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2:07

Welcome backplug Jack. What's

2:09

good?

2:10

What's up my brother? How you doing out there? On the west side.

2:12

Man you already know just could fresh out the gym. Uh

2:16

ready to knock this out, so I go take a shower. We

2:18

had a good run last week with Gilly. Uh

2:21

that's our guy, burnt out

2:24

but love her. We're gonna start doing that more

2:26

often, having people come through chop

2:28

with us, chop it up with us throughout the show.

2:30

So make sure you guys stay locked in with

2:32

that.

2:33

Jack.

2:33

You got a big weekend coming up Oak Hill the

2:35

Hall of Fame, first and foremost, congratulations.

2:39

A lot of other names will be up there and inducted

2:41

with you. Talk to us about that experience

2:43

and how it came about.

2:44

Thanks Bro. It means a lot for

2:46

me. That's this really something that I wanted, Matt.

2:50

Okay is one of the most prestigious high schools,

2:52

and uh, you know a lot of stuff

2:54

that I did, mistakes that I made over

2:57

overshadowed, a lot of the basketball that I great basketball

2:59

that so to be acknowledged by Okill,

3:02

to get my jersey retired, it means everything to me.

3:04

With guys like Kadi Rondo, uh

3:06

Ty Laws and Steve Blake, you know, it's

3:09

a number of guys.

3:10

Jeff McGinnis.

3:10

So, I'm just honored to be getting my jersey

3:13

retired by such a prestigious school and honorable

3:15

coach.

3:15

Well deserved, bro.

3:16

So, I mean that goes along with the Obviously that'll

3:19

probably jump the because you got your jersey

3:21

retarded in a couple of strip clubs, I know, so that'll

3:23

probably this will jump that.

3:26

No, no, no question. Uh

3:28

my jerseys that's retired in the three strip clubs.

3:31

Just getting just three strip clubs and my jersey retired

3:33

in those are gonna those

3:35

are gonna come down out the rafters

3:37

and the okill.

3:38

When it is definitely going up, well,

3:41

good luck, man, I'm sorry I won't be able to make it out

3:43

to that.

3:44

We got some stuff going on here in LA.

3:46

But yeah, it ain't gonna be out there that

3:48

weekend too.

3:49

I mean this is just a warm up.

3:50

We're really gonna do it, so, uh, don't worry

3:52

about what'll hold it down, and I'm sure you're gonna hold it down,

3:55

Jack. Great interview with Pat McAfee

3:57

during All Stars that we took edibles. We took

4:00

Mike Tyson ears with

4:02

them a lot of games. Told us about

4:04

his story about his journey. Someone you've already knew.

4:06

You guys got you know, a great history. So that's

4:09

gonna be a dope interview that's dropping this Thursday.

4:12

A lot of these older sports media

4:14

folks aren't the biggest fan of me, and they've

4:16

certainly made that known.

4:17

Yeah, and we've had some we've had

4:19

what you know, why right, because a lot

4:21

of them wanted to do what you're doing now on ESPN.

4:24

Yeah, they weren't allowed to, is what it wasn't allowed

4:26

to You think I was allowed to though, Like, that's the whole part.

4:28

Of you had the you had I ain't gonna say balls, you have the

4:30

confidence in yourself to be able to get it done

4:32

without worry about what other people gonna say. I think

4:34

it didn't happen for them because they came

4:36

in more like, well I want to do this, you

4:39

said I'm doing this instead I want

4:41

to do this.

4:41

That's that's a big difference.

4:42

Hey, I'm a fucking asshold of those suits too, Like they

4:45

do not like me, But you got to be it

4:47

is because when I retired,

4:50

I had, like, I mean, stack, you knew this because

4:52

you knew I existed that not a lot of people outside of Indiana

4:55

did. When I retired, I had like

4:57

like seven hundred and fifty thousand followers. I

5:00

had done like twenty seven stand up comedy

5:02

shows and theaters with like six thousand seats,

5:04

and I going on like a tour, had a podcast,

5:07

had a merch store, had a chance to do Bob

5:09

and Tom, which is here in Indianapolis. So like I got

5:11

a chance to kind of understand the broadcasting waves.

5:13

ESPN said we got nothing for you Fox, and

5:16

we got nothing for you CBS and we got nothing

5:18

for you. We don't want to hear a punter who's

5:20

been arrested that swears, who's

5:23

an Internet guy?

5:24

That kind

5:27

of guy.

5:27

That's what these suits though, did not say that right.

5:29

So like had to go through the barstool route. But

5:31

we kept our own company in Indiana. Learned

5:34

a lot about the Internet through them.

5:36

That was like a university of how digital

5:38

works. So then as we as

5:41

I kind of realized in our boys, we kind of

5:43

realized, like, we can do this ourselves.

5:45

We don't need them.

5:46

And then now we're coming back to the point where

5:49

I'm negotiating with like Amazon,

5:51

I'm negotiating with NBC, I'm negotiating

5:54

with Apple, I'm negotiating with ESPN.

5:56

It's like all those same middle management

5:58

people five years ago, six years

6:01

ago, we got nothing for you. And

6:03

it's like, I remember.

6:04

That big shout out to Ryan Clark, Jack friend

6:06

of the program, he read up with ESPN,

6:09

used his leverage, went public

6:11

on social media talking about he was a free agent, and

6:15

they made it work. And I think these bigger

6:17

networks and companies are understanding like they don't

6:19

have the leverage they used to have, Like people

6:21

can run off and do their own thing, you know what I mean.

6:24

And I definitely think they got this right.

6:27

Ryan Clark not only does a great dude, but one of the

6:29

best in the business. The way he breaks

6:31

it down, the way he dresses, he might be the best dresser

6:33

in the game. But I shout out our brother Ryan

6:36

Clark.

6:37

Yeah, he's definitely one of the faces of ESPN.

6:39

So whatever he got, he definitely deserved it more.

6:42

Yeah, no doubt, no doubt Jack.

6:43

I got a chance to check out Juju

6:45

Watkins in person the other night.

6:48

Is she the truth? Oh?

6:49

She's unbelievable dog and

6:51

she plays on both ends. But I was

6:53

telling Jolani before we started, like, bro, she gets

6:55

in her little triple threat breaks him down and gets

6:58

one or two dribbles and with two people on her

7:00

face off the glass or gets cut

7:02

off on the baseline and does that Kobe reverse

7:04

pivot fatal like she brought and she's

7:06

only eighteen. I was blown away

7:08

at just her poise, the way she shot

7:11

the ball. She was like nineteen for nineteen from

7:13

the free throw line. Like she's just on another level,

7:15

bro. So we will hopefully

7:17

have some good things cooking up with her soon.

7:19

But shut out Juju Man. That was a great opportunity

7:22

and it kind of leads me into my next point.

7:25

And we talked about it last week or the week before. Women's

7:28

college basketball is bigger than

7:31

men's college basketball right now. It has more

7:33

star recognizable faces, the

7:36

final four gets higher ratings. Let's

7:39

break that down and what's that shift,

7:42

Ben and why?

7:44

Well, for me, I think it's shifted

7:46

because the women

7:49

are getting more talented, you know, but the women BASKETBA

7:51

players are way more talented, and they're they're getting

7:53

better and better by the year. Players like Caitlyn

7:55

Clark, like the way she's scoring, the way she's

7:57

shooting, like she has a lot

7:59

of stuff that you can't teach in the game along

8:01

with that unbelievable confidence. And Juju

8:03

is the same thing. You know, Juju just have more stuff

8:06

off the ball. She's more of a complete player. So I

8:09

like all these girls. I'm a big fan of

8:12

Raving in South Carolina and Don Staley what they're

8:14

doing in South Carolina too. So I just think

8:16

for us man, we're seeing the

8:18

talent on the on the on the women's side

8:21

go up to a high level. They dunking and all that stuff

8:23

now, So it's way more entertaining than watching

8:25

some of these guys. You know who's going to

8:27

be in college two three years that we know

8:29

that's gonna play at the next level.

8:31

Yeah, you also forgot about Angel Reees. She's

8:33

a munster putting.

8:34

Yes page budget.

8:36

Yeah out here talking shit Paige Becker. Yeah,

8:38

it just kind of is what it is.

8:39

And Jacket, I think the reason is is on

8:41

the men's side, there's so many more

8:43

outlets. You can go play

8:46

overseas, you can go to the G League, Unite,

8:48

you can you know, there's there's more avenues

8:51

to swim. So college isn't getting the

8:54

top players all the time like they used to.

8:55

And that's why.

8:56

I think you know more than ever that the Cinderella

8:58

team the upset you see not off

9:01

brand schools because every you know, you gotta respect everyone,

9:03

but you'll see a school in the final four you wouldn't

9:05

expect because now it's more about chemistry

9:08

and college than individual stars. Although Kentucky

9:10

there are teams to have stars, that's

9:13

not the norm for for the men's game like it

9:15

used to be. So there are just more stars.

9:17

I mean, I think this was probably Kobe's vision

9:19

when Kobe, you know what Kobe saw when he was,

9:22

you know, really advocating for this

9:25

the women's game and getting Gigi out

9:27

there, and you know, he said she brought

9:29

that passion back out. But they were super advocates

9:32

for this game and just really pushing this game. And I

9:34

think he would be really proud to see where

9:36

the women's game is at now. One thing I also

9:38

wanted address, So they got a rule Jack that you got

9:40

to stay you can't be a

9:42

player has to be twenty two years old on

9:45

the on the college women basketball

9:47

side to enter the w NBA.

9:49

What are your thoughts on that.

9:52

You got to be eighteen to go on the army and

9:54

accidentally step on the land mine and blow yourself

9:57

up. So why you can't go, Why you can't

9:59

go support your family and player sport that

10:01

you love that could change your family's life at eighteen,

10:03

it makes no sense to me.

10:05

Yeah, First Team are common sense. I

10:07

think it's a little weird. And again after seeing Juju

10:09

as an eighteen year old freshman knowing that she has

10:11

to play four more years, man, I think she

10:14

needs to get that movement to change that rule. Imagine

10:16

being the person that that that that changes

10:19

the rule on something which would be dope. So

10:23

we'll have to pay attention to that. KD

10:28

got called that. They called him a bitch, right, I think

10:30

the other day in Dallas and

10:31

and and he heard him and he walked up on him

10:34

and they got funny and scary.

10:37

You know.

10:37

He said, fans will look as as humans

10:39

sometimes when you get a chance, you need to let a

10:41

person know how you feel real quick.

10:44

Then then they'll black track. We're

10:46

animals, were circus acts, we're

10:49

entertainment instead of real people. Jack,

10:52

We've always felt like this was an issue.

10:54

We felt we felt heavy racism in Utah

10:57

with the we believe team fans feel like because they

10:59

pay a certain amount and and

11:02

yes them tickets are expensive, but they feel

11:04

like they can say and do what they want. I

11:06

know you're not an advocate of that, but let me know what your

11:08

thoughts are with this KD situation.

11:10

Yeah, the tickets are expensive, but there's

11:12

no price you can play for somebody's life.

11:14

You know what I'm saying.

11:16

Things can turn real sour

11:18

with the wrong words being said because

11:21

you feel a certain way about the team that

11:23

don't even know you, that don't even

11:25

know you a fan, but you feel

11:27

comfortable enough to disrespect somebody that's

11:29

ten times bigger than you just

11:31

because you are a passionate fan. It don't work

11:34

like that all the time because you might walk into a player

11:36

that don't take that. Don't tolerate disrespect, not

11:38

the fans in the players fight. So I think

11:41

players players don't don't

11:44

come out and initially

11:46

disrespect the fans. Yeah I shot,

11:48

I hit a shot at the end of the game, and I beat you out. Yeah,

11:51

fuck y'all, let's get out. You know what I'm saying. But like, they

11:53

don't come out initially, no disc

11:55

fans, So right, it should be mutual.

11:57

Matt, Yeah, I agree, and I think

12:00

this is something that the NBA really has to look into.

12:02

Man, get your ass whipped. Yeah, I mean

12:04

one of the two. Like you said, hopefully it

12:06

doesn't, but it could escalate. I mean you call

12:08

you called them.

12:09

A bitch, you know what I mean?

12:10

And and the NBA is always so worried

12:13

about protecting the fans, but like how much do

12:15

you really protect the product?

12:16

You know what I mean?

12:17

Like you gotta people say some

12:19

crazy things. They throw ship and

12:21

people say you're just supposed to take it because you're an athlete.

12:23

You get paid a lot of No fuck cause you wouldn't take that ship

12:26

in public, or you wouldn't take that at your job. You're sitting

12:28

there at your desk, you want people calling you a bitch

12:30

or fuck you or throwing water bottles at you.

12:32

Like now, you wouldn't like that either, you know what I mean.

12:34

So I don't like when people try to or you guys are making all this

12:36

money put up, but they're like, no motherfucker act right,

12:39

you know what I mean?

12:40

Well, what's that?

12:40

What's what's the next line after somebody say that,

12:43

call you a bitch? What's what's normally the reply? You

12:45

see a bitch? Slap a bitch. That's

12:48

normally a reply and what's next after that?

12:51

Hey, so you can't use that word.

12:58

Uh.

12:59

Draymond had a lot to say about

13:01

Grant Williams. Uh tough guy

13:03

act, jacking, the unwritten rule

13:05

about it.

13:06

If you're up, you're not supposed

13:08

to score.

13:08

Woo woo whoop.

13:10

Uh.

13:10

Did you get a chance to see that Warrior Charlotte

13:12

situation for Grant Williams.

13:14

Yeah, yeah, not not. I get it, I get it, I

13:16

get it.

13:17

But play defense to the game over

13:19

there if that, if you don't want to score too, just

13:22

just play defense.

13:23

Stop. Don't let him score.

13:24

And this is my thing too, Grant, you can't

13:26

you can't be Draymond Green. Okay, see

13:29

this, this is this is a big difference. Okay,

13:31

Draymond Green's on the championship team. He's a four

13:33

time champion, Defensive Player of the Year, all

13:36

he got all these accolades.

13:37

On his team. He came in being this guy.

13:39

Okay, Grant, right now, to me, you're holding

13:42

on to to a badley getting being

13:44

out the league.

13:44

Bro.

13:45

So the best thing for you to do is don't don't do

13:47

because you're not you're really a football player.

13:49

You're not really a basketball player.

13:51

He was involved, like you get you're getting You're getting moved

13:53

around a lot right now because people are seeing you're

13:55

really not a professional basketball player.

13:57

It's just my opinion.

13:58

So don't try to come in and do

14:00

the tough guy role now, because ain't nobody gonna buy

14:02

it, all right, So just just try to

14:04

find a role on the team. Draymond, right, try

14:06

to find a role on the team where you can be

14:09

a rebound or a defender, and try to and try

14:11

to take advantage of the years you have left.

14:13

But being a tough guy does not fit him.

14:15

I think Draymond's thing was like you can't,

14:17

like He's like, this is a real nice guy, Like you can't

14:20

be running for the president of the league

14:22

or whatever the association and then

14:24

be the tough guys. Like those two things don't

14:26

merge. I mean, I don't disagree that he's

14:29

on his way out. I think he's a solid

14:31

role player, but I think he thinks he needs to be

14:33

something that he doesn't. I think if he just goes out

14:35

there, I think in Boston, I don't know his personality, really

14:37

know him. I met him one time, but in Boston

14:39

he was a perfect fit, you know what I mean of

14:41

playing his role, a little bit of toughness and just

14:44

really out there helping your team. But now, and

14:46

this is coming from a motherfuckers that got kicked out the game

14:48

all the time.

14:48

For the shit he's doing.

14:49

But we're we're not the same, you

14:52

know what I mean. Like there's a difference between us and him,

14:54

or you know, him and Draymond. So I

14:56

think Draymond Ray, I think he's talented

14:58

enough to.

14:59

Help it team. Come out and play his role.

15:01

He was integral to me in Boston and when

15:04

he was there, So I agree, Man,

15:06

just come out and play your game. Man, do your thing and let

15:09

your work speak for it. So we'll

15:11

definitely have to see how that goes.

15:15

The Clippers new color

15:17

way uniform that they changed their logo

15:19

going into this new arena. Jack next season,

15:22

you get a chance to see these, check these out. That red one's

15:24

kind of hard. New arena should

15:26

be new everything that's everything. Change

15:28

the name everything, get the Donald's,

15:31

get the donald curling sterling curse

15:33

in the energy off your franchise.

15:35

Especially, they got a chance to win it this year or two. Man,

15:37

you think about.

15:38

It, you got a banner, but change

15:40

the name and get a fresh new start, because

15:43

there's just a lot of bad energy that comes with uh

15:46

the name.

15:47

The ghost of haters, the ghosts of the hater.

15:49

Hater.

15:50

Yeah, so Jack Wenby's

15:52

doing some crazy things right now. Uh

15:55

he did the five by five. For

15:57

those that don't know Jack, break that down real quick.

15:59

So five by five minute you have you have

16:01

you have five statistical categories, so you have

16:03

five or more in each category. So

16:05

say he had twenty points, ten rebounds,

16:08

five blocks, five steals, five rebounds,

16:11

five and six five categories. Yeah, five

16:13

six, five categories. Scary,

16:16

all right, now that's scary. That's scary. He

16:18

did it, almost did it twice, Matt.

16:20

Yeah, that's I mean, the kid is

16:22

nice. I mean everyone wanted to have their

16:24

You got a whole judgment. I mean this kid is special

16:27

to his body, the way he's built, the flexibility,

16:30

the way he locks it, and he got dog in it.

16:32

He's reading before bed. He don't fuck with people.

16:34

He ain't no punk.

16:35

I mean twenty ten and three

16:37

this year. The last player that did that, the

16:40

big Homie, the Big Aristotle Shack

16:42

in two thousand and.

16:44

He got a lieut of Aiton deal.

16:45

He's really was he eighteen nineteen years old, like

16:47

this is I think this is going to be the worst version

16:49

of him. He's going to continue to get better and

16:52

stronger and more understanding

16:54

of the game. Kevin durantsund

16:56

record saying he'll be the best player in the league one day.

16:59

You know, we're we're watching a true unicorn

17:02

in front.

17:02

Of our eyes. And I think it's

17:04

incredible.

17:05

But I also think Jack and I want you to speak to this how

17:08

important him landing in San Antonio was, you

17:10

know what I mean? Having someone like David Robinson there

17:12

before and Tim there before, and they knew how to you

17:14

know. And although this kid that saying a lot,

17:16

this kid may be better than both those guys, and Tim

17:19

is the greatest power forward of all time. So it's just

17:21

like to be able to go into a situation with

17:23

a good organization, with a great coach and

17:25

a solid foundation. If he could have landed in the wrong

17:28

hands and his career could be completely

17:30

different.

17:30

That's the best thing to happened for him was landing

17:33

with Pop because Pop knew how to build

17:35

players, not just as far as their

17:38

body wise and as a basketball

17:40

player, but their confidence and as a man, you

17:42

know, he gonna teach him

17:44

a lot of stuff as to be

17:46

a man that's growing up. But for him, I

17:48

also think that you know, just the

17:51

championship, not just Pop but the

17:53

championship organization that he's going to. They

17:55

know the feeling of going and there, coming in as

17:57

a winner, even though you have it won. You

18:00

go into San Antonio feeling like you'll win and you're

18:02

gonna win. And to the other and

18:04

to the other point, I think he would

18:06

be the best player in the league if he was on

18:08

the team with two other stars right now, we will be calling

18:10

him the best player in the league because this team will

18:12

be probably at the top of the East or West and

18:15

he will be having these same and he'll be having these

18:17

same stats. So if he was on the better team,

18:19

we will be saying he probably is the best player in league right

18:21

now.

18:22

He wemby is, He's tough, he's different,

18:24

and I'm excited to see his growth.

18:28

Jack fan questions, we haven't

18:30

done these in a while. Get it happy

18:32

to get this back on track from

18:36

y se Jung?

18:39

Who is the most unexpected personality

18:41

for an opponent turned teammate? So

18:43

who did you have like an idea

18:46

of and you ended up being

18:48

cool with him.

18:49

Or not cool with him? That's a good question.

18:52

Oh, Mike Dunavy.

18:54

We got traded for each other, and you know he with

18:56

We've come from two different lifestyles, I don't you

18:58

know, two different people, and we

19:01

got traded for each as we go to state in Indiana,

19:03

and we ended up being together in Milwaukee.

19:05

One of the funniest dudes on earth leave the coolest

19:08

shit. Oh, it's super

19:10

cool man. One of the coolest people that

19:12

I've ever met that I thought I wasn't gonna be cool

19:14

with.

19:15

Uh, JJ Redick is mine. You

19:17

know, JJ had not he don't count.

19:19

JJ don't count.

19:20

But I didn't fuck with JJ at all, and like he

19:22

ended up being and I didn't even know him. It was

19:24

just preconceived. I probably motherfuckers

19:27

probably looked at me the same way. They might have looked at both of us

19:29

same way, but I know they looked at me like I won't and

19:32

then they get a chance to meet me like, oh, this dude's coolest

19:34

motherfucker.

19:34

But JJ was that for me.

19:35

So JJ and I played together in Orlando, and I didn't

19:38

know what to expect JJ was

19:40

coolest fuck and then like we uh and then

19:42

we played together again for the Clippers. Like JJ is

19:44

probably one of my closest basketball

19:47

friends that I got from the NBA, and I don't got a lot of them,

19:49

like people like call real friends. You know

19:50

how tight them circles are. But I

19:53

fucked with JJ, But at first it was just that dupe,

19:55

a little narrative. I was like, I fuck JJ UPJ

20:00

jail real, I.

20:00

Love with That's my guy. Go

20:03

ahead, drop.

20:06

At d Mitch twenty six.

20:07

So two, what

20:10

are your feelings about the Cam Newton altercation?

20:18

First and foremost, Cam held it down and

20:20

the hat Cam drugged them, drug

20:22

them. They said Cam had been through so much, the

20:24

worst offensive line car accidents,

20:27

like them little motherfuckers didn't stand a chance.

20:29

Man Cam drugged them. Board shout

20:32

out to the shout out to the kid and the white shirt.

20:34

They came in in the end.

20:35

They came to help Cam when they tried

20:37

to jump on them, and they couldn't even get.

20:39

There, so I couldn't tell.

20:40

So that he was swinging on the kids and swinging

20:42

on Cam the

20:44

white shirt.

20:44

All the dudes in the black

20:46

was fighting Cam.

20:47

The dude in the white shirt came up and swung

20:50

on one of the dudes that were swinging on camp because you see,

20:52

when they was breaking up, he went back and.

20:54

Stood in front of camp. Okay, yeah

20:57

that's what That's what it looked like to me.

20:59

Yeah, said I didn't know, like the angle I got

21:01

like they put something up when he swung, so I didn't

21:03

know if he was swinging on Cam or was he swinging on the

21:06

dudes on Cam. But either way, Cam held

21:08

his own. The hat was flawless.

21:11

He was talking big ship. But you remember, I think it was

21:13

a few years ago where some kids was talking disrespectful

21:16

to him at a camp that he was hosting. So

21:19

I think was I don't know if it was marcellous while there's someone

21:21

else said this is what happens, and forgive

21:23

me if it wasn't Marcel's, but I know he posted this is what

21:26

happens when sports media thinks they can disrespect

21:29

athletes that like this. Younger generations

21:31

feel like they can say anything.

21:33

You can't do that.

21:33

Cam's one of Cam is one of the best

21:35

ever played the game. Bro from when I'm here and they say

21:37

he was trying to break up a fight.

21:40

Oh really he was.

21:41

Yeah, he was breaking up a fight and I guess

21:43

the kid that he was trying to calm down.

21:46

They got into it and that's when the team jumped in.

21:48

Mmmmm. Unfortunately.

21:50

Man, I'm glad no one was really hurt, but very

21:53

impressed with him just dragging them little boys around.

21:55

Yeah, y'all get in the weight room. Man, y'all go get in the

21:57

weight room.

21:58

Well, people don't understand like with this, like professional

22:01

sports, strength is like you know you have and you have

22:03

a little bit of an older old man strength, but you got

22:05

to be strong, particularly in the NFL. But motherfucker's

22:08

in the league is strong too. Like just we

22:10

train every single day, you know what I mean.

22:12

So it's just like naturally when

22:14

we put hands on your pause on you, it's

22:17

a little bit different.

22:18

And Cam stayed on his feet the whole time.

22:19

You gotta think Cam was the lebron of quarterbacks

22:23

six you know what I'm saying, Like he's

22:25

strong.

22:27

Yeah, he still work out.

22:29

Cut it out. Shout

22:31

out to cam Man. Next

22:35

up, Steven R.

22:36

Schultz.

22:38

Of all coaches you had, who doesn't get the

22:40

hype they deserve, who

22:42

was a good coach? You had jack that didn't really necessarily get

22:44

the love they deserve.

22:49

Rest in peace. I don't think Paul Solace get the love

22:52

he deserve. Good call was a

22:54

solid coach in Cleveland when he had Lebron

22:56

his rookie year. He

22:58

was just a great minded Again, a lot of guys respected

23:01

him, and he was one of those people that he

23:03

talked a lot from experience. He played in the NBA, was

23:05

a successful player, and uh,

23:07

you know, even he was such a great

23:09

mind that his son ended up being a head coach in the league.

23:12

So he was just one of.

23:12

Those guys that was able to talk life in the players and

23:15

you know, he's he spoke from.

23:16

Experience like that. Mine

23:18

was probably Rick Adaman.

23:20

Rick Adaman with

23:22

with with the Sack team and just super innovative

23:25

him Pete Carell and their systems and and

23:27

and you know, moving the power forwards out

23:29

and and and you know, doing a lot of the passing

23:32

that the Draymonds and and and the Bonuses

23:35

do now. They were doing that back late

23:37

nineties, early two thousand. So I definitely think Rick

23:39

Adaman doesn't get the love, uh that he deserves.

23:41

Shout out Rick.

23:41

Adelman at Euro Suki Doji?

23:45

Who got you out of highest?

23:49

Who got uh?

23:52

Have you smoked out with anyone? Just been super

23:54

duper blowed? I

24:00

know I got super high with Whiz before super

24:02

High with Whiz quick story, we're coming in. We were in

24:04

Amsterdam coming down to me. They're

24:08

not retired yet, so I can't say the name. Me and some of

24:10

my Clipper teammates. Uh,

24:13

just touched down and the biggest

24:16

coffee shop they call him, I guess, was right there on the

24:18

corner. So our girls took our bag

24:20

to the room. We sit down, we start burning, and

24:22

we hear someone jump bumping Wiz coming down

24:24

the water canals, because there's a bunch of water canals out

24:27

there, so

24:29

we would go look outside because this is bumping and this

24:32

Wiz and he happened to stay in our hotel, so

24:34

we ended up linking up with

24:36

him later and taking dabs for

24:38

the first time, similar to

24:40

what happened with Snoop Super High, super

24:43

Duper, super duper High.

24:45

We had a good time there.

24:46

But one time Jack high school,

24:49

the first time I smoke before a game. We

24:52

cut fourth period. We only have four periods

24:54

of there. We cut forth and that's

24:59

my in the year go and we take gravity

25:01

balls. So those big old member of the big al Hamburg

25:04

bottles they used to have, we cut the bottom of that bitch.

25:06

Put in the saint then in.

25:08

Bro the highest I've ever been. So we're

25:11

in the tournament. Kevin Johnson, former Phoenix

25:13

Suns mayor of Sacramento. He had

25:15

the record of three MVPs. So

25:20

I had won my first two years. This is my junior year.

25:24

Needs to say I dropped like thirty something in

25:27

the first game. The game I got high,

25:29

it was like team wolf Bro. I was so high airball,

25:31

two layups, I might have had like four points,

25:34

like when I was turning like the like

25:37

the world was like turning with me, like shifting,

25:39

and it was my homeboys were up in the crowd

25:41

laughing at me the whole time. In the very back corner. I

25:43

see him sitting up there laughing. I

25:46

need to say, played like shit. We still won. And then

25:48

the next game I had like fifty something, but I didn't get

25:50

MVP that that

25:52

tournament because of that fucked up game.

25:55

I got too high.

25:57

Well for me, it's a little different. I

26:00

had just I was working out trying to get an NBA

26:02

and my homeboys.

26:05

I was in Houston. They picked me up and around

26:07

that time some of my home boy wasn't smoking, Sharan. It

26:12

was on our way home and they always smoking. That wasn't

26:14

my thing, but that day I wanted to try it. So

26:17

I actually hit the Sharon one time. I just

26:19

put it one time, Matt and we was on our way

26:23

to our apartment and it was the sun was

26:25

just coming down, but it was a club, you know, where people were

26:27

all pulling up in the street.

26:28

Was fired up.

26:29

I was so high.

26:30

I hopped out the car the red light and

26:32

ran in front of all the cars in the middle section and start

26:35

dancing with basketball clothes on, sweat.

26:37

I'm just dancing. And the whole time I danced

26:39

like, man, I feel good, Man,

26:41

I feel good.

26:43

And I'm so scared that Sharon

26:45

had me a whole different person. That's

26:47

the highest ever been. I was probably about

26:50

nineteen eighteen nineteen.

26:53

Had you off that stick? Huh? That's tough.

26:55

Yeah, what

26:57

kind of dances were going on at?

26:59

What was there? I learned that time?

27:01

So so around that time, I was so

27:03

I was doing a little every

27:05

little step I take Bobby Brown little dance

27:08

with the South side Key Key along

27:11

along with the h

27:13

Time Just Little Bop, So it was just a mix

27:15

of everything. I was all over the place.

27:17

But you was in your bag though, as all that matters.

27:19

I was musty, sweaty, and I looked

27:21

like a damn dope fan.

27:25

It's a great way to start. Look at you now.

27:33

Need just to say you've come a long way, well

27:35

man, that long way. I hope you

27:37

guys enjoyed this episode. You guys can catch this

27:39

on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and

27:42

the Draft Kings Network. Jack always

27:44

good to catch up with you. I know you will be out here in l

27:46

A in a couple of weeks.

27:48

It's sir, can't wait to toaster Witch

27:51

and my brother.

27:52

We'll see y'all soon.