A PR pro and a journalist? It's a tale as old as time. On this week's episode of #AllShineNoFlash, Ann sits down with Portland Business Journal’s Malia Spencer to discuss her perspective on being a woman in journalism, how AI is affecting the communications industry and reasons to feel optimistic about Portland's community and future. She also dives into her favorite tip for PR pros (hint: you can look it up), advice for aspiring journalists and why it's not always a bad idea to let people underestimate you.