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Oh I like this, Jackie,

1:46

want to introce your ship. You want me to talk

1:48

about you? Doesn't feel better when you talk about

1:50

yourself? And when I talk about you, I

1:53

mean either way. You know I'm gonna talk about yourself if

1:55

somebody else don't get

1:59

give me a break, give a break. What's

2:01

burning, Jack? What's happening cooling?

2:03

My brother? How you out there on the west side? Man,

2:06

I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man stretch

2:09

second half of the season, Man, I'm excited about

2:11

this. Jack pushing p towards

2:13

the playoffs. Let's touch

2:15

on that Western Conference first. What's

2:18

team or teams do you think benefit

2:20

the most from CP three being

2:23

down for six to eight weeks. I gotta

2:26

go with the Warriors. They're getting healthy and I think this is

2:28

a chance to get the number one seed. You

2:30

know a lot of people talk about homecourt advantage is not

2:32

that important, but having the number one, see,

2:34

there's a lot. It means a lot, and having home court

2:36

all the way through the playoffs, especially in the Western Conference.

2:39

I think every team on the West Conference wants that. So

2:41

for them to be getting healthy and to be

2:43

able to gain some ground on Phoenix,

2:45

why CP is hurt? I think that's

2:47

big for the Warriors to go out and try to get a good

2:49

field going into the playoffs. I love this

2:51

Phoenix team, but they go as far as CP three

2:53

takes them. Obviously, big fan of

2:55

book and what they're building over there,

2:57

but CP is that leader,

3:00

in that voice, that calming sense,

3:03

um when when needed and

3:06

um, you know, guys are still putting up nice numbers,

3:08

but it's just you know, with CP, is is

3:10

so much to that team that obviously his numbers

3:12

are great, but that that that the day to day fan doesn't

3:14

see. But who do I feel benefits the

3:17

most? I just think teams that are injured, that

3:19

have important guys injured, Golden State being

3:21

one of them, um, Draymond Green and Wiseman

3:23

coming back. Um. And then Denver being

3:25

another team where Jokers had an incredible season

3:28

numbers surpassed what he had last year in his MVP

3:30

season. Um, but he's got Jamal

3:33

Murray and Michael Porter Jr. Coming back.

3:35

Crazy thing about it is Phoenix only needs to go five

3:37

d to be a sixty win team, which is which

3:39

is crazy. But also what worries

3:41

me about Phoenix is CP three has had had

3:43

hand hand problems and you know, he's broke

3:46

this thumb, this is his second time.

3:48

But he's had other hand problems too. He had something clipped

3:51

uh in l A with me and the Clippers.

3:53

So it'll be interesting to see, man, you know those hands

3:55

and and and how aggressive he is on defense

3:57

and the place he'd be making. Man, it'll be interesting to see

3:59

me and if if like I said, Phoenix has a good

4:01

shot to represent the Western Conference,

4:04

but without cp uh

4:06

they don't go anywhere. So well, what

4:09

about eight and two? What

4:11

about eight and two? He ain't got paid? Yeah,

4:14

this is still year. Still ain't got paid. Yeah,

4:17

this is his year, but you also got to think like he

4:19

more than anybody to me exactly

4:25

but now, but but I I don't say

4:27

that disrespectful to me Aiden and

4:29

and he's played with a lot of and he's got

4:31

a lot of big page I'm talking about CP. But Aiden

4:33

is the most skilled by far. I mean he's got

4:35

offense and defense, mid range,

4:38

he can do it all. But he just benefited

4:40

and looked like it was a whole different player when CP was

4:42

out there on the floor. Man. So definitely

4:44

going into a contract year for him. Uh,

4:47

he needs that voice CP out there. Eastern

4:50

Conference, James

4:52

Harden and Joel embed I

4:54

want to hear what you have to say first, um

4:57

about this, But there

5:00

to a scary are the only

5:02

being two games a scary two games

5:04

start? Yeah, definitely

5:06

scary two games start, um.

5:09

And it was the right two teams Minnesota

5:12

and Next to start off with, you

5:14

know, perfect two teams to get it to get a good

5:16

feeling. You know what it would it be in his first

5:18

two games? Definitely the nixt though,

5:20

I gotta reiterate that. But now

5:23

Matt all bullshit aside, They

5:26

look good, bro, they look good. Um,

5:29

I can't wait to see them against the top tier Eastern

5:31

Conference Western Conference team. But they

5:33

look good. We know what in be gonna do. Um

5:36

definitely, you see the leading and be how he's embraced

5:38

it hard into the team, allowed him

5:40

to come in and be the player he's always been. And

5:43

I think, you know, having Doc Rivers

5:45

and staff him selling that sideline is

5:47

making that transition easier for them. They're gonna

5:49

look. They're looking good, man, They're gonna

5:51

be there. Yeah. I mean, people can say what

5:53

they want about James when he's unhappy.

5:56

You know, some people say he handsled the situations

5:58

wrong, but we know when he's motivated,

6:01

he's one of the best players in the world. And

6:03

and bead is having been having an m VP season

6:06

James since coming over to averaging fourteen

6:09

assists in high and rebounds. So

6:11

when this dude wants to play, he's one of

6:13

the best to do it. Something that sparks

6:16

me with Philly is I've kind of doubted

6:18

them because Harris

6:21

is not a consistent third

6:23

option, but I think the youngster

6:26

Tyrese Maxie has jumped into that

6:29

third role. Third score, third

6:31

consistent score, but can also drop thirty for you

6:33

young active. You know, he handled

6:35

the ball most of the season. He's slidding over now and

6:37

and and transition well with playing

6:39

with James Harden. And one thing Embat has been

6:41

saying too is playing with hard and he's

6:43

never had so many open looks. You know. Obviously

6:46

embiad and and Simmons had some work, you

6:48

know, had some good runs, but James Harden is

6:50

clearly the best player and Beat has ever played with.

6:52

And he's just saying that is making his game so

6:55

much more open. You know, the James ability

6:57

to score and assist um

7:00

scary. But I think Tobias Harris,

7:03

I don't know, like we've been waiting on him. He got all

7:05

that money, We've been waiting for him to be you

7:07

know, they chose him over Jimmy Butler, Jack, you

7:10

know what I mean. And he hasn't really

7:12

lived up to it. But it's it's

7:14

not bad now if you have to have him as a fourth

7:16

option, you know, because he because he does

7:18

have the potential to be someone who could

7:20

really score. Thoughts on Kyrie

7:24

uh and and and the nets hopeful

7:28

uh that he'll be able to be cleared. They had

7:31

some new mandate that was just dropped.

7:33

But they said

7:35

he can go to games but can't play. Like

7:38

what kind of ship does that make? Like you're gonna let it do go

7:40

to a game but not play, but then you're letting players

7:43

from other cities come in to New

7:45

York and still play, but Kyrie can't

7:47

play. But let's speak to uh

7:49

Kyrie the way he's been playing big window

7:52

the other night against the Bucks,

7:55

and and the outlook for this team,

7:57

um coming into the stretch run. Well,

7:59

first, let me say, um, when you spoke

8:01

on Tobias, Max, it

8:03

can't be the third leading score, but who's gonna

8:06

guard the big three guards and power

8:08

forwards? Tobia's gonna to step his game,

8:10

but they're not gonna have this season that they need

8:12

to. Max is a great small guard, but who's

8:14

gonna guard Katie and the rest of these big guys? And b

8:16

can't do it all? Uh, they

8:20

got to what I'm calling not to cut you off? What's the young boys

8:22

table? He's he's uh, he's

8:24

he's nice on the defensive And I agree that Harris

8:27

is definitely gonna have to step on the up on the defensive

8:29

end. But yeah, I

8:31

mean we've you know, we've been waiting, Like I

8:33

think, if I'm not mistaken, he is still

8:35

the highest paid player on that team. Man, It's

8:37

just like damn, Like, what's happening. Yeah,

8:39

something got to change. But I'm but I'm happy

8:42

to see that's a great possibility

8:44

that Kylee will be back on the court at home and away games.

8:46

You've seen what he means to Brooklyn.

8:49

They went in Milwaukee and got a big win,

8:52

you know, with Katie and Sam is not

8:54

even on the court, you know what I'm saying. And

8:56

Milwaukee had all they players, they had their whole

8:58

team. I'm pushing of Brooklyn. I actually

9:01

can get a good view of what this

9:03

team gonna look like when it all comes together. And

9:06

if it works out with Kyrie is playing

9:08

all in all the games and everybody's healthy

9:10

back, you're gonna you're gonna see a real dangerous

9:12

team. And I I actually d m

9:15

and told Katie and Kyrie

9:17

that that I can see it all coming together.

9:19

No, it's gonna be scary because you gotta think. You

9:21

know, this is the first time k

9:23

D and Kyrie play with the past

9:26

first point guard, you know

9:28

what I mean. Kyrie has been a point and

9:30

made decisions, but all Ben wants to do is

9:32

get his teammates off paulse You

9:35

mean he wants to find his teammates and all their spots

9:37

and he's gonna lock down on d. So

9:40

it's just like I'm excited. I I

9:42

still feel I still like Philly got the best

9:44

player in the trade, but I feel like

9:46

Brooklyn won the trade because they

9:48

have so much depth. Now, you know, you get a start, you

9:50

know, you get Seth Curry who's been shooting

9:53

the ball well, and then I think, uh,

9:55

big fella is gonna play.

9:57

Drummond is gonna pay major dividends. Although it be

10:00

is Is, you know, had his

10:02

way with him. I just think his depth

10:04

and size is really gonna help this team. So Katie

10:07

is days away, if not a week. Uh,

10:09

Simmons is probably about ten days. Took

10:11

two weeks away. Um, But when all

10:13

these pieces come together, man, it's it's gonna

10:16

be a fun run, not only to watch them, but again to

10:18

continue to watch Philly run, Chicago

10:20

get healthy. Miami. Victor Olawadipo's

10:23

on his way back from Miami. I forgot he wasn't even out

10:25

there. Um this Eastern Conference,

10:27

you know the Bucks, it's gonna be a real fun

10:29

run down the stretch. On the radar

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10:53

who's kind of flown under the radar all season, but

10:55

it's playing been playing good basketball plus one

10:57

thousand, and the East

11:00

in conference leader or there one or two are

11:02

plus twelve Hunter, that's the Chicago

11:04

Bulls. So you feel I mean we've touched on this a little

11:07

bit. I mean, right there, those are I probably

11:09

say any I think Boston

11:11

in Chicago the two teams that I don't

11:13

have as much confidence in. UM,

11:15

but any of those top four teams, Jack can come out

11:17

of the East. How do you see the ash the East

11:19

shaking down? I think it's gonna come down

11:21

to it was definitely matters were seating, but I

11:24

would like to see Brooklyn and

11:26

Philly in the Eastern Conference finals. Were

11:28

Brooklyn taking the Eastern Conference championship.

11:31

That would be dope dope, dope

11:33

jack. A lot of big games coming up this week

11:36

in the Eastern Conference. I'll

11:38

run through them real quick and then you tell me who you're

11:40

most likely are excited

11:42

to see Heat at Bucks on Wednesday,

11:45

Heat at Nets on Thursday, with

11:47

Katie and and and Simmons close to

11:49

returning Grizz at

11:52

the Celtics Thursday.

11:54

Celtics are twelve or twelve and three

11:56

over their last fifteam, like I said a second ago, playing

11:58

good basketball Bucks at

12:01

Bulls Friday and Sixers

12:03

at Heat Saturday, and to close

12:05

it off, Nets and Celtics, Kyrie back

12:07

in Boston. Out of those games, any

12:10

of those games intrigue you, Yeah, I

12:12

mean definitely, Um, the Sixers

12:14

Heat, that's gonna be a good game. But the Nets

12:17

and Celtics on Sunday, you could

12:19

possibly have everybody on the court that that game.

12:21

So I'm looking forward to see Kyrie

12:23

back in Boston. But the possibility of having everybody

12:25

the old team back on the court against Boston would

12:28

have playing a hot Boston team would be a good a good

12:30

game to watch. Yeah, definitely, I'm just

12:32

looking forward to, like you said, everyone getting

12:34

back take

12:43

a look of an upcoming episode. This

12:45

week on All the Smoke, we sat down

12:47

with our brother Chandler Parsons enjoy.

12:50

So, heading into free agency, you were

12:52

looking to possibly stay in Dallas.

12:55

I'm guessing that's what you wanted to do obviously.

12:57

Yeah, and it didn't really work out that

12:59

way. You in going to Memphis

13:03

another nice deal. What was that experience

13:05

like? So that was I signed a three year deal in Dallas,

13:07

but I had a player option in the third year and

13:11

talking with Mark, talked with my agent, they said,

13:13

listen, you played. I played good that year. You

13:15

know, we went to the playoffs. They

13:18

said, you can get a big deal and

13:20

there's a lot of interest in you. So I'm like, all right, great, I'll

13:23

opt out of my player option and he

13:25

damn thing was like, basically, you're going to get a max contract.

13:27

And you know when he Dan says that, I'm

13:30

fine, I believe you. But Cuban wanted

13:32

me to opt into that third year because I had had just

13:34

had a knee surgery, I had my second one,

13:36

and I was still going into free agency, and

13:39

so I didn't pick up my third year because

13:42

Mark was like, look, just opt in and improve yourself

13:44

that you can play and and then

13:46

I'll sign I'll sign you to a five year max the next

13:48

year. And I'm like looking at it, I'm like

13:50

and it was like seventeen million, and I'm looking

13:53

at him like he's telling me to opt

13:55

in now for seven team. But Dann

13:57

Vegan, my agent, telling me I got guaranteed like ninety

13:59

five. Like I'm like, Mark, if

14:01

I was your son, Like, what would you what would you tell

14:03

him? Like? Would you tell me to do this and take this guaranteed

14:06

deal? And they knew I

14:08

had like they knew I had the knee surgeries, right,

14:11

And so that was crazy. And that's

14:13

another crazy story where I had to pitch meetings

14:15

and I remember it was Orlando and New York offered max

14:18

deal's but like two or three years. But

14:20

the two big four ones were Memphis Grizzlies

14:22

and the Portland Trailblazers. And

14:26

Paul Allen came, Dame came, Terry

14:28

Stotts came, their front office came, and we had a great

14:30

meeting in Portland. And to be

14:32

honest with you, I was all in on Portland. I was

14:34

like, we can cancel the Memphis,

14:37

Like I'm going to Portland like this is play with Dame

14:39

and c J like this,

14:41

this is great, and I was like yeah. So

14:43

I was like all right, like I'm in JB. Bickerstaff

14:46

and Fizz who are my family?

14:48

They were he had just got the head coaching job at Memphis.

14:52

I said, you know what, let's just take the meeting, like I I love

14:54

them, like let's see. And also they had gasol, they

14:56

had Conley, they zbo t A like

14:59

they had a squad too, So

15:01

I'll never forget. We're in this meeting, right and it's at Dan

15:03

Fagan's house and we're

15:05

in the Memphis meeting and I see like where

15:08

Stacks sitting. Fagin's getting like red

15:10

and like kind of getting weird. And

15:13

then like five minutes later he asked, He's like, hey, let's take a break,

15:15

and like you know, let's uh,

15:17

well, we'll meet back up in five He's like, CP,

15:20

come here. So I go to the I go to his room with him

15:22

and he's like, you're going to Memphis

15:25

and I'm like, what do you mean? Like he

15:28

goes, Portland's

15:30

is going to give you a physical and because of like Greg

15:32

Odin and Brandon Roy's injury history

15:35

you might not pass. So

15:37

I'm like, what do you mean, Bro, He's like, trust

15:39

me, Like you don't want to go down that, Like if you do

15:42

that and they read flag you, Bro, you're taking a minimum deal

15:44

and you're smoked at. So

15:47

I'm like, bro, like what Like

15:49

in my head, I'm I'm on Zillo looking at houses

15:51

in Portland, like I was going, like I

15:53

love them. I go back

15:55

in there, Bro and I Oscar Performance

15:58

Gold Oscar.

16:00

I go back in there listening. Guys, I've

16:04

never I've never been more sure of something in my

16:06

life. Grit and grind to

16:08

day I die. I'm like, I'm in, I'm gonna

16:10

get. I was like, we can

16:12

just stop it here. I'm signing. Literally,

16:15

I'm like Blake Griffin. I wouldn't let them leave until

16:17

I signed the deal. I was like, I am going.

16:20

So that was just another damn thing and crazy story

16:22

where I was like, man, I've never told that story and

16:25

so like that was nuts where I was like

16:28

this man did it again. This

16:30

week, check out the newest podcast

16:33

to the Showtime Basketball Family

16:35

Forgotten Seasons, as Jack takes

16:37

dealing back to two thousand three in

16:40

his Sano San Antonio Spurs

16:43

championship run, Jack, What sticks out to

16:45

you most about that run? Kind

16:47

of where you're at in your career and then how

16:49

big of a role you played on a great team? First

16:52

shout out to Dealing and forgotten seasons. Man, I'm

16:54

so glad he's a part of the family. Man. He's going

16:56

to do some great things, not only for

16:58

for people like us. I, Man, I got a good

17:00

eye for I got a good eye for talent. Bro. Not

17:03

to cut you off, but I got a good eye for talent. Bro. Yeah

17:05

you did, Bro. He's solid and uh,

17:08

he's gonna educate a lot of people that

17:10

don't have education on who But I

17:13

enjoyed it, Bro. I just think the experience

17:16

and and the education I had was

17:19

it was detrimental to my career, you know

17:21

what I mean. I mean I the stuff

17:23

I learned, the things I've been through, the how

17:25

I was forced to be a man and a professional

17:28

in a short time. Uh. That

17:30

that whole grinding and being around different

17:32

players and from different places,

17:34

and being around veterans, you know, that being illegal,

17:37

it was just a gumball

17:39

of everything you need as a young player going into

17:41

the league, you know, and that being a part of

17:43

a wink and winning the organization just did that

17:45

experience along was it was along

17:48

was a big reason why I had a fourteen year career.

17:51

Everything I learned that the real

17:53

quick um as Pop comes

17:55

up on passing our former coach

17:57

Don Nelson um for the all time

17:59

winning coach. I know you had kind of an

18:02

up and down relationship with Pop.

18:04

Can you speak to that real quick? Yeah,

18:06

he basically made my career and

18:09

ruined it at the same time. You

18:11

know, gave me an opportunity to gave me an opportunity

18:14

to start on the championship team where I can make a name

18:16

for myself and have a long career. And

18:18

when I still had time left when I went back to

18:20

him, when I've been back to Sanintown, you cut me right before

18:23

the playoffs, and you know how that looked

18:25

at the end of your career in any every team across the

18:27

league get cut right before the playoffs. So um,

18:29

but but the respect will always be there.

18:32

Things happen, Uh. I'm

18:34

thankful for the experience and to be able to say I'm

18:36

in Bait champion and I wouldn't have got that without him. So

18:39

he is a legend. He's one of the best coaches ever. He's

18:41

he's going to be the winning's coaches ever, and

18:43

uh, I can't wait to congratulate him. Make sure

18:46

you check out Forgotten Seasons this week wherever

18:48

you get your podcast man closing

18:50

out Jack, the Lakers gets

18:53

smacked by the Pelicans, broad

18:55

watched. I wanted to watch the Kanye I got

18:57

done coaching the Twins yesterday. I wanted to come home

18:59

watch the Kanye duck, but the Laker game was on

19:02

ESPN, so I watched it, and I really

19:04

watched the whole game because I just wanted to really

19:06

see I mean able to catch a whole game in a minute. That's

19:08

a bad team, Jack. Yeah,

19:11

it's just the body language, you know. Just they

19:13

don't nobody's like they're playing for

19:15

each other. I think one thing about us, even

19:18

when we was having games, when we wasn't going to state

19:20

we have games, we wasn't playing well, we still played

19:22

for each other. And they got us out of that phone.

19:25

The reason why they're still in the funk is they're not playing for

19:27

each other. They are playing for self. They're trying to

19:29

find somebody to point the thing and I'm doing my

19:31

job, but he not all all this

19:33

is going on. With the talent you have, you

19:36

can't blame it on a d being out. You still have

19:38

enough guys to go out there and win games. Man, I just

19:40

think, you know, it's just it's just all going

19:42

down here from the way they tried to point every us,

19:45

you know to even with us taking the accountability,

19:48

they still try to throw it on him, And I think

19:50

it's everybody is accountable for the way

19:53

this team has been playing all season. This

19:55

is just a loaded situation,

19:57

and you know, everything is always bigger than basketball

19:59

and LA But from Clutch

20:02

sports having beef with the Lakers about

20:04

not making moves, but from where we heard

20:06

Clutch Sports is who brought the moves

20:08

to l A. So it's just like

20:10

who knows is that hearsay or that actual fact.

20:13

Two, they want to make Frank

20:16

Vogel the scapegoat, And

20:18

I know you're not the biggest fan of him, but you

20:20

can't coach effort and

20:22

and and and will and energy

20:24

like that ship. You can't coach that's on individual

20:27

players. So yeah, this team is not playing

20:30

well, but

20:32

to blame it on him for that type

20:35

of ship, to me is is unfair.

20:37

But at the same time. It looks like Jack

20:39

and tell me if I'm wrong. He

20:41

doesn't have that team. I don't know if he ever really

20:43

had the team, but you can really tell now that he doesn't

20:46

have the respect in the locker room. The motherfuckers don't

20:48

care what he has to say. And I

20:50

could tell by just looking at them. I really

20:52

don't know where this team goes. You know, A D he had a terrible,

20:54

terrible, terrible ankle spring. They're saying he's

20:56

supposed to be back in four weeks. We'll have

20:58

to see about that. I think that is gonna be longer. Um,

21:02

but what's

21:05

that that the Vogo is not

21:07

the guy? You know? I mean, you

21:10

can look at this team right. You can look at this team

21:12

right, and Matt, you can. They could have put me,

21:14

you Rose and Gelani on that sideline

21:16

and and we could have We could have coached a D

21:18

and Braun to the championship. If they're healthy,

21:21

they're gonna get to the championship almost every year they're

21:23

healthy. So it ain't too much coaching you can do to those

21:25

two guys. They are already great, right, so

21:27

we could have got them to the championship. So that's why

21:29

That's why I've been saying he's he wasn't

21:31

the coach, and now you see it because

21:33

great coaches handle things, you

21:36

know, and and and and and in tough times, you

21:38

know what I'm saying. And you know pop Is is

21:41

doing something with San Antonio right now. Without

21:43

Tim duncan you have Lebron James still,

21:45

you have Russell Westbrook, You still

21:47

have three Hall of Famers on your team.

21:50

So so if you can't control

21:52

that and keep that together, where your season can stay

21:54

afloat, where as you see where your team is

21:56

still looking respectable with all

21:58

the injuries, and you're not coach that everybody

22:00

thought you was. And I've been saying that. I agree

22:03

on that part because like I said, you can't blame

22:05

him for effort, energy and and just

22:07

wanting to be out there. That

22:09

ship shouldn't be able to slide under your watch

22:12

like that. Many dudes on your team just

22:14

want to play that way, you

22:16

know what I mean. So that just shows like no one is

22:18

really over there and everyone

22:20

has different styles, you know, everyone has different styles

22:23

to motivate people. I remember one thing, you know, Magic

22:25

Johnson said, and then you know the way Phil Jackson

22:27

used to work. You know, you can't

22:29

talk to everyone the same, you can't treat everyone the

22:31

same, and everyone has different buttons. You have to press

22:34

as a leader and as a coach. One

22:36

more thing before we close out on this thing. Jack,

22:39

someone I don't know who it was. It was this weekend

22:41

or maybe on Friday, someone still said

22:43

that Lebron is a great player, but

22:46

he can't carry your team anymore. What

22:48

is your thoughts on that? I disagree. It's

22:51

it's it's so many, it's so many scrubs

22:54

in his league, and we're talking about Lebron James. Lebron

22:56

James is gonna be a guy that can carry

22:58

a team and do his part, you know,

23:01

until he's out the league. I'm not gonna say he's

23:03

gonna be the Lebron that can bring a team

23:05

down from being down three one.

23:08

I'm not saying he's that Lebron, but he's still

23:10

good enough to carry a team where he can lead him and

23:12

rebound, rebounds, points and assists

23:14

and get to a championship. I still think he's that

23:16

guy. It's just a supporting cast. There's so much

23:18

negativity going on, so many me, me, me, why

23:21

me? Well, you know, it's just too much finger pointing

23:23

over there. But Lebron still can do it.

23:25

I don't know who said that. Yeah,

23:27

so I don't know. This is

23:29

kind of so that was my thing. Like still,

23:32

I don't know who the fox said it. Lebron is definitely

23:35

still doing his job and and and getting his

23:37

numbers. But that's what I mean, Like

23:39

he's always until he's done, he's gonna be

23:41

able to do his his job. But

23:43

he was always able to do a lot of motherfucker's

23:46

jobs before. And like I said, get

23:48

teams through situations like this. And

23:50

I don't think it's a knock at Lebron

23:53

or or anything, but just age is

23:55

catching up and he's had to do probably

23:57

the one superstar has had to do a lot to

24:01

maybe the most heavy lifting throughout a career.

24:03

I know people are gonna go crazy over that, but he's just done a

24:05

lot of a lot for you know, teams. I

24:08

just don't know if he still has that in him. Again,

24:10

I think he's still a great player, a

24:12

top two or three players in

24:14

the league, but just his it takes

24:16

a lot and I just think he has a lot of miles

24:18

and for him to be able to he he's always been able

24:21

to cover up for the rest of the team's

24:24

funk ups or insufficiencies or inabilities.

24:26

And I just don't know it at thirty six,

24:29

when you're eighteen, that's

24:31

a lot of heavy lifting to do, and and

24:33

and and maybe the gand it with less

24:37

na, but not at the end. He couldn't even do. Remember

24:39

when when Cole was at the end, the Lakers

24:41

were dogshit, dogshit? Don't

24:46

he stayed on the ship? No, I'm just talking about at

24:48

this stage in his career. You know, thirty

24:51

six years old, year eighteen, that's

24:53

a lot to ask. I think of Lebron earlier,

24:55

he's been able to do his whole career. But maybe

24:58

I agree. I agree with that man

25:00

that knock on ship, that's just right.

25:03

That's what I was trying to say. It's not even a knock on it.

25:06

No, hell no, because he was so superhuman

25:08

before, we just expect him to carry any

25:10

team wherever. That ship is hard to do.

25:12

Man, for what motherfucking dude to carry a whole

25:14

team is a lot. And you know you're

25:17

eighteen and thirty six years

25:19

old, that that that may be a heavier ask. That's what

25:21

they thought bringing in a D would

25:23

take a lot of the heavy lifting off Bron, so you

25:25

can continue just to maximize him. But he's

25:28

been having to do a heavy lifting with a D. So

25:30

we'll see what happens to the labs. Man,

25:32

I'm I'm I'm being a word playoff. You're heavy

25:34

lifted. They thought a D was gonna

25:37

come and take some of the heavy lifting off Braun.

25:39

But what he should be is be with Braun to do

25:41

some heavy lifting in the off season. Oh,

25:44

word played. You said

25:46

he needed to get in the gym. Yes, you

25:48

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