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contains discussions of violence and
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sexual violence. Listener discretion
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is advised, whether
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we want to or not. We're constantly
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creating records of our lives. Phone
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calls, emails, even credit
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card purchases can be used to pinpoint
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where we were at a certain time. When
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we touch a door knob, the oil from our
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hand leaves fingerprints and her
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skin sheds DNA, and
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if we drive by a security camera, our
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license plate can be scanned and entered
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into a database. But
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despite all of this information we're
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creating all of this power
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that we're giving the government and police, the
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United States isn't getting better at saul
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being serious crimes like homicide.
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In fact, we're getting worse.
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Murders were solved in today.
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That number has dropped dramatically.
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One of every three murders goes
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unsolved. One reporter
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found those stats unacceptable.
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Every day in America, people die
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who did not need to die, because
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every solved murder reduces
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the occurrence of murker from
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my Heart Radio and Tenderfoot TV. This
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is Algorithm
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and I'm ben Key Break, just
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to introduce myself really quick. Normally
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I don't host podcasts. I'm a
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producer, which means I normally just
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do stuff behind the scenes, research,
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writing, setting up interviews. Almost
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a year ago now, I was working on another
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show called Monster DC Sniper
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when I got an email from a friend. It
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was a link to a story about the murder
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of this young woman named Africa Hardy.
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The story was fascinating. It
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seemed to flip everything I knew about crime
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on its head because it
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wasn't just a story about trying to solve
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a murder. It was also a story about
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what could have been done to prevent the murder
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in the first place. And
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there were aspects of the case that we're still
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unclear. But if they checked
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out, then they could fundamentally change
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the way homicides are investigated in the
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United States and maybe all around
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the world. Obviously
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I was intrigued, but at the time
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I was busy working on the DC Sniper
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podcast, so I put it on the back burner.
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I tried to just forget about it, but
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I couldn't. I'd find myself
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on my phone late at night, searching
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for articles about Africa's case when
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I should have been sleeping, And
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I was frustrated because I had big
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questions about the murder investigation
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that it seemed like no one was asking. Eventually,
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I realized my curiosity wasn't
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going away. If I wanted
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these answers, I was going to have to find them
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myself. I decided
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to start researching the case in my spare
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time and documenting things as I
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went. But before I
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began, I wanted to reach out to Africa's
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mom, Lorie Townsend. Hello,
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Hi Lori, Yes, Hey,
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it's been Is now still a good time? Yes?
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I think I wanted her blessing to embark on
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this project to make sure I
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wasn't just opening up old wounds. If
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this was in person, i'd see if
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you had a water to drink? Do you have something
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like that around I? Do I have a bad
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rich grape juice? Great
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juice? Yeah?
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And I didn't just want to write a story about why
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Africa's case is so important that
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treated her solely as a victim or crime
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statistic. I wanted to learn
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earned more about who Africa was and
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how would you describe Africa. Just
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beautiful. She she really was beautiful.
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And I'm not just saying that she she's my daughter. She
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was beautiful. She had a very bright smile.
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My daughter was with African American
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in Caucasian, so she had
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tight, curly hair and her
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smile just she
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radiated with a smile. Is
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there like a particular memory
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that stands out when you think back about her
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everything? Um, she
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was Saffy WHI. She was a little shows She's try
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to bully her older brother. She
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would put her hands on her hips to say, I'm
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not considering you, I'm
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not considering you. Yeah,
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she was like one or two wish. She was so that
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all the time. She loved
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Disney movies like Toy
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Story was one of her favorites.
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You know, William Buzz, We'll see
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one of those people that knows the words to
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all of the songs. Yeah. She could hear song
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once and pick it up and never leave
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you alone about it. She would sing it until
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her place out. Yeah.
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Yeah,
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she's my best friend. She really
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was. We went through so
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much together. To me adding that
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mother and daughter don't usually go through.
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When you say it's like going through odd stuff,
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do you have an example, um,
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I was a little abusive relationship. My
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daughter was there with me. She helped
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me get out of it. We
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were homeless, We lived in
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hotels together. You
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know, I wasn't financially capable
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of taking care of my children. Lori
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was a young mother trying to rebuild her
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life, and she felt she couldn't provide
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Africa or her son the stability
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they needed. But she didn't want to put
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them in foster care either. Instead
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of losing my children to the system,
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I placed them where I would be a part of their
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growing up and where I knew
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they would be safe. Lorie
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enrolled her kids in Moose Heart,
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a charity run boarding school west of
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Chicago, and then she worked
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to get both feet back on the ground. Lorie
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started a new life in the suburbs of Denver,
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and once things spelt stable, she brought
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her kids out there. As
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a teen, Africa had plans to go
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to college and study to become an
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audio engineer or maybe a nurse.
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But when Africa graduated from high
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school, Lorie was working at a seven
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eleven and struggling financially,
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and Africa wasn't sure she could afford
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tuition. As she tried
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to figure out next steps. Africa decided
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to move back to Chicago, where she still
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had a lot of family. Dun
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A four teams. She
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were back to Chicago. She
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went back with my ex cousind. She's
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nineteen, so not like she was a
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little kid or anything like that, but her
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cousin wanted to get her a job
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like the post office. I
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don't know what happened. Was that exactly
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why she moved his unclear. Laurie
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says she was nineteen and looking for independence.
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Other relatives wonder whether
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she was trying to avoid putting financial
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strain on her mom. Regardless,
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Chicago was expensive but exciting,
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and there were so many possibilities, so
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many things to do, people to meet.
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There was a bigger city than when
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she used us to about her in Denver. It
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was hard to get around. You know, she had a car,
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so you know, getting on the boat with you
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know, a little scary horror. But
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she was trying to
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figure things out for herself out there.
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Was that scary for you or did you feel
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like she could handle it? It was definitely
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scary, not being close enough to
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know exactly what's really going on. So
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it was definitely hard when
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we did talk. She was okay, and
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you know, she had the two friends
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and she was going out to eat
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nice places and she had nice polls.
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I had no idea anything was
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going on. When
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I think back now, I wonder maybe
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I could have prevented this. When
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we were talking and she was telling me where she was
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going out to eat or whatever, they never
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registered. In my mind, I
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still beat myself up. Why
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didn't the register to me? But maybe
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she was throwing the signs. I
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don't think that you know everything about child,
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because there's something that they're not telling you.
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They're either scared to tell you, but there
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is a shame to tell you. If
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I knew that this is going
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on, I would have stopped it. I
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would have went out there my child back
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home. Do
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you remember the last interaction you
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had with Africa? It was through
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Facebook. He has sent
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me two pictures and she
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said she was getting fat and I
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said, no, you're not. And
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then I got off of work on Thursday
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and I thought I had misplaced my phone.
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So I had message through Facebook
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and told her I think
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I may have lost my phone. So if you need
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me, messaged me on Facebook.
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That was Thursday night going
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into Friday. I didn't
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hear anything back on around Friday.
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Then the following days when I found out.
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It was the making of my fiancing birthday.
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So we had went out to eat earlier
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that day and we were just at home.
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Lest you walking dead, I
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received a message from my ex husband's
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girlfriends. She
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messaged me oundkasebook and she said,
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you need to call Tasha. It's
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about Africa. I
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just thought Africa might be trying to contact
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me through Patasha too, that's her cousin. I
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mean, so, did you really pay any attention
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to it? She messaged me back Abound ten minutes
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later, she said, you really need to call in
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regard to Africa. So
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I called Tashay are
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you doing She said, we were
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up at the corner's office. We have to identify
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Africa's body. Nothing,
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she said, pick my brain.
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I'm like the corner for what And
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she said, or we
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had to identify African's body.
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She said my daughter's name, and
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it hit me and I black
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out. When
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I came to I just looked up
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at my fiancee that Africa
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is dead. Cashould
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call me back and she told
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me what happens, and
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um, it just
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unreal to me. She was
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trying to give me details in phone numbers
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that I had a call, I
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had a contract. The leading detective on the
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case, Detective Forward. Detective
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Forward informed me that I'd probably hear some things
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about my child that I
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don't want to believe, but to know that
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it was true. On
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Friday, October, Lori
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was waiting for a response to message
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she had sent her daughter Africa,
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but Africa had already left Chicago.
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In fact, she had already left Illinois.
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She was forty five miles southeast
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in Indiana, living a life
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that she had never told her mom about. She'd
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gone to meet up with a man who she had only
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spoken to online. Originally,
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she was going to meet him earlier in the day,
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but he'd pushed things back because he said
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he couldn't find a babysitter. Africa
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knew it was risky to meet strangers from
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the internet, and she wanted to be safe,
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so she let her friend Shimika know where
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she was and what she was doing, and
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then texted her when
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she met up with the man. Shimika
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was expecting another text from her when
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things wrapped up, but
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hours passed and the second text
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never came, so Shimika
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texted Africa's phone to check in. After
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a delay, she got a response, but
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the message seemed strange. She
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didn't think it sounded like something Africa would
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right. Shamika
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started to worry that something was wrong, so
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she tried calling Africa, but she couldn't
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get through. Shamika kept
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calling over and over, but Africa
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wasn't picking up. So
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Shamika called another friend, Eduardo,
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and they drove out to investigate. They
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arrived at the address. It was a motel
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six just off Interstate nine. Eduardo
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and Shamika found Africa's room and
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knocked on the door, but
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no one answered, so
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they got someone from the motel to let them
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in. They didn't
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see anyone inside the motel room,
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but the shower was running. They
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called out to whoever was there, but
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got no response. As
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they walked into the room, they saw
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the bed was at a strange angle. One
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of Africa's shoes, a platform
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stiletto, was lying on its side.
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They saw a shirt button on the floor,
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a broken fingernail, and a
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torn condom wrapper. They
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crept slowly toward the bathroom
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and knocked on the door, but again
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there was no response. Maybe
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someone had just left the shower running, so
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they cracked the door open. Shamika
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screamed and ran out of the room.
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Africa Hardy was lying in the tub,
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the shower water beating down on her. There
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was a thin red bruise going all the way
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around her neck. Just
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above that literature mark. Detectives
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notice that Africa had a tattoo.
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It was a Bible verse. It read,
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no weapon that is formed against
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me shall prosper it
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tap the floor informed me that I you hear some
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things about my child that I don't
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want to believe, but to know that
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it was true. She was
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an escort, prostituting,
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however you want to word it. Yeah,
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definitely something you don't want to know about
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your fine teen year old, beautiful child who
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could have had anything, done
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anything that she wanted to. Detective
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Forward had learned that Africa was working
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as a call girl and that was
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how Africa came into contact with
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the man she met at the motel. He
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was a client. I
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can definitely a hundred percent day that
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my children will not raised that way.
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But my children no struggle and
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they know how to overcome
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struggle. And maybe at that time
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Africa may have up that was the way to
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overcome struggle. I don't
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know. I think a lot of
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it has to do with the older female that she
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defriended. Him was
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twenty six. Was you that my daughter? My
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daughter was nine too, and
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I think she kind of primmed
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in prop Africa. You
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know, the new girl on the block. She's beautiful
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and you can make some money off
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of her. M Still to this
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day, I don't know why she decided to
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do what she did. I don't
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know, I don't know. I will never
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get that answer. Did
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you ever talk to that friend? Yeah,
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so I did speak with her, Like one time,
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we were on the phone for about a good hour and
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she mentioned that Africa, but hey,
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it's best money, put money,
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easy money, that Africa
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wanted to come back to Denver. She
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wanted to know, to help take care of her mom.
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So I'm going to assume that that's why,
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you know it happened. Yea.
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You know, it's hard to put myself in your shoes.
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But I imagine that that's kind of confusing to hear
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because in some ways it's like, you
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know, that's a great thing, she wants to
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to help you, But
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then it's also like hard because it's you
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know, like kind of connects you to it
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or something like that. Does that make
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sense exactly? Yeah, Like
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I feel guilty. I
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mean I feel guilty about the whole scenario,
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but the part that she wanted
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to help me, you know, since
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Africa was little, I guess she's always looked
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up to me, and I have little letters and know
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if that she write me, and so when
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I get famous, I'm not going to have to
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worry about anything anymore. I
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think in her mind, you
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know, she thought that she really had to take care of
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me because now that she was grown,
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it was her turn. You know, mother takes
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care of child, nor child had to take care of
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mother. It was just something
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in her that she thought she wanted
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to do to me. That speaks
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to you know that you guys
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were close and that she wanted to help
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you. When
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I've talked to people, lots of people talk
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about guilt, even in situations
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where it doesn't really make sense. I
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think that that is also sometimes just
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like part of losing someone you're very
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close to, you always kind of wonder. Yeah,
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if there's a lot of things I wonder about. Did
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she begged for him to stop? She
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begged him for her life? You know, I was like,
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I wonder these things. I
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don't know if I'm wrong for wondering that. I
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just want to know what my daughter's wife
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words were when
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we first reached out to me. You said
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something about old wounds.
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This is not an old wound. This is a daily
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wound, you know, and um to
18:43
adjusted things, but it never
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goes away, It never
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ever goes away. UM.
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I was telling my girlfriend that I was getting
18:51
ready to do this interview, and her
18:54
father passed away a year ago,
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and you know, a very different situation.
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And but she feels like other
19:02
people get uncomfortable when she
19:04
talks about it, like they don't want her
19:06
to feel bad, but she wants to talk
19:08
about him. Very true, very
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true, very very very true. People
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think that you're like completely broken, and
19:16
they don't want to say anything or mention anything.
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But in order for me to keep my
19:21
daughter's voice going, I have to
19:23
talk about it. Let me talk. If I have
19:25
to cry, and let me cry. If I wanted
19:28
to laugh, let me laugh. So
19:30
people are really like that. They're still like that
19:32
with me today. So it
19:35
is what it is. So before you
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were saying that you're like kind of curious about
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this, like you wanted to figure out a lot
19:42
about what was going on after this happened.
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Yeah, I still have some curiosities, and there's
19:47
still some things that I think
19:50
me to be done and could be done. Like
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I get angry because he killed
19:56
my daughter and my daughter was found
19:58
enough freaking hotel m naked
20:01
in a shower. Why
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you know, I get her? You
20:06
know why angry
20:09
myself. Here's another thing. I
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wonder why this
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guy we've left
20:16
loose because
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here's the crazy thing about Africa's case.
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Well, Africa's death was senseless
20:26
and seemed utterly random.
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It wasn't random.
20:30
It was part of a pattern. And
20:33
years earlier, a man named Thomas
20:35
Hargrove had tried to warn police.
20:38
He said he had evidence that a serial
20:40
killer was on the loose, strangling
20:43
young women in the area, women
20:45
just like Africa. Hardy.
20:49
So, who was Thomas Hargrove and
20:51
what was his evidence? Unfortunately,
20:54
Bury, Indiana is a good place to be a killer
20:57
because you're probably going to get away with him.
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Hey, Ben, can you hear me? I'm
21:19
speaking with Thomas Hargrove over zoom
21:22
here. Hold on one second. I have to warn my wife. I'm
21:25
doing an interview. Harkerve's
21:27
the guy who warned police in Indiana
21:29
that they might have a serial killer and the loose Hargrove
21:34
sixty four. He's got a white
21:36
beard and wear thin rimmed glasses.
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He wasn't the sort of guy I imagined would be
21:41
investigating serial killers, so
21:44
he's curious how he got into all this. I
21:47
don't know where these things come from, but when
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I was seventeen, I decided I had
21:51
to be a reporter, and investigative
21:53
reporter, an investigative
21:56
reporters, somebody looking into
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a truth that somebody is trying
22:01
to hide, Like Africa.
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Hardy Hargrove grew up outside
22:05
Chicago. He was inspired
22:08
by journalists there who came up with
22:10
a creative way to expose the city's
22:12
corruption. Reporters kept
22:14
hearing about the bribes that business owners
22:16
had to pay city inspectors, but
22:18
it was hard to prove any wrongdoing, so
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the journalists decided to go deep undercover.
22:25
The reporters fought their editor into
22:27
opening a bar. They called it the
22:30
Mirage. Journalists were actually
22:32
becoming bar keeps, and they were running this
22:35
bar for months and months. They
22:37
were specifically looking for indications
22:40
of public corruption. And they
22:42
found it. With hidden
22:44
cameras running, the reporters caught
22:46
inspectors taking bribes and ignoring
22:49
code violations. It
22:51
was a remarkable project, and
22:54
it just seemed like it was so much fun. I
22:57
wanted to be like these people. After
23:00
high school, Hargrove studied journalism
23:03
at the University of Missouri. It's actually
23:05
one of the country's top programs for journalism
23:08
at that time. In the early seventies,
23:10
a new field was emerging called computer
23:13
assisted reporting. The
23:16
idea was that reporters could use computers
23:18
to analyze data like government records.
23:22
Hard grow quickly grasped that computing
23:24
had the potential to revolutionize
23:26
investigative journalism. It
23:28
allowed reporters to step back and look
23:31
at issues with a wider lens. From
23:33
this new perspective, sometimes
23:35
previously invisible patterns would come
23:37
into focus. If you didn't ask
23:40
the question in exactly the right
23:42
way, your program would fail. And
23:44
it was very frustrating, but
23:46
it was astonishing what computers could
23:49
do. After
23:51
college, Hargrove landed a job as
23:53
a crime reporter for the Birmingham Post
23:56
Herald. Being a police
23:58
reporter in the Deep South was
24:00
a remarkable way to get started.
24:02
I came as a Yankee and really wasn't
24:05
expecting to like that experience, but I
24:07
did. Her Grove loved the work
24:09
experience he was getting, but being a police
24:11
reporter wasn't always easy.
24:14
It's one thing to think I want to write
24:16
exposes about crooked politics.
24:19
That's another thing to see
24:22
what happens because of bad policies,
24:25
poverty and desperation and
24:28
violence. Hard Grove kept
24:30
a police scanner running all the time, even
24:33
at home. If
24:36
he heard a dispatch that sounded newsworthy,
24:38
he'd immediately drive out to the scene of the crime.
24:42
Sometimes, if he happened to be nearby,
24:44
he would beat the cops there. One
24:47
was at a convenience store in Hoover,
24:49
Alabama. I opened the
24:51
door and didn't see anybody,
24:55
and then found the cashier behind
24:58
the counter. The cashier
25:01
had been shot. He was
25:03
lying on the ground leading out.
25:06
He didn't say anything. He
25:08
wasn't especially conscious,
25:11
but he breathed
25:14
his last It
25:16
is an experience to see
25:18
someone die. I
25:22
didn't really think when
25:24
I was a teenager what it was
25:26
like to cover the news. I
25:29
guess I didn't realize that when you
25:31
experience the news rather than just
25:33
right about it. It really is
25:35
a life changing process.
25:40
Hard Group's time as a crime reporter
25:43
was also when he first learned about serial
25:45
killers and a phenomenon called
25:47
linkage blindness. In
25:50
the late nineties seventies, the
25:52
term serial killer did not exist.
25:55
That was invented in the eighties. The
25:58
term did not exist, but the idea
26:00
that someone could kill over and
26:02
over again was becoming common
26:05
among Americans at
26:07
that time. Just to the east
26:09
of Birmingham, Atlanta was experiencing
26:12
the Atlanta child murders, and
26:15
those murders were not being solved. It's
26:18
unusual for children to be murdered.
26:21
It's very unusual for child
26:23
murders to go unsolved, and
26:26
there was criticism of the Atlanta Police
26:28
Department for not recognizing the patterns
26:31
sooner. I started
26:33
attending academic symposiums
26:36
that looked into the question of the Atlanta
26:39
child murders, and I heard
26:41
from criminologists that this
26:43
is a well known problem called linkage
26:46
blindness, that
26:48
when there are connected cases, often
26:51
the connection is not made by police
26:54
because of the nature of how homicides
26:56
are investigated. If
26:59
someone murdered, a detective is assigned
27:02
to the case. When another person
27:04
is murdered, Usually a different detective
27:06
is assigned to the case. If
27:08
there are commonalities to the
27:10
two murders, those commonalities
27:13
are not recognized unless those two
27:15
detectives have a conversation over
27:17
the water cooler. If
27:19
those killings occurred in a neighboring
27:22
jurisdiction, that conversation
27:24
never happens. Experts
27:26
in the field, we're saying that most
27:29
connected murders go unrecognized.
27:32
The links are very rarely made, and
27:34
I kept that in the back of
27:36
my mind. Hargrove
27:39
didn't know it yet, but this simple
27:41
insight about linkage blindness,
27:44
that connections between murders are often
27:46
missed by police, That idea
27:48
would become an obsession and completely
27:51
alter the course of his life. But
27:54
his next clue wouldn't come until
27:56
decades later, when he was halfway across
27:59
the country. Hargrove
28:01
had climbed up through the ranks, and in
28:03
two thousand four he was living
28:06
his teenage dream.
28:08
He was working as an investigative reporter
28:10
in Washington, d C. And
28:12
he was using the programming skills he learned
28:15
in college to write big data
28:17
driven stories. In
28:19
two thousand four, I
28:22
was assigned to do a really interesting
28:24
story. He just started
28:26
a piece on prostitution when
28:29
he stumbled across another clue.
28:31
In some cities, anti prostitution
28:34
laws are vigorously enforced. In
28:36
other cities, the laws are virtually
28:38
ignored, and in other cities just
28:41
the men who higher prostitutes are
28:43
arrested. So it was all
28:45
across the board, who gets arrested,
28:47
whether anyone gets arrested. To
28:49
study this, I needed the uniform
28:52
crime report because prostitution
28:54
is something the FBI counts, So
28:56
hart Grove ordered a CD with FBI
28:59
records about crime. He was planning
29:01
to compare prostitution arrest between
29:03
different cities when he discovered
29:06
something else. Included
29:09
on that CD at no
29:11
extra charge was a file
29:13
I had never heard of, called the Supplemental
29:16
Homicide Report. Being
29:19
paid to be curious, I opened it up and
29:22
what it was was line after
29:24
line of individual murders.
29:27
It showed the age, race, sex
29:30
of each victim. Victim is a blackmail
29:33
eighteen years old. It had the weapon
29:35
that was used. He was shut with a handgun.
29:38
It had the police theory as
29:40
to why the homicide occurred. The
29:42
murder is thought to be due to an argument over
29:44
money or property. It had the month
29:46
and year and the jurisdiction
29:49
January two thousand, Los Angeles,
29:51
Long Beach, California. I
29:54
had never seen the individual
29:56
crime data before, and
29:58
I don't know where all
30:00
these connections occur in our minds,
30:03
But the first thought I had upon
30:06
opening the s HR the Supplemental
30:08
Homicide Report was could
30:10
we teach a computer to identify
30:13
connected cases to find
30:16
serial killings? Hard
30:18
Grove had a feeling that an algorithm
30:21
could find patterns within that data and
30:23
detect serial killers. And
30:26
maybe you could even be used to detect
30:28
active serial killers who had not yet
30:30
been caught. This
30:32
idea started hard Grove down a winding
30:35
path that eventually led him
30:37
to discover a trail of bodies, bodies
30:40
that he says, we're left behind by
30:42
the man who killed Africa Hardy.
30:45
But this isn't just a story investigating
30:47
Africa Hardy's killer and cold
30:49
cases that might be connected to him.
30:52
If there's one thing that will become clear
30:54
from this story, it's that Africa
30:56
Hardy didn't need to die
31:02
next time on algorithm.
31:05
Serial killer Gary Ridgway
31:08
was convicted in a court of law of
31:10
murdering forty eight girls and women.
31:13
The question was could we teach
31:15
a computer a process
31:17
that would tell us that something god awful
31:20
happened in Seattle. My editors
31:22
recognized that this could be something
31:25
very cool, but it's hard to
31:27
commit to a project you don't
31:29
know up front whether it's possible. The stereotypes
31:32
about the profile of a serial killer or
31:34
profile of the victims is not really
31:36
very consistent with the facts. This
31:39
is really one of the most frustrating experiences
31:42
of my life. Your
31:44
only hope is to get Jackie to talk. I
31:47
think the Gary Police Department should be looking at
31:49
some of those old cases. They
31:52
still may have a killer out there. Episode
31:55
two of Algorithm is out now. Listen
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episode was written and produced by me ben
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Key Brick. Algorithm is executive
32:11
produced by Alex Williams, Donald Albright,
32:13
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32:16
in mixing by Eric Quintana. The
32:18
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