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We're going to get into your just the ground

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setting and trend setting things you guys

3:34

did in your past, but a house current life.

3:36

What's going on with you guys today today?

3:38

First I woke up and then here

3:41

I am. Uh, we're

3:43

doing a bunch of things.

3:44

Man.

3:44

We got this business going. That's that's kicking

3:46

ass.

3:47

You know.

3:47

We just we've got it all over the country.

3:49

Now.

3:50

Yeah, we were doing what we

3:52

were talking about, revitalizing other of

3:56

pot shops and rebranding

3:58

them. So that's going good. And what else we

4:01

just did.

4:01

We're both married to real strong

4:03

women, so we don't do a whole lot on anything.

4:05

No, we

4:08

just how does this look?

4:10

Okay, it's the power of a strong

4:12

mind. You get strong women.

4:15

That's super.

4:17

Still touring though, right, No, no,

4:20

no, we know we finally when I went into

4:22

the monitors at one show, cut

4:24

the ship out of myself and messed

4:26

up my knee and

4:28

he.

4:28

Didn't want to do the wheelchair thing, and

4:31

we told, are you kidding at the airport,

4:33

man, do the wheelchair thing, because

4:35

then they put you on first and anybody

4:38

with you. Yeah,

4:40

yeah, convince them to.

4:42

You know, the strippers

4:44

do it everywhere.

4:44

Now the strippers.

4:46

Have you go to the airport, the strippers and figured it out. They act

4:48

like they hurt and they get on the plane person, you.

4:50

Know, that's why take

4:52

it over.

4:53

Yeah, they do that, not now, especially

4:55

in Miami.

4:56

Strippers are smart. I ran

4:59

into this guy that my wife is

5:01

Russian born and raised in Saint Petersburg, Russian

5:03

russ All these Russians are so beautiful

5:06

and educated and

5:08

you know, my wife just got her doctorate

5:10

from s Music and and yeah,

5:14

all the Russians I know are strippers.

5:18

There's the other side. You know, they're

5:20

smart. Yeah, they're smart.

5:21

Just speaking of strippers, do you guys remember

5:24

La Wanda Page.

5:27

Yeah, aunt ast on Red

5:30

Fox.

5:32

Remember google

5:34

her?

5:34

Google her.

5:35

Don't tell me she used to be she.

5:37

Used to be a top stripper.

5:39

Yeah, exotic answer.

5:41

I worked with her in Canada

5:43

in the fifties and she

5:45

had an act where she had a live boa

5:47

snakes, snake and trouble

5:50

is a snake died, but she kept using it.

5:54

You gotta gotta google her,

5:57

the one the page.

5:58

She was the funnish, gorgeous,

6:02

beautiful woman, but she had a sense

6:04

of humor that was killer.

6:07

I knew her, I knew her there. Yeah, she kept that.

6:14

Miller Miller, Norman Miller, who was

6:16

with Red Fox too.

6:17

And she was a dancer in the in the

6:20

well, the you know the

6:22

bebop, Yeah, the old bebop

6:24

when at the end of the war, you

6:27

know, and jazz and

6:29

beat and dancing was the thing to

6:31

do.

6:31

Well.

6:32

Norman Miller was one.

6:33

Of the documentary when

6:35

she her dancing and the days was it.

6:37

So she being the

6:39

MC at Red Fox's Comedy

6:41

Club. And so the first time the Chief

6:44

and I were ever on stage, ever in

6:46

a comedy setting, was at

6:48

Red Fox's Club. And so Norma

6:51

says, what's your name? And so we told her, you know,

6:54

Cheech and Chong. And so when a time to

6:56

announce her, she goes, ladies and gentlemen here there

6:58

give it up for a geek.

6:59

And

7:03

I said, who do you want to be tonight?

7:04

Geek?

7:04

A guy?

7:06

I'll be the other guy.

7:09

Lenny Bruce's whole into entourage

7:11

was there. Lenny had just died a couple of

7:13

months earlier, and

7:16

it's entourage used

7:18

to follow Lenny everywhere. They had nowhere to follow,

7:21

nobody to follow, and so they they

7:24

were at the comedy club and when we were there,

7:26

and Tony Bescuara Lenny

7:28

Bruce's mother.

7:30

No Len Bruce's father and father in law.

7:33

He was a young Chicano that married

7:35

Lenny's mother, Sally mar

7:37

I think said she was like

7:40

forty and she was like sixty. And

7:43

Tony lied said he was thirty

7:46

when he was like eighteen. And

7:48

they got married and they went on

7:50

a year honeymoon, and that at

7:52

the end of the year, you know, they decided,

7:54

you know, the age thing and everything. But they

7:56

remained really good friends. And so

7:59

Tony was Lene Bruce's road

8:01

manager, and he was the one that

8:03

bought Lenny the heroine that took

8:06

him out. Yeah, And

8:08

so after we got to know that, Tony

8:10

saw us right away he adopted

8:13

us and he became our

8:15

manager, although we had to support him.

8:19

And that's the way I worked with managers.

8:21

Man And I.

8:21

Asked, I asked Tony, I said, you

8:23

know, because he was the one that gave Lenny

8:26

the start. And

8:28

so I said to Tony, I said, what's

8:30

the big deal with heroin?

8:32

What is it?

8:33

It's taken out so many people?

8:36

And Tony didn't.

8:36

Say a word.

8:37

He reached in his pocket and pulled out a packet

8:39

the heroin and gave it to me. And

8:42

so I took it, put it in

8:44

my pocket as I always do,

8:47

and then I hit it

8:49

in my sock drawer. And

8:51

then about a month later I took it

8:53

out and flushed it down the toilet.

8:55

I said, this took

8:57

out too.

8:58

Many, too many,

9:01

and it's going to crush me. I know that

9:03

if I did anything, and I just flushed it down

9:05

the toilet.

9:07

Tell us about Up in Jokes debuts

9:09

soon.

9:10

Well, well, one of the things that we noticed we

9:13

opened some uh dispensaries

9:15

in Boston, and

9:18

when we were there, I looked around, Man, this

9:20

would make a great comedy club, because

9:22

the thing about comedy clubs, you just need a place

9:25

that's warm, with a little stage and a mic.

9:28

Not even a stage, you just need a microphone.

9:30

And so we're going to start

9:33

doing comedy and up

9:35

in Jokes, and we're going to get all the new Cheech

9:38

and Chong type or anybody

9:40

you know that wants to go on stage

9:42

and then we're gonna introduce

9:46

the world to some then

9:48

charge.

9:50

We're going now more than

9:53

flick business.

9:55

Now we learned.

9:56

Yeah, so up in jokes is going to be uh,

9:59

you know, it would be like what dispensaries

10:02

should.

10:02

Be, whether they are or not.

10:05

See, I was never really even though

10:07

we had a cannabis

10:09

cafe in Winniberg movies, what

10:12

was it still smoking? We

10:14

had we built a cannabis cafe in Amsterdam,

10:17

and and when we you

10:21

know, we finished the movie, the guy kept

10:23

the cafe.

10:24

Yeah, he kept it going.

10:26

What's the name of it?

10:28

It was Bolgar's yacht. That

10:30

was the artist

10:32

Bulgar. Yeah, that made the backwards

10:34

watches. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah that

10:36

was but I don't know that what we

10:39

call it? Do you remember no cafe?

10:43

Yeah, I had a name on it.

10:45

I can't remember.

10:47

Something like that.

10:47

Yeah, but times have changed and

10:49

now Amsterdam's bulldogs.

10:52

It's almost illegal there. Yeah,

10:55

flipped around.

10:57

I just got I just came from there and I stated

10:59

the dispensary, the restaurant cafe

11:01

the whole day and smoked all day every day, like yeah,

11:04

nice. I love that's nice.

11:06

That was great.

11:07

Yeah, movie shot a movie there.

11:09

You know they heard I directed

11:11

it, you know, and they heard, oh man chunks

11:13

coming, you know, so all the

11:15

big potheads and in Amsterdam

11:17

they got together, you know, we're going to take Chong

11:20

up for a night.

11:22

I made it. I made it for a but a half

11:25

hour. It's different.

11:26

They literally had to carry me, yeah,

11:29

to my room and put me on the bed.

11:31

I saw two people and the next morning

11:33

they still haven't been to bed. They're still a party.

11:36

Man.

11:37

Those rush, those Dutch

11:39

guys, man, they go hard.

11:41

I was in a cafe out there one time, smoking and I

11:43

saw two people kind of just lose consciousness, and

11:45

they carried them outside, lift them upside down and poured

11:48

like water on their neck.

11:49

And on their head, and they came back to That

11:52

must be the tradition.

11:54

The man.

11:56

That hold them upside down and poured water

11:59

here and on their face and started coming back

12:01

to life like some fish.

12:02

I was like, what the fuck is going on? Right?

12:07

Was crazy?

12:08

Back today?

12:08

I can imagine they had squatters.

12:10

Has it always been not to cut you off? Has it always been

12:13

legal out there? I'm guessing

12:16

yeah, Okay, depends on you know who

12:19

you got in power right now they got sort

12:21

of they're leaning toward the right wing kind

12:23

of.

12:23

Okay, so see Amsterdam

12:26

was always what everybody else is doing.

12:28

They would do the opposite.

12:29

Okay, you know.

12:30

That's that's that's real nature.

12:32

Interesting you guys and else also that

12:34

you guys have a biopic. Yeah,

12:37

can you tell us a little bit about that?

12:39

I know, no, go,

12:42

yeah,

12:49

doesn't have to be in it.

12:51

Yeah, I'm

12:53

dead already in this biopic, my

12:57

kids take over.

12:59

If he's in it, or he's going to be in it, he'll

13:02

scroll down to his part, learn

13:05

it.

13:05

Bullshit bullship my line. Okay,

13:09

that's funny.

13:10

So when did that be dropping?

13:11

And I don't know, Mark, we're

13:15

going to be doing it in March.

13:18

But oh that the oh the bio.

13:21

It's not a bio.

13:22

Pick.

13:22

It's actually a documentary.

13:23

It's documentary. Okay, it's

13:25

more of a documentary. But after the

13:28

it's a it's called Cheating.

13:30

Chong's Last movie.

13:31

Okay, and so it's going to.

13:33

Be uh, it's

13:35

a it's a document It started out to be a documentary.

13:38

But the guy Dave that does that, he's

13:41

done a lot of good movies, sling Blade

13:44

those and so he winded him

13:46

and his editors.

13:47

They took it and they made a real movie.

13:50

Okay, and they got they got us in there

13:52

fighting and really and so the people

13:54

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13:57

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13:58

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officer. You grew up a biracial

15:43

Calgary can y'all speak on your upbringers. Tell

15:45

us a little bout how y'all grew up.

15:47

Yeah in Calgary, Yeah, yeah, Calgary.

15:49

I wasn't born in Calgary, but

15:52

I went to Calgary when I went to Canada.

15:55

Yeah, I got deported out in Calgary.

16:00

We had a band.

16:01

We had the first soul band in Western

16:03

Canada, and we got so

16:06

popular.

16:06

Wasn't I wasn't the

16:08

shades, the shades.

16:11

Everybody was a different color.

16:15

We called ourselves the Shades, but

16:18

we were all athletes, like

16:20

uh. We had a sax player that could

16:22

have been a pro pro football player,

16:24

you know, tight end. And then

16:27

the singer was a star

16:29

running back that they were grooming him

16:31

for the pros, Tommy Milton. This

16:34

guy's thing was that you kicked the ball

16:36

to him, he'd run it back for a

16:38

touchdown for the junior and

16:41

so so he became the singer. And

16:44

my brother was a linebacker at the time,

16:46

and so my brother became the

16:48

bass player because we needed a car.

16:52

He couldn't play bass, but he

16:56

so we had a lot of and the piano player

16:58

Bernie. He was like a uh

17:01

he played football too, but he was more of

17:03

a bodybuilder, you know, mister everything.

17:06

And so we had a tough ass band.

17:09

But we uh, we're

17:11

so popular. Oh and

17:14

and I don't know how everything

17:17

that happened to me very serendipity for

17:20

some reason.

17:22

Oh I know what happened.

17:25

I got caught with a friend. A friend

17:27

of mine stole the car and

17:29

it stalled near my house.

17:31

So he called me up.

17:32

He said, I got a car, but it's not running,

17:35

and so I went down to help get the car

17:37

started. Of course, the cops caught

17:39

us, and I ran

17:42

home. We ran home, and they

17:44

followed the footprints.

17:48

So I went to jail. I

17:52

went to jail for.

17:53

The first time that night, but both

17:55

of us did. And it was funny too, because

17:57

we both jumped into bed, you know, with their clothes,

18:00

and the cop came to the door and my mom

18:02

says, oh, they've been here all right, And

18:05

the cop said, excuse me, man, walk why

18:08

followed the snow into it?

18:11

Yeah, yeah, took us

18:13

to jail.

18:13

Well, when I got we got in

18:16

the end, it was like it was called joy riding.

18:19

One hundred dollars. Fine, but I

18:22

my social kind

18:25

of mind said, well, the reason

18:27

people get in trouble at colgot there was nothing for

18:29

teenagers to do. And

18:31

so I went to the magistrate, the magistrate

18:34

that sentenced me. You know, I

18:36

went and I had to talk with him, you know, just knocked

18:38

on his door. And one

18:41

day and I went in and talked to him

18:43

and I told him there was nothing for kids to do.

18:45

And he looked at me.

18:46

He says, weren't you just in

18:48

front of me, yes,

18:52

And he says, the

18:54

kids need something to do, well, go find

18:56

something to do.

18:59

Go do it. It's your idea.

19:01

And so I started the Team Club, the

19:04

Shades Team Club. It was a

19:06

stroke of genius because we got

19:08

everything donated. We got

19:10

a hall donated in the Break

19:13

downtown, the Legion Hall, the

19:15

best hall you could get. And so

19:17

our band that's where we started playing. And

19:19

so our band was first R and

19:21

B, first time they heard Chuck.

19:23

Berry or Bo Dilley or anything in

19:25

Calgary.

19:26

And we've packed, We've had.

19:28

People coming from everywhere Alberta pack

19:30

in the place. Trouble is, they shut

19:33

us down at midnight. And midnight

19:35

you got all these rock and roll people had nothing to

19:37

do, and Calgary. So they went

19:39

and just terrorized the city. And

19:42

so the cops called us into the

19:44

office two

19:46

weeks before Christmas nineteen

19:48

fifty eight, and they said, you

19:51

guys got to get the hell out of town, really,

19:54

yeah, for good?

19:55

For how long? Like forever?

19:57

And so so we looked

19:59

at each other with yeah, because

20:01

you know, we're young. And so we went

20:03

to Vancouver and that's

20:06

when we got That's when my career really started.

20:08

Was in Vancouver interesting.

20:09

Because that's all we did was play music and

20:11

then sleep all night, you know,

20:14

work all night and then sleep all day.

20:16

And so L A L A I

20:18

did the exactly same thing and we got arrested.

20:22

Doing different things.

20:23

Was and when we met, we started

20:25

telling each other that's exactly the same story.

20:27

Should get together, right, And so

20:31

I read how you so you

20:33

was? It was it you didn't want to go to the war, so

20:36

you took off the Canada. I did, so

20:38

tell us about that part. No, you don't want

20:40

to know, you don't want to share today, Okay, Well.

20:45

It was it was?

20:46

I was. I was.

20:46

He gets nervous because when we

20:48

first snuck, we had a sneak into Canada.

20:52

I L A.

20:54

Us from Canada, right, Yeah,

20:58

they weren't inspecting a Mexican sneak in through

21:00

Canada. So we'd be on stage

21:02

and I'd say, any FBI people

21:04

here at night.

21:06

A shut up the shut no bullshit.

21:08

Man.

21:08

I was after.

21:10

And so so anyway, I was part of the draft resistance

21:13

move under David Harris and our Muhammad

21:17

at least signed my draft card. I'm

21:19

with you if you with me.

21:20

And that's when you quit, right.

21:23

Uh no, no, that's what I

21:25

was. My last semester in school

21:27

at cal State Northurg Valley State at

21:30

the time then

21:32

it was Valley State back then, Okay, and I

21:34

took a pottery class because there's this really cute

21:37

girl that says, what are you doing for this class? I don't

21:39

know. I'm take pottery with me, okay

21:41

boom, and took pottery, flipped

21:43

out. Pottery is my life

21:46

now. And I quit all my other classes, quit my job,

21:48

got a loan, and did pottery. That's

21:51

so I wanted to be a party. But at the same time

21:53

I was this draft resist and so

21:55

they were after us. You know, they were starting to seventy

21:58

Yeah, they're starting to send people living were and ship

22:00

and I was a student. I was a two S student, so

22:03

they but they changed our classifications

22:06

and then said we're gonna be the first

22:08

one's drafted and sent to the front lines in Vietnam.

22:11

And so I said, well, that's a really good plan. So

22:14

I wanted to continue

22:17

pottery. So my pottery teacher said

22:19

he had this student in Canada that's starting

22:21

a pottery ex student. Maybe he needs

22:23

a I got on the dog and

22:25

went to men and went into Canada,

22:28

and I was there for the next three years awaiting

22:30

my pending trial. It was going

22:32

to come, which happened, which came three

22:34

years later. We got when we came back to

22:37

the the case went to court

22:39

is and and got thrown out, which

22:43

we knew was going to have it. Well, we hoped

22:45

they would have it. You know, they got thrown out.

22:47

That week, they sent me another notice to appear

22:50

for physical you know,

22:52

this is three years later. And then a week later

22:54

they sent me another notice. Fuck

22:56

so, but I had broken my leg really badly

22:59

skiing in Canada, which I never

23:01

skied before.

23:03

But you took Mexican lessons.

23:04

Yeah, explain

23:07

what that means.

23:08

Yeah, I mean.

23:11

You need skis and

23:13

proper ski clothes. Those jeans

23:15

won't cut it.

23:16

He was out there with jeans and a T shirt off.

23:19

You know, I had jeans, have

23:22

money to buy ski clothes and

23:25

so and so. I came back, but it got thrown

23:27

out and so then we were free to

23:29

do teaching song. But in the interim, man,

23:31

you know, it was kind of a little dicey because

23:33

I was back in the country illegally

23:37

being you know, I was illegal both ways.

23:40

But there's no joke, you know that what do

23:42

you call a musician with other

23:44

girlfriend homeless.

23:47

Road?

23:48

And I heard that

23:50

it wasn't for girls, we wouldn't

23:52

be here today.

23:54

I mean you kind of see that in the movies. You hang with a lot

23:56

of girls and kind of find your way. How did

23:58

you guys meet though? Like, how do you mean you're

24:00

well, you're already there.

24:01

I had, I had.

24:03

I had a couple of clubs again, very

24:05

simplicity, nightclubs. I have two

24:08

nightclubs literally given to me. Hey,

24:12

because of the band. We had the hot

24:14

band, and a guy bought a

24:16

nightclub or building and he wanted to say,

24:20

no, this is another one, and so

24:23

they.

24:24

Would you like a club?

24:25

Yeah, of course, So I started

24:27

After Hours club, which

24:29

that's where I met Red Fox, and that's where I met

24:31

all the you know, Motown people

24:34

and everybody you know, and uh

24:36

and it was because our

24:38

band was so so good that

24:41

we got discovered by Diana

24:43

Ross and the Supremes. They

24:45

came down and it was

24:48

again, sex has a lot to do

24:50

with it, because Barry Gordie

24:53

was doing Diane

24:55

at the time, and so Diane

24:58

said, hey, I saw

25:00

this band, an incredible band, and

25:02

so Barry said, okay, I'll come and check

25:04

him out and get a little booty call in the in

25:06

the meantime. So so Barry showed

25:08

up and he saw us, signed us

25:10

and then then

25:13

forgot about it.

25:13

Yeah.

25:14

And so then we gigged our way to

25:16

Detroit and I wrote a song

25:18

called does Your Mama Know About Me? Everybody

25:25

recorded it, yeah, and

25:27

uh yeah recorded

25:30

it, and

25:32

that put me in good graces with Barry.

25:34

But but then Bobby,

25:37

Bobby was Bobby old school

25:40

uh rock and roll singer, you

25:42

know, old school R and B singer. In

25:44

other words, you had a couple of jobs when you're old

25:46

school, and one must being a pimp

25:50

and foremost yeah, and

25:52

again, don't have a

25:54

girl and you're homeless you know. And

25:57

uh, and so Bobby's mentality

25:59

couldn't fit in with success on

26:02

a big on a big scale,

26:04

you know. So so Bobby went

26:07

his way. And then I got fired from Motown.

26:11

Yeah, because I had another gig

26:13

to play. I had to get my green card.

26:15

And that's all too.

26:19

Where are you getting your green card at? Laying

26:22

there wherever?

26:23

It was just laying there. I didn't have my name on it,

26:25

but it was just.

26:28

So I got my green card and then uh.

26:31

And then we met.

26:32

He was running his family

26:34

owned It was a family owned.

26:36

It was another club that was given. It was

26:39

a dinner club in Chinatown,

26:41

Vancouver. So I turned it into a strip

26:44

club and we're doing good.

26:46

That's why I knew about Levanda and all that, you know, because

26:48

strippers were good and everything. But after

26:51

I got fired from Motown, I went back to

26:53

work the clubs to put another

26:55

band together. Actually, and

26:57

then uh, then I was watching the

26:59

strip is because I had a choice that I could work

27:01

in the after hours club or

27:05

be with the naked girls. And I thought, I

27:08

think I'll do with the girls. So now

27:10

watched and I realized that they look more

27:13

beautiful when they come on with

27:15

their street street clothes, and

27:17

so I said, wow. And they're

27:19

good actresses, you know, because when you're a stripper,

27:21

you're it's an act And so I

27:24

said, so I wanted, So I

27:26

created an improvisational acting

27:29

troupe with the with the girls still

27:31

doing their strip, but they would

27:34

have street clothes on. We'd we'd

27:36

do sexy bits that we got from

27:38

Playboy magazine and.

27:41

Uh.

27:41

And so I had a straight

27:43

man. We had I had a partner that had

27:45

long hair and a straight guy that looked.

27:48

Like a cop.

27:49

Well, he got fired because we had publicity

27:51

with publicity shot

27:53

taken on the front page of the paper

27:56

with rick Lands and the girls

27:58

titties on either side. And

28:02

his Christian wife says, no.

28:05

I found out what he was up.

28:09

So he called me.

28:10

He said, man, I can't, I can't work anymore.

28:13

And so there was a mutual

28:15

fan, a Russian that owned

28:18

a hippie newspaper Ukrainian Ukrainian

28:21

was Ukrainian, uh and

28:23

and so he told me he was a big

28:25

fan of the show. And he says, I know just the guy

28:28

that you need in your show. And so I

28:30

went down I met Cheecht at

28:32

his the hippie newspaper thing.

28:35

And when I first met Cheech, I

28:38

couldn't figure out what he was. And he wasn't coming.

28:41

You know, he's hiding the fact that he was

28:43

Mexican, you.

28:44

Know, because he was.

28:48

You get to Richard

28:51

Marron, he wasn't

28:53

Richard Marien. We didn't

28:55

hear the man in until we got down.

29:01

Understood how to pronounce it. Yeah,

29:05

okay, are you done?

29:07

Okay, So none of

29:09

that's true. He was never in a band, and

29:12

no, we we like he said it was a

29:14

friend who had this magazine called Poppin'

29:17

and I was writing for the magazine introduced

29:20

us and we hear Tim's writing. When we both saw

29:22

each other, we both looked at what are

29:24

you? You know, like it's

29:27

like a Mongolian biker.

29:30

Was he looked like

29:32

a mooney.

29:32

Yeah, I just come

29:34

out of the woods man. That's

29:39

what I thought. Man like look because he

29:41

was a blend or something.

29:43

He was a blend of something.

29:44

Yeah, And so he says, well,

29:46

come on down. I told him I was this great writer

29:49

for an improv So

29:52

he says, come down and see this show. And I did,

29:54

and it was okay, you know, srippers, and

29:57

but there's one bit that they did. It just cracked

29:59

me up, you know, So I go, okay, I'll join

30:01

this thing as a writer. And I started

30:03

writing for the for the improv company,

30:06

and then and then

30:08

and then filling in for people that

30:10

weren't there. I do every part in

30:12

the show is so finally, you know, I could do any of the

30:14

whole show. At the end of the

30:16

day, the troops split up and Tommy and I were

30:18

ones left together. So what do we

30:20

do?

30:22

Well, we performed one time for

30:25

the Three Dog Night. Remember the Three

30:27

Dog Night.

30:28

That band not familiar real,

30:30

Okay, you are a youngster.

30:32

Youngsters Anyway, they were

30:34

very popular. They were bigger than

30:37

they had, more hits than they

30:40

had like some thirty

30:42

top ten hits or something. Anyway,

30:45

the drummer was my first

30:48

wife, was a beautiful black lady

30:50

from Calgary named Maxine

30:53

Well. Her brother, Floyd Snead, was the drummer

30:55

of the Three Dog Night and so

30:58

they so they came came

31:01

to town, and so we put a show together

31:03

for them with the improv. It was

31:05

the last show we did with all the girls

31:08

and everything. And then

31:10

then Cheach and I put a band together

31:12

and we're gonna then we

31:15

got a gig at the Gardens, the

31:17

Battle of the Bands, and so

31:19

we went down there to play the Battle of the

31:21

Bands. We had our bass player and

31:23

everybody all ready to go, but

31:25

we went on and did comedy instead,

31:28

you know, to begin with, We're going to do a

31:30

few comedy bits then and go.

31:31

To the music.

31:33

We never got to the wind We

31:35

just played, did the comedy, took a bow, and

31:38

then the bass player goes, oh, when's our next

31:40

gig? Bos because they

31:42

never played a note. And then on the way

31:44

home, we're driving to my dad's

31:46

car and the Winschild wipers

31:49

weren't working, and so we're taking turns, leaning

31:51

out with a cold hanger, working the windshield

31:54

wipers, trying to figure out what to

31:56

call ourselves. And it

31:58

was like Richard and Tommy, Mirron

32:01

and Chong. So I

32:05

said, don't you have a

32:07

nickname?

32:09

And he said Cheech and that

32:11

was it.

32:13

And it was never Chang and Cheach because being

32:15

musicians, we knew that it scanned better teaching

32:18

Chong, and

32:21

so that's what it was. We're

32:23

gonna take over the world as soon as we can get these wipers

32:26

fixed.

32:28

So obviously, starting in the music space, transitioning

32:30

to improv and then ultimately comedy.

32:33

Like, who were some of you guys earlier influences?

32:35

Was it?

32:35

Was it strictly music or did you like people

32:37

on the comedy side as well?

32:39

Yeah?

32:39

I grew up with loving comedy, you know,

32:41

like in every form. Everybody,

32:44

every comedian was on the Ed Sullivan Show, and

32:46

any of those guys I've been, I loved comedy,

32:48

and I memorize all their routines and

32:51

stuff, and my cousins and I some

32:53

mothers, brothers. Bye Bye Tommy,

32:55

he just died, and

32:58

they were they were heroes. And Millennium,

33:00

Bruce and all those guys, Bruce

33:03

Man and so

33:05

so we we had the same frame

33:07

of reference. You know. I think

33:09

that because I grew up in an all black neighborhood

33:12

half my life at South Central and then

33:14

on all white neighborhood and Granadi Hills. So

33:16

one day everybody was black and then the next

33:18

day everybody was white. What

33:21

happened in the nighttime.

33:24

Went from hey, Michigan to.

33:27

Excuse me, sir, That

33:30

was Canada.

33:32

That was excuse me sir.

33:34

So anyways, you know, but because you

33:36

know, when when you have this, you listen

33:38

to the same records, have the same comedy influences.

33:41

You know, it makes it

33:43

easier because you have this this background

33:46

that you know where everybody's coming into. So

33:48

when we got together, like you know, we like

33:50

the same people and listen to them and we're

33:53

you know, encyclopedic about them.

33:55

Long lost brothers. Yeah, in

33:58

seventy one, you guys drop your first comment. The album,

34:00

self titled Teaching Show ended

34:02

up being nominated for six Grammys. You

34:05

took home one. Do

34:07

you think that art of comedy

34:09

has kind of lost?

34:11

No? No, I don't think something.

34:13

From an album standpoint.

34:14

Oh was yeah? Probably albums?

34:17

Yeah, albums are lost.

34:18

Yeah, just in general.

34:19

There is TikTok now, so

34:22

you instead of an hour and a half album, you

34:24

got twelve second bite

34:26

it done.

34:27

That's what it is.

34:28

Is it funny too, because at one time the

34:31

singles had to be under two minutes, and

34:34

then MacArthur's Park come

34:36

along and it was like a twelve minute bit or

34:39

something and that that changed it.

34:41

But now it's like TikTok.

34:44

No albums.

34:45

People bringing albums and they don't you know, they

34:47

don't know. One time, my

34:49

twelve year old son was

34:52

standing in front of I bought this old

34:54

console record

34:56

player that you could pick up for nothing, and.

34:58

You know what it was because there was youth listen.

35:01

And I came home one day in the l a, I

35:03

mean in Canada, and my son standing

35:06

there with an album looking for a slot

35:08

to.

35:08

Stick it in like a CD. He

35:10

didn't know how to work out. Yeah,

35:13

that's funny. What's the backstory

35:15

of basketball?

35:16

Jones? Oh?

35:17

That that was.

35:20

We're on our way to the Laker game.

35:23

Do you want to tell it? No?

35:24

No, you tell it?

35:25

Do you tell it?

35:26

Because do you want to tell it? Yeah,

35:29

okay, we'll tell it.

35:30

We're on our way to the Laker No.

35:33

He always he doesn't believe that half the

35:35

ship, I say, you know, we're

35:38

on the way to or when he believes it,

35:40

then he'll steal it.

35:41

Yeah.

35:44

So we're on our way to the Laker game and

35:46

Cheaches in the in the back

35:49

seat. I'm in the in the but

35:52

the passenger side. Nicholson

35:54

is driving Jack Nelson and Jack

35:56

Nicholson and we're late getting

35:59

there, of course, and so Jack drives

36:02

on the wrong way on Manchester

36:05

Avenue for about three miles

36:08

on the wrong way. It Cheaches

36:10

in the back singing I got basketball

36:13

Tones go to basketball

36:15

Tues.

36:16

There was called es

36:19

out and.

36:22

Basketball Jones.

36:24

I gotth and it just stuck

36:26

in my mind, that's finny.

36:28

We got to record that ship. So

36:31

we did the next day we went

36:33

in the recording. It was so easy.

36:36

That's a great thing about record industry in those

36:38

days. I mean, you make a movie, it takes forever

36:40

to make it, and then it takes forever before it comes

36:42

out. In the record industry, you go in the studio

36:45

and you could be on the air the next day. We man

36:47

so it was like fast, you know, so you could

36:49

really uh

36:52

describe what was going on in the scene around

36:55

you. And that's what made it so fresh, you know. So

36:58

that was that was I missed records.

37:00

And we used to play basketball, you know,

37:02

pickup games played at.

37:04

U c l A.

37:04

Went you that was That's that's what we went

37:06

to. U c l A. Did you always.

37:09

They had this one game where they had it was

37:11

a charity game where they had all the u

37:13

c l A guys that had gone onto

37:15

the pros with celebrities,

37:18

and they split them in half. You know, half of the

37:20

u c l A guys wanted to and then

37:22

and celebrities and everybody

37:24

was there and Michael Jackson, No, no,

37:27

no, Jackie Jackie.

37:29

We used to play with him and all the

37:32

Hollywood stars, and then Paul

37:34

and Marvin Gaye.

37:36

Marvin gay.

37:40

You look, he said, you're looking at him? He said,

37:43

who was good back then? Who they really

37:45

played?

37:45

Call me Wilt the Stump.

37:53

When we were touring, we go around to the

37:55

y m c. A Man

37:58

and we got some of the comedy there.

38:01

We're playing a couple of ghetto guys, you

38:03

know, and there's one brother timming

38:06

down and he's holding his finger up and his

38:09

partner goes, what.

38:14

We gotta play that? I don't know.

38:18

I don't want to play with people like that.

38:20

So hold on back to Jack Nicholson driving down

38:22

the wrong way on Manchester heading

38:24

to the form that ended safely,

38:28

no trouble.

38:30

Mister Nicholson, Come on, would

38:32

you like to drive on the wrong side on our street?

38:35

Oh? No? It was what what? What?

38:36

What was the form like back in the day, because

38:39

we had we've had magic on here.

38:40

We're hoping to get kareem.

38:41

But we've heard legendary stories about the club

38:44

inside the form and the game and.

38:46

The cheerleaders we're seeing

38:48

Jerry Buss, the owner. He was

38:51

up the people man, and

38:53

he never had a box. He had seats

38:55

with the people man.

38:57

He was.

38:58

We did say he wanted to sit with Jerry, but no, man.

39:01

See the games we

39:03

had, we had first little seats, did you all

39:05

showtime? You know, it wasn't the ones on

39:08

the court, but the next the next time there was

39:10

an isle. But we had those seats for

39:12

a long time. And all the Lakers were

39:14

our buds.

39:14

You know.

39:16

One time I had I had a friend that had

39:18

seats at the Clippers when

39:20

they were like they've kind

39:22

of they've seen in the high school drives.

39:24

They've always kind of been like this on

39:27

the ring side one and Charles Barkley

39:30

was the other guy.

39:32

And I saw that Barkley

39:35

could get affected if you heckle

39:38

him. But you got to heckle him properly.

39:40

And the way that heckle them, especially your ring side

39:43

talk on your normal voice because

39:45

he can hear everything. And so I'm

39:48

sitting there and say, watch Barkley. Watch

39:50

him. He's ball holling. He

39:52

won't pass the ball until it's too late. Watch and

39:55

the next thing you know, he passed the ball

39:57

and it's too late. He

40:00

got so pissed. And I'd do it in such a way

40:02

that I wouldn't be looking at him.

40:03

I'd be just talking looking, So we

40:06

didn't know where it was coming. Come

40:09

over to the guy next to me, Mama,

40:18

yeah.

40:19

Went away, and the guy's looking at him like that,

40:23

so he started coming down again. I started

40:25

back again and got shut up.

40:28

Yep.

40:30

What was the comedy scene like in la As

40:32

you guys are you know climbing climbing the ladder?

40:34

It was bubbling, man. There was a lot of comedians

40:37

out there, you know, because there was these these

40:39

comedy clubs started appearing. We were

40:41

in one of the very first one. It was like right

40:44

on Sunset Strip and all

40:46

tiny little rooms. But there was a ton

40:48

of comedians out there, man, everybody. But we

40:51

were the only kind of hippie talking

40:54

about weed or what it was going on the

40:56

scene. So we were unique in that sense.

40:58

There's a place on Sunset Canopos

41:01

and it was writing. It was a steakhos and

41:03

the owner, the kid, the father,

41:06

the son of the owner, decided

41:08

he wanted to get into comedy, and so

41:11

he got a microphone up in the steakhouse

41:14

and he had they had an upstairs

41:16

where he could use his a dress room, and so

41:19

he'd have like a

41:21

about six or seven comedians.

41:23

And so we joined the group.

41:26

But when we did a bit called the Dogs,

41:29

Now to forget, this is a steakhoust and

41:31

the dogs were were

41:33

smelling each other's butt and

41:36

it was so funny and so shocking,

41:38

but it's still a steakhouse. The

41:41

waitresses would get embarrassed. They would

41:43

run outside when we did the bit because

41:47

it was so right right. In

41:49

fact, we got paid fifty quid in

41:51

London not to do the bit.

41:53

Yeah, that paid you not to do it.

41:58

Scott's boy,

42:00

it's a great show.

42:02

Here's fifty quick. Don't do that bit. Don't

42:05

leave that one out.

42:07

I mean, you guys were against the grain from

42:09

a standpoint of cannabis

42:12

and and and movies and in

42:14

your bits and your and your stand up, was there

42:16

pushback at all? Or it was fucking I mean, you guys

42:18

are doing motion pictures. Well I went in

42:21

the seventies, I went to jail for nine

42:23

months off the bit of a push up. Pushback.

42:26

Yeah, somebody being chong.

42:30

Everybody else got house and rest.

42:33

So had the good sense not to be.

42:34

Chong we the other Yeah,

42:38

no, what we What we attacked

42:40

more than anything, right from the get go,

42:42

was racism. That's

42:44

what we attacked. We changed the conception

42:47

of Chicanos

42:49

with the with the headband, you know, being the

42:52

game.

42:52

Head, the gang guys.

42:54

Yeah, and we did it

42:56

purposely. Like my character in Up

42:58

and Smoke was a Jewish

43:00

kid, you know, and

43:03

and here I am, you know, and

43:06

rich?

43:10

What was a rich Chinese kid?

43:12

What was what was your cousin's name in that movie

43:14

that you went to the house Red?

43:16

Yes, ye, Red? Yeah, d

43:18

Wayne Mendoza.

43:20

Yeah, Wayne, missioned

43:22

to find some tree.

43:23

Yeah, what's his name?

43:25

The actor Tom Skerrett?

43:28

Yeah, yeah, that was Tom Skirtt. No,

43:30

I was I was Red?

43:33

Oh no? Or

43:35

the other character? No?

43:37

The next movie? Yeah, no, what was it?

43:38

Strawberry?

43:39

What was it was? Strawberry?

43:40

Strawberry? Tom skar Yeah, yeah,

43:43

Strawberry was Yeah. That's about

43:46

He's still alive.

43:47

He is a ninety Yeah,

43:52

just gotta get my there

43:54

you go.

43:56

Legal crack, which I remember about Pee

43:58

Harmon.

43:59

He's the great Pee

44:03

Wee Herman. He was a

44:05

member of.

44:05

A group called the Groundlings, which was a very

44:08

first improv group in l

44:10

a. Yeah, they're still there. I mean, and everybody

44:12

came out of the groundlings and so we

44:15

we saw them and kind of rated the

44:17

whole company and put them in our movies. Pee

44:19

Wee Herman and Dy mcclerk, Phil

44:22

Hartman, all those guys who put them

44:24

in the movie. And it was because they knew

44:26

how to play improv. They were jazz

44:29

musicians and comedies and

44:31

so we got along great.

44:32

And Pee was great.

44:35

He had that character right from.

44:36

The beginning, always always interesting.

44:38

That wasn't the only thing he did, but he had

44:40

that character right from the beginning, which is okay,

44:43

well he put that character here, be the

44:45

clerk in the office, or be the guy.

44:47

On the stage.

44:47

You know, worked really well.

44:50

He was, he was He was a funny guy.

44:52

How how easy was it

44:54

incorporating cannabis into your movies, into

44:56

everything?

44:57

It was We got away with it

45:00

because it was over before

45:02

anybody could do anything, you know, you

45:06

know, in and out,

45:08

we never really smoked. We

45:11

never broke any laws.

45:12

Yeah, did you guys really smoke weed in the movies

45:14

though in between takes,

45:17

so it wasn't any But the real stuff

45:19

was Indian.

45:20

You know, we couldn't stunt

45:23

weed. It was horrible,

45:26

horrible.

45:26

But we would get smoked before the

45:28

take and sometimes they'd say,

45:31

Okay, we're rolling

45:33

and we'd be yeah, we're rolling

45:35

too, And so we

45:38

we missed the queue and

45:40

their run back in the day

45:43

was film, right, and so they were wasting

45:45

this money film and there are

45:47

you guys ready? Oh yeah,

45:50

Okay, then we'd wake up

45:52

and do the shot.

45:53

How much would be ad living and how much would be script?

45:55

Once you guys kind of start going ok.

45:58

But we'd ad lib on the script right right

46:00

right the scene in

46:02

the car. We did that every night

46:04

on stage. But there was stuff

46:07

that we did for the film that you we never did before,

46:09

and it was only captured because we were doing it all film.

46:12

That we would improvise all those parts.

46:15

You know, it's like taking I want to be my same

46:17

play, my funny, funny Valentine, but Miles

46:20

Davis plays a different than time.

46:24

And all the actors that we had were horm

46:27

and writers as well. You know, Stacy

46:30

Keach sergeants to Danko. Yeah,

46:32

he basically wrote his his, his

46:35

and his troop and he

46:37

put his own jokes in there.

46:39

What what a priest?

46:42

Ondriday what

46:44

kind.

46:45

Of meat, dude, I don't know.

46:46

Tell us.

46:54

The Yeah, I was born seventy eight, Up

46:56

and Smoky turn a small budget. It's a forty four

46:59

million, two more films.

47:01

This is yeah I was born.

47:02

Yeah, that's

47:06

and that's how much money they said they made

47:09

right right money.

47:11

They really made.

47:12

Right right right. It's crazy to think you

47:15

put on a lot of people. What does the trilogy rank

47:17

in your eyes?

47:18

Smoke definitely?

47:20

Uh.

47:21

I like the next movie too. It's it's a

47:23

funnier movie, you know, laugh

47:25

for laugh and uh, what's

47:27

one?

47:28

Uh?

47:28

Still Smoking? Still Smoking

47:31

has all our old bits that

47:33

we never got around to shoot a movie about,

47:35

and so we put him in there there and we knew

47:37

that we wouldn't be doing those bits anymore. So

47:40

so like the Invisible Wrestler and all

47:42

those great bits. The classic

47:46

you mentioned going to jail. Were you in jail with Jordan

47:49

Belford?

47:49

Yeah, talk to us about uh, just

47:51

your guys back and forth and kind of friendship

47:54

and how that kind of turned into.

47:55

Well he wouldn't prinche kiss right away.

48:00

It took a while while just

48:04

like.

48:09

No, he was, he was great man.

48:11

It was the other prisoners that that had

48:13

problems with him. You know, I

48:15

had no problem with it. Wasn't anybody. You know,

48:17

I was a celebrity, so I was like

48:20

Jesus walking around. I

48:24

had everybody the warden.

48:27

One time we shot a podcast

48:31

for the documentary and we

48:33

were using the warden's office in

48:35

the main the main building. But

48:38

you know how movies are, you know, you're the king,

48:40

you know, So so we were they were setting

48:43

up and I could hear the warden and then walking

48:45

around in the other room. So I yelled, hey, quiet,

48:47

and we're shooting in here,

48:50

and everybody got

48:52

all quiet. Tippy too, And here's a warden,

48:55

Tippy, you know, Tippy doing around

48:57

for no reason. Man, you know, just that there's

49:01

one of his his klim men in

49:03

there.

49:04

Tell him I'm running ship now.

49:06

Yeah, being that both of you guys

49:09

are basically trendsetters in the

49:11

Stone of Comedy space. But it's just really

49:13

comedy. Do y'all get offended?

49:15

And when people say Stone of comedy

49:18

and was it did it affect

49:20

your relationship with be in the face like so

49:22

many people judging y'all and saying different things, Did ever

49:24

affect your relationship?

49:27

No?

49:27

Uh not really?

49:30

I mean I couldn't get into

49:32

Disneyland one time because I had a T shirt

49:34

that was obscene, you know,

49:37

and I held a grudge.

49:38

For a while.

49:39

And in fact, when I got offered to do

49:41

Lyone King, I shaid, know,

49:45

I.

49:45

Missed moved there.

49:51

Hey she was checked. I got from Holy

49:54

Jesus, right.

49:55

But the racism

49:58

I realized myself, you know, over

50:00

the years, I was really brought

50:03

up as a white supremacist, you

50:05

know, seriously. I

50:08

had all my friends from

50:10

the country, and and even

50:12

though I was found out now

50:15

that I'm part Native, uh we

50:18

were. I was half Chinese originally,

50:21

you know, that's what I started.

50:27

But it was always racism

50:29

that we encountered.

50:31

You know.

50:31

That's why My brother is three years older than me,

50:33

and he fought going

50:35

to school and coming home, you know. And

50:37

that's the way it was back then.

50:39

You know.

50:39

You look at the toughest guys would see

50:41

each other and make a date and go

50:43

out in the back and fight,

50:45

you know, and it was brutal,

50:49

you know, coming up like that. And when

50:52

I was a teenager, I

50:54

saw the trend

50:59

was to become a pachuco. Pachuca

51:02

is a Mexican gang guy. The

51:05

Zoot suit, you know, baggy.

51:08

Pants, blood and blood out.

51:10

Yeah, and they always had a zoo

51:12

tattoos right there in the middle there,

51:14

right there. And it was

51:16

funny because tattoos are like advertising

51:19

for criminals.

51:20

You know, you'd have a.

51:22

White tear drop tattoo.

51:25

And so my white supremacy tattoo. My

51:28

house was also used as a halfway

51:30

house people getting

51:32

out of jail. And this one being

51:36

honest and he and he gave me this

51:38

tattoo. Wow, that's

51:40

a white supremacy tattoo.

51:42

He didn't know it was a tattoo, and

51:44

I didn't know it.

51:46

I didn't know it for years

51:48

until I was on TV. The

51:51

guy told you, no, it was down It

51:53

was on TV.

51:54

I was on TV on television.

51:56

The guy looked at me, biker, that's

51:59

a white supremacy tattoo.

52:02

Oh shit, but

52:05

it was free.

52:06

No, but I put it up here. It's it's a homemade

52:09

needle taking needles, put them

52:12

together over a pencil and stick

52:14

it in India ink and then jabbing.

52:17

A good way to stay healthy.

52:18

Yeah, that's what that's that. Yeah, hurt

52:21

down there. So I was going to get it covered

52:23

up, you know, change everything. And my son Paris,

52:25

No, Dad, that's o G.

52:27

That's art.

52:29

It was because one wing's bigger than the other.

52:31

Right, what year was that?

52:33

What year did you get that tattoo?

52:36

That had to be fifty.

52:39

Probably fifty five, fifty six.

52:42

That was twenty years before you were born, twenty

52:44

three actually.

52:47

Fifty Yeah,

52:51

yeah, yeah, I've seen

52:53

a lot real movies

52:55

like Friday, Half Baked, Harold

52:58

and Kumar, all called classics.

53:02

You have to feel like your pioneers and that.

53:04

Well, of course,

53:06

and all those guys come up to us and tell us

53:08

that everybody was in every one of those movies.

53:12

Chris Tucker, you know, I met him. We

53:14

used to you guys all the time,

53:17

you know, you know, we

53:20

we were big in the black community always because

53:23

we grew up in the black community, you

53:25

know, and other other communities.

53:27

But black people really

53:29

related to us. It wasn't just because of the

53:31

weed. It's because we played that kind

53:33

of music and the struggle too, and.

53:36

Yea, and growing up in Calgary

53:38

it was really hard to be around black people.

53:41

Both were.

53:48

There were like five families and

53:51

I swear to God, you know, and then when I

53:54

when I I started dancing

53:56

Lindy hop and of course, my partner

53:59

became the really good dancer

54:02

black girl, and she was the one that introduced me

54:04

to the football player Tommy and

54:06

and and then we had a show one time where

54:08

Tommy her would dance and we'd play

54:10

music, and you know, we did a floor show with

54:12

that, you know. So so my

54:15

introduction was more like schooling,

54:18

you know, because it wasn't just I

54:20

knew.

54:20

Had black friends.

54:21

Man, I had I had a

54:24

Yeah, I got to the point where I got

54:27

my own racist name. You know,

54:29

Hey, chinaman, that's

54:33

what Bob Marley says. That's what when

54:35

we met Bob Marley. Yeah, it was

54:37

in a dressing room with a smoke filled

54:40

and also I hear, hey, chinaman, say

54:42

something funny, man.

54:46

Bob said that on one of his friends.

54:48

No, it was Bobby

54:49

Bob something.

54:56

No, he was on their own deal.

55:00

Everybody else, you know.

55:02

No, we had, we had, no I got

55:05

you know, I earned my my.

55:07

Uh stripes, my.

55:10

My prison sentence. I earned it, man,

55:12

you know, I went through it. And that's why motown.

55:15

You know that when I see smoking smoking,

55:17

it gives me big hugs man, because he knows

55:20

that I was in that secret song

55:22

writing Little Cadre

55:25

club that they have, you know, and I

55:27

got in there. You know, when you get one

55:29

of them motown stars

55:31

to record your song, you.

55:32

Know, everybody recorded, Diana

55:35

Ross, the Jermaine Jackson, Steffan, your

55:37

Mills, the Harlett's, you know who the

55:39

heart Lets are. The they were the backing group for Bete

55:41

Midler, Bette Midler and the har Lets.

55:43

And in that group was uh

55:46

uh was on Katie,

55:49

Katie sagal Kiss from

55:51

Mary with Children, Linda Hart

55:53

who's co starred with my girlfriend

55:56

in tin Cup and the some the

55:58

Norwegian or a Swede girl. But

56:01

they recorded and had to hit how does

56:03

your Mama.

56:03

Know about me?

56:05

You guys obviously came out the gates with once

56:08

you connected with a lot of success.

56:10

You guys parted ways for a while.

56:11

We don't have to get into that part, but I want to ask

56:14

you guys as being able to come back together,

56:16

what did you learn about yourself during

56:18

your guys' time apart?

56:22

Well, you can't make it in California with out of

56:24

Mexican.

56:29

I mean, I don't care what you're doing.

56:32

I don't care what you're doing.

56:34

And it took him that long to figure it out.

56:38

And sometimes you say are

56:40

you Mexican and the guy will go, okay,

56:46

say he's from Guatemala. There's

56:51

there's racism amongst the clans.

56:55

It goes everywhere.

56:57

Yeah, yeah, no, I uh.

57:01

I appreciate the fact that

57:03

we broke up long enough so

57:05

that we could become individuals, you

57:08

know, instead of just being

57:11

you know, relying on someone

57:13

there that's always there. You know, this

57:15

way you have to do both parts yourself.

57:18

More or less.

57:19

And I appreciate

57:22

that and I respect it too, you know, I

57:24

respect the

57:27

the the aloneness.

57:28

Yea, being able to stand on your loan, yeah,

57:30

on your own. They come back together just makes it strong

57:33

strong.

57:34

It's like we you know, when we came back

57:36

together, it was like we never left,

57:38

right and it was like it said, come

57:40

down here and join me in this club in La Joya.

57:43

They were you and so we were doing the club and

57:45

I said, come on and just sit in with

57:47

us. Okay. So but they

57:49

go on stairs they started, and then then then I

57:51

don't know if you've even announced it, and I just came

57:53

through the audience and God, remember

57:56

they went crazy, God said, and

57:59

we rehearsed.

58:00

Never even talked about you guys. First time back together.

58:03

Yeah, in twenty.

58:04

Years and and he

58:06

just killed it. You know, it's

58:09

okay, like you never.

58:10

Left, like we never left.

58:11

I've read it times.

58:12

You guys would you know, kind of have some conflict

58:14

off the stage, but when you came together for your act,

58:16

it was like no one would ever know. And

58:19

what do you guys attribute that to? Just your willingness

58:21

to get the job done or agreed?

58:26

Agreed, I indulged.

58:29

You know, you're doing fine, dad, but you know what

58:31

you could make of Cheat and Chong were And

58:35

so my son actually got us back together because

58:38

we had a meeting and it didn't go that well.

58:40

You know, we had an old argument came out.

58:43

But then I text Cheat

58:45

and I said, you know, it was said,

58:47

hadn't seen you for a while. It was really nice seeing you,

58:49

you know, too bad we couldn't work things

58:52

out. Well, my son intercepted

58:54

my email and he wrote

58:56

his own in my mind, he

58:58

don't do anything, and he

59:02

let's get together and we can do

59:04

this and everything else. And so then

59:06

my son told me he said,

59:08

first of all, he said how to go with not

59:10

so he's he's coming

59:12

over. You're back together, beautiful,

59:15

it's happening. Then

59:17

he told me what he did. I got

59:20

your email, and

59:22

I'm glad he did tell you. Some in the world

59:24

says thank you.

59:25

Yeah, my wife

59:27

got ahold of my emails one time and did some things

59:29

she shouldn't have did. So luckily

59:32

your guys worked out in a different way.

59:37

I've heard those stories. We

59:39

used to talk before they roll the film that sometimes

59:42

the movies will be talking blah blah blah.

59:45

They got the camera rolling.

59:46

Here we see

59:48

it at daily.

59:49

You know. That's funny.

59:51

U stigmas throughout over the years

59:53

about cannabis, and and how

59:56

do you feel that the progress, you

59:58

know, over the last few decades.

1:00:00

It's it's it's you know, it's everyday

1:00:02

used. I mean's which is

1:00:05

more popular?

1:00:05

Bear weed?

1:00:07

Weed?

1:00:08

Weed?

1:00:08

You know.

1:00:09

I mean it's

1:00:11

it crosses every single

1:00:13

line, the race, gender,

1:00:17

anything, old, young. I

1:00:19

mean, you know there's guys that are one hundred

1:00:22

years old.

1:00:22

Still smoking weed.

1:00:23

You know.

1:00:23

So it's just it just enters

1:00:26

into every and and the fact

1:00:28

that it does changes your perception.

1:00:30

Well, it's it's yeah,

1:00:32

it's a burning bush

1:00:36

A good path for that. Yeah, it's a burning bush

1:00:38

that is mentioned in the Bible, you

1:00:40

know, when Moses took a hit at the burning.

1:00:44

And God talked to him and God

1:00:46

said, hey, mo,

1:00:50

past that snoop. This

1:00:53

buds for juice.

1:01:05

And that's how it got in the Bible.

1:01:10

Well, the Bible was written on him paper.

1:01:12

Yeah, there, all the signs

1:01:15

were there, and.

1:01:15

It was medicine four thousand

1:01:17

years ago and it's medicine

1:01:20

now.

1:01:20

Still never stopped being. Any of

1:01:22

you guys still consume, Well,

1:01:24

yeah I do.

1:01:25

Yeah, so that's my job now.

1:01:27

So after we can consume together.

1:01:29

Oh yeah, so I just want to got

1:01:31

to say, blaze one up

1:01:33

with.

1:01:35

That.

1:01:35

Even if we just blow the smoke on you.

1:01:39

Blowed up his butt.

1:01:42

Jat, mind don't work anymore, got

1:01:44

that job.

1:01:47

One question, the strength of

1:01:49

the plant from when you guys first started

1:01:51

getting it used to be hard to kind of come across a good weed

1:01:53

back then. Obviously you guys

1:01:55

always had it. You guys kept I said, Mexican

1:01:58

weed man.

1:02:00

But the strength from then to now.

1:02:02

It's much stronger now, I mean much stronger

1:02:04

because they're they're breeding it for that. You

1:02:06

know, they didn't weed was weed. You get

1:02:08

a brick like that was a good rat in the middle of

1:02:11

you. Yeah,

1:02:14

we especially bred this no

1:02:17

it was just you got whatever it was in there. But

1:02:20

now let's specifically blending

1:02:22

it for raising it.

1:02:24

Do you like some of the strong stuff?

1:02:26

Oh?

1:02:26

You like some strong stuff, yeah, because you don't have to take

1:02:28

as much.

1:02:28

Yeah, exactly.

1:02:29

When's the last time you bought weed?

1:02:32

Oh?

1:02:34

I was in my youth.

1:02:36

I bought weed.

1:02:38

Twenty sixteen, really

1:02:40

because it was a little vendor thing

1:02:43

and you put money in.

1:02:44

And yeah,

1:02:47

I had to do it.

1:02:48

Really, that's the only time I remember bought I

1:02:51

don't, I can't, I can't remember. I

1:02:53

got a friend now. He's a grove freak,

1:02:55

you know, k

1:02:59

Stacey Keach.

1:03:00

His brother.

1:03:02

James, James James, She's uh,

1:03:04

he's crazy about growing everything. And

1:03:07

so you give him some marijuana seeds. Here,

1:03:10

put this in your garden and see what happens.

1:03:12

He's growing the best weed Malibu.

1:03:16

And James says, yeah, I give it

1:03:18

to my friends and keep coming back for more.

1:03:21

I think the best.

1:03:23

Stay away right because of the

1:03:25

climate.

1:03:25

I don't know what it is, but it's like

1:03:28

Jermichael Vincent, you know who is actor.

1:03:30

So he's it was my buddy and he comes over one

1:03:32

day and he has these two plants. I'm going over

1:03:35

one hundred plants over here in my place, and I

1:03:37

don't give you too great, So put

1:03:40

him and just put him over there outside under the tree,

1:03:42

and I went on tour the

1:03:44

next day. Here a couple of days later, he

1:03:47

gets raided and they got all the

1:03:49

plants. And so these are the only two that survived.

1:03:52

And I didn't do anything to

1:03:54

them. I just put them in pots

1:03:57

in the ground, and I went on tour,

1:03:59

and I came back. They had grown through the bottom of

1:04:01

the pots and now they were eight feet tall. And

1:04:03

Cola is on them that that long man,

1:04:07

and it was like Seaside sent to me, that's what

1:04:09

we called it. Didn't use him in the movie,

1:04:11

yeah, I think so we did.

1:04:12

Yeah, we used him in really

1:04:14

the.

1:04:14

Next movie because I had them, you know that crazy.

1:04:17

Nice dreams, nice dreams with a swimming

1:04:19

pool and and so.

1:04:22

But I didn't do anything none to do

1:04:25

it, you know, not even water.

1:04:28

So wow.

1:04:29

Yeah, So when I have a little

1:04:31

fun with this next segment, I feel

1:04:33

free to just blurred out at the

1:04:35

highest you've ever been, Do you remember where you were?

1:04:37

Who was around? That

1:04:40

wasn't too long ago. I'm

1:04:45

just doing show them.

1:04:46

What the mad your wife business.

1:04:48

Definitely your wife. I like

1:04:50

that.

1:04:53

The birth birthday story, your

1:04:56

birthday, the seventy birthday

1:04:58

when I turned seventy,

1:05:02

we had my son took care

1:05:04

of the dessert and he had it all

1:05:06

medicated, but he didn't tell anybody ship

1:05:09

and we never served enough food. So

1:05:11

when the dessert came, every was

1:05:14

starving, and so everybody

1:05:16

dove into the edibles and

1:05:20

next thing you know, there are people throwing

1:05:22

up all over the place, and

1:05:24

and and they couldn't figure out what's

1:05:27

going on.

1:05:30

Oh, it was just crazy.

1:05:32

Uh.

1:05:33

Paul Riser and his wife were there,

1:05:36

and next thing you know, Uh,

1:05:39

Paris is my son's ex girlfriend,

1:05:42

kind of wild young chick. She's

1:05:44

in there promoting a threesome

1:05:47

with Paul and.

1:05:50

They're going for it. Everybody's

1:05:53

going for it.

1:05:54

So it was crazy. Oh

1:05:58

it was. It was fun. Wow,

1:06:02

it's going to be a bio pick. We're going to

1:06:04

do a movie. I love it because

1:06:07

that's what from now on, after we

1:06:09

release our documentary, it'll

1:06:11

be biopics and we'll go back

1:06:13

and cheach his history, my history, you know, right

1:06:17

back to the Aztecs and.

1:06:20

Africans.

1:06:20

You know.

1:06:21

If you guys ever need a great

1:06:23

guy right here, My got Deon Taylor.

1:06:25

This is his office.

1:06:25

But he makes movies. He makes the best movies here.

1:06:28

Yeah, if you need some help,

1:06:31

you need to stone the brother in the movie.

1:06:33

I'm ready, Yeah, I'm

1:06:37

ready.

1:06:40

That's the only problem.

1:06:41

Yeah, right

1:06:43

here, Remember you used to have the holes right here?

1:06:46

Who would want to smoke off? And you're back in

1:06:48

your heyday and you guys in your heyday. Between

1:06:51

you guys Snoop, Willie

1:06:54

Nelson, whiz Khalifa.

1:06:56

Be real, who would

1:06:58

we want to know?

1:06:59

Who would who would? Oh?

1:07:02

When you guys in your heyday?

1:07:04

What do you think.

1:07:05

Maybe neither one of us

1:07:07

were. It's all an act,

1:07:09

man, I

1:07:11

swear it

1:07:14

was all on that I got a

1:07:16

little breath mint that I

1:07:18

do now it's only tell

1:07:20

me the ground, you know, and that

1:07:23

that will anymore

1:07:25

to put my ass.

1:07:28

But even back in your guys younger days.

1:07:30

It wasn't about the quantity

1:07:32

of the quantity, was about the quality.

1:07:35

Yeah, because people will

1:07:37

give us stuff all the time. That's why

1:07:39

I've never bought any weeding in these years,

1:07:41

man, because like the mountains of it wherever you go.

1:07:44

And we're musicians back then, and musicians

1:07:48

you never bought.

1:07:48

People would either give it.

1:07:50

To you or and you just stand next

1:07:52

to the guy that had, you know, waiting

1:07:54

for your turn. You know, back

1:07:58

in the day, they used to

1:08:00

make what they called pinners. It

1:08:04

was a bear one of dust based and

1:08:07

you broined in the tiniest

1:08:09

little pinner. But it would be good

1:08:11

for musicians because you didn't

1:08:13

get too stone. You know, you just get

1:08:15

that little buzz, that little memory, because

1:08:18

that's all you need.

1:08:19

Remember, Pat Mariner used

1:08:21

to keep that little folding pipe in his in

1:08:24

his underwear.

1:08:25

One hitter.

1:08:26

Yeah, there was a little pipe and they had Pat

1:08:28

Marina. You know, I've heard the name after mister

1:08:31

Miyagi.

1:08:32

He was.

1:08:32

He was a stand up the

1:08:35

hip nip that was his. It was Japanese

1:08:38

crazy.

1:08:39

What used to fly, not to cut you off?

1:08:40

What used to fly back then like what you can say

1:08:42

and what you can and has evolved

1:08:45

into like you can't really say anything right now. I've

1:08:49

heard his boy,

1:08:51

Red Fox, Pat Marina.

1:08:54

Yeah, yeah, they were

1:08:56

all in that same thing.

1:08:57

Well Red Red give him money, yeah

1:09:01

something, get him some money. Yeah,

1:09:03

yeah, I remember that.

1:09:05

Yeah.

1:09:05

He was kind of a mentor a little bit you know

1:09:07

when we first met him, to us because he

1:09:10

was a professional comedian at the time.

1:09:12

He did something to me that I'll never

1:09:14

forget. Man, the night before

1:09:17

I'm going into jail, I

1:09:19

just finished talking to my lawyer, who

1:09:21

actually told me I can't

1:09:23

talk now. I'm watching the Laker game and

1:09:26

he hung up on me. Next

1:09:28

thing I know, I get a call, phone rings. I pick

1:09:30

it up. It's pat Rita and

1:09:33

he's mister mcgogg

1:09:38

and he says, you're gonna be okay, You're

1:09:40

gonna be fine, you know, just

1:09:42

take it, do what you gotta do, you

1:09:44

know, And he just gave me that. It was pep

1:09:47

up serendipity.

1:09:49

I knew the time he was going to be okay in jail

1:09:51

too. I mean I knew he was good, he'd be fine. It's because

1:09:54

he grew up with those people. I mean, so

1:09:56

did I. My dad was a cop man, so I grew up

1:09:58

with all the juveni of delinquents, you know, so you

1:10:00

know how to navigate.

1:10:01

We were in jail together one time.

1:10:03

Really tell us about

1:10:05

it.

1:10:07

They busted Jim Morrison earlier because

1:10:10

he showed his wiener on cheat in the stage,

1:10:12

you know, and so

1:10:15

they and it got dropped

1:10:17

for lack of evidence by this, and

1:10:24

so they came up with a five thousand

1:10:26

dollars performance bond, and

1:10:29

if we got any trouble on stage

1:10:31

at all, the promoter got five thousand

1:10:34

dollars. And so with Cheech

1:10:36

and John, they thought for sure they're going to grab some

1:10:38

money. And so we we did our whole

1:10:40

show and no problem except at

1:10:42

the end, and the cops were lining

1:10:44

in the stage as if they were

1:10:46

the crowd was going to riot or something, you know,

1:10:50

And so we're doing the dogs and cheeches

1:10:52

on his hands and knees and he walks over to

1:10:54

one of the cops that were facing away from them

1:10:57

and picked the cops hat up with his

1:10:59

teeth like a dog running

1:11:02

back. Well, the cop did

1:11:04

not think that was funny. And

1:11:08

so they're on the phones and we're gonna we're

1:11:10

busting Cheech and Chong, and then all the

1:11:12

cops started, Hey, I want to bust him.

1:11:13

I got all their records. Alright,

1:11:16

let me be a part of this.

1:11:18

So they ended up taking us to jail.

1:11:21

And at first, you know, we're still off the show.

1:11:23

We're still happy. And after

1:11:25

a while we're sitting there

1:11:27

with all these other people.

1:11:29

Man, they kept dragging people into the hole in

1:11:31

selled unconscious.

1:11:32

And for

1:11:34

drunks, you're sitting that sail, the highs

1:11:36

start coming down.

1:11:38

Well yeah, oh.

1:11:41

Yeah, and then they separated us.

1:11:43

At first Cheech was being funny, this

1:11:47

guy blonde cop, you know, and

1:11:49

he goes, oh, jail tend, oh

1:11:53

jail could we have some pink

1:11:58

guys.

1:11:59

In jail man?

1:12:01

And then next thing, you know, the guy the jolt

1:12:03

and deacons up the teachings that you come with

1:12:05

me, and all

1:12:07

I heard Chief saying, uh,

1:12:10

my dad's a cop.

1:12:11

You know, I got that

1:12:13

out of it. You get in the elevator, you gonn take

1:12:15

it up to the second floor. It puts you in the solf And

1:12:17

you get in the elevator. It's like, you know, metal

1:12:20

the whole thing, and there's big dance all

1:12:22

over this fucking thing, man, but on every

1:12:24

wall, and this guy's looking at me. And

1:12:28

you get up to the second floor and it's noisy and

1:12:31

it's hot and it's fully lit

1:12:34

and and everybody's okay.

1:12:36

Here you go.

1:12:37

No, don't put me in the lion cage.

1:12:41

She got real yeah off al quick,

1:12:43

you guys kind of crossing so many barriers

1:12:46

on your rise to fame. Who were some

1:12:48

people that you thought like, damn, I'm smoking

1:12:50

with. Obviously they probably thought that about

1:12:52

you guys, But were you guys in awe of anybody? You know,

1:12:54

you just told a quick Bob Marley story, but anybodys

1:12:56

You guys were in off when you guys got a chance

1:12:58

to sit.

1:12:59

Down to smoke up with

1:13:01

George Harrison all the time? George,

1:13:04

Oh, George, Yeah,

1:13:07

George's cool guy.

1:13:08

One day I'm smoking.

1:13:10

We're smoking, and next thing you know, the

1:13:12

joint gets passed over to Tony

1:13:14

Dow. You know, Tony leave it to

1:13:16

leave it to be.

1:13:18

He was walling, he was.

1:13:22

And he turned out to be, Uh, what do you

1:13:24

call a sculptor? He's an artist,

1:13:26

you know. And so the three of us were there

1:13:28

smoking away. We got George

1:13:31

played.

1:13:32

On Huh.

1:13:37

What tune did George Harrison play on

1:13:40

our Basketball Jones?

1:13:41

Basketball Jones talk about basketball joint?

1:13:44

George play the intro because he

1:13:46

was in the studio at the same time we were. And

1:13:48

so, hey, George, do the intro?

1:13:51

All right?

1:13:52

And they said, do you think they're cheaching tongue?

1:13:54

And what do you say?

1:13:55

Someone said, what do you think of cheach? And Chong and

1:13:58

George is I suppose the funny.

1:14:01

My favorite guy.

1:14:02

Was Kareem I'm doing bar and

1:14:06

with this the showtime days.

1:14:08

Yeah yeah right yeah.

1:14:09

And and and uh my

1:14:12

wife and I Ricky We we lived in his house

1:14:14

when I was making up and smoke because

1:14:16

I didn't want to go all the way out to the beach every day. And

1:14:18

I was like, because my call was early. So he moved

1:14:21

us into his guest house back there. But he

1:14:23

has always been a friend. And but

1:14:27

he had a long reach. They

1:14:29

could reach across the table.

1:14:30

Man.

1:14:31

One time we took him to Dharmo grab this Morocco

1:14:33

restaurant and they bring all this food, a

1:14:35

whole chicken, and he reaches over the whole and

1:14:37

he grabs the whole chicken. It looks like that in

1:14:40

his hand.

1:14:40

Round.

1:14:40

Okay, thank you very much. What you guys his

1:14:45

mind? What are you guys gonna eat?

1:14:46

No, it really is a very smart intelligence.

1:14:49

We would exchange weed if

1:14:51

we had different weed. And one day,

1:14:53

in fact, the day that

1:14:56

Elvis Presley died, I

1:14:58

got a call from Korean almost

1:15:00

the same time. I'm much on TV and Elvis

1:15:03

is dead. Cream says, hey, man, come on

1:15:05

down. I got some weed, and so

1:15:07

I walked down. I'll live down the street

1:15:09

from him. I walked down and I got

1:15:11

to the to the mailbox

1:15:14

and I went to ring the bell and the mailbox

1:15:17

lid opened up and this big

1:15:19

hand colern with a bag.

1:15:21

Of weed at

1:15:23

the end.

1:15:24

And I said, no, thank you, I

1:15:27

never saw.

1:15:30

You. Just want to give me some weeds.

1:15:34

Okay, cream.

1:15:35

It was like Lurch came out, Yes,

1:15:37

you're not dressed yet, Okay,

1:15:40

I'll take this back to my house.

1:15:41

Yeah, but it wasn't that weird. Alvis

1:15:44

died and soon after they

1:15:46

have no Everything on television

1:15:48

was Elvis and my daughter's friend

1:15:51

was Lisa Marie. They were

1:15:53

best friends at the time. And

1:15:55

so they're showing Elvis on TV

1:15:57

and I'm sitting there and my precious,

1:16:00

my daughter and and Lisa are playing in

1:16:02

the behind us. And when

1:16:04

when they showed their dad, I kind of looked to see how

1:16:07

Lisa would react to her dad.

1:16:10

She just glanced at her a little bit. Then she

1:16:14

did not relate to that guy.

1:16:16

Wow, it was weird.

1:16:18

So insad.

1:16:21

Coming up? Who is your first celebrity crushes?

1:16:24

Celebrity crush, crush.

1:16:25

Celebrity crush? Wow?

1:16:28

Celebrity crush.

1:16:31

Who was the first guy you went out with?

1:16:39

It makes more sense why we dress, because

1:16:41

we act.

1:16:43

Just like dress.

1:16:50

There's a reason celebrity crush.

1:16:52

God, I don't know Annette from

1:16:55

the Musketeers. She's

1:16:58

developing there.

1:17:04

Mine would be Susan Saradon.

1:17:07

Really remind

1:17:09

me who who is she?

1:17:13

Baby Atlantic City?

1:17:16

Yeah, okay, that's her.

1:17:17

That's her real name. Yeah, Rocky

1:17:19

Horseshow Rocky horse Show?

1:17:22

She was the original? Interesting?

1:17:24

Yeah, so I see why he didn't get your name

1:17:26

right for a low wao.

1:17:27

Right, I'm used to right.

1:17:31

One of your guys's favorite snacks or

1:17:33

munchie When you guys are really on, what's

1:17:35

what's the go to snack?

1:17:38

I can tell you now because I used to be actuated.

1:17:44

I like ice cream, ice cream.

1:17:46

I like the ice cream.

1:17:46

It's bad for it, but I like it.

1:17:51

Pustachio nuts

1:17:53

interesting because I

1:17:56

was about say healthy on the healthy side for

1:17:59

the eyes, and there they're salty so that it

1:18:01

makes you thirsty.

1:18:01

So we forgot to ask

1:18:04

you about your daughter?

1:18:05

Which one right here?

1:18:08

Legend?

1:18:09

Yeah, yeah, she's here, she's

1:18:11

here. She's uh having

1:18:14

a struggle with

1:18:16

her career. Now you know a little bit. You

1:18:18

know, she hasn't worked for a

1:18:20

while, but she's here and she's

1:18:22

doing well and she's happy.

1:18:26

About it.

1:18:27

She always she's she's

1:18:30

the most talented of

1:18:32

the gang. You know, I always

1:18:34

has been right from the beginning.

1:18:36

She was crazy.

1:18:38

She's to give advice

1:18:40

at three years old, advice.

1:18:44

Right, life advice.

1:18:45

You know, she's what the bo

1:18:48

Diddley called him, managed boy,

1:18:49

and he managed

1:18:52

you know, the manash boy. Yeah what

1:18:55

what what would be the girl?

1:18:57

I don't know, the girlish man bossy

1:19:00

bossy.

1:19:03

No, she's good and her her son,

1:19:06

Morgan, is doing really well. And

1:19:08

Morgan married Chinese girls. So

1:19:10

I got uhcross grand.

1:19:15

Rainbow retrogreeding

1:19:17

raw beautiful.

1:19:19

Oh, I got, I got a beautiful,

1:19:21

beautiful family. Now as

1:19:23

does Chech too.

1:19:26

That's as crazy as this world is.

1:19:29

Who do you two guys think will benefit from smoking?

1:19:32

Oh?

1:19:34

From smoking?

1:19:35

My mother in law, Bob,

1:19:41

my mother in law. Yeah, she

1:19:44

because because my

1:19:46

wife is Russian born in Reisling. So my

1:19:49

mother in law speaks no English, and

1:19:51

she's always honest

1:19:54

about something or and we but she she

1:19:57

roam's defrigerator, She opens refrigerators,

1:20:00

stands in front of for an hour and looks to

1:20:02

see so whateverything. And so we had

1:20:04

some some edibles out there in the

1:20:06

desert and her sister and her daughter

1:20:08

tells him to do whatever you do, don't don't eat anything

1:20:10

in the refrigerator, just you know, ask me and I'll

1:20:13

get it for you. We come one day

1:20:15

around the desert.

1:20:16

She was in front of the fresser.

1:20:17

Looking and chewing at

1:20:19

the same time, and she found the brownies. Man

1:20:21

went fucking right to She's

1:20:23

like, you old and rust can't

1:20:26

uh and so and

1:20:29

so uh, Natasha, my wife

1:20:31

tells him what she did. I said, so, so what

1:20:33

should we do? She says, well, let's see what happens.

1:20:37

And so she was just like cool. So there

1:20:39

was time to drive her home and

1:20:41

and he says, wow, how

1:20:44

long is Sunset Boulevard? It's

1:20:46

like taking every day,

1:20:48

And.

1:20:50

So we did.

1:20:51

After after a while we told her and

1:20:54

she got this kind of glimming gleaming her

1:20:56

eye and where

1:20:58

was that again? I would is that

1:21:00

the candy or the thing? So she wanted to

1:21:02

go, but she she freaked the

1:21:05

most surprised I've ever been in my

1:21:07

life.

1:21:08

She speaks no English, no English.

1:21:10

I mean, she's been here twenty some years and

1:21:13

to say I want a glass of water. It's half

1:21:15

an hour to get that out. And so

1:21:18

we're at the durnwhere

1:21:21

at the table, and I went out and got some Chinese

1:21:23

food, came back, distributed

1:21:25

all around eating Chinese food.

1:21:27

It was great at the end.

1:21:28

And I see her reach into the bag with the fortune

1:21:30

cookies and she pulls the one out

1:21:32

and cracks it and whip out the thing and say,

1:21:34

and we call her Bob. And in Russian

1:21:37

grandmother is Babushka, not Babushka.

1:21:40

Babushka. So I ain't saying that every

1:21:42

time. So you're Bob now. And so

1:21:45

he says, hey, Bob, what does your fortune say? She

1:21:47

goes, you will have a

1:21:49

very auspicious day today as

1:21:51

the third trimester of you. But the

1:21:54

fuck? And

1:21:56

I said, well, this is a setup, man, you

1:21:58

know it's this. And her hear your daughter read

1:22:01

another one, what.

1:22:04

A glorious day,

1:22:06

reads the whole thing.

1:22:08

That's in hard language too. She

1:22:11

took English in

1:22:13

college in in

1:22:15

in in Russia. She can read it but

1:22:17

doesn't understand what she was reading, but

1:22:20

read it perfectly.

1:22:21

And I sat there like, and

1:22:24

she can use firearms, right.

1:22:26

Oh, Yeah, she's a great shot and can

1:22:28

throwing acts too, KGB.

1:22:32

That's what I'm thinking, KGB.

1:22:34

I believe it in America, I

1:22:36

believe.

1:22:37

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

1:22:39

Those are her book club meetings.

1:22:41

She goes to book club meetings and sharpens her tools.

1:22:44

Yeah, that's what she does. Funny

1:22:47

because her family old geniuses.

1:22:50

Did you guys have a particular

1:22:52

strain you liked in your heyday?

1:22:54

I liked weed just in general.

1:22:56

That's it.

1:22:57

That might call weed.

1:22:58

I like that one.

1:22:58

My favorite was anything given

1:23:01

to me by a naked woman?

1:23:03

Even better, I feel you.

1:23:05

What was your guys's favorite movie?

1:23:06

You guys?

1:23:07

Did each of you guys your favorite movie

1:23:10

we did together?

1:23:10

Yeah?

1:23:11

Together up in Smoke, Up

1:23:13

Smoke.

1:23:13

I mean it's the first one. Yeah,

1:23:16

yeah, what do you like?

1:23:17

Abe?

1:23:19

I like them all liked I

1:23:21

liked them all. I liked, uh

1:23:24

yeah, all of them. All of them had something.

1:23:27

Up in Smoke had everything.

1:23:29

While this place you've been on vacation Pakoma.

1:23:37

Wild?

1:23:37

Where's the wildest place you've been on vacation?

1:23:40

You've been a bunch of places.

1:23:43

I'm not joking, I'm.

1:23:44

Not It was a vacation, like you know, with palm

1:23:46

trees and ship.

1:23:47

Well to me Pulau

1:23:50

into the island of Pao. That's

1:23:52

off Guam. It's two

1:23:55

hundred miles from Guam and

1:23:57

it's it's uh skin

1:23:59

cat little you know.

1:24:01

You can.

1:24:03

Those giant shells that you see in Disney

1:24:05

movies, you know, climbshills.

1:24:08

I was out with a local Wini with his boat and I

1:24:10

found a climb show and struggle

1:24:13

with it, got it up, you know. I had a swim

1:24:15

underneath the water. He got it up, put

1:24:17

it in the boat. I went back

1:24:19

down. All of a sudden, I hear a splash my

1:24:22

show the boat. Captain.

1:24:24

No, I don't want that ship in my boat.

1:24:27

He's threw it up.

1:24:29

No, that was crazy, like a very

1:24:32

very native.

1:24:33

I like Costa Rica. I

1:24:35

used to go to Costa Rica a lot. It's

1:24:37

real jungle, you know where we used to go. So that

1:24:40

was cool.

1:24:42

This is the final question. If you could

1:24:44

see one guest on our show, who

1:24:46

would it be on your

1:24:49

show?

1:24:52

Who'd you want on their show?

1:24:53

Ray Don Alli

1:24:56

Wong Ali Wong.

1:24:59

Yeah, she would be good.

1:25:01

There you go, There you

1:25:04

go.

1:25:04

So you might

1:25:06

have to a few. But it's the second

1:25:08

part of the question. You have to help

1:25:10

us get your answer on the show. Yeah,

1:25:13

oh yeah, sure, yeah.

1:25:17

Probably.

1:25:18

Cassandra Peterson. Cassandra

1:25:21

Peterson is Alvira.

1:25:24

She was part of the Groundings. Oh really,

1:25:26

she was one of the original Groundings and

1:25:29

she was also a Las Vegas showgirl used

1:25:31

to with e us.

1:25:32

Oh yeah, yeah,

1:25:37

being the Yeah.

1:25:39

Oh man, it's a beautiful

1:25:41

girl.

1:25:41

Man.

1:25:42

Yeah, you would get a lot of stories

1:25:44

out of her.

1:25:45

That's cool.

1:25:46

Well, man, we appreciate you guys this time.

1:25:48

Thank you.

1:25:49

Uh, it was an honor to be able to sit down and share

1:25:51

some time for you.

1:25:52

Man.

1:25:52

That's a rat burn one cheech and chong.

1:25:55

You can catch this on all the Smoke Productions

1:25:58

and DraftKings Network. We'll

1:26:00

see y'all next week.

1:26:01

Be's Out.