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Tuesday, 18th April 2023
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0:00

Coming up next on All About Android, it's me,

0:02

Jason Howell, and my co-host tonight,

0:04

Wyn Twitth Dhow. It's just the two of us hanging

0:07

out, talking Android. We talk about

0:09

Android 14 beta 1, which

0:12

you can get right now on most of

0:14

the Pixel phones anyways. You

0:17

can get it right now. Android 13, sometimes forgotten

0:19

because it's not Android 14. Hey, it's

0:22

on a roll. It's actually doing pretty good, it looks

0:24

like. The Pixel Fold, totally

0:26

going to happen. Things looking real certain

0:29

for Google I.O.

0:30

Bing, contrary

0:32

to some articles and the beginning of us

0:34

talking about the story, isn't actually

0:37

replacing Google search on Samsung phones

0:39

anytime soon. Meet makes

0:41

way for Meet, and your email.

0:44

Coming up next on All About Android.

0:49

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0:53

This is Twit. This

0:58

is All About Android, episode 626, recorded

1:00

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1:24

Hello,

1:28

and welcome to All About

1:30

Android, your weekly source for latest news, hardware,

1:33

and apps for the Android faithful. I'm Jason

1:35

Howell.

1:37

And I'm Gwyneth White-Dowdell. And

1:39

Gwyn, it's great to see you. We

1:42

have no third tonight. When

1:44

we were kind of leading up to this show, I was like, Gwyn,

1:47

you want to just do a show, you and I? I

1:49

don't know that we have done that since you've come on

1:51

as a full-time host. And

1:54

I like these kinds of shows.

1:55

Dynamic duo. That's

1:58

right. Yes. That's right. First

2:00

of all, I want to congratulate you. You had a

2:02

big week. Tell us a little bit

2:04

about your week. Just real quick, summarize,

2:07

like why was it so big for a win? Well,

2:10

I was at Kotlin Conf, 2023, the first

2:12

Kotlin Conf in like four years. And yes, we,

2:15

it was all about Kotlin. It's thrown by the company

2:17

that makes Kotlin jet brains. And I was very busy.

2:19

I gave a technical talk.

2:21

I did eight interviews, uh, with

2:23

other speakers at the conference and I was in the closing panel.

2:26

Um, and yeah, it was huge. I was very busy,

2:28

but it was really great. Um, and yeah, Kotlin

2:31

rules. And I got to just think about Kotlin for two

2:33

days straight and it was, that's not a bad thing. That's

2:35

a great thing.

2:36

I mean, ladies and gentlemen,

2:38

fans of this show should know that when

2:40

was doing a talk and could

2:42

have been upwards of a thousand people in the room.

2:45

And I just think of a thousand people all

2:48

there to geek out about Kotlin. That's

2:50

pretty awesome. You, you had your,

2:52

I mean, that that's your crowd, right? The

2:55

right people listening to the right person.

2:58

It was, and I, I brought the energy with

3:00

two and a half hours of sleep because that's generally what happens

3:02

before I give a talk. I just can't stop practicing

3:05

it. Two and a half hours of sleep. I

3:07

brought the energy and I brought the energy

3:10

some more. And yeah, I mean, that's what

3:11

common. You crashed. I

3:14

did eventually. Yes. Two days later. Yes.

3:17

I might still be kind of like crashing a little, just

3:19

kind of more like, uh, like, like a leaf

3:22

kind of falling to the ground, but I have

3:24

enough energy for the lovely Android

3:26

faithful.

3:27

Oh, good. Because

3:29

you're, you're bringing the energy. I'm

3:31

bringing the news. Cause holy moly, we've

3:33

got some news to talk about. Now, last week

3:35

on the show, when you missed last week,

3:38

um, cause obviously you were where

3:40

you were just told us all about, um, we

3:43

had no hardware news. If there was

3:45

hardware news, I didn't include it because

3:47

we had enough news news

3:50

and then some app news to fill the

3:52

entire show this week. We got some hardware

3:55

news. And so, you know, just

3:57

buckle up for that. We got news of all

3:59

different types.

3:59

We're truly putting the latest news

4:02

hardware and apps into this episode

4:04

for the Android faithful. So why don't we get right into

4:06

it with the news? Take

4:08

us there, Burke.

4:11

Wow, you really, the pressure.

4:15

Yeah. We're going to

4:17

talk about stuff that Michelle finds.

4:19

We're going to talk about things.

4:22

Okay. That works, Burke. You did good.

4:25

Even with all that pressure. Uh,

4:28

when you, you were not on last week, so

4:30

you get the top story.

4:32

Woo. And the top story is

4:34

very much informed by our very own

4:36

Michelle Ramon, who has a mega thread

4:39

of everything that's new in Android 14 beta one.

4:43

There is a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot

4:45

of stuff. And as usual, you should

4:47

go back to the source and check out Michelle's thread

4:50

on Twitter, but we'll

4:52

cut, we'll cap some of our favorite, our

4:54

little bit of our favorites in this Android 14

4:56

beta one. Uh, there's

4:59

a lot of, there's a lot of pin presies

5:01

for your pins, print, pin, pin perks, a

5:03

lot of pin perks. So pin

5:05

perks. So in Android 14,

5:08

you'll actually be able to have

5:10

something called pin privacy, toggleable

5:13

that basically disables animations while entering

5:15

your pin. So if you've got any kind of shoulder

5:17

surfers, kind of just looking, looking

5:19

to steal, you know, your little, uh,

5:21

yeah, gestures or just try to

5:23

like, otherwise for nefarious means,

5:25

still your pin. That is an option you can disable

5:28

animations, which I think it's actually really awesome.

5:30

Yeah. I've actually wondered about this when

5:32

I enter in my pin, it does

5:34

have those little splooshy animations and

5:36

stuff. Well, you know, that, that just

5:39

calls more attention to the thing that's actually

5:41

being pressed. Anyway, that you can

5:43

obscure that is probably a good thing. So I

5:45

like that. Yes.

5:47

Yes. In app development, we generally like feedback

5:49

when a user does something, but maybe if it's your pin

5:51

or other sensitive information, maybe you can do without

5:53

it. Yeah. In another,

5:56

in other pin perks, Android 14

5:58

may soon be supporting.

5:59

the, well actually is

6:02

also, so also in 14 is the new

6:04

auto confirm correct pin, which

6:07

basically is just any kind of pin

6:09

prompt

6:10

on a piece, like these,

6:12

the, the, the pin prompt perk will,

6:15

will basically auto confirm your

6:17

correct. If you enter in a correct pin, it will just automatically

6:19

go ahead, go forward instead of you having to hit enter.

6:22

Although and I know we've talked about this before that

6:25

while this is very convenient, you

6:28

know, it's, it may not necessarily be

6:30

the best thing in terms of, you know, negating,

6:33

you know, nefarious nefarious

6:36

folks who are looking to break into your phone.

6:39

So along with the auto confirm correct

6:41

pin, there is a message saying, Hey, would you like,

6:43

or maybe you should think about having a six digit

6:46

pin because it is safer. But

6:48

anyway, if you want to

6:51

just get a little bit of extra time

6:53

back in your day by not pressing the enter button for your

6:55

tent, you can get that with auto confirm

6:57

pin. Like of all the second,

6:59

the second you will save in every day. Yeah,

7:05

yeah,

7:05

for sure. These, um, let's

7:07

see. I really liked this one. Uh,

7:09

Android 14 is expanding support for physical keyboards.

7:12

Uh, this also includes by the way,

7:15

um, kind of remapping because obviously

7:17

keyboards, one thing that, that is that

7:19

can be very, uh, P I T A with physical

7:21

keyboards is where the modifier keys go. Cause they

7:23

can get a layout so you can actually map them.

7:26

There might be support for backlit keyboard

7:29

controls. I can throw in that backlight from Android

7:31

as an led like fan. Um,

7:34

I like, I like that a lot.

7:35

Um, obviously those features

7:38

potentially come in really handy as Google

7:40

nears the release of its tablet. And

7:43

I'm imagining with its tablet will

7:45

have some sort of like keyboard

7:47

attachment thingy. Although

7:49

I don't know that we've seen any leaks as far as that's

7:51

concerned. Our pixel leak segment is later

7:54

in the show, but, um, I have to imagine

7:56

features like this, you know, it's kind of like, kind

7:58

of like the foldables and everything.

7:59

you know, making sure that we've got the foldable

8:02

part of the OS all tight. And then sure

8:04

enough, we've got the pixel fold coming

8:06

down the pipeline as well. So I'm

8:08

sure they're related.

8:10

Yeah, for sure. These kind of

8:12

lining up, lining up the shot, lining

8:14

up the putt putt or whatever

8:16

for large screen devices like both golf

8:19

analogies work. I

8:21

don't know golf. My husband's a golfer. I just kind

8:23

of like, just like parrot what

8:25

he says and hope it's done. Punts

8:27

sure. That's a golf. What sport is that?

8:29

Yeah. Oh yeah. That's totally a golf term

8:31

Burke pun. I got confused for a

8:33

second. See, no, we can't do that.

8:36

We can't do that. As we keep sports off

8:39

the show, I'm thinking, I'm

8:41

a very

8:41

stereotypical engineer. Uh, let's see

8:43

what else we got. We also get, okay, this

8:45

is, this is ostensibly not a huge deal, but you,

8:48

there is a new weather toggle

8:50

that allows you to kind of toggle the weather display

8:52

on the lock screen. Now this kind

8:55

of like what NBD, right? But, um,

8:57

Michelle didn't speculate, uh, back in March

8:59

that this might be, you know, due to

9:01

new lock screen customization options. So it might be

9:03

kind of just, you know, the first feature

9:05

in a cavalcade of lock screen optimization

9:08

features. So I don't know. Also just options

9:11

are good. Options are good. Uh,

9:13

did I miss anything Jason? I think,

9:16

I think those are like some of the big hits from here.

9:18

There's a lot of really small things, like a

9:20

lot of like little UI adjustments. A

9:22

lot of dialogues have like updated, you know,

9:25

um, wording to be a little more clear. But

9:28

I think for Android 14 beta one, those are my favorite.

9:30

Th those are a few of my favorite

9:32

things.

9:34

Well, yes. So

9:36

you got those Michelle, um,

9:39

he's been busy. I mean, he, he, he also

9:41

wrote for XDA about,

9:44

uh, this location based suggestion

9:46

for Google wallet, which is actually kind of funny

9:48

because like Google wallet used

9:50

to have that, and then there's the new Google

9:53

wallet or G pay or whatever they call it

9:55

nowadays, and it didn't have it. And now

9:57

they're bringing it back again. So, you know,

9:59

you're getting the.

9:59

that you once had all over again.

10:02

Yes, I like that because it's really confusing because,

10:04

and this might actually be kind

10:06

of a spoiler for later, but yes, before

10:09

in the previous Google Wallet, not

10:11

to be confused with the current Google Wallet, whenever

10:14

you say you had, you were in your

10:16

location where you had a loyalty card, but

10:18

a little suggestion would pop up and say, hey, you have a loyalty

10:20

card here, would you like to use it? And of course, that

10:23

is not quite available in the current Google Wallet, but

10:26

Michelle found some very interesting

10:29

values within the developer

10:31

documentation

10:31

that said something about Google

10:33

Wallet, feature-based location-based

10:36

suggestions, rather. And

10:39

so maybe you might be getting a new

10:41

feature in Google Wallet that was

10:43

an old feature in

10:44

Google Wallet. Oh,

10:47

what's old is new again. What's

10:49

old is new. And okay,

10:51

just to top it off, because we got a... Oh.

10:56

Thank you, Google. Thank you for being so helpful. I

10:59

need to set a reminder to... We appreciate

11:01

your input, Google. God, still talking. Okay,

11:04

and then in more

11:06

safety, safety features, there is

11:09

a change upcoming in Android 14 that

11:11

will improve security with

11:14

regard to two-factor authentication. So previously,

11:16

prior to 14, if you had, again, nefarious

11:20

folks writing malware

11:22

apps, they could actually use accessibility

11:25

services, which kind of provide

11:27

third-party apps the ability to read the contents

11:29

of the screen and then be able to kind of perform

11:31

inputs in the back of the user. Well,

11:33

obviously, if you let a third-party app read

11:36

the screen, that means it could read things

11:38

like, oh, I don't know, like your Google Authenticator

11:40

and other apps that generate

11:41

the code. Yeah, bad news. Bad

11:43

news, not great. So in Android 14,

11:46

to lock this down, developers can

11:48

actually prevent

11:50

non-accessibility tools from interacting with their

11:52

app. So if I am on Google Authenticator or

11:54

some other 2f8 token app, I

11:57

can say, no, thank you to letting non-accessibility...

11:59

So things like

12:02

that are actually accessibility apps like

12:04

TalkBack will still be able to access it, but

12:07

any old third-party app that is trying to access

12:09

accessibility services will be a no-go if,

12:13

again, if you're a developer of a kind

12:15

of sensitive information app and you say, no, thank you. So

12:18

there's still a lot of room there for accessibility with TalkBack,

12:21

and there's still a lot of developer choice in

12:23

there, but it is kind of plug-in

12:26

of

12:27

fairly serious hoe in terms

12:30

of 2FA and security. So, I

12:32

mean, Michelle's a busy dude, but that's a lot

12:34

of really great and interesting news

12:36

around Android 14. When

12:39

Android 14 beta 1 was announced

12:42

and released last Wednesday, so six days from now, because

12:44

it seems so often that that's the case.

12:47

We're right now talking about news

12:49

that's almost literally a week old, but

12:51

that's okay. We got to talk about

12:53

it sometime, and our show just happens to be on

12:55

Tuesday. Now that we're in

12:57

the beta realm and not developer

12:59

preview, does that lure

13:01

you in when the developer?

13:03

It really does,

13:06

especially with kind of IO around the corner. Not

13:08

that it necessarily are things related, but I think beta

13:11

is when I really start thinking, okay, I need to adopt

13:13

this. I need to put it on my phone,

13:16

see if my app breaks. Also, I

13:18

think it's starting to, the features that

13:20

are in it are sort of crystallized, and so as a

13:22

developer and as an end user, yeah, I

13:25

want to know what's coming. I want to know what's coming and

13:27

if there's anything, any goodies that I need to take

13:29

advantage of. So, yeah, beta 1, it's a

13:31

good time. It's a good time to get in on it. Well,

13:33

we've been talking about Michelle

13:35

already so much on this episode, and

13:37

there's more, because this isn't, I

13:39

don't think, related specifically

13:42

to Android 14, or if it is,

13:44

Android police certainly didn't

13:46

mention it by name slash number,

13:49

but Michelle has

13:51

shared something about Bluetooth

13:54

on Android. It points to a recent patch

13:56

to the AOSP repository that implements

13:58

super- wideband

14:01

speed. This is related

14:03

to features in Bluetooth's hand-free

14:05

profile version 1.9. His

14:08

assumption is that it, and

14:10

I quote, enables even higher

14:13

quality voice transmission over Bluetooth

14:15

hands-free profile to

14:18

upgrade Android to super wideband

14:20

and use a relatively new LC3

14:24

codec. What does this all mean?

14:26

It basically means near full band reproduction.

14:30

It's also an increase in sample

14:32

rate from 16 to 32 kilohertz.

14:35

So it's basically a big leap in quality

14:38

from network to network. Of

14:40

course, the tricky thing there is

14:43

the hardware also has to support that,

14:45

but it's nice to know that the

14:48

underlying OS would

14:50

support that to begin with. That's where all

14:52

this stuff starts after all. So

14:56

better quality Bluetooth calls

14:58

coming to you. Not as

15:01

fuzzy, depending on the device that you're using,

15:03

if it supports this, could sound

15:05

really, really good.

15:08

Not bad. 32 kilohertz. 32 kilohertz. That's

15:10

my kind of kilohertz.

15:12

Those are my kind of kilohertz.

15:15

I like the little subtle pun there. Sounds good.

15:18

Sounds good. Sounds good to me.

15:20

Does it sound good to you? And if not, you've

15:22

spent too much time in front of loudspeakers.

15:28

So thank you, Michelle, for keeping us busy.

15:31

Yeah. And to round things off, we have a little

15:33

Android 13 news just to kind of like

15:36

swing back to our dear friend, Android 13. It seems

15:39

that, who's that?

15:41

Oh man. Oh, we forgot

15:42

about you. Sorry, Android 13.

15:45

You're cool. Part of the Android version,

15:48

right? You get released and all sudden

15:50

people are just talking about the next new thing.

15:52

Yeah, totally. I know. It's got to be

15:54

hard. Well, we

15:56

have some good news. So I mean, good news for Android 13.

15:59

So Android 13.

15:59

actually doubled

16:02

its market share since January. So in January,

16:04

Android 13 was on 5% of global devices. In

16:09

April, it has reached more than 12%. So

16:12

this came, this comes from nine to five Google. And

16:14

if you compare this jump with,

16:17

you

16:17

know, Android 12, Android 12

16:19

sat at 13.3% adoption one whole year after

16:23

it was launched. And so this seems to indicate,

16:25

I mean, I mean, I guess there is a small chance

16:28

that it'll just sit at 12% for the rest of the year, but

16:30

very unlikely. So this does seem

16:32

that there has been a much quicker

16:34

adoption of Android 13 compared

16:37

to Android 12. Nine to five Google

16:39

kind of gives big props to Samsung for

16:42

this, regarding both its market share

16:44

impact as well as quick updates that

16:46

it has been kind of like trying

16:47

to keep up with and

16:49

also kind of noting, you know, other folks like

16:51

OnePlus, Oppo, Realme, which are

16:54

very related companies, being

16:57

quick to update to Android 13 as well. So

16:59

hopefully this is just a trend

17:02

of, you know, manufacturers OEMs

17:04

just being a little bit quicker on the updates

17:06

and getting everybody to the latest sooner rather

17:09

than later.

17:09

I certainly hope so. I

17:11

certainly hope so. That's, you

17:14

know, Android 13, we really

17:17

neglected you recently. We got so

17:19

excited about Android 14. You've got a lot to

17:21

give. Apparently you are

17:23

really popular and that's a good thing. So.

17:26

Despite being an unlucky number. Yeah,

17:28

that's true. Not that that

17:31

should matter. That's probably part of the reason

17:33

why we didn't, you know, want to really focus

17:35

much time on you because no one likes

17:37

unlucky numbers.

17:39

But that's pretty positive.

17:41

I mean, that seems, I mean, again, we're still

17:44

talking about a half a year after it's released

17:47

and we're at 12%, but

17:49

I mean, I don't know at what point

17:52

if ever we can expect

17:54

more than that. As we've talked

17:56

about many times on the show, there will

17:58

only ever be.

18:00

More and more devices not less and

18:02

less devices to update. Yeah, so I mean

18:04

the challenges is real for Google So

18:07

to make that kind of progress considering how many

18:09

devices are out there There's

18:11

actually a pretty big deal. So that's worth

18:13

applauding. I think

18:15

Good stuff there.

18:18

All right, so we are gonna

18:20

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18:22

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Android, Android. And now

20:19

it's time for hardware.

20:23

Now it is time for

20:26

hardware.

20:27

Did

20:31

that sound like a computer

20:33

voice?

20:34

And now it's time

20:36

for hardware because

20:40

I tried something

20:42

this week. And I don't know how I feel about

20:44

it, but I know that it was kind of useful.

20:47

So I'm ashamed to know that it

20:49

was useful. So

20:52

first of all, what is the news? The news that

20:55

we'll start with anyways is

20:57

the ASUS ROG ROG

21:00

phone. Again, every time the ROG

21:02

comes up, I always want to say ROG, but it's ROG,

21:04

isn't it? The ASUS ROG Phone 7.

21:08

It's the newest gaming phone. And,

21:11

you know, this is always the

21:13

gaming phone to beat as far

21:16

as gaming phones are concerned. Like these are always

21:18

top tier. Android Police

21:20

actually gave the ROG Phone 7

21:23

Ultimate a nine and a half out of 10. It

21:26

has the RGB lighting on

21:28

the back. It has an LED

21:31

mini display on the back. As you can see that

21:33

little swirly swirl thing there. It

21:36

has capacitive shoulder buttons,

21:39

a bright, sharp AMOLED display

21:42

on the front. The other display,

21:43

not the little one that we're looking at. It does

21:46

have the same design as last year's model,

21:48

but, you know, if it ain't broke,

21:51

don't fix it.

21:52

But when I was

21:55

kind of getting ready to do this, I was like, you know,

21:58

I love talking about hardware.

21:59

sometimes like pulling the specs

22:02

from a million different articles, sometimes it's

22:04

just like not fun, just to give

22:06

you a little peek behind the scenes. So

22:08

I was like, what about using

22:11

chat GPT to give me a spec

22:13

rundown? Maybe it can help me.

22:16

And so of course I opened up chat

22:18

GPT and it told me immediately, my data is

22:20

from da da da da da, I don't have

22:22

anything, you know, any news on this. And I was like,

22:24

okay, well then I'll use Bing. So I opened

22:26

up Bing and plugged it in

22:29

and I got to say,

22:31

it did a pretty darn good job of summarizing

22:33

this phone. And you know, it gives you the kind of references

22:37

to where it pulls each piece of information. You

22:39

know, it was running Android 13, Snapdragon 8

22:41

Gen 2, 6.78 inches

22:44

display, that

22:47

AMOLED that I was telling you about, very bright

22:49

AMOLED, up to 16 gigs of RAM,

22:53

512 gig UFS 4.0 storage, has

22:57

a triple camera array, 6,000 milliamp

23:00

hour

23:01

battery. So this thing's meant to kind of

23:03

run

23:04

for a long time, you

23:06

know, with a lot of power, these gaming phones

23:09

are thrown around. So you want your device to last

23:11

for a while. And right

23:13

now, not a US release,

23:16

but at least they aren't talking

23:18

about that anyways. I even had the

23:21

Bing chat GPT, whatever you want

23:23

to call it, convert from

23:25

a 74,999 rubies, rubles,

23:29

rubles, rubies, rubies? It's

23:31

rupees. Rupees. Am

23:33

I thinking of video game currency? Yeah,

23:35

you are. Yeah. Is

23:38

that, wait a minute, is that? It's a medically resident,

23:41

it's okay. It's a medically resident.

23:43

You were just in the gaming mode. Was that,

23:46

now I want to know what that's from. Is that from Legend

23:48

of Zelda? I was thinking,

23:50

I had Zelda pop in my head.

23:52

I think it's Zelda. I think I just quoted

23:54

the price of this phone in Zelda currency.

23:57

If you want to buy an in-game ASUS,

23:59

our ROG phone in the upcoming Zelda

24:02

game, it'll cost you this

24:04

many. This many rupees. Sorry

24:08

about that. Anyways, converted

24:10

it's $913 for the ROG phone 7. The 7

24:16

ultimate converted would be around $1,218. So

24:21

I don't know what the US cost is

24:23

going to be on this. When

24:25

it does come to the US, it will eventually.

24:28

We're talking, you know, this is a premium,

24:30

premium smartphone as we've come to expect

24:34

from this gaming, gaming

24:36

category. And especially, you know, the ROG

24:38

phones are always top tier. So I

24:41

don't know. Should I feel bad about, about

24:44

roping in some AI for, for

24:46

stats?

24:47

No, I like it. I mean, usually with the article

24:50

we're like combing through because everyone

24:53

likes to always, you know, obviously tell a story

24:55

and kind of give a lot of detail, but then,

24:56

you know, right. I know.

24:59

I love it. It actually kind of was very well

25:01

formatted. I know. I was pretty impressed.

25:03

I was really impressed. I was like, Oh wow, this is great.

25:07

Now I feel like I'm cheating. I was like, I was like,

25:09

if there's something that this thing can get right, it would

25:12

be this. What's

25:14

that Burke? Say note to self. Use

25:16

chatty deep GPT. Yeah.

25:19

Although Lee Woods in discord

25:21

has a really great question. He says, do you not

25:24

have access to Google Bard? Bard

25:27

launched while I was gone and I

25:30

am sad to say I have not used it yet.

25:32

Um, since I've come back, I've been

25:34

pretty busy. I've been filling in for Leo while

25:37

he's been out. Bard had something to say

25:39

about me.

25:40

Oh yeah. It was not accurate.

25:42

Oh, well, I think that was Bard. It

25:45

was saying that I was a host of something.

25:48

Oh, was that Bard? Because I think

25:50

it was, or was that Bard? Well, chat GPT

25:53

in the discord said that about

25:56

Jammer B about John also. Yeah,

25:59

that one was a little bit. more specific

26:02

wrong, but mine was along the same lines

26:04

as wrong. So I think these all, you know,

26:06

take them with a grain of salt. I figured it was

26:09

like, you know, be really hard to

26:11

get these exact specifications

26:14

wrong, right? Like this, yeah, almost,

26:16

almost certainly many articles are going to refer

26:19

to the fact that this phone is running Android 13.

26:21

So how, if an AI got that

26:23

wrong, I'd be like, I'd be really questioning

26:26

it, uh, more than I do already. But,

26:28

um, so yeah, it seemed like an

26:30

okay way to go. And I think you're right when

26:33

we, we also kind of formulate

26:35

or create a story around that,

26:37

that when we're talking about new hardware,

26:39

it's not

26:40

anymore. It's not about specs entirely.

26:43

It's about like the, you know, w w who

26:45

is this phone for not all phones are

26:47

made for all people. This one's very easy to target.

26:50

It's a gaming phone, you know, or it's

26:53

a phone for someone who wants

26:55

a high performing device could not

26:57

be gaming, but it looks, you

26:59

know, unique. It performs very

27:02

well. So there you go. That's

27:05

the ASUS ROG phone seven.

27:09

I love it. I will say that I think this is kind of the

27:11

perfect, um, and I think this is like

27:13

the ideal use case for, uh, chat

27:15

bot or chat GPT and the like, where,

27:18

I mean, obviously we still need to talk about this.

27:20

Uh, it's, you know, the, the job here is to kind of talk

27:22

about it and can make connections and participate

27:25

until I'm using anecdotes that are related. But

27:27

you know, the kind of like raw data parsing,

27:29

uh, that requires some, you know, English,

27:32

like natural language processing,

27:33

um, makes sense. I

27:35

don't know. I kind of like it for this. Like it's just like data,

27:39

hard data harvesting sounds nefarious.

27:41

Data organization organization. Data

27:47

collection. No, it's

27:50

all sounds bad. Boy. Yeah. It's regurgitation

27:54

regurgitation. Oh, that sounds good. Lovely.

27:59

in an innocent light that everybody

28:02

can... In its best case, it's reformatted

28:04

into a palatable... Yeah, reformatable data

28:06

reformatting. Yeah, there you go.

28:09

I can get behind that one. Well,

28:11

I hope you like it, Wen, because this next device

28:14

was also collected via chat

28:16

GPT and Bing.

28:18

I did like it, and I like

28:20

this phone. So

28:23

I have gotten very, very, very excited

28:26

in the kind of vicarious way about all the phones

28:28

that have that Sony huge

28:31

one-inch INX989 sensor. For

28:35

sure, the Xiaomi had it, and now

28:37

the Xiaomi 13 Ultra is here, and

28:39

it has it, the big one-inch Sony

28:42

sensor that I can't get my hands on because I'm a resident

28:44

of the US and they're not available here. And

28:47

unlike its predecessor,

28:48

this Xiaomi 13 Ultra has

28:50

not one, not two, not three,

28:52

but four lenses. Wow. Wow.

28:56

For lenses. Yes, and the

28:58

sensor also has 23 millimeter... Sorry,

29:04

optical image stabilization and a

29:07

variable aperture tangle. So

29:09

you can change the aperture from between F1-9 all

29:13

the way to F4. So

29:16

if you want to get cinematic and

29:18

kind of get all cinematography...

29:19

I like that. I

29:25

love that too because that's kind of obviously a tool

29:28

in the photographer

29:29

and videographer's toolkit,

29:32

toolbag, tool belt, utility

29:34

belt. And it's really funny

29:36

because we were kind of in an age where people

29:38

are very purposefully

29:41

using phones for professional

29:45

photography and videography, or at least experimenting

29:47

with it. So this only just makes sense. I love it.

29:50

Okay, so here's to the Bing Chat GPT

29:52

spec list, which again, I found very helpful.

29:55

So it's got a 6.73 inches.

29:59

display 120 Hertz refresh

30:02

rate it is running Android 13

30:05

with the you know personal Xiaomi flavor

30:08

of me UI 14

30:11

rocking the snapdragon 8gen 2 processor

30:13

up to 16 gigabytes of RAM I mean these

30:15

phones are rockin's just so much RAM oh my

30:17

goodness 16 gigabytes did

30:19

I say that right

30:20

gigabytes yeah up to 512 gigabytes of

30:24

storage oh my goodness and

30:26

yeah selfie cameras 32 megapixels but

30:29

yeah you got the 50 megapixel Y 50 megapixel

30:31

ultra wide 50 megapixel zoom and 50

30:34

megapixel telephoto in that very gorgeous

30:36

Leica branded camera bump in the back

30:38

you're living a megapixel life

30:41

it is 50 50 50 50 yeah is there a song or

30:45

something like about that anyway um

30:48

could be it or the Xiaomi 13

30:50

ultra is already available for pre-order in

30:52

China starting from 6,000 UN

30:55

which is around 870 bucks

30:58

us all the way up to

31:00

the you know slam bang in 16 gigabyte

31:03

RAM one terabyte storage option for 7300

31:06

UN which is around a thousand 60

31:08

USD but you

31:10

know we're not

31:11

gonna get it in USD or in the US

31:13

any otherwise so just something

31:15

else for me to drill over with a one-inch

31:17

you know Sony sensor maybe one day I'll get

31:20

my hands on one but

31:22

yeah I mean really cool phone

31:24

and really cool to see what is out there

31:26

and if anybody gets their hands on it and wants to

31:29

make wind jealous by writing a you know

31:31

letting me know how awesome that

31:33

is that variable

31:36

aperture that's a cool idea

31:38

oh it is really cool I wonder how how

31:41

you change the aperture whether it's a software feature where

31:43

they did I miss that is there like

31:45

a yeah

31:46

I didn't see I didn't see like

31:48

how exactly that was that

31:51

was switched I guess

31:53

it wouldn't really make sense for it to be a hardware like

31:55

ring or something maybe it's just like it's in software I guess

31:58

so yeah or either way Or

32:00

is it one of those systems where it determines,

32:03

you know, it kind of reminds me of the variable

32:05

display refresh

32:08

and some of those systems, you don't necessarily

32:10

have direct control over. It's

32:14

smart enough to go, oh, well, this is

32:16

a monochromatic, you know, view, or

32:19

there's, you know, this is black text

32:21

on white background. We'll give you

32:23

one Hertz refresh on this. Oh,

32:25

this is a full, you know, HD video.

32:28

We give you the maximum

32:29

refresh rate. So I wonder if

32:32

this is the same thing, like if it

32:34

determines what kind of aperture

32:37

setting you need based on the setting,

32:40

the scene that you're setting up.

32:42

Yeah, it could be. That

32:44

would make it easier. You know, it's smarter

32:46

than you. Don't worry, I got it. I

32:49

mean, yeah, that's kind of easy to be, but yeah, for sure

32:51

as you... Not you, I'm not, but

32:53

not to you, but just the user,

32:55

you know, these systems are always trying to be smarter

32:57

than you. Like, you don't need to

33:00

worry about that. I got you. And

33:02

sometimes that works really great. Sometimes it doesn't.

33:05

So.

33:06

It just, it just asks chat GBT what the best

33:08

aperture for this particular scene would be. Oh. And

33:11

then just parses that. And then just, I don't

33:13

know, that could be it. Yeah. Well,

33:18

so that is the Xiaomi 13 Ultra. Another

33:22

phone that we probably will not get in our hands

33:24

here because we never get the Xiaomi phones,

33:26

but still, yeah. I

33:29

like the big circular camera

33:31

bump thing that's going on. It looks, it

33:34

just takes me back to digital camera

33:38

pre-smartphone era, where

33:40

we had little digital cameras that we carried around.

33:43

Kind of looks like that. And there is a really

33:45

cool case. I think Burke had it up before.

33:47

There's a cool little case that actually makes it feel

33:49

like a digital camera because it has like the little handle

33:51

bump kind

33:52

of, Oh yeah. of the case. So

33:55

yes. There you go. There it is.

33:57

There we go. Oh, does it have, you never shuttered? Yeah,

34:01

well and it looked like it had a lens

34:03

like Then

34:05

screw Thing

34:11

it's

34:12

a ring a ring a Lens

34:18

screw thing ring

34:22

I

34:24

doubt that's a Thing

34:31

that shield it from flare, right?

34:37

Okay,

34:40

we're okay still it looks

34:42

more like a regular camera that way

34:44

yes, that's what we like We're

34:47

very easy to please It's got

34:49

a shutter filter thread says Victor

34:52

Sure, that sounds that sounds right that sounds

34:54

legit to me victory. Well that is a legit

34:56

thing on a camera. I agree. Okay

34:59

Yeah, sure. I just you can't be gonna put

35:02

filters over those Trust

35:04

us everyone. We know what we're talking about

35:07

This

35:10

next story won't be difficult to get wrong

35:12

because none of this is fact

35:15

It's all

35:17

leaks So if it's wrong

35:20

blame the leak, I don't know but John

35:22

Prosser is He's got a

35:24

pretty good record. I'd say and especially

35:27

with Google stuff He's got you know

35:29

and leading up to like pixel events and IO

35:31

and stuff I think you know a lot of

35:34

times he's he's nailed it and

35:36

in fact

35:37

Some of this is backed up by another

35:41

reputable source which I'll talk about in a second, but

35:43

first let's talk about one of the

35:45

leaks from John Prosser who says

35:48

pixel 7a if we Weren't

35:52

certain that we were gonna see it at IO He

35:54

says it's going to be announced

35:56

on May 10th, which is the date of Google

35:59

IO

35:59

is going to be available for purchase immediately.

36:02

The six a will not be discontinued.

36:05

It will come in charcoal, snow, sea,

36:08

which is like a light blue color and coral,

36:10

which is a Google store only

36:12

color

36:15

and $499 to start. So 499

36:21

to get the seven a happening

36:23

like right away with Google IO. So

36:26

announce

36:27

and S and for sale that

36:29

day. So that should be interesting where

36:32

things get

36:33

even more interesting. Is

36:36

all of the hype leading up to this pixel

36:38

fold? We've been talking about this thing for the last

36:40

couple of years, I feel like on this show. And

36:43

I mean, it really looks like it's,

36:46

it's everything seems to be pointing this

36:48

to this being a lock for Google IO

36:51

announced May 10th pre-order

36:53

from Google store May 10th. So

36:56

announced and pre-order today immediately.

36:59

Pre-order from partners and carriers on

37:01

May 30th

37:03

available June 27th. And

37:08

if you're wondering the price $1,799, that's

37:14

what John Prosser says, which

37:16

is, uh, I mean, that's the same price as the Z

37:19

fold, right? That's, yeah. Yeah, that's

37:21

very comparable. Yeah. Yeah. So not,

37:23

I mean, I guess it'd be too much to ask

37:25

for it to be cheaper. So I mean, that's kind of, that aligns.

37:28

That's fine. I'm still get my, try to get my little grubby

37:30

hands on it. May 10th. Yeah. If it, if

37:32

it opens, I'll be like, Oh, Oh, that's

37:34

going to be so sad. I'm going to be ordering another foldable from,

37:36

from my Z fold for is that, I'm

37:39

sorry. Sorry.

37:39

Z fold fold for, I

37:45

mean, they did. Yes. Um,

37:47

also, and, and so I also mentioned,

37:49

you know, another reputable source CNBC

37:52

has, uh,

37:53

according to CNBC,

37:56

they saw some sort of internal

37:59

communication. that was shared with their reporters

38:02

about it. Pixel Fold code named

38:04

Felix. The

38:07

Google claims in this internal

38:09

communications it has the quote, most durable

38:12

hinge on a foldable. Okay.

38:16

Supposedly it's water resistant.

38:19

It's pocket sized in quotes,

38:22

which I mean Z Fold 4 is pocket.

38:25

Not like aren't all smartphones pocket sized. What

38:28

is in pocket size? A tablet, like a full

38:30

size tablet is in pocket size. Yeah, like an S8. So

38:33

yeah,

38:34

I don't know. Let's

38:37

see your CNBC reports 5.8 inch screen

38:39

on the front. I

38:42

don't know how that lines up with the Z Fold. Folds

38:45

out to a 7.6 inch screen on the inside, which

38:49

is about the same as the Z Fold.

38:52

And yeah,

38:55

a little bit heavier I think than the Z Fold,

38:58

little bit stockier according to Florence

39:00

Ion on Gizmodo. Tensor

39:05

G2 chip.

39:07

This is kind of what we know about the Pixel Fold,

39:09

but it looks like it's almost certain to be happen

39:12

at Google IO. Are you excited

39:14

when? Can you contain your excitement?

39:17

I can, but I'm still excited. Like

39:20

I said, I probably will. I can't

39:22

contain my excitement because I'm tired, but.

39:26

Just few, the excitement of the Pixel

39:29

Fold for just keeping me upright for now, but

39:31

no, I am legitimately excited just

39:34

to get, I mean, we've talked about a lot of great foldables

39:36

coming out here, but again, kind of coming

39:39

out in markets that aren't as accessible to

39:41

us here in the US. So selfishly, I'm really

39:43

looking forward. And also just seeing how Google

39:45

does a foldable. Obviously they, as

39:48

a developer, I've been hearing about foldables

39:50

and flipables and large screens for many

39:52

years now. And as usual,

39:54

especially from the developer community, we generally

39:56

like

39:56

Google to go first and to set a

39:59

precedent and to give.

39:59

hardware like you know stock-ish

40:02

Android hardware to test on so heck

40:04

yeah I'm excited and I said like like I'm

40:07

for real if it shows up on May 10th pre-order

40:10

shows up on May 10th I'll be ordering it regardless

40:12

of where I'm at maybe that might be in the keynote or

40:14

whatever you're gonna see me my poor little Z

40:17

Fold 4 I still love you bud ordering

40:19

a pixel fold maybe they can just live

40:21

together in my pockets man I need bigger

40:23

pockets

40:24

yeah if

40:26

you're gonna have both of them living together

40:28

in your pockets you do need bigger pockets oh

40:31

go back to cargo pants actually that

40:33

was what Mateo was saying yeah cargo

40:36

pants are great for multi-device

40:38

carriers absolutely like

40:40

military pants with giant yeah

40:43

giant pockets either that

40:45

or holsters you could you could do

40:47

the holster for your smartphone thing

40:50

well then I will definitely get software security

40:53

like you do that's true yeah I did maybe

40:56

don't want to go there no

40:58

pixel fold okay so I mean

41:00

I guess we just got to prepare for the pixel fold

41:02

future because it's right

41:04

around the corner like it's less it's

41:06

well yeah it's less than a month away

41:08

that's crazy three

41:10

weeks three weeks whoa

41:13

when you put it that way it makes it even crazier

41:15

I kind of can't believe that holy moly it's gonna be so

41:17

great though yeah I get to see you in

41:24

person yeah get to see I has

41:27

he talked about it has

41:29

he talked about it should we wait till next okay

41:32

we'll wait we'll wait you maybe get to

41:34

see people other people that would

41:36

be awesome at Google IO but I'm not gonna

41:38

say any more than that cuz I don't know if I'm allowed

41:40

to but I'm just gonna leave it very obscure

41:43

like that okay you

41:45

wink mmm well yes you

41:47

probably did up next

41:49

we've got some app news

41:52

all

41:55

right let's check out some app news

42:07

Okay, when you got the first one, this

42:10

is an interesting story. I wasn't sure if it was really

42:12

app news, but I just put it down here anyways,

42:14

just because. It's

42:18

a spicy plate of something news

42:20

and I'm very happy to cover it. So

42:23

there is a report, according to report

42:25

from the New York Times,

42:27

Samsung is thinking about dumping Google

42:29

search as its default search and replacing

42:31

it with.

42:35

Bing. Yes. So

42:39

according to the New York Times, internal messages from

42:41

Google indicate that they quote panicked

42:44

when learning that Samsung was considering a switch

42:47

of the default search engine on the Galaxy

42:49

line of devices, both phones and tablets.

42:52

I mean, maybe like about

42:54

a year and a half ago, this might have seemed real,

42:57

real weird, but I

42:59

think we all can imagine why

43:01

this switch might be

43:04

considered considering some of the

43:06

big news that

43:08

we have listened to. And I guess now

43:10

in this show in particular participated in as

43:13

active like users. The

43:15

speculation is basically that chat, chat,

43:17

TPT integration that, you

43:20

know, that, you know, Samsung

43:22

might be wanting to kind of leverage that

43:25

as their phone search. And

43:28

like this would be a huge blue, a

43:30

huge blue, a huge blow to Google

43:32

who gets 3

43:34

billion annually from

43:36

Samsung right now as its default search. This

43:41

is all kind of up in the air,

43:43

like Samsung still talking to Google,

43:46

Samsung still talking to Microsoft presumably

43:48

or reportedly. So I mean, who knows what actually

43:51

will happen. So I mean,

43:53

we've reported previously on how Google is kind of

43:55

like all hands on deck, kind of trying

43:58

to, you know,

44:00

really with releasing Bard and trying to, you know, like

44:03

moving, you know, executives

44:05

and staff around to kind of get, you know, Bard,

44:08

you know,

44:09

in the same position, I guess, as chat GPT.

44:12

They are going to try to bring Bard

44:14

AI to search under

44:16

a project codename Magi, I guess

44:19

wise, wise folks, wise, wise AI.

44:21

So, yeah, we'll

44:24

see what happens. It is possible that

44:26

Google will unveil Magi in

44:28

May, May when

44:30

other things might be

44:32

maybe, maybe there's

44:35

something happening in May that we

44:37

might see this at.

44:40

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe I

44:43

don't know. So

44:46

I will, I do want to point out, cause

44:48

I wasn't aware of this, but there is,

44:51

there is definitely pushback on

44:53

whether this would even be possible and actually

44:55

kind of makes sense. And actually I'm pulling from

44:58

an article on

45:00

Android authority. So thank

45:02

you chat room for, for

45:04

calling my attention to this, which, so

45:06

the article says, Samsung can't dump Google

45:09

for Bing as the default search engine on

45:11

its phone and on its phones. And

45:13

the reason for this is because of Google's mobile

45:16

application distribution agreement, the

45:18

MATA, which basically requires

45:21

Android OEMs to pre-install

45:23

Google search and use it

45:26

as the default, which actually

45:28

makes a lot of sense, right? It's like that tool

45:30

of, or it's that, it's that bag of,

45:33

of Google

45:35

apps and services that if you want

45:37

to run, you know, if, if you

45:39

agree to this, then you get access to all of Google's,

45:41

you know, really top tier stuff.

45:43

And that does include Google search as the requirement.

45:46

And would Samsung

45:49

were Samsung to move all

45:51

of its search capabilities

45:54

into the Microsoft being thing. They'd be sacrificing

45:57

a lot of other things in the process because that

45:59

agreement.

45:59

would be broken. Oh, but

46:02

the matter has changed by region. I think we talked

46:04

about, for example, India kind of making

46:07

Google have their own version. That's

46:09

right. Yes. So it is part, I mean, so actually

46:11

it might depend on the region. So

46:14

I think, I think it says Europe, obviously

46:17

Europe has been hitting at Google quite a bit. And

46:20

I think we did talk a bit ago about India

46:22

kind

46:23

of making them change the MADA

46:25

matter to make it a little more permissive

46:28

and more choice involved.

46:30

So there could be a, I

46:32

mean, I guess there could be an avenue there for

46:34

being to

46:36

butt in and maybe take a chunk out

46:38

of that 3 billion. So that's interesting. And

46:40

actually that kind of is interesting coalescence of both, you

46:43

know, individual countries hitting

46:45

back at Google and demanding changes to the

46:47

MADA for, you know, monopoly

46:49

competitive reasons. And then, you know,

46:52

this whole other can

46:54

of generated worms. Ooh,

46:56

that sounds very nasty. But, you

46:59

know, that is a very interesting time also in terms

47:01

of the competitiveness within the generative

47:04

AI space or sorry,

47:05

chat bots, chat bot, chat, g,

47:07

generative chat space. Yeah, yeah,

47:09

yeah, totally.

47:10

So that could be a really interesting kind

47:12

of like storm of a lot of different events

47:14

for Google. Just speculate EYUS, at

47:16

least in certain regions. I'm sure that,

47:18

yeah, us in the US are maybe not going to see much,

47:21

but yeah, I mean, Europe,

47:23

India and

47:25

other countries. I mean, these things, yeah, these

47:27

things are being unraveled and changed.

47:30

It's certainly, I mean, I

47:32

agree that it's probably,

47:35

you know, in light of this, this MADA

47:38

point, which I missed in my prep, in my prepping

47:41

for tonight's show. Certainly

47:44

that seems to put a pause on it.

47:47

I don't think that it eliminates the potential

47:49

threat of something like this long

47:52

term though. I think that really anything

47:54

can happen when you've got

47:57

all of these different countries.

47:59

really focused on in some

48:02

ways kind of dismantling the control

48:04

and power of companies like Google

48:06

over their products in

48:09

the way that's happening in the EU and India

48:11

and other places. So something

48:14

like this might not happen in the US, but I

48:16

don't know, I could see some massive

48:19

changes happening in the US that might

48:22

make something like this more possible,

48:24

something to consider. At

48:27

the same time, you know, having

48:29

just, I mean, today having a fresh experience

48:32

with the Bing chat

48:34

thing, it's

48:36

a pretty cool product to have

48:38

integrated into search to be able to

48:40

use, you know, your search

48:43

product in that way. So

48:46

if Google is working to bring its own

48:49

to its search product,

48:50

that just, you know, kind of somewhat tangentially

48:53

related to what we're talking about here. That

48:56

makes me really curious to see what's going

48:58

to happen on Android over the next year or

49:00

two, as this stuff starts to

49:02

get implemented first into search,

49:05

and then the potential of that getting implemented

49:07

on a deeper level into other aspects of

49:09

mobile computing. Yeah, for sure.

49:12

You know, more than AI already

49:14

is, which Google is very want to let you

49:16

know how great they are at AI

49:19

on mobile, you know?

49:20

Really, we really, really want you all to know,

49:23

like, seriously, we can chat

49:25

GPT too. Let me tell you about

49:27

Magi. Let me tell you. Yeah.

49:29

Oh my goodness. We're going to hear. Interesting. Yeah.

49:31

I mean, Google IO is going to be very,

49:34

I mean, not that it hasn't already been

49:36

filled with AI catchphrases

49:39

and terminology in the past handful

49:41

of years. This year, buckle your

49:44

seatbelt because I think they were going to go,

49:46

this is their opportunity

49:48

with that megaphone just to remind

49:50

everyone or to think that they're reminding everyone,

49:53

hey, we're the big dogs when it

49:56

comes to AI and here's all the things

49:58

we have planned. I think we're

49:59

going to see a lot of it. a lot of that at Google IO. That's

50:02

a really good point, because you could play a drinking game, a

50:04

really dangerous drinking game about machine learning

50:06

and Google IO announcements the last what,

50:08

four, many years,

50:10

so many years. And it's so funny because

50:13

I mean, I think it was always that

50:15

kind of aspirational in the future, sort

50:17

of slowly bubbling up into different features

50:19

like assistant or whatever. But now it

50:22

actually feels like they are actually being

50:24

directly challenged and really have their feet

50:26

to the fire

50:27

in terms of really showing something and

50:29

not just like,

50:30

you know, nice again, aspirational

50:33

like far thinking kind of things. Oh, look at this really

50:35

cute like Google, wait, look at Google Assistant. It's

50:38

talking like Jup, Pluto, it's role-playing,

50:40

it's cosplaying Pluto and answering questions. Now this is

50:42

like real, this is like real

50:45

like business impactful like future of,

50:47

you know, all of not just the space, but even

50:50

like

50:51

speculating, speculating, you know, the business of Google,

50:53

like how the business side of Google ends up. So anyway,

50:56

really fun stuff. I can't wait to see

50:58

that keynote.

50:59

Oh my God, it'll be fun. It'll be interesting.

51:01

It'll be fun. Looking forward to

51:03

it. One of my favorite features

51:06

in the last handful of years, and I guess

51:08

it's since Pixel 2, I've

51:10

talked about it plenty of times on the show before, is

51:12

the now playing features, the feature

51:14

that when you have it activated on your Pixel, it's

51:17

kind of like an ambient, it's

51:20

an ambient listening device that scoops up

51:22

all of your data. No, it doesn't scoop up all

51:24

of your data, but it does hear when there's music

51:27

in the room. And when it knows that there's

51:29

music playing in the room, it's able to quickly

51:31

fingerprint that music and go and log

51:34

it on your phone to say like, these are

51:36

the songs that just passively

51:38

played in areas that you

51:40

were with your phone. And I don't know, I

51:43

find that feature, like I don't use

51:45

it all the time, but when there is a song that's

51:47

playing that I'm like, oh, this is a good song. And

51:49

I look at my phone and it's just passively

51:53

letting me know on my lock screen

51:55

who that artist is and what the song is. And

51:58

I didn't have to do anything for

51:59

it other than pick up a song. my phone. It just

52:01

feels like magic when

52:03

it works out and that feature seems to

52:05

work really well.

52:07

And so I love it. They're

52:10

adding a new feature coming soon.

52:12

I don't know when this will happen, but it

52:15

looks like possibly Android 14 is going

52:17

to get some sort of an update to

52:19

now playing. It's an expanded

52:22

summary page. So you'll be able

52:24

to summon the summary page. It shows stats

52:26

on songs identified, categorizes

52:29

that information into

52:32

things like genre, artist, frequency,

52:35

at which time you heard certain songs.

52:37

If you go into

52:39

an artist, they'll tell you all the songs by that

52:42

artist that you have heard over time.

52:45

Just weird little things like that that me

52:47

as a music nerd,

52:49

I would appreciate features like that. Also,

52:52

when does your phone hear the most music?

52:54

Like when during the day

52:57

or are you around music

52:59

the most, that sort of stuff and having kind

53:01

of like a 30 day summary

53:03

of all this detail. So I don't

53:05

know. Sounds, you know, I can

53:07

totally understand how someone wouldn't

53:10

care less about

53:11

this sort of feature.

53:14

It's probably how I feel about like

53:16

sleep, you

53:18

know, sleeping data, like tracking my sleep.

53:20

Like I don't really care about that data, but

53:22

somebody does. They care a lot and

53:25

I care a lot about this. So

53:27

I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll

53:29

be fun. Although honestly, my, my

53:31

fun stats will be very boring the last two, three

53:34

weeks. I've been listening to the same song over and over and over again.

53:36

So it'll just be sad for me as like, girl, change

53:39

your like

53:40

insert music streaming service of choice

53:43

station, please. You've been listening

53:45

to Lewis Capaldi a lot, haven't

53:47

you? He

53:50

caught me at Jason. Actually, it's the new Darude.

53:55

I just saw the, I just saw the screenshot.

53:57

It's totally yours.

53:58

It was me. And also. I can't

54:00

get the disco. Let's go, uh-huh, I'm Paramore

54:03

and Marj, this is all you, isn't

54:05

it? Yeah, I love the seven-part smell. Yeah, totally, oopsies.

54:08

DJ's crying for help. DJ's

54:11

crying for help. Ah, ah, ah,

54:14

ah, ah. That is a great, now I'm gonna

54:16

look up that song. See, this is why this

54:19

was a very indirect way of figuring this, I need to look

54:21

up that song, because I gotta know what that song

54:22

is. Gotta know what that actually is. Oh, then being

54:25

a cry for help. All right, okay,

54:27

so, so

54:30

let me just say this, Google wants you

54:32

to uninstall Meet,

54:34

so you can use Meet. Oh yeah, that makes sense.

54:36

Yeah, it makes total sense. So in yet more

54:40

things are named very confusingly over

54:42

at Google, basically,

54:45

we talked last year about, or maybe

54:47

even the year before that, who knows anymore, about

54:49

how Google had Duo and Meet,

54:52

and then they were gonna merge

54:54

Duo and Meet, but then they were gonna still

54:56

call it Meet instead of, I don't know,

54:59

Du-mo, Meet-uo,

55:01

just anything else, just anything else other than

55:04

Meet. Meet Plus. Meet

55:06

Plus. Meet Plus.

55:09

The new apps called Meet, you still got the original

55:11

Meet, and now basically Google wants to

55:13

inform users that they should uninstall

55:17

the OG, the original Meet, and

55:19

get ready for a better Meet. Now

55:22

they are providing an

55:23

informative pop-up,

55:25

but yeah, it's

55:28

really confusing. We

55:31

gotta take advantage of these opportunities to

55:33

poke and rib Google

55:35

a little bit on its naming and its duplicate

55:38

apps and stuff. Is it the end of

55:40

the world? No, but

55:41

it's kind of silly. And

55:44

at the same time, I understand, they don't want

55:46

that old app around anymore. What are they gonna

55:48

do? But I don't know, it just, it

55:51

feels very Google is what it is, that's all I can say

55:53

about

55:53

that. Yes, yes, just, I

55:55

mean, so wait, I wasn't quite able

55:57

to parse this from the, so is this in the

55:59

old?

55:59

meat is a screen in the old meat or the new meat.

56:03

So is the old meat telling you to uninstall

56:05

it and then get the new one? Yeah.

56:07

Oh, that's so good. So

56:10

get it now that appears to be in the

56:12

old meat. Okay. So that's, that's

56:15

okay. I don't know.

56:18

It's so confusing. Get it now. For

56:21

best results, uninstall meat original.

56:24

Yeah. After the new

56:26

app, uh, the OG, you know,

56:29

get rid of the OG. Yeah.

56:30

I really want someone at Google

56:32

to push an update to the OG

56:35

meat and have like a big uninstall

56:37

me icon or just something like that.

56:40

Like, I mean, that's not, they would never do that because it's not very professional

56:42

and very kind of like little gross user

56:44

experience, but we can actually be better. Just be

56:46

like uninstall me. Uninstall

56:48

me. Just uninstall. Push here

56:50

to uninstall this app. You don't need any

56:52

more because you've got this one that has a

56:54

different name, not the same name.

56:56

You're welcome. Yes. Yeah.

56:59

They could have just done that. See, or just

57:01

picked another word. So many words.

57:04

There are

57:06

plenty of other words that you could have gone with, but

57:08

they just really like meat. Apparently they're

57:11

meat eaters and

57:13

wallets. They like meat and wallet.

57:16

Google. There's two things we know about Google.

57:18

They like their meat and they like their wallets.

57:22

That is true. I think you had a

57:24

meat wallet. That's gross. Okay.

57:26

Anyways. On

57:29

to our Android intelligence tip.

57:32

J. R. Ray feel has

57:35

even more. You thought you knew everything

57:37

about the YouTube for Android

57:40

app. You don't. There's more

57:42

to learn and J. R. is here to teach you.

57:44

Hey

57:46

team. Lovely to see everyone as

57:48

always. So we've been talking all things

57:50

YouTube for a couple of few

57:53

weeks now. We started out with some out

57:55

of sight settings worth digging

57:57

up and finding in the YouTube Android app and we moved

57:59

forward.

57:59

from there, some helpful hidden shortcuts

58:03

for splashing around all your favorite

58:05

virtual streams. Well,

58:07

today we're going to go in a slightly different direction

58:10

and we're going to dive into some privacy

58:12

safeguards, things that are in the YouTube

58:15

Android app and can really be helpful if you

58:17

ever want to go off the grid

58:19

and watch certain clips without having

58:21

them be remembered. Don't

58:24

worry, I won't ask for details.

58:27

So first things first, if you know you're going

58:29

to be watching something you'd rather not

58:32

have stored in your YouTube history,

58:34

where it'll always be visible

58:36

and then probably lead to endless recommendations

58:39

for other videos on that same subject too,

58:41

you can use YouTube's incognito

58:44

mode for Android to go off the record

58:46

and stop your activity from being recorded

58:49

for a while. Once you know where it is, it's actually

58:51

really easy to activate. So just tap your

58:53

profile photo in the upper right corner

58:55

of the app's main screen, then

58:57

tap turn on incognito

59:00

in the menu that comes up.

59:03

Anytime that mode is on, you won't see any

59:05

of your usual history, subscriptions,

59:07

recommendations, or anything like that, and

59:10

nothing you watch will remain associated

59:12

with your account in any way.

59:15

Whenever you're ready to turn incognito

59:17

mode back off and get to normal, just

59:19

tap your profile photo again

59:22

to find the option. Next,

59:24

if you want to keep your video watching activity

59:26

from being stored eternally as a general

59:28

rule, check out this buried YouTube

59:31

privacy treasure. Just tap your profile

59:33

picture in the upper right corner of the YouTube

59:35

Android app,

59:36

tap settings, and then tap

59:38

manage all history. Tap

59:41

the name of the Google account you're using, then

59:43

tap the line that says auto delete.

59:46

And hey, how about that? There where no

59:48

reasonably sane human would ever

59:51

venture lies an option to have

59:53

the app automatically eliminate all

59:55

your YouTube activity data

59:58

on a rolling 3 month 18.

59:59

month or 36 month cycle.

1:00:03

That way you can enjoy some of the conveniences that come

1:00:05

from having that history and all the associated

1:00:07

recommendations there without

1:00:09

having everything you do become a

1:00:11

permanent part of your Google account record.

1:00:14

Oh, and if you ever realize you've watched something you'd

1:00:17

rather not remember after the fact,

1:00:19

we'll take note that same

1:00:22

section of the YouTube settings also

1:00:24

lets you manually delete any individual

1:00:27

video views from your history. So

1:00:29

no more endless right

1:00:32

said Fred recommendations just

1:00:34

because you were feeling slightly sexy

1:00:37

on one random day. Last but

1:00:39

not least, a little known fact, by

1:00:41

default, YouTube actually makes lists

1:00:43

of every playlist you've

1:00:44

created and every channel you've

1:00:47

ever subscribed to public and

1:00:49

available for anyone to see. Which I

1:00:51

mean, hey, maybe that's OK by you or maybe

1:00:54

you're someone who doesn't want your secret

1:00:57

affection for the early works of Ace

1:00:59

of Base to be known to the world.

1:01:01

If you'd rather keep your most mortifying

1:01:04

tastes to yourself, you can make

1:01:06

your YouTube activity private by heading into

1:01:08

the settings area of the YouTube website

1:01:11

on a computer,

1:01:12

click privacy in the main left of screen

1:01:14

menu, then turn on the toggles

1:01:17

next to keep all my saved

1:01:19

playlists private

1:01:21

and keep all my subscriptions private.

1:01:24

Good to know, right?

1:01:25

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Next week, we'll wrap our little YouTube series

1:01:56

up with a look at some super helpful

1:01:58

advanced features.

1:01:59

that are lurking within

1:02:02

the YouTube Android app and completely

1:02:04

unbeknownst to most Android

1:02:07

appreciating animals.

1:02:09

For now, back to you, gang. Thank

1:02:12

you, JR. Thank you, too. Making

1:02:15

us all professionals in the YouTube for

1:02:17

Android app. I'm

1:02:20

amazed at how many

1:02:22

different places you have to go to

1:02:25

manage your data on services like

1:02:27

YouTube. Some of it's

1:02:29

over here, some of it's over there, some of it's

1:02:31

tucked away in this little corner over here.

1:02:34

You have to know that it's even there to

1:02:36

find it. I had no idea the subscriptions

1:02:38

were just made public by default. That's

1:02:41

interesting.

1:02:41

Yeah, I didn't

1:02:44

know either. And now

1:02:46

you know. Now I know, and now

1:02:48

I'm wondering, oh, dear. Oh,

1:02:51

my goodness. People

1:02:54

look at my subscriptions and be like, wow,

1:02:56

he follows a lot of music nerds.

1:03:01

He watches a lot of people make music.

1:03:04

Yeah, nothing

1:03:05

wrong with that. No, nothing wrong with

1:03:07

that. Good to know. Good to know, though.

1:03:10

Like, like I literally

1:03:12

don't know that I've ever realized that

1:03:15

that's how YouTube operated. That's kind

1:03:17

of important information, I think, for people to know. So there you go.

1:03:21

So you can control all of that. And thank

1:03:24

you, J.R. Rayfield, androidintel.net

1:03:27

slash twit.

1:03:30

All right. Coming up, your feedback,

1:03:32

that's up next. AAA

1:03:36

at twit.tv, 347 show AAA. When

1:03:40

you have the first one. I

1:03:42

do. And I have a email

1:03:44

from Dean. Dean

1:03:47

says, I skipped getting a Pixel 6 due

1:03:49

to reports of connectivity issues. But

1:03:51

now my Pixel 7 on T-Mobile is randomly

1:03:54

losing signal strength despite being

1:03:56

in a location with excellent coverage.

1:03:59

started about a month ago. I've tried

1:04:02

turning off 5G, resetting network

1:04:04

settings, replacing the SIM card, but

1:04:07

nothing seems to work. I was wondering

1:04:09

if it was T-Mobile,

1:04:10

but a friend's iPhone on T-Mobile has

1:04:12

stable connectivity. I opened

1:04:15

a case with Google support last week, but

1:04:17

I'm still waiting for a resolution. Have

1:04:19

you heard of recent issues with Pixel 7 connectivity?

1:04:22

Your insights would be greatly appreciated. Dean

1:04:24

from Thousand Oaks, California, viewer since

1:04:27

episode

1:04:28

one. Have you had any issues with connectivity

1:04:30

on your Pixel? I haven't

1:04:32

barely used it. No, that's true. You're

1:04:34

using the Z Fold. I do bring it with

1:04:36

me, but then it kind of acts as like a second banana

1:04:39

to whatever my other mobile activities are. So I

1:04:41

never really kind of push. I'm never

1:04:43

really on just mobile. I'm usually somewhere where I

1:04:45

have wifi. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.

1:04:48

I mean,

1:04:49

I haven't really noticed any connectivity.

1:04:51

I'm on Mint mobile. Are

1:04:54

they still a sponsor? Well, they

1:04:56

either are a sponsor or were a sponsor. I honestly

1:04:58

don't know off the top of my head, but Mint mobile

1:05:01

sponsor of the Twit network. I've

1:05:03

been using Mint for a couple of years and they're using

1:05:05

the T-Mobile and

1:05:08

they're an MVNO of T-Mobile. They're using

1:05:10

the T-Mobile network. I don't have

1:05:12

those issues with my Pixel. I mean, I did

1:05:14

some searching and came back with

1:05:16

a nine to five Google article

1:05:19

about

1:05:19

fixing your connection issues, which

1:05:22

really just says exactly what you said

1:05:24

as far as things to try. Primarily,

1:05:27

they recommend you reset your network

1:05:29

in settings or you restart your phone,

1:05:31

which there's not a whole lot of options

1:05:34

there. Yeah. I've had all these problems,

1:05:36

Jason. You have? Okay. With

1:05:38

my Pixel 6 when it came out and it seems

1:05:41

like it's all related to 5G.

1:05:43

Yeah, my husband is the same. And turn

1:05:45

off the scanning so that it just sits

1:05:48

on 4G and stays there and

1:05:50

doesn't do anything that it should just stick

1:05:54

to 4G.

1:05:55

Okay. Well, okay. Yeah.

1:05:57

My husband had the same problem while we were traveling.

1:05:59

And he was just like he

1:06:01

yeah, he's he believed it on 5g and

1:06:04

it was really funny because at that moment He had no internet

1:06:06

and I had no battery. So we were quite the pair Of

1:06:09

people traveling with our phones, but yes

1:06:13

Well, so the the

1:06:15

bummer then Dean as you know,

1:06:17

cuz you're yelling at us right now I'm sure is

1:06:20

that you've already tried turning off your 5g You've

1:06:23

already tried resetting your network settings,

1:06:25

which is what the 95 Google article

1:06:27

said You even replaced your sim

1:06:30

card, which none of us are talking about but that

1:06:32

seems like a pretty

1:06:33

drastic move right

1:06:37

And if that's not working

1:06:40

I'm starting to wonder if like your device

1:06:42

but I guess you you had these issues with this pixel 6

1:06:45

so I don't know I mean, it's it's impossible

1:06:47

for us to know exactly what's going on

1:06:49

But but I will say it seems

1:06:52

like there's a constant in the

1:06:54

fact that the 6 has

1:06:56

had connectivity issues The 7

1:06:59

it's obviously reported that the 7 has connectivity

1:07:01

issues Like maybe it's a

1:07:03

Google thing

1:07:05

And I don't know what that

1:07:07

means You know does that mean that you continue

1:07:09

giving Google a chance on their pixel devices

1:07:11

or do you try something else? That isn't gonna drop,

1:07:14

you know, I guess that's the choice you have to make

1:07:17

But yeah, I feel like it's More

1:07:20

prevalent maybe in areas where 4

1:07:23

and 5g aren't that You

1:07:26

know, maybe the network isn't that strong

1:07:28

strong We're kind of on the outer

1:07:31

limits of some of these networks here

1:07:33

in Petaluma at least I Definitely

1:07:35

am where I live there's like it's

1:07:37

super spotty and it's definitely not 5g

1:07:40

Well thousand Oaks is

1:07:42

I'm just saying around here at least I don't know

1:07:45

how thousand Oaks is Yeah, kind of a similar

1:07:47

geographic, you know, it's kind of it's like

1:07:50

built along a freeway and you know

1:07:53

Yeah thousand Oaks LA area Los

1:07:55

Angeles So,

1:07:58

yeah, I would I would think that LA would

1:08:01

have really great coverage throughout

1:08:03

but you know I guess it's definitely

1:08:06

on the outer outer outer outer is

1:08:08

it LA it's more like okay yeah

1:08:11

so I don't know

1:08:13

I don't know what the solution

1:08:15

is there but I feel your pain

1:08:18

Dean and I'm sorry

1:08:20

and I don't know what

1:08:22

else to say about that I

1:08:26

hope you figured out if you figured out let us know triple

1:08:28

a at what TV

1:08:30

Kyle from Tampa

1:08:32

Florida wrote in to say there was recently

1:08:35

a warning from the FBI warning about

1:08:37

juice jacking and to be

1:08:39

careful plugging your USB charger

1:08:41

into publicly available USB

1:08:44

charging stations these warnings

1:08:46

have been repeated on the twit network for years

1:08:48

shout out to security now but

1:08:51

my question is specifically about Android phones

1:08:53

years ago Android added a feature

1:08:55

on the phone to make a selection when plugging

1:08:58

in a USB charger to allow

1:09:00

charging only or data transfer

1:09:03

does this software feature make Android phones

1:09:06

safer or could a bad actor

1:09:08

still cause harm to your phone bypassing

1:09:11

this feature thanks

1:09:14

I mean my my assumption has been

1:09:16

that if I if the default

1:09:19

action on my phone when I plug into

1:09:21

USB which I believe it is is

1:09:24

to charge and not to pass data

1:09:26

that the data line is cut off

1:09:29

right the OS the system I'm trusting

1:09:33

that this that when the system says it's charging

1:09:35

it doesn't actually have any data

1:09:38

open I have to actually go into the

1:09:40

pull-down and select no data

1:09:43

transfer in order for that to kind of

1:09:45

that pipeline to open up

1:09:48

but I guess I

1:09:49

guess it's possible that data

1:09:51

would transfer through Burke you had the great

1:09:53

idea of just having a charging

1:09:56

cable that is charging only no data

1:09:59

possibility possible because it's just not

1:10:02

wired that way. Um, what

1:10:04

is this? Is it the port of power

1:10:07

blocker? So this is like a, like

1:10:09

a USB, uh, dongle

1:10:12

that you plug

1:10:14

into the device, the

1:10:16

charging station, let's just use that

1:10:18

as the example first, and then your

1:10:21

USB plug into that. And that

1:10:23

what that just cancels any sort of data,

1:10:25

uh, transfer possibility

1:10:28

whatsoever. It's just power. Yeah.

1:10:30

And you can see that there's only two pins

1:10:32

going to power only. That's what

1:10:34

this is.

1:10:35

I'm sorry. It doesn't that just say only data,

1:10:37

no power. It does

1:10:39

say maybe, maybe

1:10:41

not port of power. Wow.

1:10:47

No power can pass through at the, on

1:10:49

the about this item. That's

1:10:51

just funny. Oops. Uh, so no,

1:10:53

so power can I, okay. So that's the opposite

1:10:56

thing. That's no, no, don't get down on. Yeah.

1:10:59

Don't get that one. That's only give, uh,

1:11:01

only give data, not power, but they have

1:11:03

these, uh,

1:11:04

that put

1:11:08

this in there. Blame bar, huge thread earlier

1:11:11

today. Yeah.

1:11:12

But anyways, there are ways to strip

1:11:15

it out so that all it can do is

1:11:17

provide power. Um, and

1:11:19

you know, they're not going to be able to throw

1:11:21

data into your phone if they literally can't get

1:11:23

data through the wire to your phone. So

1:11:26

there's that. Um,

1:11:28

he's, he's, he

1:11:31

wants me to, to riff a little

1:11:33

bit longer. There

1:11:34

you go. Porta pow, pure

1:11:37

data blocker. So

1:11:40

what, what was the other one called a Porter?

1:11:42

What was it? Porta

1:11:44

pow, power blocker. Different thing. Yeah.

1:11:47

Yeah. Data blocker or power blocker. You want,

1:11:49

you want the data blocker. It's

1:11:52

called sure. So anyway, I guess, I

1:11:55

guess the point of your question is if it's,

1:11:57

you know, if it does that software

1:11:59

feature.

1:11:59

make your phone more secure. And

1:12:02

I'm,

1:12:03

I feel like yes, it does. But

1:12:06

like I was, I was asking around and

1:12:08

searching around for some sort of definitive,

1:12:11

like your phone can't get hacked

1:12:13

if it's just on a power

1:12:16

charging mode. And I couldn't really

1:12:18

find that. So I can't give you a definitive.

1:12:21

You're okay. But

1:12:22

I assume so, man, if not, like

1:12:25

make that a premium, like, like

1:12:27

a prime feature of Android 14. Cause

1:12:29

that kind of needs to happen, but I imagine

1:12:31

that's what the feature does already.

1:12:35

Yeah.

1:12:35

I hate to just like kind of carte

1:12:37

blanche, just say trust the OS because

1:12:39

sometimes you can't, but I, I don't know. Like

1:12:41

I think my instinct here is yeah, that should be okay.

1:12:44

But I mean, just watch me say that. And then someone

1:12:46

finds some, some nefarious way of like, right,

1:12:48

spoofing charging only mode, but I don't

1:12:50

know. It's, it's in the OS. So certainly,

1:12:52

I

1:12:53

mean, if it's not safe and there is a problem

1:12:56

somewhere, I know that's kind of an obvious statement, but like,

1:12:58

yeah, I don't.

1:12:59

I don't think it should be like

1:13:01

that. Yeah. I imagine

1:13:03

if this was a security feature that Google rolled

1:13:06

out and they're defaulting to charging only

1:13:08

on plugin. And we

1:13:10

all know that this, you know, juice jacking

1:13:13

threat, like it's a thing. It's,

1:13:16

it's not like some obscure, you know, threat

1:13:19

or anything. I have to, yeah,

1:13:21

I agree with you. I have to trust that Google,

1:13:23

when they implemented that

1:13:26

feature, did that with this sort of thing

1:13:29

in mind. So you don't

1:13:31

have to worry about it. So I think you're okay.

1:13:33

But, but there are ways to protect

1:13:35

yourself even further. And that is this like power

1:13:38

only dongle or cable. Yeah.

1:13:41

So anyways, there's some options

1:13:43

for you, Kyle. Hope that's helpful. When

1:13:48

you have the honors. Yes.

1:13:51

And it is now time for the email of the

1:13:54

week. Email

1:13:57

the week. Woo is from JC.

1:14:00

Hi, I've been an Android user since

1:14:03

the Samsung Galaxy S3, and

1:14:06

you guys have been my go-to podcast for

1:14:08

all things Android. Oh, thank you, Jaycee. Your

1:14:10

conversation in AAA625

1:14:13

about having AI such as chat GPT

1:14:16

being integrated in SwiftKey and Bard

1:14:18

in Gboard got me thinking. Personally,

1:14:21

as a Gboard user, I can't wait for Google

1:14:23

to integrate Bard in Gboard if it can understand

1:14:26

conversational context using

1:14:29

multiple languages. In

1:14:31

the Philippines, English is pretty much a first

1:14:33

language alongside our native dialects. It's

1:14:36

very common to seamlessly switch between

1:14:38

languages even in the same sentence in

1:14:40

normal conversation, both verbally or chat.

1:14:43

While Gboard does its best to suggest words,

1:14:45

more often than not, it autocorrects the word I want

1:14:47

to use with the one it thinks is correct, but

1:14:50

actually is not. This is especially true

1:14:52

in words such as and

1:14:54

in English, at English or

1:14:57

Tagalog, depending on the use. And I'm

1:15:00

not going to pronounce this right, Victor, you can

1:15:02

overdub me. And

1:15:04

thank you, Burke. Tagalog are

1:15:06

often used in the same conversation. I

1:15:08

would like to see AIs in keyboard apps that

1:15:11

are smart enough that can understand the context

1:15:13

of the conversation so they can

1:15:16

accurately autocorrect with the appropriate

1:15:18

words when it comes to mixed language conversations.

1:15:21

Thanks. Keep up the good work. And

1:15:25

JC, Salaamatpo

1:15:26

for your email.

1:15:28

And I'm actually really excited

1:15:30

about this email of the week.

1:15:35

Because I actually as a Vietnamese

1:15:38

American that is also learning Japanese

1:15:41

have run across this many, many times. We

1:15:43

just like the limitations. I mean, I don't

1:15:45

know, like I feel like a lot of folks that are bilingual

1:15:47

or live in a kind of multilingual

1:15:50

culture tend to do this, which

1:15:53

is to again

1:15:53

mix, you know, jump between languages

1:15:57

or just jump between languages. And

1:15:59

yeah, it is.

1:15:59

I have done that exact thing of being auto

1:16:02

corrected, or I

1:16:04

continue typing and not realizing that I switched to the wrong keyboard.

1:16:06

So I think that actually does, that would

1:16:08

be a really cool way of leveraging chat GPT

1:16:11

and kind of a learning language model to kind

1:16:13

of just be able to context switch,

1:16:14

because I just think

1:16:16

it'd be really cool. And it's a very common thing.

1:16:18

So hopefully there would be things for chat, for like, you

1:16:21

know, conversations for chat GPT

1:16:23

to learn from. So yeah, I don't

1:16:25

know.

1:16:25

I could totally see this happening, but

1:16:29

also we're kind of in this mode right now

1:16:31

where everything seems

1:16:33

possible with AI, but this seems like perfectly

1:16:35

fit to the strengths of AI

1:16:37

and

1:16:42

understanding context and everything that

1:16:44

we're seeing around AI as

1:16:48

has to do with language and

1:16:50

stuff. So I don't see how this would be very

1:16:52

complicated to integrate

1:16:55

compared to some of the other things that Google's already

1:16:57

done. And I'm sure that they're

1:16:59

working on. So yeah,

1:17:01

that's kind of

1:17:02

relates to what I was talking about earlier,

1:17:05

as far as like, you know, we've seen AI

1:17:07

on mobile so far, but

1:17:10

now in the past six months, we've seen some

1:17:12

really interesting new directions

1:17:15

that go much, much further

1:17:17

than we're used to seeing, you

1:17:19

know, with generative AI and chat

1:17:21

bots being actually smart

1:17:23

enough, you know, to use and

1:17:26

these sorts of things. So what is

1:17:28

the next couple of years like from

1:17:30

that new kind of paradigm of

1:17:32

artificial

1:17:32

intelligence? And I think things are

1:17:35

gonna get really interesting, could, you

1:17:37

know, continue to be the

1:17:39

real strong differentiator between

1:17:42

different mobile platforms and more

1:17:45

than they already have been to date. So

1:17:47

yeah, I think that

1:17:49

sounds like an amazing, amazing

1:17:52

thing to hope for, JC. It sounds

1:17:54

really, really useful.

1:17:56

Yeah, I would totally plus

1:17:59

one star.

1:17:59

upvote whatever you want to call it this feature.

1:18:02

And yeah, like,

1:18:05

absolutely. I mean, especially in

1:18:07

the US where we have all kinds of different languages,

1:18:09

bilingual situations, especially

1:18:11

like Spanish and English too. And yeah, anyway,

1:18:15

awesome idea. I hadn't even thought about that, but

1:18:17

heck yeah. I'm ready. I'm heck yeah.

1:18:20

All the way. Congratulations.

1:18:26

Good job, JC. And

1:18:28

with that, we have reached the

1:18:31

end of all about Android,

1:18:33

a wonderful show. I really enjoyed

1:18:36

just hanging out with you in tonight. So

1:18:38

thanks for, uh, yeah, thanks

1:18:40

for coming on tonight. It's a lot of fun.

1:18:43

It was great. I feel like we've been hosts

1:18:45

passing, passing through the night, the last

1:18:48

three weeks.

1:18:49

Yeah. Yeah. There's been

1:18:51

a lot of, a lot of, uh, yeah,

1:18:53

schedule mismatch and everything. So this

1:18:55

is really great. Um, what

1:18:58

do you want to leave people with? Actually, I

1:19:00

kind of know what you want to leave people with, but I want

1:19:02

you to set it up.

1:19:03

So I actually have content to like

1:19:05

link and like promo and all kinds of

1:19:07

stuff. So yes, I'm an Android developer that uses

1:19:09

Kotlin and I was at Kotlin Conf last week.

1:19:12

Uh, and not only that, I gave a talk,

1:19:15

which I have yet to link on, but, um,

1:19:17

something I've always kind of been a part of my

1:19:19

Android life. Uh, and now my Kotlin knife is kind

1:19:21

of interviewing other devs and just learning

1:19:24

about what they do, why they do what they

1:19:26

do, what they like about the technology, whether

1:19:28

that's Android or Kotlin. And I got the chance

1:19:30

to do this again at Kotlin Conf. Uh,

1:19:33

if you're interested, I mean, honestly, sometimes they're just really

1:19:35

great stories of what people are doing in tech,

1:19:38

regardless of whether, you know, you are

1:19:40

a Kotlin Knight like myself or not, but

1:19:42

yeah, it's called Kotlin Confer- Conversations.

1:19:45

Cause we had the Kotlin Conf and their conversations.

1:19:48

So yeah, uh, just check it out. Even if you just

1:19:50

want to see me like asking a bunch of very

1:19:52

smart people, silly questions. Um, people

1:19:55

are doing really, really cool things

1:19:57

with Kotlin and actually

1:19:59

take a bunch of Android people on. So there's

1:20:02

a lot of relevant conversations.

1:20:05

Folks using Android apps to kind of help, you

1:20:08

know, farmers in Kenya increase their

1:20:11

crop yields. People just doing

1:20:13

really cool stuff like that. So yeah, please, if

1:20:15

you're interested at all, check it out.

1:20:17

And I'll promo

1:20:19

other stuff when it comes out from Kotlin Conf,

1:20:21

but yeah. And you can find me at randomlytyping.com

1:20:25

otherwise.

1:20:25

Right on. Thank you, Wynn.

1:20:28

Congratulations on a very successful

1:20:31

conference, it sounds like. Yeah,

1:20:33

it's good to see you. Big

1:20:35

thanks to J.R. Rayfield, Android

1:20:38

Intelligence. That's androidintel.net

1:20:40

slash twit. You can find his

1:20:43

newsletter there. You should definitely subscribe

1:20:45

to that. Big thanks to

1:20:47

Burke here in the studio. Big

1:20:49

thanks to Victor at home,

1:20:52

behind the scenes. Both of them

1:20:54

working arm in

1:20:55

arm to

1:20:58

make sure that this podcast is flawless,

1:21:01

totally perfect, and without any

1:21:04

sort of errors whatsoever. And

1:21:08

yeah, no, actually we're all human doing the

1:21:10

best that we can. So you're gonna

1:21:12

get what you get. But they turn

1:21:14

around a pretty awesome product. So

1:21:17

we could do without you both. So thank you. You

1:21:20

can find me this week doing

1:21:23

a little bit more than normal. Actually last

1:21:25

Sunday

1:21:25

I hosted Twit. So

1:21:28

had a lot of fun filling in for Leo. He's

1:21:30

back on Twit this upcoming

1:21:32

Sunday, back from his vacation in a few days.

1:21:34

So you're gonna see him very soon. But while

1:21:36

he's out, you know, I did security now

1:21:39

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