First, Doug gives his pre-tournament college hoop thoughts on what players teams and conferences he's watching heading into March, and if ESPN's Jay Williams deserves to get crushed for his Caitlin Clark hot take.

Then, Gottlieb continues his talk with former Bears Director of Player Personnel Josh Lucas to discuss cutting his teeth in his first NFL job as a Jags intern under Tom Coughlin, landing scouting job with the Saints days before Hurricane Katrina wiped out New Orleans, the ‘Katrina’ year experience in San Antonio, reaching a crisis point managing his anxiety, and how he developed a prescription pill addiction to self-medicate, and how he continued to climb the NFL front office ladder to become the Bears Personnel Director despite of it.

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