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for Google I.O.
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Hello,
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and welcome to All About
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Android, your weekly source for latest news, hardware,
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and apps for the Android faithful. I'm Jason
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Howell.
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And I'm Gwyneth White-Dowdell. And
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Gwyn, it's great to see you. We
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have no third tonight. When
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we were kind of leading up to this show, I was like, Gwyn,
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you want to just do a show, you and I? I
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don't know that we have done that since you've come on
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as a full-time host. And
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I like these kinds of shows.
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Dynamic duo. That's
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right. Yes. That's right. First
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of all, I want to congratulate you. You had a
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big week. Tell us a little bit
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about your week. Just real quick, summarize,
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like why was it so big for a win? Well,
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I was at Kotlin Conf, 2023, the first
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Kotlin Conf in like four years. And yes, we,
2:15
it was all about Kotlin. It's thrown by the company
2:17
that makes Kotlin jet brains. And I was very busy.
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I gave a technical talk.
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I did eight interviews, uh, with
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other speakers at the conference and I was in the closing panel.
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Um, and yeah, it was huge. I was very busy,
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but it was really great. Um, and yeah, Kotlin
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rules. And I got to just think about Kotlin for two
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days straight and it was, that's not a bad thing. That's
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a great thing.
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I mean, ladies and gentlemen,
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fans of this show should know that when
2:40
was doing a talk and could
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have been upwards of a thousand people in the room.
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And I just think of a thousand people all
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there to geek out about Kotlin. That's
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pretty awesome. You, you had your,
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I mean, that that's your crowd, right? The
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right people listening to the right person.
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It was, and I, I brought the energy with
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two and a half hours of sleep because that's generally what happens
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before I give a talk. I just can't stop practicing
3:05
it. Two and a half hours of sleep. I
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brought the energy and I brought the energy
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some more. And yeah, I mean, that's what
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common. You crashed. I
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did eventually. Yes. Two days later. Yes.
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I might still be kind of like crashing a little, just
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kind of more like, uh, like, like a leaf
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kind of falling to the ground, but I have
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enough energy for the lovely Android
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faithful.
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Oh, good. Because
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you're, you're bringing the energy. I'm
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bringing the news. Cause holy moly, we've
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got some news to talk about. Now, last week
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on the show, when you missed last week,
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um, cause obviously you were where
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you were just told us all about, um, we
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had no hardware news. If there was
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hardware news, I didn't include it because
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we had enough news news
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and then some app news to fill the
3:52
entire show this week. We got some hardware
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news. And so, you know, just
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buckle up for that. We got news of all
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different types.
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We're truly putting the latest news
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hardware and apps into this episode
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for the Android faithful. So why don't we get right into
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it with the news? Take
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us there, Burke.
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Wow, you really, the pressure.
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Yeah. We're going to
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talk about stuff that Michelle finds.
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We're going to talk about things.
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Okay. That works, Burke. You did good.
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Even with all that pressure. Uh,
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when you, you were not on last week, so
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you get the top story.
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Woo. And the top story is
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very much informed by our very own
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Michelle Ramon, who has a mega thread
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of everything that's new in Android 14 beta one.
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There is a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot
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of stuff. And as usual, you should
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go back to the source and check out Michelle's thread
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on Twitter, but we'll
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cut, we'll cap some of our favorite, our
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little bit of our favorites in this Android 14
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beta one. Uh, there's
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a lot of, there's a lot of pin presies
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for your pins, print, pin, pin perks, a
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lot of pin perks. So pin
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perks. So in Android 14,
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you'll actually be able to have
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something called pin privacy, toggleable
5:13
that basically disables animations while entering
5:15
your pin. So if you've got any kind of shoulder
5:17
surfers, kind of just looking, looking
5:19
to steal, you know, your little, uh,
5:21
yeah, gestures or just try to
5:23
like, otherwise for nefarious means,
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still your pin. That is an option you can disable
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animations, which I think it's actually really awesome.
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Yeah. I've actually wondered about this when
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I enter in my pin, it does
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have those little splooshy animations and
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stuff. Well, you know, that, that just
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calls more attention to the thing that's actually
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being pressed. Anyway, that you can
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obscure that is probably a good thing. So I
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like that. Yes.
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Yes. In app development, we generally like feedback
5:49
when a user does something, but maybe if it's your pin
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or other sensitive information, maybe you can do without
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it. Yeah. In another,
5:56
in other pin perks, Android 14
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may soon be supporting.
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the, well actually is
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also, so also in 14 is the new
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auto confirm correct pin, which
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basically is just any kind of pin
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prompt
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on a piece, like these,
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the, the, the pin prompt perk will,
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will basically auto confirm your
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correct. If you enter in a correct pin, it will just automatically
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go ahead, go forward instead of you having to hit enter.
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Although and I know we've talked about this before that
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while this is very convenient, you
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know, it's, it may not necessarily be
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the best thing in terms of, you know, negating,
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you know, nefarious nefarious
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folks who are looking to break into your phone.
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So along with the auto confirm correct
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pin, there is a message saying, Hey, would you like,
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or maybe you should think about having a six digit
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pin because it is safer. But
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anyway, if you want to
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just get a little bit of extra time
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back in your day by not pressing the enter button for your
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tent, you can get that with auto confirm
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pin. Like of all the second,
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the second you will save in every day. Yeah,
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yeah,
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for sure. These, um, let's
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see. I really liked this one. Uh,
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Android 14 is expanding support for physical keyboards.
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Uh, this also includes by the way,
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um, kind of remapping because obviously
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keyboards, one thing that, that is that
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can be very, uh, P I T A with physical
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keyboards is where the modifier keys go. Cause they
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can get a layout so you can actually map them.
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There might be support for backlit keyboard
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controls. I can throw in that backlight from Android
7:31
as an led like fan. Um,
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I like, I like that a lot.
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Um, obviously those features
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potentially come in really handy as Google
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nears the release of its tablet. And
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I'm imagining with its tablet will
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have some sort of like keyboard
7:47
attachment thingy. Although
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I don't know that we've seen any leaks as far as that's
7:51
concerned. Our pixel leak segment is later
7:54
in the show, but, um, I have to imagine
7:56
features like this, you know, it's kind of like, kind
7:58
of like the foldables and everything.
7:59
you know, making sure that we've got the foldable
8:02
part of the OS all tight. And then sure
8:04
enough, we've got the pixel fold coming
8:06
down the pipeline as well. So I'm
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sure they're related.
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Yeah, for sure. These kind of
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lining up, lining up the shot, lining
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up the putt putt or whatever
8:16
for large screen devices like both golf
8:19
analogies work. I
8:21
don't know golf. My husband's a golfer. I just kind
8:23
of like, just like parrot what
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he says and hope it's done. Punts
8:27
sure. That's a golf. What sport is that?
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Yeah. Oh yeah. That's totally a golf term
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Burke pun. I got confused for a
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second. See, no, we can't do that.
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We can't do that. As we keep sports off
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the show, I'm thinking, I'm
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a very
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stereotypical engineer. Uh, let's see
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what else we got. We also get, okay, this
8:45
is, this is ostensibly not a huge deal, but you,
8:48
there is a new weather toggle
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that allows you to kind of toggle the weather display
8:52
on the lock screen. Now this kind
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of like what NBD, right? But, um,
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Michelle didn't speculate, uh, back in March
8:59
that this might be, you know, due to
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new lock screen customization options. So it might be
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kind of just, you know, the first feature
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in a cavalcade of lock screen optimization
9:08
features. So I don't know. Also just options
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are good. Options are good. Uh,
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did I miss anything Jason? I think,
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I think those are like some of the big hits from here.
9:18
There's a lot of really small things, like a
9:20
lot of like little UI adjustments. A
9:22
lot of dialogues have like updated, you know,
9:25
um, wording to be a little more clear. But
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I think for Android 14 beta one, those are my favorite.
9:30
Th those are a few of my favorite
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things.
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Well, yes. So
9:36
you got those Michelle, um,
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he's been busy. I mean, he, he, he also
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wrote for XDA about,
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uh, this location based suggestion
9:46
for Google wallet, which is actually kind of funny
9:48
because like Google wallet used
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to have that, and then there's the new Google
9:53
wallet or G pay or whatever they call it
9:55
nowadays, and it didn't have it. And now
9:57
they're bringing it back again. So, you know,
9:59
you're getting the.
9:59
that you once had all over again.
10:02
Yes, I like that because it's really confusing because,
10:04
and this might actually be kind
10:06
of a spoiler for later, but yes, before
10:09
in the previous Google Wallet, not
10:11
to be confused with the current Google Wallet, whenever
10:14
you say you had, you were in your
10:16
location where you had a loyalty card, but
10:18
a little suggestion would pop up and say, hey, you have a loyalty
10:20
card here, would you like to use it? And of course, that
10:23
is not quite available in the current Google Wallet, but
10:26
Michelle found some very interesting
10:29
values within the developer
10:31
documentation
10:31
that said something about Google
10:33
Wallet, feature-based location-based
10:36
suggestions, rather. And
10:39
so maybe you might be getting a new
10:41
feature in Google Wallet that was
10:43
an old feature in
10:44
Google Wallet. Oh,
10:47
what's old is new again. What's
10:49
old is new. And okay,
10:51
just to top it off, because we got a... Oh.
10:56
Thank you, Google. Thank you for being so helpful. I
10:59
need to set a reminder to... We appreciate
11:01
your input, Google. God, still talking. Okay,
11:04
and then in more
11:06
safety, safety features, there is
11:09
a change upcoming in Android 14 that
11:11
will improve security with
11:14
regard to two-factor authentication. So previously,
11:16
prior to 14, if you had, again, nefarious
11:20
folks writing malware
11:22
apps, they could actually use accessibility
11:25
services, which kind of provide
11:27
third-party apps the ability to read the contents
11:29
of the screen and then be able to kind of perform
11:31
inputs in the back of the user. Well,
11:33
obviously, if you let a third-party app read
11:36
the screen, that means it could read things
11:38
like, oh, I don't know, like your Google Authenticator
11:40
and other apps that generate
11:41
the code. Yeah, bad news. Bad
11:43
news, not great. So in Android 14,
11:46
to lock this down, developers can
11:48
actually prevent
11:50
non-accessibility tools from interacting with their
11:52
app. So if I am on Google Authenticator or
11:54
some other 2f8 token app, I
11:57
can say, no, thank you to letting non-accessibility...
11:59
So things like
12:02
that are actually accessibility apps like
12:04
TalkBack will still be able to access it, but
12:07
any old third-party app that is trying to access
12:09
accessibility services will be a no-go if,
12:13
again, if you're a developer of a kind
12:15
of sensitive information app and you say, no, thank you. So
12:18
there's still a lot of room there for accessibility with TalkBack,
12:21
and there's still a lot of developer choice in
12:23
there, but it is kind of plug-in
12:26
of
12:27
fairly serious hoe in terms
12:30
of 2FA and security. So, I
12:32
mean, Michelle's a busy dude, but that's a lot
12:34
of really great and interesting news
12:36
around Android 14. When
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Android 14 beta 1 was announced
12:42
and released last Wednesday, so six days from now, because
12:44
it seems so often that that's the case.
12:47
We're right now talking about news
12:49
that's almost literally a week old, but
12:51
that's okay. We got to talk about
12:53
it sometime, and our show just happens to be on
12:55
Tuesday. Now that we're in
12:57
the beta realm and not developer
12:59
preview, does that lure
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you in when the developer?
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It really does,
13:06
especially with kind of IO around the corner. Not
13:08
that it necessarily are things related, but I think beta
13:11
is when I really start thinking, okay, I need to adopt
13:13
this. I need to put it on my phone,
13:16
see if my app breaks. Also, I
13:18
think it's starting to, the features that
13:20
are in it are sort of crystallized, and so as a
13:22
developer and as an end user, yeah, I
13:25
want to know what's coming. I want to know what's coming and
13:27
if there's anything, any goodies that I need to take
13:29
advantage of. So, yeah, beta 1, it's a
13:31
good time. It's a good time to get in on it. Well,
13:33
we've been talking about Michelle
13:35
already so much on this episode, and
13:37
there's more, because this isn't, I
13:39
don't think, related specifically
13:42
to Android 14, or if it is,
13:44
Android police certainly didn't
13:46
mention it by name slash number,
13:49
but Michelle has
13:51
shared something about Bluetooth
13:54
on Android. It points to a recent patch
13:56
to the AOSP repository that implements
13:58
super- wideband
14:01
speed. This is related
14:03
to features in Bluetooth's hand-free
14:05
profile version 1.9. His
14:08
assumption is that it, and
14:10
I quote, enables even higher
14:13
quality voice transmission over Bluetooth
14:15
hands-free profile to
14:18
upgrade Android to super wideband
14:20
and use a relatively new LC3
14:24
codec. What does this all mean?
14:26
It basically means near full band reproduction.
14:30
It's also an increase in sample
14:32
rate from 16 to 32 kilohertz.
14:35
So it's basically a big leap in quality
14:38
from network to network. Of
14:40
course, the tricky thing there is
14:43
the hardware also has to support that,
14:45
but it's nice to know that the
14:48
underlying OS would
14:50
support that to begin with. That's where all
14:52
this stuff starts after all. So
14:56
better quality Bluetooth calls
14:58
coming to you. Not as
15:01
fuzzy, depending on the device that you're using,
15:03
if it supports this, could sound
15:05
really, really good.
15:08
Not bad. 32 kilohertz. 32 kilohertz. That's
15:10
my kind of kilohertz.
15:12
Those are my kind of kilohertz.
15:15
I like the little subtle pun there. Sounds good.
15:18
Sounds good. Sounds good to me.
15:20
Does it sound good to you? And if not, you've
15:22
spent too much time in front of loudspeakers.
15:28
So thank you, Michelle, for keeping us busy.
15:31
Yeah. And to round things off, we have a little
15:33
Android 13 news just to kind of like
15:36
swing back to our dear friend, Android 13. It seems
15:39
that, who's that?
15:41
Oh man. Oh, we forgot
15:42
about you. Sorry, Android 13.
15:45
You're cool. Part of the Android version,
15:48
right? You get released and all sudden
15:50
people are just talking about the next new thing.
15:52
Yeah, totally. I know. It's got to be
15:54
hard. Well, we
15:56
have some good news. So I mean, good news for Android 13.
15:59
So Android 13.
15:59
actually doubled
16:02
its market share since January. So in January,
16:04
Android 13 was on 5% of global devices. In
16:09
April, it has reached more than 12%. So
16:12
this came, this comes from nine to five Google. And
16:14
if you compare this jump with,
16:17
you
16:17
know, Android 12, Android 12
16:19
sat at 13.3% adoption one whole year after
16:23
it was launched. And so this seems to indicate,
16:25
I mean, I mean, I guess there is a small chance
16:28
that it'll just sit at 12% for the rest of the year, but
16:30
very unlikely. So this does seem
16:32
that there has been a much quicker
16:34
adoption of Android 13 compared
16:37
to Android 12. Nine to five Google
16:39
kind of gives big props to Samsung for
16:42
this, regarding both its market share
16:44
impact as well as quick updates that
16:46
it has been kind of like trying
16:47
to keep up with and
16:49
also kind of noting, you know, other folks like
16:51
OnePlus, Oppo, Realme, which are
16:54
very related companies, being
16:57
quick to update to Android 13 as well. So
16:59
hopefully this is just a trend
17:02
of, you know, manufacturers OEMs
17:04
just being a little bit quicker on the updates
17:06
and getting everybody to the latest sooner rather
17:09
than later.
17:09
I certainly hope so. I
17:11
certainly hope so. That's, you
17:14
know, Android 13, we really
17:17
neglected you recently. We got so
17:19
excited about Android 14. You've got a lot to
17:21
give. Apparently you are
17:23
really popular and that's a good thing. So.
17:26
Despite being an unlucky number. Yeah,
17:28
that's true. Not that that
17:31
should matter. That's probably part of the reason
17:33
why we didn't, you know, want to really focus
17:35
much time on you because no one likes
17:37
unlucky numbers.
17:39
But that's pretty positive.
17:41
I mean, that seems, I mean, again, we're still
17:44
talking about a half a year after it's released
17:47
and we're at 12%, but
17:49
I mean, I don't know at what point
17:52
if ever we can expect
17:54
more than that. As we've talked
17:56
about many times on the show, there will
17:58
only ever be.
18:00
More and more devices not less and
18:02
less devices to update. Yeah, so I mean
18:04
the challenges is real for Google So
18:07
to make that kind of progress considering how many
18:09
devices are out there There's
18:11
actually a pretty big deal. So that's worth
18:13
applauding. I think
18:15
Good stuff there.
18:18
All right, so we are gonna
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18:22
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20:34
And now it's time
20:36
for hardware because
20:40
I tried something
20:42
this week. And I don't know how I feel about
20:44
it, but I know that it was kind of useful.
20:47
So I'm ashamed to know that it
20:49
was useful. So
20:52
first of all, what is the news? The news that
20:55
we'll start with anyways is
20:57
the ASUS ROG ROG
21:00
phone. Again, every time the ROG
21:02
comes up, I always want to say ROG, but it's ROG,
21:04
isn't it? The ASUS ROG Phone 7.
21:08
It's the newest gaming phone. And,
21:11
you know, this is always the
21:13
gaming phone to beat as far
21:16
as gaming phones are concerned. Like these are always
21:18
top tier. Android Police
21:20
actually gave the ROG Phone 7
21:23
Ultimate a nine and a half out of 10. It
21:26
has the RGB lighting on
21:28
the back. It has an LED
21:31
mini display on the back. As you can see that
21:33
little swirly swirl thing there. It
21:36
has capacitive shoulder buttons,
21:39
a bright, sharp AMOLED display
21:42
on the front. The other display,
21:43
not the little one that we're looking at. It does
21:46
have the same design as last year's model,
21:48
but, you know, if it ain't broke,
21:51
don't fix it.
21:52
But when I was
21:55
kind of getting ready to do this, I was like, you know,
21:58
I love talking about hardware.
21:59
sometimes like pulling the specs
22:02
from a million different articles, sometimes it's
22:04
just like not fun, just to give
22:06
you a little peek behind the scenes. So
22:08
I was like, what about using
22:11
chat GPT to give me a spec
22:13
rundown? Maybe it can help me.
22:16
And so of course I opened up chat
22:18
GPT and it told me immediately, my data is
22:20
from da da da da da, I don't have
22:22
anything, you know, any news on this. And I was like,
22:24
okay, well then I'll use Bing. So I opened
22:26
up Bing and plugged it in
22:29
and I got to say,
22:31
it did a pretty darn good job of summarizing
22:33
this phone. And you know, it gives you the kind of references
22:37
to where it pulls each piece of information. You
22:39
know, it was running Android 13, Snapdragon 8
22:41
Gen 2, 6.78 inches
22:44
display, that
22:47
AMOLED that I was telling you about, very bright
22:49
AMOLED, up to 16 gigs of RAM,
22:53
512 gig UFS 4.0 storage, has
22:57
a triple camera array, 6,000 milliamp
23:00
hour
23:01
battery. So this thing's meant to kind of
23:03
run
23:04
for a long time, you
23:06
know, with a lot of power, these gaming phones
23:09
are thrown around. So you want your device to last
23:11
for a while. And right
23:13
now, not a US release,
23:16
but at least they aren't talking
23:18
about that anyways. I even had the
23:21
Bing chat GPT, whatever you want
23:23
to call it, convert from
23:25
a 74,999 rubies, rubles,
23:29
rubles, rubies, rubies? It's
23:31
rupees. Rupees. Am
23:33
I thinking of video game currency? Yeah,
23:35
you are. Yeah. Is
23:38
that, wait a minute, is that? It's a medically resident,
23:41
it's okay. It's a medically resident.
23:43
You were just in the gaming mode. Was that,
23:46
now I want to know what that's from. Is that from Legend
23:48
of Zelda? I was thinking,
23:50
I had Zelda pop in my head.
23:52
I think it's Zelda. I think I just quoted
23:54
the price of this phone in Zelda currency.
23:57
If you want to buy an in-game ASUS,
23:59
our ROG phone in the upcoming Zelda
24:02
game, it'll cost you this
24:04
many. This many rupees. Sorry
24:08
about that. Anyways, converted
24:10
it's $913 for the ROG phone 7. The 7
24:16
ultimate converted would be around $1,218. So
24:21
I don't know what the US cost is
24:23
going to be on this. When
24:25
it does come to the US, it will eventually.
24:28
We're talking, you know, this is a premium,
24:30
premium smartphone as we've come to expect
24:34
from this gaming, gaming
24:36
category. And especially, you know, the ROG
24:38
phones are always top tier. So I
24:41
don't know. Should I feel bad about, about
24:44
roping in some AI for, for
24:46
stats?
24:47
No, I like it. I mean, usually with the article
24:50
we're like combing through because everyone
24:53
likes to always, you know, obviously tell a story
24:55
and kind of give a lot of detail, but then,
24:56
you know, right. I know.
24:59
I love it. It actually kind of was very well
25:01
formatted. I know. I was pretty impressed.
25:03
I was really impressed. I was like, Oh wow, this is great.
25:07
Now I feel like I'm cheating. I was like, I was like,
25:09
if there's something that this thing can get right, it would
25:12
be this. What's
25:14
that Burke? Say note to self. Use
25:16
chatty deep GPT. Yeah.
25:19
Although Lee Woods in discord
25:21
has a really great question. He says, do you not
25:24
have access to Google Bard? Bard
25:27
launched while I was gone and I
25:30
am sad to say I have not used it yet.
25:32
Um, since I've come back, I've been
25:34
pretty busy. I've been filling in for Leo while
25:37
he's been out. Bard had something to say
25:39
about me.
25:40
Oh yeah. It was not accurate.
25:42
Oh, well, I think that was Bard. It
25:45
was saying that I was a host of something.
25:48
Oh, was that Bard? Because I think
25:50
it was, or was that Bard? Well, chat GPT
25:53
in the discord said that about
25:56
Jammer B about John also. Yeah,
25:59
that one was a little bit. more specific
26:02
wrong, but mine was along the same lines
26:04
as wrong. So I think these all, you know,
26:06
take them with a grain of salt. I figured it was
26:09
like, you know, be really hard to
26:11
get these exact specifications
26:14
wrong, right? Like this, yeah, almost,
26:16
almost certainly many articles are going to refer
26:19
to the fact that this phone is running Android 13.
26:21
So how, if an AI got that
26:23
wrong, I'd be like, I'd be really questioning
26:26
it, uh, more than I do already. But,
26:28
um, so yeah, it seemed like an
26:30
okay way to go. And I think you're right when
26:33
we, we also kind of formulate
26:35
or create a story around that,
26:37
that when we're talking about new hardware,
26:39
it's not
26:40
anymore. It's not about specs entirely.
26:43
It's about like the, you know, w w who
26:45
is this phone for not all phones are
26:47
made for all people. This one's very easy to target.
26:50
It's a gaming phone, you know, or it's
26:53
a phone for someone who wants
26:55
a high performing device could not
26:57
be gaming, but it looks, you
26:59
know, unique. It performs very
27:02
well. So there you go. That's
27:05
the ASUS ROG phone seven.
27:09
I love it. I will say that I think this is kind of the
27:11
perfect, um, and I think this is like
27:13
the ideal use case for, uh, chat
27:15
bot or chat GPT and the like, where,
27:18
I mean, obviously we still need to talk about this.
27:20
Uh, it's, you know, the, the job here is to kind of talk
27:22
about it and can make connections and participate
27:25
until I'm using anecdotes that are related. But
27:27
you know, the kind of like raw data parsing,
27:29
uh, that requires some, you know, English,
27:32
like natural language processing,
27:33
um, makes sense. I
27:35
don't know. I kind of like it for this. Like it's just like data,
27:39
hard data harvesting sounds nefarious.
27:41
Data organization organization. Data
27:47
collection. No, it's
27:50
all sounds bad. Boy. Yeah. It's regurgitation
27:54
regurgitation. Oh, that sounds good. Lovely.
27:59
in an innocent light that everybody
28:02
can... In its best case, it's reformatted
28:04
into a palatable... Yeah, reformatable data
28:06
reformatting. Yeah, there you go.
28:09
I can get behind that one. Well,
28:11
I hope you like it, Wen, because this next device
28:14
was also collected via chat
28:16
GPT and Bing.
28:18
I did like it, and I like
28:20
this phone. So
28:23
I have gotten very, very, very excited
28:26
in the kind of vicarious way about all the phones
28:28
that have that Sony huge
28:31
one-inch INX989 sensor. For
28:35
sure, the Xiaomi had it, and now
28:37
the Xiaomi 13 Ultra is here, and
28:39
it has it, the big one-inch Sony
28:42
sensor that I can't get my hands on because I'm a resident
28:44
of the US and they're not available here. And
28:47
unlike its predecessor,
28:48
this Xiaomi 13 Ultra has
28:50
not one, not two, not three,
28:52
but four lenses. Wow. Wow.
28:56
For lenses. Yes, and the
28:58
sensor also has 23 millimeter... Sorry,
29:04
optical image stabilization and a
29:07
variable aperture tangle. So
29:09
you can change the aperture from between F1-9 all
29:13
the way to F4. So
29:16
if you want to get cinematic and
29:18
kind of get all cinematography...
29:19
I like that. I
29:25
love that too because that's kind of obviously a tool
29:28
in the photographer
29:29
and videographer's toolkit,
29:32
toolbag, tool belt, utility
29:34
belt. And it's really funny
29:36
because we were kind of in an age where people
29:38
are very purposefully
29:41
using phones for professional
29:45
photography and videography, or at least experimenting
29:47
with it. So this only just makes sense. I love it.
29:50
Okay, so here's to the Bing Chat GPT
29:52
spec list, which again, I found very helpful.
29:55
So it's got a 6.73 inches.
29:59
display 120 Hertz refresh
30:02
rate it is running Android 13
30:05
with the you know personal Xiaomi flavor
30:08
of me UI 14
30:11
rocking the snapdragon 8gen 2 processor
30:13
up to 16 gigabytes of RAM I mean these
30:15
phones are rockin's just so much RAM oh my
30:17
goodness 16 gigabytes did
30:19
I say that right
30:20
gigabytes yeah up to 512 gigabytes of
30:24
storage oh my goodness and
30:26
yeah selfie cameras 32 megapixels but
30:29
yeah you got the 50 megapixel Y 50 megapixel
30:31
ultra wide 50 megapixel zoom and 50
30:34
megapixel telephoto in that very gorgeous
30:36
Leica branded camera bump in the back
30:38
you're living a megapixel life
30:41
it is 50 50 50 50 yeah is there a song or
30:45
something like about that anyway um
30:48
could be it or the Xiaomi 13
30:50
ultra is already available for pre-order in
30:52
China starting from 6,000 UN
30:55
which is around 870 bucks
30:58
us all the way up to
31:00
the you know slam bang in 16 gigabyte
31:03
RAM one terabyte storage option for 7300
31:06
UN which is around a thousand 60
31:08
USD but you
31:10
know we're not
31:11
gonna get it in USD or in the US
31:13
any otherwise so just something
31:15
else for me to drill over with a one-inch
31:17
you know Sony sensor maybe one day I'll get
31:20
my hands on one but
31:22
yeah I mean really cool phone
31:24
and really cool to see what is out there
31:26
and if anybody gets their hands on it and wants to
31:29
make wind jealous by writing a you know
31:31
letting me know how awesome that
31:33
is that variable
31:36
aperture that's a cool idea
31:38
oh it is really cool I wonder how how
31:41
you change the aperture whether it's a software feature where
31:43
they did I miss that is there like
31:45
a yeah
31:46
I didn't see I didn't see like
31:48
how exactly that was that
31:51
was switched I guess
31:53
it wouldn't really make sense for it to be a hardware like
31:55
ring or something maybe it's just like it's in software I guess
31:58
so yeah or either way Or
32:00
is it one of those systems where it determines,
32:03
you know, it kind of reminds me of the variable
32:05
display refresh
32:08
and some of those systems, you don't necessarily
32:10
have direct control over. It's
32:14
smart enough to go, oh, well, this is
32:16
a monochromatic, you know, view, or
32:19
there's, you know, this is black text
32:21
on white background. We'll give you
32:23
one Hertz refresh on this. Oh,
32:25
this is a full, you know, HD video.
32:28
We give you the maximum
32:29
refresh rate. So I wonder if
32:32
this is the same thing, like if it
32:34
determines what kind of aperture
32:37
setting you need based on the setting,
32:40
the scene that you're setting up.
32:42
Yeah, it could be. That
32:44
would make it easier. You know, it's smarter
32:46
than you. Don't worry, I got it. I
32:49
mean, yeah, that's kind of easy to be, but yeah, for sure
32:51
as you... Not you, I'm not, but
32:53
not to you, but just the user,
32:55
you know, these systems are always trying to be smarter
32:57
than you. Like, you don't need to
33:00
worry about that. I got you. And
33:02
sometimes that works really great. Sometimes it doesn't.
33:05
So.
33:06
It just, it just asks chat GBT what the best
33:08
aperture for this particular scene would be. Oh. And
33:11
then just parses that. And then just, I don't
33:13
know, that could be it. Yeah. Well,
33:18
so that is the Xiaomi 13 Ultra. Another
33:22
phone that we probably will not get in our hands
33:24
here because we never get the Xiaomi phones,
33:26
but still, yeah. I
33:29
like the big circular camera
33:31
bump thing that's going on. It looks, it
33:34
just takes me back to digital camera
33:38
pre-smartphone era, where
33:40
we had little digital cameras that we carried around.
33:43
Kind of looks like that. And there is a really
33:45
cool case. I think Burke had it up before.
33:47
There's a cool little case that actually makes it feel
33:49
like a digital camera because it has like the little handle
33:51
bump kind
33:52
of, Oh yeah. of the case. So
33:55
yes. There you go. There it is.
33:57
There we go. Oh, does it have, you never shuttered? Yeah,
34:01
well and it looked like it had a lens
34:03
like Then
34:05
screw Thing
34:11
it's
34:12
a ring a ring a Lens
34:18
screw thing ring
34:22
I
34:24
doubt that's a Thing
34:31
that shield it from flare, right?
34:37
Okay,
34:40
we're okay still it looks
34:42
more like a regular camera that way
34:44
yes, that's what we like We're
34:47
very easy to please It's got
34:49
a shutter filter thread says Victor
34:52
Sure, that sounds that sounds right that sounds
34:54
legit to me victory. Well that is a legit
34:56
thing on a camera. I agree. Okay
34:59
Yeah, sure. I just you can't be gonna put
35:02
filters over those Trust
35:04
us everyone. We know what we're talking about
35:07
This
35:10
next story won't be difficult to get wrong
35:12
because none of this is fact
35:15
It's all
35:17
leaks So if it's wrong
35:20
blame the leak, I don't know but John
35:22
Prosser is He's got a
35:24
pretty good record. I'd say and especially
35:27
with Google stuff He's got you know
35:29
and leading up to like pixel events and IO
35:31
and stuff I think you know a lot of
35:34
times he's he's nailed it and
35:36
in fact
35:37
Some of this is backed up by another
35:41
reputable source which I'll talk about in a second, but
35:43
first let's talk about one of the
35:45
leaks from John Prosser who says
35:48
pixel 7a if we Weren't
35:52
certain that we were gonna see it at IO He
35:54
says it's going to be announced
35:56
on May 10th, which is the date of Google
35:59
IO
35:59
is going to be available for purchase immediately.
36:02
The six a will not be discontinued.
36:05
It will come in charcoal, snow, sea,
36:08
which is like a light blue color and coral,
36:10
which is a Google store only
36:12
color
36:15
and $499 to start. So 499
36:21
to get the seven a happening
36:23
like right away with Google IO. So
36:26
announce
36:27
and S and for sale that
36:29
day. So that should be interesting where
36:32
things get
36:33
even more interesting. Is
36:36
all of the hype leading up to this pixel
36:38
fold? We've been talking about this thing for the last
36:40
couple of years, I feel like on this show. And
36:43
I mean, it really looks like it's,
36:46
it's everything seems to be pointing this
36:48
to this being a lock for Google IO
36:51
announced May 10th pre-order
36:53
from Google store May 10th. So
36:56
announced and pre-order today immediately.
36:59
Pre-order from partners and carriers on
37:01
May 30th
37:03
available June 27th. And
37:08
if you're wondering the price $1,799, that's
37:14
what John Prosser says, which
37:16
is, uh, I mean, that's the same price as the Z
37:19
fold, right? That's, yeah. Yeah, that's
37:21
very comparable. Yeah. Yeah. So not,
37:23
I mean, I guess it'd be too much to ask
37:25
for it to be cheaper. So I mean, that's kind of, that aligns.
37:28
That's fine. I'm still get my, try to get my little grubby
37:30
hands on it. May 10th. Yeah. If it, if
37:32
it opens, I'll be like, Oh, Oh, that's
37:34
going to be so sad. I'm going to be ordering another foldable from,
37:36
from my Z fold for is that, I'm
37:39
sorry. Sorry.
37:39
Z fold fold for, I
37:45
mean, they did. Yes. Um,
37:47
also, and, and so I also mentioned,
37:49
you know, another reputable source CNBC
37:52
has, uh,
37:53
according to CNBC,
37:56
they saw some sort of internal
37:59
communication. that was shared with their reporters
38:02
about it. Pixel Fold code named
38:04
Felix. The
38:07
Google claims in this internal
38:09
communications it has the quote, most durable
38:12
hinge on a foldable. Okay.
38:16
Supposedly it's water resistant.
38:19
It's pocket sized in quotes,
38:22
which I mean Z Fold 4 is pocket.
38:25
Not like aren't all smartphones pocket sized. What
38:28
is in pocket size? A tablet, like a full
38:30
size tablet is in pocket size. Yeah, like an S8. So
38:33
yeah,
38:34
I don't know. Let's
38:37
see your CNBC reports 5.8 inch screen
38:39
on the front. I
38:42
don't know how that lines up with the Z Fold. Folds
38:45
out to a 7.6 inch screen on the inside, which
38:49
is about the same as the Z Fold.
38:52
And yeah,
38:55
a little bit heavier I think than the Z Fold,
38:58
little bit stockier according to Florence
39:00
Ion on Gizmodo. Tensor
39:05
G2 chip.
39:07
This is kind of what we know about the Pixel Fold,
39:09
but it looks like it's almost certain to be happen
39:12
at Google IO. Are you excited
39:14
when? Can you contain your excitement?
39:17
I can, but I'm still excited. Like
39:20
I said, I probably will. I can't
39:22
contain my excitement because I'm tired, but.
39:26
Just few, the excitement of the Pixel
39:29
Fold for just keeping me upright for now, but
39:31
no, I am legitimately excited just
39:34
to get, I mean, we've talked about a lot of great foldables
39:36
coming out here, but again, kind of coming
39:39
out in markets that aren't as accessible to
39:41
us here in the US. So selfishly, I'm really
39:43
looking forward. And also just seeing how Google
39:45
does a foldable. Obviously they, as
39:48
a developer, I've been hearing about foldables
39:50
and flipables and large screens for many
39:52
years now. And as usual,
39:54
especially from the developer community, we generally
39:56
like
39:56
Google to go first and to set a
39:59
precedent and to give.
39:59
hardware like you know stock-ish
40:02
Android hardware to test on so heck
40:04
yeah I'm excited and I said like like I'm
40:07
for real if it shows up on May 10th pre-order
40:10
shows up on May 10th I'll be ordering it regardless
40:12
of where I'm at maybe that might be in the keynote or
40:14
whatever you're gonna see me my poor little Z
40:17
Fold 4 I still love you bud ordering
40:19
a pixel fold maybe they can just live
40:21
together in my pockets man I need bigger
40:23
pockets
40:24
yeah if
40:26
you're gonna have both of them living together
40:28
in your pockets you do need bigger pockets oh
40:31
go back to cargo pants actually that
40:33
was what Mateo was saying yeah cargo
40:36
pants are great for multi-device
40:38
carriers absolutely like
40:40
military pants with giant yeah
40:43
giant pockets either that
40:45
or holsters you could you could do
40:47
the holster for your smartphone thing
40:50
well then I will definitely get software security
40:53
like you do that's true yeah I did maybe
40:56
don't want to go there no
40:58
pixel fold okay so I mean
41:00
I guess we just got to prepare for the pixel fold
41:02
future because it's right
41:04
around the corner like it's less it's
41:06
well yeah it's less than a month away
41:08
that's crazy three
41:10
weeks three weeks whoa
41:13
when you put it that way it makes it even crazier
41:15
I kind of can't believe that holy moly it's gonna be so
41:17
great though yeah I get to see you in
41:24
person yeah get to see I has
41:27
he talked about it has
41:29
he talked about it should we wait till next okay
41:32
we'll wait we'll wait you maybe get to
41:34
see people other people that would
41:36
be awesome at Google IO but I'm not gonna
41:38
say any more than that cuz I don't know if I'm allowed
41:40
to but I'm just gonna leave it very obscure
41:43
like that okay you
41:45
wink mmm well yes you
41:47
probably did up next
41:49
we've got some app news
41:52
all
41:55
right let's check out some app news
42:07
Okay, when you got the first one, this
42:10
is an interesting story. I wasn't sure if it was really
42:12
app news, but I just put it down here anyways,
42:14
just because. It's
42:18
a spicy plate of something news
42:20
and I'm very happy to cover it. So
42:23
there is a report, according to report
42:25
from the New York Times,
42:27
Samsung is thinking about dumping Google
42:29
search as its default search and replacing
42:31
it with.
42:35
Bing. Yes. So
42:39
according to the New York Times, internal messages from
42:41
Google indicate that they quote panicked
42:44
when learning that Samsung was considering a switch
42:47
of the default search engine on the Galaxy
42:49
line of devices, both phones and tablets.
42:52
I mean, maybe like about
42:54
a year and a half ago, this might have seemed real,
42:57
real weird, but I
42:59
think we all can imagine why
43:01
this switch might be
43:04
considered considering some of the
43:06
big news that
43:08
we have listened to. And I guess now
43:10
in this show in particular participated in as
43:13
active like users. The
43:15
speculation is basically that chat, chat,
43:17
TPT integration that, you
43:20
know, that, you know, Samsung
43:22
might be wanting to kind of leverage that
43:25
as their phone search. And
43:28
like this would be a huge blue, a
43:30
huge blue, a huge blow to Google
43:32
who gets 3
43:34
billion annually from
43:36
Samsung right now as its default search. This
43:41
is all kind of up in the air,
43:43
like Samsung still talking to Google,
43:46
Samsung still talking to Microsoft presumably
43:48
or reportedly. So I mean, who knows what actually
43:51
will happen. So I mean,
43:53
we've reported previously on how Google is kind of
43:55
like all hands on deck, kind of trying
43:58
to, you know,
44:00
really with releasing Bard and trying to, you know, like
44:03
moving, you know, executives
44:05
and staff around to kind of get, you know, Bard,
44:08
you know,
44:09
in the same position, I guess, as chat GPT.
44:12
They are going to try to bring Bard
44:14
AI to search under
44:16
a project codename Magi, I guess
44:19
wise, wise folks, wise, wise AI.
44:21
So, yeah, we'll
44:24
see what happens. It is possible that
44:26
Google will unveil Magi in
44:28
May, May when
44:30
other things might be
44:32
maybe, maybe there's
44:35
something happening in May that we
44:37
might see this at.
44:40
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe I
44:43
don't know. So
44:46
I will, I do want to point out, cause
44:48
I wasn't aware of this, but there is,
44:51
there is definitely pushback on
44:53
whether this would even be possible and actually
44:55
kind of makes sense. And actually I'm pulling from
44:58
an article on
45:00
Android authority. So thank
45:02
you chat room for, for
45:04
calling my attention to this, which, so
45:06
the article says, Samsung can't dump Google
45:09
for Bing as the default search engine on
45:11
its phone and on its phones. And
45:13
the reason for this is because of Google's mobile
45:16
application distribution agreement, the
45:18
MATA, which basically requires
45:21
Android OEMs to pre-install
45:23
Google search and use it
45:26
as the default, which actually
45:28
makes a lot of sense, right? It's like that tool
45:30
of, or it's that, it's that bag of,
45:33
of Google
45:35
apps and services that if you want
45:37
to run, you know, if, if you
45:39
agree to this, then you get access to all of Google's,
45:41
you know, really top tier stuff.
45:43
And that does include Google search as the requirement.
45:46
And would Samsung
45:49
were Samsung to move all
45:51
of its search capabilities
45:54
into the Microsoft being thing. They'd be sacrificing
45:57
a lot of other things in the process because that
45:59
agreement.
45:59
would be broken. Oh, but
46:02
the matter has changed by region. I think we talked
46:04
about, for example, India kind of making
46:07
Google have their own version. That's
46:09
right. Yes. So it is part, I mean, so actually
46:11
it might depend on the region. So
46:14
I think, I think it says Europe, obviously
46:17
Europe has been hitting at Google quite a bit. And
46:20
I think we did talk a bit ago about India
46:22
kind
46:23
of making them change the MADA
46:25
matter to make it a little more permissive
46:28
and more choice involved.
46:30
So there could be a, I
46:32
mean, I guess there could be an avenue there for
46:34
being to
46:36
butt in and maybe take a chunk out
46:38
of that 3 billion. So that's interesting. And
46:40
actually that kind of is interesting coalescence of both, you
46:43
know, individual countries hitting
46:45
back at Google and demanding changes to the
46:47
MADA for, you know, monopoly
46:49
competitive reasons. And then, you know,
46:52
this whole other can
46:54
of generated worms. Ooh,
46:56
that sounds very nasty. But, you
46:59
know, that is a very interesting time also in terms
47:01
of the competitiveness within the generative
47:04
AI space or sorry,
47:05
chat bots, chat bot, chat, g,
47:07
generative chat space. Yeah, yeah,
47:09
yeah, totally.
47:10
So that could be a really interesting kind
47:12
of like storm of a lot of different events
47:14
for Google. Just speculate EYUS, at
47:16
least in certain regions. I'm sure that,
47:18
yeah, us in the US are maybe not going to see much,
47:21
but yeah, I mean, Europe,
47:23
India and
47:25
other countries. I mean, these things, yeah, these
47:27
things are being unraveled and changed.
47:30
It's certainly, I mean, I
47:32
agree that it's probably,
47:35
you know, in light of this, this MADA
47:38
point, which I missed in my prep, in my prepping
47:41
for tonight's show. Certainly
47:44
that seems to put a pause on it.
47:47
I don't think that it eliminates the potential
47:49
threat of something like this long
47:52
term though. I think that really anything
47:54
can happen when you've got
47:57
all of these different countries.
47:59
really focused on in some
48:02
ways kind of dismantling the control
48:04
and power of companies like Google
48:06
over their products in
48:09
the way that's happening in the EU and India
48:11
and other places. So something
48:14
like this might not happen in the US, but I
48:16
don't know, I could see some massive
48:19
changes happening in the US that might
48:22
make something like this more possible,
48:24
something to consider. At
48:27
the same time, you know, having
48:29
just, I mean, today having a fresh experience
48:32
with the Bing chat
48:34
thing, it's
48:36
a pretty cool product to have
48:38
integrated into search to be able to
48:40
use, you know, your search
48:43
product in that way. So
48:46
if Google is working to bring its own
48:49
to its search product,
48:50
that just, you know, kind of somewhat tangentially
48:53
related to what we're talking about here. That
48:56
makes me really curious to see what's going
48:58
to happen on Android over the next year or
49:00
two, as this stuff starts to
49:02
get implemented first into search,
49:05
and then the potential of that getting implemented
49:07
on a deeper level into other aspects of
49:09
mobile computing. Yeah, for sure.
49:12
You know, more than AI already
49:14
is, which Google is very want to let you
49:16
know how great they are at AI
49:19
on mobile, you know?
49:20
Really, we really, really want you all to know,
49:23
like, seriously, we can chat
49:25
GPT too. Let me tell you about
49:27
Magi. Let me tell you. Yeah.
49:29
Oh my goodness. We're going to hear. Interesting. Yeah.
49:31
I mean, Google IO is going to be very,
49:34
I mean, not that it hasn't already been
49:36
filled with AI catchphrases
49:39
and terminology in the past handful
49:41
of years. This year, buckle your
49:44
seatbelt because I think they were going to go,
49:46
this is their opportunity
49:48
with that megaphone just to remind
49:50
everyone or to think that they're reminding everyone,
49:53
hey, we're the big dogs when it
49:56
comes to AI and here's all the things
49:58
we have planned. I think we're
49:59
going to see a lot of it. a lot of that at Google IO. That's
50:02
a really good point, because you could play a drinking game, a
50:04
really dangerous drinking game about machine learning
50:06
and Google IO announcements the last what,
50:08
four, many years,
50:10
so many years. And it's so funny because
50:13
I mean, I think it was always that
50:15
kind of aspirational in the future, sort
50:17
of slowly bubbling up into different features
50:19
like assistant or whatever. But now it
50:22
actually feels like they are actually being
50:24
directly challenged and really have their feet
50:26
to the fire
50:27
in terms of really showing something and
50:29
not just like,
50:30
you know, nice again, aspirational
50:33
like far thinking kind of things. Oh, look at this really
50:35
cute like Google, wait, look at Google Assistant. It's
50:38
talking like Jup, Pluto, it's role-playing,
50:40
it's cosplaying Pluto and answering questions. Now this is
50:42
like real, this is like real
50:45
like business impactful like future of,
50:47
you know, all of not just the space, but even
50:50
like
50:51
speculating, speculating, you know, the business of Google,
50:53
like how the business side of Google ends up. So anyway,
50:56
really fun stuff. I can't wait to see
50:58
that keynote.
50:59
Oh my God, it'll be fun. It'll be interesting.
51:01
It'll be fun. Looking forward to
51:03
it. One of my favorite features
51:06
in the last handful of years, and I guess
51:08
it's since Pixel 2, I've
51:10
talked about it plenty of times on the show before, is
51:12
the now playing features, the feature
51:14
that when you have it activated on your Pixel, it's
51:17
kind of like an ambient, it's
51:20
an ambient listening device that scoops up
51:22
all of your data. No, it doesn't scoop up all
51:24
of your data, but it does hear when there's music
51:27
in the room. And when it knows that there's
51:29
music playing in the room, it's able to quickly
51:31
fingerprint that music and go and log
51:34
it on your phone to say like, these are
51:36
the songs that just passively
51:38
played in areas that you
51:40
were with your phone. And I don't know, I
51:43
find that feature, like I don't use
51:45
it all the time, but when there is a song that's
51:47
playing that I'm like, oh, this is a good song. And
51:49
I look at my phone and it's just passively
51:53
letting me know on my lock screen
51:55
who that artist is and what the song is. And
51:58
I didn't have to do anything for
51:59
it other than pick up a song. my phone. It just
52:01
feels like magic when
52:03
it works out and that feature seems to
52:05
work really well.
52:07
And so I love it. They're
52:10
adding a new feature coming soon.
52:12
I don't know when this will happen, but it
52:15
looks like possibly Android 14 is going
52:17
to get some sort of an update to
52:19
now playing. It's an expanded
52:22
summary page. So you'll be able
52:24
to summon the summary page. It shows stats
52:26
on songs identified, categorizes
52:29
that information into
52:32
things like genre, artist, frequency,
52:35
at which time you heard certain songs.
52:37
If you go into
52:39
an artist, they'll tell you all the songs by that
52:42
artist that you have heard over time.
52:45
Just weird little things like that that me
52:47
as a music nerd,
52:49
I would appreciate features like that. Also,
52:52
when does your phone hear the most music?
52:54
Like when during the day
52:57
or are you around music
52:59
the most, that sort of stuff and having kind
53:01
of like a 30 day summary
53:03
of all this detail. So I don't
53:05
know. Sounds, you know, I can
53:07
totally understand how someone wouldn't
53:10
care less about
53:11
this sort of feature.
53:14
It's probably how I feel about like
53:16
sleep, you
53:18
know, sleeping data, like tracking my sleep.
53:20
Like I don't really care about that data, but
53:22
somebody does. They care a lot and
53:25
I care a lot about this. So
53:27
I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll
53:29
be fun. Although honestly, my, my
53:31
fun stats will be very boring the last two, three
53:34
weeks. I've been listening to the same song over and over and over again.
53:36
So it'll just be sad for me as like, girl, change
53:39
your like
53:40
insert music streaming service of choice
53:43
station, please. You've been listening
53:45
to Lewis Capaldi a lot, haven't
53:47
you? He
53:50
caught me at Jason. Actually, it's the new Darude.
53:55
I just saw the, I just saw the screenshot.
53:57
It's totally yours.
53:58
It was me. And also. I can't
54:00
get the disco. Let's go, uh-huh, I'm Paramore
54:03
and Marj, this is all you, isn't
54:05
it? Yeah, I love the seven-part smell. Yeah, totally, oopsies.
54:08
DJ's crying for help. DJ's
54:11
crying for help. Ah, ah, ah,
54:14
ah, ah. That is a great, now I'm gonna
54:16
look up that song. See, this is why this
54:19
was a very indirect way of figuring this, I need to look
54:21
up that song, because I gotta know what that song
54:22
is. Gotta know what that actually is. Oh, then being
54:25
a cry for help. All right, okay,
54:27
so, so
54:30
let me just say this, Google wants you
54:32
to uninstall Meet,
54:34
so you can use Meet. Oh yeah, that makes sense.
54:36
Yeah, it makes total sense. So in yet more
54:40
things are named very confusingly over
54:42
at Google, basically,
54:45
we talked last year about, or maybe
54:47
even the year before that, who knows anymore, about
54:49
how Google had Duo and Meet,
54:52
and then they were gonna merge
54:54
Duo and Meet, but then they were gonna still
54:56
call it Meet instead of, I don't know,
54:59
Du-mo, Meet-uo,
55:01
just anything else, just anything else other than
55:04
Meet. Meet Plus. Meet
55:06
Plus. Meet Plus.
55:09
The new apps called Meet, you still got the original
55:11
Meet, and now basically Google wants to
55:13
inform users that they should uninstall
55:17
the OG, the original Meet, and
55:19
get ready for a better Meet. Now
55:22
they are providing an
55:23
informative pop-up,
55:25
but yeah, it's
55:28
really confusing. We
55:31
gotta take advantage of these opportunities to
55:33
poke and rib Google
55:35
a little bit on its naming and its duplicate
55:38
apps and stuff. Is it the end of
55:40
the world? No, but
55:41
it's kind of silly. And
55:44
at the same time, I understand, they don't want
55:46
that old app around anymore. What are they gonna
55:48
do? But I don't know, it just, it
55:51
feels very Google is what it is, that's all I can say
55:53
about
55:53
that. Yes, yes, just, I
55:55
mean, so wait, I wasn't quite able
55:57
to parse this from the, so is this in the
55:59
old?
55:59
meat is a screen in the old meat or the new meat.
56:03
So is the old meat telling you to uninstall
56:05
it and then get the new one? Yeah.
56:07
Oh, that's so good. So
56:10
get it now that appears to be in the
56:12
old meat. Okay. So that's, that's
56:15
okay. I don't know.
56:18
It's so confusing. Get it now. For
56:21
best results, uninstall meat original.
56:24
Yeah. After the new
56:26
app, uh, the OG, you know,
56:29
get rid of the OG. Yeah.
56:30
I really want someone at Google
56:32
to push an update to the OG
56:35
meat and have like a big uninstall
56:37
me icon or just something like that.
56:40
Like, I mean, that's not, they would never do that because it's not very professional
56:42
and very kind of like little gross user
56:44
experience, but we can actually be better. Just be
56:46
like uninstall me. Uninstall
56:48
me. Just uninstall. Push here
56:50
to uninstall this app. You don't need any
56:52
more because you've got this one that has a
56:54
different name, not the same name.
56:56
You're welcome. Yes. Yeah.
56:59
They could have just done that. See, or just
57:01
picked another word. So many words.
57:04
There are
57:06
plenty of other words that you could have gone with, but
57:08
they just really like meat. Apparently they're
57:11
meat eaters and
57:13
wallets. They like meat and wallet.
57:16
Google. There's two things we know about Google.
57:18
They like their meat and they like their wallets.
57:22
That is true. I think you had a
57:24
meat wallet. That's gross. Okay.
57:26
Anyways. On
57:29
to our Android intelligence tip.
57:32
J. R. Ray feel has
57:35
even more. You thought you knew everything
57:37
about the YouTube for Android
57:40
app. You don't. There's more
57:42
to learn and J. R. is here to teach you.
57:44
Hey
57:46
team. Lovely to see everyone as
57:48
always. So we've been talking all things
57:50
YouTube for a couple of few
57:53
weeks now. We started out with some out
57:55
of sight settings worth digging
57:57
up and finding in the YouTube Android app and we moved
57:59
forward.
57:59
from there, some helpful hidden shortcuts
58:03
for splashing around all your favorite
58:05
virtual streams. Well,
58:07
today we're going to go in a slightly different direction
58:10
and we're going to dive into some privacy
58:12
safeguards, things that are in the YouTube
58:15
Android app and can really be helpful if you
58:17
ever want to go off the grid
58:19
and watch certain clips without having
58:21
them be remembered. Don't
58:24
worry, I won't ask for details.
58:27
So first things first, if you know you're going
58:29
to be watching something you'd rather not
58:32
have stored in your YouTube history,
58:34
where it'll always be visible
58:36
and then probably lead to endless recommendations
58:39
for other videos on that same subject too,
58:41
you can use YouTube's incognito
58:44
mode for Android to go off the record
58:46
and stop your activity from being recorded
58:49
for a while. Once you know where it is, it's actually
58:51
really easy to activate. So just tap your
58:53
profile photo in the upper right corner
58:55
of the app's main screen, then
58:57
tap turn on incognito
59:00
in the menu that comes up.
59:03
Anytime that mode is on, you won't see any
59:05
of your usual history, subscriptions,
59:07
recommendations, or anything like that, and
59:10
nothing you watch will remain associated
59:12
with your account in any way.
59:15
Whenever you're ready to turn incognito
59:17
mode back off and get to normal, just
59:19
tap your profile photo again
59:22
to find the option. Next,
59:24
if you want to keep your video watching activity
59:26
from being stored eternally as a general
59:28
rule, check out this buried YouTube
59:31
privacy treasure. Just tap your profile
59:33
picture in the upper right corner of the YouTube
59:35
Android app,
59:36
tap settings, and then tap
59:38
manage all history. Tap
59:41
the name of the Google account you're using, then
59:43
tap the line that says auto delete.
59:46
And hey, how about that? There where no
59:48
reasonably sane human would ever
59:51
venture lies an option to have
59:53
the app automatically eliminate all
59:55
your YouTube activity data
59:58
on a rolling 3 month 18.
59:59
month or 36 month cycle.
1:00:03
That way you can enjoy some of the conveniences that come
1:00:05
from having that history and all the associated
1:00:07
recommendations there without
1:00:09
having everything you do become a
1:00:11
permanent part of your Google account record.
1:00:14
Oh, and if you ever realize you've watched something you'd
1:00:17
rather not remember after the fact,
1:00:19
we'll take note that same
1:00:22
section of the YouTube settings also
1:00:24
lets you manually delete any individual
1:00:27
video views from your history. So
1:00:29
no more endless right
1:00:32
said Fred recommendations just
1:00:34
because you were feeling slightly sexy
1:00:37
on one random day. Last but
1:00:39
not least, a little known fact, by
1:00:41
default, YouTube actually makes lists
1:00:43
of every playlist you've
1:00:44
created and every channel you've
1:00:47
ever subscribed to public and
1:00:49
available for anyone to see. Which I
1:00:51
mean, hey, maybe that's OK by you or maybe
1:00:54
you're someone who doesn't want your secret
1:00:57
affection for the early works of Ace
1:00:59
of Base to be known to the world.
1:01:01
If you'd rather keep your most mortifying
1:01:04
tastes to yourself, you can make
1:01:06
your YouTube activity private by heading into
1:01:08
the settings area of the YouTube website
1:01:11
on a computer,
1:01:12
click privacy in the main left of screen
1:01:14
menu, then turn on the toggles
1:01:17
next to keep all my saved
1:01:19
playlists private
1:01:21
and keep all my subscriptions private.
1:01:24
Good to know, right?
1:01:25
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Next week, we'll wrap our little YouTube series
1:01:56
up with a look at some super helpful
1:01:58
advanced features.
1:01:59
that are lurking within
1:02:02
the YouTube Android app and completely
1:02:04
unbeknownst to most Android
1:02:07
appreciating animals.
1:02:09
For now, back to you, gang. Thank
1:02:12
you, JR. Thank you, too. Making
1:02:15
us all professionals in the YouTube for
1:02:17
Android app. I'm
1:02:20
amazed at how many
1:02:22
different places you have to go to
1:02:25
manage your data on services like
1:02:27
YouTube. Some of it's
1:02:29
over here, some of it's over there, some of it's
1:02:31
tucked away in this little corner over here.
1:02:34
You have to know that it's even there to
1:02:36
find it. I had no idea the subscriptions
1:02:38
were just made public by default. That's
1:02:41
interesting.
1:02:41
Yeah, I didn't
1:02:44
know either. And now
1:02:46
you know. Now I know, and now
1:02:48
I'm wondering, oh, dear. Oh,
1:02:51
my goodness. People
1:02:54
look at my subscriptions and be like, wow,
1:02:56
he follows a lot of music nerds.
1:03:01
He watches a lot of people make music.
1:03:04
Yeah, nothing
1:03:05
wrong with that. No, nothing wrong with
1:03:07
that. Good to know. Good to know, though.
1:03:10
Like, like I literally
1:03:12
don't know that I've ever realized that
1:03:15
that's how YouTube operated. That's kind
1:03:17
of important information, I think, for people to know. So there you go.
1:03:21
So you can control all of that. And thank
1:03:24
you, J.R. Rayfield, androidintel.net
1:03:27
slash twit.
1:03:30
All right. Coming up, your feedback,
1:03:32
that's up next. AAA
1:03:36
at twit.tv, 347 show AAA. When
1:03:40
you have the first one. I
1:03:42
do. And I have a email
1:03:44
from Dean. Dean
1:03:47
says, I skipped getting a Pixel 6 due
1:03:49
to reports of connectivity issues. But
1:03:51
now my Pixel 7 on T-Mobile is randomly
1:03:54
losing signal strength despite being
1:03:56
in a location with excellent coverage.
1:03:59
started about a month ago. I've tried
1:04:02
turning off 5G, resetting network
1:04:04
settings, replacing the SIM card, but
1:04:07
nothing seems to work. I was wondering
1:04:09
if it was T-Mobile,
1:04:10
but a friend's iPhone on T-Mobile has
1:04:12
stable connectivity. I opened
1:04:15
a case with Google support last week, but
1:04:17
I'm still waiting for a resolution. Have
1:04:19
you heard of recent issues with Pixel 7 connectivity?
1:04:22
Your insights would be greatly appreciated. Dean
1:04:24
from Thousand Oaks, California, viewer since
1:04:27
episode
1:04:28
one. Have you had any issues with connectivity
1:04:30
on your Pixel? I haven't
1:04:32
barely used it. No, that's true. You're
1:04:34
using the Z Fold. I do bring it with
1:04:36
me, but then it kind of acts as like a second banana
1:04:39
to whatever my other mobile activities are. So I
1:04:41
never really kind of push. I'm never
1:04:43
really on just mobile. I'm usually somewhere where I
1:04:45
have wifi. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.
1:04:48
I mean,
1:04:49
I haven't really noticed any connectivity.
1:04:51
I'm on Mint mobile. Are
1:04:54
they still a sponsor? Well, they
1:04:56
either are a sponsor or were a sponsor. I honestly
1:04:58
don't know off the top of my head, but Mint mobile
1:05:01
sponsor of the Twit network. I've
1:05:03
been using Mint for a couple of years and they're using
1:05:05
the T-Mobile and
1:05:08
they're an MVNO of T-Mobile. They're using
1:05:10
the T-Mobile network. I don't have
1:05:12
those issues with my Pixel. I mean, I did
1:05:14
some searching and came back with
1:05:16
a nine to five Google article
1:05:19
about
1:05:19
fixing your connection issues, which
1:05:22
really just says exactly what you said
1:05:24
as far as things to try. Primarily,
1:05:27
they recommend you reset your network
1:05:29
in settings or you restart your phone,
1:05:31
which there's not a whole lot of options
1:05:34
there. Yeah. I've had all these problems,
1:05:36
Jason. You have? Okay. With
1:05:38
my Pixel 6 when it came out and it seems
1:05:41
like it's all related to 5G.
1:05:43
Yeah, my husband is the same. And turn
1:05:45
off the scanning so that it just sits
1:05:48
on 4G and stays there and
1:05:50
doesn't do anything that it should just stick
1:05:54
to 4G.
1:05:55
Okay. Well, okay. Yeah.
1:05:57
My husband had the same problem while we were traveling.
1:05:59
And he was just like he
1:06:01
yeah, he's he believed it on 5g and
1:06:04
it was really funny because at that moment He had no internet
1:06:06
and I had no battery. So we were quite the pair Of
1:06:09
people traveling with our phones, but yes
1:06:13
Well, so the the
1:06:15
bummer then Dean as you know,
1:06:17
cuz you're yelling at us right now I'm sure is
1:06:20
that you've already tried turning off your 5g You've
1:06:23
already tried resetting your network settings,
1:06:25
which is what the 95 Google article
1:06:27
said You even replaced your sim
1:06:30
card, which none of us are talking about but that
1:06:32
seems like a pretty
1:06:33
drastic move right
1:06:37
And if that's not working
1:06:40
I'm starting to wonder if like your device
1:06:42
but I guess you you had these issues with this pixel 6
1:06:45
so I don't know I mean, it's it's impossible
1:06:47
for us to know exactly what's going on
1:06:49
But but I will say it seems
1:06:52
like there's a constant in the
1:06:54
fact that the 6 has
1:06:56
had connectivity issues The 7
1:06:59
it's obviously reported that the 7 has connectivity
1:07:01
issues Like maybe it's a
1:07:03
Google thing
1:07:05
And I don't know what that
1:07:07
means You know does that mean that you continue
1:07:09
giving Google a chance on their pixel devices
1:07:11
or do you try something else? That isn't gonna drop,
1:07:14
you know, I guess that's the choice you have to make
1:07:17
But yeah, I feel like it's More
1:07:20
prevalent maybe in areas where 4
1:07:23
and 5g aren't that You
1:07:26
know, maybe the network isn't that strong
1:07:28
strong We're kind of on the outer
1:07:31
limits of some of these networks here
1:07:33
in Petaluma at least I Definitely
1:07:35
am where I live there's like it's
1:07:37
super spotty and it's definitely not 5g
1:07:40
Well thousand Oaks is
1:07:42
I'm just saying around here at least I don't know
1:07:45
how thousand Oaks is Yeah, kind of a similar
1:07:47
geographic, you know, it's kind of it's like
1:07:50
built along a freeway and you know
1:07:53
Yeah thousand Oaks LA area Los
1:07:55
Angeles So,
1:07:58
yeah, I would I would think that LA would
1:08:01
have really great coverage throughout
1:08:03
but you know I guess it's definitely
1:08:06
on the outer outer outer outer is
1:08:08
it LA it's more like okay yeah
1:08:11
so I don't know
1:08:13
I don't know what the solution
1:08:15
is there but I feel your pain
1:08:18
Dean and I'm sorry
1:08:20
and I don't know what
1:08:22
else to say about that I
1:08:26
hope you figured out if you figured out let us know triple
1:08:28
a at what TV
1:08:30
Kyle from Tampa
1:08:32
Florida wrote in to say there was recently
1:08:35
a warning from the FBI warning about
1:08:37
juice jacking and to be
1:08:39
careful plugging your USB charger
1:08:41
into publicly available USB
1:08:44
charging stations these warnings
1:08:46
have been repeated on the twit network for years
1:08:48
shout out to security now but
1:08:51
my question is specifically about Android phones
1:08:53
years ago Android added a feature
1:08:55
on the phone to make a selection when plugging
1:08:58
in a USB charger to allow
1:09:00
charging only or data transfer
1:09:03
does this software feature make Android phones
1:09:06
safer or could a bad actor
1:09:08
still cause harm to your phone bypassing
1:09:11
this feature thanks
1:09:14
I mean my my assumption has been
1:09:16
that if I if the default
1:09:19
action on my phone when I plug into
1:09:21
USB which I believe it is is
1:09:24
to charge and not to pass data
1:09:26
that the data line is cut off
1:09:29
right the OS the system I'm trusting
1:09:33
that this that when the system says it's charging
1:09:35
it doesn't actually have any data
1:09:38
open I have to actually go into the
1:09:40
pull-down and select no data
1:09:43
transfer in order for that to kind of
1:09:45
that pipeline to open up
1:09:48
but I guess I
1:09:49
guess it's possible that data
1:09:51
would transfer through Burke you had the great
1:09:53
idea of just having a charging
1:09:56
cable that is charging only no data
1:09:59
possibility possible because it's just not
1:10:02
wired that way. Um, what
1:10:04
is this? Is it the port of power
1:10:07
blocker? So this is like a, like
1:10:09
a USB, uh, dongle
1:10:12
that you plug
1:10:14
into the device, the
1:10:16
charging station, let's just use that
1:10:18
as the example first, and then your
1:10:21
USB plug into that. And that
1:10:23
what that just cancels any sort of data,
1:10:25
uh, transfer possibility
1:10:28
whatsoever. It's just power. Yeah.
1:10:30
And you can see that there's only two pins
1:10:32
going to power only. That's what
1:10:34
this is.
1:10:35
I'm sorry. It doesn't that just say only data,
1:10:37
no power. It does
1:10:39
say maybe, maybe
1:10:41
not port of power. Wow.
1:10:47
No power can pass through at the, on
1:10:49
the about this item. That's
1:10:51
just funny. Oops. Uh, so no,
1:10:53
so power can I, okay. So that's the opposite
1:10:56
thing. That's no, no, don't get down on. Yeah.
1:10:59
Don't get that one. That's only give, uh,
1:11:01
only give data, not power, but they have
1:11:03
these, uh,
1:11:04
that put
1:11:08
this in there. Blame bar, huge thread earlier
1:11:11
today. Yeah.
1:11:12
But anyways, there are ways to strip
1:11:15
it out so that all it can do is
1:11:17
provide power. Um, and
1:11:19
you know, they're not going to be able to throw
1:11:21
data into your phone if they literally can't get
1:11:23
data through the wire to your phone. So
1:11:26
there's that. Um,
1:11:28
he's, he's, he
1:11:31
wants me to, to riff a little
1:11:33
bit longer. There
1:11:34
you go. Porta pow, pure
1:11:37
data blocker. So
1:11:40
what, what was the other one called a Porter?
1:11:42
What was it? Porta
1:11:44
pow, power blocker. Different thing. Yeah.
1:11:47
Yeah. Data blocker or power blocker. You want,
1:11:49
you want the data blocker. It's
1:11:52
called sure. So anyway, I guess, I
1:11:55
guess the point of your question is if it's,
1:11:57
you know, if it does that software
1:11:59
feature.
1:11:59
make your phone more secure. And
1:12:02
I'm,
1:12:03
I feel like yes, it does. But
1:12:06
like I was, I was asking around and
1:12:08
searching around for some sort of definitive,
1:12:11
like your phone can't get hacked
1:12:13
if it's just on a power
1:12:16
charging mode. And I couldn't really
1:12:18
find that. So I can't give you a definitive.
1:12:21
You're okay. But
1:12:22
I assume so, man, if not, like
1:12:25
make that a premium, like, like
1:12:27
a prime feature of Android 14. Cause
1:12:29
that kind of needs to happen, but I imagine
1:12:31
that's what the feature does already.
1:12:35
Yeah.
1:12:35
I hate to just like kind of carte
1:12:37
blanche, just say trust the OS because
1:12:39
sometimes you can't, but I, I don't know. Like
1:12:41
I think my instinct here is yeah, that should be okay.
1:12:44
But I mean, just watch me say that. And then someone
1:12:46
finds some, some nefarious way of like, right,
1:12:48
spoofing charging only mode, but I don't
1:12:50
know. It's, it's in the OS. So certainly,
1:12:52
I
1:12:53
mean, if it's not safe and there is a problem
1:12:56
somewhere, I know that's kind of an obvious statement, but like,
1:12:58
yeah, I don't.
1:12:59
I don't think it should be like
1:13:01
that. Yeah. I imagine
1:13:03
if this was a security feature that Google rolled
1:13:06
out and they're defaulting to charging only
1:13:08
on plugin. And we
1:13:10
all know that this, you know, juice jacking
1:13:13
threat, like it's a thing. It's,
1:13:16
it's not like some obscure, you know, threat
1:13:19
or anything. I have to, yeah,
1:13:21
I agree with you. I have to trust that Google,
1:13:23
when they implemented that
1:13:26
feature, did that with this sort of thing
1:13:29
in mind. So you don't
1:13:31
have to worry about it. So I think you're okay.
1:13:33
But, but there are ways to protect
1:13:35
yourself even further. And that is this like power
1:13:38
only dongle or cable. Yeah.
1:13:41
So anyways, there's some options
1:13:43
for you, Kyle. Hope that's helpful. When
1:13:48
you have the honors. Yes.
1:13:51
And it is now time for the email of the
1:13:54
week. Email
1:13:57
the week. Woo is from JC.
1:14:00
Hi, I've been an Android user since
1:14:03
the Samsung Galaxy S3, and
1:14:06
you guys have been my go-to podcast for
1:14:08
all things Android. Oh, thank you, Jaycee. Your
1:14:10
conversation in AAA625
1:14:13
about having AI such as chat GPT
1:14:16
being integrated in SwiftKey and Bard
1:14:18
in Gboard got me thinking. Personally,
1:14:21
as a Gboard user, I can't wait for Google
1:14:23
to integrate Bard in Gboard if it can understand
1:14:26
conversational context using
1:14:29
multiple languages. In
1:14:31
the Philippines, English is pretty much a first
1:14:33
language alongside our native dialects. It's
1:14:36
very common to seamlessly switch between
1:14:38
languages even in the same sentence in
1:14:40
normal conversation, both verbally or chat.
1:14:43
While Gboard does its best to suggest words,
1:14:45
more often than not, it autocorrects the word I want
1:14:47
to use with the one it thinks is correct, but
1:14:50
actually is not. This is especially true
1:14:52
in words such as and
1:14:54
in English, at English or
1:14:57
Tagalog, depending on the use. And I'm
1:15:00
not going to pronounce this right, Victor, you can
1:15:02
overdub me. And
1:15:04
thank you, Burke. Tagalog are
1:15:06
often used in the same conversation. I
1:15:08
would like to see AIs in keyboard apps that
1:15:11
are smart enough that can understand the context
1:15:13
of the conversation so they can
1:15:16
accurately autocorrect with the appropriate
1:15:18
words when it comes to mixed language conversations.
1:15:21
Thanks. Keep up the good work. And
1:15:25
JC, Salaamatpo
1:15:26
for your email.
1:15:28
And I'm actually really excited
1:15:30
about this email of the week.
1:15:35
Because I actually as a Vietnamese
1:15:38
American that is also learning Japanese
1:15:41
have run across this many, many times. We
1:15:43
just like the limitations. I mean, I don't
1:15:45
know, like I feel like a lot of folks that are bilingual
1:15:47
or live in a kind of multilingual
1:15:50
culture tend to do this, which
1:15:53
is to again
1:15:53
mix, you know, jump between languages
1:15:57
or just jump between languages. And
1:15:59
yeah, it is.
1:15:59
I have done that exact thing of being auto
1:16:02
corrected, or I
1:16:04
continue typing and not realizing that I switched to the wrong keyboard.
1:16:06
So I think that actually does, that would
1:16:08
be a really cool way of leveraging chat GPT
1:16:11
and kind of a learning language model to kind
1:16:13
of just be able to context switch,
1:16:14
because I just think
1:16:16
it'd be really cool. And it's a very common thing.
1:16:18
So hopefully there would be things for chat, for like, you
1:16:21
know, conversations for chat GPT
1:16:23
to learn from. So yeah, I don't
1:16:25
know.
1:16:25
I could totally see this happening, but
1:16:29
also we're kind of in this mode right now
1:16:31
where everything seems
1:16:33
possible with AI, but this seems like perfectly
1:16:35
fit to the strengths of AI
1:16:37
and
1:16:42
understanding context and everything that
1:16:44
we're seeing around AI as
1:16:48
has to do with language and
1:16:50
stuff. So I don't see how this would be very
1:16:52
complicated to integrate
1:16:55
compared to some of the other things that Google's already
1:16:57
done. And I'm sure that they're
1:16:59
working on. So yeah,
1:17:01
that's kind of
1:17:02
relates to what I was talking about earlier,
1:17:05
as far as like, you know, we've seen AI
1:17:07
on mobile so far, but
1:17:10
now in the past six months, we've seen some
1:17:12
really interesting new directions
1:17:15
that go much, much further
1:17:17
than we're used to seeing, you
1:17:19
know, with generative AI and chat
1:17:21
bots being actually smart
1:17:23
enough, you know, to use and
1:17:26
these sorts of things. So what is
1:17:28
the next couple of years like from
1:17:30
that new kind of paradigm of
1:17:32
artificial
1:17:32
intelligence? And I think things are
1:17:35
gonna get really interesting, could, you
1:17:37
know, continue to be the
1:17:39
real strong differentiator between
1:17:42
different mobile platforms and more
1:17:45
than they already have been to date. So
1:17:47
yeah, I think that
1:17:49
sounds like an amazing, amazing
1:17:52
thing to hope for, JC. It sounds
1:17:54
really, really useful.
1:17:56
Yeah, I would totally plus
1:17:59
one star.
1:17:59
upvote whatever you want to call it this feature.
1:18:02
And yeah, like,
1:18:05
absolutely. I mean, especially in
1:18:07
the US where we have all kinds of different languages,
1:18:09
bilingual situations, especially
1:18:11
like Spanish and English too. And yeah, anyway,
1:18:15
awesome idea. I hadn't even thought about that, but
1:18:17
heck yeah. I'm ready. I'm heck yeah.
1:18:20
All the way. Congratulations.
1:18:26
Good job, JC. And
1:18:28
with that, we have reached the
1:18:31
end of all about Android,
1:18:33
a wonderful show. I really enjoyed
1:18:36
just hanging out with you in tonight. So
1:18:38
thanks for, uh, yeah, thanks
1:18:40
for coming on tonight. It's a lot of fun.
1:18:43
It was great. I feel like we've been hosts
1:18:45
passing, passing through the night, the last
1:18:48
three weeks.
1:18:49
Yeah. Yeah. There's been
1:18:51
a lot of, a lot of, uh, yeah,
1:18:53
schedule mismatch and everything. So this
1:18:55
is really great. Um, what
1:18:58
do you want to leave people with? Actually, I
1:19:00
kind of know what you want to leave people with, but I want
1:19:02
you to set it up.
1:19:03
So I actually have content to like
1:19:05
link and like promo and all kinds of
1:19:07
stuff. So yes, I'm an Android developer that uses
1:19:09
Kotlin and I was at Kotlin Conf last week.
1:19:12
Uh, and not only that, I gave a talk,
1:19:15
which I have yet to link on, but, um,
1:19:17
something I've always kind of been a part of my
1:19:19
Android life. Uh, and now my Kotlin knife is kind
1:19:21
of interviewing other devs and just learning
1:19:24
about what they do, why they do what they
1:19:26
do, what they like about the technology, whether
1:19:28
that's Android or Kotlin. And I got the chance
1:19:30
to do this again at Kotlin Conf. Uh,
1:19:33
if you're interested, I mean, honestly, sometimes they're just really
1:19:35
great stories of what people are doing in tech,
1:19:38
regardless of whether, you know, you are
1:19:40
a Kotlin Knight like myself or not, but
1:19:42
yeah, it's called Kotlin Confer- Conversations.
1:19:45
Cause we had the Kotlin Conf and their conversations.
1:19:48
So yeah, uh, just check it out. Even if you just
1:19:50
want to see me like asking a bunch of very
1:19:52
smart people, silly questions. Um, people
1:19:55
are doing really, really cool things
1:19:57
with Kotlin and actually
1:19:59
take a bunch of Android people on. So there's
1:20:02
a lot of relevant conversations.
1:20:05
Folks using Android apps to kind of help, you
1:20:08
know, farmers in Kenya increase their
1:20:11
crop yields. People just doing
1:20:13
really cool stuff like that. So yeah, please, if
1:20:15
you're interested at all, check it out.
1:20:17
And I'll promo
1:20:19
other stuff when it comes out from Kotlin Conf,
1:20:21
but yeah. And you can find me at randomlytyping.com
1:20:25
otherwise.
1:20:25
Right on. Thank you, Wynn.
1:20:28
Congratulations on a very successful
1:20:31
conference, it sounds like. Yeah,
1:20:33
it's good to see you. Big
1:20:35
thanks to J.R. Rayfield, Android
1:20:38
Intelligence. That's androidintel.net
1:20:40
slash twit. You can find his
1:20:43
newsletter there. You should definitely subscribe
1:20:45
to that. Big thanks to
1:20:47
Burke here in the studio. Big
1:20:49
thanks to Victor at home,
1:20:52
behind the scenes. Both of them
1:20:54
working arm in
1:20:55
arm to
1:20:58
make sure that this podcast is flawless,
1:21:01
totally perfect, and without any
1:21:04
sort of errors whatsoever. And
1:21:08
yeah, no, actually we're all human doing the
1:21:10
best that we can. So you're gonna
1:21:12
get what you get. But they turn
1:21:14
around a pretty awesome product. So
1:21:17
we could do without you both. So thank you. You
1:21:20
can find me this week doing
1:21:23
a little bit more than normal. Actually last
1:21:25
Sunday
1:21:25
I hosted Twit. So
1:21:28
had a lot of fun filling in for Leo. He's
1:21:30
back on Twit this upcoming
1:21:32
Sunday, back from his vacation in a few days.
1:21:34
So you're gonna see him very soon. But while
1:21:36
he's out, you know, I did security now
1:21:39
with Steve Gibson earlier today. Tomorrow
1:21:41
I'm doing this week in Google with the
1:21:43
Twig crew. So I'm really
1:21:46
looking forward to that. Had a lot of fun last Wednesday
1:21:48
on Twig as well. And then Thursday,
1:21:50
Tech News Weekly with Mike Sargent.
1:21:53
So Jason's a little busy
1:21:55
last couple of weeks, but it's fun.
1:21:57
It's fun being this busy. Actually it's very
1:21:59
nice.
1:21:59
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