Join us in a conversation with our guests, Betel and Collins, as we navigate our pitfalls in carrying wake work as we confront the isms in both their dominating and liberatory forms. We share our continuing journeys living with racism, sexism, classism but go the extra mile to call ourselves in wherever we fall short! Some shots are fired so you probably don’t want to listen to this as you fall asleep but what we all agree about in the end is that there is an ongoing war and we our dear listeners gotta stay woke coz the neighbour’s creepy!

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