about that this week as well.
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So, yeah, James and Selby
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finished up top. So as Carl put his head up
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there with the number three coming out,
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runner-up in a way he was
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third place, state o mates.
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You've got a couple of hats and that was
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probably your best season that you've seen
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so far.
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Yeah. I was chasing down Selby. Remember
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that afternoon pretty well and
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little half volley to dame beans.
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If it made it the full thirty
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meters and took the mark, it would have
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been mine and mine, but
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two points behind. And then, obviously,
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James come back over the top as well.
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So, technically, third, as homsy
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might say, but closer to the prize
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and he only two points, the
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difference. So quite happy to take that.
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But yes, homes he's got
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two hats as well. So three
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of us on here, but also proud to say
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three Taz manions on the call
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too. That's a good sign. Yeah.
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Also good little fun fact out in the top
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ten with you that years old status. So I was
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nice. Just a little bit behind you. So
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Very good. Behind me, again. Yeah. That
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was cool. And and I can't
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be grumpy that I didn't lose because
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that round I actually scored twenty seven
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forty five, which might be handy
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with the new rules that have come out two warnings.
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Yeah. Well, talk about
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that. So with that tie breaker,
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we won't see a tie like we saw
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before with Selby and James.
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We We'll see. Pretty
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much, the coach who had the highest score
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during the season, so a single round score will
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be the one that is a solid
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fact, which happens a bit more than you
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think as well because there's a few tires inside the
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top hundred as well. So
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-- Yeah. -- that's the determining factor
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now for that. If they still end
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up as tires and that's where we go back
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to the the who registered first
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thing. So that's where it is. Anyway,
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well, Thanks very much for bringing your voice
6:45
because this is a very exciting podcast because
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you guys have been at that pointy
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end
6:49
before. And yeah, I
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think what people would like to know is
6:54
how you can be so good. So let's start
6:56
with the really simple question. We'll start
6:58
with harmony with this. What are the keys to
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ranking highly in AFL Fantasy
7:02
Classic. Yeah. Okay.
7:05
Look, I guess, the first year I was
7:07
kind of successful in twenty seventeen. I
7:09
finished six I didn't really do
7:11
much. And I sort of
7:13
tried to learn a bit from that. So I've
7:15
made a a few points warning
7:17
that I sort of think think about
7:19
now coming into the next season. So these are the
7:21
sorts of things I'm thinking about. I'm
7:23
looking at avoiding injury play
7:26
players. And I say that, you know,
7:28
broadly nearly, you know, recently. But anyway,
7:31
that's it's one thing
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that I'm looking at.
7:36
I'm looking to avoid players that are
7:38
over thirty, so people like Mitch
7:40
Duncan and Aaron Hall. I'd have to see
7:42
some pretty red hot stuff to
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include them. I'm
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looking to limit my mid prices, which
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we sort of might talk a bit more about
7:50
as we talk about players. And
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then just sort of look to jump on the ones that pop.
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I guess not sort of sideways.
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Trading is one that you hear a lot about.
8:00
Avoiding key position players. Another
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one I'm thinking about this year is
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avoiding players at best twenty two. Like, I'm
8:06
hearing a lot of names thrown around. That,
8:10
you know, like, yeah, Greg Clark,
8:12
your Jack Biattails, those sorts of players
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that, you know, unlikely to really be featuring
8:16
week in, week outside. But, yeah, those sorts
8:18
of things that I'm looking at. But
8:20
then, obviously, there's individual
8:23
characteristics you want from the player, like the
8:25
role that they're playing, things like your
8:27
forward or your back, you really want to
8:29
have the players that are running through the midfield
8:31
rather than the key position
8:32
players. Now status quo is someone that's
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played the game for a long time as well. You've
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probably seen the game evolve a fair
8:38
bit. How's has your chain is your
8:40
thinking changed over the years? Yeah.
8:42
I will say the game changed into
8:45
my hand to be fair. So
8:47
I was one of these stupid people way
8:49
back in the day as you say that we're
8:51
marking them down on a on a bit of
8:53
paper as you're watching the game, look at the
8:55
stats and grabbing the paper on Sunday to
8:57
see if your information was
8:59
close to the real information. But
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the the thing that actually changed that probably
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helped me. I had
9:06
this awful thing where I was doing a
9:08
trade on a Sunday night. So the game used
9:10
to open. And before you had reverse
9:12
trades, I just couldn't resist
9:14
to actually get into the
9:16
game, make the changes I need to. And
9:18
of course, I remember Jimmy
9:20
Bartel for a classic example brought
9:22
him in on the Wednesday, perfect
9:24
trade, and then he had
9:26
these pendix out on the Thursday and
9:28
didn't play. So you get AAA
9:31
donut from one of your premiums. So
9:33
the game actually changed to to
9:35
probably reflect the way I
9:37
wanted to play in the reverse trades with
9:39
the greatest thing you've ever done for any of
9:41
us, warning. So thank you very much, sir.
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But look, if I'm looking
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at at one thing and I'm sure everyone's
9:48
heard me talk about rule number
9:50
one before is
9:52
that basic theory that you start with
9:54
thirty green dots you you don't
9:56
do a dossy and try and loop
9:58
your your forty five that's sitting
10:00
on the bench after round one.
10:02
And that's for
10:04
two reasons. Firstly, cash generation.
10:06
You need to make the money to
10:08
complete your team. The sooner you
10:10
complete your team, the sooner
10:12
you get ahead of the the rest of the Coaches',
10:15
and secondly, the buy management. And
10:17
I will say that's always been my moving
10:20
time. So if I've got a really good
10:22
buy structure, got a good
10:24
completed team, I generally
10:26
find that by ranking halves
10:28
during that buy period, It's gonna be
10:30
really interesting this year with with
10:32
the slight changes, having the the the
10:34
four rounds, having the
10:36
extra trade for the four rounds. Of whether
10:38
that brings everyone back to the
10:40
pack or it actually makes it
10:42
better for those that are planned really
10:45
well. Now, homesy, you've
10:47
had a fair bit of success there, and I think
10:49
probably one of the keys to you, you
10:51
get some really good ideas about players from
10:53
watching them and obviously starting up on the
10:55
stats as well. What are some things that
10:57
you would give some advice to people when they
10:59
are looking at their prospective players when
11:01
you're thinking about
11:02
a, looking at them and b looking
11:04
at their numbers? Yeah. It's a good question, Morny.
11:06
I suppose, like, the the number one thing
11:08
we we preach and talk about is just
11:10
watching a lot of foodie you can get caught up a
11:12
lot in purely looking at the
11:14
stats and the stats, although they tell a
11:16
picture, they don't tell the full picture. So
11:18
it's really important to have a look
11:20
and trust your eye and see what you're seeing,
11:22
but also just have a look to see what else
11:24
isn't there as well. So it's the
11:26
preseason. We're coming into all these practice
11:29
now. We see all these reports coming out
11:31
and what we say in preseason games, but it's
11:33
really important to know not only what's
11:35
happening, but who's not there, who might not be in
11:37
full training at the moment, things like that because we
11:39
know that come round one, ninety
11:41
percent of ASL sites are just going to slide back
11:43
into what they've generally done for the last couple of
11:45
years and there's only going to be a few changes here
11:47
and there. So it's just about
11:49
thinking outside the box and making sure
11:51
that you're taking into account all of the
11:53
variables that you're seeing?
11:54
Exactly. No good very good advice,
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Aaron. And James is the
11:59
most recent player to have the
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success out of the crew that we've
12:03
got here. Can you take it back yourself back
12:05
to your pre season last year and
12:07
what were the things that you were doing and then what
12:09
you're gonna do this year and maybe the things that you
12:11
might do ex draw less or whatever you'll
12:13
see in the twenty twenty three
12:14
preseason. Yeah. So preseason
12:17
last year around this
12:19
time. End of January,
12:21
middle of January, just started, like, listening
12:23
to a lot of the content, new
12:25
boys, obviously, listening to
12:27
your team reveals, and things
12:30
like that. And I was I'm not
12:32
a big Excel guy in
12:34
terms of know,
12:37
having everything written down or anything, but I would
12:39
have, you know, plays of
12:41
thought in my head. And
12:44
and I kept heard one one
12:46
thing a few years ago that's really stopping me
12:48
well. And when you're picking you're
12:50
picking that round one line up, it's
12:52
not to it's to
12:54
make your your brookie's dictate
12:56
your structure and that's something that
12:59
I live by when
13:01
picking a a preseason or round one
13:03
team. So, you
13:05
know, we'll we'll change our teams a
13:07
million times before the
13:09
first bounce of round
13:11
one. But it's
13:13
really hard to lock in a a
13:15
team right now, so
13:17
I wasn't I wasn't afraid to
13:19
make bulk changes
13:21
a week before round
13:22
one. And, you
13:25
know, that that's something that,
13:26
you know, when you've done
13:29
a couple months worth of preseason to
13:31
throw it all out and then you
13:33
know, let the rookies dictate your structure
13:35
and and change things around a little bit. I
13:37
wasn't afraid to do that and that stuck me in
13:39
in really good stead. So I'm
13:41
not sure if that's
13:43
the perfect way to do it. But as we all
13:45
know, there's more than one way to do
13:46
it, and that that just works for me while she
13:49
Army. Yeah. Look, I was just gonna
13:51
say morning, I mean, we're planning our round one
13:53
teams. I mean, that's what we're sort of all gearing
13:55
up towards at the moment. One thing we didn't
13:57
mention the areas we're
14:00
looking for value in our players, but
14:02
what's the reason? What is the reason
14:04
why you think the players that you're gonna
14:06
select are gonna take a step up
14:08
this year It might be more opportunity, it
14:10
might be the role, it might be that they had an
14:12
injured score last year, and we feel that they are
14:14
undervalued for
14:14
that. So there's something else to consider.
14:17
Yeah. So we are heating up now
14:19
the the preseason. We've heard this week
14:21
about the the practice match schedule as
14:23
such. So the the the first
14:25
week towards the end of February.
14:27
We're gonna say, really, and of course, it
14:29
match seemed like it's literally what that looks
14:31
like for some some teams are going or some
14:33
clubs are playing against each other with, you
14:35
know, six quarter game and
14:37
different lengths of games, some of
14:39
the four, etcetera. And
14:41
then we'll have the full blown hit
14:44
out in the first week of March.
14:46
So what stuff do you think we need
14:48
to look here status as
14:50
we as we really hit up these
14:52
games. And and what do we see
14:54
different, I guess, about those two works? What are the
14:56
things that you necessarily be looking
14:58
for, especially those guys, as Hami said there,
15:00
that value. What what are we looking
15:02
for in the value in those
15:03
guys? Yeah. It AFL comes down
15:05
to roles. So I I try and
15:07
ensure that I don't get too caught
15:09
up in the intra clubs because
15:11
all of a sudden you got twice the amount
15:13
of midfielders and everyone gets excited of who's
15:16
getting that midfield time. But
15:18
generally, especially the shortened
15:20
pre seasons, The coaches
15:22
actually wanna see how they're
15:24
gonna win games are fully during the true
15:26
season. So I'm looking for
15:28
the value, the role, and what
15:30
they are put is I'm really
15:32
careful and I remember
15:35
last year. We actually did the the
15:37
dummy draft. I think Roy
15:41
might have gone a player at
15:43
number one. I think it might have been Jack
15:45
Steele. And I said the real number
15:47
one pick two is Tom Mitchell.
15:50
About a week after that, we
15:52
actually started hearing that language
15:54
of some forward time.
15:56
And I just jumped off straight
15:58
away because it's the actual words
16:00
from the clubs determining and
16:03
giving us a clue and a hint of what's
16:05
happening. Then you see it in a
16:07
practice game, then you know it's
16:09
true. You avoid those ones.
16:12
And and the key thing that I always do
16:14
is go, I'm trying to find the value
16:16
who ends in the top.
16:18
So they're the ones that I'm trying
16:21
to find because the more
16:23
you plunk in their position
16:25
before the season starts for the less
16:27
you have to find to feel the
16:28
gap. I reckon homes, you would
16:30
totally agree with all of that there even though
16:32
they are words that came out of state those
16:34
mouth away. Doesn't like to agree with along the
16:36
way. But when you're looking at
16:38
these practice games, are there any particular
16:40
clubs that you're looking at seeing how they go?
16:42
And I'm probably leaving you there a little bit
16:44
with the We've got a few new coaches this year.
16:46
And is is some of that part of your
16:48
thinking over watching these cracker
16:49
games? Yeah. Absolutely, dogs. I
16:52
think when you look at those teams
16:54
with the new Coaches', especially
16:56
now they're not in the one real official
16:58
practice match. I think that's essentially
17:00
addressed with us for around one. So
17:02
you would think that those coaches are
17:05
essentially playing their game plan that they really want
17:07
to go within round one where
17:09
maybe you look at a JALONG maybe
17:11
someone like a Melbourne who's who's been there and done
17:13
it before. They're they're not worried. They know exactly
17:15
how their game plan's gonna line up. Maybe they're
17:17
just trying to a fair little bit during
17:19
these games just to see what other sort of tools they
17:21
might be able to have throughout the
17:23
season. But more often than not, I wouldn't really pay
17:25
too much close attention to those. maybe
17:28
just focus more on the side down the bottom of
17:30
the ladder and
17:30
and the
17:31
side with new coaches.
17:32
Purely, now we do have a fair bit watch
17:35
over that time. And there's lots of resources as
17:37
well that we can have a look at, and I'm sure we'll be
17:39
chatting about those throughout the
17:41
podcast as we as we get those
17:43
matches and get some of the information that
17:45
starts through that. But I know you
17:47
said this Jay is pretty much outsides
17:49
aren't can't be locked in and all that sort of thing
17:51
now. But is there anyone you've been playing with your side
17:53
for a few weeks, I'm sure? Is there anyone that hasn't
17:55
left your side yet that you you think
17:57
you'll be rolling with them in round one?
17:59
Yeah. There's
18:01
a shoot for sure.
18:03
I mean, what I
18:05
said, probably, like, right now, I'm
18:07
I'm not trying to make, you know, so
18:10
many changes, but there are definitely a couple of
18:12
candidates who I've got locked
18:14
in. I think you know, you'd
18:16
Josh done clear F1I
18:18
think he's just
18:20
yeah. I don't
18:21
like to use the term block
18:24
as liberally as some people do. But I
18:26
think he's just, yeah,
18:29
new role. So he's kicked off wanna
18:31
harm these points, you know, what's the change? He's
18:33
got he's gonna have that inside
18:35
mid time new club as
18:38
well. So that's two ticks in my
18:40
book, and and we know he's a
18:42
absolute fantasy guy. So
18:44
we do say a little bit of do
18:46
see personally. So
18:49
I think, you know, at at that 109
18:52
price study is, I
18:54
think he's just, you know,
18:56
gonna be a clear number one
18:58
forward, decent amount headed the next
19:00
in in the in that
19:01
pack. So it's not too much to
19:03
pay. I I think he's just locked in for
19:05
that. Who hasn't left your side,
19:07
Sado? Who's been sitting inside?
19:10
team for the last few weeks.
19:11
Jack Macrae. So look at the
19:14
end of the day, looking
19:16
for those people that can finish
19:18
in the top eight for the midfield, top
19:20
six in the in the forwards and
19:22
the defenders. And he's
19:24
one that's proven And
19:28
obviously, the the main blocker and the
19:30
main person that's made him go and
19:32
soak on the wing in Josh
19:34
Dunkley is gone. So the opportunity is
19:36
there. And the same claim could
19:38
be for for bond as well because you
19:40
got Rory Lob. So
19:42
the reality is there's there's
19:44
some opportunity for those top dogs
19:47
to actually be up on
19:49
the the leader
19:49
board. So I'm certainly plunking one of those
19:52
in and at the moment, it's Jack
19:54
McCray.
19:54
Now, Harmie, who is
19:56
sitting in your side or has sat there the
19:58
whole time? Oh, there's a few that I was
20:01
sort of been keen on for a
20:03
long time, and I don't have
20:05
too many doubts about, but I
20:07
suppose. I mean, probably the low hanging fruit
20:09
is your Ashcroft. You
20:11
only had to see what Daygoth did last
20:13
year and hit me maybe sort
20:15
of one of a kind, but I mean Ashcroft is
20:17
gonna have big upside. He's
20:19
sort of in those promotional material
20:21
that come out of Brisbane. I think
20:23
that there's gonna be big points up
20:25
it looks like he's best twenty two there,
20:28
depending not sure quite sure what the role is
20:30
gonna be, but I think that
20:32
most teams are gonna have him
20:34
but I guess someone a little bit different. I like
20:36
Daseke Cameron. I just feel
20:38
like the slow start here last year,
20:40
going to going. Mason Cox being
20:42
very good means that
20:45
he's
20:45
yeah. I think he's again for a good season,
20:48
but we'll we'll see. At
20:50
this point in time, he's been there the whole the whole
20:53
preseason. Homesie, who's sitting there for you on a
20:55
KB Clarks very close to your
20:57
chest. What are what are you
20:58
thinking? Is someone that won't leave your side when that
21:01
rail one lock out comes in. Yeah. Look,
21:03
I'll I'll say, I mean, it's it's
21:05
never really locked because he
21:07
is quite centers, but I'm going to say
21:09
Jack Steele. He fits
21:11
status model that he talks about in trying to
21:13
find those guys that are genuine
21:15
top of the line, but still presenting
21:17
value. So We know it was one hundred and thirteen adjusted
21:19
average in twenty twenty and then it was one hundred
21:21
and twenty in twenty twenty one before having
21:23
that sort of injury affected year last
21:26
year. So Ross, the boss, we know he had
21:28
the history of just letting his midfielders get
21:30
to work, getting you're not fast, marketing
21:32
deals, Michael Barlow. So wouldn't
21:34
surprise me if Jack Steele just puts the boys on
21:36
his shoulders this year and just does come on boys that's
21:38
going. So Jack Steele's death me and one
21:40
at the moment. Well, well, Midfield might
21:42
be a good place to chat about here, thinking
21:45
about a couple of those names. And
21:47
sometimes we like to think about the guys
21:49
that dominated last year, but finding that value
21:51
is always where I like to look and I'm sure
21:53
you guys are in that same position. How
21:56
are you lining up so far
21:58
with that mid Are you,
22:00
you know, three or maybe
22:02
four of those guys that you do believe that are
22:04
gonna be in that top top
22:06
eight or that number is,
22:08
maybe top top ten because it doesn't
22:10
necessarily have to be the best eight
22:12
as you're as you're getting those cards
22:14
because you can as we like to use that throw
22:16
blanket over a few of them there. How many
22:18
guys are you sort of going with there? And a
22:20
lot of those the enterprise
22:22
guys. We'll start with James with that
22:25
one. So at the
22:27
moment, I've got the
22:30
three big dogs. I've
22:32
also got Jack Steele
22:34
at m one. I'm running
22:36
with a t shirt, m
22:38
two. And then I've passed
22:40
in giselle in m
22:43
three. He's there for now.
22:45
He's my boy. I absolutely love him. So
22:47
I didn't get girls bringing him in, but
22:49
then, you know, last night, I made a change. So
22:51
he's there at the moment.
22:54
We'll see what happens if he makes it. But I've
22:56
got a feeling, like, just looking
22:58
looking at my team right now. It
23:00
does feel a little bit light
23:02
because I I'm running down to a couple of mid
23:05
prices, and then I'm running three
23:07
rookies on field. So
23:10
you know, my my defense and
23:12
my forwards and my rock line is looking
23:15
pretty pretty strong, but
23:17
it does feel a little bit
23:19
light at the moment. But
23:21
but yeah. So
23:23
three three guns or one or two
23:25
guns or and
23:27
one under price, because I think
23:29
Simkins at ninety six, price at
23:31
ninety six. So to pick him, I
23:33
really want him doing that 105
23:35
plus think he can do it. You know, he's
23:37
the main main guy in there. I think
23:40
if a team wants to take their
23:42
kangaroos, not that they would, but if
23:44
they were, you know, you're probably going
23:46
to Dave's UniX in my eyes
23:48
before you go to the Simken. So
23:50
he's got a fancy game about
23:51
him. I can see I can see him doing 105
23:55
for sure. Seavu Semken would certainly be AFL well,
23:58
a very lowly owned player would stay along
24:00
the way, so that unique sort of option would
24:02
be good there now. Hamey, is
24:04
your side, what do you think about
24:06
that as a bit of a structure and a bit of a
24:08
line up
24:09
there? Or are you going a little bit
24:11
more vanilla in the midfield Well, look, I've
24:14
I've invested more in a forward line, I
24:16
guess, so I can kind of relate to what James is
24:18
saying. But I
24:20
have not got those hundred
24:23
and ten price players at the moment. I've
24:25
gone a bit cheaper. I
24:27
I've just got Dunkley in a
24:29
forward line as captain c option.
24:32
And then at the
24:34
moment, at Airline, I've got Macrae,
24:36
but that could kind of change. I have flighted steel
24:38
in, but if you just look
24:40
at the teams that have been successful in
24:42
the last five years, those
24:44
hundred and ten priced
24:46
players to start even or even
24:48
higher. They don't really seem to pay
24:51
off as as in
24:53
this opportunity throughout the course of the year to pick
24:55
them up cheaper. So, look, I've really just
24:57
gone bit players that I
24:59
feel a value. I
25:01
did have a few people
25:04
like your LDU green.
25:09
Around that price like Cherilyn
25:11
and yeah. But I've
25:13
sort of gone away from that a little bit, and
25:15
I've just sort of gone higher
25:17
or lower, I suppose. I sort of
25:19
felt like those players that are around that
25:21
eighty five price position.
25:24
I've got to really do something quite different to get
25:26
over a hundred. So I've, you know,
25:28
I've got a preference for that Macrae type and
25:30
then gone a bit cheaper with you, shooting
25:33
in rookies. So, yeah,
25:35
that's where I'm sitting at the moment in the
25:36
midfield. Now, stated, oh, you don't mind
25:39
some value, but how much value
25:41
are some of those mid price players
25:43
like Could you go one
25:45
or two of those guys in
25:47
the in the midfield?
25:49
I effectively have two at the moment
25:51
one's on ground for me
25:54
to to actually see
25:56
in the preseason, and
25:58
he's the movable one. So I've got at the
26:00
moment about three hundred k sitting
26:02
in the bank. So he can go up or down
26:04
depending on what
26:06
actually happens and what we see in the
26:08
preseason. And most importantly, how
26:10
the rookies dictate our structure
26:12
should look like. But at the moment,
26:14
I've got steel, Macrae,
26:17
Mitchell, green and
26:19
sheade. As my five and then filled up with rookies.
26:21
Any love for Whirlpool
26:24
at all? Well,
26:26
it's increasing on the day, to be
26:29
honest. So but I I wanna
26:31
wait and see it. I I
26:33
think it's it's a big question mark to what
26:35
Hawthorne really do. But
26:37
actually hearing the language that
26:39
Sam Mitchell used over
26:41
the past week or so starting
26:44
to indicate indicate
26:46
that he could be the one that
26:49
gets great opportunity this year. So
26:51
in the four hundreds, it's something you
26:53
gotta listen to if he's actually going to
26:55
be around that ninety mark.
26:57
Of an average. And if that's your full time
26:59
mid roll, then that's achievable for
27:02
him.
27:02
Kyle, we're likely to stack our
27:04
forward line a bit, aren't we? Because I think a lot
27:06
of people have already flagged pretty
27:09
much as a bit of value in our
27:11
premium players in the forward line. Let
27:13
alone quite a few guys. I think
27:15
there's a lot of players that we could select in the
27:17
fourth line. It's pretty much where I'm going to
27:18
here. Is that being in a position you
27:21
to to really nail down and think what you can
27:23
do.
27:23
Yeah. Look, if we tell ourselves the narrative
27:26
of why these players evaluate think
27:28
you've got canoeo, you've got
27:29
Toronto, you've got Rosie,
27:31
you've even got to deal in more to extent,
27:34
you've got that partners, you've got all these
27:36
players that you can all tell a story about
27:38
why they're going to improve and most of
27:40
it comes off the back of strong back half
27:42
numbers due to a role
27:44
change. So if we see that consistent at the
27:46
start of twenty twenty three, then
27:48
they all have potential upside and it's
27:50
going to be just a question of how many guys
27:52
can be fit in. So I've
27:54
seen a lot of teams potentially
27:56
playing around with trying to fit four in, maybe they
27:58
fit three in and then one in the midfield. I
28:00
I still haven't figured out exactly how it's gonna
28:02
land yet. A lot of it is gonna be, you know, where we
28:04
get these rookies, but at the moment, I
28:07
can't really talk anyone out of trying to
28:09
stop potentially four of these under rise
28:11
forward premiums because if you can lock for
28:13
for away straight
28:13
away, then you're already gonna be, you know,
28:15
well ahead of trying to complete your claim. So are
28:17
you
28:17
pretty happy if you needed to to to
28:20
have a mid forward in your midfield?
28:22
I don't currently, but
28:25
it's definitely something that has been in
28:27
in my team throughout this price season. But with how it lands
28:29
at the moment, I haven't. But I can
28:31
definitely see the merit. The the
28:33
old argument is that if you've got
28:35
a forward player in the bid field, then the
28:37
bid field is where you're giving up the most points. So
28:39
you're potentially going to fall behind.
28:41
But say, let's compare a kind of rosy.
28:43
If you've got rosy sitting at
28:45
M4 or maybe even potentially at M5,
28:47
the comparison would be at Tom Green.
28:49
So if you're going to fit Tom Green at M4
28:51
or M5 and he's only going to
28:53
go a hundred or maybe even
28:56
slightly more in. And Rose is going to go
28:58
ninety ninety eight to one hundred, then you're not really
29:00
giving up any points and you've backed yourself a
29:02
forward taper where you're just
29:04
gonna have trade time grid out at some
29:04
point. So that's the way I see it. I know
29:07
different coaches say it differently, but, yeah, that's the
29:09
way I'm sort of looking
29:10
at it. Yes, I just got a question on that. Hainz,
29:13
how would you compare Connor
29:15
Row z to R
29:18
martial? Because this is something I did the other
29:20
day. I was looking at my team and I thought,
29:22
I'm I'm a little bit I must have been listening
29:24
to Staro too long because
29:27
I'm star the question that pulled out loud and midfield, I
29:29
thought I took
29:31
Rosie out, and I moved Asi Krammer into
29:33
my forward line and brought in Ramesh, and I
29:35
just kind of felt quite a good
29:37
brother. Yeah. Look, mate, I think
29:39
with everything we're hearing out of Saint
29:40
Kilda, I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm
29:43
a I've
29:46
got Cholera at the but I'm not one hundred percent sold.
29:48
I think no one could really be
29:50
truly confident. We've only seen it
29:53
for the back half of last season
29:55
and his scores are kind of propped up
29:57
by going to beat the last two games.
29:59
And if it comes out next year that he's
30:01
the or this season that he's the main target and
30:03
all of a sudden teams are starting to end for
30:05
him a lot more. I don't think going to get as much easyball as what
30:07
he got in the back half of twenty twenty
30:09
two when Port was struggling. So
30:12
at J. H. Jeff in there, out of Fit Oly wines,
30:14
out of Bud is improving. You
30:16
just don't really know how that's going to line
30:18
up. So from that point of view, Hami, I'm
30:20
taking Marshall over. Rody?
30:23
Raul Marshall, he's a
30:25
a, sorry, a rock that we all have
30:27
been very much thinking about So
30:29
everyone currently have Royal Marshall in their sides at
30:31
the moment. Yep. Everyone
30:34
nodding. And recently. Yeah.
30:36
So what's your other rack looking
30:38
like? We'll start with Ali. You've got your
30:40
mark off mute there. Who's your other
30:42
rack at the moment? Look,
30:45
it's it has moved around
30:47
a little bit, warning, but
30:51
the moment, it's Grundy.
30:54
Oh, I like it. I
30:57
like it. You're excited about what he might be
30:59
able to do with his new aspiring
31:01
partner there in Max
31:02
gone? I'm just
31:04
not a hundred percent sold yet
31:06
on English and Marshall.
31:09
Because I think everyone's talking them up as being
31:11
the number one rock with pinch hitter, but
31:14
until I see that, I'm
31:16
not convinced. Look, Grandi's
31:20
there at the minute he has been in and out a little
31:22
bit, but I think that if
31:24
you look at the upside, he's
31:26
been a hundred and twenty. And if
31:28
you look at the downside, he hasn't been much below where he
31:31
is right now. So I think that there's a bit of
31:33
potential.
31:33
James, what's your rock light
31:35
up
31:35
looking like in a minute?
31:39
Yes. Similar to
31:41
Hotpey in the fact that I'm
31:43
not huge on English at the
31:45
moment. I I would like to,
31:47
you know, have a look. I don't think he can
31:49
at his price point, nearly
31:51
102I don't think he's gonna
31:54
outperform that greatly. If
31:56
he does it all, I I probably got
31:58
him regressing a little bit in my
32:01
mind. So
32:03
I do think Rowan Marshall will be
32:05
the number one rock by
32:08
year's end by some distance. And
32:11
then I've got at the moment, I've got Darcy Cameron
32:14
sitting in there, but
32:16
I'm not really happy
32:19
with that kind of
32:21
structure, not not to say I don't think he he's
32:23
a bad pick because I think he will be
32:25
a big. And just
32:28
look for cheaper
32:31
guy to put their hand up, but I don't think
32:33
that's gonna happen. That's probably more wishful
32:36
wishful
32:36
thinking. Stato, is the
32:38
rock lineup causing you any dramas so
32:40
far?
32:40
Or are you are you feeling okay about
32:43
it? Feeling okay about it at the
32:45
moment. I've got Rowan Marshall and Darcy Cameron.
32:47
So the plan is there. I've gone for two that
32:49
I think AAA value.
32:52
Mind you, in the
32:54
rankings, I've got Tim English one,
32:56
but we know he's got a bit of an injury
32:58
at the moment. Also
33:00
concerned that his match up is
33:02
gone and grumpy, round
33:04
one. So the daseke
33:06
Cameron option gives me value, but also gives
33:08
me the opportunity to once
33:12
we under stand what's happening in the rack
33:14
line. And I think it's a little bit confusing, to
33:16
be honest, that I can
33:18
make that move into the
33:20
forward line and bring who
33:22
I think should be the other top
33:24
two rackman. So it gives me a bit
33:26
of flexibility, but the
33:28
key thing is its
33:30
value, and you're only spending one
33:32
point five million there
33:34
at the moment. And
33:36
is the potential that I've got two of the top
33:38
three?
33:38
I want to play again. I reckon I
33:40
would've had a pretty good crack at the record. They
33:42
were greatness. She goes to the the milk
33:45
bar and comes out with five hurdles
33:47
and I'm on the
33:47
front. It has been a proof glitch and a
33:50
pleasure to spend time with the centurians
33:52
getting to hear their stories in
33:54
their
33:54
words. So it was just a bus a good place
33:56
to go.
33:56
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Nothing wrong with it
34:11
at me time.
34:14
I hit up Twitter to ask for some questions
34:16
for people that might have some if
34:18
we want better insight than what we actually give
34:20
them on our normal podcast. So
34:23
Here's one from Maddie, coach of lads,
34:25
lads that says, what's the right amount of
34:27
mid prices this year in
34:30
your opinion? It says. So see if
34:32
we get a couple here. Let's go with
34:34
Kyle because mid price
34:36
madness is obviously a thing that
34:38
has been coined
34:40
before, but Mid process look a little bit more attractive than what I and I have
34:42
done in the past. But what is that sort of magic
34:44
number? May not be a
34:45
number, but what's your gut
34:47
feel on that?
34:48
Yeah. It's interesting, right. I think as Fantasy Coaches, we
34:50
kind of get stuck into a bit
34:52
of recent bias and have a look at what
34:54
worked last year and just automatically think
34:58
that that's going to work this year. And the data and the
35:00
fact suggests that last year, we just had an
35:02
unprecedented amount of mid prices
35:04
that turned out to be those
35:06
competition within keep it fixed for
35:08
us. So you're George Hewitt, you're
35:10
James Dislie, you're Will
35:12
Brody, all these type of plays even like a
35:14
brand improves on his
35:16
journey, all of these players ended up paying
35:18
mid prices that you could keep for large
35:20
portions of the season because they were putting up
35:22
top six numbers when the reality is
35:24
like Fader likes to say, more
35:26
often than not, we don't get that amount of mid
35:28
prices. There's generally a few
35:30
that really pop and pay
35:32
off. So Unfortunately, at this point in time, we can't really give you an
35:34
answer on that. But what I will say is that
35:36
generally as a rule I like to play is that I
35:38
don't like to
35:40
start with many of them and I like to trade into them once I've seen
35:42
them. But that can also be
35:44
a bit of a downside. I'm a bit
35:46
behind those people that do pick them and start
35:47
them, but I think
35:50
little bit of a safer way to play? Well,
35:52
this question probably flows on a little
35:54
bit from that. And as
35:56
a long term player status,
35:58
you might be interested
36:00
in answering this one with Kim's question,
36:02
do the extra trades allow for more
36:04
aggressive trading this year? And if so,
36:06
does this impact your starting squad
36:08
structure. So I guess when we're talking about the extra trades, we've got extra round. So you've
36:11
initially you've already got two
36:13
extra trades there. But
36:15
you've also got an extra buy round and that
36:18
round is going to be easier than what we've
36:20
ever seen in the past because it's still a best
36:22
aid in you still have your three trades for that with second
36:24
of the buy around throughout
36:25
that. So we've got fifty trades this year. What
36:27
do you reckon?
36:30
Yeah. It's a really interesting question. And I'll
36:32
probably go to the the
36:35
set point of saying, that
36:37
the mid prices are the risky
36:40
ones. So the reality, unless an
36:42
injury hits, you're you're
36:44
you're primos
36:46
with value and your rookies aren't the ones that are gonna end
36:48
your season. But if you go
36:50
six mid prices and they all
36:52
fail and
36:54
there's more mid prices that fail than succeed. That's
36:56
when your season has ended, if
36:58
that makes sense to you. So
37:01
I tried to get the structure right,
37:03
and I will say, what's the right level
37:05
of mid prices? The
37:08
amount that the rookies determine their needs to
37:10
be is actually the right answer
37:12
in my mind. So if we
37:14
get sweet f a rookies and
37:16
end up
37:18
with five of them that are playing
37:20
round one, you don't actually have eight sitting
37:22
on your bench with red dots, hoping
37:24
they get selected round two. You've
37:27
got to try and get the the thirty green
37:30
dots. And therefore, you need to make a
37:32
sacrifice. And that's when I say Tom
37:34
Green is movable. So he's hundred
37:36
and fifty k. So if
37:38
he turns into, for example, a
37:41
a Whirlpool plus another
37:43
Whirlpool price player, So a
37:46
rookie and Tom Green is
37:48
nine hundred and fifty k
37:50
that two mid prices fit in with
37:51
him. That's the right structure because
37:53
that's how we get cash generation. James?
37:56
Yeah. I just got back on
37:59
that. Point start out with, you know, if your sixth mid
38:02
processing your team fail,
38:04
yes, your season's ruined. But
38:09
if you do pick,
38:11
you know, the handful, what number that
38:13
is? I don't know if it's
38:15
different each year. Last year, like Holmes said, we saw a
38:17
lot succeed. This year, we might see
38:20
more. This year, we might see less. We
38:22
just don't know. But if you
38:24
pick them, that's that's
38:26
how you win the car. That's what I believe. I don't
38:27
know. Do you agree or describe
38:30
it? You you get the you get the
38:32
right one. And and that's the key thing. And and it's about opportunity and
38:34
role. So you look at a
38:36
dom sheade. He he is not
38:38
a topite midfielder.
38:40
But he's a mid price player that
38:42
looks predominantly the plane inside mid.
38:45
He's got twenty five
38:47
to thirty points upside. That's
38:50
a big tick. But if
38:52
you take the risky ones hoping for
38:54
a breakout, but they're doing the same
38:56
role as they did last year, but there's
38:58
no true indicator other than they're a year older. They're the ones
39:01
that are gonna burn
39:02
you. I say it's a different CRM.
39:05
Just with your thirty gray dot theory, how are you
39:08
gonna swing your magnets around to get Lloyd make it
39:10
off right?
39:13
Alright. Well, and the the weird one is I think we
39:15
should be aiming for twenty nine green dots
39:18
this year because our who's
39:20
an r three at the moment that's on
39:22
the
39:23
radar? That's why I kind of wanted to bring it up, to be honest. Right? It's
39:26
probably a good discussion point. Are we pretty
39:28
happy with rolling with a rolling donut of
39:30
r three if nothing presents itself
39:32
between
39:33
down, round one? Absolutely. And I know everyone's heading to
39:35
the Ryan Samsung. The problem with Ryan
39:38
Samsung, he plays the first game of
39:40
the
39:40
round. So he's actually
39:42
not the right r three for
39:44
any of
39:45
us. It's a tricky way to work him
39:47
out. James feel most of last
39:49
season didn't roll with that larger Holland's
39:52
Daina and Ford
39:53
one. Yeah. Yeah. So I
39:55
had the emergency on the Nick
39:57
Martin one thirty And,
40:00
you know, I'm no rookie
40:02
expert or anything. Although last year,
40:04
I did now my rupees, I will quietly
40:08
say. But Yeah. I've
40:10
decided to to bank that one thirty.
40:12
And from what I was hearing from all the
40:14
the the rookie experts, you know,
40:16
Holland's is was so close.
40:18
He's gonna go to game next week. He's gonna
40:20
go to game the week
40:22
after. So I heard that for probably fourteen or
40:24
fifteen
40:24
weeks, and then he then he got on field
40:26
for me. But, you
40:28
know, I think in
40:30
the rolling lockout era as well, it's
40:32
become so much more important to have
40:34
that access to the red dot where
40:37
you can you you know,
40:39
play not play a
40:41
rookie rulelet and
40:44
just kind kind of have the second
40:46
goal of it. It's almost like having a second
40:48
goal at your captain's seat with your
40:50
VC. And, you know,
40:52
that's a bit of political
40:54
subjects with the the rolling lock
40:56
yet, I don't. But, you know, it
40:58
definitely helps me a lot last
41:00
year. So You know,
41:02
there there's good things and bad things from it.
41:04
You know, you thirty current thoughts. Keep
41:06
them, like, all cash. You're twenty nine.
41:08
You can access more points on field. In theory,
41:11
it doesn't always work. I remember as
41:13
well, you know, I missed out on a
41:15
shelly hundred and had to fill a field of forty
41:17
one as well. So it
41:19
goes both ways.
41:19
Yeah. And I think at the end of the
41:22
day, the rule one is
41:24
about ensuring maximizing
41:26
cash generation. And
41:28
sometimes having that flexibility is spot
41:30
on. And I think the
41:32
reality is the the
41:34
freeman defender slap
41:36
winger last year probably would have
41:38
been or ended up being the best red
41:40
dot to start with.
41:40
Alright. Let's have a couple of quick fire
41:43
questions here. Navigant Post is
41:45
asking, Do we pay up for docety?
41:48
And I'm normally a no on this,
41:50
but Royce starting to swing me around a
41:52
little bit mainly because of the gap that he could
41:54
have on that next says anyone
41:56
along that line of thinking with
41:57
me? Yeah. Look, Marni, I'm I'm a fan.
41:59
Status shot me down pre Christmas, and then he
42:01
came around after Christmas once he actually looked at
42:03
it. But Shady, that is look, Ed,
42:06
it really comes down to it.
42:07
You say Docker is being ten to fifteen points
42:09
clear of the next best offender. That's the only
42:11
way you can really justify
42:14
Because if he comes out price at one hundred and ten and he goes at one hundred
42:16
or ninety five for the first couple rounds of
42:18
the season that he's going to drop.
42:21
A lot in price and everyone in the comp is not only is
42:23
going to get in significantly cheaper and
42:25
that is at the end of the day, the aim of
42:27
the game. So tell yourself the
42:30
narrative and you believe that midfield role
42:32
is real and that extra responsibility, the
42:34
full praise is going to seem to be able
42:36
to go one hundred and fifteen plus and even maybe hold his
42:38
price or increase a little bit, that he's going to be a
42:40
fantastic starting take place. There's
42:42
arguments for both
42:43
ways, Army. If I
42:46
if I play a lot in the radar, would you be confident
42:48
in captain him? Coming high
42:50
with
42:51
him, mister
42:51
Captain? Not me
42:54
personally. No. And just with this one, this is
42:56
sort of getting to that point of
42:58
premiums as
43:00
value. The reality
43:02
I I just don't see that he's
43:04
actually got upside. So I think
43:06
there's a a fair chance that
43:08
his price goes down and gets
43:10
snafled by by the other one. So I've
43:13
actually called him in
43:15
the in the draft
43:17
kit as my boo man for the year
43:19
because I think in draft, people will
43:21
pick him up in the first
43:24
round because he's so far ahead on
43:26
average over and above anyone else
43:28
in the defense. That the reality
43:30
they're missing out on a one hundred and ten, one hundred and
43:32
fifteen mid filter for
43:34
potentially one hundred to
43:36
one hundred and for defender.
43:38
I think you're still gonna be
43:40
potentially the number one defender, but
43:42
I don't wanna pay that price
43:44
where I think it's his peak.
43:46
Him potentially being better than last year is just
43:49
so hard to see. Can
43:51
he match
43:52
it? It possibly could.
43:55
If I was gonna spend that amount of money,
43:57
I'd probably be putting it on Jack Steele, I
43:59
reckon, because while he's priced at
44:02
one ten, He had the
44:04
injury interrupted season last
44:06
year, and I can see him going
44:07
up, and I could have no hesitation
44:09
in capping him
44:12
too.
44:12
Now, I hope AFL talked a little bit
44:14
about the forward line before, but with my data, talking about
44:16
mid price forwards, and a popular
44:18
peak has been Toby McLean
44:21
as well. With
44:22
all those, let's call them a
44:24
little bit underpriced premiums that we could potentially
44:27
have in that forward line. Are
44:29
you gonna sort of dodge any
44:31
mid price action in the forward line
44:33
because of that? But in saying
44:35
that, is tote mcclean in your current zone
44:37
as well? Toby McLean is AFL my
44:39
side as f four. So I've
44:41
got Dunkley Toronto COGS and
44:44
then McLean
44:46
and effectively rookies following
44:48
that. Of course, we need to
44:50
ensure that we get the right amount
44:52
of rookies, but I feel safer
44:56
in the forward line. There might be slower but that we
44:59
get enough rookies to actually fill
45:01
those spots. So yes, McLean. I
45:03
just think he's a
45:06
great value. We talked about the opportunities, the build before.
45:08
And I think we all remember
45:10
his last game in the final and
45:12
what his history has been prior. So
45:16
for four hundred thousand, I'm happy to spend that. So it's four hundred and
45:18
one
45:19
thousand. Nice. Now a couple of questions
45:21
just to finish off here. A bit of an
45:23
age old type question. About
45:25
some structure stuff is
45:28
three brands and three rookies in the
45:30
back line, which I'm worried about
45:32
the rookies. So I'm not too keen on
45:34
that one, but or two premium, two mid priced, and
45:37
two rookies because you've probably got that
45:39
that Salem and Yo type option there that
45:41
you could be running this year. Your
45:43
d three and d four, which a few people are
45:45
doing on Ocalvin will talk that up a little bit
45:47
on the podcast this
45:48
week. So, yeah, what are your thoughts
45:50
on sort of a back line structure holmesy. Yeah.
45:53
Look, it's it's really gonna be dictated by
45:55
the rookies. I know people are gonna hate saying
45:57
that, but it's it's dead
46:00
right. A little fun fact. So in twenty twenty one, when I was
46:02
successful and came runner-up, I started
46:04
three rookies in defense, I started
46:08
nine he's in total on the ground. So when some people were going more good
46:10
price, I was able to come second
46:12
by starting so many
46:13
rookies. So it really it
46:15
like we say, it's it's different every season, and I'm
46:18
not just gonna peak nine rookies this year
46:20
just because I did that in twenty twenty
46:22
one. But really going to be
46:24
dependent on how many rookies we get. So at the
46:26
moment, I think in defense, the way I'm kind of
46:28
reading it, I think we might get a
46:30
Gimmee from the Eagles and then
46:32
we might there's a bit of talk about Weddle from Hawthorne and
46:34
then maybe a Wilmont and
46:36
someone else might pop up, but I think
46:38
we'll start three of those guys
46:40
on field, you're pretty much asking for
46:42
danger if one of them gets wrong because then you're
46:44
in a lot of stress. So I think the two
46:46
twenty two to do quite a common
46:48
structure at the moment and want to look at, but it'll really just
46:50
wait on preseason
46:51
games, Tommy. It depends who they
46:54
are. Those those meat prices
46:56
doesn't it? It really depends who they are. Like, if you're
46:58
looking at running a Nick Coffee or probably
47:00
less keloid,
47:02
but If it's something like LEO who's injury free
47:04
and playing through the midfield, then I'm I'm
47:06
a lot more confident on it. So
47:09
I don't know. There's there's that defense line
47:11
is really difficult because there's actually not
47:13
that many good value options that I can see.
47:15
I mean, you look at
47:18
Kona McKinnon. Is he even best twenty two of the
47:20
lines? We got AFL idea. He's only just turned
47:22
up and we don't know
47:24
where he's gonna apply AFL so.
47:26
I'm just not that
47:28
confident in all of those back line
47:29
players? I
47:30
hate the defense right now, to
47:33
be honest. I said that at the homes
47:35
here the other day. I just do not like it whatsoever. So it's
47:37
the one section of
47:40
my team that I've just
47:42
got great with, so therefore, they all become a preseason watch
47:44
role and
47:46
ensuring that I've got the right mix
47:48
of rookies mid prices and
47:52
maybe a premium because I I just don't like where
47:54
they are. I probably end up with docety
47:57
AFL and junkies by the
47:59
end of
48:00
it. But, yeah, just uncomfortable
48:02
with it at the moment. It's line
48:04
with greatest concern. Yeah. I think it's the
48:06
one that is causing gotta cause quite a few headaches
48:08
right up until that first lockout, I reckon,
48:10
until we See some of those rookies. Alright?
48:12
This one from Valkor and
48:15
Q. One word answers from
48:17
these. Day cost versus young,
48:19
let's start with Army. Davos, I
48:22
think, is less competition,
48:24
better role. With a decent
48:26
amount of points between
48:28
them, Navy
48:29
Close. I think that I still have day cost. I think
48:31
the potential upside is higher, James. Yeah.
48:34
That's great. Day cost.
48:38
It's very tough. You know, I
48:41
think the upside will
48:42
be a little bit hard. I think I expect him to
48:44
score a couple more points. He's a couple more
48:48
shape
48:48
up. Yeah. So Kips and Josh. Homesy?
48:51
Yeah.
48:51
I'll I'll say to ACOS, Bob. I'm just
48:54
gonna say
48:56
I'd I'd I'm not sure either of them are going to be that top six, top eight
48:58
percent that we need them to be this year. I
49:00
think we're banking a lot on them just
49:02
getting better by being a year
49:04
older. So that's where I'm kind
49:06
of at with them at the moment. But yes, I think they
49:08
cost just purely because of lack of
49:10
competition and being on that three metal back
49:12
line having a lot of mouths
49:14
to
49:14
feed. State I agree? Yeah.
49:15
Whatever homes he
49:16
says I agree with, mate, he's the
49:19
god. No. It's
49:19
good. And that's a thing and it's a good point
49:22
there. With homes
49:24
he'd I think going back to what stated I was talking
49:26
about with those – with the back
49:28
line and a lot of pliers this year, I
49:30
think we are looking for
49:32
that almost break AFL a little
49:34
bit more than what we ever have across our teams because they almost haven't been
49:36
those obvious blokes that
49:38
are, you know, that cheaper
49:41
price. You got your gift in trips last year, without a
49:43
lucky needle like that in the past where
49:45
their prices have been. Significantly
49:48
lower from what their output ends up as. But at
49:50
the moment, I'm finding it hard to pick the guys
49:52
that will end up being in that top line
49:55
are coming in at that
49:57
cheaper price. So next player
49:59
that Vikoram Q had here, all the
50:01
players was Andy
50:03
Brayshore versus Oliver if you're starting one of those
50:05
guys. Let's go reverse all of this.
50:07
So stay tight.
50:08
If I was picking
50:09
one of the two, I'll I'll
50:11
go Oliver. Just it's got a longer
50:13
proven record. That's and this is probably that going back
50:15
to that point of those one ten type
50:18
guys that Maybe about
50:20
where they are and possibly some people are seeing
50:22
some regression
50:22
here. But if you're picking one, Kyle, who would it
50:24
be? Yeah. I've I've been a lock in
50:26
the safety of Clari at that time
50:28
of year just the body of work that is done
50:31
with brochure and having done it once.
50:33
But probably brochure has the
50:35
higher upside out of the two, but
50:37
I'm going to bank the
50:38
safety. James? I'll
50:39
go. I'll go. Right.
50:40
Sure. I think pretty tight.
50:46
I
50:46
just think he could be could be anything. So
50:51
Prachael? And, Harmy, I won't
50:53
be picking
50:54
either one, but my love and so I had
50:56
a choice about
50:57
it too. And last one
50:59
here was a butters versus Rosie. And I
51:01
think Rosie has been the the simple
51:04
option for a lot of people. But is there
51:06
a world
51:08
Honey, that ballers is better than
51:10
Rosie. How many games were
51:12
we
51:12
talking over the course of the season? Like,
51:17
we're banking on them both staying out there. I don't know. Look,
51:20
Rosie, just, I'd say.
51:24
Yeah. James?
51:26
I'll take
51:27
I'll take him by a couple of points.
51:30
Nice. What about your
51:32
homes eat?
51:33
Yes. I'm going to back in ROCE purely
51:35
just for the fifty five percent to
51:37
sixty percent CBA average at the end compared to
51:39
but as thirty five percent to forty percent I
51:42
just think just to see if that meant to a role. But, yeah, that
51:44
it's very hard to split them at the moment, and
51:46
it it could be a play to go but it's just because
51:48
everyone's going rosy. And Seifman?
51:51
Stay on
51:52
brand butters. Of course. Alright.
51:54
Well, thank you guys. Really appreciate
51:57
your time here today. I It's
52:00
a a great time to be able to chat to the
52:02
great minds that you are and plenty of
52:04
insight has come out of this. One last
52:06
little tip on the way out
52:08
then is people are building their teams. We've got about six weeks to go.
52:10
So, well, stay there.
52:12
You've been there a long time. You're playing
52:14
this game longer than some
52:16
people have even been
52:18
alive. So tell us, mate,
52:20
what's a little tip that you can give coaches,
52:22
especially Coaches' that might be
52:24
starting out. In their first or second year coaching now with their
52:26
fancy team over this next
52:28
six
52:28
weeks. I I think
52:30
the first thing is see
52:33
find a way that you can enjoy the game.
52:35
So part of part
52:38
of what's kept me in it is I love
52:40
it. It's It's great fun. Do
52:43
your research but listen
52:45
to people. And and I think this
52:47
is AAA life lesson too is you need
52:49
to have the ability to hear all different
52:51
and ideas and then put
52:53
a little slant on
52:56
yourself for your own character, the own
52:58
way, and what your
53:00
strengths are. Have fun with it. That's the first thing you should do.
53:02
Holmes are your
53:03
tip?
53:03
Yeah. Mine kind
53:04
of goes off the back of
53:05
stato as well. Mine's a little bit more serious on
53:08
someone that
53:10
likes to or a lot of content and sort of listen to a lot of the
53:12
podcasts and read
53:12
Twitter. But at the
53:14
end of the day, it's sort of about
53:16
finding guides
53:18
that you trust or content producers that you trust and really
53:20
sort of listening to what they say and trying to
53:22
put your own spin on that. So I was
53:25
pretty big on on twenty twenty one when I went well, I was I was looking to
53:27
stay at one pod pod and drop off because he doesn't really know
53:29
this part. You know, he was one of the main
53:32
reasons that I did so
53:34
well just sort of listening to what he was
53:36
preaching and going sort of down that
53:38
road. So although there's a lot of people
53:40
out there on Twitter at the moment, they'd like to give their
53:42
opinion, not everyone's you deflated
53:43
equally, so you need to make sure that you're listening to
53:45
the right people. What
53:46
do you
53:47
reckon, James? What's something that people should be
53:49
thinking about over these last few weeks before
53:51
we head into round
53:52
one? I think if you
53:55
if you just start
53:57
out, you know, pick the players
53:59
pick the players you like. That's that's gonna go
54:01
a long AFL, I think. You
54:04
know, at my I said earlier, I sent kids in
54:06
my team, and I just absolutely love
54:08
him. And that's, you know, a little bit
54:10
of the reason why he's in there. And you make
54:12
sure, you know, with your captain's
54:14
seat, you've got two or three
54:16
options every week that you think
54:19
can go that one twenty.
54:22
So when you're starting out picking your
54:24
team, you know, pick a pick a couple of
54:26
big dogs who you think can can go one twenty and bank in nice
54:28
safe captain's score would be
54:30
very
54:31
helpful. Beauty and Hamie
54:32
everyone's probably said
54:33
everything. But if you
54:36
got any other last little bits of advice? Not just
54:38
back in the research that you've done. I mean,
54:40
don't don't be afraid that if you're
54:42
keen on
54:44
a player, Just pick it. You know, if you've done the
54:46
research and you like them, there's no reason
54:48
why you shouldn't be just because
54:50
everybody else's is
54:52
choosing a vanilla player. So I guess that's one b and yeah.
54:54
On the same boat. If someone pops
54:56
their head up at the last minute, don't
54:59
get in, I mean, if you if you haven't been looking
55:01
at them for the past twenty
55:03
six weeks, then putting them in at the last
55:05
minute isn't gonna help you
55:08
cause. So Just back in the research you've done and be confident with what you've
55:09
gotten. There's plenty of trace throughout the course of the
55:12
season. We'll help you,
55:14
Jordan Clark. Now
55:18
thank you guys and we can catch
55:20
all of you guys on Twitter. I'll tag that up
55:22
in a post when that comes out
55:24
because if you're not already following you guys.
55:27
You should be because you do offer some great insights and can get part of the
55:29
conversation as well, which is what it's all about. I
55:31
think that's the the beauty of
55:34
this and and seeing you guys as part of the community is a really awesome
55:36
thing. And I think myself,
55:38
I appreciate it, but I reckon a lot of
55:40
Coaches' out there certainly doing
55:42
a little shout out there for Karl with his work that he
55:44
does with the pod pod. That's been fantastic
55:46
as well, some different voices and
55:49
different things and also status who's being part of
55:51
the pod pod and also the
55:53
draft doctors. So the draft
55:55
kit is out very shortly if it's
55:57
not already out and that's something
55:59
that I really recommend people to do
56:02
because Draft is another fun way of
56:04
obviously playing the game, but it's also really good
56:06
for your thinking about your fantasy
56:08
classic and I think stated you've been
56:10
someone that's really said that over the years as
56:12
well? Yes. Certainly have. Because one thing
56:15
you do when you're setting up your draft
56:17
is you manage the rankings. So part of the process I do each
56:19
year is once all the rankings are completed, so
56:21
that's every one of the
56:24
draft doctors. I put
56:26
them together and actually have a draft
56:28
doctor's ranking, then I actually put the
56:30
price against some for salary
56:32
cap, the expected average based
56:34
on the last three or four years and
56:36
actually find out who's potentially got
56:38
some value. You've mapped that up with
56:40
role, form, fitness, all that type of
56:42
stuff and it's certainly does help you
56:44
starting
56:44
to. Yeah.
56:44
And I give a draft doctor's draft
56:46
kit as well for that reason. Having a
56:49
look at where the guys have
56:51
ranked all the midfielders,
56:54
defenders, and backs and forwards it.
56:56
Because it sort of just confirms what I
56:58
think with some ways if you
57:00
got other Coaches' quite a lot about the
57:01
game, and they've got players ranked
57:04
alongside where you think they should
57:06
be. Thanks guys. You are a
57:08
bunch of legends and we appreciate
57:10
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57:12
podcast. On our first coaches corner for the
57:14
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57:26
year. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thanks
57:28
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