0:00

My name is Alex, and I cannot imagine how

0:02

shitty it is to date in the pandemic.

0:05

No, no,

0:10

it will be alright forever nor

0:21

forever alright.

0:25

So yeah, like I said, I don't know. I

0:27

don't even know what would it would be like to be single

0:29

right now. I'm very, very fortunate that I have

0:32

an incredible girlfriend that I've dated for

0:34

quite a bit before the pandemic

0:36

started. But when the pandemic started,

0:39

uh, not to give too much personal information,

0:41

she went home to her parents house, about

0:43

like an hour and a half away from where I live, and

0:46

her parents did not want her to leave

0:48

the house at all. So for the first month

0:50

and a half of the pandemic, I

0:52

did not get to see my girlfriend, which

0:54

for me, uh.

0:57

My therapist says that I have something called

1:00

mental health issues, and for me at

1:02

least, I'm a pretty dependent person, so I love

1:04

being with other people. I don't really like being alone.

1:07

So it was not a great time, especially for

1:09

me and and Madison. We fought,

1:12

sorry, Babe, but we didn't. We would

1:14

fight about stupid things, and I would make all this fuss

1:16

about not getting to see her, But eventually

1:19

I got to see her and it was. It was awesome.

1:21

I also, since the pandemic started, moved

1:23

to a new house, which doesn't seem

1:25

like it makes sense right now, but with that new

1:27

house came new roommates. And both of my roommates,

1:30

one of them has been single the whole pandemic

1:32

and the other was in a relationship

1:35

and that relationship ended during

1:37

the pandemic, so now is also single. So I got

1:39

two single roommates, ladies. But if you

1:41

are single and you live in Los Angeles, actually

1:44

no, I can't say that. Damn it, We're in the pandemic.

1:46

That's what this whole episode is about. That's exactly

1:48

why we're having this episode is because through

1:51

all of this madness of

1:53

being single and having to quarantine.

1:55

But also I think one of the biggest things is the

1:58

angry therapist that we have on on one the

2:00

episodes of this podcast said, you're you

2:02

know, we're not meant to live life alone. And

2:04

if you're single and you live away from your family

2:07

and some people don't even have a roommate, and

2:09

we're supposed to be locked away in our houses

2:11

and staying home, it's kind of like the

2:13

opposite of that, Like we're not meant to live life alone, but

2:15

at the same time, don't leave your house. And if

2:18

you live by yourself, tough luck. So what

2:20

got me thinking? How do you

2:22

date during a pandemic? And more importantly

2:25

and more dramatically for Catherine Law who

2:27

wrote this out herself, I think we need this how

2:29

do you fall in love when the world

2:32

falls apart? No?

2:38

What is up everybody? This is let's get

2:40

into it. This is my podcast where we talk about

2:42

everything, things that I go through for the most

2:44

part, but a lot of the times we also talk about things

2:46

that I don't go through, things that I have to kind

2:48

of hear other people's stories about.

2:50

And so today we have an awesome episode

2:53

that is going to get three different views of

2:55

what it's like to date during

2:57

a pandemic. Myself, like I had mentioned,

2:59

I've been in a relationship since before the pandemic,

3:02

and my two guests both have unique stories

3:04

themselves as well. First up, I

3:06

have a DJ podcast engineer,

3:09

podcast producer, podcast editor

3:12

occasional on my personality for I heart

3:14

radio, longtime music lover with the history

3:16

and dance music. As a part of the DJ duo

3:19

Gladiator. He's been recognized at Sweet

3:21

Green ones, Daniel, Daniel

3:24

DJ Daniel good

3:26

Man, what's up for having me? I'm honored

3:28

to be here. How you doing, man, I'm doing

3:30

really well. I'm starting to think after that that might have been my

3:33

best intro I've ever done. And I'm starting to Catherine,

3:35

we need to we need to add some like some

3:37

pump up music, like like as if we're

3:40

yeah, like some basketball coming out

3:42

of basketball intro music.

3:45

Um, Daniel, we're gonna be hearing about

3:47

your dating life and your dating his

3:49

story of being in a pandemic

3:51

and still finding love. I'm

3:53

so excited and with you. We have another story,

3:56

and this one's very interesting. We're gonna

3:58

keep her last name out of it because

4:00

we want the juiciest of the juicy details.

4:03

She is, she lives in

4:06

a place ken I'm not even gonna say we're

4:08

gonna keep it anonymous because I want I want

4:10

the juicy details that I have been told

4:12

are going to come on this episode. So Aside

4:15

from emulating Carrie Bradshaw's dating mishaps,

4:17

she spends much of her free time producing stand

4:19

up comedy, most recently producing outdoor

4:22

shows to raise money for a local nonprofit

4:24

in her own neighborhood. How sweet is it?

4:27

Ali? Last name? How are you? Ali? Last

4:29

name? I'm good, Thanks for having me, Alex.

4:31

I'm so excited to hear these stories. We're

4:34

gonna have some cool topics. We're talking about love during

4:36

the lockdown. That is going to be you and me, big

4:38

big, big d Big Daniel. I'm not

4:40

going to call you big d. I

4:42

felt I was

4:45

going to let it slide, but it felt a little it felt

4:47

a little bit weird with both of our girlfriends. Um

4:50

uh. Then after that, Ali, you and

4:52

I are gonna be talking about a fresh hell of first

4:54

date. I cannot wait for that. Um.

4:57

And then lastly, we have Netflix and

4:59

absolutely zero chill. But

5:01

before we get into those topics, I have a question

5:04

that I ask all of my guests, and that question is

5:06

what are you doing this week to

5:08

improve yourself? Um? I'll go

5:11

first. I've had a craziest stressful

5:13

week. If we're dating or time stamping,

5:15

where this recording is happening, I just finished

5:17

my virtual tour for the Gospel

5:19

of twenty three. I worked with

5:22

two different brands, I sent in

5:24

two different auditions, and it was

5:26

literally it felt like for Monday through Thursday

5:28

from from actually probably Sunday till

5:31

Thursday, I spent maybe

5:33

ten minutes in total not

5:35

working, like not even a lie. I'm either sleeping

5:37

or I was working. And I had ten minutes of of

5:39

a break and uh, and I was getting

5:41

super super stressed and I was being super super hard

5:44

on myself. And in the middle of that, I

5:46

spoke with one of my really really good friends and also

5:48

my girlfriend, who both of them said this

5:50

mantra that I tell everybody, and I'm very

5:52

bad at taking my own advice, but it was one

5:54

thing at a time. You just gotta focus on one thing at a

5:57

time, don't focus on the big picture of everything that

5:59

has to get done, just you know, like Jude

6:01

Weang, the director of our movie Finding

6:03

All Hanna said when we were filming Bird by

6:05

Bird, one thing at a time, we just gotta just gotta

6:07

get it done. So that's something that I've been trying to really implement,

6:10

taking my own advice and doing that.

6:13

That being said, Danield, you got something for me, um

6:16

sure, you know. Very recently, this

6:18

is also a bit of a side note personal story, but a

6:20

third roommate just moved into our apartment

6:23

and with that came kind of a whole new

6:25

energy around uh,

6:28

personal health. We've all been getting into

6:30

working out, so there's three people in the house total.

6:32

We've been getting into working out as a trio

6:35

and being each other's biggest cheerleaders

6:38

and spotters when it comes to stuff like you

6:40

know, bench pressent whatever, but like just

6:42

having a third person in the house to really

6:45

kick up the notch on better physical

6:48

health, mental health, just a little bit of everything.

6:50

And so having having that third person

6:52

in here has been a really really good

6:54

opportunity to kick the working out part

6:56

in the high gear. We We've gotten the

6:59

self low out during the pandemic, and

7:01

now it's the all right, let's kick that back up into

7:04

building up some muscle strength there. Oh, that is

7:06

huge. That is huge, especially with Dylan and

7:08

Sam in my house, that they're the only reason that I

7:10

haven't eaten myself into oblivion, like

7:12

I I very much. That's an incredible

7:14

thing to get al. Al,

7:17

you've got to you got two examples. Give

7:19

us something. What are you doing this week to improve

7:21

yourself? Well, it ties back to dating, and

7:23

I don't want to make it seem like dating is my whole world

7:25

and I'm not gonna lie it seems like it. I'm

7:28

just kidding. I know it's definitely true.

7:30

Like I make a joke that dating is my hobby,

7:33

but it's more like a part time job. But

7:36

really I'm trying to reel back on that and

7:38

not spend so much time on dating apps

7:40

because right now there's really no way

7:43

to meet other people in person,

7:45

so dating apps can be like all consuming like any

7:47

other form of technology. So

7:49

I'm trying to like put limits on how much

7:51

swiping I do. Like fortunately some of

7:53

the apps limited for you, but other ones you can swipe for

7:57

like I'm working from home, so like no, you

8:00

know, I'm trying to be more mindful about

8:02

like how much time I'm spending. So

8:05

I'm trying to invest myself into some other

8:07

projects that are like taking my mind off

8:09

of dating apps and dating because

8:11

it can be very gamy. You

8:13

know. That is that is the perfect

8:16

answer. That is a perfect answer for this

8:18

episode because it is at the end of the day.

8:20

I think one of the takeaways is like you

8:22

gotta still focus on the love part because I think

8:24

digitally it can become, like

8:27

you said, very gamy, and so I love

8:29

that that was your answer, and it was the perfect segue

8:31

for us to get going. So we'll be

8:33

talking with you in just a bit, Ali, but Daniel's

8:35

time for us to go one on one. All Let's do it, baby,

8:38

alright. So Daniel, you have quite the

8:40

story. So I've heard um.

8:42

What before we get into the actual

8:44

pandemic part of it, what was your pre

8:47

quarantine, your pre pandemic dating

8:49

life like, Well, I

8:52

would say pretty average. I was really heavy

8:54

on the apps, just participating in

8:56

your traditional kind of like going to bars

8:59

with friends kind of stuff, and you know, trying

9:01

to do big dinner dates and big friend gatherings,

9:04

just like getting as many people into the mix as

9:06

possible to make it fun. I I love,

9:08

you know, a standard one on one date, but sometimes

9:10

just like playing it up with friends of friends

9:12

and people you've never met before like that always

9:14

just like a great way to you know, just meet new people and hopefully

9:17

somebody really like UM. And

9:19

that was fun. It wasn't really working

9:21

for me. I will also say that, you know, while

9:23

I was on the road for the past like ten years,

9:26

I wasn't dating a whole lot. I was very busy. We

9:28

were gone every weekend, so it just wasn't offering

9:30

a lot of opportunities for me to like I wanted

9:32

to be with someone who I wasn't being like, Okay, well

9:34

you know, i'll see you in like two weeks by. This

9:37

didn't seem fair to me. So yeah,

9:39

my pre pandemic dating life was filled with a

9:41

lot of those kinds of like the occasional

9:43

one on one really standard date,

9:46

but a lot of these kind of like group to get

9:48

together as Korean barbecue kind of gatherings.

9:50

I actually like those though, because even in

9:53

a relationship, I like, but even when

9:55

you're single, I think they're really good because if you're with

9:57

your friends, I feel like you get a little bit more comfortable, You're

9:59

you're more natural old self, whereas on the date,

10:01

you're kind of like playing chess with each

10:03

other, like Okay, what's gonna impress this? You know, Whereas

10:06

with your friends, you kind of forget that you need

10:08

to impress somebody, or you forget that that's

10:10

a thing, and so you get to just kind of be yourself.

10:12

And I feel like that's the most important thing

10:14

I would want someone to the person i'm with to

10:16

see me in my most natural self. There's

10:19

nothing worse than when you date somebody and then like you

10:21

go on the first few dates with them and you're like awesome, nice,

10:23

and then all of a sudden that that is something

10:26

and you're just like, oh, I did not know that

10:29

was you. Well,

10:32

luckily for for you, you get

10:34

to join me in in the being

10:36

in a relationship during a pandemic

10:38

thing. But you're very lucky yours didn't

10:41

start necessarily before,

10:43

you know, a long time before the pandemic

10:45

went crazy. So tell us about that. Our

10:48

first date was February one.

10:51

We all went into lockdown. Belie was March, so

10:54

we had about three weeks of dating before

10:57

everything was shut down. So I

11:00

will say those first couple of dates, we even talked

11:02

about do you hear about this thing going on in China?

11:04

Like you hear they shut down the country pretty

11:06

much, and just those kinds of like very light

11:08

conversations while going to restaurants

11:10

and standing at line at kasun Ori and

11:12

just being like, yeah, crazy stuff, huh. And

11:16

then the pandemic hit

11:18

and we were both a little nervous,

11:20

we were both you know, worried, and we basically

11:23

took three weeks off of seeing each

11:25

other or two weeks off of seeing each other. Because we were

11:27

like, neither of us knew

11:29

what to do, neither of us. I mean, I think, you

11:32

know, it's a pretty common feeling.

11:34

At the very beginning of all this, we were like what

11:36

what what is actually happening right

11:38

now? And we took basically two

11:40

weeks apart where we talked every day

11:43

and just about how much we were like, wait, we were really

11:45

going. We had such a good first three

11:47

dates and then just like shut down completely.

11:49

It was it was weird, but there was

11:51

definitely something about it that drew us so much

11:53

closer right at the start. So how did

11:56

you know, though, Like, how did like I obviously because

11:58

this is the thing is is we

12:00

would like you have to remember because it feels like it's been

12:02

forever, but remember that rush of

12:04

the pan when it first started, you were like I

12:06

can't, I gotta people were like stalking

12:09

toilet paper because they thought they were never gonna

12:11

have to like we could never leave our houses

12:13

again. So it's not just that like,

12:15

oh, I like you, we should keep talking, but it's

12:17

also like I'm willing to like

12:20

brave the final days with you, you

12:22

know, like it was a serious

12:25

thing. It was, it was very serious and

12:27

it's funny that you mentioned that in particular because

12:29

one of our and and you know, my girlfriend

12:31

might not not kill me, but she she might

12:34

laugh at the fact that I'm telling one of our inside jokes

12:36

to the podcast nation. But I just think the story

12:38

is so funny and it's so emblematic of like what

12:40

made us fall in love really was.

12:44

After that two weeks I had

12:46

picked up. I picked her up, by

12:49

the way, her name is Stephanie. I have forgot to mention

12:51

that at the start, and as to meet you virtually

12:53

podcast wise, Stephanie exactly

12:56

perfect. So after

12:58

we had taken our two weeks off from seeing each other, I picked

13:01

her up because we were going to she needed,

13:03

you know, she had a prescription to pick up. We're going to pick it

13:05

up going back to her place, and we were kind of really

13:08

mulling over the potential

13:10

of what's going on now.

13:13

A little backstory is as a podcast

13:15

producer on this network, I worked with one of

13:18

one of the people in the network named Robert Evans,

13:20

and Robert Evans is like a war journalist.

13:23

He does a show call behind the Bastards. We're not here

13:25

to plug that. But that's just a bit of context,

13:27

give it, give it some love. I heart Radial family goes

13:31

behind the bastards. But as

13:33

a gift for working on this show, you know,

13:36

I think a lot of podcast people you

13:38

get like a you know, basket of cookies,

13:40

some you know, a nice personal self care gift,

13:43

Robert gave me a knife. Robert

13:46

gave me a knife for working on his show. He said, Damn,

13:48

I really appreciate you. Protect yourself. Here's a knife.

13:50

Here's a knife. Yes, here's a knife.

13:52

I need you to explain this knife. Like what kind of knife

13:55

is this? We gotta we gotta figure out what kind of NiFe we're going. We're

13:57

talking it is this CRC

14:00

KAT CRKT Like three here

14:02

damage you got? You could you could do some damage

14:04

with that knife. I mean he really

14:07

he really get I found it. I was like, this is this

14:09

is a real knife. You gave me a real knife. He was like,

14:11

yes, it is for you for protection. I like, Robert,

14:13

Now I'm scared. Anyway, So we're

14:16

talking, We're talking about these

14:18

um talking about the potential of like you know, where

14:20

we're going, what we're doing. She's like, what, like what if

14:22

the city is overrun? Like what

14:24

if? What if things really go wild, and I was like,

14:27

look, I will

14:29

be here to protect you, like we're in this together

14:31

now, I'm not going anywhere. We are in

14:33

this together and I will be here

14:36

to protect you. And almost like in a tear eyed

14:38

moment, she goes and

14:40

she says, is it because of your knife?

14:43

And we both both

14:46

just burst out laughing. We were having this supertense

14:48

serious moment. She's just like, is

14:51

it because of your knife? Man?

14:53

And I gotta tell you something as

14:55

a boyfriend who knows exactly how that

14:57

feels when you're really trying to pour it out to

15:00

like I'm really trying to show you, and

15:02

they come through and it wasn't even meant like

15:04

like you're just like, ah, what a

15:06

hilarious moment. We just died

15:08

in the car. It was great. That is classic.

15:11

That is classic. So how

15:13

long was the time then from pandemic

15:16

starts to like, okay, I

15:18

want to see you, like I want to physically

15:20

be in your presence, not just like we should

15:23

talking. Sure, it was probably I would

15:25

say it was two weeks. We took the quarantine

15:27

idea seriously like we have been We have been seeing

15:29

each other pretty much like every couple of days up

15:32

until March thirteenth, when we both got

15:34

the we're out of the office working from home

15:36

order, and we just tearfully admitted

15:39

that we probably shouldn't see each other for two weeks just to

15:41

be safe. Wow, And it

15:43

was the right, science e thing to do. We were

15:45

like, Okay, two weeks off entirely, let's just not you

15:48

know, no contact, both of us, stay at home,

15:50

no, no grocery store, no nothing, no

15:53

whatever. But honestly, those two

15:55

weeks of like just talking

15:57

to each other and being our main point

15:59

of contact, being like our rock for each

16:01

other in those moments, was so it just

16:03

built such a foundation of us, like

16:06

basically going through the trauma

16:09

together in the first month

16:11

of our relationship, like going through all

16:14

of like the you

16:16

say, it's those big, scary global events that

16:18

really define how you each see

16:20

each other. And I feel like we went through that global

16:22

defining moment three weeks into

16:25

our relationship, and yeah,

16:27

we really got to see our true colors and our true

16:29

selves in that moment, and I think it really

16:32

helped us, you know, kind of pick up

16:34

the Okay, well we're really

16:36

we're really talking about all the serious ship, right here straight

16:39

off the bat, right right. Well,

16:42

you talked about earlier, UM with

16:44

the with the exercising bit, that you have roommates,

16:46

and I think the biggest thing for me before

16:48

I got to see my girlfriend. If you've

16:50

listened to my Found Family episode,

16:53

UM, this the same time frame, I was living

16:55

with my best friend's parents, and

16:58

on top of my girlfriend having

17:01

to convince her parents, I had to convince

17:03

my found parents. My Found Family

17:05

parents too. Are not convince

17:07

them, but make sure that they were okay with it. And luckily

17:10

they said, you know, make sure she gets tested, make

17:12

sure she's been quarantined for you know, for a

17:14

long time, nobody that she's been with has

17:17

it. And then they're okay with

17:19

her coming over. She's still even when the first

17:21

few times she came over, she would come over, go

17:24

straight to my room, jump in the shower. I would

17:26

take her clothes, put them in a plastic bag, go

17:28

downstairs, throw them in the Washington like we were. We

17:30

were real deal about it. So

17:33

I want to ask you about your roommates because

17:35

especially with uh now having

17:38

roommates who aren't kind of parental,

17:40

you know, I looked at Mickey and Sandy has like staring.

17:43

I had to go ask for permission. You know, you're

17:45

paying your rent, you are free to

17:47

do in your space whatever. In my own opinion,

17:50

when you pay rent, if you have roommates, it's like the

17:52

common areas. I think it's always a good move

17:54

to ask permission or ask like, hey, are you guys cool

17:56

with this? But your own space, like you should be allowed

17:58

to do whatever you want. How did your roommates

18:00

go about about you being in a

18:02

relationship and having this girlfriend

18:04

eventually over to your house? Great

18:07

question, you know, I think in all things

18:09

in life, it's about communication. We're all

18:11

very open and honest with each other. They knew that I

18:13

was in a new relationship. They knew it was something that was fresh,

18:15

and that was something that was feeling good, and

18:18

we all just came to the similar consensus

18:20

that like, look, we have to get tested on a semi

18:22

regular basis just as a good health thing. Yes,

18:26

we'll mostly stay in my areas

18:28

of the house. But everybody just had

18:30

a kind of common understanding that as long as we're

18:32

all obeying the rules and

18:35

our pod is as small as possible,

18:37

then it can be safe. Thankfully, my girlfriend Stephanie

18:40

doesn't live with anybody. She has no roommates, So

18:43

basically our life was me either going

18:45

there or picking her up and bringing her to our

18:47

place, and just going back and forth between those

18:49

two places. And that's pretty much. That

18:52

was like our entire physical contact. And so I mean,

18:55

I will say for you know, for her, I

18:57

have to imagine that like living alone during this

19:00

time, it's gonna be tough. And

19:02

she was very thankful to be able to come to the

19:04

house and just be around people right

19:07

now when you know that

19:09

is at this point a luxury. Yeah,

19:11

what, So what surprised you the most about? Luckily

19:14

of cool roommates? So you guys got to spend time together,

19:16

But what surprised you the most? You mentioned

19:18

that in big world events you

19:20

find out a lot about your significant

19:22

others. But what surprised you about

19:25

it? I think for me, the biggest thing is like to keep

19:27

my girlfriend happy and excited and keep myself

19:29

excited and us engaged really like full

19:31

throttle almost honeymoon phase esque for

19:34

longer than the honeymoon phase. Is to like we

19:36

would go out on dates and surprises

19:38

and go on adventures and do this,

19:41

that and the other. Luckily,

19:43

me and my girlfriend were at a place where we loved. We

19:45

prefer just being at home laying in

19:47

bed watching Netflix. So

19:49

when we had when we were forced to do that, we weren't.

19:52

You know, it wasn't as big of an issue. But I also know

19:54

that early in the dating stages, if that was a situation,

19:57

UM, we would have felt a lot differently about

19:59

it. So what else surprised you about

20:01

this moment where you're in the early dating

20:03

stage is still you're not even necessarily

20:06

and maybe you are, but um, for

20:09

for for most people, like you're not like fully

20:11

in love, You're not like this is the one

20:14

totally, but you're forced to do the

20:16

kind of old married couple routine. You

20:19

know. So what surprised to you the most in that time?

20:21

UM, I will say, you know, one of the things

20:23

was definitely how easy it was. Stephanie

20:26

is someone that is so easy to get

20:28

along with, so easy to talk to, so smart.

20:31

Is someone who comes from a different side

20:33

of life than I'm familiar with. Um,

20:36

I've been a I've been a so cal surfer

20:38

dude my whole life. And Stephanie

20:40

was raised in the Bronx and

20:42

Manhattan and a little bit in Westchester, and

20:44

so we just come from different sides of the country and slightly

20:47

different perspectives, and so just being able to

20:49

learn about each other's lives and really dig

20:51

into each other as human beings and have

20:54

all of our various deep conversations

20:56

truly in that window of like what we're stuck

20:58

at home doing nothing, what do you want talk about? You want to talk about

21:01

life, the universe and everything, like, yeah,

21:03

let's do that, Let's go off. How do you feel about

21:05

aliens? Let's do it. And just

21:07

being able to like really you know, open up

21:09

to this side of stuff that wasn't basically

21:12

being forced to stay home and people saying

21:14

like, okay, you want to go to bars. No, no bars, bars

21:16

are closed. It's not even I don't want to or you don't

21:18

want to, it's a we can't, so we can just take

21:21

that out. I was, I was, you know,

21:24

really thrilled with how

21:26

easy it was to just dive into

21:29

the rest of what a relationship will

21:31

be and could be and stuff like that. I'm just really

21:33

really getting to know each other. I'm

21:35

like, I'm in love with your relationship,

21:38

Like I just love I just love that.

21:41

Uh, because like like you said, it can

21:43

be a it can be a bad thing. I think it's just a

21:45

quick thing. Like I feel like you and Stephanie,

21:47

you are going to know pretty quickly if

21:49

it was gonna work or not work when you're forced to

21:51

be with each other, just with

21:53

each other, nobody else, by yourselves,

21:56

with very little to do and

21:58

just no room to uh not,

22:01

Like you had mentioned, not learn about each other at

22:03

a rapid rate. But it also works

22:05

out. And if it works out, then you get to

22:07

know that pretty quickly. You've now

22:10

been dating for what is it touching

22:12

ten months? Then if you said February,

22:15

very good, you're

22:17

touching ten months for me and my relationship

22:20

at ten months, like obviously we're saying I love

22:22

you to each other. We had met each other's

22:24

families, we'd had

22:26

full blown, like deep conversations,

22:29

meeting each other's friends, going to each other's

22:31

hometowns. All of these things. You

22:33

don't get to do so many of those things.

22:35

That's that's affected all those things. How have you guys

22:38

managed to jump through those milestone

22:40

hoops? If you will an excellent

22:42

question, I would say, extremely delicately.

22:45

Um so for you know, for example,

22:49

one of the things about dating when you're thirty, is that every

22:52

every time you feel a connection is like, Okay,

22:55

I really got to like plow through all of the little

22:57

things to make sure that this is tight, because I really

22:59

like this person and I don't want to dance carefully

23:01

around the things that I really want to get to. So

23:04

Stephanie met my parents on our fifth date. Hey,

23:07

I'm like, that's how I was.

23:10

That's how I wasn't every girl I ever dated until

23:12

Madison, and it didn't work

23:14

as well for me, But that that's the kind of

23:16

that's the kind of energy that we need in this life.

23:19

And you know, I appreciate her for being

23:21

so bold and willing to go along with it

23:23

and say, I mean like sure, okay,

23:25

yeah, fair. And you know, our fifth date

23:27

was within that three week window

23:30

before the lockdown really started, So

23:32

she got to meet my family in a in

23:34

theory infection safe

23:36

space where it wasn't something I mean, obviously,

23:39

it was something that was traveling around the country and at

23:41

the time was probably still president in l A.

23:43

But you know, at that moment, we hadn't gotten into

23:45

lockdown yet, And so she got to meet my family

23:47

and a fair small

23:50

group of my friends beforehand, So

23:53

it was kind of like getting to meet

23:55

these people, getting that first connection, and

23:57

then okay, peace, I'll see you guys in like, you know, several

23:59

months. Like that was kind of how it started

24:01

at first, um

24:03

and then later later

24:06

in the year in this in September, as a matter of

24:08

fact, when we

24:10

were experiencing a dip, we

24:13

decided to break

24:15

the seal and go to the East Coast

24:17

and meet her side of the family. So

24:20

we quarantined in New York City

24:22

and then spent a weekend and

24:24

a half with her side of the family. Got to meet her

24:26

brothers or mob grandma, got to meet the whole

24:28

gang, and we

24:31

really just found our very small

24:33

window we're as safe as possible, and

24:36

made it back and forth with no issue. So

24:40

I think, you know, it was something

24:42

that I admittedly

24:45

didn't want to do. Like

24:47

I am a baby when it comes

24:49

to this kind of stuff. I am perfectly okay

24:51

being like, we can't go out for a year. It's

24:54

fine by me, baby, I'm sitting on my desk. It works. But

24:57

at the same time, I also understand that I'm so lucky

24:59

that I lived ten minutes away from my parents that they too

25:02

are in our own bubble that we have a

25:04

backyard space that I can sit

25:06

on the other side of a ten foot table or something

25:08

and just you know, be there to see them and and

25:10

and still experienced life. And that was something

25:12

that for Stephanie, with her family on the other side

25:14

of the country, she was not able to do. And

25:16

so I was very lucky in that way, and

25:19

I wanted to let go

25:21

of my inhibitions in terms of like, this

25:23

isn't something that's necessarily safe. We

25:25

took every precaution that was necessary, We

25:28

quarantined we were able

25:30

to see her family have a great time and make it

25:32

home safely, unscathed, and and I was very

25:35

I was really really happy to do that. And more

25:37

importantly, I was really happy to see her so happy

25:40

because I could tell that,

25:42

you know, especially right now, having

25:45

that connection is so important. Being able to

25:47

see your family, just being able to like, you know, see

25:49

the people you love and be connected to them is

25:51

is so crucial right now, And especially when

25:53

like it was getting to the winter time

25:56

and cases were spiking, Like going in

25:58

September felt like the opportunity

26:00

to see everybody before we got like really locked

26:03

out again. And so I'm really glad we got to do what we did

26:05

because your knife, right, that's

26:08

all I could fit. I was about to cry.

26:11

I'm not gonna lie to you, Daniel. I was about to

26:13

cry at how just absolutely

26:15

sweet that was. And then what came to

26:17

my mind was because you're

26:19

nice with a tear,

26:22

with one crocodile tear running down

26:24

my face, I've thought to myself,

26:27

because you're not, I

26:30

really do like your story just makes my heart.

26:32

It makes me honestly, it makes me miss my girlfriend. I just want

26:34

to give her a big hug and kiss. Um,

26:37

you've only known kind of this full

26:40

blown relationship now in in the

26:42

quarantine in a pandemic. I'm

26:44

really really cautious about being optimistic

26:46

about this vaccine situation, but

26:49

let's say it all in a in a in an optimistic

26:51

mindset, everything works and six

26:54

months from now we are getting to

26:56

go out, getting to the regular human

26:58

beings as we as we've all own. Is

27:01

there anything that specifically excites

27:03

you or or worries

27:05

you if maybe or make it makes you nervous

27:08

about going back to like a full throat like being

27:10

in this relationship not locked

27:12

away, right, Um, I would

27:14

say, you know, overall, my

27:17

concerns are less with the

27:19

security of mine and Stephanie's relationship and

27:22

more about how

27:25

just the things that we would want to do are

27:27

going to be different in those six months. Um.

27:29

But but you know, if we're talking an example

27:31

where the world is truly like as

27:34

back to normal as it can be, like you know, everybody

27:36

has taken the vaccine and it works and everything is you know, hunky

27:38

Dorry right right. I'm just I

27:41

I hope she can hold her own at CA barbecue.

27:43

That's what I'm real That's that's what I'm worried about. Oh

27:45

my gosh, can we please double date atk

27:48

Barbecue? Because once once

27:50

we can cook. Oh my gosh, Oh

27:52

my gosh. Have you ever been to Genoa? Wait?

27:55

Have you been to Genoa? Genera? Oh?

27:57

Yeah, I thought you a

28:00

job. I was like, did you say, Ben, Yes,

28:02

I've been to gen Wa. Okay, we got okay, gen

28:04

Wa. When we're done, General done, Katherine's

28:06

invited Ali, if you come over here to the West

28:09

Coast, you're invited as well.

28:12

Well. Daniel, I don't. I'm so

28:14

in love with your relationship. It's so exciting

28:16

and fun and it's and it's very hopeful

28:19

for for the listeners out there who

28:21

are nervous about this, the you know, the

28:24

um, the seriousness of a relationship that

28:26

could start in the pandemic. So thank you for

28:29

being an incredible example that

28:31

love can still exist in

28:34

this pandemic. We're gonna take a quick break

28:36

and we come back. We'll be talking with our good friend

28:38

Ali. Last name, and

28:41

we're back. That is an

28:44

old SNL nod. If you don't know this

28:46

is, let's get into it. I'm alex Ion no UM,

28:48

and we are talking now with our favorite

28:51

anonymous human being Ali

28:53

from a certain place with a certain

28:55

last name. Ali. How are you? I'm

28:58

doing well? How are you, Alex? I'm

29:00

doing well. I want to shout out our friend. I'm just going

29:02

to give her an initial because we want to keep the anonymous

29:05

nous alive. We're gonna give her just L.

29:07

We'll talk, We'll call her L. She's one

29:09

of my really good friends. She's one of your best

29:11

friends, as she likes to claim. Uh.

29:13

And she wanted me, she really just wanted me to get

29:15

straight to the nitty gritty with you. So we

29:17

gotta ask, can you give us a ballpark about

29:20

how many dates? You've been on in the last nine

29:22

months. I can't believe that

29:24

these are These are her questions, by the way, So

29:27

you can't get don't get mad at Catherine, don't

29:29

get mad at me. This is this

29:31

is l she She basically told me that

29:33

there would be no pressure and that would

29:35

be free form, and then she told me full

29:38

pressure. So I just want you to know that that's where

29:40

the miscommunication happened. Okay

29:43

um, ballpark number, Like

29:47

I don't want I can be honest, right, Like, you'll be

29:49

honest. Hey, we we just we're

29:51

open to honesty here, we we we absolutely

29:53

encourage it. Yeah, like I won't have like employers

29:56

listening to us, hopefully not. They don't even know, they

29:58

don't even know it's you. Yeah, don't even know. Okay

30:01

Um, I would say, can

30:03

I preface by saying I was in a three and a

30:05

half year relationship and

30:08

pandemic dating is basically all I've known

30:12

and I think you

30:14

know, and unfortunately it's been all apps,

30:17

Like there's been very few real I'm

30:21

imagining most of these dates are zoom dates

30:23

or other stories. Virtual dates were,

30:26

Yeah, they definitely were. But

30:30

yeah, I would say that if

30:32

you asked my roommate. She would say something

30:34

else, but I'm gonna say, like

30:37

twenty twenty dates.

30:40

And I don't want to do the math on like how many weeks

30:42

a date like a date it's a week or anything like that.

30:45

But I was I went on there was a period when

30:47

I was going on at least a date a week.

30:50

Wow, that's nice for

30:52

a pandemic. That's a high number. That's like when

30:55

things were opening, like virtual dating.

30:58

I'll get to that. There was one person. It

31:00

was just one. There's just only one. You never did any

31:02

We'll get into it. Let's get into it. But

31:05

I want you to say how many dates,

31:07

both in person and virtually

31:09

anything that you would consider more

31:12

than just messaging back and forth, like

31:14

an actual like encounter. How

31:16

what what do you got for me? Nine months? Still twenty?

31:19

Or is it is a little more? Five?

31:23

Okay? Five virginals. We're trying to get

31:25

into it through my matches

31:27

and like my pictures and like everything

31:30

and really count. But like, let's go with that number.

31:32

I'm gonna text hold on, I'm gonna just for fun,

31:34

I'm texting l and asking her how many

31:37

she thinks you've been on? Yeah,

31:39

I mean there's been definitely

31:41

more significant than others, like some more

31:43

significant individuals. But like I

31:45

was, there was a period when I was just like

31:47

cycling through dance. I got

31:50

her on FaceTime right now, hold on, I'm

31:53

gonna ask her right here, right now. She

31:56

better answer. Y.

32:02

Hey, I'm on our podcast right now, and

32:04

uh and I'm talking to you to our friend Ali,

32:06

and I need you. She just gave me a

32:09

number of how many dates she says

32:11

she's been on since the pandemic started.

32:13

I want to know how many you think she's

32:16

been on since the pandemic started. All

32:19

Right, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna low

32:21

ballet here for her, and I'm gonna say nine. Oh,

32:24

come on, give us some more juicy number. She

32:26

said, you're

32:35

about it her

32:37

next guest. Okay, that's a little bit closer. All right, we'll

32:39

listen to the rest of the podcast and and you'll you'll

32:41

find out all right, okay, bye,

32:45

alright, Well he might have been high,

32:47

but there was just a period where I was going on a lot of dates,

32:49

and it feels like, right like

32:51

how much emotion it was involved in that. So well,

32:54

this is the Internet. You can't take anything back. Is

32:57

the number. Um, let's

33:00

let's crack into what these are. I'm

33:02

speaking not from any form of experience,

33:04

but I would imagine that the weirdest

33:06

thing about dating during this pandemic

33:08

is unless things were fully open, you're

33:11

basically on a dating app eternally.

33:14

How do you survive? How do you survive like the

33:17

rate like a first date or or a

33:19

getting to know somebody? Have you had any success?

33:22

Yeah, So let's

33:24

go. This is wild. So

33:27

many stories. I'm so excited, let's go. I

33:29

want them all. Okay, So let's

33:31

start from the beginning, Like I'm gonna look at this like where

33:34

from where it started, where we are now, like a timeline,

33:36

because I feel like that's the easiest way to explain it. So

33:39

when things were getting bad, like Danton Rule

33:41

saying, like really bad those two weeks, everyone's

33:43

got a panicking and people were on the apps, like

33:46

there was definitely a surgeon in the apps, and people

33:48

were kind of like, hey, like, what do you think is

33:50

going on right now? It was

33:52

less of it was less of dating is just trying to find

33:54

people's opinions on what's happening in the world.

33:57

So I met this one guy and he was

33:59

funny and we're chatting, and

34:01

my roommate had left. At this point, I was alone in my

34:03

apartment and I saw

34:05

a lot of people go on Instagram lives and I thought that

34:08

was funny, and I was like, wait, why don't

34:10

I, like entergain my friend and

34:12

take do a live date. And

34:15

I asked this guy and I was like, what are your thoughts?

34:17

And like meeting each other in person over Instagram?

34:20

Like who would do that? First of all? Like

34:22

I would not agree to that, but he did, and

34:26

um, yeah, I know, I'm

34:29

I'm speaking. I need you to continue because I'm speechless.

34:31

So basically I was using

34:33

the Instagram live comments as like prompts

34:36

to ask this guy. So we're like, hey,

34:38

like how's it going. Like we didn't even we did

34:40

like a little pre in like intro, like

34:42

you know, what is what we're gonna do? And it

34:45

wasn't scripted at all. We just like went

34:47

on a real date, like got to know each other, like where did

34:49

you go to school? And our friend my

34:51

friends were dying like this guy was actually hilarious

34:54

and to the point I was like, wait, this guy has like a sense

34:56

of humor. He's kind of cute. Like why not take

34:58

this off one I was like, guys, I'm ending this right now out

35:00

like I'm going to go on a real date with this guy.

35:04

At this point, quarantine felt like it

35:06

was not ending for a long time, we

35:08

were you know. So I actually ended

35:11

up virtually dating this guy for

35:13

about a month, and I would

35:15

would go out like a date like a week or every other week.

35:17

We just like catch up and I would played

35:19

games sometimes, like I remember, like

35:23

to the point of like I went home in the suburbs

35:25

and we were still virtually dating. So

35:27

then I came back to the city and things are starting

35:30

to like lighten up, and there were like

35:32

phase one or something, and enough for a

35:34

socially distance date where you can walk with each

35:36

other, and that was very common at the time. People

35:38

were wearing masks and parks you would see

35:40

people on dates and it was a thing anyways,

35:43

so cool. We got to take out

35:45

cocktail because take out cocktails were such a thing in

35:47

Manhattan, and

35:51

the date it was terrible. It was about

35:53

the personal dating and we did not

35:55

like click in person, like I guess there was

35:57

no like physical attraction, like

36:00

I didn't see it with him, but both

36:02

of us did not feel it. So we never talked to

36:04

each other again after that. Like there's no that

36:06

was it. I mean, you gotta imagine, like there's

36:08

so many things that you have to like go. Well, first

36:11

off, I have a really hilarious question that I wanted

36:13

to ask you. Did you guys ever virtually kiss

36:15

like you pull like camera.

36:19

I'm not gonna like discuss even though this is

36:21

anonymous, Like I'm not gonna say there

36:23

wasn't like any talk

36:25

of like what we would like, but like there

36:28

was Well I

36:30

wasn't even going there. I was just imagining how

36:32

funny would be you both are like I know, well,

36:34

I feel like it needed to be acknowledged at some point,

36:36

like in a PG form. Yeah, okay, I get

36:39

it. I mean, and that doesn't And by the way, anonymous

36:41

or not, that's nothing to discredit. I think that you

36:43

were having you were talking to somebody for weeks,

36:46

and I think and you, like

36:49

Daniel said, you have to cut off the

36:51

fat. You don't dance around anything. You gotta get

36:53

you gotta get straight into it. The world

36:56

might end. We gotta get straight to it. That's

36:59

insane, aim though, because the thing is is like we're

37:01

all on zoom. And as much as I'd like to think I

37:03

can imagine what all three of your legs

37:06

look like, I don't know you like

37:08

all you like. I don't know what what any

37:11

the three of you guys look like under

37:13

your like your what is this called solar

37:15

plex? And so like getting to see somebody

37:18

in proNT but and I mean that not only in like the

37:20

literal way, but also like figuratively,

37:22

like I don't know, you don't know much about somebody

37:25

the way that they like their body language.

37:27

There's like a spark in person to everything

37:31

everything. So okay, So was

37:33

that the first pandemic date situation

37:36

that you had, well, I would say that was

37:38

like the first virtual situation, right, okay,

37:40

And so where did you go from there? Okay?

37:43

So and you're if you're

37:45

in Manhattan, like there's a lot of at

37:48

this point, like it's getting a little bit warmer, you

37:50

know. I was going on, I've met this one guy

37:53

and we went on a couple of dates like virtually not

37:55

virtual. We and we met on

37:57

like hinge and then we would go for

37:59

all in the park and

38:02

I think he got to the point of like should we

38:04

kiss? Should we not kiss? And I

38:06

didn't like at this point, it was like still serious,

38:09

you know, like you know, we didn't really know what's going

38:11

testing, and I was like, um, I don't even

38:13

want you up in my apartment like helping

38:15

me carry up something. I

38:17

didn't like him enough to kiss him. So then it's like almost

38:20

like that with the pandemic dating

38:22

was like I just don't think I'm comfortable

38:24

with it yet, and then we just basically like got

38:26

ended too so here

38:29

so so past the virtual kiss. You ever done a

38:31

mask kiss? It's that you keep your masks on,

38:33

but then you can you touch, you touch what

38:36

would be your lips together. No, I

38:38

didn't like that guy enough to mask kiss him, not even

38:40

a masks no, no, no.

38:43

And I think with the apps definitely,

38:45

like after being in a long term relationship

38:47

and being in my twenties, I wanted to start exploring,

38:49

like meeting different types of people, like seeing

38:51

out there. I mean, by

38:54

now I kind of know that I definitely have a type and

38:56

like I'm just gonna stick to that type. But

38:58

um, I was exploring, like I'm still young,

39:01

like I'm still going to explore. But I

39:03

was doing a lot of park dates and

39:06

just going out to get a drink and like walking by the river.

39:08

I feel like we need to give these guys not name,

39:11

like not like their real names, but like let's get

39:13

to it. So so we have these first two,

39:15

let's start identifying these guys because we gotta go.

39:17

We gotta be able to draw back to somebody, all right. So

39:19

I went on one of these park dates. We

39:22

actually end up going to a live out of comedy show

39:24

because there was a ton of those going on in Manhattan. I

39:27

had a great time. It was like a great

39:29

date. Like I felt I was going super well,

39:31

and I think he did too. He texted me

39:33

the next day. We were texting all day

39:36

and I was at a friends in the West

39:38

Village and I was walking home and

39:41

as I was walking home, I like, there's

39:43

a lot of nuts were dyning going on, like there's no

39:46

you know, there's really no hiding. So

39:48

I see this guy and I'm like, wait,

39:50

is this him? Is that is that? And

39:52

I was like, wait, he's not a date?

39:55

Was another girl an

39:57

outdoor dining? You can't hide a

40:00

My radius set on these apps is super small

40:02

because I like people who like get it in my

40:04

neighborhood, like get like what's

40:06

going on here? But honestly, so I was

40:08

like, oh my god, I did my makeup, like

40:11

thank god, I was wearing this beautiful dress. But

40:13

I was like, did you see me? Like I thought him in to see

40:15

me? So I faced on my friend at the corner. I'm like, oh my

40:17

god, Like that's let's

40:20

call him. He two times, me two

40:22

times. We're calling him two times, all

40:24

right. So I'm like, I just thought

40:26

the two timer on another date, I'm

40:29

gonna go. I'm gonna don't go back, don't

40:31

go back. And I'm like, oh god, to see me. So

40:33

I back, he sees me, I like do a little

40:35

like like a little wave, you know. And

40:40

I went home and I was like, oh god, So

40:43

that was that? Wait, hold on, so had

40:45

you in two time discussed anything about

40:47

being like about not like it was? It

40:49

was there something that gave you the kind of inclination

40:52

that you guys were supposed to only

40:55

be talking to each other. But the thing is

40:57

like it went, I know what you're saying,

41:00

and you're allowed to date back

41:02

to back like I was doing it. Kind of there's

41:04

unwritten rules though, Like there's unwritten rules

41:07

of like okay, if if things are going well, then

41:09

like maybe let me know or like

41:11

or just give me the decent you know, be

41:13

a decent human and not do anything. So I'm not saying

41:16

that if you don't have the talk. We've had a whole

41:18

episode about dtrs. But if

41:20

you don't have the talk, it doesn't mean necessarily

41:22

that you're free to do whatever. Like there's still a point

41:25

of like I should still be a good person, and like it

41:27

seems like this is going in a nice direction,

41:29

and I like to think, like you don't really want to imagine

41:32

them actually seeing each other, like you want seeing other

41:34

people in your head. You're kind of like, oh,

41:37

they really like me and they're not gonna want

41:39

to see other people, So to see them on another day, it's

41:41

like what ruins the whole romanticizing

41:44

real part of it? You know, it makes it real.

41:47

But you know I had I definitely had a lot of

41:50

bad ap dates, like way more

41:52

bad than good. I think that's a

41:54

general thing though, right, like what would we like

41:57

it's the dating apps, though they've been proven

42:00

people find success in them. There's also

42:02

like you gotta it's like playing black jack.

42:04

You know, some people of people win,

42:06

but a lot of people don't win. Yeah, but I

42:09

want to make this really about like not as much

42:11

about the apps as about pandemic dating, because

42:13

I think it's just like it's been a wild

42:15

ride, honestly. Like, so

42:18

we'd go out to eat, you know, like outdoor

42:20

gianting had opened. My friends and I were starting to see

42:22

each other again safely, you know, in a

42:25

smart environment, I guess. So we'd be at outdoor and

42:27

outdoor restaurant and there'd be a cute

42:29

guy and we can't talk

42:31

to them. We're wearing masks, Like if you're at

42:33

a bar, like, yeah, maybe you'd go up to them, but these days,

42:35

like how are you going to break that barrier? So

42:37

my friends and I thought it'd be fun to like make

42:40

business cards with our phone number on them

42:42

and like it just said hey and like our

42:44

phone number. But the thing that's tricky

42:47

is, like you said, like I saw a TikTok about

42:49

it about you don't know what somebody looks like

42:51

in person under their eyes. Well,

42:54

if you're at a restaurant, your mask is as you

42:56

can see them, but like, ok, I

42:59

weren't asked what so all he sees is like

43:01

it's a blind date. Honestly is what they're getting

43:03

into, like an actual blind date. So

43:06

I gave him my card and she was like pretty

43:08

like buff looking, like he was really

43:10

like he was attractive, but I didn't really know. Anyways,

43:13

he texted me and it's like, hey, it's he

43:16

He ends up being a firefighter. So

43:19

firefighter guy is obviously and

43:22

firefighter guy and I we text backwards.

43:25

We're trying to make plans and finally were he's like, let's

43:27

grab a drink, you know, in the corner I can say

43:29

that I live in Manhattan. It's okay, I think, who

43:31

kind of colored to this? So we meet at

43:33

a bar. You know, there's awkward like

43:35

do you hug? Do you bump

43:38

arms? And like in that like a lot of people

43:40

were like New Yorkers, but like everyone's kind of

43:43

feeling feelings and there's a lot of hugging

43:46

and you're kind of like you start hugging and you're

43:48

like with masks on and you're like okay, and I'm

43:50

always like okay, And now we're hugging and there's a pandemic

43:54

and we sit down

43:56

and he ends up being incredible, like

43:59

like really funny sat nilot accent, like

44:02

really beautiful, like the most beautiful man. I

44:04

like, one of the most people man I've ever seen. And

44:06

we hit it off. He loves comedy, I love comedy,

44:09

and he's a firefighter. Like how fun. Anyways,

44:12

it went well, but I don't really hear from him,

44:14

like back and forth. He said I was going out of town, and then

44:16

I got the text like my classic line which

44:18

I usually use, like I'm getting back to my ex. So

44:21

he used that on me, um, and I can

44:23

see right through it, honestly, But I

44:26

feel like, you know, I'm going through this like pandemic

44:29

version of dating in my twenties,

44:32

and like it's

44:34

totally bizarre. It's

44:36

it's putting a different lens on things, right,

44:38

but it's it feels real, like it doesn't feel

44:40

that different. It's just like kind of

44:43

like dating in our generation during

44:45

these times is pretty much all in the apps. Like

44:47

I'm the kind of person who prefers to meet in person, but

44:50

I don't know, I don't know. I feel like it

44:53

still feels like I'm doing it. The thing,

44:56

the thing that I think we all need to remember as

44:58

we go through all of these stories is that

45:00

you did an Instagram live with a guy as

45:02

your first date. And I don't think that we can forget

45:04

about that. I know that, I know that we've

45:07

we've gone through so many stories and

45:09

they're all incredible. What made

45:11

you say this is an incredible idea?

45:13

Because it is an incredible idea, And that's what I'm

45:15

frustra I'm frustrated at the fact that you

45:17

came up with it before I did know what to

45:20

do with my roommates. You know, everyone's

45:23

home looking for entertainment, and I

45:26

was, I don't know. I love bringing

45:29

people together and if that's on social media,

45:31

you know, like I love stand up comedy. I'm not a comedian,

45:34

Like I think that there's forms of entertainment that are

45:36

just funny because of what they are, which

45:38

is a live date. It's hilarious no matter what

45:40

we're saying. It's just I actually want to

45:42

take a side note on that because you you had mentioned

45:44

stand up comedy, you've actually been doing putting

45:47

on comedy shows. I want to I want to like just highlight

45:49

you as like a good person. You've been putting

45:51

on comedy shows. Um to help out a community

45:53

center that's in your area. Tell

45:56

me, tell me, tell us what what brought you to do that. Yeah,

45:59

So for the pandemic, I was like putting

46:01

to other comedy benefit like I've always loved

46:03

of that production and stand up and

46:06

when everything closed down, I like

46:08

lost my opportunity. But then in New York,

46:10

I don't know if you know about there, there was like this whole underground

46:12

comedy scene that's been going on with

46:15

part shows and everything. And the Community

46:17

Center actually has an alley, like a

46:19

side alley perfect for like

46:21

chairs and a little bit

46:23

of a stage and a speaker set

46:25

up. And I just started reaching

46:28

out to comedians on Instagram and comedians

46:31

that I had met previously, and they were all

46:33

super excited. They were looking for stage time. They wanted

46:35

to like have a platform to finally

46:38

get out there and to stand up again in a

46:40

safe way. Everyone was in masks like they're

46:42

definitely um ever was spaced

46:44

out. It was really fun. It was

46:46

It definitely wasn't totally kosher, like I

46:48

would say, like I don't think it was totally legal to sell

46:50

tickets to these kinds of things, but everyone is

46:53

kind of doing it. Yeah,

46:56

and the shows were amazing, Like I had Mark Normand

46:59

on this show Joe List Rachel

47:02

finds that like so many seller comedians,

47:04

I like who else David's

47:07

Hell came by once, which is really fun. We

47:10

had a lot of big medians that I'm

47:13

very excited about, Like that is so cool,

47:15

and it's also you know, I think, like you mentioned,

47:18

comedians are artists and they and

47:20

artists need to express their art. And

47:23

so not only are helping comedians who

47:25

are expressing their art, people still

47:27

need entertainment, and so you're you're creating

47:29

this kind of everybody wins situation. So

47:31

I did as much as we're going to talk about, um,

47:34

what dating is, like, I had to. I had to highlight

47:36

that as

47:38

I'm not only a dator, not

47:41

a serial dater, Like, oh my god,

47:43

another dating story. You

47:46

do other things, you expand outside

47:49

of just dating. Um, So we've

47:51

talked about we have four stories now. So we have Instagram

47:53

Live Guy, we have No Kiss Guy, we have

47:56

we have the two timer, and we have the Firefighter, and

47:58

they all kind of ended with a

48:00

little bit of not as good, not as good ending.

48:03

We need something what about what about

48:05

the pandemic? Dating is a positive?

48:07

Give us something like yeah, the great question.

48:09

Honestly, I think I've

48:12

touched on it earlier, But you

48:14

know, I think it's a lot about

48:16

not only finding myself, but also

48:18

figuring out what I like and what I don't like in a person.

48:21

And I think about I

48:23

think dating is so important,

48:25

you know, because it allows you to not

48:29

only grow individually, like being in a relationships grade

48:31

Like I was in a really long term relationship since college

48:34

and he was a wonderful person. I still think he's wonderful,

48:36

but that long term relationship kind

48:39

of was at a point in my life where I'm

48:41

finding myself and bringing up with him

48:43

allowed me to find stand up comedy and produce

48:46

shows and grow and

48:48

really like figure it out on

48:50

my own. So through

48:53

stand up which has given me a

48:56

huge passion, you know, it's like

48:58

I feel like I found my passion, which

49:00

is producing comedy. It's also been

49:02

giving me the opportunity to date and

49:04

just explore the different types of people. And what I

49:06

said earlier, like I have a type, Like

49:08

I think it's kind of like all leading me towards

49:11

like this is the kind of person you want to see yourself. Yeah,

49:13

that's super cool. And also on top of that,

49:16

you know, when you don't have all of

49:18

the time to like get to actually go out

49:20

and meet people the way that you used to. You also get

49:22

to use a lot of that time, um that you're

49:24

not on the apps to think about what you do want,

49:26

but you also get to learn about who you are and

49:28

what you might need more so, like

49:30

things that you might not necessarily want out of somebody, but

49:32

you like that's also really it is really good for me

49:34

to have in a relationship totally. Well,

49:38

look at you just grow in look at you just growing

49:40

out there. I

49:43

think it's you

49:45

know, hopefully, you know, we all kind of like I

49:47

hope that will meet that person, and I have

49:49

faith like that there will be someone.

49:52

You know, I'm not. I just think it's like it takes time

49:54

to get there. You know. Well,

49:58

we're gonna take a quick break when we come back, got

50:00

Daniel and Ali. We are going rapid

50:02

fire questions. We're calling it Netflix and

50:04

absolutely no chill. Welcome

50:09

back. This is let's get into it. I'm Alex Ciono,

50:11

and we are now talking with Daniel and

50:13

Ali about dating in the pandemic.

50:16

We're gonna call it this section Netflix

50:18

and absolutely no chill.

50:21

Uh So, my first question is going to be usually

50:23

we in these. In these third segments,

50:26

all three of myself and the two

50:28

guests have like kind of like a common a

50:30

common you know, theme, but for

50:32

this one, all three of us are different. So I have direct

50:34

questions for both of you. Um.

50:37

The first one ali, what is chivalry

50:39

like in like, you know, you can't

50:41

open doors, you can't, um,

50:44

you know, pull the chair out, and and

50:46

and you can't you know, all of these things walk

50:48

to your door? So what what gives

50:50

you the sign of like, oh, this is a good dude. He would

50:52

if we were out, he would open he would

50:55

open the door for me. Um. I

50:57

think a lot of the same things do apply, but

50:59

the news things like how someone wears

51:01

their mask and when they wear it. So

51:06

if we're really at a restaurant and the waiter comes

51:08

over, like it's even better when someone

51:10

puts their mask and when they're engaging with the waiter, so

51:13

you know, or we're walking around like in New York

51:15

everyone has their mask on all the time. Like if we're sitting

51:17

down, maybe it's another story. But like if we're walking and

51:20

they'll have it on, I'm like, are they safe?

51:22

You know? So that's does

51:24

anybody does anybody do

51:27

you have a problem if somebody like dangles

51:29

their mask from their ear. I've always I don't

51:31

know why, I'm like that looks silly. Don't do if

51:34

you're not wearing your mask, take it off. And if you're wearing your

51:36

mask, put it on, wear it properly or

51:38

don't wear it at all. If they're hanging their mask from their

51:40

ears, that a red flag for you, I think so,

51:43

I think that I don't know. Well,

51:46

we'll let it fly. We'll let it fly. Um.

51:48

I have a question also, Daniel, for you,

51:50

what do you do? And my girlfriend is going

51:53

to absolutely kill me for this, but like sometimes

51:56

you know, sometimes you're like I love you more

51:58

than life itself, but I need

52:00

a little bit of me time and I

52:02

need some alone time asking

52:05

for a friend, of course, what

52:08

do you do? Um?

52:10

I make sure well before I ask

52:13

for me time and make sure that we had a good

52:15

amount of us time and

52:18

always have to always have to earn that me time.

52:20

But then afterwards it's it's just about honesty, you

52:23

know. I will say my girlfriend and

52:25

I are very or Stephanie and I are both very honest

52:27

with each other about the things we like and the things that we

52:29

like to do. And uh,

52:31

I happened to be a big fan of the old video

52:33

games, and so sometimes there

52:36

you go. And so sometimes we play games

52:38

together. Sometimes we know, play some fall guys

52:40

or play a little animal crossing together. And

52:42

then I'm like, all right, babe, i

52:44

gotta get in with the boys. We're we're

52:47

about to we're about to say some mean things to

52:49

some small children on the internet. And she guys, you

52:52

do you that's great. I'm

52:54

not even gonna lie though. I I my girlfriend's gonna

52:56

be mad when I say that. But the fact of the matter

52:58

is is that she probably onto the alone time

53:00

more than me, because, like I said earlier, I

53:03

love being with her like

53:05

I love I love being with people in general, but specifically

53:07

her. Um So I actually take it back, Babe. If you're

53:09

listening to this, this is you. I'm I'm

53:12

asking questions for you on how to tell me

53:14

that you want to be alone. Um this

53:17

is one for everybody that I think is just a discussion

53:19

point sex. I know that it's like sex.

53:23

So it used to be, um

53:25

like STDs were like the thing right, Like you're

53:27

like, oh, man, like, don't get an STD. And there's

53:29

still a thing by

53:34

but it's actually there's something now that

53:36

you have to worry about even more because

53:38

there is virtually no protection

53:41

from it if you go into that realm,

53:43

and that is like COVID. So

53:45

Ali, you we've talked about kissing,

53:47

and I don't want you to get too graphic. Um,

53:51

but like, how do you if you get

53:54

to that place hypothetically,

53:57

where do you? Like, where do you ask each

53:59

other? Like, Hey, I'd love to

54:02

to go there, but I need to make

54:04

sure, like you've been tested, and how

54:06

does that even work? I think you have to

54:08

be in a place with that person where

54:11

you can have a conversation about being I hate

54:13

it's exclusive because

54:16

you need to make sure that they're being careful and that's

54:18

like heavy, it's a real one because it's a d

54:20

t R too early, honestly because

54:22

the thing. The thing is that like you usually

54:25

like like if you're single, you

54:27

your decision on like should I

54:29

hook up with this person? Should not hook up with this person?

54:32

Is allowed to sometimes be like you're cute,

54:34

let's do it, Like you're allowed to like do you know what I

54:36

mean? Like, but when you're but

54:38

now you have to have this whole DTR essentially

54:41

before you're even allowed to get there. Yeah,

54:44

it definitely can like ruin things,

54:47

you know. It's just it's

54:49

a really really tricky subject these days.

54:51

I would say, but the good news is it

54:53

makes you, It makes it like,

54:55

it makes it matter, you know what I mean that

55:00

I'm gonna get a red hat that just says makes

55:02

sex matter again. And

55:04

then so you got you got it's got you gotta

55:06

just vetted out. You gotta vet it yea, Yeah,

55:09

someone really worth it, you know, for you know,

55:11

totally on a similar

55:13

topic, though not everybody's super into monogamy,

55:16

what kind of conversations Let's say that you had kissed

55:18

two timer, right, and then he's out and about with

55:20

these other people? How

55:22

do you have a DTR without it being like

55:25

this, like this, like what are we? You know what

55:27

I mean? Like? How do you just be like, hey, are you kissing

55:30

somebody else? Because I want to kiss you,

55:32

but I can't have their lips on my

55:34

lips. Ah,

55:36

it's like really uncomfortable.

55:39

It's exactly what you're describing is exactly

55:41

how it goes. I think early

55:43

on, like I spoke about it earlier,

55:45

when I wouldn't even want to kiss that guy I was

55:47

kind of it was such an uncomfortable conversation.

55:50

I was like, oh, you know, I had

55:52

to, like you always constant to make up something. I

55:54

feel like there's a lot of like excuses

55:56

these days, and I think what happens is

55:58

like updating also

56:01

makes people really disposable. I'm

56:03

not saying for me, but like it

56:06

allows you not to really know someone super

56:08

well, so you can kind of just like say

56:11

things or that's what ghosting is super

56:13

easy. And I don't go on off topic now, but no,

56:16

I mean I think ghosting is easier than ever these days.

56:18

Is you're allowed to just be like hey,

56:20

sorry, by yeah. I don't know. I

56:22

think the apupdating makes it easier

56:24

to just kind of be like make

56:27

that. I don't know. It's a really tough question

56:29

now, Like I'm trying to think, like it's just awkward

56:31

when you're you're at that point. Luckily,

56:33

Daniel, you and I don't have to have these these

56:35

these conversations, but it's like, what would you say,

56:38

Daniel, what do you think? What do you think is the right way

56:40

to figure out if that person's kissing

56:42

or hooking up with anybody else so that you can in

56:44

turn get to kiss and hook up with them.

56:47

You know this is gonna this is gonna sound lame, broken

56:49

recording. But again, I just gotta go back

56:51

to communication. I just gotta go back

56:53

to You have to be upfront

56:55

about every single thing. You've got

56:57

to be like, I am not kissing

57:00

anybody else, and I would

57:02

like that to be the case with the person

57:05

that I'm kissing. And if that's not

57:07

the case, yeah, And the thing is, I think

57:09

if that's not the case, the the the other goal,

57:11

the other side of the goal is not to be dismissed. If it's

57:13

not to be rude, and it's not to be condescending

57:15

or anything. It's to be understanding and say, I see

57:18

that, we see this differently. You know, I'll respect

57:20

to you do what you gotta do. I'm

57:22

sorry, I just have to remove myself from the situation. Wow,

57:25

you're so you're just such a married

57:27

couple guy already. That's the thing. But

57:30

I was I was gonna say again, going to dating

57:32

in your thirties, Like, at this point, I just have to

57:34

like you. You can't do any of that ship anymore.

57:37

You can't like pretend

57:40

anything. You have to be completely on the surface about

57:42

everything about who you are, no hiding none of

57:44

that, and so like your honesty about like what

57:47

you believe in, you know, science

57:49

wise, politically, you know, sexually, all

57:51

that stuff. You just gotta be upfront because the

57:53

more of that stuff kind of just like hangs out in the back,

57:55

the more those problems become bigger

57:57

and bigger and bigger and bigger. So it's just like up front

58:00

that everything. So here's the thing though,

58:02

So now that now that we're talking about it, if you're

58:04

single and a girl's like, oh, hey, are

58:06

you hooking up with anybody else? You

58:08

know, you could kind of just like dance around it.

58:10

You used to be able to. You could be like, oh, listen, I

58:12

really like you and like moving forward, I want to

58:14

be exclusive with you. And that was like, in

58:17

my mind, a very respectable answer,

58:19

like I look, you know, if you feel like

58:21

it's like this, I've I'm down to get like this.

58:23

But Ali, how would you react if a guys like, listen, I kissed

58:25

a girl eight days ago and it's not full

58:28

fourteen days of quarantine away. I

58:30

can't imagine that doesn't at least make you go

58:32

like like now I'm now I'm a little

58:35

turned off by that. Yeah, because

58:37

because if you because if he says, hey, like,

58:40

look, I kissed a girl eight days ago, I have felt

58:42

no symptoms. I tested negative, and in six

58:44

days from in six days from now, I'll

58:46

be okay, Like I'll be clean. It sounds

58:48

like talk what

58:52

if it was after the first date that like what if you had one date

58:54

with him and you were like, yo, this is going really well,

58:56

and he's like, listen, I was on a date with another

58:58

girl and like and and she wanted

59:00

to kiss and I thought it was a cool date. But then she ended

59:03

up being crazy or she ended up like she ended

59:05

up ghosting me. And so I want you to know,

59:07

like, I like you, like, so let's really get

59:09

into it, because there's some there's some ways that it can

59:12

He could be a good person and

59:14

he just happens to be. The situation is he kissed

59:16

somebody eight days ago, and if it wasn't in the pandemic

59:19

most of the time, he wouldn't even have to tell you that, you know

59:21

what I mean, because we're here, you have

59:23

to disclose this type of information. Do

59:26

you allow yourself a buffer of like

59:28

I need to be understanding because most of this

59:31

ship actually happens and we just never talked

59:33

about it. I think with the

59:35

COVID lens, like I

59:37

can't say, like, you know, of

59:40

course I'm very not I'm not black

59:42

and white, So I would in real times,

59:44

like before COVID, I would say, like, well,

59:47

you're you're technically incriminating me. You're

59:49

saying would I kiss her? Kiss? No?

59:51

No, No, I'm saying would you would it not?

59:54

Not? Would you kiss him? Then I'm

59:56

saying would you kiss him after that fourteen

59:58

days? Or would you be so turned off at the fact

1:00:00

that you know now that he had just kissed

1:00:02

somebody else? Because for me, like, I'm crazy if

1:00:05

I had known, like if if if a girl was like listen,

1:00:07

I kissed somebody or I hooked up or even worse,

1:00:09

I hooked up with somebody, they

1:00:11

were clean, they had tested negative. I

1:00:14

obviously test negative. Let's wait the full

1:00:16

fourteen days. But I'd really like to kiss you. I'd

1:00:18

really like to like further this. But that turned

1:00:20

that to me. That turns me off. Yeah,

1:00:23

I agree, but I feel like living in New York,

1:00:25

everyone's constantly dating and like meeting

1:00:28

people. Y'all are a walking

1:00:30

gossip Girl Up York is wild.

1:00:32

Honestly, I'm living in it's crazy,

1:00:35

um, and I think men

1:00:37

and women were all kind of dating

1:00:39

all the time, and I

1:00:42

think I wouldn't

1:00:44

phase me. Really, that's mature, that's very mature.

1:00:46

That's a very mature way to answer it. I think I'm

1:00:48

more so just still in my young twenties where

1:00:50

I'm like you, you had sex before

1:00:52

me. Ever, that's not fair.

1:00:56

So I'm glad. I'm glad that you have a mature

1:00:59

answer for it. Um, Daniell, I got a

1:01:01

question for you, and that question is, like I said

1:01:03

earlier, I think going out on adventures,

1:01:06

you know, you gotta keep it spicy. We had an episode on

1:01:08

this podcast about love and lust, and the biggest

1:01:10

thing was, like, you have to keep everything exciting.

1:01:12

You gotta be you gotta do crazy

1:01:15

things and like be spontaneous and all of

1:01:17

that that gets dumbed down. And we talked about that a little

1:01:19

bit. But how do you keep your relationship

1:01:21

now that you're almost ten months in your You're

1:01:23

almost you're pushing towards that year mark

1:01:27

where the honeymoon phase can start

1:01:29

to kind of slow down and you become more of a like,

1:01:31

babe, you pete on you left the toilet seat

1:01:33

up, or babe, like stop,

1:01:36

you know, you know things like that. How

1:01:38

do you keep things hot and fun

1:01:40

and and not even in essential sense, but just

1:01:42

even in a like man I love this

1:01:44

girl, or man I love this man to death

1:01:47

totally totally. So when

1:01:49

we first started dating, we and

1:01:51

we accepted that we were going to be in quarantine,

1:01:54

we wrote down a big list of things

1:01:56

we wanted to do when we were done with quarantine,

1:01:58

things we wanted to do when we were out. And

1:02:01

so little things I like to do are

1:02:03

like look at that list and start

1:02:05

planning ahead, start like thinking about

1:02:07

what that is going to be. Like one of the things we want

1:02:09

to do is throw murder mystery

1:02:11

dinner parties, and so I

1:02:14

started thinking about, like you know, what

1:02:16

a character is going to be from that, or like start

1:02:18

putting together the plot for something, and just

1:02:20

start like thinking about like these like kind of future

1:02:22

plans. We want to take archery classes

1:02:24

together. So just like I like

1:02:27

to put stories together. I love storytelling,

1:02:29

and I just like you know, love love

1:02:32

creating stories together. So I kind of try

1:02:34

to try to think of these scenarios that

1:02:36

we can do in the future and start planning

1:02:38

for that time. I'm I'm I'm

1:02:41

going from being like, oh, you guys are cute

1:02:43

to having like schaden freud and and being

1:02:45

like jealous and envious of

1:02:48

the fact that like archery, are you

1:02:50

hidding me? Like, you know, are you like just

1:02:53

dumb cute ship? We have a big I'm calling

1:02:55

Madison right after this and I'm planning, Oh

1:02:57

my gosh, what's the name of the list. What's the name

1:02:59

of the list. It's called future super

1:03:02

Cute couple Plants.

1:03:05

I'm over both of you. That's

1:03:08

a pretty good, pretty good list, Pretty

1:03:10

good, Ali, Ali, You need to find you

1:03:12

a man that treats you the way that Daniel

1:03:14

treats Stephanie. That's

1:03:16

what we need to get. Hey, fellas, if you're

1:03:18

listening to this and you want to be and you want to be

1:03:20

Ali's Daniel, who's going to we're

1:03:25

just getting people ideas. There's

1:03:28

also there's always still, you know, more

1:03:30

that we could do. There's always, like I

1:03:33

appreciate the pray, honestly, you are honoring

1:03:35

me so much with this praise, But there's always

1:03:37

more that everyone can do to just be a

1:03:39

better partner, but also just a better human to

1:03:41

everybody, Like, you know, that's exactly what I

1:03:43

thought she'd That's exactly

1:03:46

what I thought you'd say, Daniel. So

1:03:48

this is the thing, guys, I don't love going

1:03:50

out. And this is my last question for both of you. I don't

1:03:52

love going out. I love being home. I

1:03:54

love being with my people in

1:03:57

a private space. So this isn't his

1:03:59

ideal for me. Like had mentioned, Daniel, I

1:04:01

actually think that having my being in

1:04:04

my exact situation, having my girlfriend

1:04:06

and having a room that I love, a bed

1:04:09

that's cozy, a big TV and Netflix

1:04:11

and movies and and all

1:04:13

of that. I think it's awesome. I think that's

1:04:16

in my own opinion, it's better for me.

1:04:19

I think that's better this pandemic dating for

1:04:21

me is better in that one specific

1:04:23

sense. Is there anything for either of you

1:04:25

that you actually are like, Well, I actually prefer this.

1:04:27

This is great. You know, I'm a big

1:04:30

like going out party girl, So

1:04:33

like this has been really challenging for

1:04:35

me. Um, I'm

1:04:37

such an extrovert and love meeting people in person.

1:04:40

You said something that I don't wish would change.

1:04:43

I kind of like, I don't know,

1:04:45

I feel like getting to know meeting

1:04:47

guys and having to have those conversations

1:04:50

about like are you seeing other people up

1:04:52

front, and like the no games kind

1:04:54

of element of it because of the pandemic

1:04:57

and being transparent, it's kind

1:04:59

of nice. So I'm going to try and like emulate

1:05:02

the transparency

1:05:04

the honesty that the pandemic has given me,

1:05:06

has has enabled me to do after

1:05:09

I hopefully when things get better, when things about

1:05:11

it, I'm going to continue to do this. Yeah,

1:05:14

I think no games, as you said, Daniel, it's

1:05:16

like it's everything. And I learned that's the

1:05:18

biggest part about dating is just don't

1:05:20

play them. That's perfect. It's

1:05:23

amazing, Daniel, anything great answer, Like

1:05:25

you were saying, there are certain things about the pandemic

1:05:27

that have been totally okay by me. I have to

1:05:29

stay inside and play video games. Oh god.

1:05:34

Um. But one thing surrounding

1:05:36

that, it's not necessarily the games themselves.

1:05:39

And this is gonna sound like a plug for this application,

1:05:41

but it's not really. But there's a thing called Discord.

1:05:43

The Discord is like it's like Skype, it's

1:05:45

like Slack, but it's a voice

1:05:47

app, a tech stapp, but it's also a video app

1:05:49

and a screen sharing app. It's like it's like zoom,

1:05:52

but you know, anyway, you get what I'm saying. And

1:05:54

since we went into lockdown, the amount of people

1:05:57

who have come, who have we've

1:05:59

invited to the private Discord, who have been

1:06:01

like, Hey, I play games, but I haven't played

1:06:03

with anybody in a while. Boom invite him to the discord.

1:06:05

Hey I I don't even play games, but like I use

1:06:07

this apple lot, Boom invite him to the discord. And

1:06:10

just the way that our nightly group of

1:06:12

people has gone from like five to

1:06:14

six to fifteen to twenty

1:06:17

to twenty to thirty every single night

1:06:19

of just community conversation and

1:06:21

discussion and sometimes it's games.

1:06:23

Sometimes we turn on the Fresh Prince of bel

1:06:25

Air documentary and I'll watch it together and laugh.

1:06:28

Just the community that it created

1:06:30

has been such a warm, safe

1:06:32

haven during this pandemic where yeah,

1:06:35

we all got to be stuck at home, but we're stuck at

1:06:37

home together, truly, all

1:06:39

together in the same spot. And so I'm very

1:06:41

thankful that people have taken to the

1:06:44

discord and to the idea of like, you know,

1:06:46

getting into just a chat room with

1:06:48

a bunch of the friends and talking

1:06:50

about life or again watching movies

1:06:52

or watching sports or actually playing

1:06:55

games. Just like having a nice open form

1:06:57

where a bunch of people are that are just talking hang out.

1:06:59

Has been wonderful and I'm very

1:07:01

thankful. Love. What a way

1:07:03

to end the show. I mean, come

1:07:05

on, and that's the way to good great way to double

1:07:07

date if you're in a relationship, great way to double date. If you're

1:07:09

not a relationship. Maybe you do your own little

1:07:11

bachelor speed dating or something in that

1:07:13

discord of you. It would be amazing.

1:07:16

Um, this is such a fun episode, guys. I

1:07:18

just want to thank you both for coming on, and it is time

1:07:20

for us to do what we call not so shameless

1:07:23

promo is where you just get

1:07:25

you can just get to shout out everything and and it's

1:07:27

going to be a challenge for you anonymous Ali. Um,

1:07:30

but but Daniel, give us, give us some

1:07:32

not so shameless for promo. Oh okay,

1:07:35

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Iono show here. This is such a pleasure and thank

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1:08:18

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1:08:20

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1:08:23

stand up comedy isn't necessarily happening

1:08:25

right now, but your comedians are all on Instagram

1:08:27

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1:08:30

Support virtual comedy, That's what

1:08:32

I would saying. Support stand up comedians because they're looking

1:08:34

for laughter, like that's how they make a living. So

1:08:37

you know, I love all the comedians that I've

1:08:39

met along the way, and I just want to support them.

1:08:42

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1:08:44

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