0:00

A ton of talent. I want

0:02

to go two ways with Drew Holliday, but I'm

0:04

gonna have to go with Reggie Miller as

0:06

my two at

0:09

my Actually, I'm gonna flip

0:11

this. I'm gonna go Drew Holiday at my two. I'm

0:14

gonna put Reggie at my three. I'm

0:16

gonna put Kevin Love at my four,

0:20

and I'm gonna put Kareem as center

0:22

the bus bookies as I got

0:24

Barren, Drew Holliday, Reggie

0:26

Miller, Kevin

0:29

Love, and Kareem Abdul

0:31

Jabbar.

0:34

Okay, bring

0:36

out the brooms, y'all

0:40

getting swipt man?

0:41

You think so? B

0:44

d Reggie Miller, I

0:49

ain't gonna get to win.

0:50

That's that's that's cool. Dudes were cool

0:52

with them. We're cool with a lot of them when

0:55

they come to playing five to five. Look it's that

0:57

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Welcome Back Unplugged, our

3:13

weekly look at what's going on out there.

3:16

We got a special guest today, friend of

3:18

the program, brother of the team, the

3:20

Marcus Cousins. Welcome to the show, stack

3:23

Bug, What's up?

3:25

What up with it?

3:26

My next show is gonna be from a new crib. I'm excited.

3:30

Congratulations, Yeah, thank you, thanks,

3:32

looking forward to a new environment, Boogie,

3:36

going back to Taiwan. Second

3:38

deal with the beer Leopards. Congratulations.

3:42

I wanted him in the Big Three. That the

3:45

Big Three with congra Congrats,

3:48

appreciate it.

3:49

So how old are you right now?

3:51

I'm thirty three, thirty.

3:53

Three, so you definitely still got some juice in the legs.

3:55

How was the last experience out there and what

3:58

took you back?

4:00

Bro?

4:00

It was it was amazing just to

4:02

love how genuine the people are,

4:04

how kind of people are, hospitality,

4:07

you know, everything, everything

4:10

you can imagine and want, you know, coming to

4:12

a new environment or a new place. So you

4:14

know, they made they definitely made

4:16

it worth my while. I enjoyed my time

4:18

over there. You know, I've built some some

4:20

really good relationships over there, mess

4:23

some really cool people.

4:24

So I'm excited to be back.

4:26

You know, I look forward to my future,

4:28

you know, moving forward with the team and the organization,

4:31

and uh, you know, I'm just enjoying life.

4:33

Bro, I still love the game of hoop.

4:36

Uh, so I'm gonna I'm gonna get it

4:38

in where I can, you know what I mean, and be

4:40

outside of that. You know, I'm still expanding, you

4:43

know, my horizons, trying to spread my wings

4:45

and feel my way through this, you know, just thing

4:47

called life. So that's just where I'm at right

4:49

now. And uh, you know I'm dibbling,

4:51

dabbling and everything. So I'm in a good.

4:53

Place, solid pay come

4:56

on, man, you know me, Brodie, Yeah, so I

4:58

gotta be solid love that point. We're gonna get

5:01

to it. And it's not even

5:03

that would you say it's about fifty sixty days,

5:05

so a couple of months out there.

5:08

Yeah, it's like a month and a half something like that. So

5:10

you know, you finish up the end

5:13

bit of regular season and

5:15

then uh, you know, off into the.

5:16

Playoffs and ready to rock. You

5:18

ready to go.

5:20

I'm ready to go, bro, Absolutely ready to

5:22

go.

5:23

How much juice? You feel like you still got?

5:25

Uh in your game? You know you said you're thirty

5:27

three. Obviously the goal is to get back in the NBA,

5:29

and for whatever reason, that's not happening,

5:32

you still play the game? How much long do you see yourself

5:34

playing?

5:34

Honestly?

5:35

Man, you know, God willing

5:37

my body holds up. You know, I put a lot

5:39

of time into my body at this stage in

5:41

my career to you know, just keep

5:44

this engine going. But uh, you know, God

5:46

willing that my body holds up. I could play this game,

5:48

you know, until I'm forty. Bro, just with

5:50

the way I play the game, I understand

5:53

the game. I've never really relied

5:55

on athleticism. I've always used

5:57

I don't get a lot of credit for it. For whatever

5:59

reason. I've always tried to use

6:01

my IQ to you know, get me through

6:03

the game. But you know, I think I

6:05

got a lot left in the tank. I can help a lot of teams.

6:08

But you know, like I.

6:09

Said, I'm also in this space where I'm

6:12

gonna go where I'm wanting and appreciate it, you know what

6:14

I mean. So you know I ain't

6:16

begging or kissing ass to make nothing

6:18

happen.

6:19

Y'all know what I can do.

6:21

Y'all know what I bring, and you know, if the opportunity

6:23

presents itself, you know I'm gonna be a pro and you

6:25

know, go in and do what I do.

6:27

What do you feel like the level of play is out there for

6:29

those who are not familiar with the league, can you

6:31

compare it to a level of play.

6:32

You kind of get put in this place of you know,

6:35

once you become a pro and that's all you've really experienced.

6:37

This isn't necessarily for everybody, just

6:39

for certain individuals. And I'm guilty

6:42

of that. I had the luxury

6:44

of only you know, playing in the NBA.

6:46

You know, I never experienced the G League. I

6:49

never had to do any of those type of things,

6:51

so I was ignorant to you know, the

6:53

talent and just basketball. And

6:55

obviously we all got homies that we feel like can make

6:58

it. But you know, you sometimes you

7:00

you put this narrative like man with shit, if you good enough,

7:03

you'll make it regardless, And that's just not necessarily

7:05

the case. So it's not always about what you

7:07

know. Sometimes it's who you know. You

7:10

know, everybody isn't presented the opportunity.

7:13

Everybody isn't putting put

7:15

in a position to to see it is coaches.

7:18

That's sabotaged motherfuckers out here. That's

7:20

a real thing.

7:21

So it's a lot of you know, different scenarios

7:24

as to why you can't, you know, display

7:27

your talent at the so called

7:29

considered highest level. So you

7:32

know, I've I've earned a new respect for it because

7:34

I've realized, Man, it's some really good basketball

7:36

players all over the world, bro and and

7:39

and can play at a high level. And you

7:42

know, I'm glad I am experiencing this side

7:44

of the game because it's opened.

7:45

My eyes so much.

7:47

And uh, you know, and at the end of the day, it

7:49

really helps you appreciate the game as a whole and

7:51

what it's done on a worldwide basis.

7:53

Considering it's March, man, this selection Sunday

7:56

was yesterday. The tournament is right

7:58

around the corner, and

8:00

we have Boog today. So Kentucky

8:02

and UCLA the two of the most you know, obviously prestigious

8:05

schools national championships

8:07

turning out pros. Currently Kentucky has one

8:09

hundred and thirty two players they put

8:11

in the league, UCLA one hundred and two. So

8:14

Boogie and I are gonna pick our all times starting

8:16

five from both of our respective schools.

8:19

And Jack is gonna tell me

8:21

or tell us, tell y'all which

8:23

team he thinks is better. So

8:25

bo We're gonna start with you. You're the guest Kentucky

8:28

long list of killers. Who's

8:30

your five?

8:31

This's gonna be easy for me at PG.

8:33

I'm going with John wall Uh.

8:37

You know, he basically started, you know, this whole

8:39

way, so you got to show respect, you

8:42

know what's been done shooting gard I'm going with

8:44

d Book small

8:46

forward. I

8:48

think we need to lengthen the defense to go

8:50

along with shot making. I'm gonna go with Tayshaun

8:53

Prince power forward.

8:55

Obviously, Anthony Davis another you

8:57

know, founder of this shit, and that's

8:59

it. I'm going with myself. We're gonna hold

9:02

the pain down and dominate.

9:03

So that's a tough mat for

9:06

rough That's a tough So

9:09

I got a question to our panel in

9:11

here are we going? I mean, what kind of because I mean, obviously

9:14

we got Kareem and Bill Walton on this list, but are

9:16

we playing that kind of game? Were playing

9:18

the new game? What kind of game were playing? Man? Playing

9:21

current basketball?

9:22

If you put Bill Walton on your team, you lose. I'm

9:24

telling you that now.

9:25

Hey, Bill Walton had a lot of game.

9:26

Bro. Yeah, Jilani

9:29

too, Jilani.

9:30

Too, Jelanni on the team, You're gonna

9:32

lose.

9:33

Man a chance,

9:36

you don't stand a chance.

9:37

You gotta go out number fifteen on the other side.

9:40

Chance.

9:40

So my point guard, I mean there's a long list.

9:42

I mean we got Westbrook, Lonzo Ball right

9:45

here. But I think I'm gonna go with the healthy Baron

9:47

Davis at my point

9:50

at the two guard a ton

9:52

of talent. I want to go two ways

9:55

with Drew Holliday, but I'm gonna have to go with Reggie

9:57

Miller as my two at

10:01

my Actually, I'm gonna flip

10:03

this. I'm gonna go Drew Holiday at my two. I'm

10:06

gonna put Reggie at my three. I'm

10:08

gonna put Kevin Love at my four,

10:12

and I'm gonna put Kareem as center

10:14

the bus bookies as I got

10:16

Barren, Drew Holliday, Reggie

10:18

Miller, Kevin

10:21

Love, and Kareem Abdul

10:24

Jabbar.

10:26

Okay, bring

10:28

out the brooms. Y'all

10:32

getting swept? Man?

10:34

You think so b

10:36

d Reggie Miller, Drew.

10:41

I ain't gonna get to win. That's that's that's cool.

10:44

Dudes were cool with them. We're cool with a lot of when

10:48

when they come to playing five five, it's

10:50

that five.

10:51

I don't I mean fairness. I don't know.

10:54

Is there a school that you could really funk with all

10:56

time over there?

10:57

Give you? I give you better. You said

11:00

up the U C L A line.

11:01

What what you see that you see a line of who you going with?

11:04

I'm going with Russ K

11:07

D You, Kevin

11:09

Love and Julyannie. I robb

11:11

with that before I robbed the other ship you put out there.

11:13

So you you wouldn't have kareem on it.

11:16

But they gonna, but they gonna battle harder than the

11:18

niggas that he put out there the first time.

11:19

That ain't gonna work. I'm gonna tell you that right now.

11:21

You gotta think Kevin Love was a killer in college,

11:23

and the killer really he got a guard,

11:26

Yeah you got, but you gotta guarde.

11:29

You gotta guard.

11:31

No, no, no, you stop backing like you're playing

11:33

in every position.

11:34

Boogie. You were talking

11:36

about a A I'm talking that's

11:38

what we're talking about.

11:39

You don't know who's gonna show up at

11:41

about worry about that. I know who gonna showup.

11:44

That nigga, that nigga that was next to me in New Orleans,

11:46

that's gonna that's who's gonna show up. If that's

11:48

the A A D. You bring it, and it's a different story

11:51

telling you. I put batteries in

11:53

niggas back.

11:55

Like I said before, is there a college

11:57

that can really match up? I mean we could probably do a due

12:00

lineup that might be able to but I don't

12:02

really know if there's any college, to be honest with you. I

12:04

mean, Kentucky's had a hell of a run, you know what I

12:06

mean. So Kentucky's definitely had North

12:08

Carolina. You know, you throw it.

12:10

As of recently.

12:11

No, No Carolina. North

12:13

Carolina can put.

12:14

Up a five.

12:15

Yeah, not not as older.

12:17

No, definitely.

12:18

We're talking about if we take it back in the day, I

12:20

think we can definitely, you know, make some challenging

12:23

list.

12:23

But with she the stack House, yeah,

12:27

Sam Perkins Worthy.

12:29

She was not disagreement.

12:31

I'm not disagreeing, brother, No,

12:33

not at all.

12:34

The current Yeah, I don't think anyone could really.

12:37

You got about Lancelide name a question about that

12:40

though Jolani ain't got a chance.

12:42

Though hey

12:52

bo wasn't.

12:55

He had his way bore something

12:58

something.

12:58

Now Boogie was still paying on himself when

13:00

jumping Jelannie McCoy was was jumping

13:02

Jelani McCoy or Playboy All American Boogie

13:04

was still feeding on himself back in the day. So he don't know

13:07

about kylege Jelinney that got suspended

13:09

for smoking too much weed. That

13:11

was a different Jelini back then. Speaking

13:15

of the tournament, there's been a

13:18

ton of historical shots and moments right

13:20

now, we're gonna go through a handful of them. We're gonna

13:22

pick what one we feel like is our special

13:25

to us, and then we're also gonna leave it up to our fans

13:28

to let them decide what

13:30

moment they feel was best. And

13:32

we'll start with Kimba Walker's game winner, his

13:34

step back, and just his run to

13:37

get to the tournament that year was crazy.

13:39

Remember Randolph Childress crossed

13:41

over who he costs off Jeff mcguinnis and

13:44

told him to come here and still hit that jumper. Christian

13:46

Laitner's greatness in college arguably one

13:48

of the greatest college players of all time. His game winning

13:50

shot, Chris Jenkins game winner

13:53

u se l bruin Tye and he took it the length

13:55

of the floor to get the game winner. Jalen

13:57

Suggs, I think it was against UCLA. The half

13:59

court Buzzer be MJ's mid ranger

14:01

to win a championship. So those

14:03

I listed, any other you guys got and

14:05

if so, what are from that list I

14:08

gave you guys something that do you feel like

14:10

is one of the best college moments?

14:12

What's the kid named from Villanova?

14:14

Chris?

14:16

There's a Chris Jenkins, right, yeah, Chris

14:18

game winning not too long?

14:19

Yeah, yeah, I like that that that one right

14:21

there was big.

14:22

Three seconds

14:24

Chins.

14:28

So that would be yours, Chris Jenkins game winner.

14:32

I go with Chris. Chris Jenkins are kim book

14:34

is the way Kimber did that? Dude?

14:36

That dude shouldn't play no more after that.

14:39

That's my That's my choice right there.

14:41

Kimba every team, every team

14:43

you see that video and be like, nah, bro.

14:45

That's it.

14:47

That's it.

14:49

I'm gonna go with uh

14:52

Man. That Jason Suggs ship was heartbreaking against

14:55

us, but it was it was a great shot, So I'm probably

14:57

gonna go with that Jason Suggs half quarter. You

15:00

know, it has time to do something sucks

15:02

for the win. That's

15:05

our picks. You guys decide what

15:07

you like and we'll see who

15:10

comes up with it. We're

15:12

gonna go back to and talk a little bit about Kentucky.

15:15

Boogie, you were at a at a pivotal point when

15:17

they you know, they

15:19

changed the rules about being

15:22

able to go to the league. You and

15:24

John were both one and duns over there Kentucky.

15:26

But you know, some say, as we were talking before, you

15:28

know, you know you that run with you know, you

15:30

and John and then obviously

15:33

Greg Odin and KD they say it kind of say

15:36

I wouldn't say saved, but some would say save college

15:38

basketball at the time because there's just a lot of uncertain

15:40

of what was going on. But your freshman

15:42

year fifteen ten two

15:45

blocks, All American, led the SEC and rebounds.

15:47

Your team went thirty five and three, lost

15:49

to West Virginia in the lead eight, who

15:52

was headed by coach Joe Mizzoula

15:54

over there in Boston. He was giving Boogie

15:56

post work all game and

15:59

that's why they lost. But talk

16:01

to us about your college experience. Obviously, I think

16:03

I saw you or did I see you talking

16:05

about Are you and John talking about it not

16:07

too long ago? Just about you know how heartbroken

16:10

he was when you guys lost, and you know, obviously you were looking

16:12

towards everything he had done and what was next? But what

16:14

was that Kentucky run? And how special

16:17

While we're talking about Kentucky is coach Cali

16:19

Perry not obviously not a ton of a one

16:22

national championship, but we feel like his presence

16:24

in the game will will always be remembered,

16:26

and probably more than just in the coaching

16:29

space. I'm sure he seems like a dope dude too. So

16:31

talk to us about Kentucky coach cal and you're

16:33

running college man.

16:35

College was, you know, one of the best experiences

16:37

of my life. It was a big transition

16:40

period for me. Definitely

16:42

the most fun I've ever had, you

16:44

know, playing a game of basketball. You

16:48

know, it was young kids put

16:50

on a huge and it's crazy because

16:52

us going in I don't even think we realized

16:54

how big of a stage we were really on. Because

16:58

if people remember, originally

17:00

we were going to Memphis.

17:02

This was Kyle's This is when Kyle left

17:05

Memphis going to Kentucky.

17:07

So your class was gonna go to Memphis with Kyle.

17:10

I was committed to Memphis.

17:11

I was committed and I didn't know that, so who else? So that was John

17:14

was committed to Memphis too.

17:16

John was still coming along.

17:17

He hadn't committed, you know, he had to do the

17:19

Grand Finale ship, you know, but

17:22

Blesso was coming. We also had

17:24

at the time Exavier Henry

17:27

Up. He

17:30

ended up going to He ended up going

17:32

to Kansas, Kansas, Okay.

17:35

Once Kyle left, he ended up going to Kansas. We

17:38

followed the Kentucky. I don't know why he didn't follow,

17:40

but yeah, we went to a situation where the stage

17:42

was way bigger than we ever expected. And honestly,

17:44

it was just it was Eric Blessoe

17:46

included, and I say we as

17:48

in us three because we did everything

17:51

together, like we we figured

17:53

the ship out together, all of that. But with

17:55

that being said, it was you know, we made

17:57

the best of our situation. You

17:59

know, it made us grow up, us all coming

18:01

from similar backgrounds, you know, that's

18:03

that was the most relatable thing for us.

18:06

So that's why I say we kind of

18:08

figured it out. You know,

18:11

we weren't you know, the typical kids that were kind

18:13

of groomed up to be pros and things of

18:15

that nature. We were, you know, kids from an environment.

18:18

We figured out how to make it out and we made

18:20

the best of our situation.

18:21

So college changed us.

18:25

It turned us into you know, young adults, young

18:27

men, and when it came

18:29

to Kyle, uh, you know, that

18:32

was probably the most important piece for our

18:34

you know, our growth as young men. He

18:37

prepared us to be pros. He didn't treat us

18:39

like kids. He didn't treat us like college kids

18:41

or collegiate athletes. He prepared

18:44

us to be a pro. So he treated us like one and

18:46

he expected us to act as such. So

18:50

you know, he put a lot of pressure on us. And you

18:52

know, they also determined, you know, if

18:55

we were ready for this shit or not, and obviously we

18:57

passed that test. So with

19:01

that, you know, when

19:04

it comes to Cal and just his ability, you

19:06

know, to bring the best out of you, bring

19:08

the best out of you,

19:10

you know, help you understand the game as a whole

19:13

and not just as an individual, because that's a real

19:15

thing for up and coming hoopers.

19:18

It's hard for young talent, the guys to look past

19:20

themselves when it's time to you know, really

19:22

learn how to play the game and be amongst other pros

19:25

and other talent. So that's

19:27

something that Kyle is not good

19:29

at but great at. And you

19:32

know, when it comes to Cayl, obviously it's

19:34

you know, he doesn't have the historic you

19:37

know thing where he's

19:39

got twenty championships and you

19:41

know, typical you know, Hall of Fame

19:43

coach thing. But even

19:46

though he does has one championship,

19:48

I kind of put cal in that, you know that Alan

19:50

iverson type, you know category

19:53

where his influence and his

19:57

influence on the game and what he brought

19:59

to the culture and and how he changed the culture.

20:01

And I think it's something that's

20:03

forever lasting. And I

20:06

honestly feel like Kyle was way ahead

20:08

of his time. And it's the same thing that goes with Alan Irverson

20:10

because you look at today's game and how

20:12

people you know, carried themselves,

20:15

dressed, the tattoos, the fashion, it's

20:17

all good, you know what I mean. So and

20:20

you know he was the pioneer for that. So

20:22

I think Kyle is the pioneer for

20:25

you know, this one and done thing, really embracing

20:27

it to

20:29

what we see today to now you know, kids

20:33

are getting paid just to go to college. You know what I'm saying,

20:35

I think Kyle was and I'm not saying

20:37

and obviously it sounds like I'm saying something otherwise

20:40

that wasn't the case.

20:41

Well at least not for me, but.

20:43

I think he was the pioneer this shit, and I

20:46

think he stapled hisself in you know, basketball

20:48

history, college basketball history, and you

20:51

know, he's more than deserving of that.

20:53

Even though he only has one championship book, I think

20:55

he'll still be remember as one of the greatest coaches

20:57

of all time when it comes to you

20:59

know, similarly, obviously Ai. You

21:01

know, only two years, no championships, but he'll

21:03

still be one of the greatest players. And I think another

21:06

thing point you touched on, which was great,

21:08

cal embraced that one and done. A lot of

21:10

these bigger universities has still have a hard

21:12

time doing it. Duke doesn't like it. I know UCLA

21:14

doesn't like it, like these bigger schools, these

21:16

traditional schools don't like the one and done. But

21:19

cal embraced that shit and made it

21:21

fun. And that's why I feel like they still

21:23

continue to get these top players

21:25

because they were okay with Hey, come in, I'm like

21:27

you said from the rip, I'm gonna treat you like a pro. And if

21:29

if at the end of this year, if it's time to go, it's time to

21:31

go. And it was a fun year. And I think

21:34

kids appreciate that, you know, because like I said, UCLA

21:37

is not big on the one and done.

21:38

I mean, Mick.

21:39

Cronin really barely plays freshmen

21:42

at UCLA, and I think that kind of slows

21:44

down the process of even getting some of these top kids.

21:46

So currently cal

21:48

has forty seven players in the league,

21:51

and six of this past season

21:53

all stars came from coach

21:55

Cal you know what I mean. So not

21:58

only that guy signing Max deal. What

22:01

do you think Buggie as obviously someone who

22:04

was around him and coach by him, and he's still,

22:06

you know, a part of your life. What do you think his secret

22:08

to successes is the way he's real and

22:11

his ability to communicate with you guys. What makes

22:13

Cal so special?

22:14

First off, his honesty.

22:17

You know, Kyle ain't putting sugar on ship

22:19

and trying to sell it to you, you know what I mean. So

22:22

he's gonna be one hundred percent straight up with you.

22:24

And he also has an eye for talent. He

22:27

knows if it's his system, he knows

22:29

what you know. He knows what type

22:31

of players he can bring the best out of. He knows what

22:33

type of players he can, you know, increase

22:35

their abilities.

22:36

All of these things.

22:37

So he has an eye for that, and

22:39

I think he just has a talent for you know, managing

22:42

talent like that's that's a real thing. That's

22:44

talent A lot of coaches is,

22:46

but a lot of coaches lack that and they

22:48

struggle with that part of coaching.

22:51

That's something that doesn't get highlighted enough. So

22:54

with those things, I think that's what you know,

22:57

that's what you get out of cale and as

22:59

a player and as a young

23:01

kid at one point trying to become a pro

23:04

and get to that next level, that was something that you

23:06

know, meant the world to me that

23:08

I could have a coach that wasn't gonna

23:10

you know, tell me a lie, tell me everything I wanted

23:12

to hear, and also just be straight up like, look,

23:15

you do this, this and this. I

23:17

can help you become a pro, but it's

23:19

also on you to do this, this and this. I

23:21

can, I can lead you to the water, but it's

23:23

up to you to go drink it, you know what I mean. And

23:26

you know that's that's one of the things I appreciated

23:29

mostly about God. Now, motherfucker

23:32

did lie to me, though he did lied to me.

23:34

In my recruitment. That motherfucker told me I was gonna

23:36

be bringing the ball up.

23:39

Man.

23:39

I tried in my first practice. Man,

23:42

I didn't even turn the ball over. He blew the whistles,

23:44

stopped the practice. He like, what the fuck are you doing?

23:47

Like I got John water projected

23:49

number one point guard coming out, and I got my fucking

23:52

center bringing the ball up. And

23:54

then that moment, I'm like, damn, this motherfucker

23:57

lied to me.

23:57

Bro.

23:59

But and I that shit helped

24:01

me opened up other areas of my game.

24:03

It helped me understand how to be a you know, a

24:06

big one I needed to be, and you

24:08

know, it helped me balance out my talent.

24:09

So in a way it helped in long.

24:11

Brown dope shoutout coach. This

24:14

current Kentucky team has possibly

24:16

four uh new NBA

24:19

prospects on the horizon. Obviously Rob Dillahan,

24:21

which everyone's going crazy over, our

24:23

brother, Dwan Wagner's son

24:26

d J. Wagner, Rex Shepherd,

24:28

who is super high on people's boards.

24:30

They're talking about him top two or three, and

24:32

then Aaron Bradshaw Boogie.

24:35

Out of those four, they're all wrong,

24:38

They're all wrong.

24:39

What you mean justin Jefferson

24:41

gonna be Colders out of all of them. Watch, He's gonna

24:43

be the best NBA player out of all of them.

24:45

Watch.

24:45

Remember I said that.

24:47

Justin Netwiths, just Justin

24:49

Elwis, I said, Justin Jefferson, just Eedwards, he

24:51

gonna be the he gonna be the best pro out of all of

24:53

them.

24:53

Watch.

24:54

He's not. He's not coming up this year, though, Is he

24:58

possibly?

24:59

Possibly? I think he will? M hm, he

25:02

might, he might. He might be that fifth guy. M

25:04

hm.

25:05

Well, Buck, talk to us about these four right here?

25:08

Man?

25:09

Uh all super talented

25:11

guys. I think they all got the ability to you

25:14

know, get to that next level. H Rob,

25:18

that's facts. But hey, this is a small man's

25:20

league now, so it's all good. Rob

25:23

Dellagham being you know, kind

25:25

of the you know, the brightest name on

25:27

this team obviously. I think he's the

25:29

most talented, you know, possibly

25:32

have the most potential, you know, long term,

25:35

an electric player. Uh

25:38

Kyrie irvin Ish, you know when it comes

25:40

to you know, being as crafty

25:42

as he is with the ball, being able to create off the dribble,

25:45

things of that nature, using the dribble to creat

25:47

as well. So uh Kyrie

25:49

irving ish Ish, Uh

25:52

DJ Wagoner we all know, you know, son

25:54

of Dwan Wagoner. Wen Shepard also another

25:57

pro son. I

25:59

think I think he'll be fifteen

26:03

possibly twenty year pro if he wants to be.

26:06

He's that good.

26:07

He can fit any role, plays

26:10

both sides of the ball, IQ through the roof.

26:13

Probably a coach's dream when it comes to, you

26:15

know, having certain players

26:18

on your team. Like I said, he's a do

26:20

it all player, knows how to play

26:22

the right way, can fit

26:24

any system. So I think any coach wants that.

26:28

I do agree with you. Stack Justin

26:31

Wis does have a lot of potential. It's still

26:33

high. He has a you know, he has a

26:35

very high ceiling. He's a six seven six a wing,

26:38

can do it all athletic,

26:40

but you know he is still putting things together.

26:43

I think this type, I think this, you

26:46

know this this tournament run is you know, make

26:49

a break to see if he will take that next step

26:51

with intering the league or fat you know, coming

26:53

back for that season. He hasn't had the greatest

26:55

season. He has shown flashes though, shown

26:58

a lot of you know, potential, but you

27:00

know this run is going to determine a lot for him. And I

27:02

think that goes for the big fellow Brasshaw as

27:04

well. He got to

27:06

fall in love with that weight room. He has

27:08

all the potential to you know and intangients

27:11

to be something special at the pro level,

27:13

but you got to take care of his body

27:15

and have his body go to the

27:17

next level. You

27:19

know, shot bocker can knock

27:21

down outside shots, can

27:24

run the floor really well. Like I

27:26

said, the next part is you know, building up his strength

27:28

and body. But you know, I

27:30

think all these kids, like I said, very

27:32

very talented. I hope I didn't skip out

27:35

on any Oh well, DJ Wagner,

27:38

you know, he was number one kid

27:40

coming out of high school.

27:41

So it's a lot that comes with that.

27:44

You know, he's struggled a bit with finding

27:46

his identity in college, which is,

27:48

you know, a hard thing, especially

27:51

when you're training to be The

27:53

pro game in the college game is two different things,

27:55

even though it's you know, it's basketball, you know

27:57

what I mean, But it's two different things, and

28:00

I think DJ Waannon has more of a pro game.

28:03

So it's kind of hard to find your identity

28:05

in at the collegiate level.

28:07

But uh, you know, the

28:10

flashes are there.

28:11

Obviously, he's full of potential being the young kid that

28:13

he is, but he's still figuring it out. And I also

28:15

think this tournament run you know, will

28:18

make or break his decision as well.

28:20

But one thing I do love about

28:23

the kid is the way that he competes on the defensive

28:25

end, So that's gonna always

28:27

you know, be in his favorite So but

28:29

as far as who I think, you know, long

28:31

run, as of right now, I'm gonna put

28:34

my money on Reed Shepherd as you know, the best

28:37

pro career. And that's more so because

28:39

like I said this, he's a coach's dream

28:42

like when it comes to intangibles as a player.

28:44

We've seen a lot of players like that befold

28:47

and they get to the league and you don't see it from no more

28:49

so I want to see it.

28:50

Who is that read Shepherd? We've

28:52

seen a lot of read.

28:53

Shepherds, Like who

28:55

Tyler Herro is doing his thing?

29:00

Everybody was just saying Austin Reeves was an All

29:02

Star and now I ain't talking about him no more so.

29:04

We didn't heard this type of stuff before.

29:05

Who said that?

29:07

There's a lot of people's matt

29:09

come on, now, a lot of people saying that about Austin

29:11

Reeves.

29:12

But oh, my.

29:13

God, say he was an All Star. He's

29:15

still playing.

29:16

Never heard that stat.

29:17

He's still playing. He's like

29:19

six.

29:20

Shepherd becomes If ree Shepherd becomes

29:22

an Austin Reeves, that's a really good career.

29:24

Yeah. Absolutely, that's gonna be a lot of money.

29:26

Austin Reeves ain't no bomb. He's just not an All

29:29

Star, which is okay.

29:30

You know's got a lot of games. He's been playing well

29:32

too. Yeah, here

29:34

he goes. Well, good luck to all

29:37

five of them young men in

29:39

the tournament and man if

29:41

they choose to come out going to the

29:43

league. Next up, we got fan Questions

29:46

March Madness Edition.

29:48

This is a crazy when we get a cold white boy. Huh.

29:53

This question from got hand from

29:56

West Dot Dakota to six. Who

29:59

are you guys haking Carmelo

30:01

Anthony Syracuse Carmelo

30:03

Anthony or Michigan's Chris Webber.

30:05

We're talking strictly college And just for some

30:08

reference, Sea Webb's number college numbers

30:10

were seventeen ten and like two and a half assists

30:13

and Carmelo's Anthony's were twenty two to ten

30:15

and like two point two assists, so numbers

30:18

not far off. Mello was the wings

30:20

Sea Web was the four who

30:23

were y'all taking.

30:24

Mellow won it? Just throw

30:26

that out there. What was that freshman

30:28

year? Hollow?

30:30

Not even a conversation, not a conversation

30:32

at all.

30:32

Brother, Hello, easy, easy,

30:35

easy, Melo.

30:36

And I'm a Mellow fan anyway, so me

30:39

too.

30:40

I'm gonna see where I'm gonna see Web A Michigan fan

30:42

too.

30:42

I wantwn to it.

30:44

But I don't give me Melo.

30:45

Brother.

30:47

Alright, many smells.

30:49

Man, Next question. Gwyn nineteen

30:52

sixty eight. The nineteen ninety

30:54

one UNLV running Rebels with Larry

30:56

Johnson, Stacey ug Being, Greg Anthony or

31:00

Fab five.

31:01

I'm gonna get I

31:03

was one when this ship happened.

31:05

Hey, hey, I'm

31:07

going.

31:08

I'm going with l J and them and the Plastic man

31:10

Acles and Anderson Hunt. No, I'm going

31:12

with all them because they go to

31:15

Mayberry.

31:16

I think it was Lee Mayberry.

31:17

Now he wasn't there yet.

31:20

That wasn't wasn't there yet.

31:21

I don't think so. Un l v uh

31:24

that was l Jackson, Hunt, Anderson

31:26

Hunt, Greg Anthony, Stacey Anthony.

31:30

Yeah there was one, but they want right,

31:35

yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:36

Yeah, yeah, I'm going.

31:38

I'm going with un l V. Just my grandmama

31:40

was different.

31:41

He was a master. I'm gonna go

31:43

with I'm just gonna just just go on

31:46

the other side. I'm gonna go with with Michigan and

31:48

and that's because you know they was

31:50

nice to Jawan Howard. The

31:52

boys are nice. But yeah, I mean that that n LV

31:54

is actually no, I'm not my bad web. I'm going

31:56

to un l V. The motherfuckers is just cold. Stay

32:02

next up, Red Iron C

32:04

C four U two. I don't know what the fuck all that

32:06

means, but long name what team

32:09

used to be the powerhouse and the tournament

32:11

that people under thirty don't

32:13

know who used to be a

32:15

monster in the tournament.

32:19

I mean those duke teams were always good. I mean East

32:22

team we mentioned, you know, Michigan had their run. You know

32:24

if we had their run.

32:25

I got one Offansas with Scottie

32:27

Thurman, the Carls Williams and them.

32:29

Yeah, I think I

32:31

think u CLA beat them on the way the National Championship

32:33

with ms

32:38

Miller and Uhnas

32:41

Donnas and uh Joe

32:43

kim Noah.

32:45

Yeah.

32:45

Yeah, those are tough teams. Corey

32:49

Brewers Brewer, yeah,

32:53

last but not least, Jimmy Bones fifteen

32:55

oh three. How good was

32:58

Duke's Jason Williams? Do

33:02

y'all know you want to leave it to me? He was my he was my year.

33:04

Jason Williams would have been a perennial.

33:06

He would have been a perennial NBA All Star, perennial

33:10

NBA All Star. He was six three

33:12

with bounced mid range three pointer,

33:16

a dog on defense like Jason

33:19

Willis would have been a problem in the NBA. And he's

33:21

someone I want to get on the show too, because I don't think people

33:23

realize how good he was, Like we saw him

33:26

first hand in the regular season.

33:28

In the tournament. That motherfucker was a kill

33:30

lure. He never got back right after the

33:33

motorcycle life, I think he was a number two pick in

33:35

the draft. Ou no mistake. And I want to say too, he did

33:37

like what was the show Marbrashaw used to do inside

33:40

inside stuff. He did a

33:42

show like that where he pulled up and someone's

33:44

gonna pull this up, maybe Dal and find this clip.

33:47

He pulled up to an interview on

33:49

a motorcycle and he even spoke

33:51

on how the team said they didn't want him on a motorcycle.

33:54

He ends up crashing the motorcycle and

33:56

never being the same after that.

33:57

Man, So he never played after that.

33:59

I don't know if he had. I think he did play

34:01

some more, Jack, I just don't think he ever got

34:03

back to uh To obviously

34:05

to what he was. He was never the same after that NVA.

34:08

So but he was. He was number

34:10

two picking the draft National Champion. Like people

34:12

need to go look up the white or the excuse me, the black

34:14

Jason Williams from Duke because he was cold man. Shout

34:16

out to Kyrie Irving for one of the most incredible

34:20

game winners you will ever

34:23

see. It was a runner,

34:26

a left handed runner over

34:28

Jokic from the free

34:30

throw line for game.

34:32

I'm not on social media, so Jack.

34:34

It was some of it. It was just one of the most beautiful

34:36

things you'll ever see. Bro looking

34:39

in Irving, Herving

34:45

just one of the most beautiful things. And I mean it

34:47

leads me to think that, you

34:49

know, arguably him, I put him and Kobe

34:51

probably the two most skilled talented

34:54

players we've ever seen, but

34:57

just Kyrie was absolutely

35:00

incredible.

35:01

I gotta put him over cold man.

35:02

Skill wise, You'll put him over you, and put him over Cod

35:05

the.

35:05

Motherfucker five eleven posting motherfuckers

35:08

up?

35:09

Yeah, yeah, I

35:11

think you.

35:13

Somebody on ESPN was saying recently though

35:16

that the Mavericks didn't have no post

35:18

game. They guards don't have no

35:20

post game, and they got two of the best post guards

35:22

in the whole league.

35:24

Right, motherfuckers just be talking,

35:26

know what they talk about? Uh.

35:29

Dame tweeted after that shot that Kyrie is the

35:31

most skilled motherfucker ever. Bruh.

35:33

So, I think a lot of people are greening with you

35:35

book. He was just tough. Who are your guys? Did you guys

35:37

give me your your top three most skilled

35:40

players of all time?

35:43

Kyrie, Irvan, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant.

35:45

Oh, I'm going.

35:49

Kyrie, Irvin, Kobe Bryant,

35:52

Tim Duncan mm hmm.

35:56

Call it Kyrie, Cole and

36:00

Steph.

36:04

No.

36:04

Joel, Yeah, Joel's

36:07

tough.

36:08

Top five for sure.

36:09

Yeah, he's a real life for

36:11

Ship. Look, if you would have got to run your career

36:14

the way you were supposed to run your career, you would definitely be

36:16

in the top five. You was doing all

36:18

this ship to Joel and Jokich was doing back

36:20

then, dropping fifty point triple doubles. So

36:22

I want to make sure you motherfuckers know about that.

36:25

My handle wasn't as tight as Joe.

36:27

It wasn't as No,

36:32

but I think what it is. I think it's

36:34

a different time. But

36:36

I think, like I think, not even

36:38

to your defense, because you still had a solid handle, but

36:41

you were just doing point forward

36:43

ship. Now he's doing more guards it. So

36:46

if the game was where it is today, I feel

36:48

like you would have had that type of handle too. You

36:50

was just running up more of a Magic Johnson

36:52

strong ball point type center

36:55

type game. But yeah, no, it won't a.

36:57

Lot of ice going back then either, so it wasn't

36:59

necessar eily, well you

37:02

know what I'm saying.

37:02

Yeah, real quick

37:05

before you get out of here, shout out to our brother Eddie House

37:07

and his son Jalen, who let New

37:09

Mexico to the n cua A tournament. He was a

37:11

Mountain West m v P. There was a viral moment

37:13

where his son just went to work.

37:16

House good five house of

37:18

class too and took

37:20

to.

37:21

K I remember a little Jalen man being around

37:24

the locker room with the clippers, and then you know

37:26

there's there's photos of him out there as a youngster

37:28

with KG and there when Eddie played for Boston.

37:31

I love being able to see like our

37:33

our you know, the guys we grew, you know, the guys we play

37:35

in the league with their sons and this this

37:37

next generation of Hoopers.

37:40

Man, So definitely shout out to the house. Is that

37:42

Mike Bibby's nephew, Jalen, Yeah

37:44

yeah, because that's Chelsea.

37:47

Yeah yeah, okay, yeah yeah

37:49

yeah.

37:50

Yeah yeah you do you definitely remember he was definitely around.

37:52

Also want to shout out man. I just saw that

37:54

you could hate if you want people out there,

37:56

but Kim k and her skims man

37:59

them ships taken over. She They had some

38:01

of the top college players on the cover of Slam

38:03

just recently in skims

38:05

and and and she's made her way into the leagues

38:07

and leagues various leagues, I man, so shout out

38:10

her. And then also want to shout out my dog, JJ Reddick

38:12

as he announced him and Lebron are doing a new

38:15

podcast. Man, So I think I

38:18

was excited for obviously jjuse that's my guy.

38:20

And then every you know, everyone wants to hear Broun talk. But it

38:22

just also made me think, like media is changing,

38:25

man, Media is changing, and

38:27

it's so yeah, it's so player

38:30

driven, player heavy. Now that it's

38:33

it's gonna be tough for other people out here to eat pretty

38:35

soon if you're not a former player.

38:37

They've been getting over too long. Bro.

38:40

I love that these motherfuckers are ruined

38:42

a lot of careers with you.

38:43

Know, personal so absolutely,

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I'm.

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Cool with that.

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Did Bron and j play together?

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No, No, I just think I remember

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we're at ESPN. I remember Broun a few times since

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some tweets out and had a lot of respect

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for the way JJ was talking and

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moving. But Booge, it's funny you said that

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that the media bias that one person comes

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in particular is Russell Westbrook. I feel

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like the media fucked up his

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image. I don't think it was him at all,

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because if you know him, you love him, you

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fuck with them, you respect them. But the media,

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the Skip that, the you know, the clowns like Skip Bayless

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out there that continue to talk and disrespect

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and then the media. I mean, you know, fans that aren't

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well educated on the game will follow

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along in suit. So I think that's a perfect example

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of someone who, you know, if you ask his

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peers, a lot of love and respect his

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media pent or his outside perception is

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definitely deterred by the way the media's

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kind of painted him over

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the last handful of years.

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I agree.

39:37

Make sure you can check out Tim Thomas this

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week. Arguably be one

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of the greatest high school players of all

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time. Definitely had a good time sitting down

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with him, I think last month in New York. So

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make sure you guys enjoyed that. You can catch

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this episode on all the

39:53

Smoke Production YouTube and the

39:55

Draft Kings Network. Bugie,

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appreciate your time.

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Appreciate you all boy man, Yes, sir

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always.

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Jacky Sir, appreciate you brother boys.

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Hold it down and we'll see you guys

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next week.

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