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1:49

Hey, you know what brother doing?

1:50

Man?

1:51

Good man, good to

1:53

see you. Man, we we originally did

1:56

this.

1:56

Yeah, yeah, so that's how I wanted to get to it. I mean,

1:58

we really pride ourselves on having authentic,

2:01

real conversations. We can learn

2:03

from the conversation. We can you know, motivate

2:05

from quite down in the back.

2:07

Nate.

2:07

Thanks,

2:10

Well, so we, like you said, we did this show a

2:13

month ago or maybe five weeks ago, and

2:15

you get this after the show and said, hey, let's hold

2:17

it. I want to do a redo.

2:19

Tell me why you felt that way.

2:21

Well, you know, sometimes, man, when

2:23

you do these podcasts and you

2:25

do interviews, sometimes you

2:28

know, depending on the mold you in, you

2:31

might not say some of the things that you wanted

2:33

to say. And sometimes I find myself

2:36

reiterating some of the things that I've already

2:38

said.

2:38

In the interviews.

2:40

People don't seen my interviews a million times

2:42

on YouTube and stuff, so I just

2:44

don't want to say the same thing, right. And when

2:46

I left I realized that, I said, damn, you

2:48

know, because sometimes I want to keep re educating

2:51

people on who I am.

2:53

But it made sense though, because he wasn't there, So it's

2:55

better to.

2:59

Four before stacked stop

3:02

smoking.

3:02

Man, Yeah my bad, I'm going

3:04

to pop this open. Oh yeah, we forgot, We got forgot

3:09

made the chill. Yeah, because the mountains are

3:11

blue, Corse light, Corse

3:13

light. We appreciate you standing on.

3:14

Top of the world. This

3:17

is that mountain drink that was nice

3:19

and cold.

3:22

From Mike Knuggles.

3:23

Anybody got no loation on it?

3:27

Yeah, I work on transmissions when

3:29

I'm here in Indiana and

3:31

I fly chicken over at Pope for

3:37

YouTube light skin to see your ash

3:44

again.

3:44

Just recently, you know, there's headlines

3:47

between you know, you had to stand

3:49

up. You had said some stuff and obviously

3:51

Shannon Sharp in his podcast and Cat

3:54

Williams and all this. You know, it really made headlines,

3:56

broke records. You recently

3:58

got in the man it was telling you how you tell

4:00

jokes, and it started starting

4:03

getting back and forth. But I was glad. I knew it

4:05

would happen. You and Shan't were able to talk

4:07

and figure it out, and that happened. I think

4:09

yesterday. If I'm not minasaken, can you kind of, you know, to tell

4:11

us what it was about, but just how that came about

4:13

and where you guys are at now.

4:15

Well, you know we at the end

4:17

of the day, this is all entertainment, you

4:20

know, that's what this is. We're not selling

4:23

drugs. We're not We're

4:25

not in the underworld. So

4:28

there's some guidelines and rules to.

4:31

The business that we're in.

4:33

And you know,

4:35

at the end of the day, we got families, we

4:37

got kids and stuff like that. So sometime

4:40

we can get out of line, man, you know, and me personally,

4:43

you know, I can get out of line a little bit.

4:46

Well, I said some stuff that I did,

4:49

some of the stuff I shouldn't have say. Some

4:51

of the stuff was good, it was funny.

4:53

Everybody was laughing.

4:54

But then when I went back and looked at it,

4:56

I said, yeah, I kind of crossed

4:58

the line a little bit. But when you grow across the line,

5:00

you're already there. So I just

5:02

didn't expect.

5:05

I just didn't expect the brother to get so mad

5:07

about it, you know. And

5:10

then, like I said on the on

5:12

the podcast, I said, I said,

5:15

a lot of people have been talking about

5:17

them. I mean, I've seen it on Saturday Night Live.

5:19

I seen a lot of Corey Holk on different

5:21

ones. I just was wondering, why,

5:23

you know what I.

5:24

Mean, you got singled out that he and

5:27

then you know, he told me.

5:29

He was like, you know what, Mike, I'm

5:31

gonna be honest with you. It was because

5:34

it was you, he said, because guess

5:36

what the fuck with you? These people out

5:38

here, they're

5:40

damn to do what you tell him to do. So

5:43

when he said that, I.

5:44

Said, damn, you're right man.

5:46

You I didn't look at it that way first,

5:49

And you know, it just brought some light to me,

5:51

man, And you know, I felt bad

5:54

about it, and I wanted to meet up with

5:56

him and personally look him

5:58

in the face and tell him that I

6:00

was sorry because I've been I've been messing with people

6:02

and talk about him since I was a kid.

6:04

You know what I mean. I'm talking about I

6:07

I hold my breath when

6:09

I.

6:09

Was a kid, say I'm about to do

6:11

it, and I'll talk about the bully. I'll

6:13

talk about the dude that shoot everybody and

6:16

all that and say something to them

6:18

that don't nobody say, Man, look at them shoes

6:20

and buff and everybody be laughing, and he'd be looking like

6:22

I'm gonna kill you.

6:24

You know.

6:25

So that's my thing. That's what I do.

6:26

I cried jokes on anybody

6:29

period, right on myself. Gott

6:32

yourself if I go on campra if I'm doing

6:34

That's what I told him too.

6:36

If they jokes, why you gotta apologize to they jokes?

6:39

Well, I

6:41

mean, you know, like I said, Man, it

6:43

wasn't it wasn't.

6:44

It wasn't. Uh.

6:46

It wasn't Shucky Ducky telling the joke. It

6:49

was Mike Epps telling.

6:50

It was Mike Epps that got five

6:53

seasons sitcom on Netflix.

6:55

It was yeah, it was Mike Epps. Got a movie

6:58

out with Snoop right now? It was my got

7:02

a special coming out on Netflix? Is

7:04

Mike f have been in the business for thirty years?

7:07

Is Mike efs that you know?

7:09

Name ho? Wait, name your name hold tawait?

7:12

Yeah, So, so you know it was

7:14

it was Mercedes Bands versus a Hondai.

7:21

You know what I mean, Mercedes being

7:23

said something about me. I got to say

7:25

something about what he's saying.

7:27

You know. That's what happened.

7:28

Man.

7:28

So we shook hands, We made cool,

7:31

and one thing I wanted to show I wanted

7:33

to show these kids.

7:35

That's another way to do it.

7:37

I wanted to.

7:37

Show these kids that guess what, no matter

7:39

how I felt about him and

7:42

how he felt about me, to guess what This.

7:45

Don't have to end in violence.

7:47

And I'm not about to prove myself to

7:50

nobody and mess what

7:52

I worked so hard for to

7:54

show somebody I'm a real nigga.

7:56

Nobody's too big

7:59

to be talked about, though you did the right thing.

8:01

But everybody can be talked about.

8:03

And I talk about everybody.

8:04

Yes, I've talked about I'm talking about I have

8:06

talked about it everybody.

8:09

I'm serious.

8:11

I mean I talked about Shack straight in his face.

8:13

I didn't call him Shrek and all

8:15

kind of laughing.

8:17

I'm thinking that he's gonna laugh too.

8:20

You only get you only get mad like that when someone

8:22

is some true to it dog.

8:24

That's just how I.

8:24

Feel, speaking of I'm

8:26

glad you guys got talking and clean

8:28

your piece up. But your show on HG

8:31

TV with your wife buying

8:33

back the block obviously something that's very important

8:35

to you near and dear to your heart. Speak

8:38

to that show and how important it is that you going back

8:40

in your hometown of doing that. You

8:42

know what me and my wife we did.

8:44

We we we were blessed to be able

8:46

to do this show.

8:48

Uh, you know, I

8:50

bought the houses a long time ago. I

8:53

was buying these houses around here when they was five

8:55

dollars you know what I mean. And

8:57

didn't nobody understand it. They

8:59

like, man, you buying them? As

9:02

I said, Yep, I'm Abaoma ain't gonna just

9:04

gonna set on them because I already know these

9:06

neighborhoods is they got a twenty year playing

9:09

out on them. And then once

9:11

I see, once I start seeing

9:13

a white man and a white lady with their dog walking

9:15

down.

9:16

Oh, I'm in there now.

9:17

They finished, I'm finna get my money

9:19

now when

9:21

the white man ain't scared of the black man no

9:23

more that money you come through there, and

9:26

that's what happened. Man and my wife. Without her

9:28

woman's touch, I couldn't

9:30

have did it. My woman, My woman, My wife

9:33

is the one that put the is Amona.

9:35

You know my wife from Chicago. I'm from Innneapolis.

9:38

I'm a little country compared to her, and

9:40

she put a little city on it. So the

9:42

houses look like you know what I mean,

9:45

Maybe somebody from New York might like it or something

9:48

love it.

9:49

Talk about the upshode Just fucking Mike

9:51

Man. I used to holding this shit.

9:53

Napping to the official price. Mic Man, who's

9:55

doing this? Jack got a drug

9:57

dealer jogging suit on. If I ain't never thank

10:01

God for the NBA.

10:02

When it comes to Jack Man,

10:06

just go.

10:07

Ahead and tell them the story when we first met, for I ask you

10:09

this question.

10:10

As soon as I met Jack, we

10:13

started smoking weed together.

10:17

We went from there right across

10:19

the street to the coach. What

10:21

was the coach, Rick Carlile. I

10:23

pulled a blunt out on Rick Carlile. He

10:30

looking at Jack like, I know, you just just smoke

10:32

with this dude. You better

10:34

leave them alone if you're gonna play with all organization.

10:37

But anyway, we had a good time. They

10:39

had a good time. I took Jack straight to the neighborhood.

10:41

I took him straight to the I wanted to show

10:44

him they got real negroes

10:46

in every.

10:46

City, you know what I mean. It was a small

10:49

little part, but it was.

10:52

It was enough. It was enough. Ship.

10:54

Let's talk about the Upshaws. Congratulations

10:56

on the success of the Upshaws. And

10:58

I'm waiting thank you for my call from

11:00

my cameo.

11:01

We got a I had to get it. I had

11:03

to get to the fifth season to start prove

11:07

myself.

11:08

I got Youngratulations. We talk

11:10

about that. How did that come?

11:11

About you know, the upshaws Man

11:15

was an idea that I thought of. The show was

11:17

based out of this home, out of my hometown,

11:19

Indianapolis.

11:20

Uh.

11:21

And I thought of the idea, and

11:23

I said, man, you know, who could I get

11:25

to be in this with me? And

11:28

I and I went down the list. I thought about Tiffany

11:30

Habish, I thought about Jesse Larry's. I thought

11:32

about all these different ones, and I

11:34

said, well, if

11:36

I want to do a Sam from the Son or George

11:38

Jefferson type show, I need that

11:41

type of comedian. So I thought

11:43

of Wanda Sykes, me and my producing

11:45

partners. I said, Wanda sights, She's perfect.

11:48

So I called.

11:49

Wandas you know, it

11:51

took her about two weeks to call me back. And

11:54

then she finally called me back. She was like,

11:56

yeah, what's up make because that was strange

11:58

to her. Mike yefs call, I don't

12:00

deal with this, nigga. Hey,

12:04

Mike, I said, here, I got an idea. I

12:06

want to do it. Yeah, she said,

12:08

go ahead, tell me what it is. And

12:10

I told her. She said, she

12:13

said, let me think about it. I'm gonna go to my people

12:15

and and she went to her people and thought

12:17

about it and they liked it.

12:19

They liked it.

12:20

We went to Netflix, we sold

12:22

it, and we went and

12:24

got Kim Fields, who is a great actress

12:26

that been in Facts of Life and

12:29

Living Single Favorite.

12:32

Oh man, we got

12:34

we got some characters on the show man,

12:36

you know what I mean? This

12:38

last season we've had everybody, We've had

12:41

faise On Love on the show, and we've

12:44

got a lot of people. Man, I was blessed to

12:46

be able to get I've been trying to get a TV

12:48

show my whole career, so you

12:51

know how many times I've been told no, and

12:53

to be able to get one now, man,

12:56

it was a blessing.

13:01

The current state of comedy right now.

13:04

What you think about it with the cancel culture and

13:06

everybody being so sensitive to jokes and things

13:08

like that.

13:09

What's your opinion on it?

13:11

Well, you know, I think

13:13

as a comedian, you really

13:15

gotta you got a weigh your odds.

13:18

You know, you got you

13:20

got one level of it.

13:24

That makes sense. Every level of it makes

13:26

sense.

13:27

But you got a group of guys over

13:29

here.

13:31

That are You think about Dave

13:33

Chapelle, you think about Kat

13:36

Williams, You think about guys

13:38

like Corey Hoker. These

13:41

dudes are fearless, man.

13:43

These dudes ain't. They

13:45

ain't thinking like I'm thinking. See,

13:48

I'm over there. They over there.

13:49

Saying everything I want to say.

13:52

But I can't mess my money up because

13:56

I got a different I know how to

13:58

act.

13:59

In a movie.

14:00

I know how to yeah, I know how to do TV. I

14:02

know how to produce.

14:04

So I'm over there looking at trying to protect

14:06

that. They don't have nothing

14:08

to do with that. Now, if I take that lane right

14:10

there, it might cut

14:14

that off because you don't see none

14:16

of them dudes crossing over and yeah,

14:18

yeah, yeah, not that they can't.

14:20

Do right right, they're just not not But they got.

14:22

A heart of a lion when it comes to this game.

14:25

You know them guys are I'm telling

14:27

you they fearless man. They go up there and say,

14:31

you know, so, I'll say some crazy stuff,

14:33

but lord Jesus, they

14:36

go hard and I just

14:38

sit back my popcorn. I'm like, boy, they got a

14:40

whole lot of hard man, and

14:42

it works for him.

14:43

They said, look like, has

14:45

then has the genre suffered because

14:47

of this? Because of everybody be so sensitive?

14:50

Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's

14:52

that's uh. You know, when

14:55

you think.

14:55

About Richard Pryor and Red

14:58

Fox and Bernie

15:00

Mack and them kind of guys.

15:01

Man, they wouldn't have made it in

15:03

this time.

15:04

You know, they would have probably just walked

15:07

away from the game, because

15:09

it's a damn shame that you're

15:12

allowed to.

15:14

Do it in a different area

15:18

and you're not allowed to do it in.

15:20

The area that is really you supposed

15:22

to be doing to a Comedians are supposed to be able

15:24

to say whatever we want to say and crack

15:26

a joke.

15:27

I mean a two and a to a

15:29

respect.

15:29

You know what I'm saying.

15:30

You ain't got no ben to talking about, no kids and certain

15:33

stuff you can't say period, even

15:35

with a joke. It'll get you up out of here like

15:37

something comedian. He was just talking about George

15:39

Floyd.

15:39

I don't know who it was.

15:41

David he called. He apologized.

15:44

They could have got an ass whoop, came ass whooping

15:46

in, got.

15:48

The phone calls.

15:48

He apologized just because he wanted to.

15:50

Yeah, you know that. But see you going for the

15:52

laugh. You're going for the shock, and you're going

15:54

for the laugh, you know, so make.

15:57

You feel like I'm going to do rap again. Man, we need the mother

15:59

microphones.

15:59

But explain

16:02

what basketball means to indiwan in your times.

16:05

Shit, man, Indiana basketball, this is

16:07

this is basketball when you talk.

16:09

If you hear basketball in America, it's

16:12

Indiana, you know.

16:15

But you're a Bobby Knife fan.

16:17

Hell yeah, I'm a big I'm a

16:19

Bobby Knife fan in a whole other way, you know

16:21

what I mean. I'm a Bobby Knife fan when

16:24

it comes to the discipline or

16:26

how he was so disciplined and how

16:28

he had them guys brainwashed

16:32

into winning.

16:33

You know, he just didn't have the swag

16:37

that we wanted them. You know what I mean.

16:40

I Bobby would have put his hands on you like he put his hands

16:42

on some people. You

16:44

know.

16:45

I mean at that time

16:47

that they was doing that. The

16:51

black guys wasn't like that. You

16:53

know what I'm saying. Them guys didn't start

16:56

you know when Old Boy and them starts showing

16:58

up. Uh, Derrick Coleman

17:01

and all them. See, that

17:03

wouldn't have worked with Derrick Coleman. That's

17:05

why Derrick Coleman didn't play for Indiana. Certain

17:09

dudes got yeah,

17:11

certain dudes got brought to those

17:13

teams that were that were put

17:15

up with certain stuff.

17:18

What team a player made you love basketball?

17:20

What team made me?

17:21

Team or player that made you love basketball?

17:24

Oh?

17:24

Man?

17:25

You know they always talk about

17:27

all the the regular

17:29

name guys, the

17:32

Michael Jordan's and the Magic Johnson's

17:35

and all that kind of stuff.

17:36

But you know I

17:39

liked it.

17:39

I like guys who really didn't get,

17:43

you know, that much praise that

17:46

were really stronger than the

17:48

dudes who had the names.

17:50

They would get quiet points. They

17:53

was.

17:53

They was great players. You know, dudes

17:58

like Baron Davis. You know what I'm.

18:00

Saying, underrated man, a

18:03

beast out there.

18:04

You know what I mean?

18:05

Uh, what's

18:08

so boy's name to play for Cincinnati?

18:10

Hi?

18:12

Kenya Martin? Man, you know what I'm saying.

18:14

See y'all in that era. To me, when I

18:16

talk about kid like y'all, them,

18:19

y'all the same dudes. That's who I recognize

18:23

is you guys. Them are the real players.

18:25

Other dudes are just you know, they're part of the

18:28

media.

18:29

You week in a week, your

18:31

game week.

18:32

I mean, I could play.

18:33

Better than than than a jail

18:35

nigga or something like that.

18:36

Look behind you, look at this pace behind

18:39

you.

18:41

I don't even talk to East Coast niggas.

18:45

Them niggas is them niggas is over confident.

18:51

I can tell he can play man though he

18:53

cannot.

18:54

He cannot definitely not play.

18:57

Gilly is the only athlete. And they

18:59

fan dog and it's clear, and the whole

19:01

family would say.

19:02

I've seen Gilly, Gilly, Yeah, Gilly

19:05

your damn but I.

19:06

Think he's playing man. He can see

19:08

why, little one of them dudes that can do something,

19:10

but be playing and till until it's

19:12

time to do it.

19:13

And then he got a tender a cl though

19:15

the tender a c l holds the back. It's been tender

19:17

for fifteen years. Damn.

19:20

It's like a little it's like a chicken link

19:23

now like a

19:25

gizzard.

19:26

Remember them little gears that gave me the fact

19:28

if Friday gizzer, your

19:32

mama put about seven of the motheruckers in there.

19:36

Is it fat to say that?

19:37

Uh, Niver and onions.

19:39

Go ahead, Jack.

19:44

Mass potato with their gravy with the salt

19:46

taed onions over there.

19:47

Yeah, yeah, this

19:50

with me and Hugh could really talk about.

19:53

Remember them soups, No,

19:55

no, nigga, the soups, the

19:57

spread ram and soup with

20:00

from Redo's bread. Another

20:03

prison nigga here, yeah, with the cheese,

20:04

the cheese.

20:06

Come on with.

20:08

Huh bread? Bread?

20:10

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah?

20:12

What else? Come in there?

20:12

Will take them a little beef. You put cookies

20:15

in it, chips, come

20:17

on, come on, come on,

20:19

come on.

20:19

And then and then then you take the pack. They

20:22

take the pack of the thing and put it over everything. Come

20:24

on, hold

20:26

on, you gotta get the honey. Then you fold it

20:28

up and let us in for a minute.

20:31

Johell Waller, you can finish.

20:39

He

20:42

ta get on your prison shirt.

20:45

And the other inmates be jealous because they

20:48

can't afford.

20:54

We got like talking about making the spread

20:56

on all this, bro, that's crazy. How do you know

20:58

how to make one in the

21:01

NBA all these years? He knows someone

21:03

like him? That is crazy? Right there?

21:07

Hey, get back to it.

21:08

Is it safe to say that Eddie Murphy and

21:11

Richard Pryor your common inspirations?

21:13

Oh? Man?

21:13

Them was the godfathers right

21:15

there?

21:16

Man?

21:16

I did a I had a chance to.

21:17

I met Richard Pryor before

21:19

he died and set with him

21:22

for a whole year. He couldn't

21:24

talk, but he could, you know, because yeah,

21:26

but he could see in his eyes because he had multiple

21:29

grosses.

21:29

All his muscles was gone.

21:32

But and I did movies with Eddie Murphy,

21:34

so I got a chance to work with the

21:36

Godfathers.

21:37

Man, hear me, that shit is oh man.

21:40

You were impossible talks to play Edie Murphy.

21:42

All right, excuse me Richard Pryor, right.

21:44

Yeah, I was gonna play Richard Pryor man. And

21:46

then his wife I didn't.

21:48

I didn't screw his wife, his ex wife, and

21:50

she got mad, You're.

21:53

Not gonna play Richard.

21:55

You didn't spank that sass.

21:59

I said, no, I ain't playing ship.

22:08

You're going to people's court, nigger, people's

22:11

court.

22:12

People don't.

22:19

Today.

22:25

Uh yeah, man,

22:27

but but I you know what it was. I

22:30

went to Richard Pryor's funeral man, and

22:34

none of his friends got up there and talked

22:36

about him. Paul Mooney,

22:39

none of them people went up there to talk about

22:41

him. Bro Monique

22:44

went up there on the stage, she

22:47

didn't know him.

22:48

And George Lopez went on the stage.

22:51

He didn't know him.

22:53

He wasn't even in the casket. The

22:56

casket was shut.

22:57

We all in there crying.

22:58

She didn't burn them up somewhere. This

23:03

the shit that we was going through. Dana

23:05

Ross just stood up right in the middle of

23:07

the prayer and just fart.

23:11

I swear to God, I'm not poort Hey, I

23:13

can't tell you a lie. She just starts

23:15

singing like she

23:18

had a big ass hat with a net on her

23:21

shit.

23:25

And you know, and guess what, Nigga,

23:28

I get on the stage, right, I'm

23:31

on the stage. I'm coming

23:33

down because I've been on coke for two three nights.

23:37

They think I'm crying for Richard, but I'm crying

23:39

because.

23:39

I've spent high all night. His

23:43

kids is sitting there crying.

23:45

Man.

23:46

So when I seen his kids crying,

23:49

I start crying cause it just made I'm

23:51

like, damn, that's they dad.

23:54

Let me tell you something, bro.

23:56

The lady told me that night, you're not

23:58

ready to play Richard.

24:02

I said, fuck you, BITCHA

24:05

kiss my motherfucking ass.

24:06

I set up there, But you know what

24:09

I told him, though, you know what I told her.

24:10

Now I'm gonna take some real shit.

24:12

I'm gonna tell you what I told her, Steve, and that

24:16

I told her.

24:16

Look here, Steven, I love

24:18

Richel pride. I love him that death.

24:21

But my kids don't know who he is.

24:25

But the little motherfuckers know me.

24:29

So I'm the motherfucker I'm the

24:31

as good as Richard Pride was.

24:33

He was a bad motherfucker.

24:36

These kids they know who they hell Mike f

24:38

See is and that's my

24:40

o G.

24:41

I love him, But the time

24:44

is moved on.

24:46

So if you go see a Richard Prior movie with

24:48

me and it, you're gonna see Mike f play Richard

24:50

Pride.

24:52

Now, for all the old heads that know Richard

24:54

Pride.

24:55

They're gonna be coming in there like, yeah, nigga, you

24:57

better come on with that mudborone.

24:58

Nigga, you better do that shit.

25:00

You know what I'm saying.

25:01

But my age and the kids,

25:04

the kids younger than me, they don't

25:06

know who.

25:06

They said, Mike Ess is playing a comedian on there. I'm

25:08

gonna see this ship.

25:10

That's how that's that's yeah, that's where

25:12

we're at.

25:13

They're gonna say day they too.

25:14

They're gonna kill me with day Day.

25:17

I think that role right there with ice Cube,

25:20

that was the best role that I played

25:22

because I can't get the character off of me.

25:25

Everywhere the character is you boll and.

25:27

So yeah, that's

25:29

that's That's a old mic in the street. That's a lot

25:31

of Mike old mic and the street.

25:33

That's how I played.

25:34

I played all kinds

25:36

of roles. I played

25:39

h drug dealers, I

25:41

played killed. I was just I just

25:43

was in a movie with H Bruce

25:45

Willis

25:49

called.

25:49

I forget the name of it, But I was.

25:51

A ship google

25:54

the motherfucker, But I was.

25:55

I was.

25:56

I was a human trafficker in that the

26:00

was fucked up. Roles that I didn't want

26:02

to play. I did

26:04

when I first got in the business.

26:07

One of the first roles that I played, I

26:09

played a movie with Ben Diesel. It

26:12

was called Strays. It was Ben Diesel's

26:14

first movie. Didn't Nobody

26:16

don't even know who the.

26:17

Fuck he was, that

26:20

ludicrous character, the

26:22

ludicrous.

26:23

In the plaster fewos.

26:25

That should have been me.

26:26

I was Ben Diesels free a long time ago,

26:30

acts of Violence. I was in that movie.

26:32

Man.

26:32

I played a million roles. That's

26:34

why I even played where

26:37

They they told me that I was gay in the

26:39

but I didn't. I said, I'm gonna play the role, but

26:41

I ain't gay.

26:43

What movie was that.

26:46

It was?

26:47

I was in the first episode

26:49

of the Sopranos, the

26:52

Yes Nigga me.

26:54

They said, they said, guess what this is how

26:56

they tricked me? They said, because I

26:59

came in. I read for the motherfuckers. They

27:01

said, you and this dude, y'all stole the

27:03

car. Y'all stole

27:05

the car. Yeah, google it. He said, y'all stole

27:07

the car. I said, okay, we stole the car. He

27:10

and he said, he said, and that's your boyfriend,

27:14

no nigga before the rock before it started,

27:17

and I got offended, and

27:19

the producer pulled me to the side and said, what's

27:21

the problem with you, homophobicos son? I

27:23

said, nah, I ain't homophore, But listen

27:25

to this. This is me moving from

27:27

Indiana to no

27:30

New York nigga. I lived in New York for fifteen years.

27:33

That's where the fuck I moved to New York.

27:36

I moved to New York City and

27:39

when I was twenty one years old, didn't know nobody,

27:41

didn't know nothing, and got fucked around in

27:43

audition for the motherfucker

27:45

sopranos and got the roll.

27:47

Didn't have no money or nothing.

27:49

He said, yeah, he said.

27:50

I said, I ain't got to touch him, do it? He said,

27:53

no, y'all, just you just.

27:54

Gonna be when we come in the house, You're gonna

27:56

holler for him.

27:56

And say Eddie.

27:59

I said, guess what.

28:01

I don't know how to play a gay guy, but I know how to

28:03

talk like my mother. I

28:07

know how to talk just like her. That's

28:10

who I grew up with.

28:12

Just me and my mama.

28:13

So if I want to go into my mama, I

28:17

know how to do that. I said, I'm

28:19

not gonna let that test who I am.

28:21

You know what I'm saying.

28:22

So I did the role, got

28:24

my little money, and moved on, you know

28:26

what I'm saying, and it didn't bother

28:28

me. That's why I can sit

28:30

right here and tell you that I played the role.

28:33

I worked with nothing but gay people in

28:35

Hollywood. Some of the best people

28:37

in the world. Beautiful people save

28:40

your life, probably

28:43

do more for you than the killer will kill

28:46

her. Let you die because he's a killer, but

28:50

the gay dude might hug you a little tighter.

29:01

Y'all gonna have to cut some of this shit because

29:05

I work in Hollywood.

29:06

See, that's why I don't like doing these motherfucking podcasts.

29:08

I'm out here this shit.

29:12

No for real, This is a real education for

29:15

black men out there, black men,

29:17

black men, black men, black men,

29:20

black men.

29:20

You got to learn how to control your mind

29:22

and your emotions. With all

29:25

of this stuff.

29:26

The tough man role is

29:28

gonna fuck your life up. Being

29:32

homophobic, gonna fuck your life up.

29:36

Not growing up and becoming a man

29:38

when you're supposed to, gonna fuck your life

29:40

up. Got all these things

29:43

that a fuck a young man up. This

29:45

is what This is what fucks a young man

29:47

up. I was a young man,

29:50

A light skinned young man around

29:53

dark skinned men. You

29:56

know what kind of fight that is in the fucking

29:58

black community.

30:00

Shit ain't no joke.

30:01

That's why when you go to the penitentiary you run into

30:03

all these light skin killers. A

30:08

bunch of light skin I'm talking

30:10

about.

30:10

Man, you look like I'll be.

30:11

Sure your help.

30:12

I got life with our parole, bro, You

30:15

know what I mean. Because somebody might have touched

30:17

him when he was a kid that made him a monster.

30:20

You see what I'm saying. This

30:22

is what the kids.

30:23

Need to hear. Right here.

30:25

You want to hear some shit. That's some shit

30:27

you need to hear. You're celebrating

30:30

and your your your you're looking

30:32

in the wrong areas. You

30:35

gotta know what you're dealing with. Man, this

30:37

is life. You know what I'm saying.

30:40

If don't nobody teach you life,

30:43

itself is gonna teach you. It'll

30:46

whoop your ass and make

30:48

you humble, Calm you down,

30:51

settle you down.

30:52

Get to do all of that to you.

30:55

I've been through hey, I've been on drugs. I've been

30:57

through hell. You know what I'm

30:59

saying. I did most of the movies on cocaine,

31:02

all about the benjamins.

31:03

I was.

31:04

Man.

31:04

I used to sit in ice Cubes trailer in the morning

31:06

and be crying tears.

31:08

He like, wife face, Man,

31:11

you a king nigga, Stop doing

31:13

this shit to yourself.

31:14

I'm sitting there wiping myself because.

31:16

I was really, really, really, I

31:20

was really I had survivors remorse.

31:22

I was so sad that I left all them

31:24

niggas here in this city and I was

31:27

famous, and when I would come home,

31:30

I wanted them to be happy for me, and

31:32

they was mad at me. So

31:34

I said, Damn, I gotta destroy myself

31:36

to you to like me. I

31:39

was like, damn, my favorite nigga. It seemed

31:41

like he liked me more. When I'm coming down off

31:43

coke and I'm crying and I hate myself,

31:46

he was like, oh, man, I love you, nigga.

31:48

I'm praying for you. But when I

31:50

wasn't high and I was working out and I looked

31:52

good. He's like, nigga, you think you better

31:55

than me?

31:56

I said, nigga, how was my success of reflection

31:59

of your failure?

32:01

And that's what happens to the kids.

32:04

They around here killing theirself,

32:06

trying to fit in with.

32:08

Somebody who's fucked up. That's

32:11

the truth. Now, I'm a comedian,

32:14

we supposed to be laughing.

32:16

I've been laughing the whole time.

32:18

And the conversation that went there like

32:20

that all good because because

32:23

comedians are dark people.

32:24

Man, we're dark. Cat Williams I

32:26

got, I blessed her.

32:27

I pray for that brother, Man, I

32:30

pray for that brother, because that's some serious

32:32

shit.

32:34

The ship that he did on that podcast.

32:38

Man, we better hope all

32:40

the people that he said ain't no killers,

32:44

because he ain't gonna know who hit him. They

32:47

got money, they know niggas.

32:50

It just take one of them to wake up in the morning and say,

32:53

you know what, that's it.

32:54

But then again, you know a lot of a lot of

32:56

those people that he said something about,

32:59

they probably ain't bothered, cause you know, you don't

33:01

really they don't move you for the truth.

33:03

I mean, either way, man.

33:04

You know what I mean.

33:05

Everybody moves different, man, You know what I

33:07

mean. And that's what I'm saying.

33:08

That negativity sells like that.

33:11

Yeah, that's unfortunate.

33:12

It's sell people.

33:13

People are drawn to that, to the negative

33:15

they are.

33:16

That's why I had to go shake a

33:18

shiner's hand because I can't

33:20

control these dudes out here that

33:23

all just go try to do something to him

33:25

just to it ain't even for me. He's

33:28

just all man, Yeah, I'm man. I'm like, you ain't riding

33:30

for me. I don't even know you.

33:32

You see what I'm saying.

33:34

Just like some dudes wanted to come down here and buy some weed

33:36

for Steve, and I say, he don't sell weed.

33:40

Anymore.

33:41

Man, I want a pound from him. Man, I'll

33:43

be watching any smoke.

33:44

Man I swum buy a pound.

33:45

I see he don't sell weed no more. There

33:48

he is right there.

33:49

You just roll like, bro,

33:53

what was your great what's the greatest stand up comedy

33:55

seat of all time?

33:57

Shit?

33:58

Man?

33:58

Which one underrated? It never faded

34:01

in Detroit? If you ain't never

34:03

seen it, go watch it again. That's

34:06

the best one. That's the best one.

34:08

To me.

34:09

I'm tired of giving everybody else praise. That's

34:11

why I ain't getting these jobs. You gotta patch yourself

34:13

on the back. Oh yeah, I'm the baddest motherfucking

34:16

comedy right now, I'm

34:18

the realest nigga in comedy. I'm the baddest

34:20

one, right and mostly and most

34:23

definitely the best looking one.

34:26

Ugly ass niggas getting all this money, and I

34:28

ain't getting on fucking

34:31

rich ugly turtle looking ass niggas.

34:33

I'm sitting right here, ain't getting a dime.

34:37

White women walk right past me and get with a

34:39

turtle, Give.

34:41

It a turtle. When did you

34:43

know you had arrived in the comedy space?

34:45

Was it a set? Was it a bit? Was it like? When did

34:48

you know? Like, Okay, I've arrived as a comedy.

34:50

When child Support Clark called me.

34:53

As soon as my baby mama had a fort

34:56

nate for me, I said, I made it.

34:58

She's trying to get a raise. Oh

35:01

shit, increased that increase.

35:03

Increase a lot of

35:05

kids there. Everybody

35:07

else will know about the increase. It's always for the kids.

35:10

Yeah, I got another court

35:12

date. I said, did you give

35:14

the kids the money? Because

35:17

my daughter is still asking me for money. I

35:20

only get five hundred dollars, five

35:22

hundred dollars. You

35:25

know how much I send your mama for you that

35:28

ain't in your account.

35:31

This is fucked up.

35:34

They do nothing about it either.

35:35

I remember one summer in seventeen win

35:38

a championship and I rented a house on Doheani for

35:40

the summer, and I was working out and running the hills

35:42

and I ran into Russell Simmons,

35:44

And you remember he used to have his little card right then.

35:46

It was a card card.

35:49

Come and get your rest card.

35:53

Hey, everything. I love that figure Rush.

35:56

I was just a bullshit.

36:00

That's how Russell say, like rust

36:03

Abon Crockett kills bro.

36:06

Damn, I'll be figuring that man, great

36:09

impersonator. No, but I was talking about making

36:11

like a child support card where every time

36:14

you swipe it go like it has to go to the kids

36:16

to be able to credit card like that for some transparency,

36:19

because we all been in a position where we gave

36:21

a bunch of money away and the kids ain't seen none of you.

36:23

They're gonna figure out how way to scam that. They

36:26

don't have a fake ass kid there.

36:29

Yeah, I'm a yeah, standing

36:31

here, I'm gonna show they

36:35

get the money.

36:36

Get the money. Run hurry up. Yeah,

36:39

man, that's real. Man.

36:40

But I think y'all got

36:43

most of the bullshit out of me.

36:45

Yeah, ask some other ship.

36:47

Now we gotta we gotta edit all the other

36:49

stuff.

36:50

Got you.

36:50

We got you, Yeah because we got Yeah,

36:52

because ship, we got you. The A, B, C,

36:54

D, E, F G, H, I j K, Elemental Peak

36:57

Community get.

36:58

You

37:00

Black Dug, Black

37:03

Dug from the Hangover.

37:04

I wasn't playing black dug.

37:06

Man.

37:06

I was the only black dude on the set.

37:10

And Todd

37:12

Phillips was the director, and

37:15

uh, it was a

37:17

bunch of white people on the set. When

37:20

I tell you, I was the only black person

37:22

on the set. It

37:24

wasn't one black person there with me. We

37:26

was way out in the desert.

37:29

I just went and found me a little corner and sat over

37:31

there. Man, And I remember

37:33

my first scene. This

37:36

is how, this is how I realized

37:38

that black

37:40

humor and white humor is

37:43

totally different. So

37:45

the first scene, they said ActionAid and

37:48

it was my turn. And man,

37:50

when I went into the scene, it was like I was

37:52

in a Friday movie.

37:53

I was and

37:56

they said cut and it was quiet.

37:59

All the white people's looking at me like this

38:03

is how this is how the crew was walking.

38:08

I was like, damn. I

38:11

was like, what happened?

38:13

I was like the mockers, the laughing at me. Now,

38:15

this is some ship.

38:16

If I was in an ice Cube movie, they

38:19

would have been on the floor.

38:21

Man.

38:21

I tried that ship in that white movie.

38:24

They didn't laugh as ship. I

38:27

said, oh shit, I gotta do something, so

38:30

I adjusted myself. I said,

38:32

guess what I found out with

38:34

white people in comedies? Less

38:37

his best, less his best, don't

38:39

do that much because

38:42

I learned that on Deaf Comedy Jam. When you when I

38:44

did Death Comedy Jam black audiences,

38:46

they fall off the chairs. This

38:49

is how black people la take,

38:51

get up, run you know what I mean? Like

38:54

they used to Pelle did on that That shit

38:56

is real. White people say ha ha

38:58

ha,

39:04

and then they'll come to you after the show you were amazing.

39:08

I'm like, you can't.

39:09

I can't tell, motherfucker, you weren't laughing laughing?

39:12

How the fuck was that amazing? And you wouldn't laugh.

39:14

White people are gonna kill me, man, because

39:17

I joke with them all the time.

39:18

And then I'll be their friend when black people ain't

39:21

around.

39:26

White people like I'm not I'm

39:28

not gonna believe that shiit anymore.

39:30

I've seen how you work with the black people.

39:36

You're one of the comedians that that that have

39:38

kind of made a living in and and and honed

39:40

your craft around roasting the audience.

39:43

Oh yeah, talk to us about that and how

39:45

affected that's been for you.

39:47

Man.

39:47

If I catch if I catch a

39:49

nigga walking in that show down

39:53

that aisle and he ain't got

39:55

the right shit on, I'm, oh lord,

39:57

I'm.

39:58

Gonna tear his ass.

40:00

Uh him and this

40:02

girl I didn't roasted couples.

40:05

One two for one.

40:09

I said, look

40:11

at this fat unicorn and this uh,

40:16

look at this bag of blood walking through here.

40:19

When the one when you said about all the chicks

40:22

and the looking like wrestlers in this pandemic,

40:24

ye, I said,

40:26

it's a whole lot of girls with the bodysuits on.

40:28

It looked like a bunch of wrestlers in here.

40:35

Oh ship, you

40:38

know man.

40:39

Because I'm you know, I'm one of them dudes.

40:41

I ain't trying to go down in history. Man.

40:43

All these dudes.

40:44

Want to be legendary, and

40:46

the goats and all that weird ass.

40:49

Ship.

40:50

It's like, man, get the fuck

40:52

out of here. Just do the work.

40:55

You know what I'm saying. I'm so tired of everybody

40:59

trying to be the back. I'm

41:01

like, God, le man, this

41:03

business is fucking high school,

41:05

dude, and I didn't graduate, so

41:08

that'll tell you.

41:10

This ship is high school.

41:11

And if you can remember high school, they

41:13

had the same motherfuckers

41:16

in the business.

41:17

You had bad kids, you

41:20

had good kids. You

41:22

had the little snitches that ran to the

41:24

teacher's aid and all.

41:25

Them little Well I'm serious.

41:28

You had the.

41:30

The athletes, you had the

41:32

special leg I'm a special d I

41:34

was a special ed.

41:35

You had the helmet on.

41:37

Now, hell no, nigga, we ain't wear no helmets.

41:39

He said. I wasn't that

41:42

bad.

41:43

That's another level of it. But

41:46

I was in them.

41:46

I was in the class. Tell me about you

41:49

was in the class with it, So go ahead tell the story.

41:51

Well, the dude didn't have a helmet on. It was

41:53

like it was like a head brace. It

41:56

really wasn't a full helmet. But

41:58

I was in the class, is said,

42:01

Look at him. Yes, I

42:03

taught myself how to read and write as an adult.

42:07

I'm not lying.

42:08

And let me tell you something, man, I'm not

42:11

against the nigga. But if you tell me I

42:13

can't read, I'll kill your motherfucking ass.

42:17

I don't play that ship.

42:18

That's the trigger.

42:19

You tell me something about some education, I'm

42:21

mad because that's my insecurity.

42:24

That's what really hurts me. Did I

42:26

You know what I mean? I just didn't pick it up. I

42:28

didn't collect it.

42:30

You know.

42:32

And see now, the only thing that makes me feel

42:34

good about the fact that I had a

42:36

problem reading and writing because

42:38

I got some money in the bank. I don't give a fuck about

42:40

reading and write. I pay somebody to

42:42

read that shit. Read that ship right there out

42:45

loud.

42:47

I can hear you.

42:49

If I got an accountant, if

42:52

I'm dealing with an accountant to deal with my money,

42:56

no, yeah, and I feel like I can't

42:58

keep up with my money. You know what I'm going I'm

43:01

gonna drop a pistol on the floor and

43:04

say I'm sorry about that and put it in my

43:06

pocket.

43:08

That money gonna be right.

43:10

They're gonna say this nigga didn't dropped the gun in here.

43:13

I bet not steal nothing from this nigga.

43:16

Fact, Hey, I gotta play games

43:18

like that.

43:18

When you can't really do man for shit, you

43:21

see this pistols. Don't you don't you fuck with that money?

43:24

Oh shit, is hurting

43:27

ice Cube? How instrumental has he been in? What kind

43:29

of friendship do you guys have?

43:30

Man, that's my dog for lice Man. I love

43:33

ice Cube. Man, ice Cube gave me my first

43:35

job. He gave

43:38

me five thousand dollars as soon as I've

43:40

seen even he knew I was broke.

43:41

He said, Man, you and your girl go to Magic Mountain.

43:46

You don't remember Magic Mountain?

43:48

That nigga gave me five thousand. My

43:55

girl got dressed just alike and

43:58

went to Magic Mountain.

43:59

Yeah, that's how they be doing the full

44:01

five airbusty

44:04

shirt.

44:07

And some niggas from the forties try to bang on

44:09

me. Nigga, I had some red shit on where

44:11

you found cause.

44:12

I said, the movies, nigga,

44:15

the movie business, my

44:17

motherfucking gang nigga.

44:19

Oh shit, did

44:27

you feel pressure coming in

44:30

after what Chris Tucker did in the First Friday

44:32

Ever? You came in, yeah, and

44:34

did your thing, but you felt there was a lot of pressure.

44:36

Hey, man, Chris Tucker did such

44:38

a great job in that movie as Smoky.

44:41

They was looking at me like you better kill this

44:44

shit. You did though, John Witherspoons,

44:49

he.

44:49

Was looking at me like this and

44:54

it was real quiet. Ill

44:57

went to Cube. I said, man, this shit ain't working.

45:00

He said, it ain't time for you to be funny yet.

45:02

I said, huh.

45:03

He said, yeah, that scene right there is just the lead.

45:07

It's gonna be your time to get funny.

45:09

When I when I went down there and said, man, y'all,

45:11

tell y'all, y'all, she sprayed me and all

45:14

that.

45:14

She sprayed me the faith that was when I was on

45:16

right there, I was on. It was

45:18

gone, told

45:20

me.

45:21

It was on.

45:21

Then it was on my

45:24

first movie I did. I bought my mother washing

45:26

drive man. My mother

45:28

bought my mother washing drive man. She was living

45:30

in some apartments. I said, Mama with you.

45:32

I said, Mama, want to buy your house.

45:34

She said, no, just buy me a washing

45:36

drive.

45:38

She said, I'm tired of them women at the Linda met

45:41

telling me you ain't my son, that

45:43

ain't your son.

45:44

I said, fuck dam you ain't gotta see them no more.

45:46

I bought a washing drive that's dope.

45:48

And I tried to buy a house and she said, no, you

45:50

ain't gonna fuck my social security up. Because

45:53

she was getting like seven hundred dollars a month at the time,

45:58

it was getting seven hundred a month, and

46:00

she said, if the if them

46:02

people see that you are giving me

46:04

money in an account, they might cut

46:06

my social Security back.

46:08

So I you know what I mean, I just couldn't do it.

46:11

The whole light waiting on that Social Security. You ain't

46:13

gonna fuck that up?

46:14

And no, fuck it.

46:15

Yeah, because my mother was looking at it like you might

46:17

not be in the business loan you

46:20

only did two movies, nigga, don't go to buying

46:22

houses and shit, you

46:24

ain't out to.

46:25

Clear Yeah,

46:27

who is Mike outside of comedy?

46:29

What's your hobbies?

46:31

Right now? I'm a nanny.

46:34

I'll had kids again.

46:35

I love it and.

46:36

I'm fifty three years old. I went and

46:38

had two more kids, two

46:41

and four. Oh, I

46:44

got baby babies, so you know

46:46

what I mean. Hopefully God will

46:48

give me another thirty years, so they'll be at least

46:50

thirty or something when I leave Earth.

46:53

You know what I mean.

46:53

They'll get to beat and had a dad, not

46:56

an old one, but I mean, not a They ain't gonna

46:58

have me for a long time, but.

47:00

You know what I mean. But my kids a beautiful

47:02

man. I had a son the

47:04

day my mother died.

47:06

My mother died twenty twenty COVID.

47:10

My son was born the same time. Bro

47:12

and I never had a son. He

47:14

looked just like my mama. Man, I swear

47:16

that's how No, God's real gave

47:19

me a son. My mama gave me a son walking

47:21

out the door.

47:22

Man, that's beautiful.

47:23

I used to cry all the time to ask God what happened?

47:25

What did I do wrong that I can't have a son.

47:27

But I know what it was.

47:28

I lied all these women and got them pregnant

47:31

and sold them dreams and shit like that.

47:35

You got five girls.

47:36

To let you know I was lying.

47:37

I'd be lying too, I've been doing to That's

47:39

one.

47:39

Thing that I'm gonna get right before I leave this

47:41

earth.

47:42

I'm gonna learn how to treat a woman

47:44

one hundred percent right, dope,

47:47

because I that's that's

47:49

something that I want to do for

47:52

my mother, for my children,

47:54

for my daughters. I never

47:57

treated a woman right, one hundred

47:59

percent. And now that

48:01

I'm getting older, I'm realizing, Man, you

48:03

gotta treat a woman right, Mike, you

48:07

gotta.

48:07

You can't.

48:08

You can't cheat on her. You you gotta

48:10

you gotta be a friend. You

48:13

gotta not be selfish.

48:16

This is what I want to do. This is one of my dreams.

48:18

Man.

48:19

That's something we have to learn this, man, that's

48:21

something we really have to learn. I have.

48:22

I had issues with my mother, so

48:25

now I want to make

48:27

a woman. I don't want my kid's

48:29

mother to you know what, I mean to have my mother

48:32

stuff. So that's

48:34

one of my things I want to do. Man, because I've been

48:36

listening to Pimp music and ship my whole life.

48:38

You have to a ball m J G

48:41

S Nigga and you

48:43

GK too short, pimpc You

48:46

know what I mean that ship?

48:47

I have you talking ship to a girl.

48:51

So you know what I'm talking about.

48:53

You like

48:58

like powder baby Padder.

49:00

Yeah,

49:03

I sat that movie where Met the Man and

49:05

I was on cocaine that movie too. I

49:09

was snarting and tooting and pooting and scooping

49:11

in that movie too.

49:13

Oh now I'm fifty three.

49:15

I don't do nothing to smoke weed, drink course.

49:17

Like, okay, there you go, shut

49:19

course, hang out with real potential billionairess

49:22

made the chill, chill.

49:25

These are potential bill billionaires right

49:27

here. These are these are these are men. You

49:29

guys are moving the culture because

49:33

you using your you

49:35

know, it's it's way bigger than basketball,

49:39

y'all, way bigger than basketball.

49:40

Man.

49:41

Matter of fact, this might be better than your

49:43

basketball career. Yeah,

49:46

the basketball career was a commercial

49:48

for what you're doing.

49:49

Now.

49:50

I love it.

49:51

You know, even close

49:53

we appreciated in this space. We

49:55

wasn't appreciated when it was in the NBA for

49:57

real.

49:58

Huh.

49:59

But see now y'all get to realize how

50:01

many real people loved

50:04

y'all in the game, Like y'all

50:06

stood up for something that guys

50:09

was like, Yeah, that's.

50:10

What I'm talking about. When I see y'all.

50:14

Fighting and standing up and

50:16

being raw real dudes in

50:18

the game, I'm like Wolf, he's

50:21

still.

50:21

Trying to kick somebody's ass. And

50:25

this fool here when

50:27

you was up there and the thing and you man, I'm

50:29

talking about it when

50:31

you.

50:33

Like and

50:36

I was throwing the mother I

50:38

was trying to help somebody.

50:40

No, nigga, you was throwing some shit.

50:42

I ran. I ran six.

50:45

Rolls up so if I wanted to hit somebody, I

50:47

could hear somebody in every row on the way.

50:48

Up to raw.

50:49

That's what made me fall in love with you. Boy.

50:51

You went you went hard, you went hard,

50:54

you was golfriend, you went hard,

50:56

you was going hard, and

50:59

well what my metalworld

51:01

piece? He just looked like he was on now later.

51:03

He was like this now, ladies, and

51:07

the dude was grabbing the shirt and.

51:12

He looked like Jolly Ranchers. He was

51:14

hyped up and the turk was

51:16

poor. His eyes

51:19

was big.

51:19

He was on him now later.

51:20

Hey man, when when when you see

51:22

a guy like Ben Wallace getting mad

51:25

and each second he's getting mad and he's

51:27

getting bigger and bigger, you're gonna start looking

51:29

crazy too and be coming your way.

51:31

Ben.

51:31

Ben was huge, bro, Ben was coming

51:33

at you.

51:34

And now I'm just sat that run. That's why Roun was looking

51:36

like that. You got somebody like Ben coming

51:38

at you, you're gonna be spooke too. He was soft

51:40

though, who being not at all

51:42

no dice, No, he was no

51:45

dice and being if you see

51:47

this, no, don't.

51:48

Start that ship. I thought you a

51:50

soft nigga.

51:51

No, not him.

51:54

He got that mask on. I don't even know that was him. He

51:56

was there.

51:57

He was at a front row seat to everything right

52:00

in the mixed world.

52:01

Shot out Worldwide West in the building, Man, World

52:03

Wild.

52:03

West, shout

52:06

shout out to my real nigga biggie boogie cousins

52:09

up in this small record too. Man.

52:11

That's another that's another hog right

52:13

there.

52:13

You know what I'm saying represent.

52:15

The building as well.

52:18

Yeah, well that's uh, Mike,

52:20

we want to get you out of here so quick

52:22

quick hit his first thing to kind of mind childhood

52:24

crush. Who is your childhood crush?

52:27

My childhood crush?

52:28

Man? It

52:30

was a lady on BT man named Rachel

52:33

Man. They used to do. Uh, she

52:36

was like a Jamaican You don't remember Rachel.

52:38

Used to be on BT Caribbean.

52:42

Yeah,

52:47

what was the show though? What was it called?

52:49

It was a corporate on BT You remember

52:51

that?

52:53

Oh Man?

52:53

I loved her.

52:54

Rachel's bad and for the white girls, I

52:57

liked the boat, Derek.

52:59

Remember both there.

53:03

The fair con't be watching this too, brother.

53:13

I need to talk to you about some ship you

53:15

said on the podcast.

53:19

Oh God, damn, I'll be seeing

53:22

I'll be seeing every black Let me tell

53:24

you something.

53:24

All the black dudes be talking about a

53:27

little black sisters to all

53:29

the niggas want a white girl too.

53:33

White women don't believe this All

53:35

black men, won't you.

53:39

They just don't want to get caught with you.

53:45

Yeah, what's from the stool man ship?

53:50

The white people coming at me?

53:51

Now? Oh god, you

53:55

think was on your ass?

54:03

Uh?

54:04

Top five comedians all.

54:05

Time, Top five comedians

54:07

all time, Richard

54:10

Prime, Eddie

54:12

Murphy, Robin

54:14

Harris, marn Lawns,

54:18

my motherfucker herself.

54:19

There you go, Yeah, how

54:22

you go? There you go? Can

54:25

you compare or

54:27

describe your hoop game to a player current

54:30

or past? Who is your game like?

54:31

Thinas, Robert r Robert

54:34

big shot, No Greek three brother, that's

54:41

who your game like?

54:43

Status? Okay?

54:46

If I do tell me to

54:48

do something, you can tell if I can play ball?

54:50

You're ro step?

54:52

What's that that's

54:57

traveling?

55:00

Want this ship right here? This

55:04

ship up? That

55:07

was a year you got you got

55:09

it, you your you might have put extra conception

55:11

and that was oh

55:14

ship you

55:19

want that?

55:19

I want to see that back down?

55:20

Yeah, back the

55:23

way you

55:27

didn't You the worst than wallow down. You're

55:30

the worst. Look way worse than you. Wallow

55:32

wallow wallowed cookie bro.

55:34

What about this one here.

55:39

That like something that looked like something

55:41

that looked like something that looked like something.

55:45

That was nice.

55:46

You see

55:54

his landing. You see the landing.

55:57

That was a nice left too. I saw that r

55:59

left right, sit out, broound

56:02

out your left right there

56:04

like that best

56:07

Snooping story you can share with us. My

56:09

man, this dude bro he tired. Uh,

56:13

I'm tired for they steps.

56:16

Oh man, oh, this Snoop

56:19

story. If

56:21

we was we used to do these car rides.

56:24

We used to get in our cars, go

56:27

up on Santa Monica. Find

56:29

a lot. Everybody just parking

56:31

the cars here with Percy, with

56:33

Percy, remember Percy with.

56:35

The little blonde braids with

56:37

the glasses.

56:38

Come, yeah, I'm

56:41

sitting in the car with Snoop.

56:44

And were smoking.

56:48

Police jump behind us.

56:50

Snoop Dog get in trouble though.

56:52

Listen, this fucked me up. Police

56:55

walked up to the car.

56:56

Nigga like, yeah, what I

56:58

do?

56:58

Uh?

57:00

To the cops, I'm like, damn,

57:04

I tried that ship well

57:06

by yourself, went to.

57:08

Jail and Harthorne. Nigga, he took me to jail.

57:11

Lock me up a ship

57:14

that I tried it tried ship.

57:20

Get your ass out of their card, nigga.

57:24

M and I love y'all.

57:26

Man, y'all bring the best out of me.

57:28

Man, appreciate that.

57:29

We appreciate hearing me.

57:30

Man.

57:31

Dog, y'all bring the best out of nigga.

57:34

I got the best underdog on TV

57:36

right now, right on Amazon. Yeah, Underdog,

57:39

Underdog, Underdog him

57:41

and snoop great, that is funny.

57:43

Let's keep snooping our prayers. His brother passed.

57:46

Man, what a great dude.

57:48

His brother Ban was a nice dude too.

57:50

Man recipes being fixed

57:53

them dog in our prayers.

57:55

Guess dinner alive? You at dinner plus five?

57:59

Huh? You you plus five

58:01

more at dinner? Dinner alive.

58:03

When that sounded like, oh,

58:09

we gotta gets more.

58:11

Definitely, my mother and father love

58:13

it. My mother and father, you

58:15

know what I'm saying. Definitely at the table. Oh,

58:19

I would have loved to eat

58:21

dinner with Malcolm X. I

58:25

would have laughed, loved to eat dinner

58:28

with a Tupac.

58:32

And I

58:36

would have loved.

58:37

To have had a little red wine

58:39

and broke a piece of bread with Jesus,

58:43

a.

58:43

Piece of bread and a little wine with him.

58:45

Hey, Mike was just telling us about a rider gang experience.

58:48

You have a dog, man, If you don't get

58:50

your neck and eyes out of here.

58:54

What's up, Percy Low?

58:58

Man, I can't call it, man.

58:59

They talk about the name all over the world.

59:01

Man, I'm just trying to dangny

59:05

on.

59:07

Now. That'll get you me too, person.

59:11

Talking about being on somebody.

59:15

I'm just trying to do the damn

59:19

Hya the Miller Show. I just got you real

59:21

quick, man.

59:23

Were an all Star weekend and in Annapolis.

59:26

Man, Man, okay, going down.

59:28

Man, this ain't been here since nineteen eighty

59:30

five.

59:30

I was fifteen years old when they did it.

59:33

It was a dude named Tarnce Stansbury that

59:35

won the dunk contests. He was

59:37

cold, didn't get no props, used

59:39

to jump out the ceiling. Skinny dude. He

59:42

did the uh the three sixty

59:44

three sixty Yeah, off one foot and

59:47

spin.

59:48

Damn, I bet you can do it.

59:51

She I bet I tell

59:53

him that.

59:53

Let me do it. No, you know what I'm

59:56

saying. Come on, heme on, brother, brother,

59:58

come on, you go have a tender all

1:00:01

right? Yeah, all

1:00:05

right, Damn

1:00:08

man, you

1:00:11

could see one guest on all the smoke.

1:00:12

Who would it be? But but you

1:00:14

have to help us get your answer on the show

1:00:17

for.

1:00:17

Somebody in your phone book? Who's in your phone?

1:00:19

But who would I love to see on all

1:00:21

the smoke in your see

1:00:24

Oh man, you

1:00:26

know.

1:00:29

I would love to see Corey hol Come on here.

1:00:32

I'm a big fani Corey holcome. That

1:00:35

was my partner right there. Me and Corey.

1:00:37

Corey used to start conning. He used to come to New

1:00:39

York. Me and him used to ride

1:00:41

the trains to the show. And

1:00:44

Corey had you know, he's from Chicago. We had leather

1:00:47

jacket on we on the train. Man,

1:00:50

I'm telling I got some cold stories man. Me,

1:00:52

Me and Tracy Morgan. We started together.

1:00:55

Well, Tracy was doing it before me, but

1:00:57

he used to come and pick me up.

1:00:59

He had a little mobs.

1:01:00

It was raggedy as hell, and

1:01:02

he be bumping Jodie seeing there.

1:01:04

Yo.

1:01:06

We get in the car and I remember

1:01:08

when he got the Martin Show.

1:01:10

He was crying.

1:01:11

I said, what's wrong?

1:01:11

He said, Man, Lawn just called me niggle.

1:01:16

I'm going to do the More show. He

1:01:19

went and did Martin when he came back.

1:01:21

When he came back and hustled, Man, he

1:01:23

was just sitting there man and telling

1:01:25

me Man, moors Man.

1:01:28

The ship almost made me crush. Had

1:01:30

the biggest house, looked like a hotel.

1:01:33

Damn man, I said, damn,

1:01:36

Tracy, that was some good ship. He looked

1:01:38

at me and shit, you ain't seen nothing

1:01:40

yet.

1:01:44

But there was some. There was some humble beginners.

1:01:46

Man.

1:01:47

I didne walked up on so many

1:01:49

entertainers and they don't remember me.

1:01:52

I seen I seen Biggie standing in

1:01:54

the in the in the in the uh.

1:01:57

It was called Chads and Wilson's. It was a club in

1:01:59

New York. He had that leather shirt on.

1:02:01

With the B on it. I said, man,

1:02:03

I love your work.

1:02:04

Man.

1:02:04

You look.

1:02:07

These are just candid moments I had

1:02:09

with people. And they didn't even the don't you

1:02:11

know what I mean? I seen I seen Tupac

1:02:13

at the Comedy Act.

1:02:15

Theater in Atlanta.

1:02:18

He coming there. He had a white rag on his head.

1:02:20

This after he shot the police. This

1:02:24

is I'm I'm a young comic. I

1:02:26

ain't even own yet. But they had a comedy

1:02:28

club called the Comedy Act Theater in Atlanta

1:02:31

that all the stars used to come through

1:02:33

there.

1:02:33

That's when Atlanta was this hit, when.

1:02:36

It was freak Nick and the Comedy

1:02:38

Act Theater. Man Tupac used

1:02:40

to come in there too short.

1:02:42

They had a they had.

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A group called Tag Team. You remember Tag

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Team? Back again?

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Check in the record.

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Let's begin them niggas was drug dealers,

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that song was some boys shit, the

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niggas is pulling up and amg bens

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is that?

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Man?

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That motherfucker was live. Man, I

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got a chance to see that shit, you

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know, and didn't nobody know me.

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I was just a quiet mouse sitting there soaking

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up the game. Man. You know what I mean?

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Well, you gotta you said you got a Netflix special

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coming out center.

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I got a Netflix special call I'm ready

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to sell out.

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Yep, that's really today. That's

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the name of it.

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And the reason why I said that is because

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I have per se been

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a real nigga so long that

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it's not paying the.

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Way I wanted to pay.

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So I'm watching all these dudes getting all this money

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and stuff and I'm trying to figure out how to get it.

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I'm not putting on a dress.

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I was just about to say that, So I'm.

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Not putting on a dress and

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I'm not physically doing

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nothing for it.

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But whatever happened outside of that, you game?

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I mean, Well, when I say sellout is like,

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you know, whatever, whatever it the

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real nigga thing.

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It ain't paying me.

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It ain't the real nigga

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checked then ran out.

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I disagree.

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Well when I say that, When I say that,

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when I say that, it

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limits you. You see and

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see.

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Now I'm adding

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this up with my age, Steve. I'm

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at an age where I'm at a different

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age of you.

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I'm looking down to hell, so

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my mentality is different. I'm like, damn,

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and I'm not really saying sellout.

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I'm gonna still be the same person, but I

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gotta play the game a little bit more, man, I

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gotta play the game.

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Man.

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I didn't get in this business to rebel

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and bucket everything. I got in

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this business to learn about it. I

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didn't proved everybody I'm a real dude.

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I didn't showed that a million times. Now it's

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time for me to show everybody. I'm a good

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father, I'm a businessman. I'm a good

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friend. I can be trusted so that

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I can get better opportunities.

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It man, thank you Mike.

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We appreciate giving

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up for Mike. Cap you naptown.

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This episode might not come out, so if you were

1:05:11

here, good thing, you can hear the

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club real