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0:03

This is Coach's Corner on the official

0:06

Allfeld Fantasy Podcast. Good

0:08

night. This is wanna hear from the traders and

0:10

we're back from a very

0:13

special coaches corner

0:15

podcast. So this is the first one for our twenty

0:18

twenty three season, what we thought we might do

0:20

is get together some great

0:22

lines. Great lines. Fantasy

0:24

footy together to have a chat about

0:26

the game, about this year, and about this stories in

0:28

the past as well because we've

0:30

called this episode, the runners up, because

0:33

we've got ourselves. A a

0:35

few of the runners up from the last

0:37

handful of years. So I will

0:39

work with each coach individually

0:41

Gillian. We'll start from last year's

0:43

runner-up, and this is James Coaches'

0:45

of Shuckers. James, welcome to the show

0:47

mate. Thanks very much for me.

0:50

Obviously, good to bet here.

0:52

Would have been preferred to be on the the

0:54

winners

0:54

one, but nevertheless, I'll I'll take it.

0:57

Obviously, you had a great season last season.

0:59

Finishing second, And it was

1:01

super close at the

1:02

end. What was your story? Yeah.

1:05

Obviously, last year's second place

1:07

lost to Maddy Matroem know,

1:10

I started off really well, up in

1:12

the top ten quite early on, held my

1:14

ryan, held my ryan, and then made

1:17

a bit of a run for it, late,

1:19

but just couldn't

1:21

catch couldn't catch Maddie. So

1:23

second place we'll have to do. But, yeah,

1:26

on to bigger and better

1:27

things, I guess? We've spoken about it couple

1:29

times, and the common theme for him

1:31

was Zach Merritt. How do how do you feel about

1:33

Zach

1:34

Merritt? Yeah. Very still a bit salty

1:36

if I'm totally honest. You

1:38

know, I remember watching that game. I

1:40

think it was on thirty five points at half time

1:42

or thirty seven. And

1:45

I was thinking, oh, jeez. I'm actually on here.

1:47

This I could I might be in the league.

1:49

And yeah.

1:52

Then five minutes into the third

1:54

quarter goes by. I'm like, oh, okay. You

1:56

know, he's fair enough. He's gonna come back

1:58

ten minutes into the third quarter go by.

2:00

I'm like, this is getting ridiculous. Fifteen

2:03

minutes in, and then I'll turn it off, I think,

2:05

and I went outside. And then I

2:07

looked looked again at the scores. I

2:09

reckon it's about five minutes left to go.

2:12

In in the game, and he had a hundred and

2:14

twenty point five, and this is a

2:16

joke. So and

2:18

then just to top it all off, he had a

2:21

muscle, plus

2:23

six into a plus eight in the last minute

2:25

or something. And, you know,

2:27

that was that was just about it. But Yeah.

2:30

Not he's not he's not my favorite

2:32

player, man. We'll just say that. Awesome.

2:35

Alright. Well, hopefully this year, we you'll be able

2:37

to go that one better. As May

2:39

Cole Holmes, who is the coach

2:41

of Holmes, he's heroes. And

2:44

well, Holmes, you were the runner-up in twenty

2:46

eleven in you had a super

2:48

season as

2:48

well. Yeah. Thanks, Morny. Unfortunately,

2:51

still the fries made haven't been the bread yet.

2:53

So hoping to go one better. At some stage

2:55

then. But yes, twenty twenty one finished

2:58

runner-up to two points behind Ashley's bonus,

3:00

so didn't quite get it done. A

3:03

decline tick mark down the

3:05

wing in the last thirty seconds of the

3:06

game, I think, steal it from me. So yeah.

3:08

Looking forward to having another crack your

3:11

beauty. And we'll go back two

3:13

years prior to that. That was twenty nineteen.

3:15

And John

3:16

Harvey, AFL lonnie

3:19

boy, so we love Harvey lot but

3:21

Army was sitting on top for

3:23

how many weeks mate. I

3:25

think in two thousand nineteen, it was about fourteen

3:27

weeks I just came out of the barn in front and

3:30

held on until the last day of the competition.

3:32

So in that two thousand

3:34

seventeen to two thousand nine appeared, I think

3:36

I spent about twenty five weeks in

3:38

the top one So

3:40

listening to James there, just

3:43

brought back sort of bad memories of how nervous

3:45

you got when you're in France and you're competing

3:47

in your you're sort of trying to hold on.

3:49

But yeah. So that

3:51

was my story in twenty nineteen. I

3:53

had a really good year, and he just

3:56

unfortunately for me. Unfortunately, for

3:58

Craig, I suppose that Jeremy Cameron

4:00

pulled on air the bag a hundred and fifty four

4:03

points I think it was. And Mexico,

4:06

and apparently, on one leg, with a

4:08

hamstring injury, did the same, got a hundred

4:10

and fifty, and that that sort of buried me. I had a

4:12

lead. And all of our products and quit down by

4:14

about thirty points. It was

4:15

huge. And it was an awesome season for you, mate.

4:17

But up there for so long, it was a

4:19

huge effort and we were very proud of

4:21

you as as long as custodians seeing

4:24

one of our own up there. And you've had some

4:26

success as well because like you said there a couple years

4:28

before that, you finished six as well. So

4:30

a couple of hats for you

4:32

in your on your trophy cabinet, your

4:34

fantasy trophy cabinet. As does

4:36

our next man, and this is statesman

4:38

who was the RunnersUp in

4:41

twenty eighteen, which was an interesting

4:43

year then, and that was

4:45

where we saw a we

4:47

saw a tie between Selby

4:51

and also Sherry

4:54

That's right. James. Yeah. Sorry, James. I

4:56

I just tweeted about that this week as well.

4:58

So, yeah, James and Selby

5:00

finished up top. So as Carl put his head up

5:02

there with the number three coming out,

5:05

runner-up in a way he was

5:07

third place, state o mates.

5:10

You've got a couple of hats and that was

5:12

probably your best season that you've seen

5:14

so far.

5:16

Yeah. I was chasing down Selby. Remember

5:18

that afternoon pretty well and

5:20

little half volley to dame beans.

5:23

If it made it the full thirty

5:25

meters and took the mark, it would have

5:27

been mine and mine, but

5:29

two points behind. And then, obviously,

5:32

James come back over the top as well.

5:34

So, technically, third, as homsy

5:37

might say, but closer to the prize

5:39

and he only two points, the

5:41

difference. So quite happy to take that.

5:43

But yes, homes he's got

5:45

two hats as well. So three

5:47

of us on here, but also proud to say

5:50

three Taz manions on the call

5:51

too. That's a good sign. Yeah.

5:53

Also good little fun fact out in the top

5:55

ten with you that years old status. So I was

5:57

nice. Just a little bit behind you. So

6:00

Very good. Behind me, again. Yeah. That

6:02

was cool. And and I can't

6:04

be grumpy that I didn't lose because

6:06

that round I actually scored twenty seven

6:08

forty five, which might be handy

6:10

with the new rules that have come out two warnings.

6:13

Yeah. Well, talk about

6:14

that. So with that tie breaker,

6:16

we won't see a tie like we saw

6:18

before with Selby and James.

6:20

We We'll see. Pretty

6:22

much, the coach who had the highest score

6:24

during the season, so a single round score will

6:26

be the one that is a solid

6:27

fact, which happens a bit more than you

6:30

think as well because there's a few tires inside the

6:32

top hundred as well. So

6:33

-- Yeah. -- that's the determining factor

6:35

now for that. If they still end

6:37

up as tires and that's where we go back

6:39

to the the who registered first

6:41

thing. So that's where it is. Anyway,

6:43

well, Thanks very much for bringing your voice

6:45

because this is a very exciting podcast because

6:47

you guys have been at that pointy

6:49

end

6:49

before. And yeah, I

6:52

think what people would like to know is

6:54

how you can be so good. So let's start

6:56

with the really simple question. We'll start

6:58

with harmony with this. What are the keys to

7:00

ranking highly in AFL Fantasy

7:02

Classic. Yeah. Okay.

7:05

Look, I guess, the first year I was

7:07

kind of successful in twenty seventeen. I

7:09

finished six I didn't really do

7:11

much. And I sort of

7:13

tried to learn a bit from that. So I've

7:15

made a a few points warning

7:17

that I sort of think think about

7:19

now coming into the next season. So these are the

7:21

sorts of things I'm thinking about. I'm

7:23

looking at avoiding injury play

7:26

players. And I say that, you know,

7:28

broadly nearly, you know, recently. But anyway,

7:31

that's it's one thing

7:34

that I'm looking at.

7:36

I'm looking to avoid players that are

7:38

over thirty, so people like Mitch

7:40

Duncan and Aaron Hall. I'd have to see

7:42

some pretty red hot stuff to

7:44

include them. I'm

7:46

looking to limit my mid prices, which

7:48

we sort of might talk a bit more about

7:50

as we talk about players. And

7:52

then just sort of look to jump on the ones that pop.

7:54

I guess not sort of sideways.

7:57

Trading is one that you hear a lot about.

8:00

Avoiding key position players. Another

8:02

one I'm thinking about this year is

8:04

avoiding players at best twenty two. Like, I'm

8:06

hearing a lot of names thrown around. That,

8:10

you know, like, yeah, Greg Clark,

8:12

your Jack Biattails, those sorts of players

8:14

that, you know, unlikely to really be featuring

8:16

week in, week outside. But, yeah, those sorts

8:18

of things that I'm looking at. But

8:20

then, obviously, there's individual

8:23

characteristics you want from the player, like the

8:25

role that they're playing, things like your

8:27

forward or your back, you really want to

8:29

have the players that are running through the midfield

8:31

rather than the key position

8:32

players. Now status quo is someone that's

8:34

played the game for a long time as well. You've

8:37

probably seen the game evolve a fair

8:38

bit. How's has your chain is your

8:40

thinking changed over the years? Yeah.

8:42

I will say the game changed into

8:45

my hand to be fair. So

8:47

I was one of these stupid people way

8:49

back in the day as you say that we're

8:51

marking them down on a on a bit of

8:53

paper as you're watching the game, look at the

8:55

stats and grabbing the paper on Sunday to

8:57

see if your information was

8:59

close to the real information. But

9:01

the the thing that actually changed that probably

9:04

helped me. I had

9:06

this awful thing where I was doing a

9:08

trade on a Sunday night. So the game used

9:10

to open. And before you had reverse

9:12

trades, I just couldn't resist

9:14

to actually get into the

9:16

game, make the changes I need to. And

9:18

of course, I remember Jimmy

9:20

Bartel for a classic example brought

9:22

him in on the Wednesday, perfect

9:24

trade, and then he had

9:26

these pendix out on the Thursday and

9:28

didn't play. So you get AAA

9:31

donut from one of your premiums. So

9:33

the game actually changed to to

9:35

probably reflect the way I

9:37

wanted to play in the reverse trades with

9:39

the greatest thing you've ever done for any of

9:41

us, warning. So thank you very much, sir.

9:43

But look, if I'm looking

9:46

at at one thing and I'm sure everyone's

9:48

heard me talk about rule number

9:50

one before is

9:52

that basic theory that you start with

9:54

thirty green dots you you don't

9:56

do a dossy and try and loop

9:58

your your forty five that's sitting

10:00

on the bench after round one.

10:02

And that's for

10:04

two reasons. Firstly, cash generation.

10:06

You need to make the money to

10:08

complete your team. The sooner you

10:10

complete your team, the sooner

10:12

you get ahead of the the rest of the Coaches',

10:15

and secondly, the buy management. And

10:17

I will say that's always been my moving

10:20

time. So if I've got a really good

10:22

buy structure, got a good

10:24

completed team, I generally

10:26

find that by ranking halves

10:28

during that buy period, It's gonna be

10:30

really interesting this year with with

10:32

the slight changes, having the the the

10:34

four rounds, having the

10:36

extra trade for the four rounds. Of whether

10:38

that brings everyone back to the

10:40

pack or it actually makes it

10:42

better for those that are planned really

10:45

well. Now, homesy, you've

10:47

had a fair bit of success there, and I think

10:49

probably one of the keys to you, you

10:51

get some really good ideas about players from

10:53

watching them and obviously starting up on the

10:55

stats as well. What are some things that

10:57

you would give some advice to people when they

10:59

are looking at their prospective players when

11:01

you're thinking about

11:02

a, looking at them and b looking

11:04

at their numbers? Yeah. It's a good question, Morny.

11:06

I suppose, like, the the number one thing

11:08

we we preach and talk about is just

11:10

watching a lot of foodie you can get caught up a

11:12

lot in purely looking at the

11:14

stats and the stats, although they tell a

11:16

picture, they don't tell the full picture. So

11:18

it's really important to have a look

11:20

and trust your eye and see what you're seeing,

11:22

but also just have a look to see what else

11:24

isn't there as well. So it's the

11:26

preseason. We're coming into all these practice

11:29

now. We see all these reports coming out

11:31

and what we say in preseason games, but it's

11:33

really important to know not only what's

11:35

happening, but who's not there, who might not be in

11:37

full training at the moment, things like that because we

11:39

know that come round one, ninety

11:41

percent of ASL sites are just going to slide back

11:43

into what they've generally done for the last couple of

11:45

years and there's only going to be a few changes here

11:47

and there. So it's just about

11:49

thinking outside the box and making sure

11:51

that you're taking into account all of the

11:53

variables that you're seeing?

11:54

Exactly. No good very good advice,

11:57

Aaron. And James is the

11:59

most recent player to have the

12:01

success out of the crew that we've

12:03

got here. Can you take it back yourself back

12:05

to your pre season last year and

12:07

what were the things that you were doing and then what

12:09

you're gonna do this year and maybe the things that you

12:11

might do ex draw less or whatever you'll

12:13

see in the twenty twenty three

12:14

preseason. Yeah. So preseason

12:17

last year around this

12:19

time. End of January,

12:21

middle of January, just started, like, listening

12:23

to a lot of the content, new

12:25

boys, obviously, listening to

12:27

your team reveals, and things

12:30

like that. And I was I'm not

12:32

a big Excel guy in

12:34

terms of know,

12:37

having everything written down or anything, but I would

12:39

have, you know, plays of

12:41

thought in my head. And

12:44

and I kept heard one one

12:46

thing a few years ago that's really stopping me

12:48

well. And when you're picking you're

12:50

picking that round one line up, it's

12:52

not to it's to

12:54

make your your brookie's dictate

12:56

your structure and that's something that

12:59

I live by when

13:01

picking a a preseason or round one

13:03

team. So, you

13:05

know, we'll we'll change our teams a

13:07

million times before the

13:09

first bounce of round

13:11

one. But it's

13:13

really hard to lock in a a

13:15

team right now, so

13:17

I wasn't I wasn't afraid to

13:19

make bulk changes

13:21

a week before round

13:22

one. And, you

13:25

know, that that's something that,

13:26

you know, when you've done

13:29

a couple months worth of preseason to

13:31

throw it all out and then you

13:33

know, let the rookies dictate your structure

13:35

and and change things around a little bit. I

13:37

wasn't afraid to do that and that stuck me in

13:39

in really good stead. So I'm

13:41

not sure if that's

13:43

the perfect way to do it. But as we all

13:45

know, there's more than one way to do

13:46

it, and that that just works for me while she

13:49

Army. Yeah. Look, I was just gonna

13:51

say morning, I mean, we're planning our round one

13:53

teams. I mean, that's what we're sort of all gearing

13:55

up towards at the moment. One thing we didn't

13:57

mention the areas we're

14:00

looking for value in our players, but

14:02

what's the reason? What is the reason

14:04

why you think the players that you're gonna

14:06

select are gonna take a step up

14:08

this year It might be more opportunity, it

14:10

might be the role, it might be that they had an

14:12

injured score last year, and we feel that they are

14:14

undervalued for

14:14

that. So there's something else to consider.

14:17

Yeah. So we are heating up now

14:19

the the preseason. We've heard this week

14:21

about the the practice match schedule as

14:23

such. So the the the first

14:25

week towards the end of February.

14:27

We're gonna say, really, and of course, it

14:29

match seemed like it's literally what that looks

14:31

like for some some teams are going or some

14:33

clubs are playing against each other with, you

14:35

know, six quarter game and

14:37

different lengths of games, some of

14:39

the four, etcetera. And

14:41

then we'll have the full blown hit

14:44

out in the first week of March.

14:46

So what stuff do you think we need

14:48

to look here status as

14:50

we as we really hit up these

14:52

games. And and what do we see

14:54

different, I guess, about those two works? What are the

14:56

things that you necessarily be looking

14:58

for, especially those guys, as Hami said there,

15:00

that value. What what are we looking

15:02

for in the value in those

15:03

guys? Yeah. It AFL comes down

15:05

to roles. So I I try and

15:07

ensure that I don't get too caught

15:09

up in the intra clubs because

15:11

all of a sudden you got twice the amount

15:13

of midfielders and everyone gets excited of who's

15:16

getting that midfield time. But

15:18

generally, especially the shortened

15:20

pre seasons, The coaches

15:22

actually wanna see how they're

15:24

gonna win games are fully during the true

15:26

season. So I'm looking for

15:28

the value, the role, and what

15:30

they are put is I'm really

15:32

careful and I remember

15:35

last year. We actually did the the

15:37

dummy draft. I think Roy

15:41

might have gone a player at

15:43

number one. I think it might have been Jack

15:45

Steele. And I said the real number

15:47

one pick two is Tom Mitchell.

15:50

About a week after that, we

15:52

actually started hearing that language

15:54

of some forward time.

15:56

And I just jumped off straight

15:58

away because it's the actual words

16:00

from the clubs determining and

16:03

giving us a clue and a hint of what's

16:05

happening. Then you see it in a

16:07

practice game, then you know it's

16:09

true. You avoid those ones.

16:12

And and the key thing that I always do

16:14

is go, I'm trying to find the value

16:16

who ends in the top.

16:18

So they're the ones that I'm trying

16:21

to find because the more

16:23

you plunk in their position

16:25

before the season starts for the less

16:27

you have to find to feel the

16:28

gap. I reckon homes, you would

16:30

totally agree with all of that there even though

16:32

they are words that came out of state those

16:34

mouth away. Doesn't like to agree with along the

16:36

way. But when you're looking at

16:38

these practice games, are there any particular

16:40

clubs that you're looking at seeing how they go?

16:42

And I'm probably leaving you there a little bit

16:44

with the We've got a few new coaches this year.

16:46

And is is some of that part of your

16:48

thinking over watching these cracker

16:49

games? Yeah. Absolutely, dogs. I

16:52

think when you look at those teams

16:54

with the new Coaches', especially

16:56

now they're not in the one real official

16:58

practice match. I think that's essentially

17:00

addressed with us for around one. So

17:02

you would think that those coaches are

17:05

essentially playing their game plan that they really want

17:07

to go within round one where

17:09

maybe you look at a JALONG maybe

17:11

someone like a Melbourne who's who's been there and done

17:13

it before. They're they're not worried. They know exactly

17:15

how their game plan's gonna line up. Maybe they're

17:17

just trying to a fair little bit during

17:19

these games just to see what other sort of tools they

17:21

might be able to have throughout the

17:23

season. But more often than not, I wouldn't really pay

17:25

too much close attention to those. maybe

17:28

just focus more on the side down the bottom of

17:30

the ladder and

17:30

and the

17:31

side with new coaches.

17:32

Purely, now we do have a fair bit watch

17:35

over that time. And there's lots of resources as

17:37

well that we can have a look at, and I'm sure we'll be

17:39

chatting about those throughout the

17:41

podcast as we as we get those

17:43

matches and get some of the information that

17:45

starts through that. But I know you

17:47

said this Jay is pretty much outsides

17:49

aren't can't be locked in and all that sort of thing

17:51

now. But is there anyone you've been playing with your side

17:53

for a few weeks, I'm sure? Is there anyone that hasn't

17:55

left your side yet that you you think

17:57

you'll be rolling with them in round one?

17:59

Yeah. There's

18:01

a shoot for sure.

18:03

I mean, what I

18:05

said, probably, like, right now, I'm

18:07

I'm not trying to make, you know, so

18:10

many changes, but there are definitely a couple of

18:12

candidates who I've got locked

18:14

in. I think you know, you'd

18:16

Josh done clear F1I

18:18

think he's just

18:20

yeah. I don't

18:21

like to use the term block

18:24

as liberally as some people do. But I

18:26

think he's just, yeah,

18:29

new role. So he's kicked off wanna

18:31

harm these points, you know, what's the change? He's

18:33

got he's gonna have that inside

18:35

mid time new club as

18:38

well. So that's two ticks in my

18:40

book, and and we know he's a

18:42

absolute fantasy guy. So

18:44

we do say a little bit of do

18:46

see personally. So

18:49

I think, you know, at at that 109

18:52

price study is, I

18:54

think he's just, you know,

18:56

gonna be a clear number one

18:58

forward, decent amount headed the next

19:00

in in the in that

19:01

pack. So it's not too much to

19:03

pay. I I think he's just locked in for

19:05

that. Who hasn't left your side,

19:07

Sado? Who's been sitting inside?

19:10

team for the last few weeks.

19:11

Jack Macrae. So look at the

19:14

end of the day, looking

19:16

for those people that can finish

19:18

in the top eight for the midfield, top

19:20

six in the in the forwards and

19:22

the defenders. And he's

19:24

one that's proven And

19:28

obviously, the the main blocker and the

19:30

main person that's made him go and

19:32

soak on the wing in Josh

19:34

Dunkley is gone. So the opportunity is

19:36

there. And the same claim could

19:38

be for for bond as well because you

19:40

got Rory Lob. So

19:42

the reality is there's there's

19:44

some opportunity for those top dogs

19:47

to actually be up on

19:49

the the leader

19:49

board. So I'm certainly plunking one of those

19:52

in and at the moment, it's Jack

19:54

McCray.

19:54

Now, Harmie, who is

19:56

sitting in your side or has sat there the

19:58

whole time? Oh, there's a few that I was

20:01

sort of been keen on for a

20:03

long time, and I don't have

20:05

too many doubts about, but I

20:07

suppose. I mean, probably the low hanging fruit

20:09

is your Ashcroft. You

20:11

only had to see what Daygoth did last

20:13

year and hit me maybe sort

20:15

of one of a kind, but I mean Ashcroft is

20:17

gonna have big upside. He's

20:19

sort of in those promotional material

20:21

that come out of Brisbane. I think

20:23

that there's gonna be big points up

20:25

it looks like he's best twenty two there,

20:28

depending not sure quite sure what the role is

20:30

gonna be, but I think that

20:32

most teams are gonna have him

20:34

but I guess someone a little bit different. I like

20:36

Daseke Cameron. I just feel

20:38

like the slow start here last year,

20:40

going to going. Mason Cox being

20:42

very good means that

20:45

he's

20:45

yeah. I think he's again for a good season,

20:48

but we'll we'll see. At

20:50

this point in time, he's been there the whole the whole

20:53

preseason. Homesie, who's sitting there for you on a

20:55

KB Clarks very close to your

20:57

chest. What are what are you

20:58

thinking? Is someone that won't leave your side when that

21:01

rail one lock out comes in. Yeah. Look,

21:03

I'll I'll say, I mean, it's it's

21:05

never really locked because he

21:07

is quite centers, but I'm going to say

21:09

Jack Steele. He fits

21:11

status model that he talks about in trying to

21:13

find those guys that are genuine

21:15

top of the line, but still presenting

21:17

value. So We know it was one hundred and thirteen adjusted

21:19

average in twenty twenty and then it was one hundred

21:21

and twenty in twenty twenty one before having

21:23

that sort of injury affected year last

21:26

year. So Ross, the boss, we know he had

21:28

the history of just letting his midfielders get

21:30

to work, getting you're not fast, marketing

21:32

deals, Michael Barlow. So wouldn't

21:34

surprise me if Jack Steele just puts the boys on

21:36

his shoulders this year and just does come on boys that's

21:38

going. So Jack Steele's death me and one

21:40

at the moment. Well, well, Midfield might

21:42

be a good place to chat about here, thinking

21:45

about a couple of those names. And

21:47

sometimes we like to think about the guys

21:49

that dominated last year, but finding that value

21:51

is always where I like to look and I'm sure

21:53

you guys are in that same position. How

21:56

are you lining up so far

21:58

with that mid Are you,

22:00

you know, three or maybe

22:02

four of those guys that you do believe that are

22:04

gonna be in that top top

22:06

eight or that number is,

22:08

maybe top top ten because it doesn't

22:10

necessarily have to be the best eight

22:12

as you're as you're getting those cards

22:14

because you can as we like to use that throw

22:16

blanket over a few of them there. How many

22:18

guys are you sort of going with there? And a

22:20

lot of those the enterprise

22:22

guys. We'll start with James with that

22:25

one. So at the

22:27

moment, I've got the

22:30

three big dogs. I've

22:32

also got Jack Steele

22:34

at m one. I'm running

22:36

with a t shirt, m

22:38

two. And then I've passed

22:40

in giselle in m

22:43

three. He's there for now.

22:45

He's my boy. I absolutely love him. So

22:47

I didn't get girls bringing him in, but

22:49

then, you know, last night, I made a change. So

22:51

he's there at the moment.

22:54

We'll see what happens if he makes it. But I've

22:56

got a feeling, like, just looking

22:58

looking at my team right now. It

23:00

does feel a little bit light

23:02

because I I'm running down to a couple of mid

23:05

prices, and then I'm running three

23:07

rookies on field. So

23:10

you know, my my defense and

23:12

my forwards and my rock line is looking

23:15

pretty pretty strong, but

23:17

it does feel a little bit

23:19

light at the moment. But

23:21

but yeah. So

23:23

three three guns or one or two

23:25

guns or and

23:27

one under price, because I think

23:29

Simkins at ninety six, price at

23:31

ninety six. So to pick him, I

23:33

really want him doing that 105

23:35

plus think he can do it. You know, he's

23:37

the main main guy in there. I think

23:40

if a team wants to take their

23:42

kangaroos, not that they would, but if

23:44

they were, you know, you're probably going

23:46

to Dave's UniX in my eyes

23:48

before you go to the Simken. So

23:50

he's got a fancy game about

23:51

him. I can see I can see him doing 105

23:55

for sure. Seavu Semken would certainly be AFL well,

23:58

a very lowly owned player would stay along

24:00

the way, so that unique sort of option would

24:02

be good there now. Hamey, is

24:04

your side, what do you think about

24:06

that as a bit of a structure and a bit of a

24:08

line up

24:09

there? Or are you going a little bit

24:11

more vanilla in the midfield Well, look, I've

24:14

I've invested more in a forward line, I

24:16

guess, so I can kind of relate to what James is

24:18

saying. But I

24:20

have not got those hundred

24:23

and ten price players at the moment. I've

24:25

gone a bit cheaper. I

24:27

I've just got Dunkley in a

24:29

forward line as captain c option.

24:32

And then at the

24:34

moment, at Airline, I've got Macrae,

24:36

but that could kind of change. I have flighted steel

24:38

in, but if you just look

24:40

at the teams that have been successful in

24:42

the last five years, those

24:44

hundred and ten priced

24:46

players to start even or even

24:48

higher. They don't really seem to pay

24:51

off as as in

24:53

this opportunity throughout the course of the year to pick

24:55

them up cheaper. So, look, I've really just

24:57

gone bit players that I

24:59

feel a value. I

25:01

did have a few people

25:04

like your LDU green.

25:09

Around that price like Cherilyn

25:11

and yeah. But I've

25:13

sort of gone away from that a little bit, and

25:15

I've just sort of gone higher

25:17

or lower, I suppose. I sort of

25:19

felt like those players that are around that

25:21

eighty five price position.

25:24

I've got to really do something quite different to get

25:26

over a hundred. So I've, you know,

25:28

I've got a preference for that Macrae type and

25:30

then gone a bit cheaper with you, shooting

25:33

in rookies. So, yeah,

25:35

that's where I'm sitting at the moment in the

25:36

midfield. Now, stated, oh, you don't mind

25:39

some value, but how much value

25:41

are some of those mid price players

25:43

like Could you go one

25:45

or two of those guys in

25:47

the in the midfield?

25:49

I effectively have two at the moment

25:51

one's on ground for me

25:54

to to actually see

25:56

in the preseason, and

25:58

he's the movable one. So I've got at the

26:00

moment about three hundred k sitting

26:02

in the bank. So he can go up or down

26:04

depending on what

26:06

actually happens and what we see in the

26:08

preseason. And most importantly, how

26:10

the rookies dictate our structure

26:12

should look like. But at the moment,

26:14

I've got steel, Macrae,

26:17

Mitchell, green and

26:19

sheade. As my five and then filled up with rookies.

26:21

Any love for Whirlpool

26:24

at all? Well,

26:26

it's increasing on the day, to be

26:29

honest. So but I I wanna

26:31

wait and see it. I I

26:33

think it's it's a big question mark to what

26:35

Hawthorne really do. But

26:37

actually hearing the language that

26:39

Sam Mitchell used over

26:41

the past week or so starting

26:44

to indicate indicate

26:46

that he could be the one that

26:49

gets great opportunity this year. So

26:51

in the four hundreds, it's something you

26:53

gotta listen to if he's actually going to

26:55

be around that ninety mark.

26:57

Of an average. And if that's your full time

26:59

mid roll, then that's achievable for

27:02

him.

27:02

Kyle, we're likely to stack our

27:04

forward line a bit, aren't we? Because I think a lot

27:06

of people have already flagged pretty

27:09

much as a bit of value in our

27:11

premium players in the forward line. Let

27:13

alone quite a few guys. I think

27:15

there's a lot of players that we could select in the

27:17

fourth line. It's pretty much where I'm going to

27:18

here. Is that being in a position you

27:21

to to really nail down and think what you can

27:23

do.

27:23

Yeah. Look, if we tell ourselves the narrative

27:26

of why these players evaluate think

27:28

you've got canoeo, you've got

27:29

Toronto, you've got Rosie,

27:31

you've even got to deal in more to extent,

27:34

you've got that partners, you've got all these

27:36

players that you can all tell a story about

27:38

why they're going to improve and most of

27:40

it comes off the back of strong back half

27:42

numbers due to a role

27:44

change. So if we see that consistent at the

27:46

start of twenty twenty three, then

27:48

they all have potential upside and it's

27:50

going to be just a question of how many guys

27:52

can be fit in. So I've

27:54

seen a lot of teams potentially

27:56

playing around with trying to fit four in, maybe they

27:58

fit three in and then one in the midfield. I

28:00

I still haven't figured out exactly how it's gonna

28:02

land yet. A lot of it is gonna be, you know, where we

28:04

get these rookies, but at the moment, I

28:07

can't really talk anyone out of trying to

28:09

stop potentially four of these under rise

28:11

forward premiums because if you can lock for

28:13

for away straight

28:13

away, then you're already gonna be, you know,

28:15

well ahead of trying to complete your claim. So are

28:17

you

28:17

pretty happy if you needed to to to

28:20

have a mid forward in your midfield?

28:22

I don't currently, but

28:25

it's definitely something that has been in

28:27

in my team throughout this price season. But with how it lands

28:29

at the moment, I haven't. But I can

28:31

definitely see the merit. The the

28:33

old argument is that if you've got

28:35

a forward player in the bid field, then the

28:37

bid field is where you're giving up the most points. So

28:39

you're potentially going to fall behind.

28:41

But say, let's compare a kind of rosy.

28:43

If you've got rosy sitting at

28:45

M4 or maybe even potentially at M5,

28:47

the comparison would be at Tom Green.

28:49

So if you're going to fit Tom Green at M4

28:51

or M5 and he's only going to

28:53

go a hundred or maybe even

28:56

slightly more in. And Rose is going to go

28:58

ninety ninety eight to one hundred, then you're not really

29:00

giving up any points and you've backed yourself a

29:02

forward taper where you're just

29:04

gonna have trade time grid out at some

29:04

point. So that's the way I see it. I know

29:07

different coaches say it differently, but, yeah, that's the

29:09

way I'm sort of looking

29:10

at it. Yes, I just got a question on that. Hainz,

29:13

how would you compare Connor

29:15

Row z to R

29:18

martial? Because this is something I did the other

29:20

day. I was looking at my team and I thought,

29:22

I'm I'm a little bit I must have been listening

29:24

to Staro too long because

29:27

I'm star the question that pulled out loud and midfield, I

29:29

thought I took

29:31

Rosie out, and I moved Asi Krammer into

29:33

my forward line and brought in Ramesh, and I

29:35

just kind of felt quite a good

29:37

brother. Yeah. Look, mate, I think

29:39

with everything we're hearing out of Saint

29:40

Kilda, I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm

29:43

a I've

29:46

got Cholera at the but I'm not one hundred percent sold.

29:48

I think no one could really be

29:50

truly confident. We've only seen it

29:53

for the back half of last season

29:55

and his scores are kind of propped up

29:57

by going to beat the last two games.

29:59

And if it comes out next year that he's

30:01

the or this season that he's the main target and

30:03

all of a sudden teams are starting to end for

30:05

him a lot more. I don't think going to get as much easyball as what

30:07

he got in the back half of twenty twenty

30:09

two when Port was struggling. So

30:12

at J. H. Jeff in there, out of Fit Oly wines,

30:14

out of Bud is improving. You

30:16

just don't really know how that's going to line

30:18

up. So from that point of view, Hami, I'm

30:20

taking Marshall over. Rody?

30:23

Raul Marshall, he's a

30:25

a, sorry, a rock that we all have

30:27

been very much thinking about So

30:29

everyone currently have Royal Marshall in their sides at

30:31

the moment. Yep. Everyone

30:34

nodding. And recently. Yeah.

30:36

So what's your other rack looking

30:38

like? We'll start with Ali. You've got your

30:40

mark off mute there. Who's your other

30:42

rack at the moment? Look,

30:45

it's it has moved around

30:47

a little bit, warning, but

30:51

the moment, it's Grundy.

30:54

Oh, I like it. I

30:57

like it. You're excited about what he might be

30:59

able to do with his new aspiring

31:01

partner there in Max

31:02

gone? I'm just

31:04

not a hundred percent sold yet

31:06

on English and Marshall.

31:09

Because I think everyone's talking them up as being

31:11

the number one rock with pinch hitter, but

31:14

until I see that, I'm

31:16

not convinced. Look, Grandi's

31:20

there at the minute he has been in and out a little

31:22

bit, but I think that if

31:24

you look at the upside, he's

31:26

been a hundred and twenty. And if

31:28

you look at the downside, he hasn't been much below where he

31:31

is right now. So I think that there's a bit of

31:33

potential.

31:33

James, what's your rock light

31:35

up

31:35

looking like in a minute?

31:39

Yes. Similar to

31:41

Hotpey in the fact that I'm

31:43

not huge on English at the

31:45

moment. I I would like to,

31:47

you know, have a look. I don't think he can

31:49

at his price point, nearly

31:51

102I don't think he's gonna

31:54

outperform that greatly. If

31:56

he does it all, I I probably got

31:58

him regressing a little bit in my

32:01

mind. So

32:03

I do think Rowan Marshall will be

32:05

the number one rock by

32:08

year's end by some distance. And

32:11

then I've got at the moment, I've got Darcy Cameron

32:14

sitting in there, but

32:16

I'm not really happy

32:19

with that kind of

32:21

structure, not not to say I don't think he he's

32:23

a bad pick because I think he will be

32:25

a big. And just

32:28

look for cheaper

32:31

guy to put their hand up, but I don't think

32:33

that's gonna happen. That's probably more wishful

32:36

wishful

32:36

thinking. Stato, is the

32:38

rock lineup causing you any dramas so

32:40

far?

32:40

Or are you are you feeling okay about

32:43

it? Feeling okay about it at the

32:45

moment. I've got Rowan Marshall and Darcy Cameron.

32:47

So the plan is there. I've gone for two that

32:49

I think AAA value.

32:52

Mind you, in the

32:54

rankings, I've got Tim English one,

32:56

but we know he's got a bit of an injury

32:58

at the moment. Also

33:00

concerned that his match up is

33:02

gone and grumpy, round

33:04

one. So the daseke

33:06

Cameron option gives me value, but also gives

33:08

me the opportunity to once

33:12

we under stand what's happening in the rack

33:14

line. And I think it's a little bit confusing, to

33:16

be honest, that I can

33:18

make that move into the

33:20

forward line and bring who

33:22

I think should be the other top

33:24

two rackman. So it gives me a bit

33:26

of flexibility, but the

33:28

key thing is its

33:30

value, and you're only spending one

33:32

point five million there

33:34

at the moment. And

33:36

is the potential that I've got two of the top

33:38

three?

33:38

I want to play again. I reckon I

33:40

would've had a pretty good crack at the record. They

33:42

were greatness. She goes to the the milk

33:45

bar and comes out with five hurdles

33:47

and I'm on the

33:47

front. It has been a proof glitch and a

33:50

pleasure to spend time with the centurians

33:52

getting to hear their stories in

33:54

their

33:54

words. So it was just a bus a good place

33:56

to go.

33:56

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34:09

Nothing wrong with it

34:11

at me time.

34:14

I hit up Twitter to ask for some questions

34:16

for people that might have some if

34:18

we want better insight than what we actually give

34:20

them on our normal podcast. So

34:23

Here's one from Maddie, coach of lads,

34:25

lads that says, what's the right amount of

34:27

mid prices this year in

34:30

your opinion? It says. So see if

34:32

we get a couple here. Let's go with

34:34

Kyle because mid price

34:36

madness is obviously a thing that

34:38

has been coined

34:40

before, but Mid process look a little bit more attractive than what I and I have

34:42

done in the past. But what is that sort of magic

34:44

number? May not be a

34:45

number, but what's your gut

34:47

feel on that?

34:48

Yeah. It's interesting, right. I think as Fantasy Coaches, we

34:50

kind of get stuck into a bit

34:52

of recent bias and have a look at what

34:54

worked last year and just automatically think

34:58

that that's going to work this year. And the data and the

35:00

fact suggests that last year, we just had an

35:02

unprecedented amount of mid prices

35:04

that turned out to be those

35:06

competition within keep it fixed for

35:08

us. So you're George Hewitt, you're

35:10

James Dislie, you're Will

35:12

Brody, all these type of plays even like a

35:14

brand improves on his

35:16

journey, all of these players ended up paying

35:18

mid prices that you could keep for large

35:20

portions of the season because they were putting up

35:22

top six numbers when the reality is

35:24

like Fader likes to say, more

35:26

often than not, we don't get that amount of mid

35:28

prices. There's generally a few

35:30

that really pop and pay

35:32

off. So Unfortunately, at this point in time, we can't really give you an

35:34

answer on that. But what I will say is that

35:36

generally as a rule I like to play is that I

35:38

don't like to

35:40

start with many of them and I like to trade into them once I've seen

35:42

them. But that can also be

35:44

a bit of a downside. I'm a bit

35:46

behind those people that do pick them and start

35:47

them, but I think

35:50

little bit of a safer way to play? Well,

35:52

this question probably flows on a little

35:54

bit from that. And as

35:56

a long term player status,

35:58

you might be interested

36:00

in answering this one with Kim's question,

36:02

do the extra trades allow for more

36:04

aggressive trading this year? And if so,

36:06

does this impact your starting squad

36:08

structure. So I guess when we're talking about the extra trades, we've got extra round. So you've

36:11

initially you've already got two

36:13

extra trades there. But

36:15

you've also got an extra buy round and that

36:18

round is going to be easier than what we've

36:20

ever seen in the past because it's still a best

36:22

aid in you still have your three trades for that with second

36:24

of the buy around throughout

36:25

that. So we've got fifty trades this year. What

36:27

do you reckon?

36:30

Yeah. It's a really interesting question. And I'll

36:32

probably go to the the

36:35

set point of saying, that

36:37

the mid prices are the risky

36:40

ones. So the reality, unless an

36:42

injury hits, you're you're

36:44

you're primos

36:46

with value and your rookies aren't the ones that are gonna end

36:48

your season. But if you go

36:50

six mid prices and they all

36:52

fail and

36:54

there's more mid prices that fail than succeed. That's

36:56

when your season has ended, if

36:58

that makes sense to you. So

37:01

I tried to get the structure right,

37:03

and I will say, what's the right level

37:05

of mid prices? The

37:08

amount that the rookies determine their needs to

37:10

be is actually the right answer

37:12

in my mind. So if we

37:14

get sweet f a rookies and

37:16

end up

37:18

with five of them that are playing

37:20

round one, you don't actually have eight sitting

37:22

on your bench with red dots, hoping

37:24

they get selected round two. You've

37:27

got to try and get the the thirty green

37:30

dots. And therefore, you need to make a

37:32

sacrifice. And that's when I say Tom

37:34

Green is movable. So he's hundred

37:36

and fifty k. So if

37:38

he turns into, for example, a

37:41

a Whirlpool plus another

37:43

Whirlpool price player, So a

37:46

rookie and Tom Green is

37:48

nine hundred and fifty k

37:50

that two mid prices fit in with

37:51

him. That's the right structure because

37:53

that's how we get cash generation. James?

37:56

Yeah. I just got back on

37:59

that. Point start out with, you know, if your sixth mid

38:02

processing your team fail,

38:04

yes, your season's ruined. But

38:09

if you do pick,

38:11

you know, the handful, what number that

38:13

is? I don't know if it's

38:15

different each year. Last year, like Holmes said, we saw a

38:17

lot succeed. This year, we might see

38:20

more. This year, we might see less. We

38:22

just don't know. But if you

38:24

pick them, that's that's

38:26

how you win the car. That's what I believe. I don't

38:27

know. Do you agree or describe

38:30

it? You you get the you get the

38:32

right one. And and that's the key thing. And and it's about opportunity and

38:34

role. So you look at a

38:36

dom sheade. He he is not

38:38

a topite midfielder.

38:40

But he's a mid price player that

38:42

looks predominantly the plane inside mid.

38:45

He's got twenty five

38:47

to thirty points upside. That's

38:50

a big tick. But if

38:52

you take the risky ones hoping for

38:54

a breakout, but they're doing the same

38:56

role as they did last year, but there's

38:58

no true indicator other than they're a year older. They're the ones

39:01

that are gonna burn

39:02

you. I say it's a different CRM.

39:05

Just with your thirty gray dot theory, how are you

39:08

gonna swing your magnets around to get Lloyd make it

39:10

off right?

39:13

Alright. Well, and the the weird one is I think we

39:15

should be aiming for twenty nine green dots

39:18

this year because our who's

39:20

an r three at the moment that's on

39:22

the

39:23

radar? That's why I kind of wanted to bring it up, to be honest. Right? It's

39:26

probably a good discussion point. Are we pretty

39:28

happy with rolling with a rolling donut of

39:30

r three if nothing presents itself

39:32

between

39:33

down, round one? Absolutely. And I know everyone's heading to

39:35

the Ryan Samsung. The problem with Ryan

39:38

Samsung, he plays the first game of

39:40

the

39:40

round. So he's actually

39:42

not the right r three for

39:44

any of

39:45

us. It's a tricky way to work him

39:47

out. James feel most of last

39:49

season didn't roll with that larger Holland's

39:52

Daina and Ford

39:53

one. Yeah. Yeah. So I

39:55

had the emergency on the Nick

39:57

Martin one thirty And,

40:00

you know, I'm no rookie

40:02

expert or anything. Although last year,

40:04

I did now my rupees, I will quietly

40:08

say. But Yeah. I've

40:10

decided to to bank that one thirty.

40:12

And from what I was hearing from all the

40:14

the the rookie experts, you know,

40:16

Holland's is was so close.

40:18

He's gonna go to game next week. He's gonna

40:20

go to game the week

40:22

after. So I heard that for probably fourteen or

40:24

fifteen

40:24

weeks, and then he then he got on field

40:26

for me. But, you

40:28

know, I think in

40:30

the rolling lockout era as well, it's

40:32

become so much more important to have

40:34

that access to the red dot where

40:37

you can you you know,

40:39

play not play a

40:41

rookie rulelet and

40:44

just kind kind of have the second

40:46

goal of it. It's almost like having a second

40:48

goal at your captain's seat with your

40:50

VC. And, you know,

40:52

that's a bit of political

40:54

subjects with the the rolling lock

40:56

yet, I don't. But, you know, it

40:58

definitely helps me a lot last

41:00

year. So You know,

41:02

there there's good things and bad things from it.

41:04

You know, you thirty current thoughts. Keep

41:06

them, like, all cash. You're twenty nine.

41:08

You can access more points on field. In theory,

41:11

it doesn't always work. I remember as

41:13

well, you know, I missed out on a

41:15

shelly hundred and had to fill a field of forty

41:17

one as well. So it

41:19

goes both ways.

41:19

Yeah. And I think at the end of the

41:22

day, the rule one is

41:24

about ensuring maximizing

41:26

cash generation. And

41:28

sometimes having that flexibility is spot

41:30

on. And I think the

41:32

reality is the the

41:34

freeman defender slap

41:36

winger last year probably would have

41:38

been or ended up being the best red

41:40

dot to start with.

41:40

Alright. Let's have a couple of quick fire

41:43

questions here. Navigant Post is

41:45

asking, Do we pay up for docety?

41:48

And I'm normally a no on this,

41:50

but Royce starting to swing me around a

41:52

little bit mainly because of the gap that he could

41:54

have on that next says anyone

41:56

along that line of thinking with

41:57

me? Yeah. Look, Marni, I'm I'm a fan.

41:59

Status shot me down pre Christmas, and then he

42:01

came around after Christmas once he actually looked at

42:03

it. But Shady, that is look, Ed,

42:06

it really comes down to it.

42:07

You say Docker is being ten to fifteen points

42:09

clear of the next best offender. That's the only

42:11

way you can really justify

42:14

Because if he comes out price at one hundred and ten and he goes at one hundred

42:16

or ninety five for the first couple rounds of

42:18

the season that he's going to drop.

42:21

A lot in price and everyone in the comp is not only is

42:23

going to get in significantly cheaper and

42:25

that is at the end of the day, the aim of

42:27

the game. So tell yourself the

42:30

narrative and you believe that midfield role

42:32

is real and that extra responsibility, the

42:34

full praise is going to seem to be able

42:36

to go one hundred and fifteen plus and even maybe hold his

42:38

price or increase a little bit, that he's going to be a

42:40

fantastic starting take place. There's

42:42

arguments for both

42:43

ways, Army. If I

42:46

if I play a lot in the radar, would you be confident

42:48

in captain him? Coming high

42:50

with

42:51

him, mister

42:51

Captain? Not me

42:54

personally. No. And just with this one, this is

42:56

sort of getting to that point of

42:58

premiums as

43:00

value. The reality

43:02

I I just don't see that he's

43:04

actually got upside. So I think

43:06

there's a a fair chance that

43:08

his price goes down and gets

43:10

snafled by by the other one. So I've

43:13

actually called him in

43:15

the in the draft

43:17

kit as my boo man for the year

43:19

because I think in draft, people will

43:21

pick him up in the first

43:24

round because he's so far ahead on

43:26

average over and above anyone else

43:28

in the defense. That the reality

43:30

they're missing out on a one hundred and ten, one hundred and

43:32

fifteen mid filter for

43:34

potentially one hundred to

43:36

one hundred and for defender.

43:38

I think you're still gonna be

43:40

potentially the number one defender, but

43:42

I don't wanna pay that price

43:44

where I think it's his peak.

43:46

Him potentially being better than last year is just

43:49

so hard to see. Can

43:51

he match

43:52

it? It possibly could.

43:55

If I was gonna spend that amount of money,

43:57

I'd probably be putting it on Jack Steele, I

43:59

reckon, because while he's priced at

44:02

one ten, He had the

44:04

injury interrupted season last

44:06

year, and I can see him going

44:07

up, and I could have no hesitation

44:09

in capping him

44:12

too.

44:12

Now, I hope AFL talked a little bit

44:14

about the forward line before, but with my data, talking about

44:16

mid price forwards, and a popular

44:18

peak has been Toby McLean

44:21

as well. With

44:22

all those, let's call them a

44:24

little bit underpriced premiums that we could potentially

44:27

have in that forward line. Are

44:29

you gonna sort of dodge any

44:31

mid price action in the forward line

44:33

because of that? But in saying

44:35

that, is tote mcclean in your current zone

44:37

as well? Toby McLean is AFL my

44:39

side as f four. So I've

44:41

got Dunkley Toronto COGS and

44:44

then McLean

44:46

and effectively rookies following

44:48

that. Of course, we need to

44:50

ensure that we get the right amount

44:52

of rookies, but I feel safer

44:56

in the forward line. There might be slower but that we

44:59

get enough rookies to actually fill

45:01

those spots. So yes, McLean. I

45:03

just think he's a

45:06

great value. We talked about the opportunities, the build before.

45:08

And I think we all remember

45:10

his last game in the final and

45:12

what his history has been prior. So

45:16

for four hundred thousand, I'm happy to spend that. So it's four hundred and

45:18

one

45:19

thousand. Nice. Now a couple of questions

45:21

just to finish off here. A bit of an

45:23

age old type question. About

45:25

some structure stuff is

45:28

three brands and three rookies in the

45:30

back line, which I'm worried about

45:32

the rookies. So I'm not too keen on

45:34

that one, but or two premium, two mid priced, and

45:37

two rookies because you've probably got that

45:39

that Salem and Yo type option there that

45:41

you could be running this year. Your

45:43

d three and d four, which a few people are

45:45

doing on Ocalvin will talk that up a little bit

45:47

on the podcast this

45:48

week. So, yeah, what are your thoughts

45:50

on sort of a back line structure holmesy. Yeah.

45:53

Look, it's it's really gonna be dictated by

45:55

the rookies. I know people are gonna hate saying

45:57

that, but it's it's dead

46:00

right. A little fun fact. So in twenty twenty one, when I was

46:02

successful and came runner-up, I started

46:04

three rookies in defense, I started

46:08

nine he's in total on the ground. So when some people were going more good

46:10

price, I was able to come second

46:12

by starting so many

46:13

rookies. So it really it

46:15

like we say, it's it's different every season, and I'm

46:18

not just gonna peak nine rookies this year

46:20

just because I did that in twenty twenty

46:22

one. But really going to be

46:24

dependent on how many rookies we get. So at the

46:26

moment, I think in defense, the way I'm kind of

46:28

reading it, I think we might get a

46:30

Gimmee from the Eagles and then

46:32

we might there's a bit of talk about Weddle from Hawthorne and

46:34

then maybe a Wilmont and

46:36

someone else might pop up, but I think

46:38

we'll start three of those guys

46:40

on field, you're pretty much asking for

46:42

danger if one of them gets wrong because then you're

46:44

in a lot of stress. So I think the two

46:46

twenty two to do quite a common

46:48

structure at the moment and want to look at, but it'll really just

46:50

wait on preseason

46:51

games, Tommy. It depends who they

46:54

are. Those those meat prices

46:56

doesn't it? It really depends who they are. Like, if you're

46:58

looking at running a Nick Coffee or probably

47:00

less keloid,

47:02

but If it's something like LEO who's injury free

47:04

and playing through the midfield, then I'm I'm

47:06

a lot more confident on it. So

47:09

I don't know. There's there's that defense line

47:11

is really difficult because there's actually not

47:13

that many good value options that I can see.

47:15

I mean, you look at

47:18

Kona McKinnon. Is he even best twenty two of the

47:20

lines? We got AFL idea. He's only just turned

47:22

up and we don't know

47:24

where he's gonna apply AFL so.

47:26

I'm just not that

47:28

confident in all of those back line

47:29

players? I

47:30

hate the defense right now, to

47:33

be honest. I said that at the homes

47:35

here the other day. I just do not like it whatsoever. So it's

47:37

the one section of

47:40

my team that I've just

47:42

got great with, so therefore, they all become a preseason watch

47:44

role and

47:46

ensuring that I've got the right mix

47:48

of rookies mid prices and

47:52

maybe a premium because I I just don't like where

47:54

they are. I probably end up with docety

47:57

AFL and junkies by the

47:59

end of

48:00

it. But, yeah, just uncomfortable

48:02

with it at the moment. It's line

48:04

with greatest concern. Yeah. I think it's the

48:06

one that is causing gotta cause quite a few headaches

48:08

right up until that first lockout, I reckon,

48:10

until we See some of those rookies. Alright?

48:12

This one from Valkor and

48:15

Q. One word answers from

48:17

these. Day cost versus young,

48:19

let's start with Army. Davos, I

48:22

think, is less competition,

48:24

better role. With a decent

48:26

amount of points between

48:28

them, Navy

48:29

Close. I think that I still have day cost. I think

48:31

the potential upside is higher, James. Yeah.

48:34

That's great. Day cost.

48:38

It's very tough. You know, I

48:41

think the upside will

48:42

be a little bit hard. I think I expect him to

48:44

score a couple more points. He's a couple more

48:48

shape

48:48

up. Yeah. So Kips and Josh. Homesy?

48:51

Yeah.

48:51

I'll I'll say to ACOS, Bob. I'm just

48:54

gonna say

48:56

I'd I'd I'm not sure either of them are going to be that top six, top eight

48:58

percent that we need them to be this year. I

49:00

think we're banking a lot on them just

49:02

getting better by being a year

49:04

older. So that's where I'm kind

49:06

of at with them at the moment. But yes, I think they

49:08

cost just purely because of lack of

49:10

competition and being on that three metal back

49:12

line having a lot of mouths

49:14

to

49:14

feed. State I agree? Yeah.

49:15

Whatever homes he

49:16

says I agree with, mate, he's the

49:19

god. No. It's

49:19

good. And that's a thing and it's a good point

49:22

there. With homes

49:24

he'd I think going back to what stated I was talking

49:26

about with those – with the back

49:28

line and a lot of pliers this year, I

49:30

think we are looking for

49:32

that almost break AFL a little

49:34

bit more than what we ever have across our teams because they almost haven't been

49:36

those obvious blokes that

49:38

are, you know, that cheaper

49:41

price. You got your gift in trips last year, without a

49:43

lucky needle like that in the past where

49:45

their prices have been. Significantly

49:48

lower from what their output ends up as. But at

49:50

the moment, I'm finding it hard to pick the guys

49:52

that will end up being in that top line

49:55

are coming in at that

49:57

cheaper price. So next player

49:59

that Vikoram Q had here, all the

50:01

players was Andy

50:03

Brayshore versus Oliver if you're starting one of those

50:05

guys. Let's go reverse all of this.

50:07

So stay tight.

50:08

If I was picking

50:09

one of the two, I'll I'll

50:11

go Oliver. Just it's got a longer

50:13

proven record. That's and this is probably that going back

50:15

to that point of those one ten type

50:18

guys that Maybe about

50:20

where they are and possibly some people are seeing

50:22

some regression

50:22

here. But if you're picking one, Kyle, who would it

50:24

be? Yeah. I've I've been a lock in

50:26

the safety of Clari at that time

50:28

of year just the body of work that is done

50:31

with brochure and having done it once.

50:33

But probably brochure has the

50:35

higher upside out of the two, but

50:37

I'm going to bank the

50:38

safety. James? I'll

50:39

go. I'll go. Right.

50:40

Sure. I think pretty tight.

50:46

I

50:46

just think he could be could be anything. So

50:51

Prachael? And, Harmy, I won't

50:53

be picking

50:54

either one, but my love and so I had

50:56

a choice about

50:57

it too. And last one

50:59

here was a butters versus Rosie. And I

51:01

think Rosie has been the the simple

51:04

option for a lot of people. But is there

51:06

a world

51:08

Honey, that ballers is better than

51:10

Rosie. How many games were

51:12

we

51:12

talking over the course of the season? Like,

51:17

we're banking on them both staying out there. I don't know. Look,

51:20

Rosie, just, I'd say.

51:24

Yeah. James?

51:26

I'll take

51:27

I'll take him by a couple of points.

51:30

Nice. What about your

51:32

homes eat?

51:33

Yes. I'm going to back in ROCE purely

51:35

just for the fifty five percent to

51:37

sixty percent CBA average at the end compared to

51:39

but as thirty five percent to forty percent I

51:42

just think just to see if that meant to a role. But, yeah, that

51:44

it's very hard to split them at the moment, and

51:46

it it could be a play to go but it's just because

51:48

everyone's going rosy. And Seifman?

51:51

Stay on

51:52

brand butters. Of course. Alright.

51:54

Well, thank you guys. Really appreciate

51:57

your time here today. I It's

52:00

a a great time to be able to chat to the

52:02

great minds that you are and plenty of

52:04

insight has come out of this. One last

52:06

little tip on the way out

52:08

then is people are building their teams. We've got about six weeks to go.

52:10

So, well, stay there.

52:12

You've been there a long time. You're playing

52:14

this game longer than some

52:16

people have even been

52:18

alive. So tell us, mate,

52:20

what's a little tip that you can give coaches,

52:22

especially Coaches' that might be

52:24

starting out. In their first or second year coaching now with their

52:26

fancy team over this next

52:28

six

52:28

weeks. I I think

52:30

the first thing is see

52:33

find a way that you can enjoy the game.

52:35

So part of part

52:38

of what's kept me in it is I love

52:40

it. It's It's great fun. Do

52:43

your research but listen

52:45

to people. And and I think this

52:47

is AAA life lesson too is you need

52:49

to have the ability to hear all different

52:51

and ideas and then put

52:53

a little slant on

52:56

yourself for your own character, the own

52:58

way, and what your

53:00

strengths are. Have fun with it. That's the first thing you should do.

53:02

Holmes are your

53:03

tip?

53:03

Yeah. Mine kind

53:04

of goes off the back of

53:05

stato as well. Mine's a little bit more serious on

53:08

someone that

53:10

likes to or a lot of content and sort of listen to a lot of the

53:12

podcasts and read

53:12

Twitter. But at the

53:14

end of the day, it's sort of about

53:16

finding guides

53:18

that you trust or content producers that you trust and really

53:20

sort of listening to what they say and trying to

53:22

put your own spin on that. So I was

53:25

pretty big on on twenty twenty one when I went well, I was I was looking to

53:27

stay at one pod pod and drop off because he doesn't really know

53:29

this part. You know, he was one of the main

53:32

reasons that I did so

53:34

well just sort of listening to what he was

53:36

preaching and going sort of down that

53:38

road. So although there's a lot of people

53:40

out there on Twitter at the moment, they'd like to give their

53:42

opinion, not everyone's you deflated

53:43

equally, so you need to make sure that you're listening to

53:45

the right people. What

53:46

do you

53:47

reckon, James? What's something that people should be

53:49

thinking about over these last few weeks before

53:51

we head into round

53:52

one? I think if you

53:55

if you just start

53:57

out, you know, pick the players

53:59

pick the players you like. That's that's gonna go

54:01

a long AFL, I think. You

54:04

know, at my I said earlier, I sent kids in

54:06

my team, and I just absolutely love

54:08

him. And that's, you know, a little bit

54:10

of the reason why he's in there. And you make

54:12

sure, you know, with your captain's

54:14

seat, you've got two or three

54:16

options every week that you think

54:19

can go that one twenty.

54:22

So when you're starting out picking your

54:24

team, you know, pick a pick a couple of

54:26

big dogs who you think can can go one twenty and bank in nice

54:28

safe captain's score would be

54:30

very

54:31

helpful. Beauty and Hamie

54:32

everyone's probably said

54:33

everything. But if you

54:36

got any other last little bits of advice? Not just

54:38

back in the research that you've done. I mean,

54:40

don't don't be afraid that if you're

54:42

keen on

54:44

a player, Just pick it. You know, if you've done the

54:46

research and you like them, there's no reason

54:48

why you shouldn't be just because

54:50

everybody else's is

54:52

choosing a vanilla player. So I guess that's one b and yeah.

54:54

On the same boat. If someone pops

54:56

their head up at the last minute, don't

54:59

get in, I mean, if you if you haven't been looking

55:01

at them for the past twenty

55:03

six weeks, then putting them in at the last

55:05

minute isn't gonna help you

55:08

cause. So Just back in the research you've done and be confident with what you've

55:09

gotten. There's plenty of trace throughout the course of the

55:12

season. We'll help you,

55:14

Jordan Clark. Now

55:18

thank you guys and we can catch

55:20

all of you guys on Twitter. I'll tag that up

55:22

in a post when that comes out

55:24

because if you're not already following you guys.

55:27

You should be because you do offer some great insights and can get part of the

55:29

conversation as well, which is what it's all about. I

55:31

think that's the the beauty of

55:34

this and and seeing you guys as part of the community is a really awesome

55:36

thing. And I think myself,

55:38

I appreciate it, but I reckon a lot of

55:40

Coaches' out there certainly doing

55:42

a little shout out there for Karl with his work that he

55:44

does with the pod pod. That's been fantastic

55:46

as well, some different voices and

55:49

different things and also status who's being part of

55:51

the pod pod and also the

55:53

draft doctors. So the draft

55:55

kit is out very shortly if it's

55:57

not already out and that's something

55:59

that I really recommend people to do

56:02

because Draft is another fun way of

56:04

obviously playing the game, but it's also really good

56:06

for your thinking about your fantasy

56:08

classic and I think stated you've been

56:10

someone that's really said that over the years as

56:12

well? Yes. Certainly have. Because one thing

56:15

you do when you're setting up your draft

56:17

is you manage the rankings. So part of the process I do each

56:19

year is once all the rankings are completed, so

56:21

that's every one of the

56:24

draft doctors. I put

56:26

them together and actually have a draft

56:28

doctor's ranking, then I actually put the

56:30

price against some for salary

56:32

cap, the expected average based

56:34

on the last three or four years and

56:36

actually find out who's potentially got

56:38

some value. You've mapped that up with

56:40

role, form, fitness, all that type of

56:42

stuff and it's certainly does help you

56:44

starting

56:44

to. Yeah.

56:44

And I give a draft doctor's draft

56:46

kit as well for that reason. Having a

56:49

look at where the guys have

56:51

ranked all the midfielders,

56:54

defenders, and backs and forwards it.

56:56

Because it sort of just confirms what I

56:58

think with some ways if you

57:00

got other Coaches' quite a lot about the

57:01

game, and they've got players ranked

57:04

alongside where you think they should

57:06

be. Thanks guys. You are a

57:08

bunch of legends and we appreciate

57:10

your time on the

57:12

podcast. On our first coaches corner for the

57:14

year, you can be catching all of our

57:16

podcast at our Apple

57:18

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57:20

Podcasts and keep clicking back to afl

57:22

dot com dot au for all

57:24

of your great therapy content this

57:26

year. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thanks

57:28

for holding. Cheers. Bye. You've been

57:30

listening to the official AFL fan to

57:32

see podcast. For more expert advice from the traders head to AFL

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