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NBA's New Generation Taking Over, Kendrick Diss Track, Out-Of-Pocket Stephen A Smith | ATS UNPLUGGED

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0:00

Thoughts, I'm booking bruntson.

0:01

Man, you got a better chance believing that a dragonfly

0:03

fing to deliver you at peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

0:05

Nigga, I don't believe that shit. What

0:09

did j Will say? You got a better chance

0:12

of pissing in a hot sauce bottle.

0:15

Shout out to j Will, Welcome

0:27

back.

0:28

To unplug our weekly

0:30

look around and

0:32

Jack, there's some shit going on right now.

0:33

But man, first of all, how are you?

0:35

I'm good? My brother can't complain. How you

0:37

Man? I can't call him.

0:38

Man. Just got back from Memphis.

0:40

First lag at eybl team played really

0:42

well, Twins played really well. Man decided

0:44

I'm getting to coach from my homeboy Moose as well. So

0:47

I got a robby plane ride. Man,

0:49

that was crazy. So shout out Mark Cuban. Man.

0:51

So our flight got

0:53

delayed out of LA, missed the connect

0:55

and then wouldn't have got us in until

0:58

after the first game. We had a Friday

1:00

night game. I'm like, I can't miss my son's first Eybo

1:03

game. So I hit Mark Cuban as I

1:05

was sitting in the airport, and motherfucker hit me back in

1:07

less than thirty seconds, Jack, that's why he's

1:09

stay on the ship. He put me with some lady,

1:12

then connect me to another lady and

1:14

shit. An hour later, I'm on a PJ

1:16

to Memphis, man, So definitely shout

1:18

out Mark Cuban and this team. Man, you guys

1:20

are amazing. It was a cold call

1:23

too, like I ain't talk to Mark in a minute. So yeah,

1:25

Mark Cuban, man, you see why he's one of the best in

1:27

the game.

1:28

Before we get to.

1:29

Your Iphison classics that you're heading to this week, reminder

1:31

to all you guys out there, we're on tour baby

1:34

Detroit June thie, Chicago June

1:37

fourth.

1:37

Pull up.

1:38

You can go to all the Smoke Productions dot

1:41

com slash tour for your tickets.

1:43

Be there or keep being a square.

1:45

Jack.

1:45

You're off to Virginia for the

1:47

Allen Iverson game. You maybe

1:50

fourth or fifth year doing it. Your

1:52

son is in it this year, which I think is amazing.

1:54

Congratulations. I already know what that feeling is

1:56

like. I'm looking forward to that feeling one day.

2:00

Just talk to us a little bit about this game. Obviously you've

2:02

been a big advocate for it. Uh, you

2:04

know, Chuck is our family seen

2:07

some young NBA stars who are

2:09

now stars in the playoffs come

2:11

through that game. So so, so tell me what

2:14

you're looking forward to most about the game, and then let's

2:16

go into some of the former guys that have

2:18

blessed the game.

2:20

I'm always excited about this week. Mac.

2:22

You never I never thought that, you know, a guy

2:24

like Alas, one of the best players ever, would let me be

2:26

the face of his game. Basically, you know what I'm

2:29

saying. So I basically run the game, but I basically

2:31

run the game on the ground with the players. But Shot,

2:34

I got. I can't talk about the game without

2:36

Shot. Now, Bobby and Joe, the

2:38

founders of the game, the guys who run the game and all

2:40

that.

2:41

Because somebody give me not to cut you off, because somebody

2:43

give me Bobby's voice real quick, even if it's someone in

2:45

the back right now.

2:46

I'll give it. I'll give it to you.

2:49

Matt Well.

2:51

This year the obviously the classic.

2:54

We're gonna We're gonna have it right at Chuck School.

2:57

Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be at Chick School this

2:59

year.

2:59

A Bethel.

3:00

Yeah, I don't know if you've been down to Belt, but that's

3:02

where it's gonna be this yield down at his hometown.

3:05

He's gonna be crazy.

3:06

It's gonna beautiful to be back in in.

3:08

Norfolk, Virginia.

3:09

All Chucks people gonna be there and

3:12

uh, the greatest, the best experiences though to spending

3:14

time with these kids. Mat so many pros as have it come

3:16

through this game. I've gained so

3:18

many relationships with so many kids. My

3:20

son get to experience this, get to experience

3:23

it this year being around a lot of these kids before

3:25

he make his decision on where he's going to school. So you

3:27

know, I'm just grateful to Chuck and then bobbing

3:29

them for allow me to be in his position and

3:32

also just to be a part of the game.

3:33

Man, shout out Chuck.

3:34

I mean, it's it's it's it's he's coming

3:36

back outside. As as the young people like

3:38

to say, Man, he got a street named after him,

3:41

got his statue on you know, the

3:43

row in Philly.

3:44

Uh, this game continues to grow.

3:46

Man, I'm glad he's decided to come out

3:48

and play because the world needs him and definitely

3:51

missed him.

3:52

Uh.

3:52

Moving on, Jack, they released the trailer

3:54

that clipped uh the

3:57

Donald Sterling.

3:59

Uh.

3:59

Since you when I was with the Clippers comes out on

4:01

FX, A show I got to consult on. I

4:03

wouldn't even call it a EP because it definitely wasn't the EP,

4:06

but I got to consult. They hit me about some things, but

4:09

I think they hollywooded it a

4:11

lot as well. But I'm definitely looking forward to it.

4:13

Man.

4:13

They got Ed O'Neil playing Donald Sterling, Lawrence

4:16

Fishburne playing Doc. Lawrence's hairline

4:18

was on point. My

4:21

homeboy Sharoness playing me.

4:23

He said, I was blessed to have him

4:25

play me.

4:28

My little homie, bro.

4:29

Don't forget don't forget that, but

4:31

not anyway. Man, really excited. They cast it

4:33

well, So I'm

4:35

definitely looking forward to seeing

4:38

how that turns out. That release that comes out June fourth

4:41

on FX Breathe In, Breathe

4:43

Out.

4:43

Jack.

4:45

For the first time in twenty years, the

4:48

fans in the NBA will not have Steph

4:51

KD or King

4:53

James in the second round

4:55

of the playoffs. Lakers are finished. Darvin

4:58

Ham our guy be out per

5:02

Shams. Obviously he's going

5:04

to be the fall guy.

5:06

Jack.

5:06

Let's talk about this Laker team. Man.

5:08

They got out rebuild a by nearly thirty rebounds

5:11

in this series. Rondo

5:13

mentioned on our show a while back,

5:15

you know, the recipe to being able to beat these

5:17

guys was, you know, kind of having that really big front

5:20

line that you could throw different looks at

5:22

Jokic. With

5:25

all that said, and I'm gonna give you your

5:27

time to speak.

5:29

The Lakers didn't play bad.

5:31

Two big offensive rebounds, two

5:33

shots at the buzzer by Jamal Murray. I

5:35

feel like if they would have played someone else, we would

5:38

see them in the second round. You can say what you want about

5:40

the coaches and the way this roster

5:43

is built, but they ran into fucking dinner

5:45

in the first round. And Denver looks

5:47

really good right now. So what are

5:49

your thoughts on this Laker team? Guys that did step

5:52

up didn't step up the future.

5:54

Let's get into that.

5:56

They had their expectations too high. That's

5:58

just my thing.

5:59

I didn't see this team being the team

6:01

that was gonna make some noise in

6:03

the West end of the playoffs and possibly have a chance

6:05

to win the championship. This I knew this team was gonna

6:07

be the team that they were playing in the play in didn't

6:10

you.

6:10

Say they were your dark curse?

6:11

At one point, I swear you did, because

6:13

I said I wasn't mad at it.

6:15

No, No, No, I know I probably did. But I didn't

6:17

say the team that was gonna win the championship.

6:19

I said the team that could make some noise. Yeah, I

6:21

definitely, you know what I'm saying.

6:22

Ah yeah, But my.

6:24

Expectations for them being the championship team

6:26

wasn't high at all, you know what I'm saying. I saw the roster

6:28

they had, and I knew Bron was

6:30

gonna have to be Uhun Braun

6:33

that he was when he when he had the series

6:35

against Golden State, when he was having the trip forty

6:38

trip forty point triple doubles. Uh

6:40

and on the road at Golden State, he was gonna

6:42

have to be that Brun. I know that he didn't. I know that

6:44

Broun wasn't gonna come back in that arena, you know

6:46

what I'm saying. But Broun still was great, you know what

6:48

I'm saying. He still was putting up Hall of Fame numbers,

6:51

but he needed help. Ad played well, Bro,

6:53

but they just I think the expectations

6:56

of this team was just too high, even

6:58

with them playing as well as they did play they

7:01

still was in the play in they still got beat in the first

7:03

round, So that let you know that team was not good enough.

7:05

The station was too high.

7:06

I think one person they thought they were gonna

7:08

get more of than they got nothing out of a spencer

7:10

Dinwiddy, And I was a little disappointed to him because

7:13

he you know where he's been, He's always been able to get

7:15

you a bucket, and I think that's something they definitely

7:17

needed. But Jack, I want to take it a little further

7:19

back. And obviously because everyone likes

7:21

to twist shit and stretch shit. And

7:24

they got Russell Westbrook,

7:27

not Russell's fault, because the Lakers

7:29

did what they had to do to get them. They ended

7:32

up having to trade their core pieces,

7:34

guys that you need to win games,

7:36

like the other Shack likes to call them the others.

7:40

You lose KCP, who's

7:42

doing this thing for Denver, unfortunate. I think he just got hurt,

7:44

but you know he's already won another championship with Denver

7:46

core piece Kyle Kuzma, someone

7:48

who's on a bad team but did his role

7:51

for the Lakers and you know, can

7:53

get a bucket. And then they lost

7:55

Caruso too because they had to low ball them

7:57

due to the Russell Westbrook deal, and we already know what kind

7:59

of dog Caruso is probably First

8:02

team All Defense, someone that would have guarded Jamal

8:04

Murray in this series.

8:06

So, you know, I look at management,

8:08

you know, to be honest with you, with some of the decisions

8:11

they made, whether manage it means Lebron's

8:13

side of things, or managed

8:15

means Rob Polinka in his

8:17

crew, because again, this is a poorly constructed

8:20

situation.

8:22

You know, they got pieces.

8:23

They were able to strike go last year at

8:25

the trade deadline and add some few pieces and made a run

8:27

to the Western Conference and everyone thought, you know,

8:29

this next year they were going to make a jump. But this

8:32

is not that they got good pieces. But pieces

8:34

have to fit in jail, and I definitely don't feel

8:36

like the Lakers pieces jail. This

8:39

is the first time since twenty eighteen Bronc

8:42

and you know, will hit free agency. There's

8:45

talks that the Lakers want to draft his son, you

8:47

know, in the second round and possibly

8:51

keep them there. Darvin Ham

8:53

is probably going to be the going to be the fall

8:55

guy who was criticized this season about

8:57

you know, sub substitutions, Timeout

9:00

x's and no's. He was, Chris has about everything, but he already

9:02

know that Laker hot seat.

9:03

It's tough.

9:04

And then any team coaching Bron, the coach

9:06

is always gonna take some shit up.

9:07

Were just being honest.

9:08

So Jack BRONI

9:11

comes to the Lakers or or or does

9:13

Broun leave? I think carry champion if I'm not

9:15

mistaken. Put something out

9:17

that said right before the game is that she talked to

9:19

someone and someone that someone told her

9:22

that this is Lebron's last game in

9:24

purple and gold. So there's just a lot of shit out

9:26

of there. Breathe in, breathe

9:29

out. The Lakers' front office failed them,

9:31

and Darvin Ham is going to be the fall guy.

9:34

I saw something that with Broun. They asked Broun

9:36

was his last game in the Lakers' uniform. He said,

9:38

I'm not going to answer that. That's the answer right

9:40

there. That's the answer right there.

9:42

Bro.

9:43

I think he just he just controlling

9:45

the narrative and forcing whatever he wanted to play

9:47

the draft his son.

9:49

He said he wanted to play with his son.

9:50

He has nothing else to gain, all the

9:52

prove in the game of basketball no more. I

9:54

think anything that he does at this point or wherever

9:56

he goes, it's strictly off him wanting to be with his

9:59

son and got his son and be a mentor to

10:01

his son. I'll be able to say he played in the NBA

10:03

with his son, because we know he said that before. So

10:06

whatever bron do, we're gonna follow. We're gonna

10:08

support. If it's his last game in

10:10

the Lakers uniform, which I do think, because they're

10:12

not gonna get no better. I don't see nobody going over

10:15

there. I don't know what they what they're gonna do to make the marble

10:17

a sudden jump to the top of the Western Conference again

10:19

at the ages, so you know, just make them

10:21

move, Go play with your son and do what's best. But

10:23

he's gonna he's not gonna say nothing until

10:25

he knows that he's in a situation where he control

10:28

where a son can be with him.

10:29

Darvin Ham, he most likely is done.

10:31

I'm sure there's seing some things he would have changed in this

10:33

process of things. But you remember when

10:35

we talked to him, man that there's no hotter seat in professional

10:38

sports than the Lakers, and then on top

10:40

of that, having Brown on that team, I mean that's

10:42

every day you're the topic of discussion.

10:44

So you know, we wish him well and if

10:46

it was his last game, we hope he's able to land on

10:48

his feet.

10:49

You know.

10:49

Again, it's won the Lakers to Lebron,

10:52

so it's hard to kind of really judge a coach

10:55

under those circumstances.

10:57

Moving on, the former Laker coach Bring

11:00

Vogel and the Phoenix Suns were

11:02

swept out by ant Man and

11:04

Jack.

11:04

Before we get into how amazing Minnesota

11:08

played and Cat played and Ant played

11:10

and their role players and Rudy played, shout

11:13

out ticket. KG saw this coming about

11:16

two months ago when we did certify

11:18

Smoke, and I think the whole panel gave him a little

11:20

shit. At the time, he compared them to eighty

11:22

four Jordan, and now you're seeing all

11:25

these side by side comparisons of

11:27

him and MJ. But

11:30

Anthony Edwards has taken it to another

11:32

level. Jack and for young players.

11:35

Like I said, I think I said it a couple of times.

11:37

I just had to see it and I'm

11:39

seeing it and I believe it talked

11:43

to us.

11:44

Well, we'll get to Phoenix and the disappointment

11:46

they had, but let's let's celebrate the team that won. First

11:48

talked to me about Anthony Edwards and this Minnesota

11:51

Timberwolves team.

11:52

Man, they played like a type like a top

11:54

team in the West, like they've been playing all year. Like

11:58

they say, Man, he just did different. Man, he got a

12:00

different type of passion. You know, like I

12:03

honestly haven't seen this type of player since Kobe,

12:06

you know what I.

12:06

Mean, And that that's just being

12:08

honestly truth.

12:09

You know, the passion on both ends of the ball, the

12:11

willing, the willingness to win, to

12:13

to the just the will to win and force your

12:15

team whatever it takes be a team to win, pushing

12:17

everybody, talking to your teammates on defense

12:20

and offense, challenging the best player on the other side.

12:22

Like that's what we want to see from a superstar.

12:25

So we we and we and I think it's

12:27

just everybody's talking about it, Matt, because

12:29

we're excited to finally see that, you

12:31

know what I mean, And you haven't with with

12:33

having great players like Carl Anthony Towns and

12:35

Rudy Gobell on his team. You know, they

12:38

even stepping back to letting him know like you are

12:40

you are him, you are next, Yeah, you

12:42

are him and they embracing it.

12:44

Man, I think that's why they having success.

12:46

Also, I mean with everything you said, average

12:48

is thirty one eight and six, was shooting

12:50

fifty from the field and forty

12:52

three percent from the

12:54

three point line. But I want,

12:57

I want to shout out management. This

12:59

is a really well built team. You got

13:01

nas Reed the sixth Man of Year. I like Javis McDaniels.

13:04

That motherfucker is a dog.

13:05

He tak.

13:08

Yeah uh, but yeahs Red.

13:10

He's one of my favorite players.

13:11

I was.

13:11

I was selling high on him.

13:13

If you want to go back and check the tape, I say he's going

13:15

to be one of the best free agents, and then you know he was. He

13:17

was able to resign with Minnesota win six Man the Year.

13:19

Javis McDaniels is a young six ' nine dog

13:22

on the defensive end who talked shit and got

13:24

some offense to him. Mike Conye sets

13:26

a sixteen years seventeen year vet that kind of

13:28

keeps everything in order while staying in his lane.

13:32

Put in the last one left yep.

13:34

Saying what you want about Rita Gobert, but he gets the

13:36

job done on that defensive end,

13:38

and he's giving you about ten to twelve points. So

13:41

you know this team was constructed well

13:43

uh, and you're seeing the result of obviously

13:45

a young emerging superstar and Anthony Edwards and

13:47

with this team is capable

13:49

of on the flip side,

13:52

Booker, Kevin Durant, Bradley

13:55

Beal, Jack, I always looked at

13:57

this team and I fucked with Book and I actually

13:59

fuck with three of them. But I always felt like

14:01

this team with one of them dudes in the gym that only

14:03

did upper body upper body strong

14:05

as a motherfucker, but didn't got know that, and they standing

14:08

on two sticks for legs like

14:10

they just didn't. Again, management didn't

14:12

build a roster. Shout out Grayson

14:14

Allen. He was kind of someone who was an other

14:16

that really stepped up this year. Got him some bread

14:19

shot the ball well but he got hurt. But Jack, we all

14:21

know this team too many similar

14:23

guys that do too many similar things. I think they

14:25

thought because last

14:28

year when Book, when CP would go down, Book

14:30

would have four or five games stretchers where he's

14:32

averaging nine assists the game and and and

14:35

okay, he's a facilitator and he has got better facilitating,

14:38

but let's keep it real. I was seep's job

14:40

getting everyone else involved with that

14:42

team. And they had you know, Booker who's a bucket

14:44

getter, one of the best in the game, kd who

14:47

was a you know, one of the greatest scores we've

14:49

ever seen. And then Bradley Beal, who's been coming off of injury

14:51

riddled last three or four years, wasn't

14:54

very It wasn't it was.

14:54

In and out of a lot, wasn't very consistent. But

14:57

when he's healthy, he's a bucket getter.

14:59

So no one to get them the balls, no one to do the

15:01

dirty work, you know, not a ton

15:03

of role players missed. Aiden Vogal

15:06

is probably gonna be the fall guy again. But talk

15:08

to me about the disappointment, uh with

15:11

this team.

15:11

I just don't think it'll it'll ever work when

15:14

you got three stars and none of them are defenders.

15:17

As you see, they just got swept by a team.

15:18

They got three stars, two of them are scores,

15:21

but all three of them are defenders. All

15:23

three of them are defenders, you know, So

15:26

it's and it showed in that series, you

15:28

know, none of you can't have three.

15:29

Scores three great players.

15:30

They are great players, and they are guys too, but

15:32

none of them are defensive players. None of them put that effort

15:35

on defense, none of the US defensive stoppers. So

15:38

you'll never win like that, man, especially against

15:40

a team like that where you're with other teams

15:42

best players might be one of their best defenders.

15:44

So they need they need to figure that out

15:46

and going forward, if

15:48

they don't get an athletic player

15:51

in the paint or or get a solid

15:53

point guard, they're gonna go through the same thing next year.

15:55

Well, bro, they're on the books for heavy, heavy,

15:58

heavy money bill and book or

16:00

around fifty or north of fifty kd's

16:03

north of forty nine million, so right there there

16:05

are already almost ten million over

16:07

the tax Kevin

16:10

Durant. So people

16:13

are saying this is a failed Big three. Again,

16:15

I didn't really.

16:16

Like this roster.

16:18

People say that the Brooklyn was a failed

16:20

Big three, But I just think that was more than injury and

16:23

all the other shit that was going on outside

16:25

the court, because I would have looked loved

16:27

to see this Kyrie that were seeing in Dallas right

16:29

now have that kind of energy

16:32

and availability with those

16:34

other two monsters.

16:35

But hey, Matt, I mean to cut you out, but you see

16:38

what they was doing in Milwaukee o Kye got hurt, it

16:40

was over. Then they still almost won the series of Katie

16:42

Foot wasn't on the line, So you

16:44

know what I'm saying, Like, the injuries definitely

16:46

played a part. I don't think it wasn't no bullshit there,

16:49

Yeah, a huge part.

16:49

I mean I think there was bullshit, but it was

16:52

more about the injuries than actual

16:55

team. But you know, this Phoenix team

16:57

just wasn't very good. It wasn't

16:59

built well, Jack,

17:02

what does KD do?

17:03

Does you know?

17:04

He went on the records.

17:05

Sham reported that he never felt comfortable on

17:08

his role with this team on the offensive end under

17:11

Vogel. He felt like too far, he too

17:13

often he was relegated to that corner

17:15

spot, that corner spot us up my love

17:18

something, Bruce Bowen, love something, Trevor Reza

17:20

love. But we're not motherfucking Kevin Durant.

17:22

Kevin Durant can't be in. You can't put baby in the

17:24

corner. What is that from dirty dancing? For our

17:26

us out there? Don't put baby in the corner.

17:29

But Kevin Durant, you know that speaks

17:32

volumes. Putting me in the corner means

17:34

you're kind of icing me.

17:35

Out.

17:35

Although Katie's numbers were great, KD

17:39

is gonna take heat right now because of his

17:41

moving around and his decisions, which

17:43

you know, we're all for player empowerment. Since he's left

17:45

Golden State, he's been thirteen

17:47

and eighteen in the playoffs. Some

17:49

would say two failed super teams. I think one.

17:54

And there's still hope for this Phoenix team if they can make

17:56

something happen. I don't think they can. The Brooklyn

17:58

shit, as we spoke to earlier, was just more injuries

18:00

and availability. Uh,

18:02

he's gonna be thirty six. He's on

18:04

the books for two years, one hundred million left

18:06

on his deal. Uh,

18:09

breathing breed out. Does Durant

18:11

finish out this contract

18:14

with the Sons?

18:15

You know what I say, Matt, I'm gonna go and

18:17

start some ship. Oh

18:19

boy, And he ain't got much time left,

18:23

man, go on, go back and finish the time on

18:25

Golden State.

18:26

Go back to Golden State back?

18:28

How would that? How would that work? It

18:30

can't get no worse.

18:32

No, I'm saying, how would it work from a standpoint of getting

18:34

them there? It's gonna have to be a trade. So maybe

18:37

some Wiggins siding

18:39

trade with Clay throw Wiggins in there.

18:42

You still can keep Clay Wiggas making

18:45

a hunt, and you can throw somebody else in there.

18:47

Throw loone in there, man Looney,

18:49

Clay and Wiggins for KD. Yeah,

18:51

I ain't mad at it.

18:52

I even think to keep it g I even think

18:55

Dramond I think they would be able to put the bullshit

18:57

aside because they both know, Hey, we need each other to get this

18:59

ship done with one more run. So you think

19:01

KD, Steph Dre and

19:03

then get you know, build some role players around them

19:05

and have one last run.

19:07

And keep cominga let cominga

19:09

come on in.

19:10

No whoever, whoever, I

19:12

forgot about Comina, whoever they

19:15

gonna want Cominica Comina because

19:17

I love motherfucker's nice, unreal

19:21

nice.

19:21

I like com I like.

19:24

Before we get out of here, Booker. I

19:26

don't know how reliable the source is.

19:28

Stephen A.

19:29

Smith ain't giving up no names, but Steven

19:31

A. Smith said this.

19:32

Birds chirping that Booker wants to head to New

19:36

York and that could be scary. Although

19:38

I really like the way de Vincenzo and Josh Hart

19:40

play and what they bring to the team.

19:42

Booking. Booking, Uh, what

19:44

would you be your thoughts on booking Brunson.

19:46

Man, you got a better chance believing that a dragonfly

19:48

fing to deliver you at peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

19:50

Nigga, I don't believe that ship?

19:53

What did?

19:54

What did? J Will say?

19:55

You got a better chance of pissing in a hot

19:57

sauce bottle?

20:00

Shout out to Jay Will, he.

20:02

Ain't gonna lie. I don't believe that shit. But hey, that

20:05

shit real nasty. That would be real

20:07

nasty.

20:08

Booker and Brunson, that'd be scary, scary

20:10

scary.

20:11

And Brunton's already showed although he's tooking a

20:13

huge step, he can play with someone.

20:16

He can play next to a superstar. He's played next to Luca

20:19

Jack.

20:19

Moving ahead, Man, Wolve's Nuggets'

20:22

nug What are we talking about here? Wolve's Nuggets.

20:25

I'm not mad at it either way. I mean,

20:27

the Nuggets are a fine oil machine. Who's

20:29

been there, but Minnesota's shown there

20:31

ready. It's gonna be obviously the ultimate test right here.

20:33

I feel like, whoever wins this will come

20:35

out of the West.

20:36

You got the experienced team and defending

20:38

champions against the young hungry dogs.

20:39

Man, So you know, me.

20:40

I'm always going with the underdog, man, I'm

20:42

going with the underdog every time.

20:44

And it's gonna be Minnesota.

20:46

Man, it's gonna take over the league and it's

20:48

gonna happen this.

20:49

Year in the playoffs.

20:50

Minnesota is what two in Denver

20:52

was three as far as seeding,

20:55

Yeah, so Minnesota is the higher seed what probably

20:57

will be the dog in this series.

20:59

So you're going with Minnesota.

21:01

Huh? I like that?

21:03

No disrespect to the Joker, man, I know I'm

21:05

mad. Hey, hey, Matt, let me say this

21:07

too. Every time I watch Jokers

21:10

play, he go up high on my

21:12

list by the game, not by

21:14

the year, not by the season.

21:15

He's going to high up on my best scent

21:17

of all time list by the game. Bro.

21:19

He's incredible.

21:20

Absolutely speaking of he's

21:23

moving up by the game. Where you got him at in your

21:25

top five, he is in my top five.

21:27

Let me hear your top five.

21:28

I got Shaq, I got a

21:31

kim Olajuan, I got Kareem,

21:33

then I got Joker.

21:36

Who who rounds out your five?

21:38

Wilt?

21:39

My man, that's all monsters

21:41

right there. We're seeing the changing of the guard. As

21:43

I mentioned, this is going to be the first time in twenty years

21:45

that Lebron, KD or Steph han't been in

21:48

the second round. It's

21:51

a new day, Luca

21:53

Joker, Janni's although he's hurt, he's in

21:55

the conversation.

21:57

And man is the front runner.

21:59

SG out there in Oklahoma City,

22:02

Jason Tatum quietly doing this thing out there

22:04

in Boston, and then the young boy Wimby

22:08

in San Antonio.

22:11

Out are on the way out are KD,

22:13

Lebron and Steph.

22:14

So you know, obviously these guys

22:16

each probably have a few more years left. Maybe

22:19

Steph may have the most years left. But

22:22

it's it's when I say that, it

22:24

kind of it chokes me up a little bit

22:27

because it was a hell of an era of

22:29

basketball and championships

22:31

and greatness that those three players particularly

22:34

brought us.

22:34

And it's not done.

22:35

It's not done, but we definitely have seen the

22:38

changing of the guard. Man, So

22:40

definitely want to shout those three legends out, Steph,

22:42

KD and Braun.

22:45

You know, we got a couple more years with the Man, but I hope

22:47

fans cherish the minutes

22:49

in the days and the games we have left with

22:51

them, man, because those are three of

22:53

the greatest to ever do it.

22:55

Jack.

22:55

With that said, for the next five

22:58

to ten years, who

23:00

are your three? And you can only get me three,

23:02

We're gonna be your three, guys. They're gonna be the face

23:04

of the league. You go first. I'm gonna

23:06

take ant Man first, I'm gonna take

23:09

Yokic second, and I'm gonna take

23:11

Luca third. And that's tough

23:13

because I'm leaving out s g A, I'm leaving

23:15

out Wimby, I'm leaving out Tatum.

23:17

That's crazy.

23:18

But I'm gonna I'm gonna go with those

23:20

three and I'm gonna put and

23:23

I'm saying that is the best. I think

23:25

Yokich is probably the best player in basketball right now

23:27

for really being honest with ourselves. But ant

23:29

Man is, to me, will be

23:31

the most the biggest face because he has

23:33

the personality, the energy, the antics,

23:36

a fun, charismatic young superstar.

23:39

Y'all could just game speaks for itself. And

23:41

then Luca is a motherfucker. So who are your

23:44

three? You got my three? Who's your three?

23:45

I'm going one A

23:47

ant Man like the.

23:49

One B one

23:54

B Luca

24:00

Man. I'm

24:02

going a man Luca

24:06

and Wimby.

24:09

Mm hmm, yeah,

24:12

no, I got I got not hold on, I'm

24:15

going to add Man Jokic,

24:19

No, Luca, Damn, I'm going

24:22

a man yok at Winby. I

24:24

hate to believe Luca Man and

24:27

s g a Man. I'm tripping, man,

24:29

I'm not even It's tough. Man is All

24:32

we can say is the league is in good hands.

24:34

You know, I've enlisted a handful

24:36

of players, but there's a lot of other players who

24:38

are definitely gonna be doing their thing in the next five to

24:40

ten years.

24:41

But man, it's an end of an era. Uh

24:45

Jack.

24:45

Of any of these three we've mentioned,

24:47

Katie Bron or Steph Bron

24:50

four rings, Steph four rings, Katie two rings?

24:53

What one do you think could possibly get

24:55

one more ring before they bounce?

24:57

I honestly don't feel Bron is gonna see

24:59

another one in LA. I don't think that's

25:01

gonna happen. I don think they'd be able to put the right team unless

25:04

Katie go to LA. But and I

25:07

don't know why. I see Katie and Steaph getting in other ones

25:09

if they partner up again, So I

25:12

would have to say Katie and Steph if

25:14

they partner.

25:15

Up, I would just say Steph from a standpoint,

25:17

and he has the most solid foundation, structure

25:21

management to make

25:23

things happen. Whether that's bringing Katie in

25:25

or someone else in, I

25:27

would give that because we've seen the Unfortunately,

25:30

the Lakers front office hasn't done a

25:32

very good job. And again, I don't know if that's Bron's

25:34

influence on bringing people in

25:37

or Rob Polinka's decisions.

25:39

And then we see what's going on in Phoenix

25:42

and the debacle over

25:44

there. Jack Stronger

25:48

era, the West in

25:50

the twenty tens or

25:53

the West now, well.

25:55

I mean you got to think me talking about the West.

25:57

Back then, you had Kobe and Tim Duncan.

26:00

Jammy Mellow, Nash Dirk, cp

26:04

T Mac.

26:05

Yeah, but Kovid and Tim, Kobe and Tim Duncan

26:08

was winning all the championship. It was coming

26:10

through the West. Now, I mean, you know, Gianni's

26:14

done one one. I think

26:17

I think the West still dominant. I don't

26:19

think it's as dominant as it was

26:21

back in the day, but it's still dominant.

26:23

I think it's I still think it's the most dominant conference.

26:25

Yeah, I definitely think it's the West still. The East

26:28

has a lot of talent.

26:29

You look at you know who who who's

26:31

eating during these runs and as you

26:33

said, between Shaq and Kobe or

26:36

Kobe and Tim duncan, no one ate

26:38

during those runs. It was San Antonio and the Lakers.

26:41

Steph had his run, Yeah, Joanna

26:43

Scott one. But it's

26:46

it's been the west side. In the West coast,

26:48

Ron won two and went two on the other side

26:50

too. Yeah, yeah, true, my

26:52

bad. I totally did forget about Bron But.

26:54

No three, excuse me, three on the other side on

26:57

the.

26:57

East he did two. In Miami.

27:00

He went three.

27:01

It is so four in the last twenty

27:03

years.

27:04

Yeah, the other sixteen or in the western

27:06

if I'm not mistaken, I mean someone can go back and try

27:08

to correct us.

27:09

But no, Toronto, Toronto,

27:12

Kawhi not going.

27:13

There's five there you go. See, I see that mushroom

27:15

brain is working right now.

27:16

Yeah, baby, I'm telling you, I gotta keep popping them

27:18

board.

27:18

That boy's cooking.

27:20

I was chadded when I was in school, Bro, I would have passed

27:22

the test. I would have to take it thirteen times.

27:24

I believe it. I believe it.

27:26

Jack moving on man, stephen A and

27:28

he's our guy. But steven A has been.

27:30

Out here wilding

27:32

of late. Would you even

27:34

call it that? It's starting off.

27:36

I'm not gonna use the word I.

27:37

Want to, but yeah, go ahead, Yeah, starting off with said,

27:40

blacks in America can relate to Trump

27:42

because of you know, the how

27:45

he's being harassed and arrested and all this kind

27:47

of shit.

27:47

Which is wild as

27:49

fuck.

27:50

And then he tried to go back and correct us and tell us

27:52

what he said but or what he didn't

27:54

say, but everyone heard what he did

27:56

say, and the ship was so outlandish.

28:00

The motherfucking Shitlock agreed with

28:02

them. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't stephen

28:04

A just have a disc track on Whitlock like three months

28:06

ago, Like he got this nigga agreeing

28:08

with him now defending them, agreeing them. He was looking

28:10

for a little rope and he

28:13

found it. He also

28:16

said, uh, called

28:18

the league office the other day, and this one A

28:20

gilly posted this and this one. This

28:22

one hurt my soul, man, Like he called

28:25

the league office to see if why Russell

28:27

Westbrook was suspended, And

28:29

I just don't sit right with me and somebo he's

28:32

a journalist, he needs information. That shit was

28:34

just weak to me. So

28:37

we're gonna get to Jayden Rose in the second, because

28:40

that's another friend of the program. But Jack Stephen,

28:42

a smith of late what's going on

28:45

with our guy man?

28:46

One the reason why

28:50

my main, my main problem with a lot of people, and especially

28:52

with Steve and they would he say stuff like this.

28:54

Matt, if you was on the.

28:56

Corner with ten brothers in your neighborhood,

28:58

you wouldn't have said that. You

29:01

wouldn't have had the boss to say black people

29:03

relate to Trump. You wouldn't have said that in front of your people,

29:05

in the room full of your people. You said that on

29:07

TV because you comfortable there, and that's

29:09

the narrative that they want you to pay.

29:11

I told you to say that.

29:13

Bro, I'm not the most intelligent person, but I told

29:15

you on First Team common sense, that's why

29:17

you say these things on TV. So that's

29:20

why people look at you at uh funny and don't give

29:22

you the respect. This everything that me and Matt

29:24

will say O here, we'll say in any barbershop,

29:26

on any car, in front of any setting, in front of anybody,

29:29

because that's how we truly feel. Nobody's

29:31

telling us a certain certain thing. So that was the

29:33

weakest thing. And on the second thing, Matt,

29:36

you don't work for the lead. What

29:39

what can What makes you think you got the power

29:41

to car get somebody, spend it, suspend

29:43

it. So you opening more doors to

29:45

thinking. Now, okay, the times you done went on

29:48

TV and spoke bad about me and other players,

29:50

you was, you called and put your vote in to get people

29:53

suspended, that's what you're saying, like

29:55

like that, that's crazy that you would you would

29:57

openly say that. And hold on, my little

29:59

brother, I love you to death, But you agreed with

30:01

that perk and.

30:02

You a player, you know better than

30:04

that.

30:05

Just so matter if you was playing and he got and

30:07

he called the league when you got into it

30:09

with somebody a Sergey back or somebody, and

30:11

they saying it, and he called him saying, well, I think perk needs to be

30:13

suspended.

30:13

Taking money out of your pocket and your family. That's

30:15

crazy.

30:16

That's but that's the weakest thing he could have ever said on TV,

30:19

Matt back to back days.

30:20

We don't know what he said or if he said that he

30:23

thought they should have been suspended. I didn't see that part,

30:25

but I agree. I think the Trump shit was

30:27

wild and outland just but if I'm my mistaken, he's

30:29

doing some stuff over at Fox and I don't

30:32

know if that was there, that was it was on ESPN

30:34

and where it was at, But that shit was

30:36

a weak. But the west Or Westbrook shit hurt my

30:38

heart for a read like it's stunned

30:42

because yeah, for just a lot of different

30:44

reasons, I just don't think that's something. You

30:47

know, it's in the playoffs

30:50

star players, someone like Russ

30:52

who's taking so much bullshit from

30:54

the media to begin with, he's

30:57

out there and playing his role on that team.

31:00

He does the that he went from superstar to

31:03

now he's out there being the whole

31:06

plucker, the dirty guy that

31:08

the ship that doesn't know we show up on the statue.

31:10

That's his roles now and he's adapted to that role.

31:13

So for him to kind of go over there and do that and

31:15

make that call, that shit just didn't said

31:18

well. And again, I mean, Stephen A is our brother and Jack I

31:20

think that this that's why this Eraror.

31:22

Is so dope.

31:23

I feel like in media because he used to just be able

31:25

to say that and let the ship ride and

31:28

no one can say nothing to him because no

31:30

one else had platforms.

31:31

And again, we got a lot of love for Steven A. Smith.

31:33

We don't fuck with Luck. But I got a lot of love for Steve when

31:35

they fucked with stephen Ay. But sometimes

31:39

he says some shit. It's just like, come on, bro,

31:41

you know better than.

31:43

I come from under the old life, and you know what I'm

31:45

saying, Like, it's people that I grew up with that came

31:47

that came out of jail, and I know that snitch and that I ain't

31:49

fucking with.

31:50

Is snitch? You snitching?

31:52

Bro?

31:53

Called the league totally Nah fuck that man.

31:55

You called the league and tried to get miss suspended.

31:57

That was the league decision? Like

32:00

that, Broy, you don't do no ship like that's the weakest

32:02

ship up. I'm sorry, Broy, I'm not fucking with

32:04

him no more. You can be your homeboy. I

32:06

can't fucking no ship like that.

32:08

Dog.

32:08

Russ is my partner, and you know I'm want of the people that's

32:10

been going to back for Russ. I didn't hang with Russ.

32:12

Me and Russell never went to eight. I went not to eat

32:14

or nothing like that. I'm speaking. I'm standing up for Russ

32:17

on some real nigga ship. That was the

32:19

weakest ship he could have ever done. What's call

32:21

the league and ask why somebody not suspended dog?

32:24

Fuck that, Jack.

32:25

I'm not even mad at your stance because

32:27

a lot of people feel the same way.

32:28

A lot of people edit my ship today.

32:32

You know, Dylan was already putting red lines on the

32:34

Actually, let this motherfucking ship roll,

32:37

Dylan, I see dealing in the back laughing shakers

32:39

said Dylan, let that ship roll. Goddamn, it's all

32:41

the smoke

32:43

back.

32:46

Hey, hey, hey, I think

32:48

we got we let it fly. Come on, man, this

32:51

is man.

32:53

Fuck that man, my

32:56

bad man. I had to let that out. Fuck that.

32:58

Our brother Jayden Rose something to say too. And

33:01

obviously Jay Rose is our big homie,

33:04

someone who was in the ESPN family for a

33:06

long time, fifteen plus years of a not mistaken.

33:09

But he had a post and

33:11

I don't know who it was too. There was no names on it. You

33:14

guys gout there to fill in the blanks.

33:16

Jack.

33:16

Read what he said.

33:18

Jack.

33:18

Since day one, I'm so grateful that I chose

33:20

to put on for my culture ride a die

33:23

versus being a media coon. It

33:25

doesn't pay as much always get historic

33:27

views, but living in and having

33:29

my hometown and my driver's license is undefeated.

33:32

Blessed.

33:33

I can remember well, my first

33:35

when I first met him, when I walked to ESPN.

33:37

The first words he told me Matt and I remember if

33:39

verb batim, do

33:42

the job, don't let the job do you.

33:44

Shout out to Jay Rose has always been one

33:46

of the real big homies. It's gonna straight shoot

33:48

you. He's worked for the company and done the company

33:50

thing, but he's always been a nigga like for real, always

33:53

look out for you. So I definitely got to say that about

33:56

him. We all

33:58

know who he's talking to. We're not just trying to talk to no, but

34:00

we could just tell. Again, this is why I feel like

34:02

media is in a good space right now, man, because

34:04

you don't have to live or die with any one

34:07

opinion, anyone person, anyone

34:09

network, anyone platform like

34:12

you could digest and see where you

34:14

get in fitting and again again I

34:17

Steven A. Smith, I think he's tripping right here,

34:19

but again I still got love for him, and I

34:21

respect your point of view before not but again, like I

34:23

said, it used to be his way or the highway,

34:25

and it's just not that way anymore. So I love

34:27

that there's other platforms and other

34:29

voices that are getting out here and doing their

34:31

thing, and man, that's

34:34

why media is beautiful.

34:35

Man.

34:35

Good luck to Jay Rose.

34:36

No mo hood happened, pick a side, No

34:39

mo hood happened. Fuck that them days

34:41

over.

34:42

Jack getting out of here the reason why everybody

34:45

is going crazy. Man, it's been a twenty crazy

34:48

twenty twenty four. The

34:50

music landscape has kind

34:53

of set the vibe and the energy.

34:55

Obviously, Cat Wings went on sha'

34:58

shit and kind of opened the door. We've

35:00

been dealing with the puff shit and then twenty twenty

35:02

four we've been dealing with the big three in the

35:05

rap game. And our brother

35:07

Kendrick just came back with something

35:10

this morning. Six minutes,

35:13

six minutes, Dougie fresh

35:16

man Drake. I got to give a lot of respect

35:18

to Drake because Drake has been battling

35:22

Raw's future metro. Kendrick,

35:26

like Drake, has been in probably tooking some shots

35:28

of motherfuckers we don't even know because they took shots

35:30

to him. So I gotta respect him standing.

35:33

He came back with the AI and Pock. He

35:35

came back with the AI with the pocking. Snoop and

35:39

Pox Foundation didn't like that shit. I'm sure him and

35:41

Snoop probably had a offline conversation,

35:44

Kendrick came back with some shit this morning. Jack,

35:46

where are we at? What's going on right

35:48

now? I love it as long as it stays. Let me say, before you have

35:50

your thing, just keep it on, Just

35:53

keep it entertainment. You could talk your shit, just keep

35:55

it entertainment. But go ahead, Jack, that.

35:57

Ain't for the game.

35:57

It's good for the game.

35:59

Jay out of the game. We all

36:01

want that. But you know how niggas are, if

36:03

you check this out. I'm just sitting here, you know, getting

36:07

ready to work today and Dylan, you know, we're talking

36:09

about working on the rundown.

36:10

He says it to my phone. Man. So I'm just I'm

36:12

sit I'm just sitting this smugg and chiller.

36:14

By the time I'm midway through the song, I'm

36:19

I'm going crazy, Like I

36:21

haven't really paid attention to this, to

36:24

this rap beaf stuff, because I

36:26

don't think none of these songs are really you

36:28

know, like, okay, maybe the Metro in

36:30

the Future that was a that was a battle

36:32

beat.

36:33

I can't listen to somebody talking about you singing

36:35

and slowly. So I just didn't see too many

36:38

songs sounded.

36:38

Like battle rap that I grew up on ice Cube

36:40

and listen to all that type of shit.

36:42

You know what I'm saying.

36:43

So this is the first

36:45

song that feels like it's beef and Kendrick

36:47

took it there. Now you

36:50

know, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't the biggest Kendrick fan,

36:52

but I am a big Kendrick.

36:54

Battle rap fan. And he he

36:56

he killed this shit.

36:56

Dylan has really made when he made my day,

36:59

mind, I wasn't just turned up to do the

37:01

show and just dealing somebody that this morning,

37:03

bro, he said a lot.

37:05

You got to listen to at least twenty times.

37:08

I haven't got the smoke on it yet because I got

37:10

the shit as I was dropping the Twins off and I was running

37:12

late getting back up to the house and getting

37:15

ready, so I got to hear it twice.

37:16

But I haven't even got to smoke on it.

37:18

But absolutely we can do that after the show.

37:20

Yeah, I'm going down Ventura like oh

37:22

oh oh,

37:26

Like I wish and hope and pray because

37:28

this is good for the sport of rap. I

37:30

feel like, you know, as we get older, we

37:33

don't really necessarily and so all due respect with that younger

37:35

generation, we don't really get down with this, But this is kind

37:37

of These are our guys. These are kind of the wave

37:40

we're on, that thirty thirty five and up

37:43

wave, And these dudes are all great

37:45

in their own way, and I hope that they can just keep this

37:47

for the sport of it and it doesn't

37:49

have to spill over, because again I think it's great

37:52

entertainment.

37:52

It's got us talking about music and we ain't done that.

37:54

In a while.

37:55

Let me give them some information and hopefully it'll

37:57

help well. It can stay in the studios

37:59

for all the guys, guys that's

38:01

hanging around, the actual guys that's rapping.

38:04

We don't need y'all input. Y'all

38:07

not rapping, y'all not saying none of the words.

38:09

We ain't got none to lose.

38:10

I got none to lose, So we don't need y'all to jump

38:12

in to try to be famous. Let the rappers raping,

38:14

y'all stay out the way and keep the peace.

38:16

It's always one flunky that want to prove himself,

38:19

and then nobody don't need you to prove nothing, Doug, Peace,

38:22

roll up some blunts to sit down some well, all.

38:27

Right, man, before we get out of here again. June

38:30

third, June fourth. Will

38:32

be in Detroit June third, Chicago June

38:34

fourth. Go get your tickets. All

38:36

the Smoke Productions dot Com slash

38:39

Tour can't wait to see.

38:40

You, and we got Looking Ahead.

38:42

We got our brother Rich Paul that drops this week.

38:46

That one.

38:46

Then we're off to Miami. You're

38:48

actually so you're off. You're on the move. So

38:51

you're going to Virginia tomorrow and they're from Jinny. You

38:53

go to Miami.

38:53

Yeah, I'm going for two weeks the Alans game,

38:56

then Miami will all the smoke, Dan le

38:58

Batar and Fight Towns.

38:59

Baby, we back bight Town. Tell

39:02

tell the fans about fight Town. What you go going on with Fight Town.

39:04

I'm glad that it's back Fight times. The boxing showed.

39:06

We started to showtime. We're bringing it back

39:08

here with all the smoke production. Shout out to b D, Shout

39:11

out to Rose. We're going down. We're going to talk to somebody,

39:15

Espinoza for sure. Roy Jones, We're gonna go

39:17

down to holler Roy Jones.

39:18

Been to be there, you know, just trying to catch them some of

39:20

these Miami boxes, man and get back in the game.

39:22

We're coming with all the smoke boxing too. We got

39:25

some good people under the hood, some great, some legends,

39:27

some Hall of famers that we're gonna all the smoke

39:29

fight. Also, m m A,

39:31

we're coming with some mm A ship and we got some.

39:34

We got some. We're blessed. It's blessed.

39:36

We're blessed. Man.

39:37

You guys can catch this on all

39:39

the Smoke Productions and the

39:42

DraftKings Network.

39:44

We'll see y'all next week.

39:45

Shout Out Down Down at Rozon. Three

39:48

days in the Wrong

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