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My name is Alex and when I was in seventh grade,

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my sisters tore up my Valentine's Day

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present from my Valentine. No,

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no,

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it will be alright forever. No

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right, no, alright

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forever. What's

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up? Everybody is alex IONO. Here

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this is my podcast. Let's get into it where we talk about

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everything, including my scarring past. But

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before we get there, I want to talk

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about how cool my three sisters

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are. So if you know anything about me, it's

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probably the first thing you'll ever know about me is that I

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have three sisters, no brothers. I was the only boy

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and growing up a lot of people when

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they find out that I have only three sisters, they're

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like, oh, did you always wish you had a brother? Did you

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wish this? Yead YadA? And I was like, no, not really honestly,

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because I really won. I was always taught

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to treat women with respect. Um.

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I was always taught to, you know, take

1:00

care of how I look. I was always taught to, you

1:03

know, have confidence when talking to women. All

1:05

of the all of the things that you get,

1:07

and it's like a great pro But

1:10

there's a lot of things that I that I think can be said

1:12

not only about me having three sisters and talking

1:14

about my dating history, but also

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how siblings can interact with each other. You know, we've

1:18

all been there for each other and you'll learn in stories.

1:21

Um, when times got tough and you're dating,

1:23

uh, and your siblings are always there for you. You have

1:25

siblings who are always there for you when you need advice

1:28

or what do I do is I've been

1:30

on both sides of a phone call where you're asking

1:32

for advice or needing advice. Um,

1:34

And there's just so many things. And also when

1:36

I'm having a podcast and I'm talking about all of

1:38

the most important things that happened in my life,

1:40

how can I not have my three sisters on.

1:43

Luckily I got them all free at the

1:45

same time and we're all here now. So

1:47

it got me thinking dating

1:50

when you got three sisters. It's kind of crazy,

1:52

But where would I be without them?

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No,

1:57

welcome back to Let's get into it. I'm like

2:00

sion no, and I'm so happy about

2:02

and I'm sorry. I'm gonna apologize to every guest

2:04

I've had on this show before, including my brother in

2:06

law Josh. But I have the best guests

2:08

on earth here today, and it is

2:11

my three sisters, and let me introduce

2:13

them to you, starting at Starting

2:16

at small forward, she's twenty nine

2:18

years old. She is the heart of

2:20

gold and she is ready to let

2:23

her love unfold. Um. She

2:26

is my most adventurous sister. She's

2:28

always down to go on an adventure with me. Um,

2:31

and I always turned to her for life

2:33

advice in general. My sister Taylor,

2:35

I own no what's u Um.

2:39

I'm so excited for you to be on here. But

2:42

you're not alone. I have with my other sister. Starting

2:44

at very small point Guard.

2:47

She's twenty seven years old. She has

2:49

the most beautiful angel of a daughter

2:51

in the whole world. And if anybody ever even looks

2:54

at her the wrong way, they're murdered. Uh.

2:56

She is always honest

2:58

with me. She is always down to

3:00

collaborate with me creatively. She is

3:03

my earliest singing partner and my earliest

3:05

musical collaborator. Uh.

3:07

And she's married, so it's kind of like boring

3:10

for dating advice. But she's here and we

3:12

are happy to have her. Uh. Sydney,

3:15

I also call her Squanto. I also call her

3:17

sid And she's also the one

3:19

sibling. I don't know if you guys have a sibling where you

3:21

just kind of will make up mean names and then

3:23

we just call them. We call each other that. So, Um,

3:26

Sid, how

3:28

are you? Um?

3:31

She does call me she fide, and I think if you spell

3:33

out the words she fide, you'll figure out what

3:35

it means. Um. I'm so happy to have you

3:38

as well. And we have one more with us,

3:40

starting at team captain. Apparently

3:43

she's twenty two years old. She is all

3:45

of our baby sister. We all call her baby.

3:48

Um. She is always fun,

3:50

She's always making jokes. I call

3:53

her anytime I need to laugh. And

3:55

she also is one of the very few people

3:57

sorry Sid and te who knows absolutely every

3:59

fast it about my life. Um.

4:03

We we call her baby, we call her how she's

4:06

She's one of my best friends in the whole world. Hall. Yeah,

4:08

I oh know. How are you? I'm

4:10

doing great? Brother? How are you? Okay?

4:13

We already talked about this. We're not doing the

4:15

Australian accent for the whole episode, but

4:17

UM, I'm glad that you're here. Okay.

4:20

Uh, I want to preface this whole episode

4:23

before we get started today. I want to mention um,

4:25

obviously my sisters are here. Uh

4:27

I am here as well. We all happened, to my knowledge,

4:30

to be sis straight people. So we're gonna

4:32

be mentioning dating in the context

4:35

of girls and guys. But I want

4:37

this advice to be for any folks who

4:39

find themselves in the dating world, no matter who you

4:41

want to date. If you've heard this show before, you already

4:43

know that we love, we accept, we promote

4:46

positivity, and are inclusive of

4:48

absolutely everybody. And if you haven't heard

4:50

the show before, welcome you're here. We

4:52

have three awesome topics to get into.

4:54

The first is going to be just me roasting you guys

4:56

about how me and you were to my previous girlfriends.

4:59

It's called the Ghosts of is Past. After

5:02

that, we're gonna be talking about current events, where we all

5:04

are now and how we all feel now and how

5:06

that changes the way that we view these things. And then lastly,

5:09

I was actually on Instagram this morning. How He was

5:11

on Instagram as well, and I posted

5:13

a story that asked for

5:15

anybody who's following me and How on

5:17

Instagram for dating advice

5:20

that they need. So we're gonna kind of just

5:22

all three of us are gonna play Dr Phil. All

5:24

four of us are gonna play Dr phil and

5:27

and and give some give some dating advice from

5:29

all of our perspectives of life. But

5:32

before we get into it, before we get into

5:34

the madness, I have one question that I ask every

5:36

single one of my guests, and that question

5:38

is what have you been doing this week to improve

5:40

yourself? I'm gonna go reverse order, Halle,

5:43

what do you have? What have you been doing this week

5:45

to improve yourself? A couple of

5:47

things kind of mind, I'd say Socially, I've

5:50

been spending my time

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and energy and the friends that

5:55

deserve that time and energy, and I've found

5:57

that it's made me a lot happier. I'm

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glad that that's something that you're doing. I'm glad that you're

6:02

giving your energy to people who reciprocate that same

6:04

and or better energy.

6:06

Sydney, give it to us. Similar

6:08

to Hollie's, I've been

6:10

really pushing myself and working on balancing

6:13

family life and work life and being a working

6:15

mom, also spending a lot

6:18

of time with my husband and my little one

6:21

year old and making sure she's

6:23

still getting a good

6:25

life with having both time

6:28

with mom and dad while we both work, and so

6:31

so, what we've been working on this last week. Sydney

6:34

is a stylist for those who

6:36

you do not know. If you ever see me wearing

6:38

great outfits, it is solely because

6:40

of Sydney Lee Lewis. That

6:43

being said, Taylor, give it to

6:45

us. What are you doing this week to improve yourself?

6:47

You just had a birthday, by the way, so we're talking happy

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belated. What's

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going on? Yeah? Um?

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One of my birthday resolutions

6:58

was to show up for myself off every day

7:00

and meet myself wherever I'm at. So

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if I'm sad, then I meet myself

7:05

when I'm sad. If I'm happy,

7:08

then you know, just roll. And

7:11

I'm not working right now. I'm employed,

7:14

but I'm not currently working until January.

7:17

So I have started

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having a routine where I wake up naturally

7:21

when my body wants to wake up, and

7:24

I start my morning by not looking at

7:26

my phone and going straight

7:28

into reading and

7:31

meditating and manifesting,

7:34

which is all new

7:37

all three of you guys know, right

7:40

right. I also want to point out

7:42

that when Taylor says wake up when her body naturally

7:44

wants to, that means she wakes up at four am,

7:47

goes back to sleep at nine am, and wakes up

7:49

at three pm, so we're all here.

7:52

I wake up at eight oh six

7:54

on the dot every single day. It's

7:56

a sign. You know what a plus six is four.

7:59

You know one us four is five,

8:01

and you know what five minus five is zero,

8:03

which is how much time we have lest for this bit.

8:06

Manifesting is great. Reading is great. It's

8:08

also something I've been doing recently. And I'm not good at

8:10

reading. But um, I'm glad that you're doing

8:12

that. That joke really

8:14

didn't go well. That joke just did

8:16

some negative energy. That's

8:19

what happens when you have sisters. Dude.

8:28

Is a word that I don't know if that's a joke.

8:30

Is that thing that everybody uses. We are family

8:32

uses it to just make fun of somebody when they don't

8:34

make a good joke. And and there you have it.

8:36

Um, I'm gonna slap, slow clap.

8:39

There we have Um. Let's let's

8:41

get into it. Let's get out of this and let's get into

8:43

something cooler. Segment number

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one. It is called the Ghost of X's

8:47

Past. Let's go all the way back. I mean,

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let's go to seventh grade. I think seventh grade is

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probably when we all started going to the Sydney

8:55

Taylor and I started going to the same school, which inevitably

8:57

Hallie ended up going to as well. Seven

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feth grade. I'm I'm new kid

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in school, you know, I'm I'm I got

9:04

my sisters were popular. We're gonna We're

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not even gonna just we're gonna call it what it is. My

9:09

sisters were popular in school, and

9:11

uh, and I get in there and

9:14

I'm kind of doing my thing, having my like seventh

9:16

grade girlfriend, and we're going to call this

9:18

girl Valentine. We're

9:20

gonna call her Valentine because we, uh,

9:23

we became a boyfriend and girlfriend.

9:25

I think the day before Valentine's Day, which

9:28

is perfect because this is

9:30

exactly when the table was set when I first

9:32

realized that my sisters did.

9:36

If they don't like a girlfriend, it's bad

9:38

news. This is the first lesson. So Valentine's

9:41

Day comes, I get a Valentine's

9:43

Day present, like full bag, stuffed

9:45

animal you can see puffing out like a card. It

9:47

was a brown paper bag. It wasn't a fancy

9:49

but we're in seventh grade, guys, no budget, we don't have a budget.

9:52

Brown paper bag, stuffed animal coming out

9:54

of it. I think flowers as well. We

9:57

hold on before we preface this, what did you guys not

9:59

like about Was there anything you didn't like? Or was

10:01

this just the ship? She wasn't

10:04

wait about you or about her? About

10:06

this girl? Okay, Valentine

10:10

was such a little brat, Like I'm

10:12

not like she was a

10:14

brat. She had an older sister

10:16

who was our age, who also thought she was a

10:18

brat. Now

10:21

that we know the store, now we know that the reasoning

10:23

behind um, let me tell you what happened. So we

10:26

get to the grocery store and my mom

10:28

goes in. We as the kids decide we're going to

10:30

stay in the car. I

10:32

think this was there too. I don't know why I

10:34

feel like this was there. Okay, So my sister's

10:36

childhood best friend, Um, who has

10:38

not been on but Mackenzie, who has been on.

10:41

Mackenzie's older sister. But we're

10:43

at the grocery store long story short, and

10:45

my sister's notice that I have

10:48

this present and somehow

10:51

convinced me to get out of the car. No,

10:53

no, no, no no, you were Okay, here

10:55

you tell the story. Okay, you

10:58

had your little gift, Taylor,

11:00

and I did not have Valentine's

11:02

this year. I just want to clarify that we I

11:04

mean, we had probably like just friend Valentine's.

11:07

Alex was sitting in the backseat just

11:09

opening everything and just being

11:13

I don't think, just

11:15

a little ship arguable of

11:18

just pulling little stuff out like oh I

11:20

got this, but being a little ship about it, just

11:23

throwing it in everyone's faces in the car.

11:25

So we said, hey, go

11:27

find mom in the grocery, tell our hurry. Alex

11:30

goes to go find mom. He comes back

11:32

quickly, and we then would

11:35

not let him back in the car. Left

11:37

his gift in the car. I left the gift in the

11:39

car. They rolled the window down just enough

11:41

to hear me and just enough to hear them,

11:44

and they, in front of my eyes, ripped

11:47

up the bag. Well

11:50

that was. That was after we

11:52

would hold the ballot one side of the

11:54

car and make you run to that side

11:56

of the car, and right when you were about to grab the bag, we'd

11:58

pull it in and we put on the other side

12:00

of the car. And the crazy thing

12:02

is, I'm still grateful for the three of you after

12:04

all of that. In life in general, I'm grateful

12:06

for the three you broke. That

12:10

being said, they did save me from a brat. We don't need to

12:12

spend more time on this because there's more stories. Unfortunately,

12:15

Uh, that being said, they

12:18

did save me from a brat. That relationship,

12:20

of which, by the way,

12:22

extremely deep. Seventh grade relationships

12:25

are extremely deep. It ended

12:27

fairly. Let's just say Alex's reaction

12:30

to when the gift was

12:33

ripped and the relationship ended was very

12:35

cry so the relation. When

12:37

the relationship ended, I didn't cry, That wasn't

12:39

a big deal. But when I

12:42

when they ripped up my presence, I was. I was crying

12:44

and they got in trouble. Mom yelled at you got and not yelled,

12:46

but we call it yelling. Um. Mom

12:49

gave you a sturn metaphor for your

12:51

relationship. They being

12:54

ripped. That was your relationship. And

12:56

it didn't even stop. It didn't even stop there.

12:59

The thing, the thing that's unfortunate is that it didn't

13:01

even stop there. They didn't do anything

13:04

as far as ripping things up anymore.

13:06

But it was nicknames that they would tell me.

13:09

They would point out, this is the biggest issue.

13:11

They would point out the flaws of

13:14

the girls that I date like. They would

13:16

point them out, and then it's one of those things, where

13:18

as soon as they pointed out, even if it's mean

13:20

or or even if it's you know, not

13:23

true, it's all I see, like we're talking

13:25

about like like we're

13:27

talking about Okay, we're not gonna say that, we're talking

13:29

about like just just just name

13:32

calling and teasing until I

13:34

inevitably don't like that person anymore,

13:36

and then and then it's game over. Uh. Not

13:39

being that that's the reason I broke up in my most of

13:41

my relationships. Most of it's because it didn't work out.

13:43

But that didn't help. Ladies we've

13:46

had, we've had quite a history. So we went from

13:48

we went from Valentine, and then we had

13:50

the long term one, which we'll call her because

13:53

we all know. Um, we had her

13:55

and her kind of lasted from like fourteen

13:58

two six teen. I

14:00

think at that point Sidney and Taylor

14:03

kind of went off to college, so you guys were away for a

14:05

bit. Hallie still I had moved to

14:07

Los Angeles, Halle was still going to school in

14:09

Arizona, so we're a little bit distant from each other,

14:11

so we didn't have as much hands

14:14

on kind of experience in each other's dating

14:16

lives. Um. But

14:18

then we all rejoined. We

14:20

all rejoined in California, and

14:22

I got more girlfriends. I

14:25

don't know if there's any real highlights, but none

14:27

of them worked. We we none of them had worked

14:29

for a while. And then at twenty three

14:31

I met I met Madison and guess

14:34

what, guys know me, you

14:37

will believe it all like

14:40

her? What yes,

14:43

let me say that one the time. We all

14:45

love her well, because there's also something

14:48

that needs to be pointed out, which is there

14:50

were girlfriends that I had that you

14:52

that like. Each of you would like like, some of

14:54

you would like more, or some of you would really

14:57

like even two of you guys would like and then

14:59

one of you would kind of what kind of like

15:01

convinced the others. Howie, go ahead and got

15:03

your hand out, thank you. Let me

15:05

just put this just plat out.

15:08

If there was ever a girl who one

15:10

of your sisters liked or two of your sisters

15:13

liked, I was I was never one

15:15

of those. Haw. He is definitely the most

15:17

the most protective of me. I

15:20

think that we grew up in like Sidne like

15:22

you're going to meet Sydney soon. He's gonna be the hard

15:24

one. But no, like I really like

15:28

with blanket. Are we all on the same

15:30

page? Blanket

15:32

blanket? Right with blanket blanket, guys,

15:34

are on the same page. She was the first girl

15:36

who you two liked and

15:39

I still was, like I was iffy

15:41

on her. I was, I liked her.

15:44

I didn't like Alex with her, but I

15:46

liked her outside of their

15:48

relationship. But you know,

15:50

Alex, I mean, I think we also

15:52

just need to bring up how Alex

15:55

is when he first starts dating something aside

15:58

from Madison every

16:00

time in the past, over

16:02

the top, mushy, gushy

16:04

baby, bab I'm

16:07

a I'm

16:10

talking. This is like the words

16:13

are throwing out, hey baby,

16:15

all of us sisters are literally looking at

16:18

each other like nasty

16:21

grows, he's this, and all

16:23

over each other. Let's also mention

16:25

that makes us like not like the girl also

16:28

because they also react the same

16:30

way, like they match that energy,

16:33

which in a relationship like should be

16:35

but like when you're around family, like that's

16:37

when you like, I

16:40

would put that one on Alex. You know what. You know, what's

16:42

important, guys is that we don't have to worry about that anymore.

16:45

We don't have to worry about it. I guess we'll never

16:47

know, I think that we can all agree

16:49

that that Blanket because this is one of the questions

16:51

I have, But I don't think we need to ask it. Of

16:54

which of my relationships do

16:56

did you guys try the hardest to get me out

16:58

of? And I think we can Alla was Blanket

17:02

I dated from like twenty to just

17:04

before I turned twenty one. Other than to be Valentine,

17:07

which was, you know, seventh grade madness.

17:10

Um, I feel like Blanket was probably other than

17:12

other than maybe one of the sisters,

17:14

Blanket was probably the most like, hey,

17:17

don't date this girl anymore. I

17:20

feel like Seg. Yeah,

17:22

yeah, it

17:26

was pretty pretty,

17:29

but she didn't vibe

17:32

with our family from day one. Yeah, that's

17:34

a true That's a true one. And when I was dating

17:36

Segue, that was about I met her when I was like eighteen,

17:39

and we dated off and on until I was about

17:41

nineteen ish. That's a true one. And

17:43

so as as much as Blanket

17:46

did mesh better with

17:49

our family than see right,

17:51

but I think Seg it was more we

17:53

were all kind of doing our own things, so there was a

17:55

lot of time where we were both or we're

17:58

all together all the time, we're Blanket

18:00

it we were all together all

18:02

the time. See also you were

18:04

a lot younger, so I mean, yeah, I was younger.

18:07

You guys are both young, and you weren't

18:09

like talking future. It was just like

18:11

like it really was meaningless. It

18:13

was yeah, it was just a deep

18:16

relationships but blanket.

18:18

You guys kind of got pretty serious

18:21

and from sister's perspective, we

18:25

just didn't see it going well

18:27

because we're a lot of issues

18:29

obviously, right right right.

18:31

I think we can get down with that. I think

18:33

we can all agree that that's probably a true statement

18:36

and we can just move forward because we're not there

18:38

anymore, you know what I mean, Like were we were there,

18:40

but now we're not gone and that's nice. Um,

18:43

it's time to I think it's time to flip the script because

18:45

we're about to close out this segment. But before we get

18:47

to that, I want to go back ghost

18:49

of ghost of exits past. Um,

18:52

what's it like? What what do you guys feel like? It's like dating

18:54

with me as your brother? I think a lot of people would

18:57

think that a brother with sisters like that,

18:59

you know, you have your true additional you

19:01

know, protective and like

19:04

no, like I won't allow

19:06

it or or any of

19:08

those things. Hallie's got a story.

19:10

But before Halle gets to our story, I want to go to

19:13

I think the earliest boyfriend

19:15

experience, which we're gonna call Lord of

19:17

the Ring and Lord of the Ring. I

19:20

think Sydney was dating when I was thirteen

19:23

to almost fifteen. Uh,

19:25

Lord of the Ring, which was Sydney's boyfriend.

19:28

Um. I was hoping that this

19:31

was Sydney's because

19:33

it was like the first boyfriend in our family. Right.

19:35

Well, can we just point out that

19:37

that Taylor and Hallie did

19:39

not have boyfriends when we were younger. They

19:43

trasually dated, so

19:46

Taylor was not allowed to date. I

19:50

blazed the path was the first

19:52

boyfriend. If it makes you feel better toay,

19:54

Sydney also wasn't allowed to date. She just chose

19:56

not to listen. True,

20:00

That's why I was

20:02

a mix of I wasn't allowed to date. Also,

20:05

no one wanted to date me. Not

20:08

true, not true, inaccurate

20:11

information, um, But

20:14

back to the point me as a brother. The

20:17

only thing I remember about Sydney's really like in

20:19

detail, is that I was always with them.

20:22

I was always with them when my parents finally settled

20:24

with Okay, Sid's got a little boyfriend.

20:27

They were. The biggest rule was and

20:29

I think it was a pretty popular rule more so in our like community

20:31

and and and across the whole Arizona Mormon

20:34

UM religion was like you never are alone with

20:36

the person when you're when you're under eighteen,

20:39

like when you're you know, sixteen, seventeen or

20:41

whatever have you, Like you're not supposed to be alone.

20:44

And so my parents, I said,

20:46

I always had to be with them, And I was cool with that

20:48

because I thought it was fun. Like I actually thought that Lord

20:50

of the Ring was like cool

20:52

when I was younger, Like I was just like, oh, he's

20:55

so rad and he's gotta well,

20:57

yeah, as much as you, I'd

20:59

like to say that I have this like protective

21:02

brother, Like in reality, Alex

21:04

has befriended the

21:08

people we've all dated. Um

21:10

And for Lord of the Rings

21:13

was did we use Alex

21:15

because he was the most low key sibling that

21:17

would just kind of chill and hang out and

21:20

still kind of leave us alone and

21:23

like whatnot. Yeah, that's

21:25

why we chose Alex. He was not the

21:27

protective type. We'd go to the gas station

21:30

and they go, hey, go get some drinks and like stay

21:32

there for a big hang out. Get to know the cashier

21:40

joke, it's a joke.

21:43

I spent a lot of time with

21:45

them. Taylor also, Taylor and I had we

21:47

would show it we'd switched shifts, which we'd

21:49

switch shifts, and that

21:53

got in trou I'm the one that got grounded when

21:55

city got grounded. Yeah, it was a weird kind

21:57

of form of discipline that happened

22:00

that. You know. That's great, that was in the past. I

22:02

mean, I just think we want to focus on the prob we

22:04

want to focus on the future. Now, we want to

22:06

focus on the president. There, guys,

22:08

I'm going to move us along to the next segment. Let's

22:11

go into Hallie. Let's go into Halle because Halle has

22:13

Hallie has some thoughts on what it's like to

22:15

have a brother, Uh, a brother

22:18

like me when you're dating. I

22:20

just wanted to say that I

22:22

still to this day will tell people I

22:24

wish my brother was protective. I wish

22:27

that like I'd be like, hey, I'm talking to this

22:29

guy and he would be like, well, what's his name,

22:32

Like then let me meet him? Like oh,

22:34

like when Alex is in town and I'm like,

22:36

hey, I gotta go. I'm gonna go state boy,

22:39

I like, you know, I wish that he'd be like, well,

22:42

is he gonna come upstairs and meet meet

22:44

like your family, you know kind

22:47

of movies, you know, but no,

22:49

no, no no, it's like girl, do

22:52

what you want to do, like what you

22:54

gonna do though, but like what did

22:56

you guys do? Like it's it's

22:58

more of just like um,

23:00

more like a best friend, you know, it

23:03

doesn't necessarily agu on, but just

23:05

doesn't. Ever, It's never like that like protective.

23:08

I think it's just that I love love. You know, I

23:10

love love and that's okay. That's okay for

23:12

some people. That's okay for some people because I just

23:14

love love and that's okay. Do you

23:16

have anything to add Let me just say

23:18

one thing that the great thing about Alex not being

23:21

protective is he does end up

23:23

being friends with your

23:25

person like I earlier and

23:27

so like now Alex

23:30

and my husband, I would say, are really

23:32

Josh and I are closer than any of the boyfriends

23:35

that when you guys end up potentially

23:37

breaking up, I don't. I'm not like a friend

23:40

enough that I like stay friends with and like

23:42

one of your exes, like I'm still loyal Okay,

23:47

you told me I could. I

23:50

know, I know, I know,

23:52

I know, I know. I'm not I'm not sub tweeting

23:54

any of my sisters for staying friends with

23:56

my axes. You

24:00

you you made

24:02

the decision to cut times.

24:05

Yes, no, that's a difference. You know she

24:07

needs you more, but I know

24:09

your loyalty lies with me. Yes, that's true, that's

24:11

true. That's true. We take I take that herself.

24:14

And now we're not friends. Yes, um,

24:17

guess why. We're

24:19

bigger and we're better. So

24:22

I have one last story that I want to point out,

24:25

which is probably my favorite, has nothing to do

24:27

with dating. Um, but the first

24:29

time that I ever got caught making

24:31

out with a girl, it was actually

24:33

and I don't know if Taylor do you do you know that

24:36

this is basically what happened is there was like the school

24:39

like dance recital, and I

24:41

used that dance recital as an excuse to stay longer

24:43

at school so I can make out with soccer

24:46

girl. Soccer

24:49

soccer girl. You guys know who soccer girl is with

24:52

soccer girl? Uh? And

24:55

Taylor was actually supposed to pick me up and I lost

24:57

track of time and I had

24:59

a if I just got my cell phone. At this point,

25:01

I was so hyped and

25:03

um, and I remember

25:05

having text after text after text after text

25:08

of where are you? I'm here, I'm waiting,

25:10

I'm here, And I remember like making out with soccer

25:12

girl for like, I guess, way too

25:14

long. And then I saw my phone and I remember

25:17

like freaking out and running out

25:19

to the car and trying to come up with all these excuses. Tay,

25:21

do you even remember this? Oh

25:25

gosh? And then I went and then I

25:27

got home and I just like, I don't know what it was.

25:29

I was such a goody good back then, um,

25:31

in terms of like getting scared about getting

25:33

in trouble that I got home and I just confessed,

25:35

I was like I was making I was by the way, I was like thirteen at

25:38

this time. I was making out with soccer girl

25:40

and I was like bawling my eyes out, and my mom was

25:42

like, go to go to our room

25:44

and wait for dad. And then she just like, wait,

25:46

I had to wait in the room until dad got home from

25:49

work. And then she's like all I asked

25:51

was how um?

25:55

And and then my dad came home and gave me the old

25:58

I'm disappointed. I'm not mad I'm just appointed

26:00

talk and uh, and we moved on to bigger and better.

26:02

That was the last story. I wanted to finish with that because I forgot

26:04

about that one. Um, but look,

26:07

the good news is. The

26:09

good news is is that that's all in the past,

26:11

and we're here in the president. Actually we're hearing like

26:13

the more recent past slash present,

26:16

because I want to talk about, um,

26:18

how we feel about dating now. But we'll be right

26:20

back. All

26:22

right, we are back. This is let's get into

26:24

it. I'm here with my sisters and we just talked about

26:27

the past. It's time for us to talk about I

26:29

guess still sort of the past, but more of like

26:31

where we are now. Um,

26:33

we're in an interesting place, like we're growing up. We talked

26:35

about all of this kid's stuff, and I feel like all of

26:37

the past, whether it's horror stories

26:40

or or funny jokes or anything.

26:42

Like we're all kids, we're all teenagers, but now

26:44

we're all over twenty one, Halle

26:46

the youngest being twenty two. Um,

26:49

Sydney's married, I'm in a long term relationship.

26:52

Taylor and Halley are both in Utah, just

26:54

doing the full dating slang.

26:57

UM, and I want to go through each

26:59

of those. So first, Taylor, I think

27:01

yours is probably the most interesting because, like

27:04

you said, you aren't working right now, but you are

27:06

a flight attendant, which means you travel across

27:09

the whole United States.

27:12

Um, Taylor does have hose in every area

27:14

code. Um and you

27:16

and like I remember, I remember so

27:18

many conversations where we're talking like, oh, I went on a

27:21

date with this guy in Portland, or I went on a date with

27:23

this guy in Boston, or I went on a date with this guy

27:25

here there. Um, what's your what's

27:27

what's that like? You know, being you know

27:29

for for the rest of the three of us.

27:31

For the most part, Um, even though I travel

27:34

a lot, all of my relationships have been from

27:36

home, like where I am at home? Um and

27:38

and going on dates, it's always like at home

27:40

and the same I would say, goes for sid and

27:42

how um so you being the odd one out

27:44

in that situation? What's that like the dating

27:46

life? With your work life as transient

27:49

as my job, so is my

27:51

dating life. I'd just say, like I'm

27:54

never in one place too long, I'm never talking

27:57

to one person for too long, and or

28:00

my little caring heart, that is

28:03

really hard because I'll

28:05

go on a date with someone and I

28:08

like, in my head, I know full well I'm

28:10

never going to see this person again, but in my

28:12

heart, like they'll be like, ah, yeah,

28:14

my mom's having surgery next week. And next

28:16

week comes and I'm like, I wonder how his mom

28:19

is doing to him. I'm like, no,

28:21

no, no, no, no, that was terrible.

28:23

Do not do that. But my heart's like, oh,

28:26

his poor little mom. And I don't

28:28

know his mom. I don't know him. We went out

28:30

one time, but oh

28:34

it hurts. It hurts. But then also

28:36

I keep doing it, so it's self inflicted.

28:38

I think the only person who could potentially

28:41

love as hard as I do in our whole family

28:43

is Taylor. I think, like you're like,

28:46

I'm like, as much as you guys have already heard

28:48

in this episode that I go hard when I like

28:50

like somebody, Taylor is like

28:52

a relentless day one. If I

28:54

love your energy, I love your spirit like you're

28:57

I'll give you, you know, as much energy as you

28:59

need. What would you say is like the last really

29:01

good date you went on? Like what they give it? Give us

29:03

some juicy detail? Can I give you the opposite?

29:06

Yeah? Sure, I mean you. Literally you

29:08

showed me a model. You showed me a male model,

29:11

like somebody about you'd only see in a magazine.

29:14

And I was like, oh my gosh, when you're going out and you're

29:16

like, I don't know. He asked if he would hang out on Wednesday.

29:18

I don't think I want to, And I was like, what the

29:20

heck. So I'm so curious as to either

29:23

side of this. Okay,

29:26

two sides. Your sister can pull.

29:28

But also I got stood up five times

29:30

in one week. Yeah,

29:35

so that's. Um,

29:38

it's completely different right now

29:40

dating because you well,

29:43

dating during a pandemic, you're

29:45

using dating apps, you're doing like virtual

29:48

dates, or you're going out on dates,

29:50

and you're like, we can't like go

29:53

out and like have an activity

29:56

that is in the public without

29:59

being in a pan damic. Dating online

30:02

or through apps is so inauthentic

30:05

that it just does not go

30:08

very well of

30:11

the time. That's why I can't really give you, like a good

30:13

date. I did have a guy

30:15

bring me taco bell. That's

30:18

okay, there we go, That's what I'm talking

30:20

about. Bringing home. We're

30:24

all in there. Um. I love

30:26

that, and and I think that, yeah, the pandemic

30:28

we already had the episode. If you haven't listened to a dating

30:30

in a pandemic, Um, so the listeners

30:33

and I also know how odd

30:35

it is in a time like this, UM.

30:37

And to get some more insight, let's have our other single

30:39

sister up in here, Halle. What's your

30:42

dating life like? UM? We have some

30:44

fun stories to talk about a little bit later on,

30:46

but at first I want to kind of just get into what your dating

30:48

life is like. Now. My

30:50

dating life is not that exciting, honestly,

30:53

UM. I live in Provo,

30:56

and before I moved

30:58

here, I imagine the dating scene

31:00

to be like, oh, go ahead dates every night with

31:03

different guys and meeting so many different people.

31:06

And I

31:08

don't go on dates. I don't know,

31:10

I just don't get asked out on dates. And I'm not trying to

31:12

do a little penny party for

31:15

how I just don't get asked on dates.

31:17

So, like, my dating life is not really that fun.

31:20

I have a lot of friends, and I feel like I've

31:23

gotten so comfortable just being friends with so many

31:25

people, and now I'm on a spot where I'm

31:27

just like, Okay, I kind of wish

31:29

that I had like

31:32

a guy who I'm interested in or like

31:34

guys who were interested in me and like would

31:36

actually shoot their shot. I don't know. I

31:38

think it's kind of different than the first time I ever

31:41

gotten got protective was just now

31:43

when you said, like, no guy asked me out. I'm like,

31:45

I'm like anti protective, where I'm like, hey, get

31:47

asked, asked her out. She's awesome, she's

31:50

got a kind heart. Come on, Yeah,

31:56

that's where that's literally like the first time I've ever

31:58

felt protective. I was like, hey, well,

32:07

if you live in Utah and you listen to this podcast and

32:09

you don't ask my sister out, you're

32:12

going to hell um so

32:14

last but not least um,

32:19

last but not least um, Sydney, you

32:21

are out of the

32:23

the dating dating game and you're into

32:25

the married dating game. How do you feel

32:27

about being the first member of our family

32:30

to settle down? Good

32:33

about it? I got the first grand baby

32:35

out, which that girl is spoiled

32:38

and loved more than any

32:40

person on this planet. I think everyone can

32:42

agree, Yes, sir, just wait for Christmas. Just

32:44

wait for Christmas. Yes, sir um,

32:48

how do you feel? How do you feel about getting married young?

32:50

That's something I've never asked you, but you got married in your

32:53

one Yeah, I did, which

32:56

is so crazy because I think growing up

32:58

in the like church

33:00

and being so

33:03

used to people getting married young, at

33:05

first I didn't it generally phase me. But

33:07

then being in l A, working

33:09

with and being friends

33:11

with a lot of people who have different

33:14

backgrounds of religion and beliefs

33:17

is kind of was the first time I was

33:19

like, oh, dang, I did get married

33:21

young, Like twenty one is young, and

33:24

for a lot of people that could be really

33:27

hard, and I'm not saying ours wasn't ever

33:29

hard, but I think

33:31

what it came down to for us because

33:34

my husband's nine years older than me, so

33:37

he was single for a lot longer than

33:39

I was and lived a single

33:41

life longer than I did. For

33:44

us, it was really just that

33:47

I had to be with someone who I could continue to

33:49

grow and learn with. And if

33:52

you're not with someone like that at a young age, I could

33:54

see that being really hard

33:57

and a big struggle. But luckily

34:00

I had someone who while

34:03

I'm still growing up and I'm still figuring out

34:05

what i want to do and I'm still chasing

34:08

my dreams and my

34:11

goals, I have someone who is

34:13

like growing with me,

34:15

if that makes sense, so yeah, absolutely

34:18

for me it worked out. I

34:23

know, we're all crying. I think the most important

34:25

thing too, though, to note is that, yes,

34:28

in the community that we all were raised in, like getting

34:30

married to twenty one wasn't a crazy thing. If anything,

34:32

it was like, oh yeah, it's the perfect age.

34:35

But it's also like, the reason, the

34:37

reason why it worked out so well for you is that

34:39

you you just happened to come across

34:41

the one that early, you know

34:43

what I mean, Like whether it was because

34:46

of what we were raised on before or I

34:48

think one of my earliest quotes from Dad

34:50

was like when you know, you know, and when

34:52

you met Josh, Like, obviously Josh and I

34:54

are are not to bring

34:56

it to everybody else, but like

34:58

Josh got in and in with our family and

35:01

like works so well. And he's obviously

35:03

been an episode. I've been on an episode of the podcast

35:05

where he's talked about his passions and he's so driven,

35:07

and I think that's something about our families were always

35:09

so driven and he just like fits and so

35:11

I think as much as the outside

35:13

world or even the rest of the three

35:15

of us, I think we can all agree that

35:17

when we look back at our being twenty one.

35:20

The three of us are like, no way I was

35:22

getting I was ready to be married to anybody.

35:24

It just worked for you. And I think that that's like

35:27

the other thing about all three of us is we're

35:29

all in different places, or we'll be in different places,

35:31

or we'll be in the same place, and regardless through

35:33

all of that, we're always there for each other and we love each

35:35

other. That's

35:37

fun. We're all having fun. Is Taylor crying

35:40

or what's going on? Taylor's crying?

35:43

Taylor gets that from our mom.

35:47

I also, I'm also Taylor

35:51

is also known as the third member of

35:53

the relationship between Sid

35:55

and Josh. Um.

35:58

That being said, you got married at but you're now twenty

36:00

seven. You've been married for six years, and we've had episodes

36:03

already with married couples who talk about how to keep

36:05

their um relationships you know,

36:07

still hot and and and fun

36:09

and and everything like still feeling

36:12

like you're in the honeymoon phase all the time. UM

36:14

a fun little anecdote. I was playing video games

36:16

with Josh last night and all of a sudden, I he goes,

36:19

what somebody just knocked at the door? Sydney ordered dessert.

36:21

I know she did, and then he opens the

36:23

door and there's a puzuki from b

36:25

J's um and

36:27

he walks in and I just hear I'm hearing it, and I

36:30

literally my heart like just laughed, and I was so

36:32

happy because he was just like, did you order pezuki?

36:34

Could hear city like yes, and he's like laughing. They're

36:36

both just laughing, and I was just one of those things where I was just

36:38

like, Damn, that's what you really want?

36:41

Um, So, is there any We're gonna get into advice

36:43

later, but is there any specific thing that you would um

36:46

kind of uh credit

36:48

as what keeps you and Josh, you

36:50

know, excited about being with each other and

36:53

still gives you the butterflies and all of those things.

36:56

Yeah, for sure. I Mean the first damp pops

36:58

into my mind is that we are

37:00

friends. So like we

37:04

as cheesy as it sounds, we

37:06

are best friends. And it's funny because

37:08

we'll randomly say, like, you really are my best

37:11

friend is like someone who you just

37:13

laugh with. I

37:17

just see Taylor crying and I just

37:19

have to like, but

37:22

I'll just I would just say

37:24

that we're friends. We like genuinely

37:27

enjoy spending time with each other and It's

37:29

not just in like an intimate romantic

37:31

way. It's just like

37:34

like you would have a friend like you just like being around

37:36

each other. You just like talking about

37:39

everything, whether it's stupid stuff,

37:41

whether it's about our daughter, whether it's about work

37:43

on either end, whether it's about

37:46

our show we're watching. We just genuinely

37:49

have a solid friendship and

37:51

that makes us want to be around each

37:53

other love.

37:56

Taylor just laughed. She was like, so

37:59

I'm leaving, hey,

38:03

if you if

38:05

you weren't saying

38:08

things to make me cry, I wouldn't be crying

38:11

there. You go, look at that. It's your fault.

38:13

Let's get into something else as

38:15

as loving and as exciting as this is.

38:17

I asked Hallie for permission to talk about another

38:19

story that didn't sway the same way as

38:22

sit in Joshi poo um,

38:24

how you recently had a pretty interesting dating

38:26

situation. You've had quite the

38:28

traumatic experiences the past. Was

38:31

it two years? Year? Oh? Just one year?

38:33

It's just one year, just one year. You've had

38:35

a pretty, um, pretty intense history.

38:38

First, before we get into seven, let's go into

38:40

tree Boy. Because tree Boy it's it's

38:43

kind of not to say

38:45

classic. Do she cheating boyfriend.

38:50

It's a classic story,

38:52

correct me, you tell tell us, give us the

38:54

thirty second version of what happened. Dated

39:00

dated for about three to

39:02

four months. I don't even right, was staying

39:04

with my parents because I

39:07

didn't work out of his house. And

39:10

as I was out of town and he was staying at

39:12

my parents, a girl messes me

39:14

letting me know that he was messaging her on

39:17

Tinderchat

39:19

trying to get trying to get nudes.

39:22

And we

39:24

had to call his sister to go pick him up because he

39:26

was using a car. Things

39:29

took an ugly. He ended up in a tree, ladies.

39:33

Yeah, he ended up in a tree, and like in

39:36

a tree like um like hiding just

39:39

to clear physically

39:41

in a tree, hiding in the snow like it's we're in

39:44

Utah, guys, December decem. This

39:46

all happened. We don't need to give time to that

39:48

because honestly, that's just that's just classic

39:51

doche boy, This one takes it to the next seven,

39:53

takes it to the only wait, the only

39:55

thing that I will say to the ladies

39:57

listening to this podcast

40:00

us never never

40:03

did a guy who will

40:05

only buy flowers if you have to

40:07

give them money, just

40:10

saying that I'm just gon ouch ouch

40:12

ouch. You should never give your

40:15

boyfriend money to get and

40:17

that is on my good friend period. Um

40:21

let's get into seven though, because seven, I like to

40:23

call this whole story side check exception, because

40:27

that we just gotta let's let's we don't need

40:29

to make it too long, but tell

40:31

us what happened with seven. I like, oh

40:33

my gosh, I was. I was star struck. Um,

40:37

you tell us the story. So

40:41

Seven and I classic

40:44

met over social media. We lived

40:46

in different countries, so

40:48

the beginning and the end of our whole

40:51

relationship was not even relationship.

40:54

Friendship and just talking for a long time was

40:56

over messaging and FaceTime.

41:00

Um, we did meet two

41:02

times. I met him

41:04

once for weekend, Dad met him. I met him once,

41:06

Dad met him twice and we were both, oh

41:08

my gosh, talk about being not protective

41:10

at all. We were both like, yes, do you think

41:14

he's such a great guy? Oh

41:16

yeah, yeah. And this was after tree. We

41:18

were like just happy she had found she had jumped right out

41:20

of tree. I mean, we're she jumped out the tree and got

41:23

straight into seven and it was awesome.

41:27

Yeah, So I

41:29

was I think that that made me more into it

41:31

also, just because you

41:34

and Dad were so like, he's such a

41:36

great guy. How like good job,

41:39

um, but long

41:41

story, short message for a long

41:43

time, and his

41:45

friends followed me. I followed his friends.

41:49

Was on the close friends story on Instagram,

41:52

and I could see that he was

41:55

getting close with another girl. So like a respectful

41:57

woman, I cut communication

41:59

off so that he could go and date

42:02

this girl, which he did. And

42:04

then after I don't

42:06

know how long it was, maybe a couple of months of

42:08

them let me pausitively wait and let me pause you really quick,

42:10

because I want to point out one thing. That is

42:12

why I call it side exception is because

42:14

when you guys were like talking, I remember you being like,

42:17

yo, I think he might be talking to this other girl while

42:19

he was telling you, like like he

42:21

was emotionally with you. But then you'd

42:23

see posts and stuff and you'd be like, yo, I

42:25

think that she's like I think I'm being

42:27

I think she's like his side chicken he's and I'm just

42:30

being like played, yes,

42:32

so go back. And

42:34

it was all like I wanna move

42:36

to America for you, I want to marry

42:39

you. I'm gonna you know,

42:41

I want the whole nine with you right then,

42:44

after multiple times of asking him

42:46

about this girl, found

42:48

out that they've been

42:50

dating since Funny

42:53

nineteen the beginning twenty nineteen, and

42:56

his excuse to her about me was, Oh,

42:58

she's just a friend. But still would

43:01

be like, ah Holle so perfect,

43:03

she's everything, Like she's

43:05

way too good for me to this girlfriend,

43:08

he's very manipulative to her, would

43:10

make her feel crazy if she ever asked about me

43:12

Boom. Haven't talked to him since,

43:15

haven't you know? I talked to his X

43:18

like more lately than I talked to

43:20

him. But that's what we call

43:23

side chick exception. It's when you think that

43:25

they have a side chick, but you're actually

43:27

the side chick. That side exception,

43:31

that is, it was one of the crazy, it's one of

43:33

the that you could write a movie about that side exception.

43:35

UM copyrighting it here on this podcast.

43:38

UM. I think the thing that's like interesting

43:41

about the four of us, and we never even meant for

43:43

it, is that we all have our dating

43:45

histories. All four of us are all so

43:49

wildly different, and

43:51

we all teach each other something like Sydney

43:53

obviously is a great example

43:55

of when you know you know, and and not being

43:58

afraid to pursue your heart, um,

44:01

even though I've said when you know you know with about

44:03

six girls and none

44:05

of them were true. And then I finally

44:07

switched it up a little bit and and met

44:09

and met uh and met Madison. Um.

44:12

Holly is a great example of like

44:14

of guess like not rebounding,

44:17

but like what's it called when you like get back after

44:19

like bad ship happens, like brush

44:22

your shoulders off and bounce back, bouncing

44:24

back. Last night took an out, last night

44:27

wasn't a tree, but tonight we bounced back. Last

44:29

night was side check, but tonight we bounced back. And I'm waiting

44:31

for this bounce back. It's gonna better than ever. If you live in Salt

44:33

Lake City, go and date my sisters, um.

44:36

And then last but not least, Taylor, who you

44:38

have the most loving

44:40

heart as we've speak, we've we've talked about

44:42

and you are so willing to give yourself to

44:45

h in terms of emotionally, in terms of mentally,

44:48

in terms of giving your energy to people like you're

44:50

so good at that, Um, Tony

44:54

physically give usself to somebody.

44:56

Did Here's something did

44:59

Taylor did Taylor come home when she was

45:01

at Buyu Whoaii with some higgies on her neck. What nightnest.

45:07

But no, I think that Taylor is like you. We

45:09

all teach each other, and the biggest thing that Taylor teaches

45:11

is self love, because Taylor is the

45:14

ultimate. As much as she she can joke

45:16

about how she's you know, she's not

45:18

good at this or she's not good at that, she is

45:20

the greatest person at listening

45:22

to herself and giving herself self love. And

45:25

she's the only person that I go to when I

45:27

need to understand that sometimes loving

45:29

somebody else has to stop and loving

45:32

yourself has to start um And

45:34

I think that that's the best part. We all come from different walks

45:36

of life, we all have different sets of knowledge, which

45:38

is why we're gonna take a quick break, and this last segment

45:40

is going to be something we've never done on this podcast before,

45:43

answering fans questions

45:45

about dating advice. Don't go anywhere,

45:49

al Right, we are back. This is my favorite

45:51

episode, most likely of of this podcast

45:53

ever with my three sisters, and we're talking about

45:56

dating advice, and it's time

45:58

that we get into something we've never done before. But

46:00

we probably are going to do again because it seems pretty

46:02

fun. We I asked everybody on my

46:04

Instagram story to comment some questions

46:06

that they have about dating advice

46:09

and and I figured, since all three of us, like I mentioned

46:11

before, have such a we

46:14

can we combine for such a well rounded

46:16

dating experience. Um, we could

46:18

probably give some pretty good answers.

46:21

Uh, let's get into

46:23

this first question. I have one. Um, is

46:25

there a such thing as right person, wrong

46:28

time? Taylor, go for it?

46:32

I don't think so. Actually,

46:35

I think that there

46:38

isn't just one person. Like I

46:40

don't believe in soulmates, like or like that

46:42

you only have one soul mate. I think that it

46:45

would be unfair if we only had one

46:47

shot with one person, because we each get

46:49

to choose who we want to choose. So

46:51

I think it might be the right person

46:53

to you, but if it's not reciprocated,

46:55

then you're not their right person. So

46:58

it's not about timing because if it, if

47:01

you both are the right person for each other, timing

47:04

doesn't matter. Mm hmmm. So

47:07

if you're not, if it's right

47:09

person, wrong time, they were the right person for you,

47:11

but you were the right person for them, I think

47:14

it's also to you times

47:16

a man made construct. So I actually

47:18

think that it's all. There's

47:21

no such thing. What is time? You know what I mean? Not

47:23

true at all. I think time is great. Um,

47:26

Sydney, give us an answer. Um.

47:29

The only reason I'm gonna throw out

47:31

a yes is because

47:34

my husband met me when I was seventeen.

47:37

I was a little young. I was obviously

47:39

underaged, so we did

47:41

not date till I was twenty.

47:44

So right the

47:46

wrong time when I was seventeen, Okay, okay,

47:49

time when I was when.

47:56

I also want to point out, just because Josh is a

47:58

Josh, Josh isn't here to to correct

48:01

something, not that it needs correcting. Josh

48:03

dated other girls. Josh did not wait for you

48:05

while you were seventeen to eighteen. That's

48:07

a very strong detail that needs

48:09

to wait for Neither

48:11

of you guys waited for each other. You just happened to meet

48:13

when you were younger, and then you eventually ended up

48:15

dating. Once it was there, it was gone, it

48:17

came back, it was a whole new thing. I want to point

48:20

that out because I have to protect Josh because he's one of my

48:22

best friends in the whole world. Um,

48:24

Hallie, do you have a question for us that you got.

48:26

Oh, sorry, I forgot to point this out. Halle also did

48:28

the questions things, so we're bouncing back and forth in some

48:30

good questions. This one,

48:32

actually I want you to answer, do

48:34

you think that girls should make the first move?

48:37

If so, what should the girl do to make

48:39

the move? Oh, this is a

48:41

tough one because again, and I want to I want to remind

48:43

everybody that we are speaking in

48:46

the with the pronouns that

48:48

are applied directly to our own love lives

48:50

and our own preferences. Um, but this advice

48:52

goes across the board for anybody

48:54

of any walk of life. That being said,

48:56

in my own personal experience, you

48:59

know, mom and dad, Like, mom and dad were always so

49:01

traditional in the dating ways. You

49:03

know, Dad is always super like be chivalrous,

49:06

and Mom is always super like I

49:08

have a chivalrous man um And

49:11

so I always loved like, I

49:13

loved being

49:15

the person to ask and being the person

49:17

to pay like. And that's just something that was that

49:20

honestly, I had to unlearn in today's environment,

49:22

like I had to unlearn and relearned

49:24

that if a girl approaches me and

49:27

like, let me take you out, that's

49:29

like super cool. So I'm gonna answer the question

49:31

in that context and say I think that girls

49:34

should not be afraid to make the first move, but

49:36

should not feel obliged if a man isn't

49:38

making the first move, if that makes sense, And

49:41

the same for anybody. Any human should not feel

49:43

obliged just because they like somebody, because sometimes

49:45

somebody else not reaching out may mean that they're

49:47

not interested, but also it may not mean. So

49:50

I always have the same lame

49:52

go back answer with follow your heart, um

49:55

and and don't be afraid of what that takes you

49:57

to any anybody have anything to add

49:59

to that. If you have feelings for someone, act

50:02

on them, because what's the worst.

50:04

They're gonna say. No, you're getting

50:06

a know whether you whether

50:08

you try or not. Let me tell you what the worst is.

50:11

Let me tell you what the worst is. The worst is you confess

50:13

your feelings for somebody. They screenshot that text

50:15

message they posted on social media. It ends up

50:17

on the Ellen Show. They end up on the Ellen Show.

50:20

They call you out by name. We've been respectful

50:22

on this show. They call you out by name. They start making

50:24

t shirts of you, calling you a weirdo. You become

50:26

the new kind of Jared from subway post prison

50:28

situation and you're just your life

50:30

is ruined. Okay,

50:34

to you, to you, all

50:37

right, here's a here's a new question. Um,

50:39

I'm catching feelings for one of my closest

50:42

friends and I don't know how to tell them.

50:45

Okay, I have a little

50:47

kind of the opposite of that. I got my

50:50

best friend told me he's in love with me, and his dodging

50:52

talking about it with Okay, so let's answer both sides.

50:54

Who's got an answer for each side said

50:56

go for it? Okay.

50:59

So well, I wasn't ready to

51:01

answer this. I was kind of like doing a little I

51:04

was inating. Yeah,

51:07

I'm gonna throw out answer off the top of my head. If

51:11

you have, like going on what Taylor said, if you have

51:13

feelings for your best friend, like you

51:15

gotta approach that, you got to talk about it.

51:18

You've got to say something like sitting

51:20

there doing nothing is only going

51:22

to probably hurt

51:24

you in the end, Like your feelings are going

51:26

to be recuper kate because you never put them

51:29

out on the table, or you'll never get a yes or

51:31

no answer if you don't talk about it.

51:33

So my answer would be for

51:35

Alex's question, you should

51:37

absolutely talk about it and say it, and that kind

51:39

of goes with all he's too, because if

51:42

he said how he feels, but now he's not talking

51:44

about it, like you have to

51:46

have that open communication either way

51:49

and be honest. What about being afraid

51:51

though, like you know, I remember remember

51:53

my song that I wrote? What was it called?

51:56

Um? Which one no the what

51:59

it's like? It? Can't be afraid to try

52:01

and see what's on the other side when you

52:03

know the graph is marina um.

52:06

There's in that line it says, and we both

52:08

know how we feel for one another, but we're

52:10

too scared to tell each other because if we cross the

52:12

line and and it isn't right, will

52:14

it ruin every chance of being friends? What about that thought?

52:17

Because sometimes you might have a feeling for

52:19

somebody right, like man, I do wonder what it's like

52:21

like, or I wonder what would be like to date that person?

52:24

How do you balance how strong that feeling is

52:26

versus if you do say how you

52:28

feel and then like, as this is

52:30

this might be a hot take, but as much as people

52:33

say, it's not going to ruin your friendship if

52:35

one of you likes the other person, and that person says not

52:37

I don't like you back there, It's like

52:39

there's no chance, Like as much as

52:42

you want to believe that that both sides

52:44

of the party can fully like flush

52:46

out those emotions and be like, yeah, we're just friends, I

52:49

just don't think that that's true. I feel like

52:51

one thing we do have in common is that we

52:53

all love hard, and

52:56

so for us, like, I don't think

52:58

that's ever the case. It's to be like just

53:00

friends after you've like right,

53:02

right right, there might be some other

53:04

people. There might be some other people. What do you think to if

53:07

you look at it in a sense

53:09

of Okay, I like my best

53:11

friend as more than

53:13

just a friend, and weighing

53:15

out like the options of like

53:18

I'm going to forever be pining over

53:20

this person, but he is my best friend,

53:23

or I'm going to tell him now

53:26

risk losing him but also possibly

53:29

gaining exactly what I want the

53:32

risk versus a reward. If

53:34

you're going to risk your friendship and

53:36

you're like, the reward is so much

53:38

better than the alternative.

53:41

Wouldn't you rather get out of a

53:43

friendship where that relationship

53:46

is never going to be reciprocated, then

53:48

risk it and then lose it. Yeah, you gotta

53:51

do risk analysis across the board, like you got

53:53

to risk it for the biscuit exactly.

53:55

You should have just said that that makes sense. Okay,

53:58

that makes sense. How what

54:00

do you got for us? You have any other questions? My

54:03

boy do asked how

54:05

to be persistent but not annoying? So

54:10

I love like communication

54:13

is huge for me, So I love

54:15

and I love when like guys put an

54:17

effort. So I think

54:19

that's very important to be persistent, But

54:21

I can see where it can come to a like

54:24

to be an annoyance, especially for certain girls.

54:26

Comparing me and my best friend, I

54:29

definitely like more quality time and

54:31

that's not as important to her. So being persistent

54:34

to me I love, But

54:37

to some people like I don't know, being

54:39

persistent or putting

54:42

in a lot of effort could be a

54:44

lot to somebody. You know, Taylor,

54:47

I think a better word is consistent

54:50

than persistent. If you are consistent,

54:53

if you come and you say, hey,

54:55

I want to take you on a date, if you enjoyed

54:57

it, ask me out on another date, or

55:00

if you like, if you're interested in someone and

55:03

you're too afraid to like kind of you know, have a dtr

55:06

right after you, like you had your first date.

55:08

It's just being consistent of like, hey,

55:12

can I take you out again? If they say no,

55:14

be like would there be another time that

55:16

I could take you out and then go from

55:19

there? Or if they

55:21

like cut you off from the get go, then

55:24

then you shut it down. But if you

55:26

have someone who is playing games

55:29

like oh well maybe, then you

55:31

cut them off. There's

55:33

no don't be consistent with someone

55:35

who can't reciprocate

55:38

that interest. It's always something no

55:40

matter how cute or how attractive

55:43

they are or how much you think that they're going

55:45

to be the love of your life. Come

55:48

off. That's a great that's great advice. This next

55:50

question is solely for Sydney

55:52

because she's the only one who has an answer. Um,

55:55

it's a question says I've been dating my girl

55:58

for a few years now, and I can't tell

56:00

if I know she's the one or not. I

56:03

have obviously no experience in

56:05

this answer. Um, Cinny, how do

56:07

you know when you know? Uh?

56:10

This is this

56:13

is a hard question because I

56:15

don't necessarily think I agree

56:17

with Taylor in the sense or when

56:20

she's talked about how I don't

56:22

believe like everyone has one soul mate

56:24

out there, So I think

56:26

you it's about kind of choosing your

56:28

path and if that person is

56:30

the path you want to go. Um,

56:34

it's not necessarily about like if

56:36

they're the one, but like choosing them

56:38

and fully committing to them,

56:41

and like it's a choice. So

56:44

whether he wants to be with or he doesn't, he needs to

56:46

figure that out and stick with

56:48

his decision and put all his effort

56:50

into that decision of like choosing

56:53

her every day, choosing her for

56:57

the next few months, choosing

56:59

her and seeing where that takes them.

57:01

Obviously marriage

57:03

had been quick for me, but I don't think that's

57:06

necessarily should be anyone's goal. I think

57:08

it's just about where your choices

57:10

take you. And if you're choosing her every day

57:12

and it leads to that, then there

57:15

you a Taylor's crying again if

57:18

actually, do you see my face?

57:20

No tears for

57:23

me. When I met Josh

57:25

and we started talking marriage, uh,

57:29

we kind of had an interesting timeline, but we

57:32

just kind of both chose to choose each other and that led

57:34

us to wanting to get married and

57:36

wanting to be together and wanting to start

57:38

a family and YadA YadA, Okay,

57:42

someone asked, how do I properly ghost

57:44

someone? Oh? This is good. I

57:46

like this one. I like this one. What is your

57:49

guys? I need help. I need help in this

57:51

because I think that sometimes

57:53

I am very

57:55

friendly upfront, and then it's

57:59

like, oh, make signals.

58:02

People mistake your kindness for interest.

58:06

Yes, Taylor is nodding

58:08

like she just did this yesterday. No,

58:11

No, I know. I'm just saying

58:14

this is something that I've been working on actively

58:18

because I am actively dating, and like

58:21

how I're saying, like communication is

58:23

key, Like don't

58:25

be afraid to be the person that

58:28

has the bigger balls. It

58:30

takes balls to be a

58:32

decent human being. It takes balls

58:34

to have like the confidence to say,

58:37

hey, I'm really interested in

58:39

you, or hey, you are such a great

58:41

person. But that's just respecting

58:44

someone at a like bottom

58:47

bottom level. I think it's very

58:50

I think it's very easy to be a

58:52

douche bag and to be like,

58:55

to disrespect whoever

59:00

you're trying to ghost. I think that's the easy

59:02

way out, is to do

59:04

it the wrong way or you know,

59:06

like the way that will hurt them the most.

59:09

I think that being like upfront, and

59:12

I'm even still learning this like being up front

59:15

and being honest about like your feelings is

59:18

so much better on both ends

59:20

because when you learn and you you learn to

59:23

you know, to grow it and to make

59:25

as you do it. Yeah, yeah, exactly

59:28

what works for you and what doesn't work. Obviously,

59:30

I've been out on a dating game, and when I

59:33

was in the dating game, like ghosting

59:36

wasn't a thing like it

59:38

was. I mean, obviously there's

59:40

more like dating apps were really

59:42

new when I was when I met

59:44

Josh, like I didn't really like I

59:47

maybe is Tinder a couple of times before,

59:49

but like I think ghost so I

59:52

know that upon a time. I

59:57

know that it's different now. But to

1:00:00

me and maybe this

1:00:02

is like old fashioned. You guys are gonna realized.

1:00:04

But I don't really get it because,

1:00:07

like Hallie's saying, I just don't understand

1:00:09

why it's that hard to just be like

1:00:12

I'm sorry, I'm not interested, or I'm

1:00:14

sorry I just view you as a friend, or

1:00:16

like I'm actually seeing

1:00:18

someone right now. I don't get that.

1:00:21

And so when people talk

1:00:23

about ghosting, I'm like, if

1:00:25

anything, for my sisters, my

1:00:28

single sisters, if someone ghosted

1:00:30

you, first of all, of course I'm

1:00:32

gonna say their loss. But also like, to

1:00:34

me, that's just such a turn off of someone

1:00:37

who can't just be upfront and

1:00:39

own their feelings or own whatever

1:00:42

their situation is, whether they're dating

1:00:44

someone or what. Like,

1:00:50

it's such a turn off I feel like because

1:00:53

it's childish and it's immature, and

1:00:56

you don't want that anyways. I

1:00:59

think, I think in today's I think in today's

1:01:02

climate of where we are in the world,

1:01:05

uh I I kind of you ghosting

1:01:07

is like ghosting in my opinion as

1:01:09

a definition, is one person's

1:01:11

got to reach out at least twice

1:01:14

with no response, like I think

1:01:16

somebody like if both of you guys just choose not to

1:01:18

talk. I think it's just like, yeah, it's the it's

1:01:20

the old traditional way of like neither you went on

1:01:22

a couple of dates even before dating apps or anything.

1:01:25

So you went on a couple of dates and you just didn't go on any more dates

1:01:27

after that. But I think once you break

1:01:29

over into that like hey hope you're

1:01:31

well. If you get the hey hope you're well text

1:01:33

and you don't respond back, I want you to personally

1:01:35

know from my mouth only you're a bit like

1:01:38

you're just a bit you're a Cina, you

1:01:40

were a bit, you are always going to be a bit. And Taylor,

1:01:43

Taylor's got her hand up and I know she's got something

1:01:45

to add. I feel like I'm in school,

1:01:48

like trying to like teacher, teacher calling

1:01:50

me. I really just think

1:01:52

that it's people being

1:01:54

too afraid to get

1:01:57

hurt because you know, you have your

1:01:59

first relations and ship and you're just open and

1:02:01

you're here for it and your love and you're like

1:02:03

a puppy love of like oh my gosh, like

1:02:06

I love this person and you get heartbroken, but whether

1:02:09

like whenever it is, you get heartbroken,

1:02:11

and then you build up that wall and you build up that wall

1:02:13

and you're like, I'm never going to fill this way again because I

1:02:15

don't want to be heartbroken. And

1:02:18

ghosting is people wont

1:02:20

playing games and like so

1:02:23

that you're not in it enough.

1:02:26

You're not in it enough to get hurt,

1:02:28

but you're still in it. And

1:02:31

also it's playing games,

1:02:33

but it's people want to have the upper hand.

1:02:36

They want to have that prid of like oh yeah I didn't

1:02:38

text him back. Yes, people want

1:02:40

power. Yeah. When people tell me

1:02:42

that, and like, you know, you

1:02:45

never wanted a relationship you wanted

1:02:47

control. You wanted to control

1:02:49

another person. You wanted someone

1:02:51

who was going to do things

1:02:53

for you, like it

1:02:56

was never about a reciprocated

1:03:00

relationship, whether it's friendship

1:03:02

or a romantic relationship.

1:03:05

You want when Taylor's and if you're not,

1:03:07

if you are going to go someone, I'm

1:03:09

saying like, if you go on one day and you just

1:03:11

don't talk, no one reaches out to another person

1:03:14

whatever, clear slight,

1:03:17

move on to the next one. But if you are

1:03:19

talking to someone for longer

1:03:21

than five

1:03:23

days, if you've gone on more than two dates,

1:03:26

like, be upfront, be honest,

1:03:29

human being care. That's

1:03:31

it. When Taylor's hands start

1:03:33

making when Taylor's hands get blurry on the screen

1:03:35

because she's moving that fast, and you know she's spitting heat.

1:03:38

Like when Taylor's hands are doing this one and you're like,

1:03:40

I can't even see where your hand actually look like doctor,

1:03:42

you look like doctor strange, that's

1:03:44

when you know she's spitting heat. I have one

1:03:46

last question as we close this out, and this

1:03:48

one is going to be um I want I want

1:03:50

this one to be just like a one sentence answer because

1:03:52

I know that we can get pretty heavy into this question.

1:03:55

What is the one piece of dating advice

1:03:57

you wish you knew when you

1:03:59

were younger that you want other people to

1:04:01

know. Um, I'll go first, this

1:04:04

one's mine. Hey, you're not

1:04:06

in love. Okay,

1:04:10

honestly, Holly,

1:04:13

go for it. I'm

1:04:16

gonna going more cheesy. Okay, know

1:04:18

your work. Yes,

1:04:23

that's a

1:04:25

good one, Sydney, give it to us. Okay,

1:04:28

I'm gonna This is about working yourself.

1:04:30

It's just gonna be be who

1:04:32

you want to love. So whoever

1:04:35

you're looking for, you need to be that

1:04:37

person to damn,

1:04:40

we got heating. I don't know a family. I don't

1:04:42

know Lewis family. Go crazy with the quotes,

1:04:45

Taylor, give us the saying, give us

1:04:47

the solo dol final quo,

1:04:49

Loo I wrote, mine

1:04:54

would be if I love

1:04:57

me, it doesn't matter who else loves me. If

1:05:00

if I'm secure within myself, you

1:05:03

can let me even not compliment

1:05:06

me, don't love me. Take

1:05:08

out my sentence and throw the three

1:05:10

of them into a on a on a card and

1:05:12

give it to every every person who gets heartbroken.

1:05:15

Like the three of those quotes, Mine started

1:05:17

off and it was true for me, Like bro, like

1:05:19

I said, I love you too. Too many women

1:05:24

and it just wasn't true. Like I like, it's insane.

1:05:27

I could talk for days about how like what real

1:05:29

love feels like and it's way cool and I wish I could

1:05:31

take it back. But the three of you guys quotes,

1:05:33

I'd like, I don't know if I want to cry or like

1:05:35

scream those quotes or go and tell Dylan

1:05:38

because he needs those as well. But

1:05:41

those your those that's your advice if

1:05:43

you're listening to this, that is, don't listen

1:05:46

to mind because you probably you might be in love with the person.

1:05:48

I don't know. For me, it just wasn't I say it too fast? Um,

1:05:50

But no, your word. There are a lot of girls

1:05:52

out there that are like Outsiono told

1:05:54

me that he loved me. I know you

1:05:56

ever think about that? You ever think about

1:05:58

that that there's somebody that thinks you loved

1:06:01

them, and that just isn't fair

1:06:03

to you because you didn't um

1:06:07

that being said. No, you're worth

1:06:09

be who you want to love and if you love

1:06:11

you, it doesn't matter who loves you. Oh

1:06:14

I

1:06:16

I'm in there of Sidney

1:06:18

Taylor, Halle, I love

1:06:20

you, you already know I love you. Guys. I'm gonna cry if I

1:06:22

say too many things, but I love you guys so much

1:06:25

and I'm so happy that you guys are here. You guys have always

1:06:27

been not only the biggest supporters

1:06:29

and um and uh

1:06:33

quality. Um

1:06:35

what's the word? Uh? When

1:06:37

you when you equality? Critique of

1:06:40

for every fast in my life, not just in

1:06:42

dating, but in my whole career. And I would

1:06:44

never be where I am if it wasn't for every

1:06:46

single one of the three of you. Um.

1:06:49

And that's why right now we're doing my favorite part, and

1:06:51

we're doing it. We're doing it real, we're doing it big.

1:06:53

It's called not so shameless promo, where

1:06:55

you oh, here we go, coming in there. We

1:06:57

are about a being about a boom. We're doing half

1:06:59

hearts for everybody. Um,

1:07:01

we're doing oh there

1:07:03

we are. Um, this is not

1:07:05

so shameless promo. Oh

1:07:08

yes, we're doing my mom and my dad's favorite

1:07:11

little hand signal to each other. This

1:07:13

is what we call not so shameless promo. You can

1:07:15

promote absolutely anything on earth,

1:07:17

Hallie, give us your not so shameless promo. Where can

1:07:19

we find you? What are you up to? What do you want

1:07:21

people to get excited about? Let's

1:07:23

go all my socials

1:07:26

are Hallie. No TikTok

1:07:28

guys, I'm super in TikTok. Follow me on

1:07:30

tickto. What's your TikTok name? My

1:07:33

TikTok name is Hallie A O no in

1:07:36

my email guys, if you want to hit my email, everything

1:07:40

is Hallie. I don't know. Can catch her on Omega because

1:07:42

that's what I did. I caught her on Omega, honestly,

1:07:45

sometimes catcher on Omegel, right, that was perfect.

1:07:47

The other thing I want to highlight is that Hallie is an incredible

1:07:49

singer. So you need to look out because I'm gonna

1:07:52

start having her just record and put out as an artist

1:07:54

all of the songs that that I wrote but I'm too afraid

1:07:56

to sing because they're two personal. Um,

1:08:00

you got to look out for that. Sydney,

1:08:02

give us some not so shameless promo. Tell us where we

1:08:04

can find you. Let us know where we can shop

1:08:06

the latest fashion. Let us know where we can find

1:08:09

some good good information on

1:08:11

what we should wear at sid dot

1:08:13

lou uh is

1:08:15

my Instagram account. If

1:08:18

you follow, just pretty prepared to

1:08:20

um see a lot of baby

1:08:22

pictures. Yeah, any

1:08:25

of us I taught you guys to be excited

1:08:27

for? Is that I birthed. Dare

1:08:30

I say the next fiance?

1:08:33

Oh my gosh, they're playing body

1:08:35

Bye Bye Megan the Stallion for my

1:08:37

sweet one year old niece, and she's

1:08:40

already up like the don't

1:08:42

even I'm upset. I don't even know if I should be excited

1:08:44

about it. It is bad. She's shaking her butt

1:08:46

and she's dancing NonStop. She's

1:08:48

working, she's working

1:08:51

with her aunt, she's t working

1:08:53

with her aunts and singing. It's

1:08:55

bad. It's bad news. She still is an

1:08:57

angel no matter what. She'll always be an angel. But

1:09:00

um, sometimes I swear her mom's trying to turn

1:09:02

her into a devil or is the next fiance?

1:09:04

But okay, I also want to shout out truly

1:09:06

though, if you are ever looking, if you're in Los Angeles

1:09:09

and you're looking for a stylist and you're sick of everybody

1:09:11

wearing the same ship, get

1:09:13

yourself a Sydney Lewis to style

1:09:16

you up. She's the reason that I don't look like a homeless

1:09:18

man every single day. So that's where

1:09:20

you get it. You

1:09:23

can you can know if I'm looking bad, it's

1:09:25

not sid. We need to come up with a slogan like

1:09:27

that, like if you're not dressed role, you're not styled

1:09:29

by me. Um. And last,

1:09:31

but absolutely not least Taylor, and

1:09:34

you better be talking about taylored by

1:09:36

Taylor at Taylor. That's

1:09:38

Taylor t A Y l O R t E M

1:09:40

A R I lots

1:09:42

of owls. But

1:09:45

Alex was referring to is

1:09:47

that I have a jeler

1:09:50

shop. If you've ever seen me, she's

1:09:52

I've already worn her jewelry. I've her jewelry

1:09:54

has been featured on Wonderland

1:09:56

magazine across the board. In

1:09:59

all of the photoshoot I've done this year, I've been wearing

1:10:01

my sister's jewelry, so you know it is top

1:10:04

tier. Um and uh. And also want

1:10:06

to point out if you're flying jet Blue and

1:10:08

and it's not in December, it's in January

1:10:10

or February or March, April or May. Uh,

1:10:13

and you see just some fine young man

1:10:15

with Jamma and she's walking down the aisles,

1:10:18

it's my sister. So you better say how handing

1:10:21

out a drink, asking you, asking you if there's

1:10:23

anything else that she can get for you, asking her

1:10:25

if you're asking you if you need some cheese it or some pretzels,

1:10:27

or you're flying jet Blue Mint and you get that little mint

1:10:29

jewelip. Oh wait, no, you don't do Mint. Um,

1:10:32

so never mind. If you're in Mint. If you're in Mint, you

1:10:34

know what, it's the one thing you're not getting out of it. And

1:10:37

this isn't a Jet Blue promo either. Um.

1:10:39

You guys know you go to the back. Yeah,

1:10:42

if you're if you go to Mint, walk back to the bathroom.

1:10:44

Stay what's up to Taylor? Uh? Um?

1:10:49

You know you could always find me at alex

1:10:51

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1:10:53

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1:11:06

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