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Opera, which is of course a web browser. They have
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this AI assistant that they've had out for a while
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I think almost a year now, but they have a
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new feature released on it that I actually think is
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Whether it's this or something else is the
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future of search and I think this is
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gonna be a massive threat to Google So
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let's get into it on the podcast The
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first thing that happened here is essentially they've
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released a new AI feature that
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can now summarize web pages right now This is
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just rolling out on Android I assume that they're
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gonna be rolling this out other places but you
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can imagine if something of it's a web browser
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like Firefox or Chrome or Microsoft Edge
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and you're seeing kind of these summary features from
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a bunch of different platforms now The first one
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that you'll probably think about is like not necessarily
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Chrome, but Google does this when you when you
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make a search This is how they're doing their
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their search engine. And what's interesting
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to me though Is that beyond just the
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search engine? This is getting baked straight into
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the browser We're seeing something very similar out
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of brave if you use braves like the
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brave search It doesn't have to
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be on the brave browser, but brave is
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another popular browser does the same thing It's
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got this kind of AI summarized web page
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Now the reason that I think this is
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important is because I think this is a
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massive threat to Google's current way of doing
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Business now, they've definitely tried to do something
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similar when you do a search on Google
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There's a little snippet that now appears at
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the top generated by AI if you have
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like an account enabled with their AI features
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And it's gonna summarize the results The
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reason that I think this is important is I
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think we're gonna start moving away From
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seeing these Google result pages that were so used
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to for the last, you know 15 20 years
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that have been really popular Things
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are changing and I think people don't want to
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search through You know 20 different blue
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links below to try to put together whatever piece
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of information and get whatever type of response they're
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looking for and neither do they want to after
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they've done that go and click on an article
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and Have to read, you know
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five page article to get the piece of
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information that they're looking for So I think
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the way we're doing search is completely changing
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and AI is going to be you know
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A massive disruptor now. Why does this matter
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to Google Google? is making
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hundreds of billions of dollars
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exclusively from that search process.
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It's kind of unfortunate
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because Google is the biggest
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person that benefits from the struggle of
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the search. They don't want to make the search too easy
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and literally just give you exactly what you want and want
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right off the bat necessarily because if you do that, then
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you're not scrolling around clicking on a bunch of different links
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and inevitably clicking on ads, which is where they make all
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of their money. So they're incentivized to show you ads, to
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show you a bunch of results and make you feel like
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you're on this searching process. Even when
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they're implementing these AI features, it feels like
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they're begrudgingly adding AI features in because they
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know OpenAI is going to kind of eat
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their lunch. So I think this
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is interesting because people are moving to tools
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like Perplexity, like u.com, and they're essentially using
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them to just get when you ask a
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question, it searches the web, it summarizes the
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web pages, it summarizes the results, it just
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gives you a snippet that gives you the
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exact information you want. That is what a
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user wants. They don't want to have to
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do this whole search, but there's no room
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in there necessarily for ads for clicking around.
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You just get the answer you get. You
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could argue that, oh well, maybe Google will
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do something clever, like they'll have ads
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embedded into the response. But if that's
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the case, people are going to move to all of
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the other platforms that do this for free because why
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would you ever want an ad embedded in your response?
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It's by definition a biased response. You want
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an unbiased ad, you have a question, you
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just want to know what the actual answer
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is and not what someone's paying you to
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put the answer in. So all of this
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is really fascinating. When it comes to Opera,
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they have this AI product in their browser
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called Aria, and essentially this new feature they're
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doing can now summarize the different pages
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on Android. I'll be
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curious to see if this launches on iOS as well
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or if there's some sort of security issues there because
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it's essentially reading what's on your screen and stuff, although
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it's on their browser and their app, so they might
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have the, you know, you might be able to grant
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them the permission to do that. What's
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really interesting to me is if you
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want to use this, you got to go, you can visit
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any text-based webpage, right, something that can be for like YouTube
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or something. there's three dots in the
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top corner, you can click on them and you
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can click summarize and then essentially there's gonna be
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a little pop, like a aria, their browser thing
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that pops up and you
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can request a summary of the page.
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Now, is this actually faster than
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reading the page? It seems kind of, I don't
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know, annoying to me to like have to click
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on something and request a summary and get it
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right. I think that these features are gonna get
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built straight into what we're doing. I think whether
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it's this or something else, probably something like u.com
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or Perplexity, you can see this is like they're
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building these features because users want them and users
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want them because it makes it so much easier
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than having to do all the research yourself. I
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think it probably is gonna move away from a
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chatbot and just be more of like, boom, it'll
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give you the response right away. Or maybe there'll
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be a setting where you can just enable to
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have this default summarize every webpage right when you
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load or you don't even need to get to
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the webpage, it just does it, when
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you do make the search. So whatever level of
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the funnel this happens, I think this is gonna
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be massively disruptive to Google and their ad business.
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This is way better user experience for users and
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I don't think Google has a real response on
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how they're gonna be able to integrate ads into
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this. So as it is right now,
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it seems like they're just kind of slow rolling and putting
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off this inevitable doom as long as possible and just being
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like, oh look, we have a little AI snippet at the
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top of Google results. It's cool, you can
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use it, but they still have all the ads below. They don't
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wanna cannibalize their ad business. Inevitably, I
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think these competitors, Perplexity, u.com, some
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of these features coming on, these tools like
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Opera are gonna cannibalize that or are essentially
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just gonna compete away a lot of their
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margins and Google is gonna have a serious
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threat to their ad business in the coming
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