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Thoughts, I'm booking bruntson.
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Man, you got a better chance believing that a dragonfly
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fing to deliver you at peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
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Nigga, I don't believe that shit. What
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did j Will say? You got a better chance
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of pissing in a hot sauce bottle.
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Shout out to j Will, Welcome
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back.
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To unplug our weekly
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look around and
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Jack, there's some shit going on right now.
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But man, first of all, how are you?
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I'm good? My brother can't complain. How you
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Man? I can't call him.
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Man. Just got back from Memphis.
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First lag at eybl team played really
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well, Twins played really well. Man decided
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I'm getting to coach from my homeboy Moose as well. So
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I got a robby plane ride. Man,
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that was crazy. So shout out Mark Cuban. Man.
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So our flight got
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delayed out of LA, missed the connect
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and then wouldn't have got us in until
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after the first game. We had a Friday
1:00
night game. I'm like, I can't miss my son's first Eybo
1:03
game. So I hit Mark Cuban as I
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was sitting in the airport, and motherfucker hit me back in
1:07
less than thirty seconds, Jack, that's why he's
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stay on the ship. He put me with some lady,
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then connect me to another lady and
1:14
shit. An hour later, I'm on a PJ
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to Memphis, man, So definitely shout
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out Mark Cuban and this team. Man, you guys
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are amazing. It was a cold call
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too, like I ain't talk to Mark in a minute. So yeah,
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Mark Cuban, man, you see why he's one of the best in
1:27
the game.
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Before we get to.
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Your Iphison classics that you're heading to this week, reminder
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to all you guys out there, we're on tour baby
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Detroit June thie, Chicago June
1:37
fourth.
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Pull up.
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You can go to all the Smoke Productions dot
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com slash tour for your tickets.
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Be there or keep being a square.
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Jack.
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You're off to Virginia for the
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Allen Iverson game. You maybe
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fourth or fifth year doing it. Your
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son is in it this year, which I think is amazing.
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Congratulations. I already know what that feeling is
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like. I'm looking forward to that feeling one day.
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Just talk to us a little bit about this game. Obviously you've
2:02
been a big advocate for it. Uh, you
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know, Chuck is our family seen
2:07
some young NBA stars who are
2:09
now stars in the playoffs come
2:11
through that game. So so, so tell me what
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you're looking forward to most about the game, and then let's
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go into some of the former guys that have
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blessed the game.
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I'm always excited about this week. Mac.
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You never I never thought that, you know, a guy
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like Alas, one of the best players ever, would let me be
2:26
the face of his game. Basically, you know what I'm
2:29
saying. So I basically run the game, but I basically
2:31
run the game on the ground with the players. But Shot,
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I got. I can't talk about the game without
2:36
Shot. Now, Bobby and Joe, the
2:38
founders of the game, the guys who run the game and all
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that.
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Because somebody give me not to cut you off, because somebody
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give me Bobby's voice real quick, even if it's someone in
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the back right now.
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I'll give it. I'll give it to you.
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Matt Well.
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This year the obviously the classic.
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We're gonna We're gonna have it right at Chuck School.
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Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be at Chick School this
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year.
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A Bethel.
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Yeah, I don't know if you've been down to Belt, but that's
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where it's gonna be this yield down at his hometown.
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He's gonna be crazy.
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It's gonna beautiful to be back in in.
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Norfolk, Virginia.
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All Chucks people gonna be there and
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uh, the greatest, the best experiences though to spending
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time with these kids. Mat so many pros as have it come
3:16
through this game. I've gained so
3:18
many relationships with so many kids. My
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son get to experience this, get to experience
3:23
it this year being around a lot of these kids before
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he make his decision on where he's going to school. So you
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know, I'm just grateful to Chuck and then bobbing
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them for allow me to be in his position and
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also just to be a part of the game.
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Man, shout out Chuck.
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I mean, it's it's it's it's he's coming
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back outside. As as the young people like
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to say, Man, he got a street named after him,
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got his statue on you know, the
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row in Philly.
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Uh, this game continues to grow.
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Man, I'm glad he's decided to come out
3:48
and play because the world needs him and definitely
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missed him.
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Uh.
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Moving on, Jack, they released the trailer
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that clipped uh the
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Donald Sterling.
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Uh.
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Since you when I was with the Clippers comes out on
4:01
FX, A show I got to consult on. I
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wouldn't even call it a EP because it definitely wasn't the EP,
4:06
but I got to consult. They hit me about some things, but
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I think they hollywooded it a
4:11
lot as well. But I'm definitely looking forward to it.
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Man.
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They got Ed O'Neil playing Donald Sterling, Lawrence
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Fishburne playing Doc. Lawrence's hairline
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was on point. My
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homeboy Sharoness playing me.
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He said, I was blessed to have him
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play me.
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My little homie, bro.
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Don't forget don't forget that, but
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not anyway. Man, really excited. They cast it
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well, So I'm
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definitely looking forward to seeing
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how that turns out. That release that comes out June fourth
4:41
on FX Breathe In, Breathe
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Out.
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Jack.
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For the first time in twenty years, the
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fans in the NBA will not have Steph
4:51
KD or King
4:53
James in the second round
4:55
of the playoffs. Lakers are finished. Darvin
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Ham our guy be out per
5:02
Shams. Obviously he's going
5:04
to be the fall guy.
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Jack.
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Let's talk about this Laker team. Man.
5:08
They got out rebuild a by nearly thirty rebounds
5:11
in this series. Rondo
5:13
mentioned on our show a while back,
5:15
you know, the recipe to being able to beat these
5:17
guys was, you know, kind of having that really big front
5:20
line that you could throw different looks at
5:22
Jokic. With
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all that said, and I'm gonna give you your
5:27
time to speak.
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The Lakers didn't play bad.
5:31
Two big offensive rebounds, two
5:33
shots at the buzzer by Jamal Murray. I
5:35
feel like if they would have played someone else, we would
5:38
see them in the second round. You can say what you want about
5:40
the coaches and the way this roster
5:43
is built, but they ran into fucking dinner
5:45
in the first round. And Denver looks
5:47
really good right now. So what are
5:49
your thoughts on this Laker team? Guys that did step
5:52
up didn't step up the future.
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Let's get into that.
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They had their expectations too high. That's
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just my thing.
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I didn't see this team being the team
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that was gonna make some noise in
6:03
the West end of the playoffs and possibly have a chance
6:05
to win the championship. This I knew this team was gonna
6:07
be the team that they were playing in the play in didn't
6:10
you.
6:10
Say they were your dark curse?
6:11
At one point, I swear you did, because
6:13
I said I wasn't mad at it.
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No, No, No, I know I probably did. But I didn't
6:17
say the team that was gonna win the championship.
6:19
I said the team that could make some noise. Yeah, I
6:21
definitely, you know what I'm saying.
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Ah yeah, But my.
6:24
Expectations for them being the championship team
6:26
wasn't high at all, you know what I'm saying. I saw the roster
6:28
they had, and I knew Bron was
6:30
gonna have to be Uhun Braun
6:33
that he was when he when he had the series
6:35
against Golden State, when he was having the trip forty
6:38
trip forty point triple doubles. Uh
6:40
and on the road at Golden State, he was gonna
6:42
have to be that Brun. I know that he didn't. I know that
6:44
Broun wasn't gonna come back in that arena, you know
6:46
what I'm saying. But Broun still was great, you know what
6:48
I'm saying. He still was putting up Hall of Fame numbers,
6:51
but he needed help. Ad played well, Bro,
6:53
but they just I think the expectations
6:56
of this team was just too high, even
6:58
with them playing as well as they did play they
7:01
still was in the play in they still got beat in the first
7:03
round, So that let you know that team was not good enough.
7:05
The station was too high.
7:06
I think one person they thought they were gonna
7:08
get more of than they got nothing out of a spencer
7:10
Dinwiddy, And I was a little disappointed to him because
7:13
he you know where he's been, He's always been able to get
7:15
you a bucket, and I think that's something they definitely
7:17
needed. But Jack, I want to take it a little further
7:19
back. And obviously because everyone likes
7:21
to twist shit and stretch shit. And
7:24
they got Russell Westbrook,
7:27
not Russell's fault, because the Lakers
7:29
did what they had to do to get them. They ended
7:32
up having to trade their core pieces,
7:34
guys that you need to win games,
7:36
like the other Shack likes to call them the others.
7:40
You lose KCP, who's
7:42
doing this thing for Denver, unfortunate. I think he just got hurt,
7:44
but you know he's already won another championship with Denver
7:46
core piece Kyle Kuzma, someone
7:48
who's on a bad team but did his role
7:51
for the Lakers and you know, can
7:53
get a bucket. And then they lost
7:55
Caruso too because they had to low ball them
7:57
due to the Russell Westbrook deal, and we already know what kind
7:59
of dog Caruso is probably First
8:02
team All Defense, someone that would have guarded Jamal
8:04
Murray in this series.
8:06
So, you know, I look at management,
8:08
you know, to be honest with you, with some of the decisions
8:11
they made, whether manage it means Lebron's
8:13
side of things, or managed
8:15
means Rob Polinka in his
8:17
crew, because again, this is a poorly constructed
8:20
situation.
8:22
You know, they got pieces.
8:23
They were able to strike go last year at
8:25
the trade deadline and add some few pieces and made a run
8:27
to the Western Conference and everyone thought, you know,
8:29
this next year they were going to make a jump. But this
8:32
is not that they got good pieces. But pieces
8:34
have to fit in jail, and I definitely don't feel
8:36
like the Lakers pieces jail. This
8:39
is the first time since twenty eighteen Bronc
8:42
and you know, will hit free agency. There's
8:45
talks that the Lakers want to draft his son, you
8:47
know, in the second round and possibly
8:51
keep them there. Darvin Ham
8:53
is probably going to be the going to be the fall
8:55
guy who was criticized this season about
8:57
you know, sub substitutions, Timeout
9:00
x's and no's. He was, Chris has about everything, but he already
9:02
know that Laker hot seat.
9:03
It's tough.
9:04
And then any team coaching Bron, the coach
9:06
is always gonna take some shit up.
9:07
Were just being honest.
9:08
So Jack BRONI
9:11
comes to the Lakers or or or does
9:13
Broun leave? I think carry champion if I'm not
9:15
mistaken. Put something out
9:17
that said right before the game is that she talked to
9:19
someone and someone that someone told her
9:22
that this is Lebron's last game in
9:24
purple and gold. So there's just a lot of shit out
9:26
of there. Breathe in, breathe
9:29
out. The Lakers' front office failed them,
9:31
and Darvin Ham is going to be the fall guy.
9:34
I saw something that with Broun. They asked Broun
9:36
was his last game in the Lakers' uniform. He said,
9:38
I'm not going to answer that. That's the answer right
9:40
there. That's the answer right there.
9:42
Bro.
9:43
I think he just he just controlling
9:45
the narrative and forcing whatever he wanted to play
9:47
the draft his son.
9:49
He said he wanted to play with his son.
9:50
He has nothing else to gain, all the
9:52
prove in the game of basketball no more. I
9:54
think anything that he does at this point or wherever
9:56
he goes, it's strictly off him wanting to be with his
9:59
son and got his son and be a mentor to
10:01
his son. I'll be able to say he played in the NBA
10:03
with his son, because we know he said that before. So
10:06
whatever bron do, we're gonna follow. We're gonna
10:08
support. If it's his last game in
10:10
the Lakers uniform, which I do think, because they're
10:12
not gonna get no better. I don't see nobody going over
10:15
there. I don't know what they what they're gonna do to make the marble
10:17
a sudden jump to the top of the Western Conference again
10:19
at the ages, so you know, just make them
10:21
move, Go play with your son and do what's best. But
10:23
he's gonna he's not gonna say nothing until
10:25
he knows that he's in a situation where he control
10:28
where a son can be with him.
10:29
Darvin Ham, he most likely is done.
10:31
I'm sure there's seing some things he would have changed in this
10:33
process of things. But you remember when
10:35
we talked to him, man that there's no hotter seat in professional
10:38
sports than the Lakers, and then on top
10:40
of that, having Brown on that team, I mean that's
10:42
every day you're the topic of discussion.
10:44
So you know, we wish him well and if
10:46
it was his last game, we hope he's able to land on
10:48
his feet.
10:49
You know.
10:49
Again, it's won the Lakers to Lebron,
10:52
so it's hard to kind of really judge a coach
10:55
under those circumstances.
10:57
Moving on, the former Laker coach Bring
11:00
Vogel and the Phoenix Suns were
11:02
swept out by ant Man and
11:04
Jack.
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Before we get into how amazing Minnesota
11:08
played and Cat played and Ant played
11:10
and their role players and Rudy played, shout
11:13
out ticket. KG saw this coming about
11:16
two months ago when we did certify
11:18
Smoke, and I think the whole panel gave him a little
11:20
shit. At the time, he compared them to eighty
11:22
four Jordan, and now you're seeing all
11:25
these side by side comparisons of
11:27
him and MJ. But
11:30
Anthony Edwards has taken it to another
11:32
level. Jack and for young players.
11:35
Like I said, I think I said it a couple of times.
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I just had to see it and I'm
11:39
seeing it and I believe it talked
11:43
to us.
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Well, we'll get to Phoenix and the disappointment
11:46
they had, but let's let's celebrate the team that won. First
11:48
talked to me about Anthony Edwards and this Minnesota
11:51
Timberwolves team.
11:52
Man, they played like a type like a top
11:54
team in the West, like they've been playing all year. Like
11:58
they say, Man, he just did different. Man, he got a
12:00
different type of passion. You know, like I
12:03
honestly haven't seen this type of player since Kobe,
12:06
you know what I.
12:06
Mean, And that that's just being
12:08
honestly truth.
12:09
You know, the passion on both ends of the ball, the
12:11
willing, the willingness to win, to
12:13
to the just the will to win and force your
12:15
team whatever it takes be a team to win, pushing
12:17
everybody, talking to your teammates on defense
12:20
and offense, challenging the best player on the other side.
12:22
Like that's what we want to see from a superstar.
12:25
So we we and we and I think it's
12:27
just everybody's talking about it, Matt, because
12:29
we're excited to finally see that, you
12:31
know what I mean, And you haven't with with
12:33
having great players like Carl Anthony Towns and
12:35
Rudy Gobell on his team. You know, they
12:38
even stepping back to letting him know like you are
12:40
you are him, you are next, Yeah, you
12:42
are him and they embracing it.
12:44
Man, I think that's why they having success.
12:46
Also, I mean with everything you said, average
12:48
is thirty one eight and six, was shooting
12:50
fifty from the field and forty
12:52
three percent from the
12:54
three point line. But I want,
12:57
I want to shout out management. This
12:59
is a really well built team. You got
13:01
nas Reed the sixth Man of Year. I like Javis McDaniels.
13:04
That motherfucker is a dog.
13:05
He tak.
13:08
Yeah uh, but yeahs Red.
13:10
He's one of my favorite players.
13:11
I was.
13:11
I was selling high on him.
13:13
If you want to go back and check the tape, I say he's going
13:15
to be one of the best free agents, and then you know he was. He
13:17
was able to resign with Minnesota win six Man the Year.
13:19
Javis McDaniels is a young six ' nine dog
13:22
on the defensive end who talked shit and got
13:24
some offense to him. Mike Conye sets
13:26
a sixteen years seventeen year vet that kind of
13:28
keeps everything in order while staying in his lane.
13:32
Put in the last one left yep.
13:34
Saying what you want about Rita Gobert, but he gets the
13:36
job done on that defensive end,
13:38
and he's giving you about ten to twelve points. So
13:41
you know this team was constructed well
13:43
uh, and you're seeing the result of obviously
13:45
a young emerging superstar and Anthony Edwards and
13:47
with this team is capable
13:49
of on the flip side,
13:52
Booker, Kevin Durant, Bradley
13:55
Beal, Jack, I always looked at
13:57
this team and I fucked with Book and I actually
13:59
fuck with three of them. But I always felt like
14:01
this team with one of them dudes in the gym that only
14:03
did upper body upper body strong
14:05
as a motherfucker, but didn't got know that, and they standing
14:08
on two sticks for legs like
14:10
they just didn't. Again, management didn't
14:12
build a roster. Shout out Grayson
14:14
Allen. He was kind of someone who was an other
14:16
that really stepped up this year. Got him some bread
14:19
shot the ball well but he got hurt. But Jack, we all
14:21
know this team too many similar
14:23
guys that do too many similar things. I think they
14:25
thought because last
14:28
year when Book, when CP would go down, Book
14:30
would have four or five games stretchers where he's
14:32
averaging nine assists the game and and and
14:35
okay, he's a facilitator and he has got better facilitating,
14:38
but let's keep it real. I was seep's job
14:40
getting everyone else involved with that
14:42
team. And they had you know, Booker who's a bucket
14:44
getter, one of the best in the game, kd who
14:47
was a you know, one of the greatest scores we've
14:49
ever seen. And then Bradley Beal, who's been coming off of injury
14:51
riddled last three or four years, wasn't
14:54
very It wasn't it was.
14:54
In and out of a lot, wasn't very consistent. But
14:57
when he's healthy, he's a bucket getter.
14:59
So no one to get them the balls, no one to do the
15:01
dirty work, you know, not a ton
15:03
of role players missed. Aiden Vogal
15:06
is probably gonna be the fall guy again. But talk
15:08
to me about the disappointment, uh with
15:11
this team.
15:11
I just don't think it'll it'll ever work when
15:14
you got three stars and none of them are defenders.
15:17
As you see, they just got swept by a team.
15:18
They got three stars, two of them are scores,
15:21
but all three of them are defenders. All
15:23
three of them are defenders, you know, So
15:26
it's and it showed in that series, you
15:28
know, none of you can't have three.
15:29
Scores three great players.
15:30
They are great players, and they are guys too, but
15:32
none of them are defensive players. None of them put that effort
15:35
on defense, none of the US defensive stoppers. So
15:38
you'll never win like that, man, especially against
15:40
a team like that where you're with other teams
15:42
best players might be one of their best defenders.
15:44
So they need they need to figure that out
15:46
and going forward, if
15:48
they don't get an athletic player
15:51
in the paint or or get a solid
15:53
point guard, they're gonna go through the same thing next year.
15:55
Well, bro, they're on the books for heavy, heavy,
15:58
heavy money bill and book or
16:00
around fifty or north of fifty kd's
16:03
north of forty nine million, so right there there
16:05
are already almost ten million over
16:07
the tax Kevin
16:10
Durant. So people
16:13
are saying this is a failed Big three. Again,
16:15
I didn't really.
16:16
Like this roster.
16:18
People say that the Brooklyn was a failed
16:20
Big three, But I just think that was more than injury and
16:23
all the other shit that was going on outside
16:25
the court, because I would have looked loved
16:27
to see this Kyrie that were seeing in Dallas right
16:29
now have that kind of energy
16:32
and availability with those
16:34
other two monsters.
16:35
But hey, Matt, I mean to cut you out, but you see
16:38
what they was doing in Milwaukee o Kye got hurt, it
16:40
was over. Then they still almost won the series of Katie
16:42
Foot wasn't on the line, So you
16:44
know what I'm saying, Like, the injuries definitely
16:46
played a part. I don't think it wasn't no bullshit there,
16:49
Yeah, a huge part.
16:49
I mean I think there was bullshit, but it was
16:52
more about the injuries than actual
16:55
team. But you know, this Phoenix team
16:57
just wasn't very good. It wasn't
16:59
built well, Jack,
17:02
what does KD do?
17:03
Does you know?
17:04
He went on the records.
17:05
Sham reported that he never felt comfortable on
17:08
his role with this team on the offensive end under
17:11
Vogel. He felt like too far, he too
17:13
often he was relegated to that corner
17:15
spot, that corner spot us up my love
17:18
something, Bruce Bowen, love something, Trevor Reza
17:20
love. But we're not motherfucking Kevin Durant.
17:22
Kevin Durant can't be in. You can't put baby in the
17:24
corner. What is that from dirty dancing? For our
17:26
us out there? Don't put baby in the corner.
17:29
But Kevin Durant, you know that speaks
17:32
volumes. Putting me in the corner means
17:34
you're kind of icing me.
17:35
Out.
17:35
Although Katie's numbers were great, KD
17:39
is gonna take heat right now because of his
17:41
moving around and his decisions, which
17:43
you know, we're all for player empowerment. Since he's left
17:45
Golden State, he's been thirteen
17:47
and eighteen in the playoffs. Some
17:49
would say two failed super teams. I think one.
17:54
And there's still hope for this Phoenix team if they can make
17:56
something happen. I don't think they can. The Brooklyn
17:58
shit, as we spoke to earlier, was just more injuries
18:00
and availability. Uh,
18:02
he's gonna be thirty six. He's on
18:04
the books for two years, one hundred million left
18:06
on his deal. Uh,
18:09
breathing breed out. Does Durant
18:11
finish out this contract
18:14
with the Sons?
18:15
You know what I say, Matt, I'm gonna go and
18:17
start some ship. Oh
18:19
boy, And he ain't got much time left,
18:23
man, go on, go back and finish the time on
18:25
Golden State.
18:26
Go back to Golden State back?
18:28
How would that? How would that work? It
18:30
can't get no worse.
18:32
No, I'm saying, how would it work from a standpoint of getting
18:34
them there? It's gonna have to be a trade. So maybe
18:37
some Wiggins siding
18:39
trade with Clay throw Wiggins in there.
18:42
You still can keep Clay Wiggas making
18:45
a hunt, and you can throw somebody else in there.
18:47
Throw loone in there, man Looney,
18:49
Clay and Wiggins for KD. Yeah,
18:51
I ain't mad at it.
18:52
I even think to keep it g I even think
18:55
Dramond I think they would be able to put the bullshit
18:57
aside because they both know, Hey, we need each other to get this
18:59
ship done with one more run. So you think
19:01
KD, Steph Dre and
19:03
then get you know, build some role players around them
19:05
and have one last run.
19:07
And keep cominga let cominga
19:09
come on in.
19:10
No whoever, whoever, I
19:12
forgot about Comina, whoever they
19:15
gonna want Cominica Comina because
19:17
I love motherfucker's nice, unreal
19:21
nice.
19:21
I like com I like.
19:24
Before we get out of here, Booker. I
19:26
don't know how reliable the source is.
19:28
Stephen A.
19:29
Smith ain't giving up no names, but Steven
19:31
A. Smith said this.
19:32
Birds chirping that Booker wants to head to New
19:36
York and that could be scary. Although
19:38
I really like the way de Vincenzo and Josh Hart
19:40
play and what they bring to the team.
19:42
Booking. Booking, Uh, what
19:44
would you be your thoughts on booking Brunson.
19:46
Man, you got a better chance believing that a dragonfly
19:48
fing to deliver you at peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
19:50
Nigga, I don't believe that ship?
19:53
What did?
19:54
What did? J Will say?
19:55
You got a better chance of pissing in a hot
19:57
sauce bottle?
20:00
Shout out to Jay Will, he.
20:02
Ain't gonna lie. I don't believe that shit. But hey, that
20:05
shit real nasty. That would be real
20:07
nasty.
20:08
Booker and Brunson, that'd be scary, scary
20:10
scary.
20:11
And Brunton's already showed although he's tooking a
20:13
huge step, he can play with someone.
20:16
He can play next to a superstar. He's played next to Luca
20:19
Jack.
20:19
Moving ahead, Man, Wolve's Nuggets'
20:22
nug What are we talking about here? Wolve's Nuggets.
20:25
I'm not mad at it either way. I mean,
20:27
the Nuggets are a fine oil machine. Who's
20:29
been there, but Minnesota's shown there
20:31
ready. It's gonna be obviously the ultimate test right here.
20:33
I feel like, whoever wins this will come
20:35
out of the West.
20:36
You got the experienced team and defending
20:38
champions against the young hungry dogs.
20:39
Man, So you know, me.
20:40
I'm always going with the underdog, man, I'm
20:42
going with the underdog every time.
20:44
And it's gonna be Minnesota.
20:46
Man, it's gonna take over the league and it's
20:48
gonna happen this.
20:49
Year in the playoffs.
20:50
Minnesota is what two in Denver
20:52
was three as far as seeding,
20:55
Yeah, so Minnesota is the higher seed what probably
20:57
will be the dog in this series.
20:59
So you're going with Minnesota.
21:01
Huh? I like that?
21:03
No disrespect to the Joker, man, I know I'm
21:05
mad. Hey, hey, Matt, let me say this
21:07
too. Every time I watch Jokers
21:10
play, he go up high on my
21:12
list by the game, not by
21:14
the year, not by the season.
21:15
He's going to high up on my best scent
21:17
of all time list by the game. Bro.
21:19
He's incredible.
21:20
Absolutely speaking of he's
21:23
moving up by the game. Where you got him at in your
21:25
top five, he is in my top five.
21:27
Let me hear your top five.
21:28
I got Shaq, I got a
21:31
kim Olajuan, I got Kareem,
21:33
then I got Joker.
21:36
Who who rounds out your five?
21:38
Wilt?
21:39
My man, that's all monsters
21:41
right there. We're seeing the changing of the guard. As
21:43
I mentioned, this is going to be the first time in twenty years
21:45
that Lebron, KD or Steph han't been in
21:48
the second round. It's
21:51
a new day, Luca
21:53
Joker, Janni's although he's hurt, he's in
21:55
the conversation.
21:57
And man is the front runner.
21:59
SG out there in Oklahoma City,
22:02
Jason Tatum quietly doing this thing out there
22:04
in Boston, and then the young boy Wimby
22:08
in San Antonio.
22:11
Out are on the way out are KD,
22:13
Lebron and Steph.
22:14
So you know, obviously these guys
22:16
each probably have a few more years left. Maybe
22:19
Steph may have the most years left. But
22:22
it's it's when I say that, it
22:24
kind of it chokes me up a little bit
22:27
because it was a hell of an era of
22:29
basketball and championships
22:31
and greatness that those three players particularly
22:34
brought us.
22:34
And it's not done.
22:35
It's not done, but we definitely have seen the
22:38
changing of the guard. Man, So
22:40
definitely want to shout those three legends out, Steph,
22:42
KD and Braun.
22:45
You know, we got a couple more years with the Man, but I hope
22:47
fans cherish the minutes
22:49
in the days and the games we have left with
22:51
them, man, because those are three of
22:53
the greatest to ever do it.
22:55
Jack.
22:55
With that said, for the next five
22:58
to ten years, who
23:00
are your three? And you can only get me three,
23:02
We're gonna be your three, guys. They're gonna be the face
23:04
of the league. You go first. I'm gonna
23:06
take ant Man first, I'm gonna take
23:09
Yokic second, and I'm gonna take
23:11
Luca third. And that's tough
23:13
because I'm leaving out s g A, I'm leaving
23:15
out Wimby, I'm leaving out Tatum.
23:17
That's crazy.
23:18
But I'm gonna I'm gonna go with those
23:20
three and I'm gonna put and
23:23
I'm saying that is the best. I think
23:25
Yokich is probably the best player in basketball right now
23:27
for really being honest with ourselves. But ant
23:29
Man is, to me, will be
23:31
the most the biggest face because he has
23:33
the personality, the energy, the antics,
23:36
a fun, charismatic young superstar.
23:39
Y'all could just game speaks for itself. And
23:41
then Luca is a motherfucker. So who are your
23:44
three? You got my three? Who's your three?
23:45
I'm going one A
23:47
ant Man like the.
23:49
One B one
23:54
B Luca
24:00
Man. I'm
24:02
going a man Luca
24:06
and Wimby.
24:09
Mm hmm, yeah,
24:12
no, I got I got not hold on, I'm
24:15
going to add Man Jokic,
24:19
No, Luca, Damn, I'm going
24:22
a man yok at Winby. I
24:24
hate to believe Luca Man and
24:27
s g a Man. I'm tripping, man,
24:29
I'm not even It's tough. Man is All
24:32
we can say is the league is in good hands.
24:34
You know, I've enlisted a handful
24:36
of players, but there's a lot of other players who
24:38
are definitely gonna be doing their thing in the next five to
24:40
ten years.
24:41
But man, it's an end of an era. Uh
24:45
Jack.
24:45
Of any of these three we've mentioned,
24:47
Katie Bron or Steph Bron
24:50
four rings, Steph four rings, Katie two rings?
24:53
What one do you think could possibly get
24:55
one more ring before they bounce?
24:57
I honestly don't feel Bron is gonna see
24:59
another one in LA. I don't think that's
25:01
gonna happen. I don think they'd be able to put the right team unless
25:04
Katie go to LA. But and I
25:07
don't know why. I see Katie and Steaph getting in other ones
25:09
if they partner up again, So I
25:12
would have to say Katie and Steph if
25:14
they partner.
25:15
Up, I would just say Steph from a standpoint,
25:17
and he has the most solid foundation, structure
25:21
management to make
25:23
things happen. Whether that's bringing Katie in
25:25
or someone else in, I
25:27
would give that because we've seen the Unfortunately,
25:30
the Lakers front office hasn't done a
25:32
very good job. And again, I don't know if that's Bron's
25:34
influence on bringing people in
25:37
or Rob Polinka's decisions.
25:39
And then we see what's going on in Phoenix
25:42
and the debacle over
25:44
there. Jack Stronger
25:48
era, the West in
25:50
the twenty tens or
25:53
the West now, well.
25:55
I mean you got to think me talking about the West.
25:57
Back then, you had Kobe and Tim Duncan.
26:00
Jammy Mellow, Nash Dirk, cp
26:04
T Mac.
26:05
Yeah, but Kovid and Tim, Kobe and Tim Duncan
26:08
was winning all the championship. It was coming
26:10
through the West. Now, I mean, you know, Gianni's
26:14
done one one. I think
26:17
I think the West still dominant. I don't
26:19
think it's as dominant as it was
26:21
back in the day, but it's still dominant.
26:23
I think it's I still think it's the most dominant conference.
26:25
Yeah, I definitely think it's the West still. The East
26:28
has a lot of talent.
26:29
You look at you know who who who's
26:31
eating during these runs and as you
26:33
said, between Shaq and Kobe or
26:36
Kobe and Tim duncan, no one ate
26:38
during those runs. It was San Antonio and the Lakers.
26:41
Steph had his run, Yeah, Joanna
26:43
Scott one. But it's
26:46
it's been the west side. In the West coast,
26:48
Ron won two and went two on the other side
26:50
too. Yeah, yeah, true, my
26:52
bad. I totally did forget about Bron But.
26:54
No three, excuse me, three on the other side on
26:57
the.
26:57
East he did two. In Miami.
27:00
He went three.
27:01
It is so four in the last twenty
27:03
years.
27:04
Yeah, the other sixteen or in the western
27:06
if I'm not mistaken, I mean someone can go back and try
27:08
to correct us.
27:09
But no, Toronto, Toronto,
27:12
Kawhi not going.
27:13
There's five there you go. See, I see that mushroom
27:15
brain is working right now.
27:16
Yeah, baby, I'm telling you, I gotta keep popping them
27:18
board.
27:18
That boy's cooking.
27:20
I was chadded when I was in school, Bro, I would have passed
27:22
the test. I would have to take it thirteen times.
27:24
I believe it. I believe it.
27:26
Jack moving on man, stephen A and
27:28
he's our guy. But steven A has been.
27:30
Out here wilding
27:32
of late. Would you even
27:34
call it that? It's starting off.
27:36
I'm not gonna use the word I.
27:37
Want to, but yeah, go ahead, Yeah, starting off with said,
27:40
blacks in America can relate to Trump
27:42
because of you know, the how
27:45
he's being harassed and arrested and all this kind
27:47
of shit.
27:47
Which is wild as
27:49
fuck.
27:50
And then he tried to go back and correct us and tell us
27:52
what he said but or what he didn't
27:54
say, but everyone heard what he did
27:56
say, and the ship was so outlandish.
28:00
The motherfucking Shitlock agreed with
28:02
them. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't stephen
28:04
A just have a disc track on Whitlock like three months
28:06
ago, Like he got this nigga agreeing
28:08
with him now defending them, agreeing them. He was looking
28:10
for a little rope and he
28:13
found it. He also
28:16
said, uh, called
28:18
the league office the other day, and this one A
28:20
gilly posted this and this one. This
28:22
one hurt my soul, man, Like he called
28:25
the league office to see if why Russell
28:27
Westbrook was suspended, And
28:29
I just don't sit right with me and somebo he's
28:32
a journalist, he needs information. That shit was
28:34
just weak to me. So
28:37
we're gonna get to Jayden Rose in the second, because
28:40
that's another friend of the program. But Jack Stephen,
28:42
a smith of late what's going on
28:45
with our guy man?
28:46
One the reason why
28:50
my main, my main problem with a lot of people, and especially
28:52
with Steve and they would he say stuff like this.
28:54
Matt, if you was on the.
28:56
Corner with ten brothers in your neighborhood,
28:58
you wouldn't have said that. You
29:01
wouldn't have had the boss to say black people
29:03
relate to Trump. You wouldn't have said that in front of your people,
29:05
in the room full of your people. You said that on
29:07
TV because you comfortable there, and that's
29:09
the narrative that they want you to pay.
29:11
I told you to say that.
29:13
Bro, I'm not the most intelligent person, but I told
29:15
you on First Team common sense, that's why
29:17
you say these things on TV. So that's
29:20
why people look at you at uh funny and don't give
29:22
you the respect. This everything that me and Matt
29:24
will say O here, we'll say in any barbershop,
29:26
on any car, in front of any setting, in front of anybody,
29:29
because that's how we truly feel. Nobody's
29:31
telling us a certain certain thing. So that was the
29:33
weakest thing. And on the second thing, Matt,
29:36
you don't work for the lead. What
29:39
what can What makes you think you got the power
29:41
to car get somebody, spend it, suspend
29:43
it. So you opening more doors to
29:45
thinking. Now, okay, the times you done went on
29:48
TV and spoke bad about me and other players,
29:50
you was, you called and put your vote in to get people
29:53
suspended, that's what you're saying, like
29:55
like that, that's crazy that you would you would
29:57
openly say that. And hold on, my little
29:59
brother, I love you to death, But you agreed with
30:01
that perk and.
30:02
You a player, you know better than
30:04
that.
30:05
Just so matter if you was playing and he got and
30:07
he called the league when you got into it
30:09
with somebody a Sergey back or somebody, and
30:11
they saying it, and he called him saying, well, I think perk needs to be
30:13
suspended.
30:13
Taking money out of your pocket and your family. That's
30:15
crazy.
30:16
That's but that's the weakest thing he could have ever said on TV,
30:19
Matt back to back days.
30:20
We don't know what he said or if he said that he
30:23
thought they should have been suspended. I didn't see that part,
30:25
but I agree. I think the Trump shit was
30:27
wild and outland just but if I'm my mistaken, he's
30:29
doing some stuff over at Fox and I don't
30:32
know if that was there, that was it was on ESPN
30:34
and where it was at, But that shit was
30:36
a weak. But the west Or Westbrook shit hurt my
30:38
heart for a read like it's stunned
30:42
because yeah, for just a lot of different
30:44
reasons, I just don't think that's something. You
30:47
know, it's in the playoffs
30:50
star players, someone like Russ
30:52
who's taking so much bullshit from
30:54
the media to begin with, he's
30:57
out there and playing his role on that team.
31:00
He does the that he went from superstar to
31:03
now he's out there being the whole
31:06
plucker, the dirty guy that
31:08
the ship that doesn't know we show up on the statue.
31:10
That's his roles now and he's adapted to that role.
31:13
So for him to kind of go over there and do that and
31:15
make that call, that shit just didn't said
31:18
well. And again, I mean, Stephen A is our brother and Jack I
31:20
think that this that's why this Eraror.
31:22
Is so dope.
31:23
I feel like in media because he used to just be able
31:25
to say that and let the ship ride and
31:28
no one can say nothing to him because no
31:30
one else had platforms.
31:31
And again, we got a lot of love for Steven A. Smith.
31:33
We don't fuck with Luck. But I got a lot of love for Steve when
31:35
they fucked with stephen Ay. But sometimes
31:39
he says some shit. It's just like, come on, bro,
31:41
you know better than.
31:43
I come from under the old life, and you know what I'm
31:45
saying, Like, it's people that I grew up with that came
31:47
that came out of jail, and I know that snitch and that I ain't
31:49
fucking with.
31:50
Is snitch? You snitching?
31:52
Bro?
31:53
Called the league totally Nah fuck that man.
31:55
You called the league and tried to get miss suspended.
31:57
That was the league decision? Like
32:00
that, Broy, you don't do no ship like that's the weakest
32:02
ship up. I'm sorry, Broy, I'm not fucking with
32:04
him no more. You can be your homeboy. I
32:06
can't fucking no ship like that.
32:08
Dog.
32:08
Russ is my partner, and you know I'm want of the people that's
32:10
been going to back for Russ. I didn't hang with Russ.
32:12
Me and Russell never went to eight. I went not to eat
32:14
or nothing like that. I'm speaking. I'm standing up for Russ
32:17
on some real nigga ship. That was the
32:19
weakest ship he could have ever done. What's call
32:21
the league and ask why somebody not suspended dog?
32:24
Fuck that, Jack.
32:25
I'm not even mad at your stance because
32:27
a lot of people feel the same way.
32:28
A lot of people edit my ship today.
32:32
You know, Dylan was already putting red lines on the
32:34
Actually, let this motherfucking ship roll,
32:37
Dylan, I see dealing in the back laughing shakers
32:39
said Dylan, let that ship roll. Goddamn, it's all
32:41
the smoke
32:43
back.
32:46
Hey, hey, hey, I think
32:48
we got we let it fly. Come on, man, this
32:51
is man.
32:53
Fuck that man, my
32:56
bad man. I had to let that out. Fuck that.
32:58
Our brother Jayden Rose something to say too. And
33:01
obviously Jay Rose is our big homie,
33:04
someone who was in the ESPN family for a
33:06
long time, fifteen plus years of a not mistaken.
33:09
But he had a post and
33:11
I don't know who it was too. There was no names on it. You
33:14
guys gout there to fill in the blanks.
33:16
Jack.
33:16
Read what he said.
33:18
Jack.
33:18
Since day one, I'm so grateful that I chose
33:20
to put on for my culture ride a die
33:23
versus being a media coon. It
33:25
doesn't pay as much always get historic
33:27
views, but living in and having
33:29
my hometown and my driver's license is undefeated.
33:32
Blessed.
33:33
I can remember well, my first
33:35
when I first met him, when I walked to ESPN.
33:37
The first words he told me Matt and I remember if
33:39
verb batim, do
33:42
the job, don't let the job do you.
33:44
Shout out to Jay Rose has always been one
33:46
of the real big homies. It's gonna straight shoot
33:48
you. He's worked for the company and done the company
33:50
thing, but he's always been a nigga like for real, always
33:53
look out for you. So I definitely got to say that about
33:56
him. We all
33:58
know who he's talking to. We're not just trying to talk to no, but
34:00
we could just tell. Again, this is why I feel like
34:02
media is in a good space right now, man, because
34:04
you don't have to live or die with any one
34:07
opinion, anyone person, anyone
34:09
network, anyone platform like
34:12
you could digest and see where you
34:14
get in fitting and again again I
34:17
Steven A. Smith, I think he's tripping right here,
34:19
but again I still got love for him, and I
34:21
respect your point of view before not but again, like I
34:23
said, it used to be his way or the highway,
34:25
and it's just not that way anymore. So I love
34:27
that there's other platforms and other
34:29
voices that are getting out here and doing their
34:31
thing, and man, that's
34:34
why media is beautiful.
34:35
Man.
34:35
Good luck to Jay Rose.
34:36
No mo hood happened, pick a side, No
34:39
mo hood happened. Fuck that them days
34:41
over.
34:42
Jack getting out of here the reason why everybody
34:45
is going crazy. Man, it's been a twenty crazy
34:48
twenty twenty four. The
34:50
music landscape has kind
34:53
of set the vibe and the energy.
34:55
Obviously, Cat Wings went on sha'
34:58
shit and kind of opened the door. We've
35:00
been dealing with the puff shit and then twenty twenty
35:02
four we've been dealing with the big three in the
35:05
rap game. And our brother
35:07
Kendrick just came back with something
35:10
this morning. Six minutes,
35:13
six minutes, Dougie fresh
35:16
man Drake. I got to give a lot of respect
35:18
to Drake because Drake has been battling
35:22
Raw's future metro. Kendrick,
35:26
like Drake, has been in probably tooking some shots
35:28
of motherfuckers we don't even know because they took shots
35:30
to him. So I gotta respect him standing.
35:33
He came back with the AI and Pock. He
35:35
came back with the AI with the pocking. Snoop and
35:39
Pox Foundation didn't like that shit. I'm sure him and
35:41
Snoop probably had a offline conversation,
35:44
Kendrick came back with some shit this morning. Jack,
35:46
where are we at? What's going on right
35:48
now? I love it as long as it stays. Let me say, before you have
35:50
your thing, just keep it on, Just
35:53
keep it entertainment. You could talk your shit, just keep
35:55
it entertainment. But go ahead, Jack, that.
35:57
Ain't for the game.
35:57
It's good for the game.
35:59
Jay out of the game. We all
36:01
want that. But you know how niggas are, if
36:03
you check this out. I'm just sitting here, you know, getting
36:07
ready to work today and Dylan, you know, we're talking
36:09
about working on the rundown.
36:10
He says it to my phone. Man. So I'm just I'm
36:12
sit I'm just sitting this smugg and chiller.
36:14
By the time I'm midway through the song, I'm
36:19
I'm going crazy, Like I
36:21
haven't really paid attention to this, to
36:24
this rap beaf stuff, because I
36:26
don't think none of these songs are really you
36:28
know, like, okay, maybe the Metro in
36:30
the Future that was a that was a battle
36:32
beat.
36:33
I can't listen to somebody talking about you singing
36:35
and slowly. So I just didn't see too many
36:38
songs sounded.
36:38
Like battle rap that I grew up on ice Cube
36:40
and listen to all that type of shit.
36:42
You know what I'm saying.
36:43
So this is the first
36:45
song that feels like it's beef and Kendrick
36:47
took it there. Now you
36:50
know, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't the biggest Kendrick fan,
36:52
but I am a big Kendrick.
36:54
Battle rap fan. And he he
36:56
he killed this shit.
36:56
Dylan has really made when he made my day,
36:59
mind, I wasn't just turned up to do the
37:01
show and just dealing somebody that this morning,
37:03
bro, he said a lot.
37:05
You got to listen to at least twenty times.
37:08
I haven't got the smoke on it yet because I got
37:10
the shit as I was dropping the Twins off and I was running
37:12
late getting back up to the house and getting
37:15
ready, so I got to hear it twice.
37:16
But I haven't even got to smoke on it.
37:18
But absolutely we can do that after the show.
37:20
Yeah, I'm going down Ventura like oh
37:22
oh oh,
37:26
Like I wish and hope and pray because
37:28
this is good for the sport of rap. I
37:30
feel like, you know, as we get older, we
37:33
don't really necessarily and so all due respect with that younger
37:35
generation, we don't really get down with this, But this is kind
37:37
of These are our guys. These are kind of the wave
37:40
we're on, that thirty thirty five and up
37:43
wave, And these dudes are all great
37:45
in their own way, and I hope that they can just keep this
37:47
for the sport of it and it doesn't
37:49
have to spill over, because again I think it's great
37:52
entertainment.
37:52
It's got us talking about music and we ain't done that.
37:54
In a while.
37:55
Let me give them some information and hopefully it'll
37:57
help well. It can stay in the studios
37:59
for all the guys, guys that's
38:01
hanging around, the actual guys that's rapping.
38:04
We don't need y'all input. Y'all
38:07
not rapping, y'all not saying none of the words.
38:09
We ain't got none to lose.
38:10
I got none to lose, So we don't need y'all to jump
38:12
in to try to be famous. Let the rappers raping,
38:14
y'all stay out the way and keep the peace.
38:16
It's always one flunky that want to prove himself,
38:19
and then nobody don't need you to prove nothing, Doug, Peace,
38:22
roll up some blunts to sit down some well, all.
38:27
Right, man, before we get out of here again. June
38:30
third, June fourth. Will
38:32
be in Detroit June third, Chicago June
38:34
fourth. Go get your tickets. All
38:36
the Smoke Productions dot Com slash
38:39
Tour can't wait to see.
38:40
You, and we got Looking Ahead.
38:42
We got our brother Rich Paul that drops this week.
38:46
That one.
38:46
Then we're off to Miami. You're
38:48
actually so you're off. You're on the move. So
38:51
you're going to Virginia tomorrow and they're from Jinny. You
38:53
go to Miami.
38:53
Yeah, I'm going for two weeks the Alans game,
38:56
then Miami will all the smoke, Dan le
38:58
Batar and Fight Towns.
38:59
Baby, we back bight Town. Tell
39:02
tell the fans about fight Town. What you go going on with Fight Town.
39:04
I'm glad that it's back Fight times. The boxing showed.
39:06
We started to showtime. We're bringing it back
39:08
here with all the smoke production. Shout out to b D, Shout
39:11
out to Rose. We're going down. We're going to talk to somebody,
39:15
Espinoza for sure. Roy Jones, We're gonna go
39:17
down to holler Roy Jones.
39:18
Been to be there, you know, just trying to catch them some of
39:20
these Miami boxes, man and get back in the game.
39:22
We're coming with all the smoke boxing too. We got
39:25
some good people under the hood, some great, some legends,
39:27
some Hall of famers that we're gonna all the smoke
39:29
fight. Also, m m A,
39:31
we're coming with some mm A ship and we got some.
39:34
We got some. We're blessed. It's blessed.
39:36
We're blessed. Man.
39:37
You guys can catch this on all
39:39
the Smoke Productions and the
39:42
DraftKings Network.
39:44
We'll see y'all next week.
39:45
Shout Out Down Down at Rozon. Three
39:48
days in the Wrong
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